Subject: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box

From: Linwood Rose <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:07:27 -0500

Every now and again those of us involved in the restoration of our vintage cars come upon new products that exceed expectations. That has just happened to me and I wanted to share some news about my finding. I have absolutely no financial interest. Those of us who have 60s era cars are used to the ubiquitous two fuse Lucas fuse box, and how limiting it is. A fellow named Marc Goldblatt, A mechanical engineer and owner of Classic Technologies, has developed a very compact Fusebox consisting of seven relays, 15 fuses and 34 wiring positions perfectly suited for our cars and at a very reasonable price.

Mark is actually working on the restoration of his own Big Healey right now. In addition to the fuse box Marc provides a fantastic wiring schematic and directions and he will also help with the development of a custom wiring harness. Alternatively, great directions are provided for adaptation of the box to an original harness already in place in the car.

I have just installed one of Marc's boxes in my current project, a 1964 Jaguar Mark 2 and I am a very happy and satisfied customer. I only wish that he had his fuse box on the market when I restored my Healey. Anyway, check out his site, I think you will like what you see. http://www.classic-technologies.com/

Lin
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Lin,
That is not exactly a fair comparison. The entire Healey wiring system was designed with the electrical loads in mind. And when kept in good condition has proven to work very well. It is not an easy task to modify the existing system to accommodate multiple relays, additional wiring, & additional fuses. And in my opinion it becomes more difficult to trouble shoot & not necessarily any more reliable.
Gary Hodson  

-----Original Message-----
From: Linwood Rose <[email-masked]>
To: josef-eckert <[email-masked]>
Cc: healeylist <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2015 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box

Do you have your oven, stove, refrigerator, lights, receptacles, air conditioning, air compressor, car lift and etc on two fuses?

Lin

> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:22 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
> 
> Why?? More connections, more trouble, more fuses even more trouble, additional relays excessive trouble.
> Keep it simple and your car works as it should.
> 
> Josef Eckert
> Germany
> Electronic Engineer, Master of Science
> 
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent;">Lin,</font></div>

<div>That is not exactly a fair comparison. The entire Healey wiring system&nbsp;was designed with the&nbsp;electrical loads in mind. And&nbsp;when kept in good condition has proven to work very well. It is not an easy task to modify the existing system to accommodate multiple relays, additional wiring, &amp; additional fuses. And in my opinion it&nbsp;becomes more difficult to trouble shoot &amp; not necessarily any more reliable.</div>

<div>Gary Hodson&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>

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<div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Linwood Rose &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: josef-eckert &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: healeylist &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2015 1:41 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box<br>
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Do you have your oven, stove, refrigerator, lights, receptacles, air conditioning, air compressor, car lift and etc on two fuses?<br>
<br>
Lin<br>
<br>
&gt; On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:22 PM, <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Why?? More connections, more trouble, more fuses even more trouble, additional relays excessive trouble.<br>
&gt; Keep it simple and your car works as it should.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Josef Eckert<br>
&gt; Germany<br>
&gt; Electronic Engineer, Master of Science<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -----Original-Nachricht-----<br>
&gt; Betreff: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box<br>
&gt; Datum: 2015-12-16T20:11:21+0100<br>
&gt; Von: "Linwood Rose" &amp;lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&amp;gt;<br>
&gt; An: "healeylist" &amp;lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&amp;gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Every now and again those of us involved in the restoration of our vintage cars come upon new products that exceed expectations. That has just happened to me and I wanted to share some news about my finding. I have absolutely no financial interest. Those of us who have 60s era cars are used to the ubiquitous two fuse Lucas fuse box, and how limiting it is. A fellow named Marc Goldblatt, A mechanical engineer and owner of Classic Technologies, has developed a very compact Fusebox consisting of seven relays, 15 fuses and 34 wiring positions perfectly suited for our cars and at a very reasonable price.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Mark is actually working on the restoration of his own Big Healey right now. In addition to the fuse box Marc provides a fantastic wiring schematic and directions and he will also help with the development of a custom wiring harness. Alternatively, great directions are provided for adaptation of the box to an original harness already in place in the car.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I have just installed one of Marc's boxes in my current project, a 1964 Jaguar Mark 2 and I am a very happy and satisfied customer. I only wish that he had his fuse box on the market when I restored my Healey. Anyway, check out his site, I think you will like what you see. <a href="http://www.classic-technologies.com/" target="_blank">http://www.classic-technologies.com/</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Lin<br>
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&gt; 1964 Jaguar MK2<br>
&gt; 1969 MB 280SL<br>
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I understand (but do not necessarily agree with) the reasons why some peopl=
e want to modify the wiring system. To each his own. However, to state that=
 "a few more fuses and some switch-saving      relays are always a good ide=
a if you really want to use the car" is going too far. I must disagree! I w=
ould say that a well maintained car (regardless of whether it is original o=
r modified) is always a good idea. I have seen a lot of poorly executed mod=
ifications that in my opinion made the car less reliable & harder to troubl=
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From: Oudesluys <[email-masked]>
To: healeys [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2015 2:22 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box

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Very neat. It is not necessary to make      it over-complicated, but a few =
more fuses and some switch-saving      relays are always a good idea if you=
 really want to use the car.
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That is not exactly a fair              comparison. The entire Healey wirin=
g system was designed              with the electrical loads in mind. And w=
hen kept in good              condition has proven to work very well. It is=
 not an easy              task to modify the existing system to accommodate=
 multiple              relays, additional wiring, & additional fuses. And i=
n              my opinion it becomes more difficult to trouble shoot       =
       & not necessarily any more reliable.
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-----Original Message-----
              From: Linwood Rose <[email-masked]>
              To: josef-eckert <[email-masked]>
              Cc: healeylist <[email-masked]>
              Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2015 1:41 pm
              Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box
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              Do you have your oven, stove, refrigerator, lights,          =
    receptacles, air conditioning, air compressor, car lift              an=
d etc on two fuses?
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              Lin
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              > On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:22 PM, [email-masked]      =
        wrote:
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              > Why?? More connections, more trouble, more fuses even      =
        more trouble, additional relays excessive trouble.
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              > Every now and again those of us involved in the            =
  restoration of our vintage cars come upon new products              that =
exceed expectations. That has just happened to me and              I wanted=
 to share some news about my finding. I have              absolutely no fin=
ancial interest. Those of us who have 60s              era cars are used to=
 the ubiquitous two fuse Lucas fuse              box, and how limiting it i=
s. A fellow named Marc              Goldblatt, A mechanical engineer and ow=
ner of Classic              Technologies, has developed a very compact Fuse=
box              consisting of seven relays, 15 fuses and 34 wiring        =
      positions perfectly suited for our cars and at a very              re=
asonable price.
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     own Big Healey right now. In addition to the fuse box Marc            =
  provides a fantastic wiring schematic and directions and              he =
will also help with the development of a custom wiring              harness=
. Alternatively, great directions are provided for              adaptation =
of the box to an original harness already in              place in the car.
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              > I have just installed one of Marc's boxes in my            =
  current project, a 1964 Jaguar Mark 2 and I am a very              happy =
and satisfied customer. I only wish that he had his              fuse box o=
n the market when I restored my Healey. Anyway,              check out his =
site, I think you will like what you see. http://www.classic-technologies.c=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style=3D"background-color:=
 transparent;">I understand (but do not necessarily agree with) the reasons=
 why some people want to modify the wiring system.&nbsp;To each his own. Ho=
wever, to state&nbsp;that&nbsp;"a few more fuses and some switch-saving    =
  relays are always a good idea if you really want to use the car" is going=
 too far. I must disagree! I would say that&nbsp;a well&nbsp;maintained&nbs=
p;car (regardless of whether it is original or modified) is always a good i=
dea. I have seen a lot of poorly executed modifications that in my opinion =
made the car less reliable &amp; harder to trouble shoot. </font></div>

<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style=3D"background-color:=
 transparent;">Gary Hodson&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

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<div style=3D"color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;"=
>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Oudesluys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: healeys <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a><br>
Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2015 2:22 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box<br>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Very neat. It is not necessary to make
      it over-complicated, but a few more fuses and some switch-saving
      relays are always a good idea if you really want to use the car.<br>

      Kees Oudesluijs<br>

      <br>

      <br>

      Op 17-12-2015 om 1:21 schreef Andrew Uprichard:<br>

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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I hope you don=E2=80=99t mind input from a
            Triumph guy, but I restored a car last year which had an
            electric overdrive, electronic (1,2,3) ignition, an electric
            fan and an electric fuel pump.&nbsp; On previous cars I would
            have daisy-chained them all into the one (non-horns) fuse in
            a TR3, but for this car I got a modern system (see pic) and
            it has worked out really well.</span></div>

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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Andrew Uprichard</span></div>

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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Healeys
            [<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:healeys-boun=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mailto:[email-masked]=
</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>

            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:09 PM<br>

            <b>To:</b> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>; <a class=
=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>

            <b>Cc:</b> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>

            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse
            Box</span></div>

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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>That is not exactly a fair
              comparison. The entire Healey wiring system&nbsp;was designed
              with the&nbsp;electrical loads in mind. And&nbsp;when kept in=
 good
              condition has proven to work very well. It is not an easy
              task to modify the existing system to accommodate multiple
              relays, additional wiring, &amp; additional fuses. And in
              my opinion it&nbsp;becomes more difficult to trouble shoot
              &amp; not necessarily any more reliable.</span></div>

        </div>

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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>-----Original Message-----<br>

              From: Linwood Rose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

              To: josef-eckert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.=
de" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

              Cc: healeylist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

              <br>

              Do you have your oven, stove, refrigerator, lights,
              receptacles, air conditioning, air compressor, car lift
              and etc on two fuses?<br>

              <br>

              Lin<br>

              <br>

              &gt; On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:22 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:josef-eck=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"></a><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated=
" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">josef-eckert@t=
-online.de</a>
              wrote:<br>

              &gt; <br>

              &gt; Why?? More connections, more trouble, more fuses even
              more trouble, additional relays excessive trouble.<br>

              &gt; <br>

              &gt; Josef Eckert<br>

              &gt; Germany<br>

              &gt; <br>

              &gt; <br>

              &gt; Von: "Linwood Rose" &amp;lt;<a href=3D"mailto:linwoodros=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&amp;gt;<br>

              &gt; An: "healeylist" &amp;lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&amp;gt;<br>

              &gt; <br>

              &gt; Every now and again those of us involved in the
              restoration of our vintage cars come upon new products
              that exceed expectations. That has just happened to me and
              I wanted to share some news about my finding. I have
              absolutely no financial interest. Those of us who have 60s
              era cars are used to the ubiquitous two fuse Lucas fuse
              box, and how limiting it is. A fellow named Marc
              Goldblatt, A mechanical engineer and owner of Classic
              Technologies, has developed a very compact Fusebox
              consisting of seven relays, 15 fuses and 34 wiring
              positions perfectly suited for our cars and at a very
              reasonable price.<br>

              &gt; <br>

              &gt; <br>

              &gt; Mark is actually working on the restoration of his
              own Big Healey right now. In addition to the fuse box Marc
              provides a fantastic wiring schematic and directions and
              he will also help with the development of a custom wiring
              harness. Alternatively, great directions are provided for
              adaptation of the box to an original harness already in
              place in the car.<br>

              &gt; <br>

              &gt; <br>

              &gt; I have just installed one of Marc's boxes in my
              current project, a 1964 Jaguar Mark 2 and I am a very
              happy and satisfied customer. I only wish that he had his
              fuse box on the market when I restored my Healey. Anyway,
              check out his site, I think you will like what you see. <a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.classic-technologies.com/" target=3D"_blank"></a><a class=
=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.classic-technologies.com/" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.classic-technologies.com/</a><br>

              &gt; <br>

              &gt; Lin<br>

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This is a fun subject. Carrying the house wiring analogy to the extreme, that would mean that every light, every outlet, every electrical devise should have its own fused electrical circuit. Furthermore. every circuit that is switched should have a separate relay so that the switch is powered from one circuit & it energizes a relay that in turn energizes the light, etc. Shouldn't the relay circuit also be fused? What if the short is in the relay circuit? 
Gary Hodson
 
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box

Josef,The process of using branch circuits with multiple fuses (or breakers inindustry) is called protective discrimination.If done properly, the lower rated fuse will rupture before the higher ratedone above it in the chain.

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<div>This is a fun subject. Carrying&nbsp;the house wiring analogy to the extreme, that would mean that every light, every outlet, every electrical devise should have its own fused electrical circuit. Furthermore. every circuit that is&nbsp;switched should have a separate relay so that the switch is powered from one circuit &amp; it energizes a relay that in turn energizes the light, etc.&nbsp;Shouldn't the relay circuit also be fused? What if the short is in the relay circuit? </div>

<div>Gary Hodson</div>

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Josef,
The process of using branch circuits with multiple fuses (or breakers in
industry) is called protective discrimination.
If done properly, the lower rated fuse will rupture before the higher rated
one above it in the chain.
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On my cars I install a MGB 4 fuse panel as a second panel inside the car. I=
t is Lucas period correct and uses the same fuses. I wire driving lights, r=
adios and lighter through that and avoid in-line fuses.

Jim Werner

-----Original Message-----
From: John Spaur <[email-masked]>
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2015 1:22 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box

Very nice but I doubt me healey will ever get one.
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John
San Jose
=E2=80=9962 BT7
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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Andrew U=
prichard
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:21 PM
To: Ahealey help <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box

=20
I hope you don=E2=80=99t mind input from a Triumph guy, but I restored a ca=
r last year which had an electric overdrive, electronic (1,2,3) ignition, a=
n electric fan and an electric fuel pump.  On previous cars I would have da=
isy-chained them all into the one (non-horns) fuse in a TR3, but for this c=
ar I got a modern system (see pic) and it has worked out really well.
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Just my 2 cents=E2=80=A6
=20
Andrew Uprichard
Still looking=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.

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y cars I install a MGB 4 fuse panel as a second panel inside the car. It is=
 Lucas period correct and uses the same fuses. I wire driving lights, radio=
s and lighter through that and avoid in-line fuses.<br>
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To: healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2015 1:22 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box<br>
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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">San Jose</span></div>

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Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">=E2=80=9962 BT7</span></div>

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ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0p=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Uprichard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahealey help &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heale=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Classic Technologies Fuse Box</span></div=
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Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I hope you don=E2=80=99t mind input=
 from a Triumph guy, but I restored a car last year which had an electric o=
verdrive, electronic (1,2,3) ignition, an electric fan and an electric fuel=
 pump.&nbsp; On previous cars I would have daisy-chained them all into the =
one (non-horns) fuse in a TR3, but for this car I got a modern system (see =
pic) and it has worked out really well.</span></div>

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Yes, I agree. But that is how I feel about adding all these silly components to a well maintained system. If the system is not in good condition then adding fuses & relays & extra circuits to protect against various forms of electrical failures is not a good approach. It would be better to spend the time & money on restoring/repairing the original system. I will admit that my primary objection is that about 80% of the "improved" wiring systems I have seen were poorly executed, used poor or no wire color coding and left many of the underlying problems uncorrected. 
Gary 

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Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2015 5:20 pm
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That's just being silly, of course. You do realize that's exactly why there are multiple breakers of varying amperages?

But the idea is carried out that way in homes. Low voltage control circuits are used more and more for a number of reasons--some having to do with fire safety and energy saving.

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<div>Gary&nbsp;</div>

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Hey  Gary, some of those sentiments are a bit radical!!!

I have been riding on Lucas power for 49plus years and Joseph usually got me
home. Biggest issue was not the components but the quality and age of the
wiring insulation. I still remember the big fat collection of exposed copper
wires exiting the cockpit through the firewall grommet. Back in 1967 I
replaced wires basically one at a time with modern insulated wires to match
the  colour code as best possible. The bullet end fittings and soldering
were the hard bit. I was alerted to this problem when the wipers, lights and
horn all worked at the same time.

Another memory of the robust nature of Joseph and his many parts was I left
the cover off the battery in the BN.4 and had the trunk well loaded.
Cresting a hill on the NO.1 national hwy it all went black in the middle of
the night when at speed. Thinking quick I knew that the safety device was
the ON/OFF switch in the trunk. I isolated the battery and saw the offending
metal rod direct shorting out the battery, simple ,grab it and remove the
problem. The burn marks took weeks to disappear but as soon as I turn the
ON/OFF switch back on all Joseph's parts worked as per normal.

The biggest mod the 'Works" cars had was two circuits, ie left and right
hand side to lighting as accident damage was the most likely cause of blown
fuses from shorting out

Joe

From:  Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of
<[email-masked]>
Date:  Friday, 18 December 2015 12:45 PM
To:  <[email-masked]>
Cc:  <[email-masked]>
Subject:  Re: [Healeys] Fwd:  New Classic Technologies Fuse Box

Yes, I agree. But that is how I feel about adding all these silly components
to a well maintained system. If the system is not in good condition then
adding fuses & relays & extra circuits to protect against various forms of
electrical failures is not a good approach. It would be better to spend the
time & money on restoring/repairing the original system. I will admit that
my primary objection is that about 80% of the "improved" wiring systems I
have seen were poorly executed, used poor or no wire color coding and left
many of the underlying problems uncorrected.
Gary 

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 I still remember the big fat collection of exposed copper wires exiting the=
 cockpit through the firewall grommet. Back in 1967 I replaced wires basical=
ly one at a time with modern insulated wires to match the &nbsp;colour code =
as best possible. The bullet end fittings and soldering were the hard bit. I=
 was alerted to this problem when the wipers, lights and horn all worked at =
the same time.</div><div><br></div><div>Another memory of the robust nature =
of Joseph and his many parts was I left the cover off the battery in the BN.=
4 and had the trunk well loaded. Cresting a hill on the NO.1 national hwy it=
 all went black in the middle of the night when at speed. Thinking quick I k=
new that the safety device was the ON/OFF switch in the trunk. I isolated th=
e battery and saw the offending metal rod direct shorting out the battery, s=
imple ,grab it and remove the problem. The burn marks took weeks to disappea=
r but as soon as I turn the ON/OFF switch back on all Joseph's parts worked =
as per normal.</div><div><br></div><div>The biggest mod the 'Works" cars had=
 was two circuits, ie left and right hand side to lighting as accident damag=
e was the most likely cause of blown fuses from shorting out</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Joe</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span id=3D"OLK_SRC_BODY_SECT=
ION"><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color=
:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM=
: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid;=
 BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style=3D"font-weight:bold"=
>From: </span> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">h=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:warth=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">=
Date: </span> Friday, 18 December 2015 12:45 PM<br><span style=3D"font-weight:=
bold">To: </span> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hea=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><span style=3D"font-wei=
ght:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Healeys] Fwd:  New Classic Technologies Fuse=
 Box<br></div><div><br></div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial"><div>=
Yes, I agree. But that is how I feel about adding all these silly components=
 to a well maintained&nbsp;system. If the system is not in good condition th=
en adding&nbsp;fuses &amp; relays &amp; extra circuits to protect against&nb=
sp;various forms of electrical failures is not a good approach. It would be =
better to spend the time &amp; money on restoring/repairing the original sys=
tem. I will admit that my primary objection is that about 80% of the "improv=
ed" wiring systems I have seen were poorly executed, used poor or no wire co=
lor coding and left&nbsp;many of the underlying problems uncorrected.&nbsp;<=
/div><div>Gary&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div></font></span></=
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