From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 03:47:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C3F2580B26 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 03:47:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1022580838 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 03:46:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([86.172.63.185]) by avasout08 with smtp id xlpQ1o0093zohdS01lpSta; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 10:49:26 +0100 a=AQORXVhOiz0Tyv5RAYG4YA==:117 a=AQORXVhOiz0Tyv5RAYG4YA==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=2ciaTQvf_9oA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=XcRQASS2op8mE95Y1e0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: "'Michael'" , "'Stephen Hutchings'" References: <2F25D892-549D-454A-B99D-2127FEE1D614@rogers.com> <54285631.a92b320a.12a9.ffffba16@mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 10:49:25 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac/bTA9vFEOXHxEjQtujOh/7G483XgCD0k8A Content-Language: en-gb Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] heater valve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you all for your tips re. the heater, its hoses etcetc. All very helpful, as ever. Am in N.Ireland right now so can't access the Healey which, in disgrace, is sulking in the workshop in England. But, I can confirm that the two heater hoses are indeed supposed to be the same size; I spoke to the supplier just now. He immediately confessed.......they had a batch of sub-sized hoses which got onto their shelves and a few of them did make it out to customers. (I'd only bought mine as a portable emergency spare but lucky that I didn't need it when I was half way up some French Alpine pass??) The bolt question....well, I used a spanner to remove the first one and got half way through removing the second before I ran out of time. So they are hexes.I don't have them here, but I think that they are slotted hexes. Certainly shown thus in my parts manual. Simon _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 07:49:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758E22580912 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 07:49:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BDA258087D for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 07:48:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.100.111] by nm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2014 13:51:19 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.162] by tm100.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2014 13:51:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2014 13:51:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 42838 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2014 13:51:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412171479; bh=ZGSd7H7jHZUmJaujUKvG4AfGbF7qklrzFe2sdnOaHPw=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n9phftwAGR2046MsyN5eeiODEdd42QJb5L0VKEv/5awZBKoicokvtpNgtbIK01sctKEI21zskURMaRh3najjbXfgyZ9E5VSMnsMTfHgG5xfEq+0wdVn+VVv3Oe+XYfQnB4CutvVAmpB3MoK6dzsHYSXDjsrVl7RAIOJrPZKmWHY= rXYud3gBjbnxd_GBb5Ab5ZcVbaB9GrzBe2TCeZ9ZOWluPdzuBLoK3XpfOZul N51iMUfLDjwyp.34W6JkucPa43ZWoVbf7UnK4F4BN3ND2IqGkfJsY.K2UCiN Zpn5mczan2GeY1j2K9Y24kzkybGZsQDU_dmrj._6S_jMiFUNzBF6esGycyUi 6DyBxcxYlja1qB5T81wuoRGSJ6AnqH5PWSZz5D8cX7EBs043OjA0Ds8THArY ix0mv7Rleccf6PMKsI5EKCAZWZFQqiPbuzth89HE4gP.gdo8NZ6g6PZcHDbx 4meiy8qrDNSX8Knkqfuz_nzZU7wP7VlGyO0sIM4bqYJwNGEBbIJmAgO9C_Vy .gTM6bj74WasvoY_5aYm.XcGOMdjsPiAclb_3ngCofa4eqCm5Ohfw2xHz.EM _F2fqJ4XDLMgyPX4FGqzmPDn80x48N5IAI3znyCtP.qUHnP71W1_bwzE1GJ5 R4FuEeDtBrGMnNNmsQn3QO7tGdGoncs5kqdQkBvEikv.HeyWIs7XPN.uHjg_ pGxmBzA-- Received: from [174.116.224.134] by web122302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 06:51:19 PDT SW50ZXJlc3RpbmcgdGhhdCBTaW1vbiBzYXlzIHRoZSBzY3Jld3Mgd2VyZSBoZXggaGVhZHMsIG9yIHNsb3R0ZWQgaGV4IGhlYWRzLiBJIGRvbid0IGtub3csIGJ1dCBtYXliZSBieSB0aGUgdGltZSB0aGUgQko4IHJvbGxlZCBhcm91bmQsIHRoZXkgd2VyZSB1c2luZyByb3VuZCBzbG90dGVkIGhlYWRzLgpJJ3ZlIGp1c3QgbG9va2VkIGF0IG15IGFyY2hpdmUgYmVmb3JlIGFuZCBhZnRlciBwaG90b3MsIGFuZCBtaW5lIHdlcmUgZGVmaW5pdGVseSByb3VuZCBzbG90dGVkIHNjcmV3cy4uLnVuZm9ydHVuYXRlbHkBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 06:51:19 -0700 From: Stephen Hutchings To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater valve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Interesting that Simon says the screws were hex heads, or slotted hex heads. I don't know, but maybe by the time the BJ8 rolled around, they were using round slotted heads. I've just looked at my archive before and after photos, and mine were definitely round slotted screws...unfortunately! Stephen BJ8 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 09:31:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB4A2584450 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 09:31:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from cmta17.telus.net (cmta17.telus.net [209.171.16.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC942580912 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 09:27:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from WINDOWST93OFP9 ([154.20.22.193]) by cmta17.telus.net with TELUS id xrWc1o00A49xT9E01rWcbt; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 09:30:37 -0600 a=C6ev1NsZz1ygohoQRENMaA==:17 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=QWbc5P4I_GMA:10 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=O4YyhtHBKUuqGd9EPKQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=1R_X5ziERWgA:10 a=zlTOw5pdhpEA:10 a=1gyRDZ51NhYA:10 a=OWio8bXncD66sF8BXikA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=c5AE6442h44A:10 a=UF909vspFEgA:10 a=jVMuymAgjj8A:10 a=C6ev1NsZz1ygohoQRENMaA==:117 From: "Roger Grace" To: "Healey List" Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 08:30:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Classic & Sports Cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The October issue has a cover and great feature article on AH bWhy this is still Britainbs finest sporting dynastyb ... rg _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 11:10:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8922584450 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:10:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.253]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A54258097C for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:10:05 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1412183587; bh=ixFBVSYWkKaKkKaiNZYYNu4HkPt23ZWGThmkh4kRMlE=; b=LwTDg/5A54cL+NmHo4UCAY7oL7CGlcLwh09SWJVPsiiyHZcgH7STrTPRGTlmBYcyjRgCy+gOdo+nGcE2EQiLz2yFlnLNRzgQjuWEDNvl2vQwayKruyCXbylZUjF2RsTCmMtTEaL+1IlsgAzX4X8F6J27UxuECURNBMADvJulPi4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=z12xzg9EtXQZYMO8YWUqwxX+maVuEZiEHBFg3aYCoNKOsqCQb5BN3AtgLsKJou89uyxJSn15SJdvIV8+JhWhW4JY2yIfZGvhcE1kwxNpZhnFR/GhlomrZ2DuOeiiXvUvnDJj+iFtkCJ2+4DoTUVUntiqHRG1yBfYq3wnBo4HtXQ=; Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2014 17:13:07 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.241] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2014 17:13:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2014 17:13:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412183587; bh=ixFBVSYWkKaKkKaiNZYYNu4HkPt23ZWGThmkh4kRMlE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pqRrpmO/5yIJhnPcUhGtnet+2QmXIqQgc6B76K+TpSMIlcuV2v/efYlC6mmLOuhHys7JmyRDXfRAKk4TT7Vno5ioibVPX2BZ3xiK8dF44xoMVpFkArC1v4SzcHHD65JL7tru9+I6zSq1j19NYmynGq98U8xZdsqKKygbR+K8t0w= nujMV7uRIWSCWDmfhEuz1qD1HpM2G1pwvU1A0NIL6ex27V.8Jc8tPk_CbBWh 5aAX2qxVZKTeBlxqDOV1U5r55ZnHcdGjLVg6mpNPx02De.Tdg9td189BeAsK reuNSii_dLJHxDNh9C17ROkfz7jQxBE0odov9Hfm7_gJF9DcB3c8xX3nq5fW S3Kl.lECm4rzlYsVHFpF7bOeD3qjgXMinghpio5y28b2vq1uKQ8.fMqCNFKg Yv4Tps8OIZ_BrH9CcfHAXl8uleFvgN35JLPu8dt_JdmuKUY732XIcl9cPFu4 x_690GYtTzEWQX8v84YpuyeD318BRHMfgdn6U5C0UszYWZeIecFKVrbAfXOC nre0FJfTo2O.snlqBl7VfzULAmbNPx9.7MPylg5KUlq_RnV7TrFOMXDRS_ld STM6vZu80kghJIE2I10JIwTWXZzVwCqVyTF8ZADxvxV5rCoRnlb05MHf0D9j J3oWj6pnUCf7K7HuKOSb_gQ4egmeNf8tVdNwwPJQ6MfqC_ZF2OXyNR66JT6z mHqlpyanE6T5kOK9YQqpGcZ_ETRJhswIjT3uwJjm1fJWdH3l6d1vtTOaCh8p p3xml68DqE4pzAqXwkuXtRU0yKbcSM1G2rm553vsf2o4Y2Qdz09zZJDuT6hK ywR7BGp.Sjhk- From: "David Nock BCS" To: "Stephen Hutchings" , References: <1412171479.60381.YahooMailNeo@web122302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 10:13:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater valve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net All the heater valves on the 6 cylinder cars used a slotted cheese head screw. David Nock British Car Specialists 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Hutchings Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:51 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater valve Interesting that Simon says the screws were hex heads, or slotted hex heads. I don't know, but maybe by the time the BJ8 rolled around, they were using round slotted heads. I've just looked at my archive before and after photos, and mine were definitely round slotted screws...unfortunately! Stephen BJ8 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 11:20:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849E82584DB4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:20:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB6C258097C for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:20:02 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1412184185; bh=7qQ0qEwSG6IF1C1Jr61O1eHwwE7j85yoES65YrGCfIM=; b=D7YDLtAFtYty/Ve0BKJjP0TkHHB+0NMnmn5IJE6aA13eT6tXFHqOHjoWFxFBNpIL9RZ8BLnpbj2RnQ+lBajwwRLQscR1kw7N/c+SD51jMoQpCX49xRg9t3c5cJIF2mWqWW22ihw7JKrYRQv5aBVTYjrBqVQqHT8LvLFRXNuX30g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=xq8y48arW+Z4QkaJXyKB16dYdQybCJCOcX3jN5XsyAXdEtXqC/vEqpLUZ9859go6w4f3JfhBS5qUe+R7bKY7gXoqJ3pJPZNFz/eFw8l0MEx3dnFfGjjHlZsVrKpie9qXXvc9oTO/ii8BxVOEhTyuYmI07+tD3w5BR/0EO4fgNTI=; Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2014 17:23:05 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.96] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2014 17:23:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2014 17:23:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412184185; bh=7qQ0qEwSG6IF1C1Jr61O1eHwwE7j85yoES65YrGCfIM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=O4YZmMK89Dcb1HFBjLeky2N9gvqu0tKQYInidjNtv+xG1MlTRWdrJBOokMl+jWj5/HCfIvFmeUQCY2OjhTW7j96I3Nwd4Sa3cnIV5akjLAjUkuFjz3ZwqHylO8OuzIm2DJTSFPtT+bc8xRjmoLjd35x+Jy+OgCTNspPN07k2TXc= tgY4BsPe70Ck1MvezAfc0F2YNHI.6DSKA8mZyYXd8FcVzMXxrASmUN7n6grU 8lCEyaHKDw2adZ0gRY9c0n8dnCHFSm3.9WE_sumhgAzrKexPEczHbGOiHjpa t7Df0rvmRMAncimF9sZNN0tc49ILpv7QMJC6ylpE0afM9C9rItIDvPFnsPqP dD4AAKFUDgWbtaxpHG40sfsjMR1Xl2mVutE9IT8aVSdV.UUuYYzZU2fMZ_Zh n9zMRD1MVumX7syr0mwjy.QfVR9_8nomL1v60rVySGBwEIRTH8VXLyVN4ikv m88F4P6R1JQXI0naUgVpQgaUX8oxQHaoMXhgCIn3C8SE6d61GfvzNuPDbnTn afasB019wgZHVL2SGYEaV_RjTiikWf40TzJSX8G.1Q9heptPoLZsPL9sFu5X CWz1mnqQ_dLSOV19PTsXLmKiK9se5SeAFe9POdOsO7Etup1TzKHyCCP1CvVe UHY1A7ybSbw0WTwtjwk37EDNcLlaCVLzUcyAi6_c7ChfLu116wukbxA4h.Q- - From: "John Spaur" To: References: <1412171479.60381.YahooMailNeo@web122302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 10:23:07 -0700 Thread-Index: AQJISORFPR3owCDa3MdwXhWlO3xOiQFSS88xmyAUUxA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater valve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The hex head screws are most likely new replacements. John Spaur '62 BT7 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 11:55:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC712584DB5 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:55:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout06.plus.net (avasout06.plus.net [212.159.14.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF742580457 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:55:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([86.170.40.190]) by avasout06 with smtp id xtyY1o00646A4U601tyZfN; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 18:58:34 +0100 a=KUFOdUGTIqGL6hDMoZS1lQ==:117 a=KUFOdUGTIqGL6hDMoZS1lQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=2ciaTQvf_9oA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=hlBJrJpiB8oRWQe6fO8A:9 a=A3NW3RCfTKBZE5CK:21 a=lEg0Un-WiMNtoCSc:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=GRuFdhU3rW4A:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: "'John Spaur'" , References: <1412171479.60381.YahooMailNeo@web122302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <002701cfdd9c$5f49ea30$1dddbe90$@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:58:33 +0100 Thread-Index: AQJISORFPR3owCDa3MdwXhWlO3xOiQFSS88xmyAUUxCAAAnHAA== Content-Language: en-gb Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater valve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe, but look at the parts manual. I reckon they're slotted hexes in the picture. Damn difficult to get at anyhow! Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Spaur Sent: 01 October 2014 18:23 To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater valve The hex head screws are most likely new replacements. John Spaur '62 BT7 $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 12:16:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD15C2584E60 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 12:16:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout05.plus.net (avasout05.plus.net [84.93.230.250]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C752584E29 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 12:14:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([86.170.40.190]) by avasout05 with smtp id xuH71o00246A4U601uH9zC; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 19:17:10 +0100 a=KUFOdUGTIqGL6hDMoZS1lQ==:117 a=KUFOdUGTIqGL6hDMoZS1lQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=2ciaTQvf_9oA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=e9JlLs5LP_TkdJrxmksA:9 a=biYOIgeTf8kdKETM:21 a=BN2FkHlvbWKKMyha:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=GRuFdhU3rW4A:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: "'Roger Grace'" , "'Healey List'" References: <6E29B74EFCD44C0BAE2B5C6B723D393A@WINDOWST93OFP9> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 19:17:08 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac/djTljRZfukXtJSZCorp6/CSqiAwAFG2Ag Content-Language: en-gb Subject: Re: [Healeys] Classic & Sports Cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Yes and on page 230 an ad for a "Historically Important Austin Healey 100" NWD 34. 30th June 1953.......35th RHD car. Etcetc.Serious enquiries, offers invited. Plus plenty of other Healeys of course. Mostly POA which means prices are getting silly? Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Grace Sent: 01 October 2014 16:31 To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Classic & Sports Cars The October issue has a cover and great feature article on AH bWhy this is still Britainbs finest sporting dynastyb ... rg $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 14:01:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A5025845B0 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 14:01:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121C425845B0 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 13:58:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-16v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.240]) by resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id xw181o0055BUCh401w1D7b; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 20:01:13 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:6:2180:a91:e1e6:dec6:819a:1623] ([IPv6:2601:6:2180:a91:e1e6:dec6:819a:1623]) by resomta-po-16v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id xw141o00E4Vr2FS01w18Bm; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 20:01:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 16:01:11 -0400 From: Kent McLean User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.2 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: s=q20140121; t=1412193673; bh=b0zzJle1zVPWg4nQk8rjLxTQZJaiFwRdlnvlzsZAUws=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=l6lmEXgiXVVM74aNElsFOd9MbHyZUpVZuvCiCJ+1jwQVSNNWC0Dr5DFg74w9S4p6G mcteIl7MlgWWqSDPRx8WuFi884MQ1r1L4W4aEzPTW/nV36N8w0bV2oAiARmqolq2Ti xGR67BdkCwzZ2sqfEGYe4Jy3A3MEVcMdo7pBa0QnlLtWxd7BwHbmN4ruJzz5CnRhEb akrehrFl3OrQyyDKVBatWs8+/2+j54fo/TWa4p0GrnRNNyTEFE7vq16lYu75sY5nfA wXq8WownkuLTNN+mP9LBF5lRTjrQniadfyC+kWHaDyLG9OukbznQnpCmn8XucCaBQJ zNv+d0gcNKohQ== Subject: Re: [Healeys] No Healey Content - Dad's Fire Engine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Bob Spidell wrote: > Some of you may recall I've mentioned my father's restoration of an old fire engine. The local paper did an article on it: > http://www.modbee.com/2014/09/29/3565514/jeff-jardine-modesto-man-rekindles.html Nice. If he's looking for another challenge, I like what the Blastolene people did with an old fire engine to create Big Bertha. I like the looks, and then you put a person in the driver's seat for scale and ... Wow! http://blastoland.com/blastoland/BIG_BERTHA.html -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 19:26:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E19D2584DF1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 19:26:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC4S25.hotmail.com (bay004-omc4s25.hotmail.com [65.54.190.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A47A258462E for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 19:25:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY169-W105 ([65.54.190.199]) by BAY004-OMC4S25.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:28:40 -0700 From: jim lesher To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 21:28:40 -0400 FILETIME=[327ADFC0:01CFDDE0] Subject: [Healeys] Anyone need anything for a 100-Six or early 3000? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I will be going to Hershey next week and if you need anything - fenders, doors, shrouds, mufflers, new AMCO top, heater unit, misc bits and literature - owners handbooks, service manuals or parts books. just let me know, I might have what you are looking for to complete a project jim _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 04:32:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3572C258097C for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 04:32:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail15.tpgi.com.au (mail15.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48A0258053B for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 04:29:58 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1412245980; bh=IVzjry2qRqa3LBPDQBYiIphIX9DoyUCbI80uQOI0NTI=; h=X-TPG-Abuse:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=JC5D3O6UJWdpDFpNCkEiB9TNPOSg6A0FzMBSd2stRJ5J9AoW/+Koj7oxulb/KUtXg Ag1gUvTbfzyHcflotQtC4/8eJu9w558n/NWtVJRht0WNuFNBw5NnYiq8G4FUw5j6Iq E/Fd2eFN3H6hxvsiyMC++Ns9nUohVS4rQV0v5go8= date=Thu, 2 Oct 2014 20:32:59 +1000 Received: from PatrickQuinnPC (60-241-154-199.static.tpgi.com.au [60.241.154.199]) by mail15.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from p_cquinn@tpg.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s92AWwCF006815; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 20:32:59 +1000 From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" To: "'jim lesher'" , References: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 20:32:58 +1000 Thread-Index: AQDn4M5Dad800FJGHTs8+Xc08U1OLJ3sli6A Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anyone need anything for a 100-Six or early 3000? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hello I have a friend here in Australia who has been looking for a set of hood-bows for his 3000 Mk1 BT7 for some time without success. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jim lesher Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2014 11:29 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Anyone need anything for a 100-Six or early 3000? I will be going to Hershey next week and if you need anything - fenders, doors, shrouds, mufflers, new AMCO top, heater unit, misc bits and literature - owners handbooks, service manuals or parts books. just let me know, I might have what you are looking for to complete a project jim $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn@tpg.com.au _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 10:02:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE312584E2F for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 10:02:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f52.google.com (mail-pa0-f52.google.com [209.85.220.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22B52580751 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 10:00:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fb1so2778349pad.11 for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2014 09:03:34 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:importance; bh=K43ohbNuJwnMr94aQcULcRGpzj6e6HKXebyQPiAStQE=; b=nuZIb1CZY35fWdTPLK09iyuBNWrokz2XP+qSAZ4mHexb7YCrAtMGAyU4hmtu/i6zPY F06ZsRZvx5LJwzBQPosGbJH/H5pX8b8bRkvaat72N/DvQeFah6ssDFswFkB3M5rtcwn8 uAy/zVnsCtIjuL3S2e0lrr9HwVimHcF2Pzok1wgAgqgWKm1LFkWxe51/2g91TWK9SLhK MnDIFsO02cBCxd56yb2Vv1mnRoLA8pS+vNVFxeqZUMr3ENDLuvRnOAJFo0Vt9ZuWmLod 64fycd2ef9DdsI0caGhztLhn2qwN4AEpH1bCx8vw8Dlfb2XYlOHUMk9iUebMYg3SzQvM DFNA== ti8mr88406969pac.27.1412265812287; Thu, 02 Oct 2014 09:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DavidNockHP (107-220-108-239.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [107.220.108.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id sb2sm4077297pbc.24.2014.10.02.09.03.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 02 Oct 2014 09:03:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Nock" To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" , "'jim lesher'" , References: <00bc01cfde2c$3d124ad0$b736e070$@tpg.com.au> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 09:03:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anyone need anything for a 100-Six or early 3000? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net For some reason the BT7 top frames are very hard to find good used ones. They are available new and fit well. David Nock healeydoc@sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com -----Original Message----- From: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 3:32 AM To: 'jim lesher' ; healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anyone need anything for a 100-Six or early 3000? Hello I have a friend here in Australia who has been looking for a set of hood-bows for his 3000 Mk1 BT7 for some time without success. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jim lesher Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2014 11:29 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Anyone need anything for a 100-Six or early 3000? I will be going to Hershey next week and if you need anything - fenders, doors, shrouds, mufflers, new AMCO top, heater unit, misc bits and literature - owners handbooks, service manuals or parts books. just let me know, I might have what you are looking for to complete a project jim $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn@tpg.com.au Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 16:50:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBAF2584438 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 16:50:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from visioncenterpc.com (cbl-static-80-009.machlink.com [69.49.80.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8E42580B7C for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 16:50:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 10.50.10.11 ([10.50.10.11]) by server.visioncenter.local ([10.50.10.11]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 22:52:52 +0000 From: "Chris Scholz" thread-topic: Paint code for colorado red thread-index: Ac/ek5j6hR2PR6yDR9yAiDTpQCeaHA== Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 17:53:28 -0500 To: "AustinHealey List" Subject: [Healeys] Paint code for colorado red Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I am restoring my '59 100-6 and I will have the painter do a two stage base/clear coat. I would like to know if anyone has the modern day paint code for PPG for colorado red. The car has white coves and I plan to use old English white which has the code ARGWT3. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 23:42:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8213A2584968 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 23:42:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail12.tpgi.com.au (mail12.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF752580984 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 23:41:45 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1412315087; bh=kuCi3/9TnYkv7AqQf8VDNXWDyTiyGN4kQu7ww9V3ptw=; h=X-TPG-Abuse:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=kLQiyzjKpy/oQPr3sFBCUZKselq22tLWgFD/kYVuVZu+JviiSjSOv1Nki1ZJVQw3r yY8uygTKWPISKLufCQcnizaBY9M32YLlhJzGmDN35iUqkKfgy22LppSA5y2FwFM/hM 5lef8hmXEuCg684nWKdvMO+X7FoDMiPBFLZm7aq8= date=Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:44:47 +1000 Received: from PatrickQuinnPC (60-241-154-199.static.tpgi.com.au [60.241.154.199]) by mail12.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from p_cquinn@tpg.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s935ijZR029134 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:44:47 +1000 From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" To: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:44:45 +1000 Thread-Index: Ac/ezLrZCkG+IfdeQdSkrJiSEpizVQ== Content-Language: en-au Subject: [Healeys] Antipodean Racing Austin-Healey Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net G'day If you're interested in a competition Austin-Healey in the antipodes you might like to have a look at the recent edition in this:- http://bmcexperience.com.au/home.html Yes I do have a connection as not only did I write it, but I was also paid cash money for it. As a little bonus there is even a photo of not only the owner (in flat hat) and but me as well driving it. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 02:26:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39692258495D for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 02:26:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC0C2580B73 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 02:25:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id em10so1354523wid.7 for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 01:29:00 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=kqeIT30LYkiRJiZD+jCt5WOWFnd558U0V/xZbhTyBmU=; b=NdXNqepf2A/m+Y5b5blRZqFvJqalgxfCFcqnOfnO17nO0S2sWxebJtZ9iVzebEDfqy keB3FqOKWr1wY8GaH3jVmdBU01+dT8DBRkgNQn6QEf+Dn4Uh4hGgs58pNCYH75y1QDvF 3caaQPy0ivVs2rZ5MgEJpsslatCGS3kYNuQ8BLvO7BYtR8tEC/bTfKcHbwldqvCGeQZb +haDJqE1N1CAHCni9JKlO/AXnBKMflVmvhpfDiltfvVi1UutFua/iq3Ny6YPrKXPzhqZ fdMlSxOrZTN3xfwAon8TYrc4ut35aF8P9rmxAUE4F4sHWHRtwr9TGOqtg7IVvSdGxtrd 0bIA== fy1mr10541599wic.83.1412324940416; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 01:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DesktopPC (host217-39-106-23.range217-39.btcentralplus.com. [217.39.106.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k10sm7195778wjb.28.2014.10.03.01.28.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Oct 2014 01:28:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bluehealey" To: "'Chris Scholz'" , "'AustinHealey List'" References: <0EBD81A4-17D4-47F0-92F7-82600E3D9B1D@visioncenterpc.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 09:28:54 +0100 Thread-Index: AQKOojzcqeTNXgY3TWgtFALxGlVTppqggqvQ Content-Language: en-gb Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint code for colorado red Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Chris. It will be ARG.RD2. I attach a copy of the PPG recipe for DN BC Solid which unfortunately the list will strip. _________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield_______________) (______\__1957-BN4__1959-AN5__/______) (_____BlueHealey.com______) -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Scholz Sent: 02 October 2014 23:53 To: AustinHealey List Subject: [Healeys] Paint code for colorado red I am restoring my '59 100-6 and I will have the painter do a two stage base/clear coat. I would like to know if anyone has the modern day paint code for PPG for colorado red. The car has white coves and I plan to use old English white which has the code ARGWT3. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of PPGColorado.jpg] _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 02:36:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146E62584999 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 02:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CC72580BB0 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 02:36:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hi2so1379020wib.8 for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 01:39:20 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=OnGFWzm7IfoB3w8vqwHPgjt4dQ27rTAD9Zfi4w4tyZk=; b=HaoYf2G0cCx33dQjGuBt2sKXceOX4/y0ftbS3y0kEktX3NaU/J0GjblAlTlpy1LYOB MSvfeRmGAAeoSIwvQkn8PuzyPwMWn594JLO1cbYPiehgyVJwIyXWK+y0Dm3LujJ94PL8 fhI4OyXIlNdllk/MA6/56jNKn0a1sFhb8myd12f1bWm0E2rn1l8WqR6bHZXqFwNsqjPG 1NpwWRvQOJaB0Ue+aO10XXuVgjJPW768Be3dWXQ7tgG/OmQaQxN02mnMjzmS1nBLva0l vBwGQhA79LreKVBLx8EpTE+lSrz6YsG/iWYwaR7jKdPKtRM6xH40I7xxm0a209CrdsAf B97g== gy7mr5190630wjc.39.1412325560812; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 01:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DesktopPC (host217-39-106-23.range217-39.btcentralplus.com. [217.39.106.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u8sm1328960wia.24.2014.10.03.01.39.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Oct 2014 01:39:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bluehealey" To: "'Chris Scholz'" , "'AustinHealey List'" References: <0EBD81A4-17D4-47F0-92F7-82600E3D9B1D@visioncenterpc.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 09:39:15 +0100 Thread-Index: AQKOojzcqeTNXgY3TWgtFALxGlVTppqggqvQ Content-Language: en-gb Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint code for colorado red Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Team. I've poked the image onto my website at: http://www.bluehealey.com/PPGColorado.jpg Enjoy. Hi Chris. It will be ARG.RD2. I attach a copy of the PPG recipe for DN BC Solid which unfortunately the list will strip. _________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield_______________) (______\__1957-BN4__1959-AN5__/______) (_____BlueHealey.com______) -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Scholz Sent: 02 October 2014 23:53 To: AustinHealey List Subject: [Healeys] Paint code for colorado red I am restoring my '59 100-6 and I will have the painter do a two stage base/clear coat. I would like to know if anyone has the modern day paint code for PPG for colorado red. The car has white coves and I plan to use old English white which has the code ARGWT3. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of PPGColorado.jpg] _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 5 13:44:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC8925845C3 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 13:44:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f175.google.com (mail-pd0-f175.google.com [209.85.192.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEE925809FC for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 13:38:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f175.google.com with SMTP id v10so2163710pde.6 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 12:41:38 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=98OYnDm/keCunBzhpxujmHNz4Jzui6JyToMseVQiuZg=; b=dP9xvZrNYwAjhXvfIFuF1ol6KK6fjeLGjdpeAzmnHHVIz9Q8BQ2By+qVJXj/s5C7DP 1+uGpqKIweoZ8byETCoeSUlfn0/QjPnepZ9hlJu5z8aQjU8xOmb+8DmpBogikHEUK9vm b6ZTMkYPGo2DqUFrXK4iGArspfGy/edM/4XrbCoeV3IQb9iTWlWPIWxG1YzJS2RODpNS uJr2BSREeSnuPLDkS0/SRCnF5lYVZeMejuAtjBA4swKmEo5jAWkaqZLVDSa4VxHRqDg5 aOStEDhowzHAmgjhjFETbx0ua8VkcoA4JbLj+GIISPeCd303eSX0y9+spG6iEwX9HFcz nBPA== kq8mr14108353pdb.1.1412538098706; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 12:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.15.195 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 12:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 15:41:38 -0400 From: brad Holden To: Healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Rich Crysler's son Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Could someone please advise how to get in touch with Rich Chrysler's son? I know he is doing interior work and I would like to get in touch with him. Many thanks. Brad Holden 67 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 5 14:00:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767CA25845CC for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 14:00:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f45.google.com (mail-qa0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CB8258449B for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 13:59:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id s7so2760368qap.4 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:02:46 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:subject:date:to; bh=i+uxkak4GhioE00d4DxLzwMaVwBzyVj6CHQ67E+tOB0=; b=XKv1/o0y4VzMF1KCdIYRS+SS18pJOwrtO2AHrNwZJAv9TG7qD0fHN8gOV3dJiFPyJt 7v5EsrHZur2kq0S7bSIqpdxusptnRjDmSR7LNBGvtA3URp9m9lG0lcRSegs/19XZBoNc EP1swFwvxKnn6zDAraNJTVlvmerBBhoSTGlyKQsFYRCAQErqX0DjLCKjPBNjWAZqWIDx 4i7fFakPbB8f46Tklg1tXZuvOGn9LhW9oNc/eQv1iC253rL+ny+AXVveDQXrPcWJgoBB vs4z0oSUi5Bv0vRZ2FCR6G8w/O3fTxxqznOoG6EX6LQ29k5KQqAcNORcpJr2PVVZD4Xv 6Pjg== b62mr18896531qga.25.1412539366739; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.98.95.65] (mobile-198-228-197-220.mycingular.net. [198.228.197.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z89sm10932717qge.39.2014.10.05.13.02.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:02:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Hicks References: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 16:02:44 -0400 To: "bradh904@gmail.com" Cc: "Healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rich Crysler's son Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Geoff's telephone number is; 250-813-2090. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 5 14:45:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD4125846C2 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 14:45:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f181.google.com (mail-ig0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F642584628 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 14:44:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f181.google.com with SMTP id r10so1768825igi.8 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:47:41 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:mime-version:to:from:subject:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type; bh=3bnEI5iigNuYeGswO2h+6NLwLpC629MbZ3wgVytn6hY=; b=HHJCvXhCMj2qchD06+gH0zpT5FUpwgtzP2Rm+OSEXdXFjYvlUTezmEA7NBZVEyyLTq Kj2exTt7zX+35IkiZ4N1Km3eLfIQzBNW0XXBO8ZZSDJCRY5FBVWIVXc8DPa8tOgBLpxf NLnlZASpU1t7ReOqS0vCcrPd2bUOHcVPpQ0Dimlk2CMJg6UiNwL3chGhqn0EsXPDWKQZ 8EazbgTJfNDMtIppsdTnYnMlJk4YmLRviDrUs0eZIoFEGMtSEVlPB9lRu9ZlNc+p6mpP 8Gc4ulm1giAD5zbBvLAC/eJX4wDPGa/PAwd3LX3VpaWRM0hrEYkZ6ASTv29+5Bq/vfM4 wnYA== gc2mr16193272igd.40.1412542061293; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.113] ([69.17.191.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z5sm7758270igl.21.2014.10.05.13.47.38 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:47:39 -0700 (PDT) To: , "Healeys@autox.team.net" From: Michael Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 16:47:26 -0400 References: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rich Crysler's son Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net And his email is good2bgca@yahoo.ca Highly recommended. Michael S BN1 #174 -----Original Message----- From: "brad Holden" Sent: b10/b5/b2014 3:47 PM To: "Healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] Rich Crysler's son Could someone please advise how to get in touch with Rich Chrysler's son? I know he is doing interior work and I would like to get in touch with him. Many thanks. Brad Holden 67 BJ8 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 5 21:02:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC94B25806B8 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 21:02:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C553425805FD for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 20:57:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.99]) by resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id zezT1o00129Cfhx01f0QKH; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 03:00:24 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([98.207.131.183]) by resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id zf0P1o00N3xa1La01f0Qnk; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 03:00:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2014 20:00:23 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeylist s=q20140121; t=1412564424; bh=UwH9dzNQVxyUhnvJYOezWaGqY09Y0a1IDOjb8QWmboI=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=SIb6PxH+gAbx+yFz6Lq1Axm/setNnfY6K0NZ5ojoXC/3SJrwMMEwYPmi4iX3gm7FZ toes/MHc1y2pFgMdE9pxbEDnvhat5hgXgHjhzmP/Ot5kFcY3M7bH2Ba/MsvKw45rGL k8vL0/fE9Cugacw4UyI2X8i+Ta2JHwfIbM5ZIHOkK5rVO5ooWS/6/+EBMl9GJYJWOJ vmH0pGw+Xh4NZYKv/D9+LMrgjcJ2s7wip2ca3TpLm0WQ6wF/nAytzHzGHEU+7cu8od MK9cUZr3O/CQwaHELUBu031qXOSDS3nTD2ZEsUwfRg6PYwAeJSvySOsVg0pjuhMA5l BihjVgwTI/Pew== Subject: [Healeys] Classics Monthly Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Stopped at the local Barnes & Noble to grab the Classics and Sports and/or the Hemmings mags featuring Healeys. Struck out on those two--the C&S is still the Sep. edition!--but spotted a mag called Classics Monthly I'd never heard of. They have an article 'Big Healey at 50' with photos of a 100 and a BJ8 on the cover. Haven't read the article yet, thought I'd just pass the info on. Healeys are hot Hot HOT right now. Bob -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 00:03:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A47258069D for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 00:03:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f53.google.com (mail-oi0-f53.google.com [209.85.218.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CAA258069D for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 23:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f53.google.com with SMTP id v63so3205157oia.12 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:57:41 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i8Ai05qQl9lzmn1Vp9kVnNxpvHjGoeEYTm/+aOWQS+w=; b=WoIsvsqGCwjviBjD1fc73YDJ9u9EVcjlIwD1qUEZMBS/wf5su44I98EXqDyPhlWy5w rMxl88uZufh5BwPxvx5MdCpbildG0DPYYvR3m/ycZzvnVkcVn/mHbFTdrNwa9bmVLb7+ qLCLX6fHKNFbKmTLwnQJJ+E14culxOrVN8y3t0z9QiS0IsyqL/eBDgo6KfzqTAFyQdTy UTCZ7Uesklu7142f6ELPhetpJHybS3KdX1m5uMlmvcGFJBHTpakPmCOFeKDUW3QvsPGa zrTbHp5EB5HYrTUIPveowM+fbLwC911nEFh2ce+7/nTOqFWoRmWUDHnqXDrldTqVlKms CL+A== dd7mr24528512oeb.4.1412575061752; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 22:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 22:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 22:57:41 -0700 From: I Erbs To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] 4 hours in London Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Howdy, I just booked a flight to Israel for June/July 2015. I have a 10 hour layover at Heathrow. I figure that gives me 4-5 hours to visit London. My wife and I were disappointed with the fish and chips we found on our last visit. Can someone recommend a propper chipper? We will then plan out visit around that. I'm also up for a quick pint if anyone wants to join us. Cheers. Ira Erbs Portland,OR IT Educator and Consultant sent from my smartphone. what you get, May not be what I meant to send _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 00:33:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED702584A66 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 00:33:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3EB258051C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 00:28:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141006063202.WDMB32389.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 02:32:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([68.8.99.146]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id ziY11o00C39WC8c01iY1Dw; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 02:32:01 -0400 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=ndkrOFB8AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=8XfkXVmAHboyNvTA0_4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Wilko2 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 23:32:01 -0700 References: To: I Erbs Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] 4 hours in London Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I spent most of last year in Windsor (near London). There a fish/chip shops everywhere. Different styles for different tastes. Time Out is the local's resource for most everything: http://www.timeout.com/london/restaurants/londons-best-fish-and-chip-restaura nts But if you know you want high quality (the cheap stuff is great once you get used to it) Harrod's food hall has the best everything! Harrod's will put you in a great area of town. Kensington my a be a bit busy for a big shopping street but you'll be real close to Chelsea which has King's road. On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:57 PM, I Erbs wrote: > Howdy, > I just booked a flight to Israel for June/July 2015. I have a 10 hour > layover at Heathrow. I figure that gives me 4-5 hours to visit London. My > wife and I were disappointed with the fish and chips we found on our last > visit. Can someone recommend a propper chipper? We will then plan out visit > around that. I'm also up for a quick pint if anyone wants to join us. > Cheers. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > IT Educator and Consultant > sent from my smartphone. what you get, May not be what I meant to send > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins@cox.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 01:18:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87332584AA7 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 01:18:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep47.mx.upcmail.net (fep47.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5AC25802EB for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 01:17:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe47-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141006072025.PZQL7778.viepfeppe47-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:20:25 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id zjLP1o00u0Hh4wo01jLPpC; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 09:20:23 +0200 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 09:20:25 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <543205C7.50400@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Classics Monthly Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Classic Monthly is one of the nicest classic car magazines around, together with Practical Classics. may be not as glossy and not such splendid photography as in Classic and Sports Cars and the like but much more practical and informative. Kees Oudesluijs NL Bob Spidell schreef op 6-10-2014 5:00: > Stopped at the local Barnes & Noble to grab the Classics and Sports > and/or the Hemmings mags featuring Healeys. Struck out on those > two--the C&S is still the Sep. edition!--but spotted a mag called > Classics Monthly I'd never heard of. They have an article 'Big Healey > at 50' with photos of a 100 and a BJ8 on the cover. Haven't read the > article yet, thought I'd just pass the info on. > > Healeys are hot Hot HOT right now. > > > Bob _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 03:39:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800D02584B06 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 03:39:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta009.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F4E258042C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 03:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F23384087; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:42:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AE8384081; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:42:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from [10.0.0.11] (unknown [62.49.5.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:42:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:42:39 +0100 From: Peter Dzwig Organization: Summa Ventures Ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Healey References: <22A103E5-2A77-40D5-92B5-8EC16FC4E260@cox.net> Cc: I Erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] 4 hours in London Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net On 06/10/2014 07:32, Wilko2 wrote: > I spent most of last year in Windsor (near London). > > There a fish/chip shops everywhere. Different styles for different tastes. > > Time Out is the local's resource for most everything: > http://www.timeout.com/london/restaurants/londons-best-fish-and-chip-restaura > nts > > But if you know you want high quality (the cheap stuff is great once you get > used to it) Harrod's food hall has the best everything! > do NOT touch Harrods for Fish and Chips. Kensington doesn't do F&C in any real way! There are one or two good chippies in Fulham and Chelsea (though not on the main roads) and around Chelsea football ground itself. Most good chippies fry in the evenings only which will probably clash with your schedule. If you can find one SeaFare is a good chain, but I don't know whether there is one around Heathrow. You could try Ealing or Uxbridge, neither of which are tourist areas. Peter -- =========================================================== Dr Peter Dzwig _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 05:24:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE292584B3E for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 05:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3580E2580877 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 05:24:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-14v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.110]) by resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id znT71o0022PT3Qt01nT7BU; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 11:27:07 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([98.207.131.183]) by resomta-ch2-14v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id znT61o0033xa1La01nT6Wn; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 11:27:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 04:27:06 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Oudesluys , healeys@autox.team.net References: <543205C7.50400@comcast.net> <543242B9.2010209@chello.nl> s=q20140121; t=1412594827; bh=UYRPsW1eE78T+OjNOcgmYJS30CXYOkqnTfhZAqfWY1E=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=lpJy2qyDGKUKRIs7z+5tswk9zrLlo4MWe2epj22qOY9wm4CWhEfruojZLhkHrgScq CQiZ70/UkkTBW5AXwKMgwqe2f72F+ow1BWFjocmWSmn0e+FVxNS33Y6rkJ1XGHSb7t IPt41+SYiyfUn1s89G8w907Bs+S6H6KHJKMrRQG6OKmj2QFlYJLFmTScsOOkJSuCCQ GgYO8VRNoLbuoV3hnjJpqx9APkKKY9+QUXkRXUvOgqTyOp5jLGbFFHZ5F8lYEOtdjg HHLOIsyJy//Z1rWt7zCLSltviR7dfZw/UfVk/ff/kbv8kHlvKnWNLvbdu1LzvWA9SN sW9DMAZbWR7Mw== Subject: Re: [Healeys] Classics Monthly Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Noticed when I got home it was the August edition. Bob On 10/6/2014 12:20 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > Classic Monthly is one of the nicest classic car magazines around, together with Practical Classics. may be not as > glossy and not such splendid photography as in Classic and Sports Cars and the like but much more practical and > informative. > > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Bob Spidell schreef op 6-10-2014 5:00: >> Stopped at the local Barnes & Noble to grab the Classics and Sports and/or the Hemmings mags featuring Healeys. >> Struck out on those two--the C&S is still the Sep. edition!--but spotted a mag called Classics Monthly I'd never >> heard of. They have an article 'Big Healey at 50' with photos of a 100 and a BJ8 on the cover. Haven't read the >> article yet, thought I'd just pass the info on. >> >> Healeys are hot Hot HOT right now. >> >> >> Bob > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 09:06:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE4B2584B51 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:06:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E1325848EF for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 08:58:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141006150142.QOPA5235.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:01:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([68.8.99.146]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id zr1h1o00F39WC8c01r1hhv; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 11:01:41 -0400 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:17 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=pow1C5c_AAAA:8 a=ndkrOFB8AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=__MDPUmhiLqzzYhOzwQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=Lx4VApawmaVbungS:21 a=Zj8Nw8WjzcqznXQx:21 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Wilko2 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 08:01:41 -0700 Cc: Healey References: <22A103E5-2A77-40D5-92B5-8EC16FC4E260@cox.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 4 hours in London Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Well, I was just putting you into "London". That timeout list is pretty much spot on. They can all vary depending on how much grease you want. For many, that grease is key. Harrod's is too expensive. Where ever you go, ask/wait for a fresh batch of chips. Outer areas that are still close enough to allow a bit of sightseeing are Fulham and a bit further west like Hammersmith where you'll find lots of places, lots of chains. In that area is also a serious classic car dealer with a very high end showroom and "museum": http://www.landmarkcars.co.uk/ On Oct 6, 2014, at 2:42 AM, Peter Dzwig wrote: > On 06/10/2014 07:32, Wilko2 wrote: >> I spent most of last year in Windsor (near London). >> >> There a fish/chip shops everywhere. Different styles for different tastes. >> >> Time Out is the local's resource for most everything: >> http://www.timeout.com/london/restaurants/londons-best-fish-and-chip-restaura >> nts >> >> But if you know you want high quality (the cheap stuff is great once you get >> used to it) Harrod's food hall has the best everything! >> > > > do NOT touch Harrods for Fish and Chips. Kensington doesn't do F&C in any real > way! There are one or two good chippies in Fulham and Chelsea (though not on the > main roads) and around Chelsea football ground itself. Most good chippies fry in > the evenings only which will probably clash with your schedule. > > If you can find one SeaFare is a good chain, but I don't know whether there is > one around Heathrow. You could try Ealing or Uxbridge, neither of which are > tourist areas. > > Peter > > -- > > =========================================================== > Dr Peter Dzwig > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins@cox.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 10:13:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3F02584BD4 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:13:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep43.mx.upcmail.net (fep43.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D428C2580468 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:13:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe43-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141006161608.RQFA8410.viepfeppe43-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:16:08 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id zsG61o00W0Hh4wo01sG6NH; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:16:06 +0200 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:16:08 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <22A103E5-2A77-40D5-92B5-8EC16FC4E260@cox.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 4 hours in London Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wilko2 schreef op 6-10-2014 17:01: > Where ever you go, ask/wait for a fresh batch of chips Traditionally it should be soggy chips and vinegar in yesterdays paper, chaps. Kees Oudesluijs _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 11:22:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFA92584C9A for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:22:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f48.google.com (mail-oi0-f48.google.com [209.85.218.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6BE258099A for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:17:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f48.google.com with SMTP id g201so3882024oib.35 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:20:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=exViCZWG31NOTbMXLWoPi6c9sigwZqPfuYFHiOiv9GA=; b=KPmqDYEjQA1B+HpuPWHeii6/sfZ6lD+N1xe6h7sVHW5drfG7eOrCAtoVBq84PBop5i FKUR5mTEK7aBXKNEF7ztTWvtbqNv5F51PvFYEvvrll4UrJ3uJuntaJXbgrTNc20m4Nvm 4tklfZGUCGZyHzeiAyvxLQiTjwkPJ2wPnq6fxt1FkmAYXr1x1ui3J90m9lCQj9A8v4j/ DHyly633fMQVOu75RRLYunSQHZrnO8LfNBkKekypA10ZGmQXSM5s2IoN9BH7oVss92Ct mDAWq1AK2WW+KICsKLq5RbwMLlhZ0znNSYZmvrXPf/8DjTLG7JoSSMkkuhSFF4dE2z0w I5xg== j1mr4983365oes.69.1412616051274; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:20:21 -0700 (PDT) References: <22A103E5-2A77-40D5-92B5-8EC16FC4E260@cox.net> <5432C048.2080500@chello.nl> From: I Erbs Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:20:21 -0700 To: Oudesluys Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] 4 hours in London Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Kees, I agree. I guess I did not mean to start a "best oil" debate on Fish and Chips. It is interesting to see folks opinions though. I have begun a internet search on best places to eat Fish and Chips. Some overlap between sites and list suggestions. we will now look for other things to do in the areas around the food. Cheers Please keep suggestions coming. You can email off list. This is really interesting to me. Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > Wilko2 schreef op 6-10-2014 17:01: > >> Where ever you go, ask/wait for a fresh batch of chips >> > Traditionally it should be soggy chips and vinegar in yesterdays paper, > chaps. > > Kees Oudesluijs > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 11:43:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9878D258462A for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:43:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDAD25807F2 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:43:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141006174618.ZPAK8128.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:46:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([68.8.99.146]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id ztmE1o00X39WC8c01tmE9p; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:46:18 -0400 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=PJfgy2eFK8afMFd8uOwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Wilko2 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:46:13 -0700 References: <22A103E5-2A77-40D5-92B5-8EC16FC4E260@cox.net> <5432C048.2080500@chello.nl> To: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] 4 hours in London Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net What didn't you like about what you got? what would you think of as "good" fish and chips? Maybe just jam around and try a bunch? if it's crappy, just put 'em down and move on! The east end will have a bunch. In Windsor there was a Neptune's (chain) real close to our flat. Some times it was great, some times not so much. We'd get chicken there, or just chips. On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:20 AM, I Erbs wrote: > Kees, > I agree. > I guess I did not mean to start a "best oil" debate on Fish and Chips. It > is interesting to see folks opinions though. I have begun a internet search > on best places to eat Fish and Chips. Some overlap between sites and list > suggestions. we will now look for other things to do in the areas around > the food. > Cheers > Please keep suggestions coming. You can email off list. This is really > interesting to me. > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) > (_________________________) > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Wilko2 schreef op 6-10-2014 17:01: >> >>> Where ever you go, ask/wait for a fresh batch of chips _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 18:56:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B79E2584EF2 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:56:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4236925806FE for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:52:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from MikeE6230 ([unknown] [100.0.162.77]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0ND100FVGUKB8JJ1@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for healeys@autox.team.net; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 19:55:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Garvey" To: "'I Erbs'" , "'Ahealey help'" References: Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 20:55:25 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac/hK568fOmFN8w1RXmHZM2skCGBhwAnX5cQ Subject: Re: [Healeys] 4 hours in London Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net (Strong) recommendation that you visit Kew Gardens (if Victorian gardens/greenhouses are your cup o' tea); there is a fish and chips pub nearby that is very good. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 1:58 AM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] 4 hours in London Howdy, I just booked a flight to Israel for June/July 2015. I have a 10 hour layover at Heathrow. I figure that gives me 4-5 hours to visit London. My wife and I were disappointed with the fish and chips we found on our last visit. Can someone recommend a propper chipper? We will then plan out visit around that. I'm also up for a quick pint if anyone wants to join us. Cheers. Ira Erbs Portland,OR IT Educator and Consultant sent from my smartphone. what you get, May not be what I meant to send $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/r3m1g4@verizon.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 02:00:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DE42584640 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 02:00:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (mail-la0-f48.google.com [209.85.215.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8505F2580712 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 02:00:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id gi9so5755259lab.7 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 01:03:24 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PAZMwYjKcSFMQ32ORN9ePFbQdgatD1EbxCQvPS0+4v8=; b=LDeer5KK7P6F799+2PPCiTRmnlWmr0de13gtc+JoxZDK3GVaTijef3vIoDVEoxkLl3 P8zz0PNWfz+4P6taEVaVtVH0o+MGDEe8a0NhI1sGGP0YvaxZFESEvJiumgwl/GFr7p41 5DyLpLt87kXPH51REn4AkHWUBD0BFz6UNe0ImqP9l2ZwDWDlkr/KdXqaNhPpLE4sqgzK 71qXBcil/HIcl7GkCXLdOGh6JuzdvNPg4VcG/z+sntWDC8Pr8I0/7nIP3WoHfM03L5Pm FNFe5iByfICnYYPePFAa9vFfwqQUx2fShaRiuKHbi0YJbexElkVepl31Yj3GTPGd0vd0 53+Q== th7mr2185013lbb.84.1412669004131; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 01:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.197.6 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 01:03:24 -0700 (PDT) References: <00a901cfe1c9$61e7c8d0$25b75a70$@net> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:03:24 +0100 From: Derek Job To: Mike Garvey Cc: Ahealey help , I Erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] 4 hours in London Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Just remember that getting into, out of and around London can take much longer than you think. The Heathrow Express is the best option for getting in and out. Derek On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Mike Garvey wrote: > (Strong) recommendation that you visit Kew Gardens (if Victorian > gardens/greenhouses are your cup o' tea); there is a fish and chips pub > nearby that is very good. > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 1:58 AM > To: Ahealey help > Subject: [Healeys] 4 hours in London > > Howdy, > I just booked a flight to Israel for June/July 2015. I have a 10 hour > layover at Heathrow. I figure that gives me 4-5 hours to visit London. My > wife and I were disappointed with the fish and chips we found on our last > visit. Can someone recommend a propper chipper? We will then plan out visit > around that. I'm also up for a quick pint if anyone wants to join us. > Cheers. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > IT Educator and Consultant > sent from my smartphone. what you get, May not be what I meant to send > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/r3m1g4@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 13:06:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E429425848D0 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:06:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f45.google.com (mail-oi0-f45.google.com [209.85.218.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217AF2580962 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i138so5639133oig.18 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:08:53 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=GnjntTcHGJ8IMSTzOLHLnOM3w65I/YHzaaOFYmfN+S4=; b=JHiGM8aRrMgVAYS00WRaj+THyOw+8GKZSewQDQ3zfsqoCYWcX5x2QgE7Pwt/XOf3+K O4/h3FtdxrTGmG0M+aMcQU7z+S680Omb8ek1zfOsM2eMeUrM6LGmrMAjZj871FImuEHR ldXsElk7zUhE3tstIKenv9jyRV3BEQONrOxiWe9+6Y5epGLLJcZ4bZVZGo/IZIPepM6C jlrInHBmzOXc5PcpaSzQbKJ2pQP5Zu4QTGLx4ZUGJ60IKuxD1SnuZJ7WboSH9F6ASAKV ipCx+bSZb7OqSMEjBZTBDdPPwrTuRcnRKyNaIf23pGT/T85D5MyIp2cgTysmensjfGhw TbiA== ol7mr6681965obc.73.1412708933206; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:08:23 -0700 (PDT) From: I Erbs Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:08:23 -0700 To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] car and driver online Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en&shva=1#inbox/148ebff8e92979db I can't view this at work, but it shows a pretty Healey on the cover Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 15:35:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AA32584E4B for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:35:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f43.google.com (mail-oi0-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686DC25808BB for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:30:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f43.google.com with SMTP id u20so5829047oif.30 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:33:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=8Nsa8tFBB4/W09O5g+r5QCKqRNuh6s6smUI/YF6RTkU=; b=XMwxifRtA+yb39ebvtrBNd3NGLC8FDQflWO1Giu6+wwvUj45r2aISCkP9S0NIVeX6j 8LRFTwUBPC2fpQcxNhvsi/xkjGKQKdWabfzvoXFFzH6yDPpLzftOIocTwMvs3kCkEyfk dN/GtW21/jz1W5KGNCeMT28Q1Hab94LH77zl3+wtexDgyR7eQ0rzqZOO3VhTBGV+2363 VUyyJiUsZe7g3DcCSUnN1bGBuZrZeqSc9DaodOJ9VDSO/U556bgFQb/XGt2vpjb2S1VU gI42dkUZO7OTaBEGGnKY2h2Uscj8TN8Z5/WbyrVVxSwGKk00SpohpPs+QIzd0KfuL3iF 9PnA== dd7mr7470860oeb.4.1412717590684; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:32:40 -0700 (PDT) References: <000001cfe274$cc51a460$64f4ed20$@com.au> From: I Erbs Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:32:40 -0700 To: John Rowe , Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] car and driver online Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry, The filters at work are causing issues. will resend tonight from home Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:22 PM, John Rowe wrote: > Hi Ira > Just got this email. Very strange! > I click on the link shown and it goes straight to a gmail account I have > for > a veteran race club of which I am secretary > ????? > Cheers > John Rowe. > Qld Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2014 5:08 AM > To: Ahealey help > Subject: [Healeys] car and driver online > > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en&shva=1#inbox/148ebff8e92979db > I can't view this at work, but it shows a pretty Healey on the cover > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) > (_________________________) _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 04:41:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F43B258077E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 04:41:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.153]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42D925805EC for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 04:36:11 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1412764759; bh=QibTOfqh+zfIVSka8KhjduJJOEvzk24LAA9bKFqjl+I=; b=o8pWN6Dtpk4BjBc1G2w0feOQd+xJX+gv/zeYlXNeNeEVaGCs5W51gPkoZixKPd9bJdFD4Un7DkGU88NoaCHyw+Pzz6pkme/HerXX1haA4bFHJTlf6h6Kc0Sf+y3vVlq1Vx8r/SbjLQymXVAenTCHccWItqa6dzA8Sgw1O0MuWfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; b=tN2WMeJsLnfDQ3taa7eOm0RqGYtpb14XwLFyYPYvf+z23W4SWxb7hRdNxR1IW3A83HTNvP+ugaRyaWC15XkEpm4Wl/HVTlzGH7JPsz5WfL/GsdO1G9SiTsy6DJcGWvdOQ+rOCIQCJbn7PdyEXR+L12oj0XNFmuQMpRNYkzQ/8w8=; Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2014 10:39:19 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.59] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2014 10:39:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2014 10:39:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412764759; bh=QibTOfqh+zfIVSka8KhjduJJOEvzk24LAA9bKFqjl+I=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Date:References:To:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=xf2KGGa/UoSFmgpxd4OzZwd1/2mHJZYohaNBJgwWYrtTujYtPC+KA39ysncmP7EJ+Cy1eNQwiE7pf2b68INRzE38vXaNY1QP6jJPenx4o3ZYLaQ3J93ntKERZE3bItX+UGR7lXIlfaqLrZkwkSIIB8whQKpnB8mXCNr126hnEc4= izpjkAL3N5_Cxn1rcGN2ahVdOCVL_24paV2ksp97fs5ZngRVU7T5j2sNzZ9p OKgkN23BpufFWDuXhOx_Wnh2FkSUhLIarhprsm84C7F.6yvxujKxMZlS5pHq p_2o1zz2qKvvNq29K8O1D9GwpBu_gj1SFVhSZFmpOzPlXKAo6j_OLgY2RoMv Wk__HykRuuV.ODJ.YE26Z6aWKrIiwpSUDV9dAfacSoPuzqmXLmjkoor0cNBm KFWDLXD7met77MBS_pA2WfU1d7SbmiFjV38nZk0yR1aLAnVKhkH92y_1uBUL N8PXcZgSTMK19WfqBGPBgEpKLLxoJ.wfytqfaAxqgkJfPCYB2FBgLVXqJg.E bzBQqrUqbU.TWATdG92b_nTxIkX9ErcKz3yECvPZ1ZOjBmOLjM81FGqusfRO aWw0Y2qvqcEL__oa6N.PZEvnMuff1vdUjIw6FfFkPoYDFPV2zzlB7StC9K2Z nHLSaQfYp61UTAZCRAm4Ri.z8SAHhLpB00XBN3gkXfTdaVnfP85JvYNDShAI mFn3fujjv7mIJxNzWN51xh6w9MNuwWOqk_JoSbxdgn1_vYp3RO5cevYta2lZ RMR0sUFDirURjgQWcXN5HKK.OSMyvsMTgQabVxBbjc6Jv.cWV8k5qS_8A1tB 9HRhw2s.ILE6ouAXHTDRsBNDQBY7NrmK7IWqeMRal77c- From: Mark Goodman Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 06:39:17 -0400 References: <1432a.99a.148b1fcdbb1.Webtop.0@cox.net> To: "Healeys@Autox. 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I have no idea about the condition. > http://www.auctionsolutionsinc.com/auction/239897/meineke-personal-real-prope rty-living-estate-auction/ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 19:33:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51A425853C5 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:33:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51432584946 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:32:25 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1412818533; bh=7PS2jvXocaX/Z4m/xSFonY9XMho9IkXJR7tqC6zJ1fI=; b=HCIfuatbRqi+NxZlQ3Ixyc5Rco8Jr1Z5up9qvQsSddSqbi1/jvYD4373ar/v+FYZNjVR1i5J2URj5dcpw+IL88G1Ue20XCIcMv5mynkRKSWk7Pb/H2cHLm1QAWHapwmMUGY/xVr4a12eyfGaJi8kbOAQgmaEoYKOZJqApn/Wjy8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=jCshiBALaZtrNgcXx744Nt8pCj/5XNr/++GlW9oocTUTd8WCCQenQwO8iZpxOY9PE8tLOza/zWJjbmKPNNzrghpvvbxQzrDmgkUvfcMgVh+Mcnaou/Rr3o7QmX5EOy0E+AWTL6KfDkEmw/5mgQbGRwwWf1sBeYK/+bguIekJLH4=; Received: from [66.196.81.165] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 01:35:33 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.241] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 01:35:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 01:35:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412818533; bh=7PS2jvXocaX/Z4m/xSFonY9XMho9IkXJR7tqC6zJ1fI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=EcGn7F45BjLnArVccAGF419LKNduNuweClaHYKE/UB52rJaiSvjgXXqKJdg5RqOUXn/SQc8Pwvu3yWyeRgExsUm5yxufctdY99Q+3eVvdlUrpZh2O6ZsHsXgH2Dzyh2f4eNPoFsBy4+RF+6wepk9Y5HdRSkU+iUcdp5SRK7BY34= CsYNCr7IUcwTjJlMupYup.xDSJM3vxgfx86bS5GPISwMEC6tL04Mdg_lijr6 FXY4xvf0g6y7EdldDi.aFmVFslh4wKGfaREncanuep2Tm4lTLcB7WUwGlYym dvlnRSkvke1qyX5vD4.mcm7hucEiWeo0glW_9aGzKowR8RaoQ8Zq7YbVyHX_ 961SuZlWilnsjMpBxcPJBp2CtMQA4.tli.F_iOajcI8I6u.fxO4.RwiyVMsj BVl3_Mq4kCLixQeT6gvD8pUlFpA.5OexUDa9.5Dv28EPhEGdnD1M9v23vlOw 4guDUaTMI4fpohh7IposRm.KP8O6nnlkCzL0hd3RVa95_sK3D4BB5UNO1KBf WLlUdZ6LyoOilkX6ZJzh9ZiqN5tOtkFrehfwSkRIoQhfg9QSiX_JfuPquBEJ RCsq6CVDFq1kgo37Qt4AfBs3k_LNljz.5u90JLqyysnlhX1dEcpwQrxCv03F UqyhQfj7oGze9a6NiHf91FvlrxLgPhsYN9aHlyHwGaFwWA3SWC0Qb From: "John Spaur" To: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 18:35:38 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/jYVMGmv6wcrHBS0GZtheeQTf0Cg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Now that my pipes are well sealed to the muffler most of the annoying popping sound is gone. Now I notice a slight popping when I decelerate. What would cause that? Does it indicate the carbs might be set a little rich? John Spaur '62 BT7 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 19:34:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2982585400 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:34:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.121]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9983A2584946 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:32:26 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1412818534; bh=T91Iw+zdPQ1VfcvNsO1Zi8/FWBF+pCVry7Jyiw+JlZ0=; b=CG7NYaO6hywXdcpOjYN8A/oG5PxCB2uxC9jLxN7Gk8+irpjKVFe6cSd2w82wNuSL2yIU1PIIX8pYBW+87j9JXRvZWQ/Ji9uY4gXmzb6bPAE+wGsnJPqwLVPDFvu+v0HGewfhj1Fv57e1mghL9Ttc3TRv3qxgaQtrPO+v/dcoIJo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=vuWqvwu1JR7/zPn2eUsCo2R3dy4AF/JGknYsIIg7LUFDUj8cL99f3uRnQZ2bTBoXz4Z9UyOnqZkaNvLXjq0soXwgxPtQluZKudgdwAcigbLxK7jdmZfqnRoTGCYRIk6APyqob0LlxAQ6Ke4IclxKboBw/dw2hZdHo+GCeb2i94A=; Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 01:35:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.241] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 01:35:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 01:35:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412818534; bh=T91Iw+zdPQ1VfcvNsO1Zi8/FWBF+pCVry7Jyiw+JlZ0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=pFEfZUTDMGQ8B90tWd/CFRklEkBOk6aaDl568apL+SLmr8k8rhdRExCjPDcFFKcDu74kvCGB+4gCvInAadzEmxNK5vsKguHu+UEer4kBniZh2T1Ykiu3kPJxswWH9+gzztNqqQYYXZZRrQZyZOiJzJ/Qq9+2OG69/CRZGxCnSX0= QLYfcsB0fr0tgvilnj9hQ.OY6tOGrmr30o12BKJT7gqCcXyuwQ7CwH831dHQ 5jM2xRRfDuUgQbBjP9UsirOk2PW5Im24F1bs5.ODfelX6WeCikpe7GeId6xK WGkwk3qZ8Cth1mh2fxoQhW922awN_CupyuAxElwp1NdC5P9N7jzxoZ_GViWf YLmxYE1Rhbx4h.fQLF9m.cB9f4WKFB_PtFeYaAMJiabbRdy_0OXA8gODEX0e OiHU8Ry8zPqIa9letmki.hGWHlZX_zSFKBQGvZCuouZcpyKBaDMjZ7xAyabq POSjcMxH34Cmo_3YeBtJHOYnVye_dC36NIYKyIBZSDP1n1eSi_OIRRjG8ojb UqM43pR8VYz_toI1cJfsPJ138R53wvUtHV_AZr9_xwx5Vxtoh.B0W.dwHn_r THfSJlTWfetwEuU0hWXP.4hVBOjT_GyzJj1D9FlpatrcNb1I6tfrFXlTqW1j dBYOO_arfizQgovzKRkm1zp2K3vOM8D.sI099FHdYIEJZI7f1PnQakg-- From: "John Spaur" To: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 18:35:38 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/jYNzFOnBsiCSWQ9+G7UYu/omqPw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] Muffler seal - results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to everyone that responded about what to use to seal the pipes attaching to each side of the muffler. I used Permatex Muffler and Tail Pipe Sealer. It is made from sodium silicate. I think Hults is the same product but they list the ingredients differently. It dries very hard but is very brittle. I had to redo one joint and I was worried about how difficult it would be to separate the pipes but it was not hard at all. However, it dries quickly so you don't have a lot of working time when assembling the parts. The directions say to wet the parts with water. Use water sparingly. Also, clean the parts before it dries because it is hard to remove. John Spaur San Jose _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 20:53:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEF825854B8 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 20:53:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com (mail-oi0-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406A9258543E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 20:53:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id u20so762214oif.14 for ; Wed, 08 Oct 2014 19:56:19 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=w10gs16nLYj/RITbtR9DOQFJLF5X691P+RNHV0Gk3gY=; b=JcHLjxfFBC9ej7+Vbez+uG0THsyfYSVxMbPnfE7t9nW+X1TroZ2DTOp/hUR47c3JFC p1+6ar/XGTPodMuJgqU1vTevg0Z9kM04gdyt8DBfqRAh/eToDzLZ05d0H5yc3RHU78NP LY7w8+uawom7W3p7Hsnw9wYk+D+yCz4Nv+3+5N1B89TR550mPp7jYQ2wTbHQeJu6CcAJ MDRJ9NBHLMm2DlxJfVR5dsmsvach0H9Am/iw0c6WmCngV8ibSGF5m37aeQyk/H2lHyqd qmAE1qMpFXMb61zw16wl9li9+Y0C3yMZl3O2QbkAEUqIYIWa+12ferxoRL0nLB/RdZhy oDtQ== a4mr17866913oek.45.1412823379299; Wed, 08 Oct 2014 19:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:55:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <007a01cfe361$554c9990$ffe5ccb0$@sbcglobal.net> From: I Erbs Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:55:49 -0700 To: John Spaur Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net could be a bit to much advance on the timing Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:35 PM, John Spaur wrote: > Now that my pipes are well sealed to the muffler most of the annoying > popping sound is gone. > > > > Now I notice a slight popping when I decelerate. What would cause that? > Does > it indicate the carbs might be set a little rich? > > > > John Spaur > > '62 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 01:25:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0165125852FF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 01:25:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep42.mx.upcmail.net (fep42.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B62E258443C for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 01:24:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe42-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141009072750.RMZW11119.viepfeppe42-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 09:27:50 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 0vTq1p0040Hh4wo01vTq9i; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 09:27:50 +0200 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 09:27:49 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <007a01cfe361$554c9990$ffe5ccb0$@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net It indicates it is spot on. If you drive in th mountains it is a glorious sound. I love it. Kees Oudesluijs John Spaur schreef op 9-10-2014 3:35: > Now that my pipes are well sealed to the muffler most of the annoying > popping sound is gone. > > > > Now I notice a slight popping when I decelerate. What would cause that? Does > it indicate the carbs might be set a little rich? > > > > John Spaur > > '62 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4037/8350 - datum van uitgifte: 10/08/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 08:09:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E66F258533A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:09:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f169.google.com (mail-ig0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C812580A1A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f169.google.com with SMTP id uq10so3339343igb.4 for ; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 07:07:32 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=80FvnbWkUFercvMTsHGUf+0bnb8Bogn9eu4jvrkKqsY=; b=yls0+32wEgYa99OOmIWuABYhZTY1t4B63C+2XNYf6+K4oeOftU/1g5moQM+fLbjWTX wQzkrzP5erCr/n91vhpZ229qL2Mk0SEgX217edBo9Glrf2sFO8elT49FnvCnCfKOylpI kSh9oTFfKN7K01WPUt+2XKkV55VGkNAyW/LKHICCxGftbJ/Ps4iULXDmKdkBbjMhJAdA 9li9MgypFfeiXV0Dy2dFiY5cHaJ+px/HXl3wk3doR2ZVNJo3yRYT1OASki0VivrHW+uo 2dSQNtBaZlZSXqrz/o/Fsk5wnT0U88X4Q7zYaJmsZ6rJNzaseZKDYjUS5F/NZ6yJ5FLT 9eIA== j10mr8657236icy.2.1412863652108; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 07:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.83.196 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 07:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:07:32 -0400 From: Burt Weiner To: Austin Healey Subject: [Healeys] British cars in Wilmington NC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net All, My wife and I have finally made the move from Massachusetts to Supply NC. Back when I was still on Comcast, I had asked about repair shops, clubs, etc. and someone mentioned a British car club in Wilmington NC that got together maybe monthly (?). Now I'm an ATMC customer without any of my archived messages so forgive the re-ask. By the way, I followed the advice of several of you that led me to Hendrix Wire Wheel - a good choice! Cheers Burt _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 08:23:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029032585670 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from visioncenterpc.com (cbl-static-80-009.machlink.com [69.49.80.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5413425855DD for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:18:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 10.50.10.11 ([10.50.10.11]) by server.visioncenter.local ([10.50.10.11]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 14:20:48 +0000 From: "Chris Scholz" thread-topic: 100-6 bn4 restoration thread-index: Ac/jzDi8SbHidLMbSVWBluZUakFjRA== Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 09:21:22 -0500 To: "AustinHealey List" Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 bn4 restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Silly question- I am taking apart the 100-6 and have a question about the plywood interior side panel (kick panel?) next to the rear seats. It appears to be glued to the door frame. I see no bolts or fasteners. Is this correct and how do you remove it without damaging the panel? Second, I have many little screws that are Phillips head, holding the metal trim pieces in the door opening. These screws were stripped by the last owner. I plan on using a tiny drill bit to drill a small hole in each and then try to use an EZ out on them. Any other ideas? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 09:39:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B363B25856D4 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 09:39:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f53.google.com (mail-oi0-f53.google.com [209.85.218.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D552585683 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 09:34:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f53.google.com with SMTP id v63so3312594oia.26 for ; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:38:00 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Os/AoRlvvM7IntIZMCT3WM/fux2JRiTvEr4B4cwevoE=; b=wCAUFUwe/zr+xFhT2q1+us6oql+Daud9PVAXNKv1UoWWx6kZf3j26/3CRmakQdg5cU z3/Pr3E97EzXqi4/xfCX8wcKyOpRKlvyTN48lL9vHLfJd6V3T0bDS9nhLXpobqxn1F4f vDAyUuqswcoQILxNt/Eso2v3sMczjyKSh5S812abM64dz+iXD0Gy1WxYL2Sz5KoyTwj/ URg5eDJAEvWQWs+XAYQe+dYJT+s73YAAcs6liwaHUv1oK+0hyNjM97Y5qaUz7UfsmAHH A3GjkFGFIMI+f7ToFzt69s2YNpByLsYTPBzEMQiOXkUxcL45JQfdP1fnjsy2f8LiMxGg nPFw== j1mr23975155oes.69.1412869080568; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:37:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <60F5D3A4-F1ED-445E-9360-263AE4D93BE9@visioncenterpc.com> From: I Erbs Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:37:29 -0700 To: Chris Scholz Cc: AustinHealey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 bn4 restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The wood pieces are glued to a thicker strip of wood,and then wrapped in vinyl, that is in turn screwed to the striker panel. You may need to remove the furflex and weather stripping to see the screw heads on the flange. They are wood screws with phillips heads. I can email you photos of the screw locations if you want them? Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Chris Scholz wrote: > Silly question- I am taking apart the 100-6 and have a question about the > plywood interior side panel (kick panel?) next to the rear seats. It > appears > to be glued to the door frame. I see no bolts or fasteners. Is this correct > and how do you remove it without damaging the panel? > > Second, I have many little screws that are Phillips head, holding the metal > trim pieces in the door opening. These screws were stripped by the last > owner. > I plan on using a tiny drill bit to drill a small hole in each and then > try to > use an EZ out on them. Any other ideas? Thanks. > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 12:41:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8760258598E for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:41:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547A22580997 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:31:16 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1412879664; bh=FuJGXgJh9Trng2+maN2WJL7ME6pJwZxn6Ej+GpR4188=; b=aig0Q+DdXfN8DPnPXh9FisSqItv0/B+ygSHnhmPI1DC8n8bPWvvCNFQ6OGw1/YbHE6CG+K6+hsTGB3Zimuq/eJTYRbFXvwsQKQteL51hx2zgZHKpHiJYaWQm9OQXY4A4aW3raxLn+u+BfL2NXCWj/CmJr5W2VMZv0TgffeqshHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=xtr8DV0WoMSoSrMqlWxg4OZgeToOwCB92VvgnDUDEkj3WiRvBQc6mrW/YxsNl8o2L/u4ybKCBn2Sfw2ZAW/MYVS244O/6YDqTVvPznXG0RzKYUNG6qxp9NcfdJ5AMlqz3Oj22GB16vOF8/uSKSVUUJUSakZK0tMGtF02+aEfn44=; Received: from [216.39.60.168] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 18:34:24 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.98] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 18:34:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 18:34:24 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412879664; bh=FuJGXgJh9Trng2+maN2WJL7ME6pJwZxn6Ej+GpR4188=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=fQ/F0D5Br+R4vsuZ0/BuOSqCQdr4JWdm9r6RPHQWP6rlFi/RgOP2+FSD1NADUyKdfLzSyPGVHteT9ejDFMTDD3igR7kWOoy5sxuRKxVy2Rc2qaoou5Q5P5W26vlT+f0P8EGPoVa6CiLajDwGFNQMHwzHVrGs1uDHaT/emmd3GZc= HZ8SSMgIdK.wY9D3hoY34OI0E_ejjQd7QHt7xa_xjBJ4Xsr6eMUMh.qZPLHC ic_tW9.2Yj3D_iZsvKVs7ZncbpBxf3CQomYXpoCmxKSHu4wKTANrDZfd3Nhh UodR43ukRoK6_RXey5wx7NAPYsw0B53Vp9Iz7ipKnwamivooCxBSZWoFKwhO 8xug2TEPMZdWMHMQfklUH8kPq2unB.mtn1wbmHXHjtBsg0eSa_eRlddExGUQ UjE_nNqv4OyKzom7tBy2KthYjn1MyzlQ1VXila0Nc3s8Is7u5YeZR8R3TP4I s036lz.oVd8FBWA3mS6I4UmTrpNq.0lk3mfLhNLIUXUTd3X6z3eXMeUXn_ny OJEN0XNkgaCYznszcVFV0hNVfNFuCt4BB_OLReRnSk6Mk_pVECs1_5jnSU4. 7Xkbwzn8Aa7vgx4sSITFMMxt5KdCaFO93SVuzweLmxRtd9YKkXvWrJ8TGwuR a6ibbLnxcKZ_Gf8ceuCQgyHxs_SIv.98CiYF3THPFN1OnNiib.zEQuv41PUt pU4u09Zq_py5Y7jkUcWjJQIkrwV1V61sANn9CqudDmT.gZ6hWY58vzWk- From: "John Spaur" To: "'Chris Scholz'" , "'AustinHealey List'" References: <60F5D3A4-F1ED-445E-9360-263AE4D93BE9@visioncenterpc.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 11:34:29 -0700 Thread-Index: AQHm26J9sJe3LVDfnvUVsrI0XOibYpv6JCCg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 bn4 restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net If they don't come out drill out the head or try and break them off. You can use a vice grip to turn them out or grind them down. I presume you will be installing new cover plates which need to be drilled for the screw and you can drill a new hole in the chassis. Source new screws from a local fastener supplier (Olander Company if there is one in our town http://www.olander.com/). I was not happy with the Moss screws because the head stripped easily. Be sure to find the correct sized screw driver (00 I think) because it will be much easier. John Spaur '62 BT7 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 13:42:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C63C258540B for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 13:42:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C6725807F5 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 13:39:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.24.228.133] ([98.24.228.133:57652] helo=KeithPC) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id D4/CB-23176-045E6345; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 19:42:56 +0000 From: "BJ8Healeys" To: "'Austin Healey'" References: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 15:42:43 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/jyyGuVljCpJo5QO61AWo4mhW06wALBd0Q Content-Language: en-us a=MGGFJy2pHiY+kO9Gui1ZQQ==:117 a=MGGFJy2pHiY+kO9Gui1ZQQ==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Wdv2atrMAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=dcEN7SMPNpKFkXQQqNQA:9 a=G1Om4ymD868kmGxK:21 a=BbNAzwk5IHtcUxqZ:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Subject: Re: [Healeys] British cars in Wilmington NC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Burt, and welcome to the South! My wife and I had lunch in Supply last week on our way to Myrtle Beach in TARHEELY for BritFest. The Wilmington club is the British Motor Club of The Cape Fear (http://www.bmccf.org/). Come to their annual car show "Brits at the Beach" at the park in Wrightsville Beach this Saturday. Look for my yellow/black BJ8 so we can meet in person. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Burt Weiner Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:08 AM To: Austin Healey Subject: [Healeys] British cars in Wilmington NC All, My wife and I have finally made the move from Massachusetts to Supply NC. Back when I was still on Comcast, I had asked about repair shops, clubs, etc. and someone mentioned a British car club in Wilmington NC that got together maybe monthly (?). Now I'm an ATMC customer without any of my archived messages so forgive the re-ask. By the way, I followed the advice of several of you that led me to Hendrix Wire Wheel - a good choice! Cheers Burt _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 16:13:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5532580BDD for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:13:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFD82580930 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:03:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 22:06:40 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.231] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 22:06:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2014 22:06:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 76932 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2014 22:06:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412892400; bh=TJ5KNVxMEDHhWLi8blOmxrJkXFD5LDEHJmgkADYuE4I=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zxFw+zyw8GBBqOdgKuwrE9gxDXO0Rtb61rU3LcefSdH32XXMY+94PUYvDDCuhetPPxptevOKrMf26Aw7AALWt5FayHFEyJmmNplWoaXLz04ctHJqS+lpFS4cnWBr/uYCqP1LgtIaOwKnHX5g6GPTO+0GuyfyMavLTPrRRpEwXos= GGtjZeI9_76QTmEvPOej__NnyAy54x5Oa5RQwX3FHEiQlo6zKLS1TpCEcoi3 be8j.GaZuoi6tMV7MEu64lhDQpBsnBYMf2rT69mTgcTVVsSuZ62tEsjFjpGZ EUwLQGib00P49ppCT5jMKIuCnLQA73fJbnzq32zHjG.2rbQ2ZBoc_QV6IGws QYcNTEc17VgsYlDsR1utZvsy3wDA3ebqH4YxECcuBoiGQNlfQnO7a2_OrKDm FcBkYPW3KKC9heuxmVW.En_DRU5MLUPVkkAFGD3hh4lrvRSPcuvAoUQUxu77 3wjgQFF58zaYgmcrKeL.pN9EsmLbrHGjd4LCnIZLdc.9j.D3OC8kBB9C2pVM wL.hu6egWVyJIGRsYWOUClPXtLgWSH73wKdD2arAo7SSeH8TZCku6pxmiooR 1MnkBbSwFapTOSVvYa6oBHB8GptjEFHTERYlJ5bs1_YkdpTOqD70D270ZwnQ NAyh9fCl.2IIPpH0bFksYVSmGAr4hxahdijihF3MOLTYNkPqvNCSE6orGbVJ LB9u4x1O1jTURyLlQGjVoIjxBfnb70xhkq6cFEm8paTy2QpdiYm6j8pxnaj2 yoXaQgQyAu9A- Received: from [99.101.224.218] by web185004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 15:06:40 PDT QmVzdCBtb3ZlIHlvdSBtYWRlIHdhcyB0byBsZWF2ZSBUYXhhY2h1c2V0dHMgdG8gYWxtb3N0IGFueXdoZXJlLiAgSSBsZWZ0IGluIDE5NzAgYW5kIG9ubHkgdmlzaXQgZXZlcnkgMTAgeWVhcnMgb3Igc28uICBObyBJIGxpdmUgaW4gVGhlIHBlb3BsZSdzIERlbW9jcmF0aWMgUmVwdWJsaWMgb2YgS2FsaWZvcm5pYSBhbmQgY2FuJ3Qgd2FpdCB0byByZXRpcmUgaW4gdHdvIGFuZCBhIGhhbGYgeWVhcnMgc28gSSBjYW4gbW92ZSB0byBOZXZhZGEgb3IgQXJpem9uYS4KTWlrZSBNYWNMZWFuCjU2IEJOMgo2MCBBTjUBMAEBAQE- References: <002001cfe3f9$322681e0$967385a0$@rr.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 15:06:40 -0700 From: Michael MacLean To: BJ8Healeys , 'Austin Healey' Subject: Re: [Healeys] British cars in Wilmington NC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Best move you made was to leave Taxachusetts to almost anywhere. I left in 1970 and only visit every 10 years or so. No I live in The people's Democratic Republic of Kalifornia and can't wait to retire in two and a half years so I can move to Nevada or Arizona. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 On Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:42 PM, BJ8Healeys wrote: > > >Hi, Burt, and welcome to the South! >My wife and I had lunch in Supply last week on our way to Myrtle Beach in >TARHEELY for BritFest. > >The Wilmington club is the British Motor Club of The Cape Fear >(http://www.bmccf.org/). Come to their annual car show "Brits at the Beach" >at the park in Wrightsville Beach this Saturday. Look for my yellow/black >BJ8 so we can meet in person. > >Steve Byers >HBJ8L/36666 >BJ8 Registry >AHCA Delegate at Large >Havelock, NC USA > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Burt >Weiner >Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:08 AM >To: Austin Healey >Subject: [Healeys] British cars in Wilmington NC > >All, > >My wife and I have finally made the move from Massachusetts to Supply NC. >Back when I was still on Comcast, I had asked about repair shops, clubs, >etc. and someone mentioned a British car club in Wilmington NC that got >together maybe monthly (?). Now I'm an ATMC customer without any of my >archived messages so forgive the re-ask. > >By the way, I followed the advice of several of you that led me to Hendrix >Wire Wheel - a good choice! > >Cheers > >Burt >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Healeys@autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike@att.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 18:46:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6FC258443B for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 18:46:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from outbound.myeasyfilter.com (outbound.myeasyfilter.com [216.55.99.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B66925807E8 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 18:46:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (outbound.myeasyfilter.com [216.55.99.208]) by outbound.myeasyfilter.com (OutboundFilter) with ESMTP id DDA772343DAD for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 20:49:19 -0400 (EDT) outbound.myeasyfilter.com Received: from outbound.myeasyfilter.com ([216.55.99.208]) by localhost (outbound.myeasyfilter.com [216.55.99.208]) (outbound, port 10024) with ESMTP id dOibP6IcfZZq for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 20:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usol.com (hades.usol.com [204.232.84.4]) by outbound.myeasyfilter.com (OutboundFilter) with ESMTP id 9E4F92343DBF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 20:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop3.usol.com ([204.232.84.6] helo=webmail.usol.com) by usol.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XcOOT-0004Hd-SG for healeys@autox.team.net; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:49:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:49:17 -0400 From: ggilliam@usol.com To: Healeys User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 on BAT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net A BJ8 is featured in the current auction selection on Bring A Trailer... http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-austin-healey-mark-iii-bj8/ Gordy Longbridge BN4 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 19:30:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C082584487 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 19:30:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6486A2580973 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 19:18:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170019pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0ND7008UBFSBG940@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for healeys@autox.team.net; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:21:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 100.4.77.131 ([100.4.77.131]) by vms170019 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:21:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:21:47 -0500 (CDT) From: llennep@verizon.net To: coudesluijs@chello.nl, healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I have this same exhaust sound with the BN7. I love to hear the rumble as the car decelerates!!!! Almost as nice a sound as the sound of revving up through the gears!!!! Keith Baby Car, Patches On 10/09/14, Oudesluys wrote: It indicates it is spot on. If you drive in th mountains it is a glorious sound. I love it. Kees Oudesluijs John Spaur schreef op 9-10-2014 3:35: > Now that my pipes are well sealed to the muffler most of the annoying > popping sound is gone. > > > > Now I notice a slight popping when I decelerate. What would cause that? Does > it indicate the carbs might be set a little rich? > > > > John Spaur > > '62 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4037/8350 - datum van uitgifte: 10/08/14 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 20:34:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF3725844F7 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 20:34:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from server278.com (server278.com [64.14.68.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153F9258043B for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 20:34:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 3347 invoked by uid 2007); 10 Oct 2014 02:37:12 -0000 From: To: =?iso-8859-1?B?aGVhbGV5c0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldA==?= Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 02:37:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?exhaust_popping?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net usually the popping sound comes when the carbs are a little lean. try richening a flat or two or a half turn on the screw. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 10 02:19:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A127D25850D9 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 02:19:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep42.mx.upcmail.net (fep42.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9504D258049A for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 02:19:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe42-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141010082235.TGEU11119.viepfeppe42-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:22:35 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 1LNb1p00S0Hh4wo01LNbDo; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:22:35 +0200 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:22:34 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <20141010023712.3344.qmail@server278.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The popping often happens on side draft carbs, no idea why. I have Dell'orto's on my car, running rather rich, and it pops gloriously on the overrun. Listen to any 60's/70's Alfa Romeo, they all do it. If they don't there is something wrong. The same for most AH's and MG's although it is less pronounced than with the Alfa's Kees Oudesluijs healeymanjim@hansencc.net schreef op 10-10-2014 4:37: > usually the popping sound comes when the carbs are a little lean. try richening a flat or two or a half turn on the screw. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8354 - datum van uitgifte: 10/09/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 10 07:08:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21882584B33 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 07:08:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9BB258086C for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 07:07:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.232]) by resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 1RAo1p001516pyw01RAqfL; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:10:50 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([98.207.131.183]) by resomta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 1RAp1p00C3xa1La01RApCq; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:10:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 06:10:45 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Oudesluys , healeys@autox.team.net References: <20141010023712.3344.qmail@server278.com> <5437974A.3070704@chello.nl> s=q20140121; t=1412946650; bh=8O7a5+ByRpdESWhv5zLdtUp0Mp0btZxbmWkcJALqXs8=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=sHJKMjnR7dszTmoafRVJOpyV7TKSra0eHaGs5Dlw/xczSoeCBT2U8CU+7VRZ41GoT Y6Lpcuig67yFhAt8lb4sxo4o+9XbYS404+MUejLTW9oEL4kcT2TE32w9VCu1c6ls0y VIOGfiIcYsDwGsodq1cE0Vi5hjjG6Te0yZbDTR4EpdDl1Wov9NTXbXAavXjkQNJw7i BtXmhU6WtXJp1EIRC3GiL0CnN7XjDjM4MEh1ry4yEyY4+qozMvj+ZVcD47zX3eZnPI VrghLrnkEXN21UmOMNj+1M/y4KvQA/q8W1+XWqPvFoJm2plEApRolKWIYTkNdn+UFG f7S9scF1nIgAg== Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net AFAIK, the 'popping' can only be one thing: small explosions in the exhaust system. There can only be an explosion if there are three things: a combustible substance, an ignition source and oxygen (actual explosives provide their own oxygen, usually from oxides of nitrogen). So, it follows there must be unburned fuel in the exhaust (duh), some oxygen--from air, this is why exhaust leaks contribute--and an ignition source (heat or hot spots in the system). I suspect--don't know for a fact--the unburned fuel comes from the high vacuum in the intake system with closed throttles, which draws fuel from the jets even with the pistons down and the needles all but closing off the 'annular ring' between the needle and the jet opening. At times, my BJ8 has not popped on decel/downhill/etc. with different exhaust systems. Don't know why, I've kept pretty much the jet/mixture setting as long as I've had the car (31 years). Currently, I'm using an exhaust cobbled together from Ansa pipes with Heartthrob mufflers (from good ol' JC Whitney; I call it 'Frankenmuffler'). It pops a lot, including some pretty loud bangs with closed throttles going downhill. I put an 'H' pipe between the pipes fore the front mufflers; suspect that contributes but danged if I know why. Bob On 10/10/2014 1:22 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > The popping often happens on side draft carbs, no idea why. I have Dell'orto's on my car, running rather rich, and it > pops gloriously on the overrun. > Listen to any 60's/70's Alfa Romeo, they all do it. If they don't there is something wrong. The same for most AH's and > MG's although it is less pronounced than with the Alfa's > > Kees Oudesluijs > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 10 09:35:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A332584F7E for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:35:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8542584C31 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:34:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id y10so4158788wgg.15 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:37:36 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XMcfSOjjR2JNaV4GXNi/veNxVCEv6NCdT/dHv2foZ08=; b=WXMCFM6qBcOJtgoCMXDX+5knbhM3FnvQtN/vkdbajIOOCLHS/n9ccqiOHsk+m7q1AO NEZREGtgrROonZZ4slEGIYzdJFsPCnmDNHhgdzif4sxp6vy1gPOtycnYjWmU7rU8D936 aSTqNKvJKRSuiEUL4xNooA5ptpXRE3OT7QOVZ5eGysndhXTqgE4WZqpr5gUXpSa6hoyZ ycyi71RD5JPjUIQ8uVHjGZy9Amqk6JPfwGTMh6MwByNqjXc/jFfNpOfqX6E9Oo5l2ucJ On44YiimewU0tpqh6b6A0A9PI0d2F/7y5shrK4RGkABPUtozGzXesPaM5tmBv88InkoA lhdw== ex5mr5762187wid.38.1412955456497; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.77.175 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:37:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <20141010023712.3344.qmail@server278.com> <5437974A.3070704@chello.nl> <5437DAD5.7020406@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:37:36 -0400 From: HealeyRick To: Bob Spidell Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I think a low restriction exhaust with less back pressure is more likely to pop as well as a car with a hotter camshaft. My bugeye has long center branch headers, a fast road camshaft and what BMC called their "competition muffler" and sounds just like the bugeye racers I recall from Lime Rock. It's like a bowl of Rice Krispies with all the snaps, crackles and pops. And the Nasty Boy? Really low restriction exhaust and hotter cam. Sounds gorgeous on the overrun. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > > At times, my BJ8 has not popped on decel/downhill/etc. with different > exhaust systems. Don't know why, I've kept pretty much the jet/mixture > setting as long as I've had the car (31 years). Currently, I'm using an > exhaust cobbled together from Ansa pipes with Heartthrob mufflers (from > good ol' JC Whitney; I call it 'Frankenmuffler'). It pops a lot, including > some pretty loud bangs with closed throttles going downhill. I put an 'H' > pipe between the pipes fore the front mufflers; suspect that contributes > but danged if I know why. > > Bob _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 10 12:16:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6187025852A8 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:16:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1AC2585159 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:14:53 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=pIIkTkqarGAsyW1GfSE+wTYmNkHBkkCclPztvI7YCom6evmk4mTKw6v/GyuDE2NX; h=Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [73.189.12.222] (helo=LeonardPCPC) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1XcelO-0007dU-6o for healeys@autox.team.net; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:18:02 -0400 From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" To: "AH Mail List" References: <20141010023712.3344.qmail@server278.com> <5437974A.3070704@chello.nl> <5437DAD5.7020406@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:17:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net When I acquired my BJ8 back in 1970, a previous owner, there were two, had removed the two resonators across the rear of the car. The backfiring on deceleration was quite annoying to my copilot/navigator especially when descending hills in a lower gear. I wasn't that fond of it either. I reinstalled resonators and the popping went away. No other changes were made as far as I can recall. She and I were quite content going down hill after that (in the Healey, not the marriage). (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ***199,380 miles (recalculated 10/06/2014)*** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Oudesluys" ; Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 6:10 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping > > > ...............At times, my BJ8 has not popped on decel/downhill/etc. with > different exhaust systems. Don't know why, I've kept pretty much the > jet/mixture setting as long as I've had the car (31 years)............. > > Bob _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 01:16:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678162584682 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 01:16:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3683D2580470 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 01:13:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id w7so4212159lbi.23 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 00:16:29 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BqaVnsijKuIqg0VgdPFVGof4e0C4l1U4ZgyeCcHEx+w=; b=vzVqHY0Q+RSm9Vb7kBzHX0q2QMmlbugxPxMypDch3JPkzvYS6HRTcTQWFhtogXLkCr bPMxrZtJQmkKqqzYjalZz0lnfbCvIuLAvZvxMlpb+nHnGDVAfl0WiTe9tG956q6S3evC /kH59ONMTihTxzDU2+qLfdAsM1+aTUKLZHyaIDvYGB81GR59ZN3+/ORswpy3UUhglvAJ hsp5+3j0j+fZDMinxNZgsCrZpyfhUBpRNZhz8UmVCNWZByG230pjK9D7ipX+U2qP9FG4 wIe09cvxblaSSiK0q9IzsZVUjJ0pJYOpkQqRHIJH1+MHIvanl60g+uv3RMZ4aIgWhyC8 dgOg== ao2mr9642226lac.78.1413011789530; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 00:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.197.6 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 00:16:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <20141010023712.3344.qmail@server278.com> <5437974A.3070704@chello.nl> <5437DAD5.7020406@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 08:16:29 +0100 From: Derek Job To: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" Cc: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The popping on overrun, as explained by Bob, is due to excess fuel burning in the exhaust pipe. This is very common on cars with higher performance engines, particularly hotter cams. My cam is 300 degree duration which means big overlaps between intake and exhaust valves. When you suddenly come off the throttle, excess fuel goes straight out of the exhaust ports, then ignites on the hot exhaust. My car does this all the time. Its the same reason that you see flames coming from some high performance race cars. We even had some flames at last weeks Big Healey Invitational race at Castle Coombe. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Len and/or Marge Hartnett < thehartnetts@earthlink.net> wrote: > When I acquired my BJ8 back in 1970, a previous owner, there were two, had > removed the two resonators across the rear of the car. The backfiring on > deceleration was quite annoying to my copilot/navigator especially when > descending hills in a lower gear. I wasn't that fond of it either. I > reinstalled resonators and the popping went away. No other changes were > made as far as I can recall. She and I were quite content going down hill > after that (in the Healey, not the marriage). > > (The Other) Len > Fairfield, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > ***199,380 miles (recalculated 10/06/2014)*** > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spidell" > To: "Oudesluys" ; > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 6:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping > > > > >> ...............At times, my BJ8 has not popped on decel/downhill/etc. >> with different exhaust systems. Don't know why, I've kept pretty much the >> jet/mixture setting as long as I've had the car (31 years)............. > >> Bob >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/healeys/derek.c.job@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 14:53:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F126B258042C for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 14:53:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1A72580331 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 14:52:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141011205603.QKEP5235.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:56:03 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([72.199.143.187]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id 1ww21p00F42oLaG01ww2fu; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:56:02 -0400 a=Cp/HKiBKVVgTG1NucgQ4xQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=mnvhk-stF1KPNqpj4BUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=--5jsS6pFzsA:10 a=WkJeudWfcw0A:10 a=cS-WER56OOIA:10 a=Cp/HKiBKVVgTG1NucgQ4xQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=lgalper1@cox.net From: Lou G Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:55:58 -0700 To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net My 100 pops when it's cold. Std cam. Low mileage engine. Sounds cool -- will the muffler blow apart from stress someday? Lou Bn1 San Diego Sent from my 'Healey' Phone _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 15:17:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68292258086C for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDC1258042C for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:14:22 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=qKkQ4V7oljipoAYHss2gRI1w87MoY6rAb9A6wjKTwHooJtcUNZNo0Kplzb9JYlhV; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.47.164.184] (helo=Dell660) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd42d-0004OM-Iy; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 17:17:31 -0400 From: "Ron Fine" To: "Lou G" , References: Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 14:17:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net When I was 17 years old and in the army, training at Fort Ord, CA as a truck driver, someone showed me how to make a lot of noise. Driving a big truck downhill, coasting, just flip the ignition switch off and on again. I blew apart a muffler once with that trick. It was hard explaining what happened to my sergeant. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Lou G Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:55 PM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping My 100 pops when it's cold. Std cam. Low mileage engine. Sounds cool -- will the muffler blow apart from stress someday? Lou Bn1 San Diego Sent from my 'Healey' Phone Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ronfineesq@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 15:28:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9592580877 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:28:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com (nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.189.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA692580458 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:27:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nschwcmgw08p ([61.9.190.168]) by nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20141011213044.RXWB17863.nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw08p>; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:30:44 +0000 Received: from JohnPC ([149.135.45.115]) by nschwcmgw08p with BigPond Outbound id 1xWj1p00P2V67h901xWjrB; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:30:44 +0000 a=E/jZ7ouY8I8mjyjxMq8N0A==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XFya8U7wAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=m9HmqVSBIou173_QOMgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Qx7PgifRjx8OM2Yg:21 a=wmk7pmDqfswXF70B:21 a=E/jZ7ouY8I8mjyjxMq8N0A==:117 From: "John Rowe" To: "'Ron Fine'" , "'Lou G'" , References: <8B838F73E6CA4E09BFCC02313A6479EC@Dell660> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 07:30:40 +1000 Thread-Index: Ac/lmUUnckyrm4syQMiud0yZbvFdawAAR2bA Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net That trick used to work well back in the 60's when the cars and engines were cheap to buy John Rowe Qld. Australia BN1 BT7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Sunday, 12 October 2014 7:18 AM To: Lou G; healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping When I was 17 years old and in the army, training at Fort Ord, CA as a truck driver, someone showed me how to make a lot of noise. Driving a big truck downhill, coasting, just flip the ignition switch off and on again. I blew apart a muffler once with that trick. It was hard explaining what happened to my sergeant. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Lou G Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:55 PM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping My 100 pops when it's cold. Std cam. Low mileage engine. Sounds cool -- will the muffler blow apart from stress someday? Lou Bn1 San Diego _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 20:35:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341AA25809A9 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 20:35:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9050E2580458 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 20:30:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.100]) by resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 22a31p0052AWL2D012a3mv; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 02:34:03 +0000 Received: from [10.180.220.46] ([63.197.105.179]) by resomta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 22Zq1p00B3sFRxK012Zsmd; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 02:34:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:33:45 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Ron Fine , Lou G , healeys@autox.team.net References: <8B838F73E6CA4E09BFCC02313A6479EC@Dell660> s=q20140121; t=1413081243; bh=ksR4A8BnOVlYff5hz6ayu9C5J+wRLdEMv5m8CK3vhOY=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=oFEP8jMKc1ftaGzLFqZh1Khag9LUbXqa4kVCe4xrp3fzygY9i7MpWJ2hOTKmULwBG 2vFTOccYvSw20XSifhyh8QfIBwwfe99qOIkIp1dpzFDplEQQv8As5e0POIFjFkpG7Z 9RClTKPbE4agE4QozzqyZ+Pjut6ZHwEpA8KpB55CCBGgTT4zTG9GUS6ecqYxJEv3Wn P4tGiMpbPHFU2QJCBrKKJyeu3P+txLgCvQ3PVWBF0GXsvoM/1EfDp7KIE4ml4pBqha Ta5Fi6PsAziWDERYQeoosPC1yA3bpW2egUNoxOPpPH3HZkveBMuDgrV2MCm9QllsGQ lEdFg7DYojBaw== Subject: Re: [Healeys] exhaust popping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Similar to what happens when doing a 'mag check' in a light piston airplane. In switching from one magneto to another, sometimes you accidentally turn both off, and a loud backfire often occurs. If it's bad enough an engine shutdown and inspection of the exhaust system is in order. On another note, didn't some other British cars--old MGs maybe--have an 'overrun' valve to prevent such backfiring/popping? I presume the idea is to have the high vacuum open an alternate air source to dilute the mixture. Bob On 10/11/2014 2:17 PM, Ron Fine wrote: > When I was 17 years old and in the army, training at Fort Ord, CA as a truck driver, someone showed me how to make a > lot of noise. Driving a big truck downhill, coasting, just flip the ignition switch off and on again. I blew apart a > muffler once with that trick. It was hard explaining what happened to my sergeant. > > Ron > > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 13:22:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0671C2584881 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:22:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail02.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 99FE52580870 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:22:28 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1413141938; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=K28vFLdjjZvxyATuHpsnoEtSegj8qzGIeOf/Udl7CV/hiYTbnvgynz3mghIxs2sMt 67JIt3JmlAtDSocr0uI+GqpfdEtdRvynurvvK/7EbYyJFXtGJWomPdmYQcX5oRxxvr +UypuDjBhxMk57wRdIDtbwQ7S5ZrCrgFSoqqXwdo= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (mailpop09.dca.untd.com [10.171.45.29]) by smtpout04.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABLDXXPQAHU8KMA for (sender ); Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:25:34 -0700 (PDT) To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 15:24:41 -0400 From: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keith Edwards Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net If anyone has a current contact number for Keith, please let me know. If you are out there Keith, contact me off the list. Thanks. Cheers, Doug ____________________________________________________________ Map Your Flood Risk Find Floodplan Maps, Facts, FAQs, Your Flood Risk Profile and More! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/543ad5ae4c39355ae7bd9st04duc _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 20:53:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEBF258464A for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 20:53:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.cal.net (smtp.cal.net [216.57.71.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E6C258097D for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 20:53:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail.cal.net (mail.cal.net [216.57.71.23]) by smtp.cal.net with ESMTP id Xt0cKuKCD8Awk2vF for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 19:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28021418036 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 19:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YaFEgKlsQCx3 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 19:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cal.net (mail.cal.net [216.57.71.23]) by mail.cal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760B7418024 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 19:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 19:55:58 -0700 (PDT) From: goldengt@cal.net To: healeys (Win)/7.2.3_GA_2872) TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=9.0 KILL_LEVEL=7.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 NO_REAL_NAME From: does not include a real name Subject: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I have had my three wire O2sensors and AirFuel meter for quite a while but now thought I have the time to do something about the readings. I have a mostly stock BJ8 with Kirk headers, 10%ethanol. With stock needles, I cruise one meter segment LED rich at sea level and at 2000 feet, the next richer meter segment is flickering. Not so bad, I guess. The faster I go, the richer I get in a gradual manner. However, when I climb a hill during the cruise at around 70mph, the meter goes dead lean (one LED from zero). It usually shows completely lean at hard acceleration also. 40mph cruise gives the same one LED rich as at 70. So should I get some weaker springs first or try for a needle that tapers to rich faster after the cruise? The web stuff I see says to try the needles. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 20:59:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6005925846C9 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 20:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357802580852 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 20:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id n8so3971525qaq.28 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 20:02:23 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zNwHvawogY5OBGaiTEa8XY9Tv/T8bV9VQg0Yg524sko=; b=kWPjwuwC+02kHIj9WP9YMy7euSzIA1ZKvU6I3VXCJFADA1gNMjLfCJLCI+fmkUS+Wd qgV4zwk/1CBf85R/lkIB28vYj/SXdELJ6pRz7Sy+psQc785s16B8koH/2O3+rWxqR5cf wtB23NFDq5cao3nUTNNwLUXmb3wEodigWyMMnzQZSvDiwzZrP09rz757Onz3iMrZfaOv QeWukJbPznIolIY8GZIRjpUUFq7Hym7N6wneq/Nb1605OLOGrCvkcAWbKpeM7esOLB3i a1MZTq6cco7J6cX4YHCvPgkUO3b3luDO8AfiUZem/VgaJ+VNvR2zTaa0AXpjPy065LQf bkbA== a9mr36585347qam.88.1413169342989; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 20:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.3.197 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 20:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 17:02:22 -1000 From: Kimo Briske To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving [ Monday ] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net To all our friends in Canada, Happy Thanksgiving ! _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 22:11:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB1425846E6 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 22:11:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f46.google.com (mail-oi0-f46.google.com [209.85.218.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16712580912 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 22:11:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f46.google.com with SMTP id h136so11934160oig.5 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:14:13 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=rJyDBQnlEicFJTVSYKYvcwO3JhlJ5YFj/Mo6FIzqEiM=; b=VV2HQgj35dByPHYgqRHegb7mTPq/AGksUOlKug7QYsWuoRjV1V0OcqqEx8urgDiZOC ALTo57Jd0YMiIO6jHsbNr7IlgKpwZ/PJm4AQ3K794cXjx3tAOZqgu9HT+ci5g8uLOTPx TRbFG1DTCIgZ+dHduEkR6CNiA4/KG4K9bsz2tasCAfQe/dM6XWGGZBFYAnSyelEHLODw F13ULN4zIwkXXvcT273ZG7Jvm8rckKa+g/Nayt+XUKh0YWV0uw+6VSMjjGDxs+IY+qfV KywSqJAsbEuP3fyawvU7AQEtTIm/YUTjfD8vNR15tcC8tMrpSB0JYL8pCTsf3NxO7lW4 T6wQ== sj9mr19673377oeb.20.1413173653667; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:13:43 -0700 (PDT) References: From: I Erbs Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:13:43 -0700 To: Kimo Briske Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving [ Monday ] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone know the story behind the Canadian Holiday? Monday Bank Holiday or? Cheers Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Kimo Briske wrote: > To all our friends in Canada, Happy Thanksgiving ! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 01:44:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F2C2584798 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 01:44:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep49.mx.upcmail.net (fep49.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D170E25846BD for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 01:43:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe49-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141013074659.IIVD27787.viepfeppe49-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:46:59 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 2Xmz1p00Y0Hh4wo01XmzGA; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:46:59 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:46:57 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <1534484734.16963.1413168958312.JavaMail.root@cal.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net What oil do you use in the dashpots? One should use thin oil like 3in1 (best and cheap) or the special stuff sold for the purpose. Kees Oudesluijs goldengt@cal.net schreef op 13-10-2014 4:55: > I have had my three wire O2sensors and AirFuel meter for quite a while but now thought I have the time to do something about the readings. > I have a mostly stock BJ8 with Kirk headers, 10%ethanol. With stock needles, I cruise one meter segment LED rich at sea level and at 2000 feet, the next richer meter segment is flickering. Not so bad, I guess. The faster I go, the richer I get in a gradual manner. However, when I climb a hill during the cruise at around 70mph, the meter goes dead lean (one LED from zero). It usually shows completely lean at hard acceleration also. > 40mph cruise gives the same one LED rich as at 70. > So should I get some weaker springs first or try for a needle that tapers to rich faster after the cruise? > The web stuff I see says to try the needles. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8379 - datum van uitgifte: 10/13/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 01:53:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF81E25847A2 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 01:53:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151E42584704 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 01:49:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hi2so6624238wib.14 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 00:53:05 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=1WWw8UnwdH6jwmug7j2Nq0N81duHvBBt40l0RWSyLLs=; b=v4jUU7j+2ZUbyHLPIDOUQW/T0HgnQvTbsR+XEWuEguW+qaOTYlHPCJox0+THZeZst0 0wYjompJLz5j2cHm8+K2iCFn+tCCQDst8FBUYZx1m/E8evwYWsbS/MQBqqJkk+v948zx iCsrWOzWt2kIUgMsyUTkQM1MqbjYVbICqqTK/kZs1Q3BNLVDf1KN7qD8Oe1mlAO4rgCI bBCSaXIGbI3HNMQ4btxP6scxqv5SkYai8OyygraRnV9lLcO5RIWROjndHefBx2Se1iHB pHXA1vQidQGraaXQ4hpFETbigJivqzamv2gweCtSNSPmbxWhj47FOt07xZM/fzK7Wm99 Q8Ow== cq7mr19792999wjb.58.1413186785239; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 00:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.27.36.108] ([212.183.140.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gt7sm11218946wib.18.2014.10.13.00.53.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 13 Oct 2014 00:53:04 -0700 (PDT) References: <1534484734.16963.1413168958312.JavaMail.root@cal.net> From: 'bluehealey' Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:53:03 +0100 To: "goldengt@cal.net" Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net This sounds like the float bowls running low at WOT (wide open throttle). I have a 3wire sensor in my down pipes too and have found that standard springs and needles are pretty much spot on in a BJ8 spec. AlanB - iPhone message. > On 13 Oct 2014, at 03:55, goldengt@cal.net wrote: > > I have had my three wire O2sensors and AirFuel meter for quite a while but now thought I have the time to do something about the readings. > I have a mostly stock BJ8 with Kirk headers, 10%ethanol. With stock needles, I cruise one meter segment LED rich at sea level and at 2000 feet, the next richer meter segment is flickering. Not so bad, I guess. The faster I go, the richer I get in a gradual manner. However, when I climb a hill during the cruise at around 70mph, the meter goes dead lean (one LED from zero). It usually shows completely lean at hard acceleration also. > 40mph cruise gives the same one LED rich as at 70. > So should I get some weaker springs first or try for a needle that tapers to rich faster after the cruise? > The web stuff I see says to try the needles. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 08:09:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B255F258480E for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.cal.net (smtp.cal.net [216.57.71.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B246258448F for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:07:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail.cal.net (mail.cal.net [216.57.71.23]) by smtp.cal.net with ESMTP id MHgRat1GNF7yL1oW; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 07:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3694341803C; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 07:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZMH3ijJ8ptQX; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cal.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FA4418020; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT) From: goldengt@cal.net To: Oudesluys (Win)/7.2.3_GA_2872) TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=9.0 KILL_LEVEL=7.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 NO_REAL_NAME From: does not include a real name Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The special stuff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" To: healeys@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:46:57 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning What oil do you use in the dashpots? One should use thin oil like 3in1 (best and cheap) or the special stuff sold for the purpose. Kees Oudesluijs goldengt@cal.net schreef op 13-10-2014 4:55: > I have had my three wire O2sensors and AirFuel meter for quite a while but now thought I have the time to do something about the readings. > I have a mostly stock BJ8 with Kirk headers, 10%ethanol. With stock needles, I cruise one meter segment LED rich at sea level and at 2000 feet, the next richer meter segment is flickering. Not so bad, I guess. The faster I go, the richer I get in a gradual manner. However, when I climb a hill during the cruise at around 70mph, the meter goes dead lean (one LED from zero). It usually shows completely lean at hard acceleration also. > 40mph cruise gives the same one LED rich as at 70. > So should I get some weaker springs first or try for a needle that tapers to rich faster after the cruise? > The web stuff I see says to try the needles. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8379 - datum van uitgifte: 10/13/14 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 08:24:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2DF258483B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:24:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S13.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s13.hotmail.com [65.55.111.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCD1258447D for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:20:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W36 ([65.55.111.71]) by BLU004-OMC2S13.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 13 Oct 2014 07:23:54 -0700 From: Jean Caron To: I Erbs , Kimo Briske Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 14:23:53 +0000 References: , FILETIME=[51363E90:01CFE6F1] Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving [ Monday ] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Ira: Apparently the Thanksgiving Holiday in Canada is a Christian tradition celebrating the bountiful harvest in the older days. I did not know that either but I asked that question just last night when friends were visiting. Jean > From: eyera3000@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:13:43 -0700 > To: kimobriske@gmail.com > CC: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving [ Monday ] > > Anyone know the story behind the Canadian Holiday? > Monday Bank Holiday or? > Cheers > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) > (_________________________) > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Kimo Briske wrote: > > > To all our friends in Canada, Happy Thanksgiving ! > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/vintage_roadster_restoration@ho tmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 09:10:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B722584995 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:10:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa12-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa12-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCAB25848AC for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:09:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([71.210.229.165]) by p3plsmtpa12-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 2fCv1p00J3alfWF01fCvQV; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:12:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:12:52 -0600 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] holidays... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net And today is the traditional American Columbus Day.. however, that has been deemed too politically incorrect for those who, for reasons unbeknownst to me, have the power to make such asinine changes to tradition... dave -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 09:15:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8DA25849B5 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:15:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f50.google.com (mail-oi0-f50.google.com [209.85.218.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835EE2584892 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:14:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f50.google.com with SMTP id i138so13676900oig.9 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:18:07 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZDjr5hXnM+nPycqhwrIehvRUQycIhASPcacKDdPI2Z4=; b=AhUCpUUkxqQfQhX3gbLfngdCCMH6TRSGR/UpIQtgPIHX9hervcJHqDXPWIFyS+XBlo 9G4U17IG2q5QLZIMhsuTNvVXH0FAZMgoxIFq/5PRM2dFWK8SG/yohohzmEmcdt0pnbuR qjbaiVmZV3ysLtkgyTytmbLy0JjMD+T36pPkV4oRJDZZ0VPdaVFXDzTfpWJVv+fU3Dpk 8LRjQeHHHtNUOX5l1RQdQ8cXtcNiFzQd48ORSgzM7KU6xFr1zKJWLJgIV8XNagFCnuJX C68crCURoaspz6bEdRqAzxICJqL4wufPB3yEPnWlPGdHoYb66KguH2Wb++YgI3Jx7bFW L4ow== w7mr2636098oem.50.1413213487593; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:17:37 -0700 (PDT) References: <543BEBF4.3030106@porterscustom.com> From: I Erbs Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:17:37 -0700 To: David Porter Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] holidays... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net You mean Native American subjugation Day does not have the same ring? Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:12 AM, David Porter wrote: > And today is the traditional American Columbus Day.. however, that has > been deemed too politically incorrect for those who, for reasons > unbeknownst to me, have the power to make such asinine changes to > tradition... > dave > -- > Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 > 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 09:16:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A3625849B3 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD782584892 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:16:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-17v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.241]) by resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 2fJr1p0055Clt1L01fKDmW; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 15:19:13 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-057v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.67]) by resomta-po-17v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 2fKD1p0031TddKW01fKD8R; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 15:19:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 15:19:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: David Porter References: <543BEBF4.3030106@porterscustom.com> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: holidays... Thread-Index: DbzKp370JVDqHT0JIQpVDWfhChXeag== s=q20140121; t=1413213553; bh=JA0ZNTxhJ89xdzkWNd4UxIKe3Ed4DNKCYAepUu7C8gc=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=DOjwGerffNr3LXu4QoASApglX1N7SH+R9pSvtKoGNAWpMacGn2VB4chGWxqQdFEk+ LJQDRUYI4cTZ0DQwAmsdO1EuYEWGxyOBA5kHMW1SwUSLk/3yG72KV6bPD+iC8JiZOn 5ewqjLux8gczBpa1rWkyJx7+ay6mA4dfD3VCw5ZE1N7rQ4fH+cM7YZFvU8FOnfnvNf c0XyYLXAa0fb6+PbxW7B8yV7bwQJgzSS4WfXKPyQUUiP18XfIWDMWIecmlBLSGA7jL RrzqlYU5jfdHb6G5w/kuuip8+j7g06+W/dsulBhUdAtMZz2fhrEdFu7CJZ48FZuvxy cz4oE+JZBkJOA== Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] holidays... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net re: ".. for reasons unbeknownst to me .." Here's a few: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-kasum/columbus-day-a-bad-idea_b_742708.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Porter" To: "healeys" Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:12:52 AM Subject: [Healeys] holidays... And today is the traditional American Columbus Day.. however, that has been deemed too politically incorrect for those who, for reasons unbeknownst to me, have the power to make such asinine changes to tradition... dave -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 09:18:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7F92584A1A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:18:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCDF25804CB for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:17:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo306 ([68.230.241.174]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141013152100.EAZI8128.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo306> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:21:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([68.8.99.146]) by fed1rmimpo306 with cox id 2fLz1p00e39WC8c01fLzJM; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:20:59 -0400 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:17 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=ixUkeaBTAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=1II3RYjI3CPz9eeyN_wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=Nl2cq7KA0bMA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Wilko2 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:20:59 -0700 Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" References: <2fDK1p00U0NyJgq01fDLlG> Subject: Re: [Healeys] holidays... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net It's still Columbus day. Some "traditions" are disgusting with the 20/20 of hindsight. On Oct 13, 2014, at 8:12 AM, David Porter wrote: > And today is the traditional American Columbus Day.. however, that has been deemed too politically incorrect for those who, for reasons unbeknownst to me, have the power to make such asinine changes to tradition... > dave > -- > Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins@cox.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 10:10:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E432584A31 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:10:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail02.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 96A53258069C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:03:41 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1413216411; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Cc:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=allA1IfB47yMoDLURCwAM7HI39upj/C4tQB/9Za0yeSEoiLoqoYHXa6ejRbK0f4df O1zCE6OgaFu+jxcRktVH6hRTrG9aHf6behYCSiakCQk843PTjggt+Ci59s4z/8gWwy TqojKY4/ema+6czV7YkF2/AoNBGmDk4wMfEM8qKI= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (mailpop03.dca.untd.com [10.171.45.23]) by smtpout02.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABLDZ8EKAWW9QX2 for (sender ); Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:06:33 -0700 (PDT) To: e-wilkins@cox.net Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:05:37 -0400 From: Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] holidays... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Please name one so I may have the benefit of "hindsight". On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:20:59 -0700 Wilko2 writes: > It's still Columbus day. > > Some "traditions" are disgusting with the 20/20 of hindsight. > > > On Oct 13, 2014, at 8:12 AM, David Porter wrote: > > > And today is the traditional American Columbus Day.. however, that > has been > deemed too politically incorrect for those who, for reasons > unbeknownst to me, > have the power to make such asinine changes to tradition... > > dave > > -- > > Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, > NM 87107 > 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dwflagg@juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ Map Your Flood Risk Find Floodplan Maps, Facts, FAQs, Your Flood Risk Profile and More! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/543bf889c06ba78893eb8st02duc _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 10:25:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A342584A0C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:25:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S3.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s3.hotmail.com [65.55.111.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228B92580852 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:25:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU405-EAS427 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S3.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:28:31 -0700 References: From: Rick Swain Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:28:32 -0300 To: "healeys@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[BA00F710:01CFE702] Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving [ Monday ] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net the first. Thanksgiving in what's now Canada was celebrated by Martin Frobisher in Newfoundland in 1578 (incidentally 43 years before the Pilgrim Fathers) to give thanks for his successful voyage across the Atlantic. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 13, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jean Caron wrote: > > Ira: > Apparently the Thanksgiving Holiday in Canada is a Christian tradition > celebrating the bountiful harvest in the older days. I did not know that > either but I asked that question just last night when friends were visiting. > > Jean > >> From: eyera3000@gmail.com >> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:13:43 -0700 >> To: kimobriske@gmail.com >> CC: healeys@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving [ Monday ] >> >> Anyone know the story behind the Canadian Holiday? >> Monday Bank Holiday or? >> Cheers >> >> Ira Erbs >> Portland, OR >> _______ _______ >> (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) >> (_________________________) >> >>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Kimo Briske wrote: >>> >>> To all our friends in Canada, Happy Thanksgiving ! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> >>> Healeys@autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/vintage_roadster_restoration@ho > tmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rjswain@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 10:57:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83053258447D for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:57:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from cmta17.telus.net (cmta17.telus.net [209.171.16.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2002580852 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:56:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from WINDOWST93OFP9 ([154.20.22.193]) by cmta17.telus.net with TELUS id 2gzn1p00L49xT9E01gzn5f; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:59:49 -0600 a=C6ev1NsZz1ygohoQRENMaA==:17 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=QWbc5P4I_GMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=M1MjnI41AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=h4GZV9Cc6w8ErxH8oTAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=ZIICMiRxU0sA:10 a=rBKJJ2Jc0C4A:10 a=C6ev1NsZz1ygohoQRENMaA==:117 From: "Roger Grace" To: , "healeys" References: <1534484734.16963.1413168958312.JavaMail.root@cal.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:59:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net This is very interesting to me, as now that have converted my '67 BJ8 to -ve ground, one of my Winter projects is to install a pair of Bosch wideband O2 sensors. So would really like to hear of your experiences when you did this, and what sensors and monitoring equipment you are using ? Assume that you have installed 2 sensors and have 2 monitors or do you switch ? How difficult was it to install the bung for mounting the sensors ? Innovate are supposedly coming out with a new model where you can monitor data on your phone. As you have reported, this really does give a true indication of the SU tuning at WOT and under load and cruising conditions; when all is said and done the usual SU tuning is done near idle and relies on the needle profile and springs etc. being correct for your engine, fuel, altitude and how you drive. I do agree with "Blue Healy" that what you have reported seems to point to some fuel starvation at WOT - SU and AH surely did not get the profile sooo wrong. Any input on this topic much appreciated. rg -----Original Message----- From: goldengt@cal.net Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:55 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning I have had my three wire O2sensors and AirFuel meter for quite a while but now thought I have the time to do something about the readings. I have a mostly stock BJ8 with Kirk headers, 10%ethanol. With stock needles, I cruise one meter segment LED rich at sea level and at 2000 feet, the next richer meter segment is flickering. Not so bad, I guess. The faster I go, the richer I get in a gradual manner. However, when I climb a hill during the cruise at around 70mph, the meter goes dead lean (one LED from zero). It usually shows completely lean at hard acceleration also. 40mph cruise gives the same one LED rich as at 70. So should I get some weaker springs first or try for a needle that tapers to rich faster after the cruise? The web stuff I see says to try the needles. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace@telus.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 11:10:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303F4258468C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:10:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from hoster902.com (hoster902.com [64.14.72.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDE6258088C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:07:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 23267 invoked by uid 503); 13 Oct 2014 17:10:22 -0000 Received: from 71-95-207-154.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com (HELO PEECEEDELL) (steveg@71.95.207.154) by hoster902.com with ESMTPA; 13 Oct 2014 17:10:22 -0000 From: "Steve Gerow" To: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:10:26 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/nCJUiVgP8SnqNSiCut4cIzRLi+g== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Ken, These are my notes from an APT dyno session a couple of years ago: >>> According to the dyno-tuners, Advanced Performance Technology. http://www.aptfast.com/ .this is what we learned at a session there: the spring issue is counter-intuitive. According to APT, the going next step heavier spring will often make an improvement in drivability. It will make the carb richer throughout the range by increasing the air velocity past the jet. This has more effect than raising the needle. Heavier damper oil will have the effect of richening the mixture on acceleration as it retards the rise of the piston while ultimately having no effect at cruise. Together the two of them constitute the "accelerator pump" on the SU. At the session, we observed this on my friend Peter Roses' 29D 100-6 by swapping springs then making runs on the back streets in Riverside adjacent to APT. One step heavier resulted in improved performance. Two steps heavier not so good. Back to the original then settling on one-step heavier. I've observed the heavier-oil richening. Both of us are running K&N air-fuel meters so we can see the leanness and richness on the gauges for each carb. <<< PS - APT said that some racers were using gear oil in their dashpots. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA, USA BN6 - 29D engine, HD8s, Kirk headers _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 11:56:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A3025847A2 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:56:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27382580728 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:56:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Oct 2014 17:59:20 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Oct 2014 17:56:32 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.6] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Oct 2014 17:56:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Oct 2014 17:56:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 97764 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Oct 2014 17:56:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413222991; bh=qIHrs0/TNicwApid7EQ2Nkz0oIJVh60sD4iYEWa29r8=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oc6JVfoLKvsCEoNXmZhRGlhf3wkpfBkibE4chw/nPrMb8//9EW0r926xaf9mSeaQucDxmkhpTu9hSPBMkh/wdxMxLtorGTRkGA14te50zPsDcWKOtwQ6zlMaEweeJI0pf6nMuP2gWDcfNleNCRvXJtLUhg/+vEvuDHEmET5TVh4= Ake2BK2h6YWxLWnuQgifw_50P9AZk2DxsF00z8RdnvHTjfq6R7Yq7pidUzVe 0rQx6nAefdv0z0xq.T9ZBSj30IaslsKJesJj.tRdmNFDaNtkgJVUQ7xXGSA0 mjeftVrfAti_xf_AFENR7x1yy9E9x6LrH1DFdRn.11Vp5JFfVUzXshxwkZtG 2DGg9qlvQ.tS4g0VbJMjIKdkCVX_GCCbIN6mgk8rdQc8edhjDlwpEJ1xhfKf zW8QooC3hW3nm0HxQrTOKPkRiP_KBc_dmwe4qCCTofBAGiMsHSaAwOZGBdiE GWhc7knlmsJkmHZz_7b0YM.lSrYCV2uUZljIkdMQkK5ySq4rdsNnRgfSkUy3 6HS4sHfQrqpNVEwLXuUycoORQYmEUdGEqTYSqjSvbfDdZjPn.ajdDkfM0BTV uB9kKsyjohgb0NO.cOQBKmK0lY.J2yNiPgGinFU3K0kR2rI1nX8rnCOM.otQ Av5QfiZ9SLgn1.1sqnaq6.D88hB171Imd7vvR.il62BPuF6HuzCsfnFfcdsn ZROY0i7w9XxTd2o.yIC3M2En4Q4hBVnOa3f7UTGtBt_c0At9Dgl9VGXM9w3r dfjUwCTZpIFXwTOcfOVm.9p5eDChfKcnUsbSFcm1LshkRvaabgPYbBfprtSn BG4fA2BVVLg75WSI.NTU- Received: from [24.236.231.67] by web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:56:31 PDT SSB0aG91Z2h0IHdlIGFncmVlZCB0byBrZWVwIHBvbGl0aWNhbCBvcGluaW9ucyBvZmYgdGhpcyBGb3J1bS4gIAoKUm9uIE1pdGNoZWxsCgoKT24gTW9uZGF5LCBPY3RvYmVyIDEzLCAyMDE0IDExOjEyIEFNLCBEYXZpZCBQb3J0ZXIgPGZyb2dleWVAcG9ydGVyc2N1c3RvbS5jb20.IHdyb3RlOgogCgoKQW5kIHRvZGF5IGlzIHRoZSB0cmFkaXRpb25hbCBBbWVyaWNhbiBDb2x1bWJ1cyBEYXkuLiBob3dldmVyLCB0aGF0IGhhcyAKYmVlbiBkZWVtZWQgdG9vIHBvbGl0aWNhbGx5IGluY29ycmVjdCBmb3IgdGhvc2UBMAEBAQE- References: <543BEBF4.3030106@porterscustom.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:56:31 -0700 From: Ron Mitchell To: David Porter , "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] holidays... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I thought we agreed to keep political opinions off this Forum. Ron Mitchell On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:12 AM, David Porter wrote: And today is the traditional American Columbus Day.. however, that has been deemed too politically incorrect for those who, for reasons unbeknownst to me, have the power to make such asinine changes to tradition... dave -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 12:10:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B8F258482E for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E0E258479B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:03:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id n8so4840369qaq.14 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:06:41 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ejwdf65wqTHcNXF8q+Ar/5AgQQw35BE9w9G2Kmkgzxs=; b=qzrcpRs6BOFyvhcxYCR2IQwH0nAs4IQHBhbbLr0eNMoRZW1uWlQhcOAW2uEfbIvUT4 Fih2RP1N6urADEiSSTR4QBheoQ2lIu2CLz0DoifobYoBObYOVLQ/hphq5Q8uIj5HM54z J7uQFQ2Vnpj++ktmIsyKV7DMFXChCtMzbK9CcbLK8fPhsIz4mfyQYyMSQ7NnT2wy9l82 R8DTdHkhnTcIYmpKwO8yDHCmh5V+nMGiHcFL78IVyWK+zaCrZggrn0RQievcTCXspx0U R0p0QBxt7NEKlpKr7AhmYFcu8lKcM6RuusopjiyeNgYCkaZQ0M8mheT/c3j2dv0+wFnb 7RWw== Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.3.197 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:06:41 -1000 From: Kimo Briske To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net A good day to enjoy a fall drive ! _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 12:40:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B6C25847F5 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:40:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail145c7.megamailservers.com (mail755.megamailservers.com [69.49.98.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B275258479B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:40:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (67-225-39-194.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca [67.225.39.194]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail145c7.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s9DIhFZU003048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 14:43:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:43:14 -0600 From: "E.A. Driver" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 a=VsFhPi0YuT4DXBvHQXOekw==:17 a=BDKbP5mgAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=YxfxW3ofkq8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=uhPMnebkAAAA:8 a=8_a8bdX9A6DxK7E9WpEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving [ Monday ] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net No.No Rick. It was the Vikings who landed in Newfoundland in 1000AD, out of Meade and finally sobering up enjoyed the willow leaves the natives supplied to relieve their headache. They gave thanks as they discovered aspirin and became filthly rich ;-) :-P ;-) Ed Saskatoon 14 10:28 AM, Rick Swain wrote: > the first. Thanksgiving in what's now Canada was celebrated by Martin > Frobisher in Newfoundland in 1578 (incidentally 43 years before the Pilgrim > Fathers) to give thanks for his successful voyage across the Atlantic. > > Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 13:10:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0632584905 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S35.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s35.hotmail.com [65.55.111.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35384258479B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:04:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU405-EAS203 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S35.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:08:10 -0700 References: <543C1D42.4080101@sasktel.net> From: Rick Swain Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:08:08 -0300 To: "E.A. Driver" FILETIME=[07A3FCE0:01CFE719] Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving [ Monday ] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Ed for clearing that up for me. I'm at my son's place polishing off local wine while waiting for the arrival of the turkey. Sixteen of us - happy chaos. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Oct 13, 2014, at 3:47 PM, E.A. Driver wrote: > > hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 13:13:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731C625849AE for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:13:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout02.plus.net (avasout02.plus.net [212.159.14.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8AF258479B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:12:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([87.114.15.40]) by avasout02 with smtp id 2jG31p0010rraiX01jG55x; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 20:16:06 +0100 a=1bbhETJjzLnWoxsVpFlErQ==:117 a=1bbhETJjzLnWoxsVpFlErQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=2ciaTQvf_9oA:10 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=lwYiUXiwEdd9elAqKXcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZZ9DM0IaCRYA:10 a=UVUZ9YfGjbUA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=qdwXvCrHdwOsUmk7PnwA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 20:16:02 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac/nGh86ZWdMm8A4SxaAgAIkoJYOcQ== Content-Language: en-gb Subject: [Healeys] Prices Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I bought one of the car magazines the other day. Forget which one...the one with a red 3000 on the front. Anyhow, I was struck by the "For sale" cars' prices....by how much they seem to have risen since I last looked. Is it my memory that's failed or have prices risen quite considerably in, say, the last 15 months? That would be a rise across the whole market.............. I live in the UK....don't know if it's happening on both sides of the Atlantic...? Simon _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 13:40:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B5B25849C9 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:40:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from visioncenterpc.com (cbl-static-80-009.machlink.com [69.49.80.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC33F258482E for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:39:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 10.50.10.11 ([10.50.10.11]) by server.visioncenter.local ([10.50.10.11]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 19:41:29 +0000 From: "Chris Scholz" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 14:42:47 -0500 References: <000001cfe71a$2300ba90$69022fb0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> thread-topic: [Healeys] Prices thread-index: Ac/nHa8fT1MFXvE7T3GDfem1N759Yg== To: "Simon Lachlan" Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Prices Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net A 1958 100-6 unrestored with a non running engine was sold at an estate auction this Saturday in Omaha Nebraska for $8500. It had a broken windshield, rotted interior, no transmission, numerous dents and moderate rust. Restored Healeys seem to be advertised for $49k-$69k on hemmings and eBay and perfect examples are listed at $89k or more. I wonder what they are actually selling for. Chris Scholz OD > On Oct 13, 2014, at 2:15 PM, "Simon Lachlan" wrote: > > I bought one of the car magazines the other day. Forget which one...the one > with a red 3000 on the front. > > Anyhow, I was struck by the "For sale" cars' prices....by how much they seem > to have risen since I last looked. Is it my memory that's failed or have > prices risen quite considerably in, say, the last 15 months? That would be a > rise across the whole market.............. > > I live in the UK....don't know if it's happening on both sides of the > Atlantic...? > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drscholz@visioncenterpc.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 13:55:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B7725849AD for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:55:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f49.google.com (mail-oi0-f49.google.com [209.85.218.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41142584971 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:51:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f49.google.com with SMTP id a3so14302063oib.22 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:54:23 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:cc:content-type; bh=LOVZMlWqcM4HYGxMA4xFQSKJohOUPJUl3xr/IxPvBFI=; b=Y9AEw2x2ydXK/G5dUTFgmF8UICNJSEqG3PctemObSA4fyyEj9TJ8Ch70CD4Cog57Dg XeJzqIIUusAmJy87ufGM9PudHDH2boBEehabJ0YjIyNBUosonjeC5XNj28pvF9bVVfYh NWtpDnxSHI9C7M9/kQ19Qyjok+Hu2u+A8K7pdLk9ajhk15NwMtsbnlpv+1OmRi5v7xgu /Tq/zrnjHpHBwgTsTQBJeY/tYPCahB4uGslhFIUgFvyHSXgubFp8faYm2fBCuNPHbF2i ZVg9tx6pY+Hb6qGf5aObBfg/Dz53cr6MC5vffTsdWPt1YkVh7ERIlOnbOh9YEOXQk2n/ 49IA== Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:53:52 -0700 (PDT) References: <543c2514.8883320a.5238.51d3SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> From: I Erbs Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:53:52 -0700 Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Prices Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net IMHO we are in am investment bubble. Can't earn much money in bank savings, the upper class is making money faster than they can spend it, so investment in cars seems to be the current focus. Yes they are going up. So be sure to up your agreed upon values of your cars. I raise mine a min of 5% each year, but have boosted it as much as 15% and Hagerty has not pushed back. Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Simon Lachlan < simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk> wrote: > I bought one of the car magazines the other day. Forget which one...the one > with a red 3000 on the front. > > Anyhow, I was struck by the "For sale" cars' prices....by how much they > seem > to have risen since I last looked. Is it my memory that's failed or have > prices risen quite considerably in, say, the last 15 months? That would be > a > rise across the whole market.............. > > I live in the UK....don't know if it's happening on both sides of the > Atlantic...? > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 18:48:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0ED72580A99 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:48:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9BD25805F9; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:48:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([unknown] [173.70.153.3]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDE00JA8T1QMZ70@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net>; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 19:51:27 -0500 (CDT) From: George Marinos Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 20:51:26 -0400 References: <8D1B54E6966506C-19B8-2389D@webmail-vm165.sysops.aol.com> To: Spridget List , Healeys Cc: Mark Kriwinsky Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: katlan Jones Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings lists, Does anyone know a Katlan Jones from Potomac, Maryland? A friend is trying to locate her as she is a big Healey person and not in any of the clubs directories. Many thanks. George in jersey Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Mark Kriwinsky > Date: October 13, 2014 at 6:44:41 PM EDT > To: gmari2@verizon.net > Subject: katlan Jones > > George; > > I'm trying to find a Katlan Jones who lives in Potomac Maryland. Is this person a member of your club. They are not a member of the USA or America Club. > > Mark Kriwinsky _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 06:14:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19C22584BBF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 06:14:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01ABD25845FC for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 06:07:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.243]) by resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 30Au1p0065FMDhs010Av4z; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:10:55 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([98.207.131.183]) by resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 30Au1p00M3xa1La010AvSp; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:10:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 05:10:47 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeylist s=q20140121; t=1413288655; bh=SZ882gjN5OxQUnqpZqwFmpFpMdXK6D7qswRZxtRqGLQ=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=lL52P5nuQb57hjx7YmaCy8W6/tn0eN1wQh+ffEaK+VUJrml/seenfLBSZRm4xOtmM IJk6UUZiAxNEgaEA3AnSLst1OQ81C2jhTpSqhXhSLiH04A++xbKOHmJrCktW4f2gGv +WjUjQcFe9RetZo/ayIA7F9RIMD0+89euNTH+N6DDsBxGwd7EymUWvJ0mz6/V3tNZI KJ0W6jHYkUUIzrrL6f4evKIYpEfXldKkhcPqQ5FBTQpWw9W/AxRh5MQ8rwB+IKm0kS TJjScXN8h/LOb9gPycaVT5GrqspGRiLPQZW8D8JYhjp+Vt9cDL7A5x3Yx+lY3AlH5B Qezz7bykKAi1Q== Subject: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars 100M Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net On an episode I saw last night Wayne inspected and picked-up a red/black 100M. He mostly got the info correct, but was suspicious that the car did not have the small 'M' on the grill flash. I've read they weren't always installed, and may have been a 'bonus' for preferred customers, or it could have fallen off at some time. At any rate, it was a beautiful car with only 35K miles and original paint. They should show the sale in a later episode; if I miss it maybe someone could report the sale price. I'm guessing $200K or better (especially if it goes to auction). On another note, anyone heard from Alan Seigrist? He used to be a regular poster but haven't heard from him in a while. Bob -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 06:29:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA6F2584BE8 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 06:29:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta55.windstream.net (pacmmta55-web.windstream.net [162.39.147.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607EE2584B92 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 06:26:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pamxwww10-z01 ([10.135.134.94]) by pacmmta55.windstream.net with pacmmta55 id 30W81p00F22N0ky010W80V; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:30:08 -0400 a=wHPNZ/Mfpwhk2GSd8V5EIg==:117 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=UT_QgiwtmQIA:10 a=LuI0nJzwFaMA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=lIEQF2NLjGq4BScoasUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=TlnOPt13aEMA:10 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 8:30:08 -0400 From: Tom Felts To: Bob Spidell , healeylist Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars 100M Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net He lives in Hong Kong----maybe caught up in all the fuss going on over there. tom ---- Bob Spidell wrote: ============= On an episode I saw last night Wayne inspected and picked-up a red/black 100M. He mostly got the info correct, but was suspicious that the car did not have the small 'M' on the grill flash. I've read they weren't always installed, and may have been a 'bonus' for preferred customers, or it could have fallen off at some time. At any rate, it was a beautiful car with only 35K miles and original paint. They should show the sale in a later episode; if I miss it maybe someone could report the sale price. I'm guessing $200K or better (especially if it goes to auction). On another note, anyone heard from Alan Seigrist? He used to be a regular poster but haven't heard from him in a while. Bob -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 07:30:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360B62584C7D for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 07:30:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [64.8.71.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D352425844CE for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 07:29:48 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=5FJGgOzRQp/alP4YMaknDA==:17 a=NM-2Wi9R0k4A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=DA-v0VzzAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=6v2PeqXnjHGMj3qxIv4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=ueZmfdD4mcUA:10 a=5FJGgOzRQp/alP4YMaknDA==:117 X_CMAE_Category: , , Authentication-Results: smtp02.wow.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=schottc; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [69.1.42.140] ([69.1.42.140:65420] helo=CharliePC) by smtp.knology.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.1.42806 r(Platform:3.6.1.1)) with ESMTPA id FC/B1-06013-B062D345; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:33:00 -0400 From: "Charlie Schott" To: "Bob Spidell" , "healeylist" References: <543D12C7.1040409@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 06:33:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Painting the cove Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net When painting the cove on a two tone BT7, how far do you go under the front and rear fenders? And what about the color of the bolt heads? Thanks. Regards, Charlie Schott -- ******************************************************************* Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc@knology.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 08:04:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80892584BFC for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:04:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845712584BFC for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:04:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.231]) by resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 326b1p0014zp9eg0127kNB; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:07:44 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-057v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.67]) by resomta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 327k1p00D1TddKW0127klM; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:07:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:07:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: Charlie Schott References: <543D12C7.1040409@comcast.net> <2FDE0DE9CAE64BFDAC746A003C600B00@CharliePC> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Painting the cove Thread-Index: POVD/6sNY7s0DICjoVy/GhbUgSXrxQ== s=q20140121; t=1413295664; bh=FUp/hzuT46DUklDv9hzWZwxw3AKlE5GIZn3T/Hj0xBo=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=kFj5f6CZZSli9DBZ0SJbpQNrBfOAx9xcZaUMmVI9rkuNUXS1H+u3xamsPsw41/Zxn 8K32zgkhPSxHzSKcR93QDHmUbcY+84dTNmeuGA0bhwQ7UsToHeHEZndFrCn9HY3G0E dcmVFSEaA8qMmlSIDrB6Q+vtjMwHH2UrnY2hfXrjN+FTFMMcMofPiIqI7PU6IaDLaa OAe0NkyU8+ZtwElHymkh1IHvDVdPw+a+M+2l/61t1SXCHpX4QzigfWin9F15z7XWo0 mo4zpXLMEg8ZBmRCZ98HXzfXgIWhdhIL6xlzep1YY0lQqMT16r/ssNzYlvDZMOjgnF azwvycy/nWL1A== Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Painting the cove Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net AFAIK, the cove color was applied at the factory by masking along the bottom edge of the character line flange, and applied to everything below (including bolts). There was likely overspray in the wheel wells and under the car, though I've never seen an original enough car to know for sure (the wheels and tires, if they were on, were likely covered). Bob ----- Original Message ----- When painting the cove on a two tone BT7, how far do you go under the front and rear fenders? And what about the color of the bolt heads? Thanks. Regards, Charlie Schott -- ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 08:32:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD582584DD4 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:32:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f48.google.com (mail-oi0-f48.google.com [209.85.218.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEAD2584C71 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:32:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f48.google.com with SMTP id g201so16643553oib.7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 07:35:32 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=1jU3ORvL8wNMZ3NpvDWE/vER8wxZFF4PhQqgE0aA0vc=; b=ZpJRd+X1ifgKUCfDlf//cTZK4+9KK35QOetAoz1CvK2Wz/SxtfsykprWDC0r8gYcrm +AiaIRB+8CubIOyzWUGryxAqGg7TTonbLnuat1Rpbm3w1bk3EXOWaCSecfSg+1GZH/3I rPR6GMb3hXO7r+LaXbH3fK11KmVVVWUIDLTrrOIGiraN5WDP/T6/2dScFuFMPKJpib0s CCXlajN/HASvCdgoH0/yPO7H2Rs5mVJeJ2Cd9HtLfOQG17opjNVIJymasEdLCWHGzsw7 8YhJI+DIMrQXdRCPg/AFEOy3aYwDnLr4Q4LwBAfYaZGow/C9epH1x3unbyymw5xTyRFd 91xw== x62mr2468247oif.61.1413297332786; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 07:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 07:35:02 -0700 (PDT) References: <543D12C7.1040409@comcast.net> <2FDE0DE9CAE64BFDAC746A003C600B00@CharliePC> From: I Erbs Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 07:35:02 -0700 To: Charlie Schott Cc: healeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] Painting the cove Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net paint down to the flange. Bolts should not be painted. You should back them off from time to time and clean out behind the wings (fenders). That's why they are there. if you paint over them you will ruin the paint if you need to unscrew then. Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Charlie Schott wrote: > When painting the cove on a two tone BT7, how far do you go under the > front and rear fenders? And what about the color of the bolt heads? Thanks. > > Regards, > > Charlie Schott > > > > -- > > > ******************************************************************* > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc@ > knology.net _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 08:35:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989182584DFF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:35:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01662584C75 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:34:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.242]) by resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 32dq1p0015E3ZMc012e3YE; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:38:03 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-057v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.67]) by resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 32e21p00Y1TddKW012e2er; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:38:03 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:38:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: I Erbs References: <543D12C7.1040409@comcast.net> <2FDE0DE9CAE64BFDAC746A003C600B00@CharliePC> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Painting the cove Thread-Index: yhiPl1w3ETfrcWQLlmkCGtftv9mXwQ== s=q20140121; t=1413297483; bh=bcj1mTsd1B8dkkkn2lLH2NE682SBQpZeS3Cd6TomaJA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=DzJrNT9R0p4DM9vN00fJgKefmyXX70m868Ue09Psb0J+C5OhK63FC3ifnxw7XQVW0 j9xxDFTOh2vssMC9bHdLyys1kvdWthY5QcnUTUHC61FqLsrLEt9DaDen4bEjUshwZ1 faf43AsoPS7H/9fTB7f0Xob9u5AqNH4L3m9GCoKVJglEloHSSOjHFwlkgzNbF/RQB/ s0r0qE9WF3AE1LpTUjTle9g7iPs2OYHf/QZhHz8poD06r/OlpXqFndv7zf7FqbuEui VzqJb1NlDvvaXVy0ZjySh0j2aIhROoL/ZQC4PXqs2rnaZbJNd53D36Xqi/DnZIeX6a ILCFaCZBxIKQA== Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Painting the cove Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Makes a lot of sense; in fact, we painted our BN2 in pieces then assembled so the bolt heads are not painted. But, is that how it was done at the (Jensen?) factory? Bob ----- Original Message ----- paint down to the flange. Bolts should not be painted. You should back them off from time to time and clean out behind the wings (fenders). That's why they are there. if you paint over them you will ruin the paint if you need to unscrew then. Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Charlie Schott < schottc@knology.net > wrote: When painting the cove on a two tone BT7, how far do you go under the front and rear fenders? And what about the color of the bolt heads? Thanks. Regards, Charlie Schott _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 09:00:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78182584DF4 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:00:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.161.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841B62584C75 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:00:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nk11p00mm-spool002.mac.com ([17.158.161.99]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTP id <0NDF00IY9WH01960@nk11p00mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for healeys@autox.team.net; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:03:34 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-14_06:2014-10-14,2014-10-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410140148 Received: from localhost ([17.158.237.78]) by nk11p00mm-spool002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0NDF00HJUWHOOC70@nk11p00mm-spool002.mac.com> for healeys@autox.team.net; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:03:24 +0000 (GMT) To: healeys@autox.team.net From: Steven Kingsbury Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:03:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net On Wednesday, October 1st I installed an all aluminum radiator in my BN1 100. On Saturday, October 4th I went on a 200 mile plus journey from the valley floor in northern California up to 8500 feet elevation at the summit of Mount Lassen and then back into the valley. The temperature in the valley was about 95 degrees F and going up in to the mountains, I got stuck behind a motor home and on a very twisty, steep, hot and slow road, that's where I got my hottest, a little under 200 degrees! The rest of the trip I ranged from 150 degrees to 190! I'm not even going to count the 120 I got coming down out of the mountains! All in all, it's the best thing I've ever done for my car. The radiator was made by Wizardo;? out of New York, I got it off of eBay and other than them sending me the wrong radiator to begin with, (which they did straighten out), I would highly recommend their work and product. NFI, just happy with what it's done to my car. Didn't have to change a thing in the car and it bolted right in! Sweet! Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 09:14:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D592584E7F for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:14:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162492584DF4 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:12:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.102]) by resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 33Ew1p0092D5gil013FGXm; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:15:16 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-057v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.67]) by resomta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 33FF1p00o1TddKW013FGe8; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:15:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:15:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: Steven Kingsbury References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Aluminum Radiator Thread-Index: 7rYtKX/ynrX6rKyaSSWMVN/3Wvy/5w== s=q20140121; t=1413299716; bh=lGkxuGluj5z5/STQPXWSiSZPOsHwjXYBQtRiS8vukkw=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=CICIkZS7S2YNAJ6E9bYR8LKqkgKWSlC4ZtI/HgBqOAKw/IYTqfAWrvlV9xOVBb9Jj EofcJsKTakCXJakk7P/hQ12wmOeJNsZTpell5Rt9pVa5x0urr0SfFetZ/zAjclKRFV TOjJPB6Z/BarRfjRvz+l4qZT/n3zzL6C7rGTWTv8e21RDH6bhOndH1TWYtJTPLBi1k OfpuQyjv3dz9qSro0G5WeD1tT9+x5vC2Meedu9wyDBREoS/sRuPhv6SUqiOsaRlxb5 VuQIM3qJzpoP63v+l+QPz4aNApJD8keybkFcwdTRDMVUlC4Dy2ouBaS9g9ZrvjGViW N/HvSLIOhBwMQ== Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Cool :) FWIW, that's pretty much how my BJ8 behaves with a stock radiator and Texas Cooler fan. Are you running a stock BN1 fan? On a side note, does anyone know why our cars routinely run under the thermostat set point? For example, I have a 180degF thermostat in my BJ8, and on not-hot days on the freeway it may run around 160degF. Under warmer conditions with more of a load it'll hold 180 until stuck in traffic, etc. then goes up 10-20 degrees. The thermostat should stay closed until reaching the set point--e.g. 180--then open and maintain that temperature until the the radiator can no longer, well, radiate all the heat produced by the engine. Is it possible our engines are being air-cooled enough to stay under the thermostat set point under benign temp and load conditions? Bob ----- Original Message ----- On Wednesday, October 1st I installed an all aluminum radiator in my BN1 100. On Saturday, October 4th I went on a 200 mile plus journey from the valley floor in northern California up to 8500 feet elevation at the summit of Mount Lassen and then back into the valley. The temperature in the valley was about 95 degrees F and going up in to the mountains, I got stuck behind a motor home and on a very twisty, steep, hot and slow road, that's where I got my hottest, a little under 200 degrees! The rest of the trip I ranged from 150 degrees to 190! I'm not even going to count the 120 I got coming down out of the mountains! All in all, it's the best thing I've ever done for my car. The radiator was made by Wizardo;? out of New York, I got it off of eBay and other than them sending me the wrong radiator to begin with, (which they did straighten out), I would highly recommend their work and product. NFI, just happy with what it's done to my car. Didn't have to change a thing in the car and it bolted right in! Sweet! Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 10:03:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0B52584EAC for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:03:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f177.google.com (mail-qc0-f177.google.com [209.85.216.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EFF2584E55 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:02:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id c9so6964758qcz.36 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:05:48 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=S1kNPq9H5AdT1FaHZqSfL0vwqNliLodx42W1StnORsY=; b=U0NHwT+EGffO/ngYyMIQFI9YKa6+EAJzSWnpE4tI+bluNoaW6Fb4IhR75thpVHeSn8 kPJxBuk2/ICH2vIvTkdWA79p0giKNE/vfcrEE3weFhgqtkqz8ZCMGByPq4o9n5OWEkxT uSMGWyV31qLmoQENcgXGTJrbaDkRPRwzhWpAb/RzWEvSy13+On94sxNVa4AslT1HNiGq wUzozDUSEvxun4r/vVL+CunCu+pLnJdTAPVMnT705EFDoExoEpnofbJSz4TmdszNr9LF 1y6v3/QPDi2WLsWip7dxj9Sx8hx3UFtmXbdWLCgW4KF10citIq6Xy+bWwIA265OUzDH4 0egA== Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.136.199 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:05:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <543D12C7.1040409@comcast.net> <2FDE0DE9CAE64BFDAC746A003C600B00@CharliePC> <1982630363.9333620.1413297482697.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:05:48 -0700 From: Curtis Arndt To: Bob Spidell Cc: healeys , I Erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] Painting the cove Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Charlie, Regarding the bolt heads on the wings, they were painted at the factory since the entire body was painted assembled at Jensen, and not how we restore the cars today, and painted in pieces. Curt On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Makes a lot of sense; in fact, we painted our BN2 in pieces then assembled > so the bolt heads are not painted. But, is that how it was done at the > (Jensen?) factory? > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > paint down to the flange. Bolts should not be painted. You should back > them off from time to time and clean out behind the wings (fenders). That's > why they are there. if you paint over them you will ruin the paint if you > need to unscrew then. > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) > (_________________________) > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Charlie Schott < schottc@knology.net > > wrote: > > > When painting the cove on a two tone BT7, how far do you go under the > front and rear fenders? And what about the color of the bolt heads? Thanks. > > Regards, > > Charlie Schott > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 10:29:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A062584B34 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep44.mx.upcmail.net (fep44.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030A025803CC for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:22:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe44-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141014162522.LONK32747.viepfeppe44-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:25:22 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 34RM1p01y0Hh4wo014RMof; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:25:22 +0200 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:25:19 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <422511233.9374990.1413299715809.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net In general the temperature should be more or less constant under any condition, just slightly above the opening temperature of the thermostat. If the temperature shows to be lower than the thermostat opening temperature the thermostat is at fault or is the wrong type (it should be of the sleeved type), assuming the heater is turned off. If very cold, with the heater plus heater fan on maximum, the temperature could drop below the opening temperature of the thermostat. If the temperature increases significantly the cooling capacity is insufficient because of blockages/dirt, faulty water pump or the wrong radiator capacity. Older cars can have insufficient cooling capacity at low speeds/engine revs, hence the advise to fit a thermostatically controlled electric fan when the car is used in modern traffic. Kees Oudesluijs Bob Spidell schreef op 14-10-2014 17:15: > Cool :) FWIW, that's pretty much how my BJ8 behaves with a stock radiator and Texas Cooler fan. Are you running a stock BN1 fan? > > On a side note, does anyone know why our cars routinely run under the thermostat set point? For example, I have a 180degF thermostat in my BJ8, and on not-hot days on the freeway it may run around 160degF. Under warmer conditions with more of a load it'll hold 180 until stuck in traffic, etc. then goes up 10-20 degrees. The thermostat should stay closed until reaching the set point--e.g. 180--then open and maintain that temperature until the the radiator can no longer, well, radiate all the heat produced by the engine. Is it possible our engines are being air-cooled enough to stay under the thermostat set point under benign temp and load conditions? > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > On Wednesday, October 1st I installed an all aluminum radiator in my BN1 100. > On > Saturday, October 4th I went on a 200 mile plus journey from the valley floor > in > northern California up to 8500 feet elevation at the summit of Mount > Lassen and then back into the valley. The temperature in the valley > was about 95 degrees F and going up in to the mountains, I got stuck > behind a motor home and on a very twisty, steep, hot and slow road, > that's where I got my hottest, a little under 200 degrees! The rest of > the trip I ranged from 150 degrees to 190! I'm not even going to count > the 120 I got coming down out of the mountains! > All in all, it's the best thing I've ever done for my car. The > radiator was made by Wizardo;? out of New York, I got it off of eBay and other > than > them sending me the wrong radiator to begin with, (which they did > straighten out), I would highly recommend their work and product. NFI, > just happy with what it's done to my car. Didn't have to change a > thing in the car and it bolted right in! Sweet! > Steven Kingsbury > BN1 #598 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8387 - datum van uitgifte: 10/14/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 10:44:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C162584D61 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f49.google.com (mail-qg0-f49.google.com [209.85.192.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1F22584BF5 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:40:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id e89so3000115qgf.36 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:44:08 -0700 (PDT) s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=xSGd3ZHPSwsiXymDLgxmhRY+PzO03xxQOkOPwEJEuHg=; b=Cka/IqGi63ZfQj85+bEepa4b5b71SmqmxU3Nq7Vn/8t4Sad7N+yZiCr9xoU6pE/fy4 d9lhYknrDd4tgbsDI03a99NLE4h5yOwgDmL2MhYgnZbY8Qy7igzBqp0H1nrq5hfiG4Wn f+PjedxBxrnhhHb31gpbU8Wo08a4tjaRNWYHQ= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=xSGd3ZHPSwsiXymDLgxmhRY+PzO03xxQOkOPwEJEuHg=; b=K5SsH4fXM5TgtHGeiTWzyawKn9mL+SRucU4mWC9FndAfOJPmrOVAu2xxF03JlYVCeq HigIB/cifOACMC9nw63I3N84H7k7Ds9KANnj85TiI24KdnbsAOD/8ISUBWqn62QlUzhl i+yG8GgVqo+ZBnrLWbKIOuGYp3qy3pQr6p6HanXvIB6+cqpMVYTwOGnkmCUiigJQ0fuM 1+iWx7ywDy0HNr7oIzRrn0O59SIo7PJqW6O8rgTTwe6kthJLwngoF3FUthinaGckJjyP i4mQiOEhOcy4hh9ks3FiyOWalCYEm8gGVQwMY1cjV6TBwsqV55YbbXgV2LH5Rx7Jfp8/ 3wvg== m66mr9995501qge.17.1413305048750; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.204.6 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:43:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Leeks Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:43:28 +0100 To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Prices Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Ira makes a good point. I had my rather scratty old 100/6 insured for years for #12k. Last year my broker advised me to up it #20k! It's still scratty and, no, the premium didn't increase a lot :-) Paul Leeks Lancashire 100/6 BN4 > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:53:52 -0700 > From: I Erbs > Cc: Ahealey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Prices > Message-ID: > < > CACPMnYprMnSf14XgQ1kTPzuvzDaF8rXp8nXcn3gZWUN+nvPebg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > IMHO we are in am investment bubble. Can't earn much money in bank savings, > the upper class is making money faster than they can spend it, so > investment in cars seems to be the current focus. Yes they are going up. So > be sure to up your agreed upon values of your cars. I raise mine a min of > 5% each year, but have boosted it as much as 15% and Hagerty has not pushed > back. > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > _______ _______ > > -- EMAIL DISCLAIMER Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Glasgows.It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. Accordingly, the copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this message to any other person may constitute a breach of civil or criminal law. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this email by mistake and delete it from your system. Glasgows is a trading style of R Glasgow & Associates Public Relations Limited. Registered in England & Wales No. 2257022. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 10:46:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D562584C62 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59BF2584BF5 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:43:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.228]) by resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 34m01p0044vw8ds014n3Fn; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:47:03 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-057v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.67]) by resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 34n31p0081TddKW014n3m0; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:47:03 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:47:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: Oudesluys References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <422511233.9374990.1413299715809.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <543D4E6F.20708@chello.nl> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Running Temps--Was: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Thread-Index: 8F/4HxhQ+gbyqTlXKudhekmFkLaVzg== s=q20140121; t=1413305223; bh=k0m24Siskjaxtpcgqw15tH4ldnQYq1T4GiCPkpT9Q7I=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=vfW3P8h53ruZjF3ltdHbw0Oc2vMqEuAIVntM5oU/RI/qy6XVmaiTdiyCn6L4J8PrW sxZbZkBcsiHhK78xYYb/rJc9X6CJH0qKxRSMxHnrC4/alVVYJ77VtvFxv/T/dg6ro2 FJS+61CEfpOrr1H8vHQL85COfQpaBVr/GfElK39U6DLuOd1Sc3yPnz7trJUn3IAGle ddPLmdVxN+IBQ78L1m1GdQNqLMSRRa0ggMJwsWk/aeu+oOSqPsTiL6pY6g/q2mlUV/ hvVwlVqOIBT78azUpWVx5KrV5VvjL7vjnBSsTkJ7my8AdSIaJ+8suRfRzPS43yDNqd 7h75oxakAzCEw== Cc: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Running Temps--Was: Re: Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Agreed. I am using a (modern) sleeved-type thermostat, have a calibrated gauge and have tried several thermostats (I tested a couple on the stove and they functioned as expected). Still, my BJ8 engine will run below the thermostat set point on a cool day with light load--I would expect the coolant temp even under those conditions to rise to nominal, but it doesn't. Our BN2 behaves the same way. The only comparison I can think of is air-cooled aircraft engines, which usually have an oil cooler. There is a valve called a Vernatherm--essentially a bi-metal strip--that closes off oil flow to the oil cooler radiator to allow the engine to warm to operating temperature before the cooler is brought 'online.' But, an air-cooled engine can dissipate a lot more heat than an Austin lump. Is it possible the huge chunk of iron in front could be 'self-cooling' to a point then, beyond that point, even with wide-open thermostat, cannot maintain a set temperature? My guess is that at speed there is sufficient airflow to cool the engine--even below the thermostat set point--but once stuck in traffic or with a load there isn't enough excess airflow and the cooling system's capability is exceeded (as Kees mentioned). Bob ----- Original Message ----- In general the temperature should be more or less constant under any condition, just slightly above the opening temperature of the thermostat. If the temperature shows to be lower than the thermostat opening temperature the thermostat is at fault or is the wrong type (it should be of the sleeved type), assuming the heater is turned off. If very cold, with the heater plus heater fan on maximum, the temperature could drop below the opening temperature of the thermostat. If the temperature increases significantly the cooling capacity is insufficient because of blockages/dirt, faulty water pump or the wrong radiator capacity. Older cars can have insufficient cooling capacity at low speeds/engine revs, hence the advise to fit a thermostatically controlled electric fan when the car is used in modern traffic. Kees Oudesluijs _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 10:50:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EC02584BAD for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:50:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554D02584B98 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:50:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from MikeE6230 ([unknown] [100.0.162.77]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDG00LJT1LDIFF0@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for healeys@autox.team.net; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:53:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Garvey" To: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:53:53 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac/nz2/BqtWikB47QDK/OIDEyoW7hA== Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Lock Plate R&R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The door lock plate (Moss terms) on my BJ8 needs work: the round pin is worn and loose on its mount. I can buy a replacement lock plate; my question has to do with the anatomy of the fasteners inside what I think is called the "shut pillar". Before I remove the screws that hold the lock plate on, I want to be sure that they don't fall into some deep crevice. Advice welcome.. Thanks, Mike Michael Garvey 1967 BJ8/38046 Swampscott, MA _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 11:00:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002CD2584C45 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:00:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87F52584B98 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:00:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.226]) by resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 353R1p0024tLnxL0153gcs; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:03:40 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-057v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.67]) by resomta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 353g1p00H1TddKW0153gzU; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:03:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:03:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: Mike Garvey References: <077501cfe7cf$7038f060$50aad120$@net> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: BJ8 Door Lock Plate R&R Thread-Index: Ac/nz2/BqtWikB47QDK/OIDEyoW7hBa8AeTU s=q20140121; t=1413306220; bh=JMnRZU+t+xIBB/qo+KoygKlf6OsthFTEEFs1CF6SyT4=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=pKW2YEDlTFSpdgh7r4xNR/Gm94T3nQ5HFFyUs01IJ8KGihuIGpqymQj7q+BR/FW5b H2NwxnYKx1/Es1oig9ucGrj3HyIWh6pyDCof3guLjWrxA3psmSHDsgl8EZXXvJMXQb qGZq2vanXlhPi1NyxXZQ7dZ0gaaJfvCUZ9XraeJTkiJjgvdvdat9FnfnXRG6yzN7vo VgByZ3K8EZ7V/0IgIhJeVJ0nziOEVjuVP0xRYUlGHW8VzkNi88CBzcCW/x8+pMqWT2 jb7/0X774cfODHlHOpMUXHteLChWhH78oD5OaSvsNHY6FPjaR+LU9754Vfigk0/LNu WSsMKq5ZhM9gQ== Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Lock Plate R&R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, If you're referring to the large, Posidrive screws they are retained by a captive, tapped nut plate behind the shut pillar. It won't fall out, but slides around a little. Bob ----- Original Message ----- The door lock plate (Moss terms) on my BJ8 needs work: the round pin is worn and loose on its mount. I can buy a replacement lock plate; my question has to do with the anatomy of the fasteners inside what I think is called the "shut pillar". Before I remove the screws that hold the lock plate on, I want to be sure that they don't fall into some deep crevice. Advice welcome.. Thanks, Mike Michael Garvey 1967 BJ8/38046 Swampscott, MA _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 11:01:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309812584BBD for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:01:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from smtp474.redcondor.net (smtp474.redcondor.net [208.80.204.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACB52584D91 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailproxy1.av-mx.com ([137.118.16.133]) by smtp474.redcondor.net ({5f66a499-b734-4e2f-a09c-c2eb2297d85d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20141014170345990 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:03:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.109] (unknown [137.118.194.7]) (Authenticated sender: javrugtman@htcnet.org) by mailproxy1.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C32BE88A034 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:03:41 -0400 From: John Vrugtman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <077501cfe7cf$7038f060$50aad120$@net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Lock Plate R&R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net There is a tapped steel plate behind the shut pillar, it can be reached from inside the fender well. John BJ8s On 10/14/2014 12:53 PM, Mike Garvey wrote: > The door lock plate (Moss terms) on my BJ8 needs work: the round pin is worn > and loose on its mount. I can buy a replacement lock plate; my question has > to do with the anatomy of the fasteners inside what I think is called the > "shut pillar". Before I remove the screws that hold the lock plate on, I > want to be sure that they don't fall into some deep crevice. > Advice welcome.. > Thanks, Mike > > Michael Garvey > 1967 BJ8/38046 > Swampscott, MA > _______________________________________________ > S _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 11:30:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E33A2584C6E for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF72C258458E for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:24:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com [172.27.3.207]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 111D170031618; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lqa04c.mail.aol.com (core-lqa04.mail.aol.com [10.76.8.14]) by mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0309B38000094; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:27:38 -0400 (EDT) References: <20141014083008.FIEO4.3761.root@pamxwww10-z01> To: tomfelts@windstream.net, bspidell@comcast.net, healeys@autox.team.net From: Jim Werner Received: from 74.132.234.112 by webmail-vm022.sysops.aol.com (149.174.156.100) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:27:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:27:38 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413307662; bh=Dy3g7oE/I5oMt+vFFnyvl7a0LYJB2yCViH/DR2wpxXI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K21FVXKAAraarT8MgyJN7XbFdRSkbJAUIKc1TZLw20fEvAidVsIYrTQB9sVE1aY1Z 01n7zTv568lxOyNGGq7DCuUx6yIJxZB1gVb8a9Cn4LWP45K/k4aS3qpQvouPnpxMj8 bf7d9XqsNbS7xbTcxBxWOsXRfVp7ued9zlEJdIug= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b03cf543d5d0a6041 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars 100M Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net He has been active on Facebook and everything is going well with his life. Jim Werner -----Original Message----- From: Tom Felts To: Bob Spidell ; healeylist Sent: Tue, Oct 14, 2014 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars 100M He lives in Hong Kong----maybe caught up in all the fuss going on over there. tom ---- Bob Spidell wrote: ============= On an episode I saw last night Wayne inspected and picked-up a red/black 100M. He mostly got the info correct, but was suspicious that the car did not have the small 'M' on the grill flash. I've read they weren't always installed, and may have been a 'bonus' for preferred customers, or it could have fallen off at some time. At any rate, it was a beautiful car with only 35K miles and original paint. They should show the sale in a later episode; if I miss it maybe someone could report the sale price. I'm guessing $200K or better (especially if it goes to auction). On another note, anyone heard from Alan Seigrist? He used to be a regular poster but haven't heard from him in a while. Bob -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts@windstream.net _______________________________________________ Archive: Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwhlyadv@aol.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 12:03:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C746B2584F39 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:03:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763752584DA2 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so8706346lbg.0 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JRSoh+oVhpwOV3xGfOezELSk2xQZSq9V5FDwKZbDHjw=; b=h3Ihm2stRtobNCm8PHzC8OBuWdf1FkacLQJ4qN440CmcrTPWfdCa0aV0b5WkNSEZb2 VN7bqdJV7mpbc6ALP74GvPHu5RReqopkcz19O4igojxlLAQ4AhIAeMgNHHu4nHI1pIEH y59OB/ls4naRKkR1+x/lLze9lvW4NNkRXPxrxd1JfVOCT6LaI92dYov8cD0L4pixPf7b CSSj8euDaxCZAfCSckv4Mnk2acVGM2wbHW1z0N4ha4yDVJYJXz2j2QXUI8LOsW7hcuU5 8eViRRA0hc/3W3jzvQqxMCx+SDboWuaUtCPjvjgYKltGBb1nZXy6kX2mvS6th18zeO65 WngA== qh2mr7118630lbc.5.1413309835268; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.196 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) References: <077501cfe7cf$7038f060$50aad120$@net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:03:55 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: Mike Garvey Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Lock Plate R&R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net If Mike is using Moss terms then the plate that he is referring to is on the door not the door post. The plate with the sliding shoe which is held to the door post by two countersunk Phillips screws is the striker. The lock plate(s) [original part numbers AHB9532/3] are secured to the door, together with the door lock (the thing with the rotating horseshoe catch on it), by four 3/16 countersunk screws. I believe that there are cage nuts welded into the rear frame of the door but it is a long time since I had one of those apart so perhaps there is someone out there who could confirm that for Mike. *From memory* I believe Mike is correct to be a little cautious because if the caged nuts turn in their cages they are somewhat difficult to access. Michael S BN1 #174 On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Mike Garvey wrote: > The door lock plate (Moss terms) on my BJ8 needs work: the round pin is > worn > and loose on its mount. I can buy a replacement lock plate; my question > has > to do with the anatomy of the fasteners inside what I think is called the > "shut pillar". Before I remove the screws that hold the lock plate on, I > want to be sure that they don't fall into some deep crevice. > Advice welcome.. > Thanks, Mike > > Michael Garvey > 1967 BJ8/38046 > Swampscott, MA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 12:48:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E162584DA6 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:48:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179B225805E8 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:48:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from MikeE6230 ([unknown] [100.0.162.77]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDG0055R71QJ660@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for healeys@autox.team.net; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:51:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Garvey" To: References: <077501cfe7cf$7038f060$50aad120$@net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:51:42 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac/n2TiRu861WqloSjafTmBRTleMfQABo99Q Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Lock Plate R&R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry I was not clear; the part that I am referring to is not on the door. I think I have enough info to proceed. Thanks to all. Mike From: michael.salter@gmail.com [mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:04 PM To: Mike Garvey Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Lock Plate R&R If Mike is using Moss terms then the plate that he is referring to is on the door not the door post. The plate with the sliding shoe which is held to the door post by two countersunk Phillips screws is the striker. The lock plate(s) [original part numbers AHB9532/3] are secured to the door, together with the door lock (the thing with the rotating horseshoe catch on it), by four 3/16 countersunk screws. I believe that there are cage nuts welded into the rear frame of the door but it is a long time since I had one of those apart so perhaps there is someone out there who could confirm that for Mike. >From memory I believe Mike is correct to be a little cautious because if the caged nuts turn in their cages they are somewhat difficult to access. Michael S BN1 #174 On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Mike Garvey wrote: The door lock plate (Moss terms) on my BJ8 needs work: the round pin is worn and loose on its mount. I can buy a replacement lock plate; my question has to do with the anatomy of the fasteners inside what I think is called the "shut pillar". Before I remove the screws that hold the lock plate on, I want to be sure that they don't fall into some deep crevice. Advice welcome.. Thanks, Mike Michael Garvey 1967 BJ8/38046 Swampscott, MA Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 13:15:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F712584C67 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:15:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0318C25805E8 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:15:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.24.228.133] ([98.24.228.133:51687] helo=KeithPC) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id F8/04-23176-5177D345; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:18:45 +0000 From: "BJ8Healeys" To: "'healeys'" References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <422511233.9374990.1413299715809.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:18:28 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/n46IDcZdZ+YKAQCeUc4r0FOnIzA== Content-Language: en-us a=MGGFJy2pHiY+kO9Gui1ZQQ==:117 a=MGGFJy2pHiY+kO9Gui1ZQQ==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=WiHUNbgj_d_yQ-Lt9ogA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I have a radiator with a modern core in my BJ8. It is really the only thing I've ever found that would keep the temperature down in the cooling system. I also have a NOS AC sleeved thermostat (thanks, Kees!) rated at 187 deg. F. After the installation of the radiator, my car routinely has run between 170 and 180 on the road unless it's a really hot day or in a traffic backup and it might then go 190 - 200 for a short period but drops down quickly with more airflow through the radiator. With the sleeved thermostat, I can also see the thing function. For about the first 50 miles, the temp needle will move toward 190 and as soon as it gets there it will drop back to about 160. It continues cycling until a stable temperature is reached, typically 170 - 180. I guess the modern core can cool sufficiently to keep the thermostat mostly closed under coolish ambient conditions. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:15 AM To: Steven Kingsbury Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Cool :) FWIW, that's pretty much how my BJ8 behaves with a stock radiator and Texas Cooler fan. Are you running a stock BN1 fan? On a side note, does anyone know why our cars routinely run under the thermostat set point? For example, I have a 180degF thermostat in my BJ8, and on not-hot days on the freeway it may run around 160degF. Under warmer conditions with more of a load it'll hold 180 until stuck in traffic, etc. then goes up 10-20 degrees. The thermostat should stay closed until reaching the set point--e.g. 180--then open and maintain that temperature until the the radiator can no longer, well, radiate all the heat produced by the engine. Is it possible our engines are being air-cooled enough to stay under the thermostat set point under benign temp and load conditions? Bob _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 13:29:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFB92584DCD for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:29:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f176.google.com (mail-lb0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A64258081D for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:24:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id p9so8984053lbv.35 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:27:43 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UnFzR380fbLX6Q0bzSflORsy8K+zwYAfznHJFANdAmk=; b=GaCuStU2MmiJvaPkzPmImwJ/eTH1nG4ea1SWauPrJyuY7ddPxG2EUPqzi8uMLI4d9X toRD9hbxK8IitOdUWPJx4Q3uZKjQSmqaRVneI+L/ekDBctTB4SaZrp+elelycGuw/9em bW3wyCP+ILQPLnOLarfoeafNaq3aJ4RBNy8snPD0EOhZq5VQyaZdiwJxatVQtlvwfjFl EXPPNI/ubUiLn+txS9I+SZPwOKf3wSChjV0DMOCchGo9FoZSybkQFXFPDVQ2EA7yGXvu jyKyFAb7n3t2MTpZNWECSFncB+dal/JAlnPByCBZXNg0y8s5M7Hxt5sBe8QQdaqEpI1G Q5eg== eq8mr7424885lbb.57.1413314863558; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.196 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:27:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <422511233.9374990.1413299715809.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <543D4E6F.20708@chello.nl> <1537648624.9474613.1413305223064.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:27:43 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: Bob Spidell Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Running Temps--Was: Re: Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net One factor which I have found makes a surprisingly large difference is the correct installation of the radiator baffles. I have resolved persistent overheating problems in 6 cylinder cars by just ensuring that the hot air from the engine compartment cannot make its way around to the front of the radiator.. It's worth a try and a lot less expensive than an aluminium radiator. Michael S BN1 #174 On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Agreed. I am using a (modern) sleeved-type thermostat, have a calibrated > gauge and have tried several thermostats (I tested a couple on the stove > and they functioned as expected). Still, my BJ8 engine will run below the > thermostat set point on a cool day with light load--I would expect the > coolant temp even under those conditions to rise to nominal, but it > doesn't. Our BN2 behaves the same way. > > The only comparison I can think of is air-cooled aircraft engines, which > usually have an oil cooler. There is a valve called a > Vernatherm--essentially a bi-metal strip--that closes off oil flow to the > oil cooler radiator to allow the engine to warm to operating temperature > before the cooler is brought 'online.' But, an air-cooled engine can > dissipate a lot more heat than an Austin lump. > > Is it possible the huge chunk of iron in front could be 'self-cooling' to > a point then, beyond that point, even with wide-open thermostat, cannot > maintain a set temperature? My guess is that at speed there is sufficient > airflow to cool the engine--even below the thermostat set point--but once > stuck in traffic or with a load there isn't enough excess airflow and the > cooling system's capability is exceeded (as Kees mentioned). > > Bob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > In general the temperature should be more or less constant under any > condition, just slightly above the opening temperature of the > thermostat. If the temperature shows to be lower than the thermostat > opening temperature the thermostat is at fault or is the wrong type (it > should be of the sleeved type), assuming the heater is turned off. If > very cold, with the heater plus heater fan on maximum, the temperature > could drop below the opening temperature of the thermostat. > If the temperature increases significantly the cooling capacity is > insufficient because of blockages/dirt, faulty water pump or the wrong > radiator capacity. > Older cars can have insufficient cooling capacity at low speeds/engine > revs, hence the advise to fit a thermostatically controlled electric fan > when the car is used in modern traffic. > Kees Oudesluijs > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 18:45:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6A22580B24 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:45:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f179.google.com (mail-qc0-f179.google.com [209.85.216.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6924625808D7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:41:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x3so191190qcv.10 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WvhL1ceUR6crFqdeYWmO122KzkiqoFhUWpHYrEtENGc=; b=NXjrE/BGUFAgGtOy/D5hzpfWTzBRjAUjtUKcNJBaqY9ox//CuF276Q6m7RmHAtxk1Q ftpWrDL7VfCeTll22R12XFnasPAFZ3BtF5v7BRtKvpKDUfjbvMO4Y2sAzpm+/57n+K7G zcd1dyu3a9Juu0Od4m+i4Rb2bgnByMNm7kvGIVPuh4ZliKHoNwZGFSKBfIDnLPhEHyWb S52DvoZK+WIrsD0Sy+FFWlgPO+FcovhRV6BkGNtNewaU3QYbYv/0SZYDkPetjiBgBiLk nTvAiNL2W8xDtVv/K3RKZiw12GEuX5Nc82WAQyQDbP4IPUXGRom/7ZPH1NuxtHMdEd8q F/AA== b16mr15039969qaw.102.1413333887419; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.92.149 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT) References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <422511233.9374990.1413299715809.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <09be01cfe7e3$a29993c0$e7ccbb40$@rr.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:44:47 -0400 From: Tom To: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I had my radiator re-cored with a modern core, and my car's temps run around 180-190 at speed, even climbing the hills on I-89 in NH. In his Tech Talk book, Norman Nock suggested adding a third blade to our two-blade fans to move more air a low speeds. Anyone tried this and seen much improvement in stop and go driving? - Tom > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob > Spidell > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:15 AM > To: Steven Kingsbury > Cc: healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator > > Cool :) FWIW, that's pretty much how my BJ8 behaves with a stock radiator > and Texas Cooler fan. Are you running a stock BN1 fan? > > On a side note, does anyone know why our cars routinely run under the > thermostat set point? For example, I have a 180degF thermostat in my BJ8, > and on not-hot days on the freeway it may run around 160degF. Under warmer > conditions with more of a load it'll hold 180 until stuck in traffic, etc. > then goes up 10-20 degrees. The thermostat should stay closed until > reaching > the set point--e.g. 180--then open and maintain that temperature until the > the radiator can no longer, well, radiate all the heat produced by the > engine. Is it possible our engines are being air-cooled enough to stay > under > the thermostat set point under benign temp and load conditions? > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah3000me@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 19:15:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE97425844C9 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:15:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A18422580972 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:14:31 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1413335862; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Cc:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=mV6CbKdUMDdRRepBg+prne+2omBlFd3J9THMET+F6YTYhPb/vv93AGevFNb4CBTfI Yiyljv5MiK6vuhlKd4a8FnnVdonV+2Wb1AdTqSc6IEV/rSWmNZoJMqLikvc/vPr9w+ +4yJZhnWC5AyLPnCOyqeMgaqKDo1KNexQOkdWwWg= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop01.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.21]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABLD5U2WAEAYLEJ for (sender ); Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:17:08 -0700 (PDT) To: ah3000me@gmail.com Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:16:00 -0700 From: Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net No but it sounds logical. RDP. 1961 BT7. On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:44:47 -0400 Tom writes: > I had my radiator re-cored with a modern core, and my car's temps > run > around 180-190 at speed, even climbing the hills on I-89 in NH. > > In his Tech Talk book, Norman Nock suggested adding a third blade to > our > two-blade fans to move more air a low speeds. Anyone tried this > and seen > much improvement in stop and go driving? > > - Tom > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Bob > > Spidell > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:15 AM > > To: Steven Kingsbury > > Cc: healeys > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator > > > > Cool :) FWIW, that's pretty much how my BJ8 behaves with a stock > radiator > > and Texas Cooler fan. Are you running a stock BN1 fan? > > > > On a side note, does anyone know why our cars routinely run under > the > > thermostat set point? For example, I have a 180degF thermostat in > my BJ8, > > and on not-hot days on the freeway it may run around 160degF. > Under warmer > > conditions with more of a load it'll hold 180 until stuck in > traffic, etc. > > then goes up 10-20 degrees. The thermostat should stay closed > until > > reaching > > the set point--e.g. 180--then open and maintain that temperature > until the > > the radiator can no longer, well, radiate all the heat produced by > the > > engine. Is it possible our engines are being air-cooled enough to > stay > > under > > the thermostat set point under benign temp and load conditions? > > > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah3000me@gmail.com > _____________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rd_parker@juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ Odd Trick Fights Diabetes "Unique" Proven Method To Control Blood Sugar In 3 Weeks. Watch Video. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/543dcb14576644b14693bst03vuc _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 19:38:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C434725844FC for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:38:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail15.tpgi.com.au (mail15.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5572580930 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:37:49 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1413337259; bh=3ZRo5gn/T8iEXzhaCYO8huEOa6P/RjhkpBzA9s3DQew=; h=X-TPG-Abuse:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=alfDxQ+e4NNNYsZWIwtOKAmH+ZYiJDzBOPf2cI+gNGeFoUzjI0xbEMm9/sFxClTa+ Rlwu/dRxXCGyV2IGIKW7j60ggT23N+Gl2YWyOIZ+PmcPzOze8iCMz3AzW94R2wNPaw sqtdcf4Gv3Pv9UtBcZrHlwM3PLQd0FjjAFLbAGTs= date=Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:40:58 +1100 Received: from PatrickQuinnPC (60-241-154-199.static.tpgi.com.au [60.241.154.199]) by mail15.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from p_cquinn@tpg.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s9F1eu4H020318; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:40:58 +1100 From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" To: References: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:41:02 +1100 Thread-Index: AQJpouLsGXD3BysnV9gZVQ7/pWtL+Zr86axQ Content-Language: en-au Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net G'day I seem to recall that if you lived in what BMC called a tropical area (Singapore, Caribbean and so on) and you ordered a new six-cylinder Austin-Healey it came with a tropical radiator fan which consisted of three double-ended blades for an increased air flow. The big problem with all production six-cylinder Austin-Healeys was that from the earliest BN4 through to the last BJ8 they were all fitted with the same size and capacity radiator. So how did BMC engineers deal with the heat generated through an increase in horsepower from 102bhp to 148bhp? As the power increased so did the pressure rating of the radiator cap. Unfortunately once the Austin-Healey was assembled at Abingdon it became second cousin to the MG and minimal development money was spent on the marque. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rd_parker@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2014 12:16 PM To: ah3000me@gmail.com Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator No but it sounds logical. RDP. 1961 BT7. On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:44:47 -0400 Tom writes: > I had my radiator re-cored with a modern core, and my car's temps run > around 180-190 at speed, even climbing the hills on I-89 in NH. > > In his Tech Talk book, Norman Nock suggested adding a third blade to > our > two-blade fans to move more air a low speeds. Anyone tried this > and seen > much improvement in stop and go driving? > > - Tom > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Bob > > Spidell > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:15 AM > > To: Steven Kingsbury > > Cc: healeys > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator > > > > Cool :) FWIW, that's pretty much how my BJ8 behaves with a stock > radiator > > and Texas Cooler fan. Are you running a stock BN1 fan? > > > > On a side note, does anyone know why our cars routinely run under > the > > thermostat set point? For example, I have a 180degF thermostat in > my BJ8, > > and on not-hot days on the freeway it may run around 160degF. > Under warmer > > conditions with more of a load it'll hold 180 until stuck in > traffic, etc. > > then goes up 10-20 degrees. The thermostat should stay closed > until > > reaching > > the set point--e.g. 180--then open and maintain that temperature > until the > > the radiator can no longer, well, radiate all the heat produced by > the > > engine. Is it possible our engines are being air-cooled enough to > stay > > under > > the thermostat set point under benign temp and load conditions? > > > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > > donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah3000me@gmail.com > _____________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rd_parker@juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ Odd Trick Fights Diabetes "Unique" Proven Method To Control Blood Sugar In 3 Weeks. Watch Video. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/543dcb14576644b14693bst03vuc $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn@tpg.com.au _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 00:18:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B103E2584EF3 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:18:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep40.mx.upcmail.net (fep40.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55042580BB0 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:15:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe40-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141015061901.XQTO28860.viepfeppe40-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:19:01 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 3JK01p00v0Hh4wo01JK0JN; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:19:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:18:58 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <422511233.9374990.1413299715809.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <09be01cfe7e3$a29993c0$e7ccbb40$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Steve, where is the temperature sensor on your car as it surprises me that the temp reading is lower than the opening temp of the thermostat. The temp in the tophose/top radiator should be a tad over the opening temp. Kees Oudesluijs BJ8Healeys schreef op 14-10-2014 21:18: > I have a radiator with a modern core in my BJ8. It is really the only thing > I've ever found that would keep the temperature down in the cooling system. > I also have a NOS AC sleeved thermostat (thanks, Kees!) rated at 187 deg. F. > After the installation of the radiator, my car routinely has run between 170 > and 180 on the road unless it's a really hot day or in a traffic backup and > it might then go 190 - 200 for a short period but drops down quickly with > more airflow through the radiator. > With the sleeved thermostat, I can also see the thing function. For about > the first 50 miles, the temp needle will move toward 190 and as soon as it > gets there it will drop back to about 160. It continues cycling until a > stable temperature is reached, typically 170 - 180. I guess the modern core > can cool sufficiently to keep the thermostat mostly closed under coolish > ambient conditions. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > AHCA Delegate at Large > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob > Spidell > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:15 AM > To: Steven Kingsbury > Cc: healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator > > Cool :) FWIW, that's pretty much how my BJ8 behaves with a stock radiator > and Texas Cooler fan. Are you running a stock BN1 fan? > > On a side note, does anyone know why our cars routinely run under the > thermostat set point? For example, I have a 180degF thermostat in my BJ8, > and on not-hot days on the freeway it may run around 160degF. Under warmer > conditions with more of a load it'll hold 180 until stuck in traffic, etc. > then goes up 10-20 degrees. The thermostat should stay closed until reaching > the set point--e.g. 180--then open and maintain that temperature until the > the radiator can no longer, well, radiate all the heat produced by the > engine. Is it possible our engines are being air-cooled enough to stay under > the thermostat set point under benign temp and load conditions? > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8387 - datum van uitgifte: 10/14/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 01:06:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8672584F96 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:06:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f175.google.com (mail-pd0-f175.google.com [209.85.192.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79232580550 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:06:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f175.google.com with SMTP id v10so743918pde.20 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:09:43 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xRZaG4oICZETA9NFD9t/LY933fMWgXznSYfHfbzNv8o=; b=cC6aiwIzZZbjBDxa733xzkWggmuIi6hyWQtvOQrHTECskMmrx3s6uciA9Nraacz1Zk SWFibKveUNCbmarDKQZe2ML+g00VPOvpZzN8Dg/+SRyMRzQz+CBjxr0nBLiUBe2cIbX6 XnR9MyqX6fCjb90MImGsOPq4L/l0HYJVto0TJ8sQPo2cjbM0Q+YlFmuBmUktj+c7ztyB In93NqwYvZFRlAJ1NbT4Hjj9XO4rQn4yoKTBJyIbyQ/dBZWeoy4dmqqzohg7TzzDrlQ3 apqern9nnsWUuMK0qHtk4PPKLuXymgo2UDmiv13HmCxxL3PUzXAN0swWZ81XW8VMizKA aoAw== de7mr10505319pdb.3.1413356982812; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.41.71 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:09:42 -0700 (PDT) References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:09:42 +0800 From: Alan Seigrist To: Steven Kingsbury Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Steven - Glad you had good results, the improvement primarily has to do with the fact the radiator is new. Make sure you have a screen on the intake hose to keep crud out of your ali radiator - ali rads can't be serviced. Whenever my car starts running hot, I just take the radiator out and have it rodded / serviced. Usually does the trick. Also jet hot coating the exhaust manifold helps push the heat out the tail pipe rather than keeping it under the bonnet - particularly useful on very long drives. Best, Alan On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Steven Kingsbury < airtightproductions@icloud.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, October 1st I installed an all aluminum radiator in my BN1 > 100. > On > Saturday, October 4th I went on a 200 mile plus journey from the valley > floor > in > northern California up to 8500 feet elevation at the summit of Mount > Lassen and then back into the valley. The temperature in the valley > was about 95 degrees F and going up in to the mountains, I got stuck > behind a motor home and on a very twisty, steep, hot and slow road, > that's where I got my hottest, a little under 200 degrees! The rest of > the trip I ranged from 150 degrees to 190! I'm not even going to count > the 120 I got coming down out of the mountains! > All in all, it's the best thing I've ever done for my car. The > radiator was made by Wizardo;? out of New York, I got it off of eBay and > other > than > them sending me the wrong radiator to begin with, (which they did > straighten out), I would highly recommend their work and product. NFI, > just happy with what it's done to my car. Didn't have to change a > thing in the car and it bolted right in! Sweet! > Steven Kingsbury > BN1 #598 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 02:18:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9A02585020 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:18:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f43.google.com (mail-qg0-f43.google.com [209.85.192.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46082258456D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:17:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id j107so519160qga.30 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:21:00 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=yti6l9GXUNjcxQKewiKAkix5Rk/jHcNKc1Pf+rhPEcw=; b=GC5xpCMlzba7Oqviacb1yqzVVDifHlu7ZM8aaDtfNOlLD6Nin+NB26W5wBC9bk3zBF GVtf19yn3CgFTdSKEwpY6qqk7LGeupQjyX7T39b/vCrta/SY2+V3JmVupXKQhCARo8UH he4yJbXfdzIw2f9Cv8F0KIouANk882jBCfRrxbE7InyIuiATl+J8Ie11/0JxoSXQC8Us bss/ZeQwgKYpxx9rqu506XKrtJk+wuH6jwg75C7ELdaqboJI+dorC6Yz5+insjiVjhn4 vMrUNObqUvywZZ60/CP1yRc/X7dfVxaz3JYPlxPq2cRVXR3SXHmwXFZeCddNvTVVi2lY BN6Q== v9mr18157413qcb.16.1413361260545; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.96.72 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:21:00 -0700 (PDT) References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:21:00 +0100 From: Derek Job To: Alan Seigrist Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I'm surprised at some of the large variations in temp that people are reporting. My car gets up to temperature and stays there. It might rise slightly when stuck in traffic for a prolonged period. It doesn't drop 20-30 degrees during normal driving. That doesn't sound right to me. Derek On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Steven - > > Glad you had good results, the improvement primarily has to do with the > fact the radiator is new. Make sure you have a screen on the intake hose > to keep crud out of your ali radiator - ali rads can't be serviced. > > Whenever my car starts running hot, I just take the radiator out and have > it rodded / serviced. Usually does the trick. Also jet hot coating the > exhaust manifold helps push the heat out the tail pipe rather than keeping > it under the bonnet - particularly useful on very long drives. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Steven Kingsbury < > airtightproductions@icloud.com> wrote: > > > On Wednesday, October 1st I installed an all aluminum radiator in my BN1 > > 100. > > On > > Saturday, October 4th I went on a 200 mile plus journey from the valley > > floor > > in > > northern California up to 8500 feet elevation at the summit of Mount > > Lassen and then back into the valley. The temperature in the valley > > was about 95 degrees F and going up in to the mountains, I got stuck > > behind a motor home and on a very twisty, steep, hot and slow road, > > that's where I got my hottest, a little under 200 degrees! The rest of > > the trip I ranged from 150 degrees to 190! I'm not even going to count > > the 120 I got coming down out of the mountains! > > All in all, it's the best thing I've ever done for my car. The > > radiator was made by Wizardo;? out of New York, I got it off of eBay and > > other > > than > > them sending me the wrong radiator to begin with, (which they did > > straighten out), I would highly recommend their work and product. NFI, > > just happy with what it's done to my car. Didn't have to change a > > thing in the car and it bolted right in! Sweet! > > Steven Kingsbury > > BN1 #598 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 02:20:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FDB2585047 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:20:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f174.google.com (mail-qc0-f174.google.com [209.85.216.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D922258456D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:20:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m20so549720qcx.5 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:23:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=msi+zll4Qj5imK6jdL0xL8wbZtpn8ZSsVqiQ7Jh4uJM=; b=rQyhtuA4afCS194EQC/oEhbue9E/JDoMGyQa6BY/OV6/EYaRwYkcBm0NsiakrjrJgS CNIRXouCwPr679+r2VEjZd+KBsh1SgxMY+fYOk93cE+pdq5ckuZVayW6aQaK/gp8HXyV yW5i7x+zGvAD0BIb5N2az7IWZzRw6wSlYddAEtacv/3QdEYanrMweYYMHlbb2V2SeGiM W8zEn8fcePbsBu1XytEK1C4vsODg7bQkkc0IHWBoOFd0DDcR1dNfmGg1+w7gi3vGCOJ3 jGjLClbs9B6H8zMYVDBMQCclVpGiHu2TteR0BYuFUzpalleR1D5yhly/Z+7QDl+MOLcE pqZA== j50mr16724778qga.106.1413361415515; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.96.72 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:23:35 -0700 (PDT) References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <422511233.9374990.1413299715809.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <543D4E6F.20708@chello.nl> <1537648624.9474613.1413305223064.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:23:35 +0100 From: Derek Job To: Michael Salter Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Running Temps--Was: Re: Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net An aluminium radiator is actually less efficient than a normal one of a similar design with similar cores. That's just physics. Weight saving is its biggest advantage. Derek On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > One factor which I have found makes a surprisingly large difference is the > correct installation of the radiator baffles. I have resolved persistent > overheating problems in 6 cylinder cars by just ensuring that the hot air > from the engine compartment cannot make its way around to the front of the > radiator.. > It's worth a try and a lot less expensive than an aluminium radiator. > > Michael S > BN1 #174 > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Bob Spidell > wrote: > > > Agreed. I am using a (modern) sleeved-type thermostat, have a calibrated > > gauge and have tried several thermostats (I tested a couple on the stove > > and they functioned as expected). Still, my BJ8 engine will run below the > > thermostat set point on a cool day with light load--I would expect the > > coolant temp even under those conditions to rise to nominal, but it > > doesn't. Our BN2 behaves the same way. > > > > The only comparison I can think of is air-cooled aircraft engines, which > > usually have an oil cooler. There is a valve called a > > Vernatherm--essentially a bi-metal strip--that closes off oil flow to the > > oil cooler radiator to allow the engine to warm to operating temperature > > before the cooler is brought 'online.' But, an air-cooled engine can > > dissipate a lot more heat than an Austin lump. > > > > Is it possible the huge chunk of iron in front could be 'self-cooling' to > > a point then, beyond that point, even with wide-open thermostat, cannot > > maintain a set temperature? My guess is that at speed there is sufficient > > airflow to cool the engine--even below the thermostat set point--but once > > stuck in traffic or with a load there isn't enough excess airflow and the > > cooling system's capability is exceeded (as Kees mentioned). > > > > Bob > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > In general the temperature should be more or less constant under any > > condition, just slightly above the opening temperature of the > > thermostat. If the temperature shows to be lower than the thermostat > > opening temperature the thermostat is at fault or is the wrong type (it > > should be of the sleeved type), assuming the heater is turned off. If > > very cold, with the heater plus heater fan on maximum, the temperature > > could drop below the opening temperature of the thermostat. > > If the temperature increases significantly the cooling capacity is > > insufficient because of blockages/dirt, faulty water pump or the wrong > > radiator capacity. > > Older cars can have insufficient cooling capacity at low speeds/engine > > revs, hence the advise to fit a thermostatically controlled electric fan > > when the car is used in modern traffic. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 03:02:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E636F258505F for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 03:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f42.google.com (mail-pa0-f42.google.com [209.85.220.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557522584671 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:59:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id bj1so950700pad.15 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:02:32 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qaBvkTl3AJHUeGxdUwQgiSCQPg0SLfhf0zr2PSlKlhc=; b=PXRFLrwx+qxjB2yXmUVo6/hc0Dr8oR4ziALKibxMD2jD8fq0IyZFcZ8J1LY2itEL/2 cAF8kgvWDcYgxAFU/cSUWyl6Pw7XQ/Z15z5OP93C1rPsYmZJxLN1wXBYT5dlFCRlQQnO gKpIFIMipC8xs3NOyZjwnj5Aui1vVT0RlbVEd0L1UdOOX1CMv07QLe4mPuW/+voIrviz cW+yW3CpheTruqwoMnQyp84jIsVC+Lj35yJm4v3hNz4usUNNf5ZTeu1FzDl4YiZ3ZijT c9lpjFVkHvZ2tHzRA237OSGOv3Vrry6XUR5zBOcN1+QTkg/F5R4BPU20qulJO/rDmESd Fx+g== x13mr10819060pbt.57.1413363752502; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.41.71 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:02:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:02:32 +0800 From: Alan Seigrist To: Derek Job Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Folks - All of you have lost your collective marbles noodles knowledge (said with respect). The 100 has its temp sensor mounted on the tank of the radiator, not on the engine block. This means if the thermostat is shut, then the temp in the top of the radiator will go down as you are driving because the wind is cooling a closed system in the radiator. This is why on the 3000 they moved the temp bulb to under the thermostat, so it tells you better what engine / head temps are regardless to whether the thermostat is opened or closed. Cheers! Alan On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Derek Job wrote: > I'm surprised at some of the large variations in temp that people are > reporting. My car gets up to temperature and stays there. It might rise > slightly when stuck in traffic for a prolonged period. It doesn't drop > 20-30 degrees during normal driving. That doesn't sound right to me. > > Derek > > >> >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Steven Kingsbury < >> airtightproductions@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> > On Wednesday, October 1st I installed an all aluminum radiator in my BN1 >> > 100. >> > On >> > Saturday, October 4th I went on a 200 mile plus journey from the valley >> > floor >> > in >> > northern California up to 8500 feet elevation at the summit of Mount >> > Lassen and then back into the valley. The temperature in the valley >> > was about 95 degrees F and going up in to the mountains, I got stuck >> > behind a motor home and on a very twisty, steep, hot and slow road, >> > that's where I got my hottest, a little under 200 degrees! The rest of >> > the trip I ranged from 150 degrees to 190! I'm not even going to count >> > the 120 I got coming down out of the mountains! >> > All in all, it's the best thing I've ever done for my car. The >> > radiator was made by Wizardo;? out of New York, I got it off of eBay and >> > other >> > than >> > them sending me the wrong radiator to begin with, (which they did >> > straighten out), I would highly recommend their work and product. NFI, >> > just happy with what it's done to my car. Didn't have to change a >> > thing in the car and it bolted right in! Sweet! >> > Steven Kingsbury >> > BN1 #598 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 03:08:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A840258508A for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 03:08:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com (mail-pd0-f180.google.com [209.85.192.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE62F2584A51 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 03:07:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id fp1so926238pdb.11 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:11:07 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wewGMktA28N/yrJctzn2TOPfyrBpE7tUzA+YCC02yow=; b=sh9sCdKHH4Oj94Pe8gZyRD5bVf2emrIxPW32mmSlO3X+YSgL9EbFZXRUZs5q444xcC FQvA8QSAlke2PfggKdW7bi6PclR3CZA0z+kTCwIOSx17WVrCBkWLKSKZbR0dkjtQ33yY KdZaUuKCCrSp9QX49QpvfDhj/rAJbRKdbOG2OWMqs/dz/72EOzTfQzi0U61dn2nI1TE1 076YvJnDKGa6qT5pPf0hjIzi2CYczs2uc+dsaC8E2piJ1FSshphAqX0uPQScnY+OgOlI akqhM9hJQ29icmwZ/p/VM230qERdO3nub5HUii6JlvUgRmhesGnmZXTMF4EqnRqeBd8t J1Hw== t14mr11074348pdl.57.1413364267096; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.41.71 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:11:06 -0700 (PDT) References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:11:07 +0800 From: Alan Seigrist To: Derek Job Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Actually, I've found some advantages to the 100 sensor location - it'll generally tell you if your thermostat is working (you can see the temp jump all of a sudden when the thermostat opens) and also I've found when it's seems to be running too cool, it usually means I need to add a bit of coolant because the bulb is sensing the air temp, not water temp. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Folks - > > All of you have lost your collective marbles noodles knowledge (said with > respect). > > The 100 has its temp sensor mounted on the tank of the radiator, not on > the engine block. This means if the thermostat is shut, then the temp in > the top of the radiator will go down as you are driving because the wind is > cooling a closed system in the radiator. > > This is why on the 3000 they moved the temp bulb to under the thermostat, > so it tells you better what engine / head temps are regardless to whether > the thermostat is opened or closed. > > Cheers! > > Alan > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Derek Job wrote: > >> I'm surprised at some of the large variations in temp that people are >> reporting. My car gets up to temperature and stays there. It might rise >> slightly when stuck in traffic for a prolonged period. It doesn't drop >> 20-30 degrees during normal driving. That doesn't sound right to me. >> >> Derek >> >> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Steven Kingsbury < >>> airtightproductions@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> > On Wednesday, October 1st I installed an all aluminum radiator in my >>> BN1 >>> > 100. >>> > On >>> > Saturday, October 4th I went on a 200 mile plus journey from the valley >>> > floor >>> > in >>> > northern California up to 8500 feet elevation at the summit of Mount >>> > Lassen and then back into the valley. The temperature in the valley >>> > was about 95 degrees F and going up in to the mountains, I got stuck >>> > behind a motor home and on a very twisty, steep, hot and slow road, >>> > that's where I got my hottest, a little under 200 degrees! The rest of >>> > the trip I ranged from 150 degrees to 190! I'm not even going to count >>> > the 120 I got coming down out of the mountains! >>> > All in all, it's the best thing I've ever done for my car. The >>> > radiator was made by Wizardo;? out of New York, I got it off of eBay >>> and >>> > other >>> > than >>> > them sending me the wrong radiator to begin with, (which they did >>> > straighten out), I would highly recommend their work and product. NFI, >>> > just happy with what it's done to my car. Didn't have to change a >>> > thing in the car and it bolted right in! Sweet! >>> > Steven Kingsbury >>> > BN1 #598 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 04:37:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28A025850C2 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 04:37:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep49.mx.upcmail.net (fep49.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CE92584D08 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 04:37:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe49-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141015104014.MHMF27787.viepfeppe49-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:40:14 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 3NgE1p00Z0Hh4wo01NgEPQ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:40:14 +0200 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:40:11 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net There are only two situations where the coolant temperature in the engine is lower than the opening temperature of the thermostat: 1- during warming up of the engine 2- when there is a heater core that has so much capacity that it is sufficient to overcool the engine when the heater is at full blast on a really cold day. The proper places, in my view, to measure the coolant temp is in the top hose/thermostat housing above the thermostat/top of radiator or just below the thermostat, where it will also measure the coolant temperature during warming up within the engine. When measured on the head or in the engine block one may expect deviations from the real maximum coolant temp. To keep the coolant level to the top of the filler neck, use a properly installed expansion vessel, this will eventually expel all air/vapour from the radiator. Kees Oudesluijs Alan Seigrist schreef op 15-10-2014 11:11: > Actually, I've found some advantages to the 100 sensor location - it'll > generally tell you if your thermostat is working (you can see the temp jump > all of a sudden when the thermostat opens) and also I've found when it's > seems to be running too cool, it usually means I need to add a bit of > coolant because the bulb is sensing the air temp, not water temp. > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> Folks - >> >> All of you have lost your collective marbles noodles knowledge (said with >> respect). >> >> The 100 has its temp sensor mounted on the tank of the radiator, not on >> the engine block. This means if the thermostat is shut, then the temp in >> the top of the radiator will go down as you are driving because the wind is >> cooling a closed system in the radiator. >> >> This is why on the 3000 they moved the temp bulb to under the thermostat, >> so it tells you better what engine / head temps are regardless to whether >> the thermostat is opened or closed. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Alan >> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Derek Job wrote: >> >>> I'm surprised at some of the large variations in temp that people are >>> reporting. My car gets up to temperature and stays there. It might rise >>> slightly when stuck in traffic for a prolonged period. It doesn't drop >>> 20-30 degrees during normal driving. That doesn't sound right to me. >>> >>> Derek >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Steven Kingsbury < >>>> airtightproductions@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, October 1st I installed an all aluminum radiator in my >>>> BN1 >>>>> 100. >>>>> On >>>>> Saturday, October 4th I went on a 200 mile plus journey from the valley >>>>> floor >>>>> in >>>>> northern California up to 8500 feet elevation at the summit of Mount >>>>> Lassen and then back into the valley. The temperature in the valley >>>>> was about 95 degrees F and going up in to the mountains, I got stuck >>>>> behind a motor home and on a very twisty, steep, hot and slow road, >>>>> that's where I got my hottest, a little under 200 degrees! The rest of >>>>> the trip I ranged from 150 degrees to 190! I'm not even going to count >>>>> the 120 I got coming down out of the mountains! >>>>> All in all, it's the best thing I've ever done for my car. The >>>>> radiator was made by Wizardo;? out of New York, I got it off of eBay >>>> and >>>>> other >>>>> than >>>>> them sending me the wrong radiator to begin with, (which they did >>>>> straighten out), I would highly recommend their work and product. NFI, >>>>> just happy with what it's done to my car. Didn't have to change a >>>>> thing in the car and it bolted right in! Sweet! >>>>> Steven Kingsbury >>>>> BN1 #598 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8391 - datum van uitgifte: 10/15/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 07:02:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D5B25850EE for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:02:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout02.plus.net (avasout02.plus.net [212.159.14.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE3C258464F for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([46.208.126.193]) by avasout02 with smtp id 3R2M1p0094AVDlJ01R2Pa0; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:02:23 +0100 a=3QvfGs44D+AUFIDOQglIhQ==:117 a=3QvfGs44D+AUFIDOQglIhQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=2ciaTQvf_9oA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=0Q6dDAj3APu6OD2JwrAA:9 a=PaeS0_db7h2aMa9M:21 a=n5a4D0mI8iAkaITE:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:02:21 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac/oWD1JcobxbQUrTiSAPB4h5K0zIQAAoK5wAAdZ2YA= Content-Language: en-gb Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net 1) I had my original rad recored and it was more efficient. (Only did it because the old one was knackered). 2) A sleeved thermostat, per the originals, does help. I was able to get some, correct temp, from a Morgan man on eBay. 3) I now have a new rad from Ahead4Healeys, here in UK. It's copper but they claim it to be higher performance than the originals ie it's presumably got more core(s). (Installed as part of the repairs after that clown backed into me). 4) The previous rad had been seeping where it had a blanking plug per rads which had temp sensor in rad. I took out the plug, cleaned the thread, wound on some ptfe tape and refitted it. (All in the hope that the rad could be reused and more because I was in a hurry to get car back on road for trip to Ireland). Anyhow, my efforts or the (maybe a bit) stronger coolant or the accident had disturbed the solder/braze and the plug leaked big time. I throw these into the knowledge pool...ie watch those plugs and look out for sleeved thermostats. Talking of plugs and pun intended....a quick plug for Ahead4Healeys. They are most helpful, carry decent stock and will expedite when emergency didtates. Simon _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 07:03:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10815258513C for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:03:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com (mail-ig0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2307258464F for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:00:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hn15so1319688igb.9 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:03:40 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:mime-version:to:from:subject:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type; bh=9uhvCxt990gQdNwygtW2+npHBVm8Nx4Oib3E/kFfBZM=; b=Kgtw7MLqLo1ruiloAPs6Q5YUbgMUtwBd9eH84wV+Yiu8dVXiEAIstEyGxXKREJmzTv c6ofJuR9Vk+rbR52KmC2G5kTmz62CVKf47PDogXwMAYx+qvVuvsJFFSHUFL4qVY5vqDO PqsLAljKsuDuhYh7ttAhuqbrIBK884misXW8ehtLuejtCPXfOp8yPFfbDih9J+7pP466 atWvQt2V4HymYjTGvli64kNznni4MXxMttcdT6btmkEFB7dft4ClsEp+DHYI9/Q363wu ilcC4Ja+kJeAUlomlI1lzWmI6Mx+Yy5kBQjYM/TCHYyLDBycjUWOKa2vA5RC0+7RNWNA BXtQ== w9mr13730614igl.33.1413378220188; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.113] ([69.17.191.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hi17sm2338192igb.13.2014.10.15.06.03.11 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:03:13 -0700 (PDT) To: Bob Spidell , healeylist From: Michael Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:02:58 -0400 References: <543D12C7.1040409@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars 100M Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Got a message from Alan last week...he was in Tokyo on vacation to get away from"the silliness in Hong Kong. Michael S BN1 #174 -----Original Message----- From: "Bob Spidell" Sent: b10/b14/b2014 8:17 AM To: "healeylist" Subject: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars 100M On an episode I saw last night Wayne inspected and picked-up a red/black 100M. He mostly got the info correct, but was suspicious that the car did not have the small 'M' on the grill flash. I've read they weren't always installed, and may have been a 'bonus' for preferred customers, or it could have fallen off at some time. At any rate, it was a beautiful car with only 35K miles and original paint. They should show the sale in a later episode; if I miss it maybe someone could report the sale price. I'm guessing $200K or better (especially if it goes to auction). On another note, anyone heard from Alan Seigrist? He used to be a regular poster but haven't heard from him in a while. Bob -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 07:08:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079062585166 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:08:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3F02584963 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:07:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id rl12so1139594iec.31 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:10:57 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:mime-version:to:from:subject:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type; bh=8Cpmf7kiaukK03G2KGAdrVddPygtu7iI/LL1y2IPDYQ=; b=mIakyrD17FR8jQsmPwdk0FSdYg0YDgUXLXngNGNKgBUW44a9lSNkmvjOHNVc1esv3S UYfI3gMM3fqGoAFumyilbxTu4fvTAkq5G4ag+tFlNWme2kYuKZChJ+9n6IZQfJB4kEKE NbXUGNud78wAP5oGk7SV1YxTKNWyAcfWJsF98ZT3kuycUPYB/+S6bNTZiUVXdqWixOrt eKZEgUvHzT/yrR+GN2Dayb/fIwVsrJTsrnUwNM7pUZByVlxxlHhNQ023nCp7tTYVsmNd Tanaz6yOlS23dFDYGtJGzEpv9u/6bGA6xMiJg03q8xFVQfxRIBfdnvRxJNTB2WoA8Ewz r9PQ== Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.113] ([69.17.191.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b199sm1790677ioe.2.2014.10.15.06.10.50 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:10:56 -0700 (PDT) To: Steven Kingsbury , From: Michael Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:10:41 -0400 References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net My experience with aluminium radiators has not been good with two failing, one through cracking in the core and the second as a result of corrosion after 4 years of summer use. Just sayin'. Michael S BN1 #174 -----Original Message----- From: "Steven Kingsbury" Sent: b10/b14/b2014 11:03 AM To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator On Wednesday, October 1st I installed an all aluminum radiator in my BN1 100. On Saturday, October 4th I went on a 200 mile plus journey from the valley floor in northern California up to 8500 feet elevation at the summit of Mount Lassen and then back into the valley. The temperature in the valley was about 95 degrees F and going up in to the mountains, I got stuck behind a motor home and on a very twisty, steep, hot and slow road, that's where I got my hottest, a little under 200 degrees! The rest of the trip I ranged from 150 degrees to 190! I'm not even going to count the 120 I got coming down out of the mountains! All in all, it's the best thing I've ever done for my car. The radiator was made by Wizardo;? out of New York, I got it off of eBay and other than them sending me the wrong radiator to begin with, (which they did straighten out), I would highly recommend their work and product. NFI, just happy with what it's done to my car. Didn't have to change a thing in the car and it bolted right in! Sweet! Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 08:02:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6088725851B1 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:02:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565032584AAA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:00:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id y10so1435994wgg.3 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=dOpFqapyF+RsC9YAwHSyP2O0MNWZmYXeV+vAUWUd9OI=; b=vGwleX2Toy4wwCks3FfljXYsML3DMABP9+AWmKK5QxD53XssGLIjc2TRIUKhVoGipd D70GoFc/1S8bbXwFJItZwfYN9oLKN0lLhWz4ewRGp3QfPSiVieQyvIUeD4XwdWxDEB5D 4/wXuyo2gW0YMsLb01TKD0wXfCK/U7anPLFVuMe02VGlqQLvsrrmLgALrEmrRokNi1Ek nMvJ5TXl/NlAZOAmUsYd/DcrKSljl5rE7u/GHBO2ISiaNJlWNdAVi+IiT7uStNWv3VUO sL7oSlGPu2sHIituQ2oPemYbSWsfB9U82E//4kyeOlSFKqFHYCgKwjb0hE42/gQ+T5qw /mGg== pm10mr12792085wic.22.1413381814972; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.242.219.28] ([85.255.232.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fq1sm8751105wib.12.2014.10.15.07.03.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:03:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <543e712d.88842a0a.2669.ffffa752SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> From: 'bluehealey' Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:03:29 +0100 To: Simon Lachlan Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I discovered the hard way that Red coolant dissolves solder. Who knew!! What are you using Simon? AlanB - iPhone message. > On 15 Oct 2014, at 14:02, "Simon Lachlan" wrote: > > 1) I had my original rad recored and it was more efficient. (Only did it > because the old one was knackered). > 2) A sleeved thermostat, per the originals, does help. I was able to get > some, correct temp, from a Morgan man on eBay. > 3) I now have a new rad from Ahead4Healeys, here in UK. It's copper but they > claim it to be higher performance than the originals ie it's presumably got > more core(s). (Installed as part of the repairs after that clown backed into > me). > 4) The previous rad had been seeping where it had a blanking plug per rads > which had temp sensor in rad. I took out the plug, cleaned the thread, wound > on some ptfe tape and refitted it. (All in the hope that the rad could be > reused and more because I was in a hurry to get car back on road for trip to > Ireland). Anyhow, my efforts or the (maybe a bit) stronger coolant or the > accident had disturbed the solder/braze and the plug leaked big time. > > I throw these into the knowledge pool...ie watch those plugs and look out > for sleeved thermostats. > Talking of plugs and pun intended....a quick plug for Ahead4Healeys. They > are most helpful, carry decent stock and will expedite when emergency > didtates. > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 08:04:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892C525851F8 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:04:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.245]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE972584ACC for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:03:51 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1413382023; bh=oPsTR2LXYGRXfb2FInYdGEzUw2wcuJY1oUwxb5+ameg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=CNzFkzhHbJR3xquEE4xvEo/uJBzPrcqiqQy1BVpSM4qEPPgKwTC86x10FOmN0m0++0aaaCco/nBbRoY5QdEDJRmzoMlP5nxr1b1G2G/woF12yp6BKONAb6Wze+SFzdPgDLHc/8pzBobF1GOMFhBAc238rD/CfGopQ3YTK7exXjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; b=4Z1MHHHC+TJ61Db5KT3uqvUGhsvdt0gOr5EasBPVDwo5RLaZP0IYfGcAN4fKlmWzcx4P3sDkrpBF/qORSjXf1zyyagzN42y0LdXkw/JpwcKJTH/nfCWXCqa8R736K1HwcqjObcbc6UoPPEQPYXm4NvzeIVK1BO9l2g9ZxmKxJe8=; Received: from [66.196.81.157] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2014 14:07:03 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.97] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2014 14:07:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2014 14:07:03 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413382023; bh=oPsTR2LXYGRXfb2FInYdGEzUw2wcuJY1oUwxb5+ameg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=n6ae1SW7LkT9GQ8GUXk8CfR13KA8Pzo9KCHCCxOQAYt5tzpVhohRaGqObRcjqQ57fk8dq4bxmEDVuALwlQTi3NEbQMQ24Jpn22e/G0xrevRCMxzK3y6aPJpGQqYsbsROVlFQX29+YyXyKuQWo8CKB3vXekGUmHirFnlfYQnyjPU= k7Fr1M7RB6oSPccBQesIDbZlV.kJlocxeLxNjPRmBzuPjppWw8jMnUit0KTc Lchj3dTYxP3Swj1bQrnv_sCeW3gmHlTpJoX7h15.lniOmu9NwAjzEXTzXNRH OYm5z6YmJCqASzPGx_fchwbFxB5mltGgwC9qY87l6wEyuLoorZ4fuXNr297M cudSjuSSvr4BsXPPBNl_lZ4UTAY5JoS2LBorGDwwA.RJJ3kFCbmk2Lny58ww C2ND_Z5QUEyMrewJ0uryI5l5lCJJYTI5JvX0ROxfc7OddYpYvtSQh5lK3ZG. mNmoGQ.LbeBNB7JlbPi8LwqjhZrp9TPxG.9Lp5n2cJtdnDbhuvBZAi.eFkxo XleYu7QlUJnXMzwj3mAHhbQ5QUCzO4eGGXV3zHnaAqgZ742RofQ219s6iJpI KuSfx28618U63JMSX.zvfOdLJu4kuR7Bz9otqe64fUOHNiv1niOCKKAABrFv t1thqDn2eshuC.vx21.xc4pMJJpIO4QVWGgrLaTMJ8Q-- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:07:04 -0400 From: Bob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.2 CC: Healey References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Well, I'm not and that is because nowhere in this discussion has gauge accuracy come up. I'd suspect that is a big contributor to the spread in readings. If someone makes a change and all other conditions are the same the difference may be pretty close to being correct but the absolute value of the temperature reading is still suspect in my view. Bob On 10/15/2014 4:21 AM, Derek Job wrote: > I'm surprised at some of the large variations in temp that people are > reporting. My car gets up to temperature and stays there. It might rise > slightly when stuck in traffic for a prolonged period. It doesn't drop > 20-30 degrees during normal driving. That doesn't sound right to me. > > Derek > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> Steven - >> >> Glad you had good results, the improvement primarily has to do with the >> fact the radiator is new. Make sure you have a screen on the intake hose >> to keep crud out of your ali radiator - ali rads can't be serviced. >> >> Whenever my car starts running hot, I just take the radiator out and have >> it rodded / serviced. Usually does the trick. Also jet hot coating the >> exhaust manifold helps push the heat out the tail pipe rather than keeping >> it under the bonnet - particularly useful on very long drives. >> >> Best, >> >> Alan >> >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Steven Kingsbury < >> airtightproductions@icloud.com> wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, October 1st I installed an all aluminum radiator in my BN1 >>> 100. >>> On >>> Saturday, October 4th I went on a 200 mile plus journey from the valley >>> floor >>> in >>> northern California up to 8500 feet elevation at the summit of Mount >>> Lassen and then back into the valley. The temperature in the valley >>> was about 95 degrees F and going up in to the mountains, I got stuck >>> behind a motor home and on a very twisty, steep, hot and slow road, >>> that's where I got my hottest, a little under 200 degrees! The rest of >>> the trip I ranged from 150 degrees to 190! I'm not even going to count >>> the 120 I got coming down out of the mountains! >>> All in all, it's the best thing I've ever done for my car. The >>> radiator was made by Wizardo;? out of New York, I got it off of eBay and >>> other >>> than >>> them sending me the wrong radiator to begin with, (which they did >>> straighten out), I would highly recommend their work and product. NFI, >>> just happy with what it's done to my car. Didn't have to change a >>> thing in the car and it bolted right in! Sweet! >>> Steven Kingsbury >>> BN1 #598 >>> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 08:32:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A442585274 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B2F25851EA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:31:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.107]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3SZJ1p00G2Ka2Q501SaMTK; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:34:21 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([98.207.131.183]) by resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3SaL1p00J3xa1La01SaM39; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:34:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:34:12 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: robertlarson@att.net References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <543E7F88.4010101@att.net> s=q20140121; t=1413383661; bh=rx5OWcoROB7BUX23r7y8PsfrW5xnKArsEVnP9f+HrJg=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=Ucipg9huZ+dSLPLMyZXS+pOmAxiWRCxw+QzWxToWGtUsrcojKXgtAXYuJfYA/HyVG ZaCjE0xqL1tysNezse99Qax3h2YwIMHde6kC5d1thLdHHb8KS8opKhU5Em7Wypa7Om +WqarRONUXcvWO8Q2GMTCuPinlc3PNW6GByveLacfb4BDTDiLgmbchArMb8cyNpB0m JlZrX3yv+tOhHRYt3BEifW2QYCCpaJm/uuo4HqTouomOsOShl3FN1CObjO21wS5p8s c5Iz8zgXm/TgsdS2Kb36xzVNwh8qz8gWMb0X0U39qgib29OrSwPwUCI+Q6YCoKTFes OmHqJM082cytg== Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net My gauge was recently refurbished and calibrated by West Valley Instruments (the former 'Mo' in MoMa), so I'm reasonably confident it's accurate. My temp will stay below the thermostat set point (180degF) on a cool day. Coasting down a hill, it often gets below 160. Driving along steady on a mild day it will stay at 180 (expected), then exceed that on a hot day pulling a load or sitting in traffic. My heater is usually off--but the valve on the block is open year-round--and I've used it as an 'auxiliary radiator' when it gets close to 212deg. So, assuming the gauge is correct, why is my temp often below 180 (Kees?). The only explanation I can think of is that the engine is sufficiently air-cooled in benign conditions to keep the thermostat closed. I've tried several thermostats with same result, and have tested a couple on the stove in hot water. Apparently, others are experiencing the same phenomenon. Bob On 10/15/2014 7:07 AM, Bob wrote: > Well, I'm not and that is because nowhere in this discussion has gauge accuracy come up. > I'd suspect that is a big contributor to the spread in readings. > > If someone makes a change and all other conditions are the same the difference may be > pretty close to being correct but the absolute value of the temperature reading is still suspect > in my view. > > Bob > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 08:39:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2E125852BB for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:39:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA24925845E0 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:39:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141015144240.BEZI8128.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:42:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([68.8.99.146]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id 3Sif1p00u39WC8c01SifwP; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:42:40 -0400 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:17 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=T4gFM8oO5LLUsYvDRBoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Wilko2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:42:38 -0700 Cc: Healey References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <543E7F88.4010101@att.net> <3SbY1p0140NyJgq01SbZvt> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know how accurate my gauge is. I run no thermostat in my 100 Six and have the sleave installed to run that way. Temp sensor in head. Temp stays under 180 most San Diego days (70-80 degrees lately). usually is about 160-170. It doesn't act like it's any hotter. No excess coolant spilling out. Seems just fine. Rick On Oct 15, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > My gauge was recently refurbished and calibrated by West Valley Instruments (the former 'Mo' in MoMa), so I'm reasonably confident it's accurate. My temp will stay below the thermostat set point (180degF) on a cool day. Coasting down a hill, it often gets below 160. Driving along steady on a mild day it will stay at 180 (expected), then exceed that on a hot day pulling a load or sitting in traffic. My heater is usually off--but the valve on the block is open year-round--and I've used it as an 'auxiliary radiator' when it gets close to 212deg. > > So, assuming the gauge is correct, why is my temp often below 180 (Kees?). The only explanation I can think of is that the engine is sufficiently air-cooled in benign conditions to keep the thermostat closed. I've tried several thermostats with same result, and have tested a couple on the stove in hot water. Apparently, others are experiencing the same phenomenon. > > Bob > > > On 10/15/2014 7:07 AM, Bob wrote: >> Well, I'm not and that is because nowhere in this discussion has gauge accuracy come up. >> I'd suspect that is a big contributor to the spread in readings. >> >> If someone makes a change and all other conditions are the same the difference may be >> pretty close to being correct but the absolute value of the temperature reading is still suspect >> in my view. >> >> Bob >> >> >> > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins@cox.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 08:47:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E242625845E0 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:47:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCE825845E0 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:45:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-15v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.111]) by resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3Snn1p00E2Qkjl901SoFNm; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:48:15 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([98.207.131.183]) by resomta-ch2-15v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3SoF1p0093xa1La01SoF3s; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:48:15 +0000 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:48:06 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: robertlarson@att.net References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <543E7F88.4010101@att.net> <543E85E4.5020800@comcast.net> s=q20140121; t=1413384495; bh=+k7FNM2PxIQGLIWb2t1fffTad06Z7Ao6sRe2clHmJ3k=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=JpBhNH+OJyTMpfFDq4xqUP2pkghNoyVshXSxD73bcKw75mz1nqi9W9wORgt1HNdXi UCisqV+/BU28uRabpr+7Xf703RyvAfN0ltlMsIVnCqBGDdUb7Zz4yUr6ZRhu55Sl4G aRCI0UXUsq6HZElpKRbQmV4XYbTrANjBh3OeiSH94ZMiEJ8tpDHOWIrih0Xldw+h1z Ni9LiqZBi0ijvHWh3Tkx71TDY5+yngJK+z9afXT9K+oMIW+SW5eSgYZ3UEizSZpmq4 VEkRZI1jaf+OsmDYsRFiB8UYMU/uj6RJtqFhEQ4D1azJjHH2YYlbkI/mbHE66Xk7hd 0hQ9IUb9ghnxg== Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Also, on a warm day when I shut down the temp will go to exactly 212degF (100degC), which gives me more confidence the gauge is correct (what my dad calls 'latent heat' causes the coolant to go the boiling point). Bob On 10/15/2014 7:34 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > My gauge was recently refurbished and calibrated by West Valley Instruments (the former 'Mo' in MoMa), so I'm > reasonably confident it's accurate. My temp will stay below the thermostat set point (180degF) on a cool day. > Coasting down a hill, it often gets below 160. Driving along steady on a mild day it will stay at 180 (expected), > then exceed that on a hot day pulling a load or sitting in traffic. My heater is usually off--but the valve on the > block is open year-round--and I've used it as an 'auxiliary radiator' when it gets close to 212deg. > > So, assuming the gauge is correct, why is my temp often below 180 (Kees?). The only explanation I can think of is > that the engine is sufficiently air-cooled in benign conditions to keep the thermostat closed. I've tried several > thermostats with same result, and have tested a couple on the stove in hot water. Apparently, others are experiencing > the same phenomenon. > > Bob > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 08:49:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FAF25852F5 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:49:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep47.mx.upcmail.net (fep47.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890772585262 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe47-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141015145156.CCTO13609.viepfeppe47-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:51:56 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 3Srv1p00b0Hh4wo01Srvgh; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:51:55 +0200 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:51:53 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <543e712d.88842a0a.2669.ffffa752SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Red/purple coolant should never be used in older engines. I am not sure where the line is but I expect around 2000. This type of coolant may damage older type gaskets, seals, silicon sealant and silicon radiator/coolant hoses. On classic cars always use the blue/green stuff. When replacing the coolant rinse thoroughly first as not to mix the two types. Kees Oudesluijs 'bluehealey' schreef op 15-10-2014 16:03: > I discovered the hard way that Red coolant dissolves solder. Who knew!! > What are you using Simon? > > AlanB - iPhone message. > >> On 15 Oct 2014, at 14:02, "Simon Lachlan" > wrote: >> 1) I had my original rad recored and it was more efficient. (Only did it >> because the old one was knackered). >> 2) A sleeved thermostat, per the originals, does help. I was able to get >> some, correct temp, from a Morgan man on eBay. >> 3) I now have a new rad from Ahead4Healeys, here in UK. It's copper but > they >> claim it to be higher performance than the originals ie it's presumably got >> more core(s). (Installed as part of the repairs after that clown backed > into >> me). >> 4) The previous rad had been seeping where it had a blanking plug per rads >> which had temp sensor in rad. I took out the plug, cleaned the thread, > wound >> on some ptfe tape and refitted it. (All in the hope that the rad could be >> reused and more because I was in a hurry to get car back on road for trip > to >> Ireland). Anyhow, my efforts or the (maybe a bit) stronger coolant or the >> accident had disturbed the solder/braze and the plug leaked big time. >> >> I throw these into the knowledge pool...ie watch those plugs and look out >> for sleeved thermostats. >> Talking of plugs and pun intended....a quick plug for Ahead4Healeys. They >> are most helpful, carry decent stock and will expedite when emergency >> didtates. >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8391 - datum van uitgifte: 10/15/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 09:08:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06788258532C for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:08:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout02.plus.net (avasout02.plus.net [212.159.14.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3D32584C12 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:07:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([46.208.126.193]) by avasout02 with smtp id 3TAh1p0054AVDlJ01TAi8W; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:10:43 +0100 a=3QvfGs44D+AUFIDOQglIhQ==:117 a=3QvfGs44D+AUFIDOQglIhQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=2ciaTQvf_9oA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=MWmeu6hnowY9szdO6YAA:9 a=L4AcgOY4kbFn73FA:21 a=3j1_e1eVdGXHkij-:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=GRuFdhU3rW4A:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: "'bluehealey'" References: <543e712d.88842a0a.2669.ffffa752SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:10:41 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac/ogNEuv5QzzI9+T4+UyHyF3DkyDwACQMrg Content-Language: en-gb Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I was using blue. Was working under the impression that new/stronger coolant (of any colour) would dissolve gunk and that gunk is sometimes all that stands between us and disaster! Simon -----Original Message----- From: 'bluehealey' [mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com] Sent: 15 October 2014 15:03 To: Simon Lachlan Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator I discovered the hard way that Red coolant dissolves solder. Who knew!! What are you using Simon? AlanB - iPhone message. > On 15 Oct 2014, at 14:02, "Simon Lachlan" wrote: > > 1) I had my original rad recored and it was more efficient. (Only did > it because the old one was knackered). > 2) A sleeved thermostat, per the originals, does help. I was able to > get some, correct temp, from a Morgan man on eBay. > 3) I now have a new rad from Ahead4Healeys, here in UK. It's copper > but they claim it to be higher performance than the originals ie it's > presumably got more core(s). (Installed as part of the repairs after > that clown backed into me). > 4) The previous rad had been seeping where it had a blanking plug per > rads which had temp sensor in rad. I took out the plug, cleaned the > thread, wound on some ptfe tape and refitted it. (All in the hope that > the rad could be reused and more because I was in a hurry to get car > back on road for trip to Ireland). Anyhow, my efforts or the (maybe a > bit) stronger coolant or the accident had disturbed the solder/braze and the plug leaked big time. > > I throw these into the knowledge pool...ie watch those plugs and look > out for sleeved thermostats. > Talking of plugs and pun intended....a quick plug for Ahead4Healeys. > They are most helpful, carry decent stock and will expedite when > emergency didtates. > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 10:06:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBCB2585330 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:06:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from cmta20.telus.net (cmta20.telus.net [209.171.16.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7178D2584EB2 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:06:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from WINDOWST93OFP9 ([154.20.22.193]) by cmta20.telus.net with TELUS id 3U9H1p00e49xT9E01U9Hlu; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:09:19 -0600 a=C6ev1NsZz1ygohoQRENMaA==:17 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=QWbc5P4I_GMA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=M1MjnI41AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=4lSazpyg7fYGg6Af1I4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=ZIICMiRxU0sA:10 a=rBKJJ2Jc0C4A:10 a=C6ev1NsZz1ygohoQRENMaA==:117 From: "Roger Grace" To: , "Healey List" References: <463264688.14043.1413296327580.JavaMail.root@cal.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:09:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you. I was also wondering what sensors you used, and if you used/what type of signal conditioning .. ?? The ones I am looking at give a 5V signal out after some electronics. rg -----Original Message----- From: goldengt@cal.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:18 AM To: Roger Grace Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Roger, I have two sensors and a switch. I can send you a wiring diagram if you wish. The switch is from the hardware store. Double throw double pole, I think. It has three positions. I used a underdash 2 gage panel and made a blanking plate to put the switch in the 2nd hole. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Grace" To: goldengt@cal.net, "healeys" Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:59:44 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning This is very interesting to me, as now that have converted my '67 BJ8 to -ve ground, one of my Winter projects is to install a pair of Bosch wideband O2 sensors. So would really like to hear of your experiences when you did this, and what sensors and monitoring equipment you are using ? Assume that you have installed 2 sensors and have 2 monitors or do you switch ? How difficult was it to install the bung for mounting the sensors ? Innovate are supposedly coming out with a new model where you can monitor data on your phone. As you have reported, this really does give a true indication of the SU tuning at WOT and under load and cruising conditions; when all is said and done the usual SU tuning is done near idle and relies on the needle profile and springs etc. being correct for your engine, fuel, altitude and how you drive. I do agree with "Blue Healy" that what you have reported seems to point to some fuel starvation at WOT - SU and AH surely did not get the profile sooo wrong. Any input on this topic much appreciated. rg -----Original Message----- From: goldengt@cal.net Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:55 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning I have had my three wire O2sensors and AirFuel meter for quite a while but now thought I have the time to do something about the readings. I have a mostly stock BJ8 with Kirk headers, 10%ethanol. With stock needles, I cruise one meter segment LED rich at sea level and at 2000 feet, the next richer meter segment is flickering. Not so bad, I guess. The faster I go, the richer I get in a gradual manner. However, when I climb a hill during the cruise at around 70mph, the meter goes dead lean (one LED from zero). It usually shows completely lean at hard acceleration also. 40mph cruise gives the same one LED rich as at 70. So should I get some weaker springs first or try for a needle that tapers to rich faster after the cruise? The web stuff I see says to try the needles. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace@telus.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 10:52:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB1C258534A for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com [17.158.161.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2A02584496 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:51:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nk11p00mm-spool001.mac.com ([17.158.161.66]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTP id <0NDH0088YWBRWS20@nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for healeys@autox.team.net; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:55:04 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-15_06:2014-10-15,2014-10-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410150144 Received: from localhost ([17.158.237.78]) by nk11p00mm-spool001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0NDH00J40WBR0K80@nk11p00mm-spool001.mac.com>; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:55:03 +0000 (GMT) To: Bob Spidell From: Steven Kingsbury Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:55:02 +0000 (GMT) Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, I am using a multi-blade fan that I got from David Nock. It works really well and I am also going to be changing the thermostat very soon as I haven't done that as of yet and I will see how that affects the whole situation. My car has run hot from when I got it almost ten years ago now and I kept to original radiator just in case some day I might make the car more than a driver. But she's just too much fun to drive not to give her the best chance of staying cool and going down the road. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 On Oct 14, 2014, at 08:15 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Cool :) FWIW, that's pretty much how my BJ8 behaves with a stock radiator and Texas Cooler fan. Are you running a stock BN1 fan? > > On a side note, does anyone know why our cars routinely run under the thermostat set point? For example, I have a 180degF thermostat in my BJ8, and on not-hot days on the freeway it may run around 160degF. Under warmer conditions with more of a load it'll hold 180 until stuck in traffic, etc. then goes up 10-20 degrees. The thermostat should stay closed until reaching the set point--e.g. 180--then open and maintain that temperature until the the radiator can no longer, well, radiate all the heat produced by the engine. Is it possible our engines are being air-cooled enough to stay under the thermostat set point under benign temp and load conditions? > > Bob > > o;? _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 10:55:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C88C2585321 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:55:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com [17.158.161.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFAD2584F9F for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:55:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nk11p00mm-spool001.mac.com ([17.158.161.66]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTP id <0NDH000XUWGZ0O30@nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com> for healeys@autox.team.net; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:58:36 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-15_06:2014-10-15,2014-10-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410150145 Received: from localhost ([17.158.237.78]) by nk11p00mm-spool001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0NDH00JCGWHC0K80@nk11p00mm-spool001.mac.com>; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:58:24 +0000 (GMT) To: Oudesluys From: Steven Kingsbury Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:58:23 +0000 (GMT) Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Kees, The temp sensor is in the radiator, top, passenger side. I'm pretty sure my thermostat is not functioning correctly and a new one is on order. As soon as I have it installed and we get some more hot weather, I'll report back on my findings of driving up hill in the heat. Steveno;? On Oct 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Oudesluys wrote: > Steve, where is the temperature sensor on your car as it surprises me > that the temp reading is lower than the opening temp of the thermostat. > The temp in the tophose/top radiator should be a tad over the opening temp. > Kees Oudesluijs > > > BJ8Healeys schreef op 14-10-2014 21:18: > > I have a radiator with a modern core in my BJ8. It is really the only thing > > I've ever found that would keep the temperature down in the cooling system. > > I also have a NOS AC sleeved thermostat (thanks, Kees!) rated at 187 deg. F. > > After the installation of the radiator, my car routinely has run between 170 > > and 180 on the road unless it's a really hot day or in a traffic backup and > > it might then go 190 - 200 for a short period but drops down quickly with > > more airflow through the radiator. > > With the sleeved thermostat, I can also see the thing function. For about > > the first 50 miles, the temp needle will move toward 190 and as soon as it > > gets there it will drop back to about 160. It continues cycling until a > > stable temperature is reached, typically 170 - 180. I guess the modern core > > can cool sufficiently to keep the thermostat mostly closed under coolish > > ambient conditions. > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob > > Spidell > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:15 AM > > To: Steven Kingsbury > > Cc: healeys > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator > > > > Cool :) FWIW, that's pretty much how my BJ8 behaves with a stock radiator > > and Texas Cooler fan. Are you running a stock BN1 fan? > > > > On a side note, does anyone know why our cars routinely run under the > > thermostat set point? For example, I have a 180degF thermostat in my BJ8, > > and on not-hot days on the freeway it may run around 160degF. Under warmer > > conditions with more of a load it'll hold 180 until stuck in traffic, etc. > > then goes up 10-20 degrees. The thermostat should stay closed until reaching > > the set point--e.g. 180--then open and maintain that temperature until the > > the radiator can no longer, well, radiate all the heat produced by the > > engine. Is it possible our engines are being air-cooled enough to stay under > > the thermostat set point under benign temp and load conditions? > > > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: coudesluijs@chello.nl'>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudeslu ijs@chello.nl > > > > > > > > ----- > > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8387 - datum van uitgifte: 10/14/14 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: airtightproductions@icloud.com'>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys /airtightproductions@icloud.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 11:03:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089AF25853AE for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 11:03:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep47.mx.upcmail.net (fep47.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A61F25852A0 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe47-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141015165946.CICA13609.viepfeppe47-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:59:46 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 3Uzl1p00j0Hh4wo01Uzlrm; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:59:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:59:43 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <543E7F88.4010101@att.net> <543E85E4.5020800@comcast.net> <543E8926.8080603@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net When a car is coasting down a long slope it does not burn much fuel/generates much heat. Certainly not enough to keep up the temperature so after a while the whole system/engine starts to cool down as the heat dissipated to the environment is more than the heat generated from combustion. Kees Oudesluijs Bob Spidell schreef op 15-10-2014 16:48: > Also, on a warm day when I shut down the temp will go to exactly > 212degF (100degC), which gives me more confidence the gauge is correct > (what my dad calls 'latent heat' causes the coolant to go the boiling > point). > > Bob > > > On 10/15/2014 7:34 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> My gauge was recently refurbished and calibrated by West Valley >> Instruments (the former 'Mo' in MoMa), so I'm reasonably confident >> it's accurate. My temp will stay below the thermostat set point >> (180degF) on a cool day. Coasting down a hill, it often gets below >> 160. Driving along steady on a mild day it will stay at 180 >> (expected), then exceed that on a hot day pulling a load or sitting >> in traffic. My heater is usually off--but the valve on the block is >> open year-round--and I've used it as an 'auxiliary radiator' when it >> gets close to 212deg. >> >> So, assuming the gauge is correct, why is my temp often below 180 >> (Kees?). The only explanation I can think of is that the engine is >> sufficiently air-cooled in benign conditions to keep the thermostat >> closed. I've tried several thermostats with same result, and have >> tested a couple on the stove in hot water. Apparently, others are >> experiencing the same phenomenon. >> >> Bob _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 13:09:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDFC25846CA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:09:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep43.mx.upcmail.net (fep43.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778F625844A4 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:08:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe43-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141015191207.FNSJ8410.viepfeppe43-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net>; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 21:12:07 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 3XC51p0260Hh4wo01XC6R2; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 21:12:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 21:12:04 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Steven Kingsbury References: <543EA9F9.8030601@chello.nl> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Steven, You can check the thermostat very simply by immersing it in a pan of water and slowly heat up on the gas/electric stove. Let a mercury thermometer (1000C +) dangle in the water without it touching the bottom of the pan. Just note at which temperature the thermostat starts to open. Cheers, Kees Steven Kingsbury schreef op 15-10-2014 18:58: Kees, The temp sensor is in the radiator, top, passenger side. I'm pretty sure my thermostat is not functioning correctly and a new one is on order. As soon as I have it installed and we get some more hot weather, I'll report back on my findings of driving up hill in the heat. Steven On Oct 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Oudesluys wrote: Steve, where is the temperature sensor on your car as it surprises me that the temp reading is lower than the opening temp of the thermostat. The temp in the tophose/top radiator should be a tad over the opening temp. Kees Oudesluijs _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 14:32:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B5C2584FCC for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:32:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from server278.com (server278.com [64.14.68.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AB725802AF for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 10759 invoked by uid 2007); 15 Oct 2014 20:35:14 -0000 From: To: =?utf-8?B?aGVhbGV5c0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldA==?= Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:35:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?aluminum_radiator?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net my bj8 has a 3 core high efficiency radiator and a $4 stant 190 degree thermostat. when i start up it smoothly increases to about 200 then drops down to about 180 as the thermostat opens then pegs at 190 where it stays unless i have a long light on a hot day or do a high speed drive where it might get up to 200 or so. i recently installed the baffles for the radiator which has never been on this car since i have owned it. it made no difference in the temp. no idea why as i have always heard that it was important to do this. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 22:37:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854E72584FDB for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 22:37:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from hoster902.com (hoster902.com [64.14.72.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204A62580BA2 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 22:36:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25710 invoked by uid 503); 16 Oct 2014 04:40:06 -0000 Received: from 71-95-207-154.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com (HELO PEECEEDELL) (steveg@71.95.207.154) by hoster902.com with ESMTPA; 16 Oct 2014 04:40:06 -0000 From: "Steve Gerow" To: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 21:40:01 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/o+z3Fc1rFqaS8STOhuIw1gOw0dg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Peter Roses and I have been using the K&N meters for a couple of years. We're big fans of this setup. The square meter is the least expensive. Save some money by buying the single-wire O2 sensors and mounting bungs from an auto parts store. I've noticed the leaning on acceleration (one carb only) and abated it by using heavier dashpot oil. It's easy to experiment with dashpot oil and springs with the meter. -- Steve Gerow BN6 morphed into a Test Bed _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 02:05:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF0F2585008 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:05:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail13.tpgi.com.au (mail13.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41282580873 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 01:58:54 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1413446527; bh=J6UjrBNTONeR6K/a1nqFSY6yjKcKfsODrlLUGaiBYWk=; h=X-TPG-Abuse:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=ckL/WLaq6KC3Uo5PllkyCVmvRxgBse0P9H93m2TI5lQMMI/MyIH1AEe5PIMDQU6ME M9P6V3o4cs7kGpU3uGex+gomaQcci3U4Yztv9K0JA/8V/pIPxDL5XMMqsW/fyBLRyX vr5MRqY31/mncfl1nbyThiLzCIvUV2IDPa01myAM= date=Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:02:06 +1100 Received: from PatrickQuinnPC (60-241-154-199.static.tpgi.com.au [60.241.154.199]) by mail13.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from p_cquinn@tpg.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s9G824XT025937 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:02:06 +1100 From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" To: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:02:10 +1100 Thread-Index: Ac/pFxrkkGYlu0vRRfyP0bFU/oCYxA== Content-Language: en-au Subject: [Healeys] GPS Machine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net G'day A few years back a few folks were very helpful before I bought my first GPS. Now I am thinking of my second one, but have decided that I want one with an altimeter as well as a compass. My current machine is a Tom Tom which I like and managed to fit it quite successfully to my positive earthed Austin-Healey. Does anyone know? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 03:06:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058AE2585030 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 03:06:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f48.google.com (mail-pa0-f48.google.com [209.85.220.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91A62580470 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 03:00:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id eu11so3053596pac.35 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:03:44 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WnXorCP1+Y8lnZfbTmvqe0aNLDUJtuGtWk/YRqUhmQ0=; b=o3yG91AMGx04gyRtPOH2qOEAI1+lveG3TtsVvEcUUvEOkS/NAIuvwX/8oyL+MnBtLB hck4KPsnJ37pP/l6LmXW4uGjck9EAXL0d/0Kxsp05N1CuQfRwKQgkMGO3BIX+P8bla7e DpohW9hrzPBSEiN74s5W4s8hI2+fl4v2vTAk2QMGq9777Liul2k14QI8Q68/pGoa4jQC 4JK+k9AR0F7aUpYHV7jyc5fVwelkSvdt/W34I5Q4dq5O2r68c9tjgfXxMm/hE2Sp6JHS wjSfp6JWvm9cavpFXU6EsrGJawQ/arOyTI5CYhd9GAPBAP67xdsSLt4wQ6ppjWtBd7vi KTCw== ph8mr18482130pac.51.1413450224379; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.41.71 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:03:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <015d01cfe917$7e464dd0$7ad2e970$@tpg.com.au> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:03:44 +0800 From: Alan Seigrist To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] GPS Machine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net My view is that Tom Tom still has the best in standard method for giving instructions, followed by Garmin. There are others but trust me they all suck. If you know how to take instructions with the Tom Tom, stick with them, and just get one of their units that have all what you want. GARMIN is starting to sell HUD units that communicate with your phone, however, but I think that's just a bit gadgety at this time. Cheers, Alan On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day > > > > A few years back a few folks were very helpful before I bought my first > GPS. > > > > Now I am thinking of my second one, but have decided that I want one with > an > altimeter as well as a compass. > > > > My current machine is a Tom Tom which I like and managed to fit it quite > successfully to my positive earthed Austin-Healey. > > > > Does anyone know? > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 03:50:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671A42585049 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 03:50:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f175.google.com (mail-qc0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7392580470 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 03:49:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id b13so2711375qcw.6 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:52:15 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=c6K6Of2mn+gOOly/vPJg9vjO5SqzzmNT6yytV/nfYiM=; b=bk1AM8scd9tuDmqJSGB3RjfkUbCuYfQXghT3ZbrW33LJCw6o2diokD5/QQvRn8RyqI N2T9RWSmznDVg3hqoPF0KNhrynfEBmTRCvpNaRQghw3V4IEiIVi9CxlVQemwjx5O8olG ORihcY00Eqt+ewG5DHldsCnjeNm4GDOaqPwaAtpcSoeTWu/g7l24jwEASqZ+nuewRmBh Knpg+ODaa6kjGu44O2lfMePyDxBpi6eJuuDWvV4AZuuf08l7U9yOK6qZKFrfJWgb0DGz 2HBnRmRMzQqnsej/a0V38l+bDLEGu8VlyKj09nPp4WhB8YL6/4TvPS9IsIliY4AHxo6q p7hA== g11mr391419qgf.38.1413453135742; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.96.72 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:52:15 -0700 (PDT) References: <015d01cfe917$7e464dd0$7ad2e970$@tpg.com.au> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:52:15 +0100 From: Derek Job To: Alan Seigrist Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] GPS Machine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I have owned Tom Tom and Garmin. Here in the UK and Europe I found Tom Tom to be much better. The maps are better, the routes were better and the display is better. Derek On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > My view is that Tom Tom still has the best in standard method for giving > instructions, followed by Garmin. There are others but trust me they all > suck. > > If you know how to take instructions with the Tom Tom, stick with them, and > just get one of their units that have all what you want. > > GARMIN is starting to sell HUD units that communicate with your phone, > however, but I think that's just a bit gadgety at this time. > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn < > p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > > G'day > > > > > > > > A few years back a few folks were very helpful before I bought my first > > GPS. > > > > > > > > Now I am thinking of my second one, but have decided that I want one with > > an > > altimeter as well as a compass. > > > > > > > > My current machine is a Tom Tom which I like and managed to fit it quite > > successfully to my positive earthed Austin-Healey. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know? > > > > > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > > > > > Patrick Quinn > > > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 03:51:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437592584FC3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 03:51:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f178.google.com (mail-ig0-f178.google.com [209.85.213.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967A52584E89 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 03:51:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f178.google.com with SMTP id h3so3059150igd.17 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:54:21 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=53FLIKzFr/mJIdq1kcmZdNd5soSvcom4mdSCnWcMI4g=; b=ti3nF/W+8suH9Y9KfBvLnp9kIRyV/nd9kgMDjWlqqqrNZNK3khcJw6RFNK0rnhy1iH GkGmuftdfmtzzQAv9OW/PFElzXDsvdehA2x4QyVIfAFMKFvZt4TarGTOxRlJNr1J3Jwb 9TdAJdsbBXFkVeLkvg8DofNuPGvVi4gskPbzlsDex4kwNPPz3KuMe1oiqqCGcbNTwuru ChqCyrDpKhY0IFq3INzVVYHS7px4Ng6Ngrs/D+pSQZkVAxeZijTDn0+b8eUMZOUSqgUD 23D9kGiMomIA7oxvAH9aQKnve3Tg9Cyitv/nxmPjIu24FITbDsUgAXZyPbXCwS3HOXIH IjsA== gi6mr3175982icb.20.1413453261760; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.254.162 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:54:21 -0700 (PDT) References: <015d01cfe917$7e464dd0$7ad2e970$@tpg.com.au> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:54:21 +0800 From: Alan Seigrist To: Derek Job Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] GPS Machine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Agreed. Tom Tom is just that much better in Asia too. I think Garmin is good for the US, but Tom Tom is better everywhere else. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Derek Job wrote: > I have owned Tom Tom and Garmin. Here in the UK and Europe I found Tom Tom > to be much better. The maps are better, the routes were better and the > display is better. > > Derek > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Alan Seigrist > wrote: > >> My view is that Tom Tom still has the best in standard method for giving >> instructions, followed by Garmin. There are others but trust me they all >> suck. >> >> If you know how to take instructions with the Tom Tom, stick with them, >> and >> just get one of their units that have all what you want. >> >> GARMIN is starting to sell HUD units that communicate with your phone, >> however, but I think that's just a bit gadgety at this time. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn < >> p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote: >> >> > G'day >> > >> > >> > >> > A few years back a few folks were very helpful before I bought my first >> > GPS. >> > >> > >> > >> > Now I am thinking of my second one, but have decided that I want one >> with >> > an >> > altimeter as well as a compass. >> > >> > >> > >> > My current machine is a Tom Tom which I like and managed to fit it quite >> > successfully to my positive earthed Austin-Healey. >> > >> > >> > >> > Does anyone know? >> > >> > >> > >> > Hoo Roo >> > >> > >> > >> > Patrick Quinn >> > >> > Blue Mountains, Australia >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > >> > Healeys@autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 03:56:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A666E2584FAD for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 03:56:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f173.google.com (mail-qc0-f173.google.com [209.85.216.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9152580470 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 03:56:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id w7so2433965qcr.18 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:59:39 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=yS585nkUtg9p2fm69oni5/TOMUYDdgeUA/j5iiVIEeU=; b=i0bqDxTXnfqAnXEkYbos15PbQzIeXDJ+myuVXRLeN0+TtV1jBGsso2frloH2Y9fDMP 3Hr0PTlllSOeT70SmF5DxJ5C/1YxR3oCdHE9MlFEWLJAmREjObJobqfvNPQ09xWzI3cQ uV6hxGmxiAsPgsYoiYn3XJclfHfM/Mc5fue5KLyHoEr82SCz2zyM21X7OriiOmVTs8cw 47G/tQm/QzOj3oesmuc46dSy1NmiE03iZwQPcCRooeWjm8DZzCtfEzs6czA33YskToDy K0uBtfJf5NQuFlWf6QnbL9mOXCchMq/0UTFOJTVpeBwdmxargFux3dYp4dqQl+SowqDk Lf8Q== md8mr445866qcb.7.1413453578910; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.96.72 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:59:38 -0700 (PDT) References: <015d01cfe917$7e464dd0$7ad2e970$@tpg.com.au> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:59:38 +0100 From: Derek Job To: Alan Seigrist Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] GPS Machine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net ...forgot to add that Tom Tom for about B#120 is also much better than the satnav in my Jaguar XF and is far better than the BMW and Audi versions as well. But then they 'only' cost about B#1,800 as an option. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Agreed. Tom Tom is just that much better in Asia too. I think Garmin is > good for the US, but Tom Tom is better everywhere else. > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Derek Job wrote: > >> I have owned Tom Tom and Garmin. Here in the UK and Europe I found Tom >> Tom to be much better. The maps are better, the routes were better and the >> display is better. >> >> Derek >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Alan Seigrist >> wrote: >> >>> My view is that Tom Tom still has the best in standard method for giving >>> instructions, followed by Garmin. There are others but trust me they all >>> suck. >>> >>> If you know how to take instructions with the Tom Tom, stick with them, >>> and >>> just get one of their units that have all what you want. >>> >>> GARMIN is starting to sell HUD units that communicate with your phone, >>> however, but I think that's just a bit gadgety at this time. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn < >>> p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> > G'day >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > A few years back a few folks were very helpful before I bought my first >>> > GPS. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Now I am thinking of my second one, but have decided that I want one >>> with >>> > an >>> > altimeter as well as a compass. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > My current machine is a Tom Tom which I like and managed to fit it >>> quite >>> > successfully to my positive earthed Austin-Healey. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Does anyone know? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hoo Roo >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Patrick Quinn >>> > >>> > Blue Mountains, Australia >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> > >>> > Healeys@autox.team.net >>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> > >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> >>> Healeys@autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 05:39:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A9A258502F for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:39:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep41.mx.upcmail.net (fep41.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057692584E89 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:38:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe41-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141016114205.QDZX20014.viepfeppe41-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:42:05 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 3ni31p00T0Hh4wo01ni3aB; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:42:03 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:42:01 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <015d01cfe917$7e464dd0$7ad2e970$@tpg.com.au> Subject: Re: [Healeys] GPS Machine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net TomTom and Garmin are the best. The display and instructions are best on the TomTom, maps and speed can be better on the Garmin. In the past I have done some consumer tests on sat navs and TomTom always came out best followed closely by Garmin. For both counts that you are generally best off with the simpler and cheaper devices as the expensive ones have so many possibilities that using them becomes very complex. These devises are also far better than the very expensive integrated systems. For one these are usually in the wrong spot, low down in the dash, the TomTom and Garmin can be placed right in the line of your vision, and updates cost a bloody fortune while updates for the TomTom and Garmin are free for as long as you have it. Kees Oudesluijs Derek Job schreef op 16-10-2014 11:59: > ...forgot to add that Tom Tom for about B#120 is also much better than the > satnav in my Jaguar XF and is far better than the BMW and Audi versions as > well. But then they 'only' cost about B#1,800 as an option. > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Alan Seigrist > wrote: > >> Agreed. Tom Tom is just that much better in Asia too. I think Garmin is >> good for the US, but Tom Tom is better everywhere else. >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Derek Job wrote: >> >>> I have owned Tom Tom and Garmin. Here in the UK and Europe I found Tom >>> Tom to be much better. The maps are better, the routes were better and the >>> display is better. >>> >>> Derek >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Alan Seigrist >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My view is that Tom Tom still has the best in standard method for giving >>>> instructions, followed by Garmin. There are others but trust me they all >>>> suck. >>>> >>>> If you know how to take instructions with the Tom Tom, stick with them, >>>> and >>>> just get one of their units that have all what you want. >>>> >>>> GARMIN is starting to sell HUD units that communicate with your phone, >>>> however, but I think that's just a bit gadgety at this time. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn < >>>> p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>>> G'day >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A few years back a few folks were very helpful before I bought my first >>>>> GPS. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Now I am thinking of my second one, but have decided that I want one >>>> with >>>>> an >>>>> altimeter as well as a compass. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My current machine is a Tom Tom which I like and managed to fit it >>>> quite >>>>> successfully to my positive earthed Austin-Healey. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hoo Roo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Patrick Quinn >>>>> >>>>> Blue Mountains, Australia >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> >>>>> Healeys@autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> >>>> Healeys@autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8397 - datum van uitgifte: 10/16/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 05:50:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC14D258506A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:50:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DE52584E89 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:45:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [24.25.129.242] ([24.25.129.242:51488] helo=Leviathon) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id D7/4B-12289-490BF345; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:48:36 +0000 From: "Bill" To: References: <000001cfe8fb$430fad90$c92f08b0$@com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:48:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Somewhere on a planet deep in the galaxy a long, long time ago, mid 1960's, still in high school and having relatively good hearing, I was the proud owner of a very tired 9 year old 1954, 100-4. I spent a lot of time tinkering with my baby. One of the fun things things to do was adjusting the SU's. Having little to no extra spending money in those days, I always made use of the tube and listen method to do the carb adjustments. I'm sure by todays standards with O2 sensors, meters and the like this method and the results would be considered to be crude at best. However the car always ran up to my expectations and I had some great times driving it. Since then I've had more than a few vehicles to drive and some have even been equipped with the latest in fuel economy visual driving gauges or aids, more than likely just a plain old o;?vacuum gauges, including my 2014 RAM. I have, after much thought decided that they are all rubbish and not worth the bother. Short story, tune it good enough to pass any inspection requirements and run down the road and enjoy it. Mine sits in the barn in a sorry state of disassembly. To be enjoyed by memory only. I had many plans for it but they never came to fruition. Oh! but, back in the day, long rides in the country, prom dates, weddings, rides to the race track and just trips to get an ice cream cone or burger. What Fun! -----Original Message----- From: Steve Gerow Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:40 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Peter Roses and I have been using the K&N meters for a couple of years. We're big fans of this setup. The square meter is the least expensive. Save some money by buying the single-wire O2 sensors and mounting bungs from an auto parts store. I've noticed the leaning on acceleration (one carb only) and abated it by using heavier dashpot oil. It's easy to experiment with dashpot oil and springs with the meter. -- Steve Gerow BN6 morphed into a Test Bed Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/wkollar@nycap.rr.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 05:52:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54845258507D for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829A92584E89 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:52:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.104]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3nvR1p0052Fh1PH01nvr4T; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:55:51 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([98.207.131.183]) by resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3nvp1p00W3xa1La01nvqtY; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:55:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 04:55:41 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Steve Gerow , healeys@autox.team.net References: <000001cfe8fb$430fad90$c92f08b0$@com> s=q20140121; t=1413460551; bh=FzijrUWAT5bIt5No1Gn3q93LAJi+Aqo5HiDpG+Hsqqg=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=tJJln79FFSYGoaaE8bNmb8/zZG18AJAGojfsyFHiV9DXt5o7i8wk7QVCt55c86cHU HMAvikpD0OBBF7mOmHoM0vTmS5RMrv5U1UdlRFDUDKzsQtQjYZWDvCAQzTxDMANzZ0 TJ1DI3Em0eI5PZFh7SRTNP5SU0X+F+WfAaXKObOAttx1He6oErGyfxZBxWsm+ic9Fm R/qb74F9JxvL1OOQRIEmhsT+Ocvyzz7oohx5RDT7MedGcElceCVe9XNpi/iB+OJgWW uob+rEJYLdRd11cjPcbGi9BPs1jtq+0Yy3MEWIaKXJ2Ej40EUTbk6LQQmKAeWiAtnb exHL21XpcENBQ== Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody ever fit these to a positive ground car? Bob On 10/15/2014 9:40 PM, Steve Gerow wrote: > Peter Roses and I have been using the K&N meters for a couple of years. > We're big fans of this setup. > > > > The square meter is the least expensive. > > > > Save some money by buying the single-wire O2 sensors and mounting bungs from > an auto parts store. > > > > I've noticed the leaning on acceleration (one carb only) and abated it by > using heavier dashpot oil. It's easy to experiment with dashpot oil and > springs with the meter. > > > > > > -- > > Steve Gerow > > BN6 morphed into a Test Bed > _______________________________________________ > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell@comcast.net > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 06:13:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF8C25850F1 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout06.plus.net (avasout06.plus.net [212.159.14.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF722585023 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:13:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([87.112.25.87]) by avasout06 with smtp id 3oGh1p0041slCVB01oGjXj; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:16:43 +0100 a=1uwUSpyBd3I/bLgxl1OsJw==:117 a=1uwUSpyBd3I/bLgxl1OsJw==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=2ciaTQvf_9oA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Ve7uU-hMDeKmFqGgOk0A:9 a=j0T27gATlsvMEri9:21 a=IBkhnMgsFhn5Ip7Y:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=GRuFdhU3rW4A:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: "'Patrick & Caroline Quinn'" References: <015d01cfe917$7e464dd0$7ad2e970$@tpg.com.au> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:16:40 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac/pFxrkkGYlu0vRRfyP0bFU/oCYxAAIzl5g Content-Language: en-gb Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] GPS Machine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I have a Garmin. Seems to me that it's maps are fine but it's pronunciation is awful. It is so bad that, by the time you've worked out what it's trying to say, you've gone through the intersection none the wiser. It was bad in Northern Ireland the other day, where they speak English. In France, its rendering of French place names was truly execrable. Try going round the Paris Peripherique with my Garmin. Awful. Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: 16 October 2014 09:02 To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] GPS Machine G'day A few years back a few folks were very helpful before I bought my first GPS. Now I am thinking of my second one, but have decided that I want one with an altimeter as well as a compass. My current machine is a Tom Tom which I like and managed to fit it quite successfully to my positive earthed Austin-Healey. Does anyone know? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 06:43:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0E72585142 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:43:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m5.mx.aol.com (omr-m5.mx.aol.com [64.12.232.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58B72584894 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:42:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.208]) by omr-m5.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DE2293800007D; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lka10a.mail.aol.com (core-lka10.mail.aol.com [10.76.33.10]) by mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8B0BA38000086; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:45:48 -0400 (EDT) References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <543E7F88.4010101@att.net> <543E85E4.5020800@comcast.net> <543E8926.8080603@comcast.net> To: bspidell@comcast.net, robertlarson@att.net Received: from 99.63.22.156 by webmail-vm182.sysops.aol.com (149.174.154.176) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:45:48 -0400 From: warthodson@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:45:48 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413463549; bh=4nKjrv/qKAmIBAzXRwFJannD36q2QdapWN+s3GwN8nE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w9uqIZ+etFDqOQxEP0JoYOUURZ5O7XBVATI3feoQpi4Di3tw+U7grGT5cBAVoBd0G bfms5DuYB42luZSIIBPX6TaNvBgXauz5AEIUwQpIjwMbQfvNdlTFqDV6FWBBdgOgks EcmUVOIdlNZrB0Rw3UL0B7eUMmtxnzm8KBkOOZHI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1addd0543fbdfc07ed Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I would expect the coolant boiling point to be above 212 F due to the increased pressure from the radiator cap & also the coolant being a mix of water & anti freeze. This seems to indicate that your gage is inaccurate or the coolant is not actually boiling, but then you would not expect it to rise to exactly 212 every time. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spidell To: robertlarson Cc: Healey Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 1:29 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Also, on a warm day when I shut down the temp will go to exactly 212degF (100degC), which gives me more confidence the gauge is correct (what my dad calls 'latent heat' causes the coolant to go the boiling point). Bob _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 06:54:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEA32585198 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:54:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A9125805EC for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:54:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.232]) by resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3ovl1p004516pyw01oxUeP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:57:28 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([98.207.131.183]) by resomta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3oxT1p0083xa1La01oxTiF; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:57:28 +0000 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:57:26 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: warthodson@aol.com, robertlarson@att.net References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <543E7F88.4010101@att.net> <543E85E4.5020800@comcast.net> <543E8926.8080603@comcast.net> <8D1B7563EAA0BF5-69C-376ED@webmail-vm182.sysops.aol.com> s=q20140121; t=1413464248; bh=4g0qL9QgxCtXRTwUGeKnZ4qBBxPo9+mxbxzVeC57ALk=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=EdYmUMYV3hnt3d4dZnusXz9ty1nGHoTOSguK7TR7rntxESI4zQPiubKUbWGS1rTQ7 l9l+Noov02Uytmzj25DXstysyMu644m2LJd79Cszhucqe8RCqWCGsD4VoE7uObHSbb zG2v4bakV+aoFh0hVOjodgg3wPQSeCAs1GEpn4mgOERQEefK4zlF/g3iaoDXSZNqMf So+0EkAx+jrDITFfEzmEUtqIdi2I21eKeE8WUysIfk0FO0w6cwiuztwp7sBwdMI4LB QuXSjkr7Jf+H6f+XMXaWnLuEG6D3sTWlrdfp8HojKJodK8X7hF6DttDABCx2MeTelT FKsGLWvJONWjA== Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net It doesn't boil, just goes to 212 then gradually cools. Yes, with a 7psi cap boiling would be a few degrees higher (forget the exact formula). Also, doesn't always go to 212, only when it's a warm day and the engine is running nominal temp (180) or better. This seems intuitively correct, but I can't explain it. It seems the 'latent heat' will increase the temps, but only to a point (no additional heat is added since combustion has ceased). Any thermodynamicists out there who can explain this? Bob On 10/16/2014 5:45 AM, warthodson@aol.com wrote: > I would expect the coolant boiling point to be above 212 F due to the increased pressure from the radiator cap & also > the coolant being a mix of water & anti freeze. > This seems to indicate that your gage is inaccurate or the coolant is not actually boiling, but then you would not > expect it to rise to exactly 212 every time. > Gary Hodson > > > Also, on a warm day when I shut down the temp will go to exactly 212degF > (100degC), which gives me more confidence the > gauge is correct (what my dad calls 'latent heat' causes the coolant to go the > boiling point). > > Bob > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 07:06:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDC125851CB for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:06:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2164525805EC for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:03:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id wm4so2775111obc.40 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:06:19 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SJyTERQV0B+NSTm3NheOGstbeTiT5Zopi2G9XB52En0=; b=MaqIfamBHD5jI3ZAuJ+YBecuRv/G9q5Uo1m1x+tVjNk9Q2iNaNfauqWeeS9Onc2FfS W3I2HQk5v120YSqhx2Xf+sREQ5dBeVNt7UyMBUXrALfL/AtcxZ5TZ1WuPwo+0FsZ8D/c BxQ0Kj3XwNwtHZ0QD9eCugmR7zS0ZThnUXf2F+W9Ooto1AnRtSgFkFxQjstuv4yILPvQ yfhi9Z8uFswe5qRO5obGiSbT88xG4U5lhgcvs51+lPhSihMf7+FlUTpwep/ACX1uAwsa duTgs6Hm9Av18DliZCEfgMBihPS5DJfOBdYn4dyEwC6uR+DAe24gejYHSNALntYwwJPU 1GLQ== Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:06:19 -0700 (PDT) References: <015d01cfe917$7e464dd0$7ad2e970$@tpg.com.au> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:06:19 -0700 From: I Erbs To: Patrick and Caroline Quinn Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] GPS Machine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net My smartphone has supplanted my GPS, because of the very apps you describe. Ira Erbs Portland,OR IT Educator and Consultant sent from my smartphone. what you get, May not be what I meant to send On Oct 16, 2014 1:02 AM, "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" wrote: > G'day > > > > A few years back a few folks were very helpful before I bought my first > GPS. > > > > Now I am thinking of my second one, but have decided that I want one with > an > altimeter as well as a compass. > > > > My current machine is a Tom Tom which I like and managed to fit it quite > successfully to my positive earthed Austin-Healey. > > > > Does anyone know? > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 07:22:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3342A25851E5 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:22:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.cal.net (smtp.cal.net [216.57.71.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD0625805EC for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:21:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail.cal.net (mail.cal.net [216.57.71.23]) by smtp.cal.net with ESMTP id rT42X68UUBNg00Dc; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9051508026; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DKx5uS2tnJ7l; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cal.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A41A20006A; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:24:44 -0700 (PDT) From: goldengt@cal.net To: Steve Gerow (Win)/7.2.3_GA_2872) TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=9.0 KILL_LEVEL=7.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 NO_REAL_NAME From: does not include a real name Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Single wire O2 didn't work for me as it didn't get hot enough for a steady signal. I needed to use the 3 wire. Ken Freese ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Gerow" To: healeys@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:40:01 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Peter Roses and I have been using the K&N meters for a couple of years. We're big fans of this setup. The square meter is the least expensive. Save some money by buying the single-wire O2 sensors and mounting bungs from an auto parts store. I've noticed the leaning on acceleration (one carb only) and abated it by using heavier dashpot oil. It's easy to experiment with dashpot oil and springs with the meter. -- Steve Gerow BN6 morphed into a Test Bed Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 10:07:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5B12585294 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:07:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from hoster902.com (hoster902.com [64.14.72.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7159258520D for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:02:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 27418 invoked by uid 503); 16 Oct 2014 16:05:54 -0000 Received: from 71-95-207-154.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com (HELO PEECEEDELL) (steveg@71.95.207.154) by hoster902.com with ESMTPA; 16 Oct 2014 16:05:54 -0000 From: "Steve Gerow" To: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:05:47 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/pWwwKYdPrBLsXTDKcz5azk7ZmVg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net > Single wire O2 didn't work for me as it didn't get hot enough for a steady signal. I needed to use the 3 wire. > Ken Freese > Interesting, Ken - where did you install them? This shows Peter's and my installations in the down pipes near the frame rail - both get hot enough in 30 secs or so. http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/exhaustanalyzer We each bought a K&N square-gauge kit and in turn tried running both gauges at the same time. Eventually we went to a switch as you have. Peter's using both the K&N O2 sensors and I'm using two <$20 Bosch sensors - all of which seem to work well. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA BN6 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 10:08:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAB925852C3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from hoster902.com (hoster902.com [64.14.72.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75142585289 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:07:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 2541 invoked by uid 503); 16 Oct 2014 16:10:17 -0000 Received: from 71-95-207-154.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com (HELO PEECEEDELL) (steveg@71.95.207.154) by hoster902.com with ESMTPA; 16 Oct 2014 16:10:17 -0000 From: "Steve Gerow" To: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:10:17 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/pW615WMPrnmp9QueNE+2UjT3sHw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] AF meter SU tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Bob Spidell wrote: <<< Anybody ever fit these to a positive ground car? I'd certainly give K&N a call in Riverside. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA, USA BN6 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 10:11:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88D925852D5 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:11:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC237258527F for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:11:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id m8so3203124obr.0 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:14:38 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ArdfiHO7O9pCq5Bh+Q36OQuG84UXYCeG5d3Fkztctok=; b=cZoLFrENNCeD+rU0nroC9wSdkfWOX+ypTUQeybktjmfgLfmb1IrcQFi3jtgu+W2s5E j9emuNtFCdBNEGwswroC3pKMTk2BptdQ8Aoxf+RIuaShyyOdNleNAhIr0IPUNxv/tefw hlnkQsswc/+vBpQCYb3J4NJOcb/izsOWQv83EvY40Ny9stBjzDWe3NiC1IV98losSE7w csyIq54hX1OmZP62D60bEw0JKUIBLlmks4DMIevKW7a/GYGHptMnAKAcuKJgACwn9FUb Qa1ruHWTgRB/hy05Nu4hasH/gp6a/vjngJ8r8DUpbWddLIa+0rcv6FJk2zkYyMWvYyB6 mx2w== bo17mr1900842oec.50.1413476078008; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:14:06 -0700 (PDT) From: I Erbs Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:14:06 -0700 To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Blue and OEW paint codes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net A while back someone was looking for formulas for White and blue paint. I found a document Rich Chrysler sent me with PPG formula for OEW and Sherwin Williams formula for Ice Blue. Contact me off list if interested. BTW 17060 is a good PPG # for ice blue. Its what I used on my car Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 12:22:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781932584981 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:22:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7842580782 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id gm9so3401152lab.27 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Qi0Z1NgcQqNXZKBQi/SgbC/wJxLb26RYrLtV29ryMcA=; b=DqNrMN4ExYFSaN/VzjypWZdmth0BjWtu/OVxk5XqnWitIy6xhslpNRrtuOdC5JACHg ++7JSta90sJBXMA449vljyBcfTRQgiVlq+7puUw9oJOYsXj0T0m1cb6Col7MsMWhNQyq lGBXynbHWGWtmfsV6enbjOzwbDpv+093a2C/uKg+Y435cgUUeaGZ45sDs/ckYpn293QF QEJNPvP6FVYDvZFB6zb+18ATD7K5Rxc4fx3pazxlEjDjkK/HYKHzheWWoPnL98CokEkk 3k6+a7uCGSn+hXy6rRZ4Q4GpRkS0pnsg76fim1EG0vA1sRGWkKd5Ya5E4kkqgjAAhLeI sRBg== qh2mr3528731lbc.5.1413483842203; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.196 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:24:02 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I figure that if we can discuss the merits of various brands of GPS I can ask this question. I have been around British cars for about 50 years and worked on them professionally for 30 so I have a pretty good understanding of how to fix them..i.e. no obvious suggestions!! My daily driver (summer) is a 1967 Morris Mini Cooper S. It has recently developed a misfire on one cylinder..the problem sometimes goes away after driving for a couple of miles but not always. The engine runs both at idle and higher RPM on 3 cylinders... When I check the plugs #2 plug is wet and obviously not firing. Swap #4 & #2 plugs and the same cylinder, #2 still misfires and wets its plug. Compression test shows all cylinders even at about 160 p.s.i. Install a spark tester (gap) between the plug cap and the plug of #2 cylinder and the engine runs, still on 3 cylinders, with a very healthy 3/4" spark showing in the tester. This to my mind eliminates almost any ignition problem as the likely cause. Both valves for #2 cylinder open and close a lot (649 cam). Checked the points cam and it opens correctly for all cylinders. Fitted a replacement distributor cap and rotor...no change. I'm starting to run out of ideas here.. Disassembled both carbs, and checked the fuel supply and float float level on each. Now I'm really running out of ideas!!!! Help...... Michael S BN1 #174 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 12:37:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1862584FDE for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:37:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm16-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F2D2580BB7 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:37:13 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1413484826; bh=RxZZdIb+egz3mV9G/DB1/zkMANbmZcayKd/Y5F0LA0s=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=e4ols1KFVxWfwVwEwh0RXs9r/DLqaOR27JulrNBh6LhchymuBs9RPIqTo/5KnMagJiCg1xa9pndX0IMQcgKiKnTm7lzU4gkoI/z5XE4pvIyZHpJKygAcFRkTVaT9HU99g+oCWftw6f9uDm8GQqj6saBsaGlkH9WT0L5APcwZRJI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=Y5n+bMbu0b+SnZKQJYKCbsjE0VpsQuvVvnE6oL/f1LCpO4LBcjIyDpGNmOhayOqoSAOxTn9uOkowjAA0d6K1Vqx+xiUpy7UsilPaa+d+O1yqkPveZXP4gsUZ7I1m59k2E9ZmYCvEzVYLt2brpYyF0I1YQcQBMYgm5Oi4UdYUtys=; Received: from [66.196.81.166] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2014 18:40:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.100] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2014 18:40:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2014 18:40:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413484826; bh=RxZZdIb+egz3mV9G/DB1/zkMANbmZcayKd/Y5F0LA0s=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=nsudG0AdBgFi+r9e/Tv6jngfN06HXSRoIB7a2q7L9ZCaWxHB+7MvusrTiDxl2vAmvwxnytJbKK/f48i5cyqkeya1llBAudOu34iO1YQgBQE+mnTwa/J47/3Zxe5Toopgdx2HldAUmLQZ3KzsD6dekODVDSpw/jxN2Z5az9+E1rw= hgqerDktYjqFrPOtXGwLW5cAoaaxDqPKb2H6E6X3S3H.FVQqOkOz0.lit4i3 MTiUrUJef0FErLMhOaMrHYqjLuJQzM5LHXw5S7RSFOEmIUPWJF6o8sh15rmY z9F5Xc2Hr5lyNVNZtqFcgiw1.eLAbJrZGwkOeZeGdGo_E9yw.SofySun1OvE a6.2RiMvx7vAN9KDV3nBduIq8J21S9jmDE4Ok.V0_5fVf28xJi2LKi0sltHw 85vEWUsxv4BKvB0O7XBrqKiQC1RAfXslm.SiRBSJZ5IElySRFi6be3sCPLBT gk92GZh0i4IVdCBR1I32VazNYCT70zgxJgaJIi6326qAzjtXvA6PuX1Advpw DN2RqrPaveS0vkMrZUdcqJKzSH7lZjf.koMq4EnT_gjf5J39czzdsNbxqDE. CgsumAt1uz9Uop34x5tiWzprmXDC4_iZsMRMLawFX3uzt2LydIoumjCuLQOf 0scsC7urYNmjC5oAgdwY3C1j.DMPzv7d3tP2Va4eS1K_nZKcuAdhMSezyJ26 a4FDJpwTDXD_K6_JAigggl0bL4g0yaLwAE7SteEh3mODbqkcV4PG.2Iri4Ap oOFIE73OT5mo6ARRTEj70A_0ykABovAmab1SvNmUIAuXvZFL0nn6mOyGtCqn _yMgYzf294j4- From: "David Nock BCS" To: "Michael Salter" , References: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:40:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Intake manifold intemittent leak due to heat David Nock British Car Specialists 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:24 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S I figure that if we can discuss the merits of various brands of GPS I can ask this question. I have been around British cars for about 50 years and worked on them professionally for 30 so I have a pretty good understanding of how to fix them..i.e. no obvious suggestions!! My daily driver (summer) is a 1967 Morris Mini Cooper S. It has recently developed a misfire on one cylinder..the problem sometimes goes away after driving for a couple of miles but not always. The engine runs both at idle and higher RPM on 3 cylinders... When I check the plugs #2 plug is wet and obviously not firing. Swap #4 & #2 plugs and the same cylinder, #2 still misfires and wets its plug. Compression test shows all cylinders even at about 160 p.s.i. Install a spark tester (gap) between the plug cap and the plug of #2 cylinder and the engine runs, still on 3 cylinders, with a very healthy 3/4" spark showing in the tester. This to my mind eliminates almost any ignition problem as the likely cause. Both valves for #2 cylinder open and close a lot (649 cam). Checked the points cam and it opens correctly for all cylinders. Fitted a replacement distributor cap and rotor...no change. I'm starting to run out of ideas here.. Disassembled both carbs, and checked the fuel supply and float float level on each. Now I'm really running out of ideas!!!! Help...... Michael S BN1 #174 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 12:52:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2C02584FBB for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:52:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3592580A68 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:46:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [134.126.86.137] (ip86-137.jmu.edu [134.126.86.137]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NDJ000MTWBHDH80@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for healeys@autox.team.net; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:50:06 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-16_08:2014-10-16,2014-10-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410160170 From: Linwood Rose Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:51:43 -0400 To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] Adding a starter relay question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net For those who are more knowledgable than I regarding automotive electrical systems (that should just about include most of you!), I have a question. The application is not a Healey but I figure someone here will know. If I wanted to add a starter relay to the ignition/starter wiring system system. Should the relay go between the solenoid and the starter button, or should it go between the ignition switch and the starter button? I assume it should go between the solenoid and the starter button thereby relieving both the button and the switch. However, I know it is always better to ask than assume. Thank you! _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 12:52:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13DA2584E89 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:52:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f45.google.com (mail-oi0-f45.google.com [209.85.218.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C7A2580A68 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:48:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i138so3156329oig.4 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:51:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=x1PyNrTbhUZ4v11URokQqSERD9RH3w9Xy348XrXMSe8=; b=oTwQHFMF08h1g2wUAq3HCUpNda7uwMyd7w6qUJV8t9fUAFh7SC27x5zE2xxMIkDHlG 0TdbXF87rN1QAskPwxKN6O5owfWxkvv/RfcdQleyQu8NkUKtN6sTN8cUyGRJcAu8SoAI KJJ8R+e2JdZsFU9xLXkvFPGUIqUgQLuZA9rNIIROZsIQi4S2e+6n6jkyjCM/WLab+baM NbwW3J/ZXa5s7hkXEOkCgIDnrqakN+sFLD164GM0STMPtytJKZIUMTGwygLkR0Yr0WfX o2qidHYcoKTW6rmJtK+/07rXxMoMjXnJ8AA0KenF62ToUEfIr6dSCemg88JavpUQb1Jx liuA== d6mr2352650oif.33.1413485477896; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:50:47 -0700 (PDT) From: I Erbs Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:50:47 -0700 To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] paint codes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I got more emails than I expected. I have requested John Sims upload the info to his site. Hopefully he will let us know when it is posted. Ira Erbs IT Teacher and Consultant Portland, OR Your worst day at work is better than your best day in Prison Darrin King _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 13:07:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E942584FE2 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:07:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep43.mx.upcmail.net (fep43.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB652580A68 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:02:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe43-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141016190513.GWPI8410.viepfeppe43-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:05:13 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 3v5A1p01h0Hh4wo01v5BJh; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:05:11 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:05:10 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I would still try a new sparkplug AND lead for no. 2. I had a similar problem with my JH years ago in the late seventies on my holidays in France for about a fortnight. Dismantled the whole chibang several times, no luck and finally came to the conclusion that is was the plug lead. I went to one of those small road side garages and asked for a plug lead. He asked: for what car? I told him it was for a Jensen Healey. He did not have any! I tried to explain that any thing of a suitable length was OK but he still maintained that it would not work. I then asked him if I could take a plug lead of one of the scrap 2-CV's lying about in the yard. "OK, go ahead if you must, but it will not work" . He was absolutely dumbfounded when the engine started up as sweet as a nut. I was his knowledgeable hero of the day. Kees Oudesluijs Michael Salter schreef op 16-10-2014 20:24: > I figure that if we can discuss the merits of various brands of GPS I can > ask this question. > I have been around British cars for about 50 years and worked on them > professionally for 30 so I have a pretty good understanding of how to fix > them..i.e. no obvious suggestions!! > My daily driver (summer) is a 1967 Morris Mini Cooper S. > It has recently developed a misfire on one cylinder..the problem sometimes > goes away after driving for a couple of miles but not always. > The engine runs both at idle and higher RPM on 3 cylinders... > When I check the plugs #2 plug is wet and obviously not firing. > Swap #4 & #2 plugs and the same cylinder, #2 still misfires and wets its > plug. > Compression test shows all cylinders even at about 160 p.s.i. > Install a spark tester (gap) between the plug cap and the plug of #2 > cylinder and the engine runs, still on 3 cylinders, with a very healthy > 3/4" spark showing in the tester. This to my mind eliminates almost any > ignition problem as the likely cause. > Both valves for #2 cylinder open and close a lot (649 cam). > Checked the points cam and it opens correctly for all cylinders. > Fitted a replacement distributor cap and rotor...no change. > I'm starting to run out of ideas here.. > Disassembled both carbs, and checked the fuel supply and float float level > on each. > Now I'm really running out of ideas!!!! Help...... > Michael S > BN1 #174 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8400 - datum van uitgifte: 10/16/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 13:11:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E862584FF1 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:11:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490912580A68 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:11:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.107]) by resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3vDa1p0072Ka2Q501vEhxS; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:14:41 +0000 Received: from voodoodaddy ([71.181.10.220]) by resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3vEY1p00K4kr9En01vEbN2; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:14:39 +0000 From: "Michael Brouillette" To: "'Ahealey help'" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:14:31 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/pdQHlHBLGVpfYQVei7aFBvVEEFQ== Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1413486881; bh=JVmfaESDRY+KH67T6QGMJeVhRVRBlrl6RQAweoxbAlE=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=KDLZjkfkC8u4qJSU9B9bxkfpDFGwWMCBWVV4apu3RbW+cpC+K3Z49t1kxVHRb3GJz WWSUZtg0DI3jSFPlzXe2BD2cOZhgIoraSxgGdZ4fW23hjtu/OReHqaX02cZberSeAb 1T7bj6WfADJlwUlUS9lcpVSQrNaXfAvSvxb/LHy27Wi8IEH8pzQbQDVZlCz84ZvT0y q0bGhYQTMxwuIjetcQ0BJ+p2L5wT8/vi++qTgvbymPKo+3y07LpLTqFj16resyfiME pto7vqKqaF6fdDU5zvC90fzt+uw2m8KTV6ofuZp0koST2mweM4o4p8gYcVzUAmVaKQ d36hRokWlG1pA== Subject: [Healeys] Non Healey: anyone know anything about the Bentley Tesonaso Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Folks, I was wandering around the web after someone posted on bring-a-trailer about a 55 Bentley S1 in NJ that was in rough shape for $2500 and I started to daydream of what I could do with this carcass and came across a Bentley Tesonaso that was built in the Netherlands. http://vanderbyl.nl/bentley-tesonaso/ Does anyone know anything about this car? What a work of art... Mike B 59 BT7 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 13:24:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDE22584FAC for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273482580BB7 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:24:04 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=VABdGYMOXGuTVnTJsdNSFI+IgX75x9kobd5b/zuCx89diG79GL44uFj5xAGY79OQ; h=Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [50.147.124.50] (helo=hpdm1) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Xeqhg-0006mi-OJ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:27:16 -0400 From: "SKIP SAUNDERS" To: "'Oudesluys'" , References: <544016E6.50301@chello.nl> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:27:12 -0400 Thread-Index: AQI0r7LAYu069GuJQ6cdYL+PJqxb/gGHhWTlm11StkA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net He probably doesn't believe in global warming either ... lol -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oudesluys Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:05 PM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S I would still try a new sparkplug AND lead for no. 2. I had a similar problem with my JH years ago in the late seventies on my holidays in France for about a fortnight. Dismantled the whole chibang several times, no luck and finally came to the conclusion that is was the plug lead. I went to one of those small road side garages and asked for a plug lead. He asked: for what car? I told him it was for a Jensen Healey. He did not have any! I tried to explain that any thing of a suitable length was OK but he still maintained that it would not work. I then asked him if I could take a plug lead of one of the scrap 2-CV's lying about in the yard. "OK, go ahead if you must, but it will not work" . He was absolutely dumbfounded when the engine started up as sweet as a nut. I was his knowledgeable hero of the day. Kees Oudesluijs Michael Salter schreef op 16-10-2014 20:24: > I figure that if we can discuss the merits of various brands of GPS I > can ask this question. > I have been around British cars for about 50 years and worked on them > professionally for 30 so I have a pretty good understanding of how to > fix them..i.e. no obvious suggestions!! > My daily driver (summer) is a 1967 Morris Mini Cooper S. > It has recently developed a misfire on one cylinder..the problem > sometimes goes away after driving for a couple of miles but not always. > The engine runs both at idle and higher RPM on 3 cylinders... > When I check the plugs #2 plug is wet and obviously not firing. > Swap #4 & #2 plugs and the same cylinder, #2 still misfires and wets > its plug. > Compression test shows all cylinders even at about 160 p.s.i. > Install a spark tester (gap) between the plug cap and the plug of #2 > cylinder and the engine runs, still on 3 cylinders, with a very > healthy 3/4" spark showing in the tester. This to my mind eliminates > almost any ignition problem as the likely cause. > Both valves for #2 cylinder open and close a lot (649 cam). > Checked the points cam and it opens correctly for all cylinders. > Fitted a replacement distributor cap and rotor...no change. > I'm starting to run out of ideas here.. > Disassembled both carbs, and checked the fuel supply and float float > level on each. > Now I'm really running out of ideas!!!! Help...... > Michael S > BN1 #174 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2014.0.4765 / Virusdatabase: 4040/8400 - datum van uitgifte: > 10/16/14 $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tfsbj7@mindspring.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 14:10:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3362584FB3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:10:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com (mail-lb0-f173.google.com [209.85.217.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7E425844B3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:10:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 10so3457955lbg.32 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:13:20 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=y7NTO6OJDBaAK9n3U+rRIXaOeYkgsTMyBVZiYIFP9bQ=; b=OYZIm0vgKsaevVo4mk7D3IKdtnjboPwWgfwiN22AHXULlWUkyJEhEraWFxMUEcxq2W lELaGjk1LKG4dLtm+Iwpy3N0RYipl3sxf4MRlump8Je92hOO70P2L110GGjnwllfClzd P0uCHqrOpH8uDZBgep09PE4imT35Q8g3qdlfBuMXTrPo5D+79+4fIWG0kfPT4f2jrhrs UAmE4tOADYFyalY0OxU/YOa1NAzR8wxvus3CDVWOVdN8QzJbEHzdo5SBGc1HONYMv8dn JkyYS0Js0+tjYl+AykIgdJAavBX3papVG7D+oFJQejiR5tNUw1JylpdvJcvFsXhprVQL CtMw== le8mr3938054lab.67.1413490400507; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.196 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:13:20 -0700 (PDT) References: <071E03A0-F512-47DD-BF8D-4E7CDBCC816A@mac.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:13:20 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: Linwood Rose Cc: healeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] Adding a starter relay question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Lin, Not quite sure what you are trying to achieve with a starter relay. The starter solenoid is in of itself a relay for the starter motor. Installing a relay to power the solenoid directly rather than all the current (probably less than 1 amp) going through the START button seems like unnecessary complication. I've never seen a burned out Lucas START button. Am I missing something? Michael S BN1 #174 On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Linwood Rose wrote: > For those who are more knowledgable than I regarding automotive electrical > systems (that should just about include most of you!), I have a question. > The application is not a Healey but I figure someone here will know. > > If I wanted to add a starter relay to the ignition/starter wiring system > system. Should the relay go between the solenoid and the starter button, or > should it go between the ignition switch and the starter button? I assume > it > should go between the solenoid and the starter button thereby relieving > both > the button and the switch. However, I know it is always better to ask than > assume. > > Thank you! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 14:14:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6B12584F7A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:14:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mpls-smtp-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-smtp-01.inet.qwest.net [63.231.195.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF7A25844B3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:14:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HerbsHP (67-6-11-54.mpls.qwest.net [67.6.11.54]) by mpls-smtp-01.inet.qwest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA53A866AE for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:17:35 +0000 (UTC) From: "Herbert Miller" To: "healeys" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:17:35 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/pfjk8iA2xGsO6RVGUxuI1/7Pj7Q== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Healeys] 3000 cam bearings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have a source for quality 3000 cam bearings? Herb Miller 1962 BT7 1967 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 14:23:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C208258504B for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:23:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4932584536 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141016201831.IVZC8128.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:18:31 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([68.8.99.146]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id 3wJW1p00q39WC8c01wJW3A; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:18:31 -0400 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=94NrpVudfUg1zod8Q0YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Wilko2 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:18:30 -0700 References: <3uvV1p00x0NyJgq01uvWLD> To: Linwood Rose Cc: healeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] Adding a starter relay question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The starter solenoid is a relay, and the new style gear reduction starters either don't need one, or it's built in so you'd bypass the clunky old "solenoid". On Oct 16, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Linwood Rose wrote: > For those who are more knowledgable than I regarding automotive electrical > systems (that should just about include most of you!), I have a question. > The application is not a Healey but I figure someone here will know. > > If I wanted to add a starter relay to the ignition/starter wiring system > system. Should the relay go between the solenoid and the starter button, or > should it go between the ignition switch and the starter button? I assume it > should go between the solenoid and the starter button thereby relieving both > the button and the switch. However, I know it is always better to ask than > assume. > > Thank you! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins@cox.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 14:24:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C390258503B for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:24:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from visioncenterpc.com (cbl-static-80-009.machlink.com [69.49.80.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4B72584536 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:24:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 10.50.10.11 ([10.50.10.11]) by server.visioncenter.local ([10.50.10.11]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:26:56 +0000 From: "Chris Scholz" thread-topic: Carpet replacement thread-index: Ac/pf4eWL44V8Z/1S0qaSdcN448qqQ== Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:27:54 -0500 To: "AustinHealey List" Subject: [Healeys] Carpet replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I am restoring my 1959 BN4 100-6. Original interior was noted as red on the BMHT. The car is now painted old English White with dark red coves. The dash and seat covers and kick panels are in excellent shape and are all dark red. I need to replace the carpet and I want to stay with colors that are specific to Austin Healey. Is there only one color red (bright red) or did they make a dark red carpet? Should I order from Moss or heritagetrim.com? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 14:54:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38032584A52 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:54:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8DF25844B3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:50:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.1.11] (n49s039.fttx.shentel.net [204.111.49.39]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NDK006KA21ETIA0@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for healeys@autox.team.net; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:53:40 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-16_08:2014-10-16,2014-10-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410160191 From: Linwood Rose Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:53:39 -0400 To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] Adding a starter relay question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you Michael and Rick. I withdraw my question. :-) > For those who are more knowledgable than I regarding automotive electrical > systems (that should just about include most of you!), I have a question. > The application is not a Healey but I figure someone here will know. > > If I wanted to add a starter relay to the ignition/starter wiring system > system. Should the relay go between the solenoid and the starter button, or > should it go between the ignition switch and the starter button? I assume it > should go between the solenoid and the starter button thereby relieving both > the button and the switch. However, I know it is always better to ask than > assume. > > Thank you! Lin _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 14:55:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C92A2584FDA for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:55:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f47.google.com (mail-qg0-f47.google.com [209.85.192.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A8725844B3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:52:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id i50so3189285qgf.6 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:55:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0VHhnDtEqfyQb8VIAa9ZU3EBsNKx3Hmo4uYduY1+SG0=; b=sWxOwb+Z/oeUYsLwssQdxZMY5RDB9lJ48zrOypv1iUkuT+IP/BmqDSgzCXorPqMfR6 Q2Po7uEvX31ttAy11nJlu3LaDzmpVW+9iI7KBm9C8VvyvRfZbbkxu9BZfLeKs0Q9DvxE g3ZPRC3Z6mr41nJ9WRT0fnPS7iM2fg+ScRNhKp5iRdGaU6FiXb2kFvW6FoZ2gp3SIFw8 tdWarhZ0VW0W1VvjxUmNJMxZ4RajbMbO0l5T/rJIU/fB5NkZZuzjArRaOdKD/eMm6rAe SHOBicrFomMd1JyALuXZlGDwcYy5TlKQ4iQHy+Mau4ne76Z10JDHE1kFpmqYOw+kyjJo CqWQ== g11mr5784783qgf.38.1413492949002; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.96.72 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:55:48 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:55:48 +0100 From: Derek Job To: Chris Scholz Cc: AustinHealey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carpet replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net There was only one colour red. Modern repros tend to be slightly lighter and brighter than the originals. The same applies to the blue interiors. Derek On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Chris Scholz wrote: > I am restoring my 1959 BN4 100-6. Original interior was noted as red on the > BMHT. The car is now painted old English White with dark red coves. The > dash > and seat covers and kick panels are in excellent shape and are all dark > red. > > I need to replace the carpet and I want to stay with colors that are > specific > to Austin Healey. Is there only one color red (bright red) or did they > make a > dark red carpet? > > Should I order from Moss or heritagetrim.com? Thanks. > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 15:00:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077B82584FF3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:00:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f51.google.com (mail-oi0-f51.google.com [209.85.218.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A936325844B3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h136so3347414oig.38 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:03:06 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Iya/Xx8R/T7aISU0c7w0thWifwMrWpuNJ9k0N1xbJZU=; b=GijqYVRYrvRoML7s3efl5SzmcAISqZtjD2L0GKuqRNLd0/fFHhxmkbTRgjrqvWOtKh 8zYeDFsUHderXondCAhHz+75htN8pi0QTeV8Usr9kE2XGj9HSwbaeBqKAnviOJMfv+8N Gf49LzfypHuAK9i57iksn4KYUV5t+ZSZKjsVsKIFyl7e8qVvhz6iWYOyFfvneGR05fyK Tf4+J1OHD9OaJkSTL0e88nqTWJYbjeiwCRfAGY9kA2zJbOc8XYtViCV0IFXDh7XuDZyZ Y9BxoMRZHX3wkbo/dO25maoNclQ26G4NjFnQRLOkRyARMJHfMRDjyhLBkuILFhSp+61E lYQw== e3mr3173138obv.66.1413493385948; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:02:35 -0700 (PDT) References: From: I Erbs Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:02:35 -0700 To: Michael Salter Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I would 2nd Kees suggestion. Had a similar situation with re-starting my car. Changed out the lead and the issue went away. especially if they are carbon, but it has happened with copper too. Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > I figure that if we can discuss the merits of various brands of GPS I can > ask this question. > I have been around British cars for about 50 years and worked on them > professionally for 30 so I have a pretty good understanding of how to fix > them..i.e. no obvious suggestions!! > My daily driver (summer) is a 1967 Morris Mini Cooper S. > It has recently developed a misfire on one cylinder..the problem sometimes > goes away after driving for a couple of miles but not always. > The engine runs both at idle and higher RPM on 3 cylinders... > When I check the plugs #2 plug is wet and obviously not firing. > Swap #4 & #2 plugs and the same cylinder, #2 still misfires and wets its > plug. > Compression test shows all cylinders even at about 160 p.s.i. > Install a spark tester (gap) between the plug cap and the plug of #2 > cylinder and the engine runs, still on 3 cylinders, with a very healthy > 3/4" spark showing in the tester. This to my mind eliminates almost any > ignition problem as the likely cause. > Both valves for #2 cylinder open and close a lot (649 cam). > Checked the points cam and it opens correctly for all cylinders. > Fitted a replacement distributor cap and rotor...no change. > I'm starting to run out of ideas here.. > Disassembled both carbs, and checked the fuel supply and float float level > on each. > Now I'm really running out of ideas!!!! Help...... > Michael S > BN1 #174 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 15:41:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6AA258080B for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:41:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC4S13.hotmail.com (bay004-omc4s13.hotmail.com [65.54.190.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158C42580331 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:31:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY175-W1 ([65.54.190.200]) by BAY004-OMC4S13.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:34:33 -0700 From: Leonard Berkowitz To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:34:33 -0400 FILETIME=[F9D78970:01CFE988] Subject: [Healeys] Re Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I had my radiator re-cored and added an extra row to it. No longer runs hot. Have driven it at a steady 70-80 on 90+ days and never go over 200F. I had tried oil coolers, electric fans, and fans with extra blades. Nothing worked. Additionally unless you really look very carefully the radiator looks completly stock and original. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 17:43:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA4C258486D for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0EF258055A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:39:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.116]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3zhr1p0032XD5SV01ziDc0; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 23:42:13 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([98.237.116.198]) by resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3ziC1p0054GubUa01ziDk7; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 23:42:13 +0000 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:42:13 -0400 From: Charlie Baldwin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: s=q20140121; t=1413502933; bh=HIpsEL9ARDNPgi+tcMljt+beXxUGhPsgywThAhoKxco=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=v8wB73M69PrwkoPd6sAckqKNHia2USDA1Qvaqcuu6AEIPjWnuhhTIEvmiH11Nc37l e8Gm264fvDFp+aRi7SMNmJvg1OOCDAi9hVE6nRJ12ye2Vp0engFSYPkoHbhwJLQ0mi 8WnQJetBsAF9RCDSxW2In2eqIlc08XPCVDTH5qASnCjHuuERxhXgkV98qh9H7Dakgu J8n3vNr1Rh9SnrtQ2r8oQwsx/aJlRyfMdQR4saGDGblyZYW41GySnn/MHAf+5ZfMvI z3TheivzYfZq3dLINxjWh8LP68tVaS/nmB0OxUr85IWJMcSU2W5Mj48TZ1Yf7loYHQ Me0QfFLmqp9/A== Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carpet replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Chris, Dark and light are terms that may be different in the mind's eye of different people. Anyone who sells carpets for your car can send out a sample of the colors that you may be interested in. Perhaps you should also include other vendors like some out of the UK. There is also a company called Automat in NY (Long Island) who offer carpets for Austin-Healeys and many other cars. http://www.autointeriors.biz/ Charlie On 10/16/2014 4:27 PM, Chris Scholz wrote: > I am restoring my 1959 BN4 100-6. Original interior was noted as red on the > BMHT. The car is now painted old English White with dark red coves. The dash > and seat covers and kick panels are in excellent shape and are all dark red. > > I need to replace the carpet and I want to stay with colors that are specific > to Austin Healey. Is there only one color red (bright red) or did they make a > dark red carpet? > > Should I order from Moss or heritagetrim.com? Thanks. > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie@comcast.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 17:56:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F2E25846BF for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:56:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f43.google.com (mail-la0-f43.google.com [209.85.215.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1FA258055A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f43.google.com with SMTP id mc6so3839019lab.30 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:56:09 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0KTGoxx7nTRoNmu/ALjqvQerojoBysjDlh1l4PbVsjo=; b=A8UpAE0qSuHtUhL/yGsBeiw7FFcb1bEamIfK7wGqKQqatYmcsq1MhJ42LPmRDmbF9s iENb+tRPHFFD22EvkqnGG7Pf0obpRFQFtWCzQK8yZDf+2WOsaanmCW3lP6R+zoDZKuie za0dogSu7DNBBKzxwVchej9JlB8JCjmNFb05Z0t/noF8qCnp5feBn/aSJWkeJETpVOi0 tXNXnjgb4MavOdcT3GuK99PJdzZEmlrgx0BBVtGsrdP+7u118ts2ygVd90dn75fznD0I 7ypEp9rwMD8/zQFN+4hWwC54sdJClArHd6TNMhCP0dnuweBLU+jQ68jEt71MsvOXVILm DfAg== kk14mr4822200lbb.83.1413503769357; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.21.103 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:56:09 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:56:09 -0700 From: Richard Ewald To: Linwood Rose Cc: healeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] Adding a starter relay question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW lots of modern cars have starter relays between the ignition switch and the solenoid, so the idea of adding one to an old car is not that outrageous. If you do add one, it would go between the starter button and the solenoid. A quick Google seems to show that a start solenoid draws in the neighborhood of 8-10A with the pull in windings, and less with the hold in windings. I can tell you a starter relay on a modern car is designed for substantially more current that your average relay. compare the terminals on this relay http://images.oreillyauto.com/parts/img/large/idi/250658_primary.jpg The small terminal on the left is the same as your average relay, fits a standard spade terminal, look at the high current terminal on the right, it is over twice as wide, designed for much higher current. If you need to know how to wire it feel free to drop me a line. Rick On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Linwood Rose wrote: > Thank you Michael and Rick. I withdraw my question. :-) > > > For those who are more knowledgable than I regarding automotive > electrical > > systems (that should just about include most of you!), I have a question. > > The application is not a Healey but I figure someone here will know. > > > > If I wanted to add a starter relay to the ignition/starter wiring system > > system. Should the relay go between the solenoid and the starter button, > or > > should it go between the ignition switch and the starter button? I assume > it > > should go between the solenoid and the starter button thereby relieving > both > > the button and the switch. However, I know it is always better to ask > than > > assume. > > > > Thank you! > > Lin > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 18:12:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF4425844B3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:12:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com (mail-lb0-f174.google.com [209.85.217.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2190258055A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:03:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f174.google.com with SMTP id p9so3689155lbv.19 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=W2IyQwOuybyMUZ1x51UF19KosseXoSWpVcPjrLQTPm8=; b=VhuH/k1LXq1e0hhihxnf/6Ylx2Hn7lbo7865uJTOc5+V6mnZk0w1Y8LYDlVrsefp6x DM7S8l1wX7Egb1bkl50owEVZY8/VY0pi99fmfh6IRz/ecy7Ph5qPPYw2DpXvHxl70Ogx 11jT0Nh0d1ACTU7VEXgJtCtdRXjKJlshGFR9Iv4ecBkOsvaCFcn7ZumBakudqgvmjOyp 6WU0todFo6Ir8FbI21VJ1CD8mtWuiRuz6o6MFzs26m0Uvw/hyBJ4igJdE3f8xkX6u+7H RHfkO8zsXDHw36zExcFVhFQkICCkQiY2rxhHOAduO7NNjUegIKcOXcl6+1FMSY3nor7A AJoQ== ug9mr5154142lbc.14.1413504416477; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.21.103 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <1947D53641C24C339FDA896C528FFAB7@DavidNockHP> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:06:56 -0700 From: Richard Ewald To: David Nock BCS Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I'm with David, There is something different about the conditions in that cylinder. Since it only affects #2, I think you can rule out carbs, rotor, points, dwell, condenser and anything that effects all the cylinders. Intake vacuum leak, cap, spark plug lead, valve or cam lobe issue is what is left. I have seen cracked caps missfire on one cylinder but you said you tried a new cap. Since you say it goes away sometimes, this could also be a valve issue, either binding in the valve guide, or broken valve spring. Broken valve springs are sometimes not obvious, when you look at them. Let me know what you find Rick On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:40 AM, David Nock BCS wrote: > Intake manifold intemittent leak due to heat > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > 209-948-8767 > www.britishcarspecialists.com > -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:24 AM > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S > > > I figure that if we can discuss the merits of various brands of GPS I can > ask this question. > I have been around British cars for about 50 years and worked on them > professionally for 30 so I have a pretty good understanding of how to fix > them..i.e. no obvious suggestions!! > My daily driver (summer) is a 1967 Morris Mini Cooper S. > It has recently developed a misfire on one cylinder..the problem sometimes > goes away after driving for a couple of miles but not always. > The engine runs both at idle and higher RPM on 3 cylinders... > When I check the plugs #2 plug is wet and obviously not firing. > Swap #4 & #2 plugs and the same cylinder, #2 still misfires and wets its > plug. > Compression test shows all cylinders even at about 160 p.s.i. > Install a spark tester (gap) between the plug cap and the plug of #2 > cylinder and the engine runs, still on 3 cylinders, with a very healthy > 3/4" spark showing in the tester. This to my mind eliminates almost any > ignition problem as the likely cause. > Both valves for #2 cylinder open and close a lot (649 cam). > Checked the points cam and it opens correctly for all cylinders. > Fitted a replacement distributor cap and rotor...no change. > I'm starting to run out of ideas here.. > Disassembled both carbs, and checked the fuel supply and float float level > on each. > Now I'm really running out of ideas!!!! Help...... > Michael S > BN1 #174 > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/healeys/healeydoc@sbcglobal.net ______________________________ > _________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/healeys/richard.ewald@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 18:57:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA5625851CE for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta54.windstream.net (pacmmta54-web.windstream.net [162.39.147.244]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6822E2584899 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:50:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pamxwww03-z01 ([10.135.134.174]) by pacmmta54.windstream.net with pacmmta54 id 40tg1p00G3lvnmJ010tgak; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:53:40 -0400 a=Gx5I/Z4ggh5ZwyYj8OEjrg==:117 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=UT_QgiwtmQIA:10 a=LuI0nJzwFaMA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=6v2PeqXnjHGMj3qxIv4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=Y43ZA_YEbpEA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=TlnOPt13aEMA:10 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:53:40 -0400 From: Tom Felts To: Leonard Berkowitz , "healeys@autox.team.net" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Healeys] Re Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW, I have the original radiator and a 6 blade metal fan-----my car runs in the same temp range as what you show. tom 65 BJ8 ---- Leonard Berkowitz wrote: ============= I had my radiator re-cored and added an extra row to it. No longer runs hot. Have driven it at a steady 70-80 on 90+ days and never go over 200F. I had tried oil coolers, electric fans, and fans with extra blades. Nothing worked. Additionally unless you really look very carefully the radiator looks completly stock and original. Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 22:25:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CCA2585240 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 22:25:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f52.google.com (mail-wg0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D1625807F2 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 22:21:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a1so34708wgh.23 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:24:46 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XLtUS3L3wCRjPbMOZdqZC1BaXveL/ternwEk1HMKIh4=; b=Ea0G8972z0zPa2Y5Iq+lZVoWj44QCBpDyab1Qsvxh1hQFRj7gdCaFkD2bJNds7OsxO 0XGYis3/EzERNdu0vD/ZcTQaIYnr6BUM02drv2eajvJIZkvBlohRLtIvXbr0NZ2U7M9g hK5icrQgnjDkyEFDP/CyASiC7gsjLsU+UxBuMUlU8leJjVx6qpZvvX7Ju6hgl6jRULlM i7sHEqRSpne1Plu1jixq6Mbpx9TOM5bnEw8plR6QjoIl6i6WLpLJt+2AC1IEg1AQ5/c9 e9K29c9ESMc+aCNLx9tPXMgLacq3qKt7HT68KJw8a5n9vACwWFVys8J4CcX/3pRj5IrF F71A== o8mr24956744wic.62.1413519886027; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.8.79 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:24:45 -0700 (PDT) References: <1947D53641C24C339FDA896C528FFAB7@DavidNockHP> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 06:24:45 +0200 From: Austin Healey To: Richard Ewald Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Valve gap? If too tigth, it might not let the valve seat. Gergo 2014-10-17 2:06 GMT+02:00 Richard Ewald : > I'm with David, There is something different about the conditions in that > cylinder. Since it only affects #2, I think you can rule out carbs, rotor, > points, dwell, condenser and anything that effects all the cylinders. > Intake vacuum leak, cap, spark plug lead, valve or cam lobe issue is what > is left. > I have seen cracked caps missfire on one cylinder but you said you tried a > new cap. > Since you say it goes away sometimes, this could also be a valve issue, > either binding in the valve guide, or broken valve spring. Broken valve > springs are sometimes not obvious, when you look at them. > Let me know what you find > Rick > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:40 AM, David Nock BCS > wrote: > > > Intake manifold intemittent leak due to heat > > > > > > > > David Nock > > British Car Specialists > > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter > > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:24 AM > > To: healeys@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S > > > > > > I figure that if we can discuss the merits of various brands of GPS I can > > ask this question. > > I have been around British cars for about 50 years and worked on them > > professionally for 30 so I have a pretty good understanding of how to fix > > them..i.e. no obvious suggestions!! > > My daily driver (summer) is a 1967 Morris Mini Cooper S. > > It has recently developed a misfire on one cylinder..the problem > sometimes > > goes away after driving for a couple of miles but not always. > > The engine runs both at idle and higher RPM on 3 cylinders... > > When I check the plugs #2 plug is wet and obviously not firing. > > Swap #4 & #2 plugs and the same cylinder, #2 still misfires and wets its > > plug. > > Compression test shows all cylinders even at about 160 p.s.i. > > Install a spark tester (gap) between the plug cap and the plug of #2 > > cylinder and the engine runs, still on 3 cylinders, with a very healthy > > 3/4" spark showing in the tester. This to my mind eliminates almost any > > ignition problem as the likely cause. > > Both valves for #2 cylinder open and close a lot (649 cam). > > Checked the points cam and it opens correctly for all cylinders. > > Fitted a replacement distributor cap and rotor...no change. > > I'm starting to run out of ideas here.. > > Disassembled both carbs, and checked the fuel supply and float float > level > > on each. > > Now I'm really running out of ideas!!!! Help...... > > Michael S > > BN1 #174 > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > > options/healeys/healeydoc@sbcglobal.net ______________________________ > > _________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > > options/healeys/richard.ewald@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 05:56:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527E6258520D for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 05:56:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f179.google.com (mail-ig0-f179.google.com [209.85.213.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6473325845D4 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 05:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id h18so698506igc.6 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 04:54:45 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:mime-version:to:from:subject:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type; bh=PzBQXl4LbNs8EfhgDxMFSJ8j78hscR9653hOG9t1TIM=; b=lQM+M8rySQefmke5ZGHbWhDyf77LAjKFr//mh69WsIsuStFR5cmqRXLpSBE7O50vX6 INFfF2PW5Jzy4s10hNCGSZo0aLrzkLPY81iCuO6OGp0q5du72mgk2sU1Areb3XLc+/1n Oa//CPLgUVeJwghFp8vc4m6tNL0bcK/dIkD39VxL/iiAN22GqXbwo226JAJnXG598VU9 DgBGytGyG65FRCUaZnLKHjT1MJyuwzi/MboEZp63z2U04k/lKMtoXT4ZLO+b9KOIQLy8 YH9irZkJOYh+1uJNxc4ImaTGWHCxLILxMhjDYdSDUvQZBpLcsoBjyEHw6b5PDV0g/MkS a3sA== d73mr8569651ioe.12.1413546885252; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 04:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [25.120.245.199] ([24.114.78.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e2sm824152igy.1.2014.10.17.04.54.42 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Oct 2014 04:54:43 -0700 (PDT) To: Michael Salter , "healeys@autox.team.net" From: Michael Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:54:13 -0400 References: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Well I listened to peoples advice... changing the cap and leads, a horrible job on a Cooper S, made no difference. Checked the valve clearances again. Even put in a new plug and peered around inside the cylinder with my neighbours"borescope". Nothing. Checked the compressions again still all at 160. Tightened the manifold stud nuts. When the engine is idling blocking off a carb intake progressively makes the engine slow down and stop...the same result for either carb. Checked the valve springs....all good. It seems that all I have succeeded in doing is make the problem worse...now it never goes on to 4 cylinders... Maybe if I store it for the winter all will be better in the spring. Thanks to all for their suggestions.....I'm beat. Michael S BN1 #174 -----Original Message----- From: "Michael Salter" Sent: b10/b16/b2014 2:24 PM To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Odd misfire problem Cooper S I figure that if we can discuss the merits of various brands of GPS I can ask this question. I have been around British cars for about 50 years and worked on them professionally for 30 so I have a pretty good understanding of how to fix them..i.e. no obvious suggestions!! My daily driver (summer) is a 1967 Morris Mini Cooper S. It has recently developed a misfire on one cylinder..the problem sometimes goes away after driving for a couple of miles but not always. The engine runs both at idle and higher RPM on 3 cylinders... When I check the plugs #2 plug is wet and obviously not firing. Swap #4 & #2 plugs and the same cylinder, #2 still misfires and wets its plug. Compression test shows all cylinders even at about 160 p.s.i. Install a spark tester (gap) between the plug cap and the plug of #2 cylinder and the engine runs, still on 3 cylinders, with a very healthy 3/4" spark showing in the tester. This to my mind eliminates almost any ignition problem as the likely cause. Both valves for #2 cylinder open and close a lot (649 cam). Checked the points cam and it opens correctly for all cylinders. Fitted a replacement distributor cap and rotor...no change. I'm starting to run out of ideas here.. Disassembled both carbs, and checked the fuel supply and float float level on each. Now I'm really running out of ideas!!!! Help...... Michael S BN1 #174 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 05:59:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809A1258522A for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 05:59:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDF525851A0 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 05:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.100]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 4C2j1p0062AWL2D01C2jmo; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:02:43 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([98.207.131.183]) by resomta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 4C2i1p00G3xa1La01C2jS5; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:02:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 05:02:41 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "healeys@autox.team.net" References: <54410383.0252320a.77b3.2785@mx.google.com> s=q20140121; t=1413547363; bh=izTR0VcqoSCUkCvmXejDVgqC/s631rdbOuE98hlF8TY=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=ZvONvTrIachNXwTSkjQZNh9VDkAjBWwMQ0t1HE34MJyNSifEvYMugGgPAdRhH5s82 DNsdKTByhbJUpc0RC1gjmJhPK69mEut3QXgsEHC8D5UvUpQaLEQIIhDFSbAwkAZk5p vILkjX5aFaisi9IZ27ObQ4dzmpaBPuv7+X+O5mF8abHD6uM826SvdHk+R9b8lSBJrU +L3SzaChQWh1Tp6RBRCXZsEuzkS6VFUPcnErB2n1tMruN5vZVp3LE3tl+NQWNaaJLJ JLwLQgpPPO2sikv81jmq1miz5k0RCGkETN8e/rgB1Xl3v0SAEnTSxbY4yQElFeNl8M fl8zu/EMGgGrQ== Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Michael, Do you have a Colortune glass spark plug? I'm reaching here, but if you could view the spark event you could at least determine whether it's electrical or not. Bob On 10/17/2014 4:54 AM, Michael wrote: > Well I listened to peoples advice... changing the cap and leads, a horrible > job on a Cooper S, made no difference. > Checked the valve clearances again. > Even put in a new plug and peered around inside the cylinder with my > neighbours"borescope". Nothing. > Checked the compressions again still all at 160. > Tightened the manifold stud nuts. > When the engine is idling blocking off a carb intake progressively makes the > engine slow down and stop...the same result for either carb. > Checked the valve springs....all good. > It seems that all I have succeeded in doing is make the problem worse...now it > never goes on to 4 cylinders... > Maybe if I store it for the winter all will be better in the spring. > Thanks to all for their suggestions.....I'm beat. > Michael S > BN1 #174 > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 07:42:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9292585325 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:42:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BF925809F6 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:35:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aad02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aad02.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.228]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5B31F700000AC for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-maa04d.mail.aol.com (core-maa04.mail.aol.com [172.27.38.4]) by mtaomg-aad02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0FA7038000085 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:38:31 -0400 (EDT) To: healeys@autox.team.net From: MIKE LEWIS Received: from 69.68.92.130 by webmail-vm023.sysops.aol.com (149.174.158.46) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:38:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:38:30 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413553111; bh=9KPaiz7riqfUstOTCGJ9uy0SvAHoH20UVv7EztahwDc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zK2jShtIrqwbD7B+UzvbCRCHoeUZrAuEJgOl9DxoULv9R1XGRtGzh5LJf9yeY+RZi LL/f9RcQT/KF5rcYf6GV6WcEjmjNGipj0AVRRjQ89E2vw5K3EIsjWsdgZAlclMFmmn 9iXguCp1kdGNqw3osJfdAMUxbhNreBwC1/akaTlw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7fe454411bd73402 Subject: [Healeys] BN6 carpet colors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Believe the BN6 red is not a "bright red" but a bit darker like my 56 100M. Also, think the Moss carpet red is pretty correct versus their leather red being way too burgundy. Would suggest checking with AH Spares and John Skinner in UK for carpet. Skinner sells the Karvel style as well as wool and nylon. Think AH Spares sells wool and nylon ( modern). Both are great vendors. Karvel would be correct but a bear to work with as the backing is so stiff -tough to get that tranny tunnel cover looking good. Regards Mike Lewis _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 07:43:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3BE258537D for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0944925809F6 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:39:13 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=ME95S2nrea0jHYnJyiT7ZgcLYrAuj50KcdcIpLKR8Khf8dhVzLvUaoddUv0PpjcU; h=Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [50.147.124.50] (helo=hpdm1) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Xf7nW-0007mS-W5; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:42:27 -0400 From: "SKIP SAUNDERS" To: "'Michael'" , "'Michael Salter'" , References: <54410383.0252320a.77b3.2785@mx.google.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:42:21 -0400 Thread-Index: AQI0r7LAYu069GuJQ6cdYL+PJqxb/gIOblgPm1pK0oA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Your original post said: #2 plug was wet. Given all the fuel/compression related checks, it would appear that only electrics remain. Something is preventing the plug from getting spark ... where there is spark, there is fire (given fuel ... i.e. plug wet, and given compression ... i.e. valves etc. ok). All these mechanical things can't have intermittent properties... only electrics are prone to intermittents: Hence it must be electrical. Must be a computer somewhere that does an "eco thing" and shuts down spark on #2 for some reason? Or, rethink the wiring integrity.... lastly, since it appears to always be #2 cylinder, the issue has to be somewhere between the distributor and the plug. Perhaps there is a mysterious cam wobble that makes the #2 wire from the cap have an unreliable connection? -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:54 AM To: Michael Salter; healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Well I listened to peoples advice... changing the cap and leads, a horrible job on a Cooper S, made no difference. Checked the valve clearances again. Even put in a new plug and peered around inside the cylinder with my neighbours"borescope". Nothing. Checked the compressions again still all at 160. Tightened the manifold stud nuts. When the engine is idling blocking off a carb intake progressively makes the engine slow down and stop...the same result for either carb. Checked the valve springs....all good. It seems that all I have succeeded in doing is make the problem worse...now it never goes on to 4 cylinders... Maybe if I store it for the winter all will be better in the spring. Thanks to all for their suggestions.....I'm beat. Michael S BN1 #174 -----Original Message----- From: "Michael Salter" Sent: b 10/b 16/b 2014 2:24 PM To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Odd misfire problem Cooper S I figure that if we can discuss the merits of various brands of GPS I can ask this question. I have been around British cars for about 50 years and worked on them professionally for 30 so I have a pretty good understanding of how to fix them..i.e. no obvious suggestions!! My daily driver (summer) is a 1967 Morris Mini Cooper S. It has recently developed a misfire on one cylinder..the problem sometimes goes away after driving for a couple of miles but not always. The engine runs both at idle and higher RPM on 3 cylinders... When I check the plugs #2 plug is wet and obviously not firing. Swap #4 & #2 plugs and the same cylinder, #2 still misfires and wets its plug. Compression test shows all cylinders even at about 160 p.s.i. Install a spark tester (gap) between the plug cap and the plug of #2 cylinder and the engine runs, still on 3 cylinders, with a very healthy 3/4" spark showing in the tester. This to my mind eliminates almost any ignition problem as the likely cause. Both valves for #2 cylinder open and close a lot (649 cam). Checked the points cam and it opens correctly for all cylinders. Fitted a replacement distributor cap and rotor...no change. I'm starting to run out of ideas here.. Disassembled both carbs, and checked the fuel supply and float float level on each. Now I'm really running out of ideas!!!! Help...... Michael S BN1 #174 $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tfsbj7@mindspring.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 08:03:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBE1258538C for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:03:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa12-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa12-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232A9258447F for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:03:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([67.0.180.208]) by p3plsmtpa12-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 4E6V1p0074WAT4b01E6Ve7; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:06:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:06:28 -0600 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Michael Salter , "healeys@autox.team.net" References: <544121B0.3080001@porterscustom.com> Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: ] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I think Skip may be on to something here.. measure the wear on the distributor cam lobes for sameness of each or some reason for the points plate to shift under different centrifugal or vacuum conditions.. gotta be a Lucas issue;-)You've tried everything else.. hook up your timing light and drive around with it and watch the firing... dave -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 12:59:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEF525844A5 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:59:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4060258053B for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:56:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id hs14so1221746lab.17 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:59:30 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KZI6ZkLsM1hi1sEMUiFH+Ne8gUZYzsNh1yjoC9L/f/Y=; b=ePcF1Ea9LEgUbAabYya6aQRYG/5r3m6F4CN4wVK3zGI8Nb1r+ft9IEJKl6AD3v4LyM YQVQG927PrQsJMlbvhkvS5C21Iqb1woeRHa8k88elxBe0Eeh0+WbQLkh5SAiTv+yQV02 mljSHlq6azTz5IYW0fbrBgY4FJ5Fk3JOqT1wmKywmh2jRct/vgQFs7NbQYyf9rVgnCMH vzRwc5hz+afXIlPlwoUTQitPym3FASdb0D2bfT99/bGmV97Kk8qxp9rYLotAwofpIkjA VgeZ+ZQ7Fn66f3lS99JJl9+7V+A1tlVlOFLP5XnRJCz+xC6iFXjfqQMtXSiaBZfw6KuB gZLg== dc5mr10784324lbb.11.1413572369811; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.21.103 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:59:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <544121B0.3080001@porterscustom.com> <54412264.5040901@porterscustom.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:59:29 -0700 From: Richard Ewald To: David Porter Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: ] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The spark in that video is awfully healthy. I'm having a hard time envisioning that with a spark that healthy that the plug is NOT firing at all and is wet. I would spray around the intake with carb spray to eliminate an intake leak and then I think I'd pull the valve cover and use a dial indicator to measure cam lift on both intake and exhaust. Tis truly a baffling issue. If all else fails, you might try beating on the distributor with a rubber chicken, dancing around the car counter clockwise chanting "Oh dark lord Lucas protect you lowly minion as I toil away on this car. Hey at this point it can't hurt. Rick On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 7:06 AM, David Porter wrote: > I think Skip may be on to something here.. measure the wear on the > distributor cam lobes for sameness of each or some reason for the points > plate to shift under different centrifugal or vacuum conditions.. gotta > be a Lucas issue;-)You've tried everything else.. hook up your timing > light and drive around with it and watch the firing... > dave > > > -- > Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 > 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/healeys/richard.ewald@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 14:18:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE472580955 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73D7258053B for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:18:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.166] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 20:21:21 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.160] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 20:21:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 20:21:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 44327 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2014 20:21:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413577281; bh=bCJAfOkZDCNE8XKHDdNiGekwAbGAuNovzypOzfdrWNw=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XIAm5pg3fmR91ucVTXom81Oi1DULjFUMt5pwz+uYSmWQy4zbfqOqXcfkw98cks0frm8R9VrBfh2LAqueuvRyyv65HpbwbsZKvGfWKDYfXf0ws/xWAw2oAnk3/Yy8k8Pagcpgxs7q4OE1bXYm5fUQa5q41r6GGcPAJ+SvqnjMEwA= bKdk.zsU_AyIYpbLAWg0Kb2AvYJIAHfLVCS6.Q2fJf_n5LlDI3aJIwSgWpd2 y9lhvwY0azMwGKkapkAMT_EP00CdgL3XiF_B895nC85tfFc7yz6j.aczzlU7 viQ2502vT8Ita7zqZwG3ch1aLpU2zf_LGRHGfL_8cpJyt5NuFXBFs1FcP1KX eqtwJotJXrD.nUOF8dGtxJTAXsIqedEHDXl86WDX73_n.pXdbah4MyvGwb5Q XA0t5ajOA6E29Wzlj_CeVI_dcAdsy9SbcmwQDYyvwE_WQMVDfGW3SRIDhs0J lTKp8ZUK4jBIyNtNERw1FlTSntFOnwjuWttX29xGzeQGAn8ZOTwXy.8dN_9I RtKLvb5V35QmLgbDbOZK53SPASLJcPWWY9Vh.OrBkFWPgdM9MCHaMErdi77m VD2CTEstTNafbVk5whqv43aoL1lLUdoti1l49BzHC_P_RNuJoDlgEK8DYAnu rDLiCebvOrrLHUFG_me5nvFaUAzJ6rB610_7B9KcsJUZLY4099mLoWHgQkqU jGIYGN2NvjNYK_VD2.c1f2O2pCC4Ja2AEHEciG2mm8Y4GjlRyMBXmZyGfqtt QQ_72AC3BVQNk18kl7mAsiRP1MlU4eRi8 Received: from [99.101.227.193] by web185005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:21:21 PDT UHV0IGEgUGVydHJvbml4IG1vZHVsZSBpbiBpdCBhbmQgYmUgZG9uZSB3aXRoIGl0LiAgVGhlIHNoYWZ0IGNhbiB3b2JibGUgYWxsIGl0IHdhbnRzIHdpdGggdGhlIFBlcnRyb25peCBhbmQgaXQgd2lsbCBrZWVwIHRoZSB0aW1pbmcgc3BvdCBvbi4KTWlrZSBNYWNMZWFuCjU2IEJOMgo2MCBBTjUKCgoKT24gRnJpZGF5LCBPY3RvYmVyIDE3LCAyMDE0IDEyOjAzIFBNLCBSaWNoYXJkIEV3YWxkIDxyaWNoYXJkLmV3YWxkQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6CiAKCj4KPgo.VGhlIHNwYXJrIGluIHRoYXQgdmlkZW8gaXMBMAEBAQE- References: <544121B0.3080001@porterscustom.com> <54412264.5040901@porterscustom.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:21:21 -0700 From: Michael MacLean To: Richard Ewald , David Porter Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: ] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Put a Pertronix module in it and be done with it. The shaft can wobble all it wants with the Pertronix and it will keep the timing spot on. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 On Friday, October 17, 2014 12:03 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > > >The spark in that video is awfully healthy. I'm having a hard time >envisioning that with a spark that healthy that the plug is NOT firing at >all and is wet. >I would spray around the intake with carb spray to eliminate an intake leak >and then I think I'd pull the valve cover and use a dial indicator to >measure cam lift on both intake and exhaust. >Tis truly a baffling issue. >If all else fails, you might try beating on the distributor with a rubber >chicken, dancing around the car counter clockwise chanting "Oh dark lord >Lucas protect you lowly minion as I toil away on this car. >Hey at this point it can't hurt. >Rick > >On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 7:06 AM, David Porter >wrote: > >> I think Skip may be on to something here.. measure the wear on the >> distributor cam lobes for sameness of each or some reason for the points >> plate to shift under different centrifugal or vacuum conditions.. gotta >> be a Lucas issue;-)You've tried everything else.. hook up your timing >> light and drive around with it and watch the firing... >> dave >> >> >> -- >> Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 >> 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >> options/healeys/richard.ewald@gmail.com > >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Healeys@autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike@att.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 15:00:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC8A2580682 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:00:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f47.google.com (mail-pa0-f47.google.com [209.85.220.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34D9258053B for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:50:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id rd3so1490003pab.6 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:53:17 -0700 (PDT) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Ia9NTfLYaOUnans1gizrnDe8UpIr0/HuDl/U4sacdXw=; b=gvubg+4qrPCBOW4SyBYOi2f+IHYZLw9+jNxA+Jh/23YJp6L5kY4CqhqhsJ9ZNPELNO aDrnQGEhHAQ9TSwqUjxzqeyrG8n+XJtZiboQhveini27U3U9uYjgY0mdT+03sS3+sDE5 6b1oIfRWM8qTo1c4JyLfJpV8Ml+W1tmYB/gHOWlulVx1DdkF9oXP3kjul8+qofAmgbRG MwwoPFFhjWRhAWNu2LEJgpUj24/SoGYT5rqr0C/CC9H/qcNh6G2lEGYoYU0W1mu3EgK+ Y0n2o+DQ7fgblqXCb43wq12HKphiy4jXntKSVnhhveRcH+Ajls5VYaDYhpKuq5QS1bN1 LKog== bz1mr5158577pbb.153.1413579197452; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.155.47.98] ([166.170.49.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ef3sm2377942pac.12.2014.10.17.13.53.14 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:53:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Ewald Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:53:13 -0700 References: <544121B0.3080001@porterscustom.com> <54412264.5040901@porterscustom.com> <1413577281.96637.YahooMailNeo@web185005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: Michael MacLean Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: ] Odd misfire problem Cooper S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Don't forget if the problem is not ignition primary related a Pertonix Won't fix it. Rick Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2014, at 13:21, Michael MacLean wrote: > > Put a Pertronix module in it and be done with it. The shaft can wobble all it wants with the Pertronix and it will keep the timing spot on. > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > > > On Friday, October 17, 2014 12:03 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > > > The spark in that video is awfully healthy. I'm having a hard time > envisioning that with a spark that healthy that the plug is NOT firing at > all and is wet. > I would spray around the intake with carb spray to eliminate an intake leak > and then I think I'd pull the valve cover and use a dial indicator to > measure cam lift on both intake and exhaust. > Tis truly a baffling issue. > If all else fails, you might try beating on the distributor with a rubber > chicken, dancing around the car counter clockwise chanting "Oh dark lord > Lucas protect you lowly minion as I toil away on this car. > Hey at this point it can't hurt. > Rick > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 7:06 AM, David Porter > wrote: > > > I think Skip may be on to something here.. measure the wear on the > > distributor cam lobes for sameness of each or some reason for the points > > plate to shift under different centrifugal or vacuum conditions.. gotta > > be a Lucas issue;-)You've tried everything else.. hook up your timing > > light and drive around with it and watch the firing... > > dave > > > > > > -- > > Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 > > 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > > options/healeys/richard.ewald@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike@att.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 15:30:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFF325806A5 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:30:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com (mail-oi0-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E892580682 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:24:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id u20so1253919oif.0 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:27:47 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=AHLlna/BvJQcfG3yFWSPrYRbdTlfkzdip2lPxawXnZc=; b=JKIsYLowBFWWJSymYdU5PuUL0o8W5mH97JfncApn+hvHMzdSbEoYToJ7X7cgazm1yE tG4qYuQY1DUrukAcVGF/dbmdDsTdaimWQny1A1oz0PKQ00ja4nPM0AC0Xc1IkBclAYUN nThJgj9v95mijh4eWu8Xp553/dmhuwHLbuFiTtwBZ8x4+5XLrXEFNVNJSDEj+bFpWlkr 5INykJcebVhb/tF981kKx6sgwy9OrTD5BlAEvrhbBvXny2bIKcIfph3NQXtA73znZXap FC+HykFygr6boMq/vvaueHBPq0IoUeMcuuAjbayf3xixTmUaGi2HcgdgHpWcO1I4ZvBJ pEkg== py9mr9073559obc.28.1413581267128; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:27:16 -0700 (PDT) From: I Erbs Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:27:16 -0700 To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] bottom drive dog for BT7 distributor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I have a pertronix distributor that I want to use, but need the bottom drive dog. I do not want to take the one off my Lucas unit. If anyone has an extra or one for sale, please contact me off list. #43 on Moss Motors http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=28925#top I do not want to drill it out as per their directions Thanks Ira Erbs IT Teacher and Consultant Portland, OR Your worst day at work is better than your best day in Prison Darrin King _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 23:48:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E515C2585518 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:48:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AEA2584647 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:48:07 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=W5Iz+YLE78HYj7S2LZEN1Vc4R/iZeWsRtBimADroXHgqx5uRBl2mtfqamGmf9+Tz; h=Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [73.189.12.222] (helo=LeonardPCPC) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1XfMvB-0008Mf-27 for healeys@autox.team.net; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 01:51:21 -0400 From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" To: "AH Mail List" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:51:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Stolen Car, Not a Joke Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Geary To: Joan Geary Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:57 PM Subject: Fwd: Stolen Car, Not a Joke This is a very unfortunate situation. If any of you hear anything to do with this stolen car, please email Ed or Dick at the addresses below. Joan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: dick enersen Date: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:09 AM Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Stolen Car, Not a Joke To: "Ben Brown, MD" , Joe Keon FYI... Mary lou: Could you please email blast this, I know this is not lunch bunch related, but this guy has had this car for a long time and is a true passionate car guy. If we could get this out to as many people as possible it would be doing the car community a great service. Gary Kuntz glkuntz@aol.com Please help find this car, this is not a joke. First of all and most important...a great guy...a great car guy...has had a love of his life stolen along with his truck and trailer from in front of his house. Our friend Ed Adams had his wonder Silver custom beauty stolen. IF YOU SEEOR IF YOU HEAR OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS CAR PLEASE EMAIL ED AT EDONADAMS@AOL.COM OR EMAIL ME. No questions askedhe just wants his car back. Also if you have a distribution list of your own please forward this email. This is just not okay and we all lose if this beauty isnt returned to Ed. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Mail Attachment.jpeg] _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 06:18:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BAF2585559 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 06:18:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m5.mx.aol.com (omr-m5.mx.aol.com [64.12.232.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C91258076B for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 06:08:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aak02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aak02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.226]) by omr-m5.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F046F38000053; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:12:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from familyallinone (c-24-23-100-72.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [24.23.100.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aak02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 73BA938000093; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:12:02 -0400 (EDT) From: To: =?utf-8?Q?AustinHealey_List?= , =?utf-8?Q?Len_and/or_Marge_Hartnett?= Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:08:23 +0000 References: <0E0734D49E104320B450DA481253762E@LeonardPCPC> x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413634322; bh=R9At3LltFzIVwUvGQDSDRFO2zzZJhZY2qjBf7uIFMqQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A0UQvY8U8hBbBuWx1F1JI8YS6jYGlP8Hs4AAM3wHX2klzBeesfdvXn9XfFgsqdmKL Ekvhdo8q2Gdj+pm4cm73GFLSrV68KFBZhcBhNWmEsTB3uGt3M8sBoTTByn45f4dbQh MEd0AbISs17GsDyDYH68zfG1tFq6ku205fjSW4fw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b02e2544259122576 Subject: Re: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Fw=3A_Stolen_Car=2C_Not_a_Joke?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Appears that a link to knowing any information on location, vehicle information, etc was scrubbed from this email thread. Canbt help without the basic info. Sent from Windows Mail From: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Sent: bSaturdayb, bOctoberb b18b, b2014 b1b:b51b bAM To: AustinHealey List ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Geary To: Joan Geary Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:57 PM Subject: Fwd: Stolen Car, Not a Joke This is a very unfortunate situation. If any of you hear anything to do with this stolen car, please email Ed or Dick at the addresses below. Joan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: dick enersen Date: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:09 AM Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Stolen Car, Not a Joke To: "Ben Brown, MD" , Joe Keon joekeon@comcast.net FYI... Mary lou: Could you please email blast this, I know this is not lunch bunch related, but this guy has had this car for a long time and is a true passionate car guy. If we could get this out to as many people as possible it would be doing the car community a great service. Gary Kuntz glkuntz@aol.com Please help find this car, this is not a joke. First of all and most important...a great guy...a great car guy...has had a love of his life stolen along with his truck and trailer from in front of his house. Our friend Ed Adams had his wonder Silver custom beauty stolen. IF YOU SEEOR IF YOU HEAR OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS CAR PLEASE EMAIL ED AT EDONADAMS@AOL.COM OR EMAIL ME. No questions askedhe just wants his car back. Also if you have a distribution list of your own please forward this email. This is just not okay and we all lose if this beauty isnt returned to Ed. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Mail Attachment.jpeg] _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 06:19:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4455D25855AA for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 06:19:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4445C258552F for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 06:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id rd18so2256635iec.36 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 05:21:52 -0700 (PDT) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=mF5AFCti0zu+w0nNP8zTaXJatwUZCUz1RljaVDfJwmU=; b=yWIKPyWiO3DulbSFDN0NH9fNEf5uV4P7P5c23Sd6geJgcWhvaOjcgogR7okmf2mDHM jKJR6vHj7WFx8rKu+4alVIIYkQ+zbZXWsI95GuglCT3ETBJ0VGKXnzJ8FLyinJm43IPq EICsL9p6FQb92VOdfixBMNdK7q6ivv0J2yPHNDFHVM6XId0Z88n6ZIACz92zx7deaVOY cxzwa3uSxkBK9/YqJguLVLBYGbo0hFZC3vING1MleNPz0YknkC0+Fl1IMyN/qhIZm5li 6wUEXEHeiIxi/2+OM7Iq01Y78KMqZjuHvS6hCm0khH79IDkuEbnhQndUwYv7ztSCO8kb mOyA== ci6mr15734449icb.33.1413634912779; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 05:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.3.95] (ip-206-123-194-114.static.fasttrackcomm.net. [206.123.194.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ki5sm2092891igb.2.2014.10.18.05.21.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 18 Oct 2014 05:21:52 -0700 (PDT) From: M James Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 06:21:54 -0600 References: <0E0734D49E104320B450DA481253762E@LeonardPCPC> To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Cc: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: Stolen Car, Not a Joke Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Bring a Trailer has pictures and a link to a relevant Craigslist. Marv J Sent from my iPad > On Oct 17, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Len and/or Marge Hartnett wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joan Geary > To: Joan Geary > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:57 PM > Subject: Fwd: Stolen Car, Not a Joke > > > This is a very unfortunate situation. If any of you hear anything to do with > this stolen car, please email Ed or Dick at the addresses below. > > > Joan > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: dick enersen > Date: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:09 AM > Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Stolen Car, Not a Joke > To: "Ben Brown, MD" , Joe Keon > > > > FYI... > > > Mary lou: > > > Could you please email blast this, I know this is not lunch bunch related, > but this guy has had this car for a long time and is a true passionate car > guy. If we could get this out to as many people as possible it would be doing > the car community a great service. > > > Gary Kuntz > glkuntz@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > Please help find this car, this is not a joke. > > > First of all and most important...a great guy...a great car guy...has had a > love of his life stolen along with his truck and trailer from in front of his > house. Our friend Ed Adams had his wonder Silver custom beauty stolen. > > > > IF YOU SEEOR IF YOU HEAR OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS CAR PLEASE EMAIL ED AT > EDONADAMS@AOL.COM OR EMAIL ME. No questions askedhe just wants his car back. > Also if you have a distribution list of your own please forward this email. > This is just not okay and we all lose if this beauty isnt returned to Ed. > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Mail Attachment.jpeg] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britcrs@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 06:33:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BDD25855C2 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 06:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from outbound.myeasyfilter.com (outbound.myeasyfilter.com [216.55.99.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09894258554E for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 06:24:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (outbound.myeasyfilter.com [216.55.99.208]) by outbound.myeasyfilter.com (OutboundFilter) with ESMTP id 4C5A92343DC6 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:27:26 -0400 (EDT) outbound.myeasyfilter.com Received: from outbound.myeasyfilter.com ([216.55.99.208]) by localhost (outbound.myeasyfilter.com [216.55.99.208]) (outbound, port 10024) with ESMTP id e53QFlzu5rrP for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usol.com (hades.usol.com [204.232.84.4]) by outbound.myeasyfilter.com (OutboundFilter) with ESMTP id E92742343DC2 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop3.usol.com ([204.232.84.6] helo=webmail.usol.com) by usol.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XfT6U-0004O5-Kb for healeys@autox.team.net; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:27:26 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:27:26 -0400 From: ggilliam@usol.com To: Healeys User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 Subject: [Healeys] BAT Link to missing Triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Here is the link to the info page: http://bringatrailer.com/2014/10/17/help-a-bat-friend-ed-a-s-aluminum-triumph-special/ Best of luck recovering it... Gordy Longbridge BN4 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 11:04:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EA725846EC for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:04:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A462584619 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:54:39 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=FZjos68tibxVVIZ2UhLI1Z2MT365piVO08AyzQ05S+XRNq8UisvT8mDQuDu5ioWA; h=Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [73.189.12.222] (helo=LeonardPCPC) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1XfXKD-00034m-6M for healeys@autox.team.net; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:57:53 -0400 From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" To: "AH Mail List" References: <0E0734D49E104320B450DA481253762E@LeonardPCPC> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:57:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: Stolen Car, Not a Joke Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net In response to the comments received since forwarding the email, let me just say that I forwarded what was provided. There was no attachment. The car was relatively local to the SF bay area as I had seen it at a British Car Show in Brisbane, CA. More information is provided on the Bring a Trailer website such as "...Triumph-based aluminum Special Roadster stolen from in front of his house in Berkeley.. ." (thank you Marv). (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 14:35:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9133258470A for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:35:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f50.google.com (mail-qa0-f50.google.com [209.85.216.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656052580969 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:24:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id w8so1846023qac.23 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:27:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LvV0qR3T2Jsci/HijVvT1uxWnm7nITq33BZYvToToWM=; b=0vsohc4Cqn72LliOJjxuaEAtFMKlqSwlxYWerx5HzieXSuI6YOk5HbmIJZLuAJoOjy ANGrfvzEATHOW6vmjTQSTy8dGa7/NmgOBezkctoVOCUV6chMX7RRZygp0I6YUUXSFIsx JwYOmg6EpZVjbnpQOkThnDD59ilAtq7o4s54Z+aWMrJ8Hd9oJdA6zIm/cx37isT/VpOd mlAVU38h2Rx1VYJMS6TFLpHXyv87yI6Gc51GC/zciLGkGHM3kdiKKrx9h61Yt7L7YdGK q0L3/N8aL2bCIS1lznK5q992mdGiL08rmLvogyvYbCbaE8Cho8ZqYuxEtswPYjSmNNj6 R+cQ== 7mr23632399qaj.64.1413664076342; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.3.197 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:27:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <422511233.9374990.1413299715809.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <543D4E6F.20708@chello.nl> <1537648624.9474613.1413305223064.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:27:56 -1000 From: Kimo Briske To: Michael Salter , Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Running Temps--Was: Re: Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I fabricated a sheet metal pan [ for my BT7 ] to fill the space between the front shroud and frame below the radiator. the air that comes in the grill goes thru the radiator instead of under the car. the pan is 16 3/4" wide, 13 1/2" front/back. A 1 1/2" lip on the back fastens it to the frame rail. A 2 1/4" hole is located for the radiator drain. Stock radiator and a 6 blade alum. fan from Norm Knock. No cooling problems. Aloha, Jim On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > One factor which I have found makes a surprisingly large difference is the > correct installation of the radiator baffles. I have resolved persistent > overheating problems in 6 cylinder cars by just ensuring that the hot air > from the engine compartment cannot make its way around to the front of the > radiator.. > It's worth a try and a lot less expensive than an aluminium radiator. > > Michael S > BN1 #174 > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Bob Spidell > wrote: > > > Agreed. I am using a (modern) sleeved-type thermostat, have a calibrated > > gauge and have tried several thermostats (I tested a couple on the stove > > and they functioned as expected). Still, my BJ8 engine will run below the > > thermostat set point on a cool day with light load--I would expect the > > coolant temp even under those conditions to rise to nominal, but it > > doesn't. Our BN2 behaves the same way. > > > > The only comparison I can think of is air-cooled aircraft engines, which > > usually have an oil cooler. There is a valve called a > > Vernatherm--essentially a bi-metal strip--that closes off oil flow to the > > oil cooler radiator to allow the engine to warm to operating temperature > > before the cooler is brought 'online.' But, an air-cooled engine can > > dissipate a lot more heat than an Austin lump. > > > > Is it possible the huge chunk of iron in front could be 'self-cooling' to > > a point then, beyond that point, even with wide-open thermostat, cannot > > maintain a set temperature? My guess is that at speed there is sufficient > > airflow to cool the engine--even below the thermostat set point--but once > > stuck in traffic or with a load there isn't enough excess airflow and the > > cooling system's capability is exceeded (as Kees mentioned). > > > > Bob > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > In general the temperature should be more or less constant under any > > condition, just slightly above the opening temperature of the > > thermostat. If the temperature shows to be lower than the thermostat > > opening temperature the thermostat is at fault or is the wrong type (it > > should be of the sleeved type), assuming the heater is turned off. If > > very cold, with the heater plus heater fan on maximum, the temperature > > could drop below the opening temperature of the thermostat. > > If the temperature increases significantly the cooling capacity is > > insufficient because of blockages/dirt, faulty water pump or the wrong > > radiator capacity. > > Older cars can have insufficient cooling capacity at low speeds/engine > > revs, hence the advise to fit a thermostatically controlled electric fan > > when the car is used in modern traffic. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/kimobriske@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 02:09:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080412580BA4 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 02:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from visioncenterpc.com (cbl-static-80-009.machlink.com [69.49.80.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5FF258044F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 02:09:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 10.50.10.11 ([10.50.10.11]) by server.visioncenter.local ([10.50.10.11]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:12:23 +0000 From: "Chris Scholz" Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 03:12:39 -0500 thread-topic: Remove bolts lower A arm thread-index: Ac/rdGl6ocKi7R1hTXa+teKA6dg9GA== To: "AustinHealey List" Subject: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I am restoring a '59 100-6 and I am having trouble getting the 2 big bolts out that connect the lower A arms to the frame. Any ideas? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 02:50:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4A825853AE for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 02:50:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2EC258069D for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 02:49:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 08:52:43 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.161] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 08:52:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 08:52:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 69796 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2014 08:46:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413708362; bh=SRJ1bT9d3ReNwHIkn735xFmS6TCer0YUXvxGnlrAOQc=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AEWnPpeFndtK5E/PZK8HA08E7kp/yI3nkUQ8U0s/zpKKmAzotG4aJ1uTb3etpcRZsSIurbfYfNz5xuUSix2zEGTVx/5rKRT4mGMNU8T/RaoMARyF3q/FClxrN6SBOOS8Kcc8KX9YSZLxFBcJTt0u6OtsZX/0XvyBjGU/Sss7YhI= j63PlKajb4opPs1gfgL.bGh3AoD4FCam3Fdqexyt0I.Yo47.1sbvaeqSeNNx x_EDalSogrwV_xlltxL.TR8Tr6.uvubewrdoHqBH0zgrsbOYabz60kO3.ZYg z_wYWjNpb.zBdLTpKeGDecJ8XoTvcLSQfq_7SOVoYSdKkuxbWYeLS6YCgtKR sPYv5PmKI9XfMrpuvYuCyqUi8c2ztm_3GmoFsufc.qLDn62dizpuisQdCQvr iaTHNbCYx2y9gN7QbTXffndNvIFdJmuecII_gNDYhxqe083ai_mKXhbePzXa DBbk91jWI_TfsGfPVztA3pxeuAOL8eIUOtPF_9R0rI7JJsnAghQ2dGCqmklw 0XQdpdJw01mJGEiiCx8l8HhMSXJzRlJKHM_7ZyNoMnIy76HMVlUTa0vjdBwf R4nqRdzIOX2Hnv_Y1_8ht4yINn6o6yu5qf1D3jcFxAK5Q.oHuwWGTiDN84rN bu5cUznI4_7pe3f._xeMJSFQcOnG3xuO.UnTiv8Q9yVAwdrCnpddL42wNk_K lP8ahQ.SErZj3KiepDiA4EzmZMN1_2PuK8RYLs1g- Received: from [99.101.227.193] by web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 01:46:02 PDT UEIgQmxhc3Rlci4gIFNvYWsgaXQgb3Zlcm5pZ2h0LiAgSW5jcmVkaWJsZSBzdHVmZi4gIElmIHRoYXQgZmFpbHMgdXNlIGEgdG9yY2ggdG8gaGVhdCBpdCB1cC4gIE5vdyB0aGF0IHdvcmtzIGV2ZXJ5IHRpbWUuCk1pa2UgTWFjTGVhbgo1NiBCTjIKNjAgQU41CgoKCk9uIFN1bmRheSwgT2N0b2JlciAxOSwgMjAxNCAxOjEzIEFNLCBDaHJpcyBTY2hvbHogPGRyc2Nob2x6QHZpc2lvbmNlbnRlcnBjLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6CiAKCj4KPgo.SSBhbSByZXN0b3JpbmcgYSAnNTkgMTAwLTYgYW5kIEkgYW0gaGF2aW5nIHQBMAEBAQE- References: <3C36C85E-17B8-44D7-80B5-27FB6F7EEB17@visioncenterpc.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 01:46:02 -0700 From: Michael MacLean To: Chris Scholz , AustinHealey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net PB Blaster. Soak it overnight. Incredible stuff. If that fails use a torch to heat it up. Now that works every time. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 On Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:13 AM, Chris Scholz wrote: > > >I am restoring a '59 100-6 and I am having trouble getting the 2 big bolts out >that connect the lower A arms to the frame. Any ideas? Thanks. > >Sent from my iPhone >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Healeys@autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike@att.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 07:21:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734A025854E8 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:21:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86B4258093A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:17:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id eu11so3511200pac.28 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 06:20:20 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=LpHalm8sxyY50OBFJjHJIErMDJUvjfLShEssEJWzh5E=; b=awnZEnvJrmSBfmc7aw9TAMJnblrrl5gX+jYdpY9IZLN36x7a79V9S6eTYDtG4/rkEB lKdOkzAkuzJiFTPPrCeVM5gAel9b1GOoJ/Y0snKV1kHlA6eThMNAfRqDow7mldAHzI5D HBjeRBHptCZjjhCBjJKIoxR4tu4KFO/xo553ukLsizP5y8HKhrxpx2FAal7FAMJpadek dLV0QO79I31YZfd0Q71oG1skrA16345hZh6iUKsxUI8geN2p+h3lwAKUTDDSpwbsTbKi SSxMaUAJunUJEgt/v5uNAbznV+T451UMgcSc4PvOdapVWj0tdetwcaf1/hPTM0Go1b87 A2zg== m3mr7173507pdp.66.1413724819943; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 06:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (ip72-209-31-226.ri.ri.cox.net. [72.209.31.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ml5sm3905712pab.32.2014.10.19.06.20.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Oct 2014 06:20:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Atkinson Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:20:17 -0400 To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Rear fenders Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net My rear fenders are okay except the door side and the whole from face was filled with bondo. I only see a repair kit for the lower end of the fender? Is it better to just buy new fenders? Anyone have any experience with quality on new units? Thanks, Simon Cell 860-324-0248 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 07:22:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A9A25855CE for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AA6258093A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:19:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id pn19so2690619lab.0 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 06:22:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=q+PwCtcAPZuI8PipKhBtQTC4PY+dr5al2xgBFgeEv+A=; b=uYLW4NmG2z4dHH1l7vUWtwlJAyxKt8c89gL7cH9JF1qq8woIjsm6GBS7SesKF17efr 08DnEYuRmXDthI1qKunJWQL7m2+T+W3o2xFDVUxc+f1gUgSQdO0TstmUfgfBIY854NmQ 6++4TmBIRzOkRwUXDCv1+xOXUc4DjiEn3asU3RWZZujiiZneQN1VAPinbRgWTsEWl9S9 iYKwRKFdOkxUKVQ1TW93sn4JWo3xgh/bdQ0ISpHVtzObB32C1bwqulAgpihcTGWxvzIS kf4wkmDZe7oONJMn8B87Zv+dK2OwLJdn76CcKCKpMkisKXGS3qw/8StHaofyeC1fB3/q H1FA== ug4mr2723780lbb.82.1413724937174; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 06:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.196 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 06:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:22:17 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] Tool kit components Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net In order to tidy up the final details on #174 I require 3 small parts for the tool kit. If anyone has extra originals of these that I could purchase I would very much appreciate their contacting me off line. 1. Spark plug and tappet feeler gauge. 2. Type valve core extractor. 3. Lucas ignition feeler and screwdriver I'm aware the reproductions of some of these are available but i would like to try to get originals if possible. Many thanks, Michael S BN1 #174 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 07:26:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D7F25855E1 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:26:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E73E2584C17 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:26:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id gm9so2641994lab.41 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 06:29:37 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=r+JpHqIjI3whNwus7Au5Xlhl3dRnusIN5IeiZZXrj+Q=; b=J7eL2/BheJ7n40kB22gh+gUufihZhkLAKyLAAH6r3ceFp7R/ck393Td1yWwrmitkJP oH+32VicitrR7qe2rMitCgN1i18MCoxSyeh2AFaaTWAqOinXULnhd5mLzNR4uFGH/nyr 56etWa3CYCYohNbWm+tWRDBQGmNhfSRun2CkVoT4SBX0rncd/E97ob+ANZkiSpD4AFal pfvC4nhS2Iz71sbjaaNvzVcGZIQ4daEZk56No8vVvPOF3sznbU2yOG1QOk0QhJ7GLvvs Cambv2IgQOMJNJiRx4gbBoUB8zZw5rt897oSuj8pZR+oN6hRv/MwUtWYWhj99psNXgJx 88WA== aj2mr21343243lbd.70.1413725377299; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 06:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.196 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 06:29:37 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:29:37 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: Simon Atkinson Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear fenders Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Simon, I still have several rebuilt original fenders, and shrouds, check here ... In my experience they fit much better than the reproductions. Michael S BN1 #174 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Simon Atkinson wrote: > My rear fenders are okay except the door side and the whole from face was > filled with bondo. I only see a repair kit for the lower end of the > fender? Is > it better to just buy new fenders? Anyone have any experience with quality > on > new units? > > Thanks, > Simon > Cell 860-324-0248 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 08:06:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DDD258572F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:06:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078A32584C68 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:05:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.107]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 527a1p0062Ka2Q50128PfQ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:08:23 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-057v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.67]) by resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 528N1p00K1TddKW0128NAB; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:08:23 +0000 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:08:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: Chris Scholz References: <3C36C85E-17B8-44D7-80B5-27FB6F7EEB17@visioncenterpc.com> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Remove bolts lower A arm Thread-Index: Ac/rdGl6ocKi7R1hTXa+teKA6dg9GAiGcIaP s=q20140121; t=1413727703; bh=yPZYLTWWPk3aNeXCWceq7r/B+eVlORSJVUtlS50CMvQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=YmhHovSwpL02ErZisY+ZFuc1Dhf9NLZkVuXqpaknm5pvA/D9dvHHB0X27MoRQhugP vK4N0Zsie5FtjaibAnDQ/zK5RsMbK8uMS/NtSq7XkjEFDHnkr0+E1NOFVa1uRkpAnI IbP3hqg05BtIvQPKGFPCmV6Ml2aIC+PGzwfTsQ9fC7i70qxL+zGLETKDo5igE1bhow sN9FRLS7mLAa/VO0deq6PCiTpxY7BSsxy2u91HUVDPyI0MuVHIi1UUa9cvnviVRGws Vrzwwo0HW5298UCpuJElUgwOIKK8Ltzw7UEv9eea8AlNi7pGeE0mCQ3vIvUTlgS84M V/xmnMz8b/rMg== Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Just about my least favorite job on a Healey. If you can get just a little clearance between the big, washer-shaped head you can use a pickle fork (aka ball joint separator) and a good-sized hammer to wedge the bolt out. Not elegant, and the bolt head will probably deform a little, but it can be straightened out on the bench. To get a little clearance and, if you're lucky, maybe get the bolt loose put the nut back on a few thread to protect the threads and use a pry bar against the nut, bracing somewhere on the frame. Put some anti-seize on the bolt when you put it back in and maybe spare yourself the grief next time. Anyone knows a better way I'd be glad to hear it. Bob ----- Original Message ----- I am restoring a '59 100-6 and I am having trouble getting the 2 big bolts out that connect the lower A arms to the frame. Any ideas? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 08:07:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9210F2585765 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:07:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E7D2584C68 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:05:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([67.0.180.208]) by p3plsmtpa07-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 528j1p00J4WAT4b0128jq8; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:08:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:08:41 -0600 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Chris Scholz , AustinHealey List References: <3C36C85E-17B8-44D7-80B5-27FB6F7EEB17@visioncenterpc.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sawsall... :-) On 10/19/2014 2:12 AM, Chris Scholz wrote: > I am restoring a '59 100-6 and I am having trouble getting the 2 big bolts out > that connect the lower A arms to the frame. Any ideas? Thanks. > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye@porterscustom.com > > > -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 08:51:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160812584CAF for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:51:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C402584BFC for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:44:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.159] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 14:47:46 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.136] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 14:47:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 14:47:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 3171 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2014 14:47:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413730065; bh=K55kaAwRQb3S8DgnsL3Vdqu/xvVnZmLBS9JrRapWw9s=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rJBT3FztqfRkoNpT0ImfVH2qD7emFWYk37B3tXXWB6GclvFbnjRAUJfTrvFKt0IXz7tRKT2aoME5fn8B/yGOXqbSYEMbBDCnOIwzPLaNGuV+cCBDARnmZzQpWcNVZ5UDHZlWOuBRUqmO6M2RLVnfi72JHnv//TcROOZelWOW/ss= xA_77vmKhvYks9oIjzGAU3Qa5ORb_Bg2gJItiYBMgGOqOTnVnFG4Wx4PUUOy 5OFzQFv9ktPSmiISHPUGZ65khM7DcX3ERvHo6buN0kO43HTh7nluF8xjGwXE sWFJ_vfQrDBsRwbIlIAn4D7q55Gju6B5FgQSZuR1wNySrObNuqx54BoKYP6A OM0wcM5o0toj2oOIP7gALW9t607TtxOQ8VcdGrudWuf2jdpR01LrkXdWDyqE 0hlOi0uFHoGPeKBM_F_adovq_3p.jfY2SfF3OOUaJfz2F5O7gYWfIfXE36Mf IVy07aT6O3Ed5Dgs9mzoPWggqtu4zzTN7DCbTlsgpo6KbwQIU2aunaayBiXo 7tPp3damb7aLQ5bzqhFpylh_eZkqE1LTp6.gLFWkJAK_8rJOj35ufXec_JKB .ozPs4kZcqVJ5VqiR54UDu0IXHufAwxWGfmfgVa_Na2sb6I2TnY5MIRqFyqC mwdlTUvpOfOV8hi44BGnF28HLvnr72NehMVnJmZ4iFZquk7UML_8yBRx.Spl 5MURx.SlDf3jhXni9PA-- Received: from [76.106.152.151] by web184701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:47:45 PDT SSBoYXZlIG5ldmVyIGRvbmUgdGhlIHRhc2sgYXQgaGFuZCBidXQgd2lsbCByZXBvcnQgYSBzdHVkeSB0aGF0IGNhbWUgZnJvbSBhIHB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIGNhbGxlZCBzb21ldGhpbmcgbGlrZSBNYWNoaW5pc3QncyBNb250aGx5IGluIHdoaWNoIGEgY29tYmluYXRpb24gb2YgZXF1YWwgYW1vdW50cyBvZiBBVEYgYW5kIGFjZXRvbmUgcHJvdmVkIHN1cGVyaW9yIHRvIENyb2lsIGFuZCBvdGhlciBkZWRpY2F0ZWQgcnVzdC1icmVha2VyIGxpcXVpZHMuICBDcm9pbCBoYXMgbG9uZyBiZWVuIHVzZWQgdG8gaGVscCABMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:47:45 -0700 From: rkeysor To: "Healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] Stubborn bolts/nuts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I have never done the task at hand but will report a study that came from a publication called something like Machinist's Monthly in which a combination of equal amounts of ATF and acetone proved superior to Croil and other dedicated rust-breaker liquids. Croil has long been used to help free rifle barrels from gun receivers, those things generally being really torqued when they were installed. There are countless old military rifles that pose a removal challenge. I now keep a small bottle of the ATF/acetone mix, though I haven't tackled anything very challenging using the mix. My Croil now sits on the shelf. I can provide a reference to the study if anyone requests it. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 09:36:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898612584CE0 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:36:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FA42584C7E for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:30:42 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=f9GRR/RhyXe2ZQUzg/5ETDUzyfyaPxSfbqofLdoGp4O0L6NWIhdcDgR8k5n+riAl; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.223.133.22] (helo=bob1.local) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1XfsUX-0007Da-8f; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 11:33:57 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 11:33:56 -0400 From: Bob Haskell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.8.0 To: rkeysor , "Healeys@autox.team.net" References: <1413730065.7740.YahooMailNeo@web184701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stubborn bolts/nuts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Testing Different Types of Penetrating Oils by Lloyd Bender Machinist Workshop, Vol. 20 No. 2 Apr-May 2007 Just to correct the spelling, it's Kano Labs' Kroil. With regards to the A arm bolts, there is a hole on the front (and rear) face of the shock tower that one can put a washer/nut/bolt arranged to push on the A arm bolt. Cheers, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php On 10/19/2014 10:47 AM, rkeysor wrote: > I have never done the task at hand but will report a study that came from a publication called something like Machinist's Monthly in which a combination of equal amounts of ATF and acetone proved superior to Croil and other dedicated rust-breaker liquids. Croil has long been used to help free rifle barrels from gun receivers, those things generally being really torqued when they were installed. There are countless old military rifles that pose a removal challenge. I now keep a small bottle of the ATF/acetone mix, though I haven't tackled anything very challenging using the mix. My Croil now sits on the shelf. I can provide a reference to the study if anyone requests it. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 09:55:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14212585785 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:55:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.183]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1762584D19 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:54:38 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1413734274; bh=sAe2AbLCtUf3wpm/eJBTHxB3C+3quZe7naQ3V30OgZ4=; h=From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=Lu5ip7SO7oPqtABQWBVE7lkogg5YcCK8XkHYbiTP9Abl9q6ZhuMxZsASqGh/+vnyOxAoEHyVa+KnkkHGNkX+wz2iya8bsOqHMxbPozMbUKs0bdimQWius3O/TEmPKYCHeUEtHzHXcxXCgPZs7PEXkOF+C/snLP1jeUKBbuPZZR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=rgw9EhOq7gMwrt3dDS9nvKhpjWQ0BouyqvxdjGHvO62PgC8FCJgdBYzlQo3oTLizP/zSPHwSwsEpbiq/bnZPpPOY+3pCIPGvIOdUvPteE53qGcgyuhzLtSLDTCiza6fQsUNAHX5CDb8mxCE2QRVxwRrYFt3NTVm1Lz5lp0UHvm4=; Received: from [66.196.81.159] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 15:57:54 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.100] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 15:57:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 15:57:53 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413734273; bh=sAe2AbLCtUf3wpm/eJBTHxB3C+3quZe7naQ3V30OgZ4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=VRxkI3BG9FNJQ+D//Wgn/LEHeUYa3vnYGM27fq+TnebyRmEDCcOwQcxCFYhcA4XFzMX3wMzVUrbaZzEBaglTbcUEpzqs4GOifq1UU4ewhF6x9a2LBDgJgzbQ0oh0aCRKJ0nPu153gqRWNYSSK/Np98//OKm6/LRSpIceagbCQcw= p8M0nBfFaYODjrPXMMYTmcut9WzQD0tozUpq24AHzBz90WzxU1tVH4jcbHpq zA_WnHOpA3kSC_NK3bjBYLLVkKtNgmvF_zSH_ZEg_WUTbGjADWqAKzvN7ApM .gZN0BB11ZjY1gnzzzvAJ.2JlMocZZu25jpXVwiyoVAk6XtagsLf.1wXJqQp _b2UfbFM9KPRnfeSVIDSQTKL7r94KFs3dFDd_fOlgVBwISS4u6N39SiUmT.C UZhx.hMGflmkn8Ql6uToE6qJ9GGYiW9WFQ1cJlm4xgt7S9uEQYUq1m11xcjd _UJeVmb5JNA_PNIrmEQnSLmpLJ_SMDbHdvMgOILIX6H_i0tolrzsp6rLhMpv buJDYx2nAnei0qeCQhH5faELFd7e8PwiE.qoCo944iySFXnh24vhfu283AuV Y59dXx6XtC0T1MN3tZh6XawnH0as9Mpn4iL7oXgV3M1QWfqRnP2Fszk33NY_ zaoi0q4tDHCbHPUR.tcsXwDEUsKX5vgY0Q6_0naWGYg8amhLCDpP2 From: "John Spaur" To: "'Bob Spidell'" , "'Chris Scholz'" References: <3C36C85E-17B8-44D7-80B5-27FB6F7EEB17@visioncenterpc.com> <1974327696.13277503.1413727702610.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:57:49 -0700 Thread-Index: AQESXzqGaF3rB5A3ZeTreDgPXUbkNAHp40t/naNci6A= Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Make a fulcrum pin extractor like the one Bob is referring too and as shown in this sketch that was provided by another lister a while back. Sorry, but I forgot the person's name. John '62 BT7 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a name of Fulcum pin extractor.doc] _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 09:57:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2FA258579A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:57:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312312584D3E for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:57:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.129] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 16:00:48 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.235] by tm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 16:00:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 16:00:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 79720 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2014 16:00:48 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413734448; bh=FY3i9naTNpBQrtbICnuLOkSgMutxX6sVOprwLkXk2n4=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oHY4LpbTu3pZjfrRYSJwavy81VYeICImGL+TmXQujvGgezZ9bRdabsr+cTuY5IRC/iPmnkiLCyLJOecIKRuTl1FxUG0C5aUahpg++ALmBKrtRnX1GdCQJvLToK1YJ71cs/6jcBeRAxeydRmYlgBcsOt9y9QS4P/ku48OjK3n+KY= EtU.w8UMq0bPB5fPgyf08CFTy8rq47FYIilD65JENIABKvo36oxIt3HVV_JT M7UqVJJRJJQwB2TQnUpL7qpTJItnt0n3ae9T6U8XD87cA1H1STHGvClxJ_KM I8UKReV3h4at.CpmGTHzhv._Ag9fL1DmD37k0gQKuvojaEJfQkVYHVhRr.ye 6N3t6wD3U7x7IQGiekwEXLH698.4hFhd0x7OYdJHoqCnQJ.Rxa.0O0FTE6Io ZZpbuvDMO1TfL.i2sor6DxJPgZ8nD4N_Es9GfXa4_u4gCKJUE_mC2n6tt33q 0YGBGnEYCcaLyY3XGDIEtF5AI.PMUbWwY4FqArQGEO1Y5Lg3yO1G_TUmN3f8 YEHEQBkpz47LdL7KkNNHnR1TFQ8eE2dshg6TwxDEZ18ScMr6pu4FhCswXqsx oB9zZPGjtqU6jV97l5tZIHWdPGMWtUoLAGdzeISWlsh5PD8shJT4VaQ6ejtU pOx.iodLG5uHCF3KkVw6jwwKSXoGI9ShVbaS9iBw7GhLIalxS_.9WoT6sAsk b6d0- Received: from [174.116.224.134] by web122304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:00:48 PDT VGhlIG51dCBhbmQgYm9sdCBtZXRob2QgdGhhdCBCb2IgSGFza2VsbCBzdWdnZXN0cyBpcyB3b3J0aCBhIHRyeS0gaXQgd29ya2VkIG9uIG9uZSBvdXQgb2YgZm91ciBvZiBtaW5lLgpEb24ndCBwdXNoIGl0IHRvbyBoYXJkIHRob3VnaCwgb3IgeW91IGNhbiBzdGFydCB0byBkaXN0b3J0IHRoaW5ncy4gRm9yIHRoZSByZW1haW5pbmcgdGhyZWUgSSBoYWQgdG8gdXNlIGEgc2F3c2FsbC4KSXQncyBhIG1pc2VyYWJsZSBqb2IsIGJ1dCBpdCdzIGEgcGxlYXN1cmUgdG8gcHV0IHRoZSBuZXcgcGFydHMgaW4gZXZlbnQBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:00:48 -0700 From: Stephen Hutchings To: "Healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] A arm bolts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The nut and bolt method that Bob Haskell suggests is worth a try- it worked on one out of four of mine. Don't push it too hard though, or you can start to distort things. For the remaining three I had to use a sawsall. It's a miserable job, but it's a pleasure to put the new parts in eventually...mind that if you get locknuts with the new bolts, there were some that did not travel over enough thread to truly lock. There was an email thread about this last year. Good luck, Stephen BJ8 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 12:11:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C065A2584C71 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:11:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from vms173023pub.verizon.net (vms173023pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AFF25809CA for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:00:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from OwnerPC ([unknown] [173.63.82.204]) by vms173023.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDP00KZCE6BAR80@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net> for healeys@autox.team.net; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:03:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "John Sims" Cc: "'healeys'" References: <3C36C85E-17B8-44D7-80B5-27FB6F7EEB17@visioncenterpc.com> <1974327696.13277503.1413727702610.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <001201cfebb5$703f7a90$50be6fb0$@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:03:44 -0400 Thread-index: AQESXzqGaF3rB5A3ZeTreDgPXUbkNAHp40t/AWApF5ydmH6LYA== Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Look here: http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/image/142125264 John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Spaur Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:58 AM To: 'Bob Spidell'; 'Chris Scholz' Cc: 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Make a fulcrum pin extractor like the one Bob is referring too and as shown in this sketch that was provided by another lister a while back. Sorry, but I forgot the person's name. John '62 BT7 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a name of Fulcum pin extractor.doc] $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6@verizon.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 14:09:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD6C2584D8F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:09:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout04.plus.net (avasout04.plus.net [212.159.14.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5FF2584B3E for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:04:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([87.113.186.176]) by avasout04 with smtp id 587Z1p0053omtY70187bVx; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:07:35 +0100 a=OHsJ0AeUTQY3bZu7tSQrSg==:117 a=OHsJ0AeUTQY3bZu7tSQrSg==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=2ciaTQvf_9oA:10 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=Y0T2hLxcguoMghnJKCoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=JZOctmpaRE4A:10 a=mjkzi7YtZmQA:10 a=v_A0yhIfZ5EA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=5E_m_W0abI6pvtc-GJ0A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:07:33 +0100 Thread-index: Ac/r2FHaIr/P00h4TjS0wYOvi7CHBA== Content-language: en-gb Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop white Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net A question I've been to ask for ages.............. My BT7 is Colorado Red over Old English White with a Colorado Red hardtop. Occasionally I look at it and I think "God, I've created a giant coke can on wheels".....you know, the red and white one. I ponder changing the OEW on the car to Colorado Red and the hardtop to white, per the Works cars. Was their white OEW? Or was it a whiter white if you know what I mean??? Simon _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 14:39:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206AA2584DD4 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:39:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout04.plus.net (avasout04.plus.net [212.159.14.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533352584D8B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:31:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([87.113.186.176]) by avasout04 with smtp id 58ar1p0033omtY7018asFk; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:34:53 +0100 a=OHsJ0AeUTQY3bZu7tSQrSg==:117 a=OHsJ0AeUTQY3bZu7tSQrSg==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=2ciaTQvf_9oA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=IGUr49VeRgpFFbzyw1AA:9 a=95dul7dpM28pVq5O:21 a=ebDQ7t9jXNu7QyAL:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=GRuFdhU3rW4A:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:34:50 +0100 Thread-index: Ac/r2FHaIr/P00h4TjS0wYOvi7CHBAAA5GJQ Content-language: en-gb Subject: [Healeys] FW: Hardtop white Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I was trying to say "A question I've been meaning to ask.." Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan Sent: 19 October 2014 21:08 To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop white A question I've been to ask for ages.............. My BT7 is Colorado Red over Old English White with a Colorado Red hardtop. Occasionally I look at it and I think "God, I've created a giant coke can on wheels".....you know, the red and white one. I ponder changing the OEW on the car to Colorado Red and the hardtop to white, per the Works cars. Was their white OEW? Or was it a whiter white if you know what I mean??? Simon $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 14:54:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8492585A8F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:54:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-02.shaw.ca (smtp-out-03.shaw.ca [64.59.136.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F442584DD4 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:53:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown (HELO KagsLaptop) ([24.108.29.71]) by smtp-out-02.shaw.ca with SMTP; 19 Oct 2014 14:56:11 -0600 From: "Earl Kagna" To: "Simon Lachlan" References: <000301cfebd8$534221e0$f9c665a0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:56:09 -0700 Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hardtop white Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Simon: You could always paint the car in Pepsi colours, or even better, in the colours of a good beer. That would be an interesting Healey! I'm attaching a couple of photos of my Colorado Red tri-carb with it's OEW hardtop installed - maybe it will help you decide what you want to do. For what it's worth, I've always felt that the Healey roadsters look better with an (appropriately) contrasting hardtop. If you are already OEW in the coves, you could simply paint the top OEW (it should match the OEW on the body), and see if you like it, You could always paint the coves red afterwards. I'll wager that the car will look spectacular with the coves and hardtop both white. In any case, I don't know about you, but my Healey's hardtops spend their time in the basement in storage - I'll occasionally mount one of them for a car show simply to look a bit different once in a while. I have often thought of painting my coves OEW - just about did it last year when I scratched one of them and needed some paint repair. I know that the list will strip the attachments, if anyone else is interested, please send an e-mail. Cheers Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb -----Original Message----- From: Simon Lachlan Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:07 PM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop white A question I've been to ask for ages.............. My BT7 is Colorado Red over Old English White with a Colorado Red hardtop. Occasionally I look at it and I think "God, I've created a giant coke can on wheels".....you know, the red and white one. I ponder changing the OEW on the car to Colorado Red and the hardtop to white, per the Works cars. Was their white OEW? Or was it a whiter white if you know what I mean??? Simon [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSCN1311.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSCN1317.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSCN1318.JPG] _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 14:55:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA99E2585AD5 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:55:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mailrelay2.public.one.com (mailrelay2.public.one.com [91.198.169.125]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B712585A9F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:54:45 -0600 (MDT) s=20140924; h=from:subject:date:to:mime-version:content-type; bh=iCnA4nvZ4lU5W1NuO6+VWPnxoZmJtDp78kAzSunCjTE=; b=u8kSC/8IgRw/sjIQcrlqESXZt+PBUa9/NdH2RmY2U7ivsvkohaXXSdLrPLl9w4nkvHomQlmjV9WHS auqvVM6xjS7tnm5ZcrlN10y3rHDtB2Zh89budKlFommyG2iaBVvkg1J3iuLMXTDnyrMcLfC4662LyE VO85/eWVynwgf0Uk= Received: from [192.168.1.5] (unknown [37.196.10.120]) by smtpfilter2.public.one.com (Halon Mail Gateway) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:57:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Per Schoerner Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:57:59 +0200 To: Simon Lachlan , "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hardtop white Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net OEW Per ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ----- Fren: Simon Lachlan Skickat: 2014-10-19 22:12 Till: healeys@autox.team.net Dmne: [Healeys] Hardtop white A question I've been to ask for ages.............. My BT7 is Colorado Red over Old English White with a Colorado Red hardtop. Occasionally I look at it and I think "God, I've created a giant coke can on wheels".....you know, the red and white one. I ponder changing the OEW on the car to Colorado Red and the hardtop to white, per the Works cars. Was their white OEW? Or was it a whiter white if you know what I mean??? Simon Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/per@schoerner.se _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 16:09:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6542584E7B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:09:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f46.google.com (mail-la0-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859CE2580771 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:01:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id gi9so2951037lab.5 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:04:18 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kuTzMVQFlrj9MK6ojfdvyLx9spCRwftqUq/hjT3I1+0=; b=ZOO341yeB3c9r9bJXe9/ZgbFtRXmnmLRya9dU0Z41CXwMwHRPRHPq4AJLr+9k0ZL8P Ta+CRCoEtvuDaneSpu0ODd6N6lqKBKeemuDOJqhhx3x32s2ukdEtByO2bnvXbd5FaOND pI23Kko0ThBmji7S90CFlwidWhgNq/+dmJYleybuQt2minqFGBi8WVAhzPmfcwmnXo/F lFB+9E0xMASUyR9MzqAhcTBDgK3rsY4ymCtfhniXEH27jWOzgtzPAjBRQ/Q0WecOkZpJ HE+gXqK9vPi4zu+dHcpwwevUFBwOsZ6f6xeQ53Ig2VaFWYc7xaxQXjPwS4SH7aKw2zk0 KYlg== Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.196 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 18:04:17 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] New posting on my Blog...early Steering Wheel Hubs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=1314 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 16:56:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73A32585B27 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:56:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BA925807F5 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:56:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.1.11] (n49s039.fttx.shentel.net [204.111.49.39]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NDP00B9MRUYB640@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for healeys@autox.team.net; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:59:23 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-19_03:2014-10-17,2014-10-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410190219 From: Linwood Rose Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 18:59:21 -0400 To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] remote slave cylinder bleeder for AH 3000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I purchased one for a Big Healey and one for the Bugeye from Doug Reid some time ago. He was such a talented fellow. Is anyone selling them now? Lin _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 17:24:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA502585B31 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A38A258084B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.1.11] (n49s039.fttx.shentel.net [204.111.49.39]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NDP00AGOT68M170@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for healeys@autox.team.net; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:27:46 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-19_03:2014-10-17,2014-10-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410190224 From: Linwood Rose Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:27:44 -0400 References: To: healeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] remote slave cylinder bleeder for AH 3000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, John. I looked at Tom's site and he does not list them, but I will call to see. Lin > On Oct 19, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Linwood Rose wrote: > > I purchased one for a Big Healey and one for the Bugeye from Doug Reid some > time ago. He was such a talented fellow. > > Is anyone selling them now? > > > Lin > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/linwoodrose@mac.com > Lin Rose 1959 AN5 Bugeye - pure driving enjoyment, go-kart with a body. 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" - owned since 1971, my first car and still have it! 1964 Jag MKII - current project 1969 Mercedes-Benz 280SL _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 17:25:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF81B2585B1E for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:25:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail14.tpgi.com.au (mail14.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F98C2585B55 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:24:44 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1413761278; bh=u/G3Z2bvUGErZ8q19LotAvEM9t761619jywNsIFeV+U=; h=X-TPG-Abuse:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=fB4SyW/t4VAg20oTR0kEzjl+oWqoiKHRWrmVNGE/epbmREx92uhyw5Q5I3p97whf5 6XAdPJQ5CZOXIP1cPeLToQlxz1w6b8Els7iU3hIfBK0fzRmMoS41lHQTadiqMvPz/R XfYRlhTD2EMjfGL2JZQ4HseAx7AWsCTdRJ8ZzSQM= date=Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:27:57 +1100 Received: from PatrickQuinnPC (60-241-154-199.static.tpgi.com.au [60.241.154.199]) by mail14.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from p_cquinn@tpg.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s9JNRtp4000691; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:27:57 +1100 From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" To: "'John Sims'" References: <3C36C85E-17B8-44D7-80B5-27FB6F7EEB17@visioncenterpc.com> <1974327696.13277503.1413727702610.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <001201cfebb5$703f7a90$50be6fb0$@sbcglobal.net> <003301cfebc7$0640c100$12c24300$@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:27:54 +1100 Thread-index: AQESXzqGaF3rB5A3ZeTreDgPXUbkNAHp40t/AWApF5wCL0twLp2HXwyw Content-language: en-au Cc: 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net G'day About 12 months back I was having the same sort of fun so I made up a similar tool and despite being time consuming I did manage to get them out. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Monday, 20 October 2014 5:04 AM Cc: 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Look here: http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/image/142125264 John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Spaur Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:58 AM To: 'Bob Spidell'; 'Chris Scholz' Cc: 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Make a fulcrum pin extractor like the one Bob is referring too and as shown in this sketch that was provided by another lister a while back. Sorry, but I forgot the person's name. John '62 BT7 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 19:10:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC18825844B0 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:10:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from visioncenterpc.com (cbl-static-80-009.machlink.com [69.49.80.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F0C2580313 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:00:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 10.50.10.11 ([10.50.10.11]) by server.visioncenter.local ([10.50.10.11]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 01:02:31 +0000 From: "Chris Scholz" Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:03:28 -0500 References: <3C36C85E-17B8-44D7-80B5-27FB6F7EEB17@visioncenterpc.com> <1974327696.13277503.1413727702610.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <001201cfebb5$703f7a90$50be6fb0$@sbcglobal.net> <003301cfebc7$0640c100$12c24300$@verizon.net> <004201cfebf4$502c93c0$f085bb40$@tpg.com.au> To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" thread-topic: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm thread-index: Ac/sAYbbWq5Z7oC8RzCadszYgelJMA== Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The front suspension is in good shape. I will have the frame and suspension blasted with baking soda and the frame will be primed and painted OEW. The overspray can be handled and limited so it won't coat the suspension too much. Then I could hand paint all the suspension pieces gloss black. I could then leave the lower a arms attached. Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone Chris Scholz OD > On Oct 19, 2014, at 6:28 PM, "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" wrote: > > G'day > > About 12 months back I was having the same sort of fun so I made up a > similar tool and despite being time consuming I did manage to get them out. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Blue Mountains, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims > Sent: Monday, 20 October 2014 5:04 AM > Cc: 'healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm > > Look here: > > http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/image/142125264 > > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > www.healey6.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John > Spaur > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:58 AM > To: 'Bob Spidell'; 'Chris Scholz' > Cc: 'healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm > > Make a fulcrum pin extractor like the one Bob is referring too and as shown > in this sketch that was provided by another lister a while back. Sorry, but > I forgot the person's name. > > John > '62 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drscholz@visioncenterpc.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 06:57:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B362584D83 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 06:57:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E920C25808A5 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 06:52:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([67.0.180.208]) by p3plsmtpa11-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 5QvR1p00H4WAT4b01QvScT; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 05:55:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 06:55:20 -0600 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Chris Scholz , Patrick & Caroline Quinn References: <3C36C85E-17B8-44D7-80B5-27FB6F7EEB17@visioncenterpc.com> <1974327696.13277503.1413727702610.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <001201cfebb5$703f7a90$50be6fb0$@sbcglobal.net> <003301cfebc7$0640c100$12c24300$@verizon.net> <004201cfebf4$502c93c0$f085bb40$@tpg.com.au> <9CECD715-94BA-4DFC-BA03-1DB9E7D508D7@visioncenterpc.com> Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I'd use a more aggressive media to blast the frame. Soda will take forever. On 10/19/2014 7:03 PM, Chris Scholz wrote: > The front suspension is in good shape. I will have the frame and suspension > blasted with baking soda and the frame will be primed and painted OEW. The > overspray can be handled and limited so it won't coat the suspension too much. > Then I could hand paint all the suspension pieces gloss black. I could then > leave the lower a arms attached. Any thoughts? > > Sent from my iPhone > Chris Scholz OD > >> On Oct 19, 2014, at 6:28 PM, "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" > wrote: >> G'day >> >> About 12 months back I was having the same sort of fun so I made up a >> similar tool and despite being time consuming I did manage to get them out. >> >> Hoo Roo >> >> Patrick Quinn >> Blue Mountains, Australia >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John > Sims >> Sent: Monday, 20 October 2014 5:04 AM >> Cc: 'healeys' >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm >> >> Look here: >> >> http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/image/142125264 >> >> >> John Sims, BN6 >> Aberdeen, NJ >> >> www.healey6.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John >> Spaur >> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:58 AM >> To: 'Bob Spidell'; 'Chris Scholz' >> Cc: 'healeys' >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Remove bolts lower A arm >> >> Make a fulcrum pin extractor like the one Bob is referring too and as shown >> in this sketch that was provided by another lister a while back. Sorry, but >> I forgot the person's name. >> >> John >> '62 BT7 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drscholz@visioncenterpc.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye@porterscustom.com > > > -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 12:00:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B095225852E5 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:00:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f181.google.com (mail-qc0-f181.google.com [209.85.216.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E192580092 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:59:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id r5so4098336qcx.40 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:02:47 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0fhnFZaoR8RESOCVqo++TfGBiyPLne288JIRhmRp+2c=; b=P5Ahx5mguDzuGgI8DWi1dST864nRvhvNUKGTDADihtuzWSyKzYaolAVWcutp/b3sxx WUkjSOjvdXKAxUhpOn0JTNGsYOovYZ+FOUisjWOTqdIFhlWasNMTOKEcK1NGa0sFQ9fw 7UBay9j+E3KNqSMI46TSUkJq651qxPzWF9twVyvWyPJjC90AG6gJOlMRPL+18xNcIArO BPFKQCO3W/WbekX2PTQ5Un6oIUGrDlFbXD6FDLZ50qT2e8LJjmjXk9Fihc5K202kkWhr 28t9mkJnd5aQcFK7ivyof6EM7J7oPMw6nxbMQWVrvUgwB85sQan0YoGZu9XWv9xtlrsJ iw6Q== l2mr23531079qaf.28.1413828167228; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.3.197 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:02:47 -0700 (PDT) References: <6d02f4f2-de34-4de8-bfc7-b67aeb1acc1b@me.com> <422511233.9374990.1413299715809.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <543D4E6F.20708@chello.nl> <1537648624.9474613.1413305223064.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:02:47 -1000 From: Kimo Briske To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Running Temps--Was: Re: Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I fabricated a sheet metal pan [ for my BT7 ] to fill the space between the front shroud and frame below the radiator. the air that comes in the grill goes thru the radiator instead of under the car. the pan is 16 3/4" wide, 13 1/2" front/back. A 1 1/2" lip on the back fastens it to the frame rail. A 2 1/4" hole is located for the radiator drain. Stock radiator and a 6 blade alum. fan from Norm Nock. No cooling problems. Aloha, Jim > > doesn't. Our BN2 behaves the same way. > > > > The only comparison I can think of is air-cooled aircraft engines, which > > usually have an oil cooler. There is a valve called a > > Vernatherm--essentially a bi-metal strip--that closes off oil flow to the > > oil cooler radiator to allow the engine to warm to operating temperature > > before the cooler is brought 'online.' But, an air-cooled engine can > > dissipate a lot more heat than an Austin lump. > > > > Is it possible the huge chunk of iron in front could be 'self-cooling' to > > a point then, beyond that point, even with wide-open thermostat, cannot > > maintain a set temperature? My guess is that at speed there is sufficient > > airflow to cool the engine--even below the thermostat set point--but once > > stuck in traffic or with a load there isn't enough excess airflow and the > > cooling system's capability is exceeded (as Kees mentioned). > > > > Bob > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > In general the temperature should be more or less constant under any > > condition, just slightly above the opening temperature of the > > thermostat. If the temperature shows to be lower than the thermostat > > opening temperature the thermostat is at fault or is the wrong type (it > > should be of the sleeved type), assuming the heater is turned off. If > > very cold, with the heater plus heater fan on maximum, the temperature > > could drop below the opening temperature of the thermostat. > > If the temperature increases significantly the cooling capacity is > > insufficient because of blockages/dirt, faulty water pump or the wrong > > radiator capacity. > > Older cars can have insufficient cooling capacity at low speeds/engine > > revs, hence the advise to fit a thermostatically controlled electric fan > > when the car is used in modern traffic. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/kimobriske@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 15:43:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2482584C71 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:43:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0089.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A8925846BB for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:19:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874FA12BA16 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:23:11 +0000 (UTC) RULES_HIT:41:72:152:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:800:962:973:983:988:989:1189:1208:1221:1260:1308:1309:1313:1314:1345:1381:1431:1437:1516:1517:1518:1534:1538:1566:1575:1588:1589:1594:1711:1714:1730:1749:1777:1792:2557:2559:2562:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3586:3642:3769:3865:3866:3867:3868:3872:5007:6238:7653:7774:7903:8603:9177:9468:10004:10400:10848:11658:11815:11914:12043:12050:12517:12519:12555:13139:21080, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 Received: from p6520f (66-78-119-53.access.myhighspeed.ca [66.78.119.53]) (Authenticated sender: ruvino@ripnet.com) by omf05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:23:10 +0000 (UTC) From: To: "healeylist" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:23:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] poster Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Several years ago a poster by Ian Nelson was available cc to the AH Club of America, a profile of a healey. Does anybody have a shot of this? I used it as wall paper until my hard drive crashed the other day and I canbt retrieve it. Please send it to ruvino@ripnet.com. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 15:44:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891172584C6F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:44:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0079.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0931A2584BEB for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:23:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5FE9EA15 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:26:24 +0000 (UTC) RULES_HIT:41:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:962:988:989:1189:1221:1260:1308:1309:1313:1314:1345:1381:1516:1517:1518:1526:1534:1536:1569:1575:1588:1589:1594:1711:1714:1730:1748:1777:1792:2557:2559:2562:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3586:3876:3877:4647:5007:6114:6238:6642:7653:8603:10004:10400:10848:11658:11914:12043:12196:12517:12519:12555:13139:21080, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 Received: from p6520f (66-78-119-53.access.myhighspeed.ca [66.78.119.53]) (Authenticated sender: ruvino@ripnet.com) by omf10.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:26:24 +0000 (UTC) From: To: "healeylist" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:26:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] correction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry AH Club USA _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 19:43:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894372584CC3 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:43:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD282580808 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:28:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170130pub.verizon.net ([192.168.1.50]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTP id <0NDT00FBJO8INE30@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for healeys@autox.team.net; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:31:30 -0500 (CDT) a=wBQ2ZckbFKGhW9ycdGfJ6w==:117 a=WNvLHNOJyYgJwihdeGKI+Q==:17 a=5fTOHU_hwI0A:10 a=qUl5J7lzbMEA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=BJS_1eeEGr7UAEoCwzkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Received: from 100.4.77.131 ([100.4.77.131]) by vznit170130 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:31:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:31:30 -0500 (CDT) From: llennep@verizon.net To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] 1960 BN7 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Listers, It is with sadness that I bring this message. My 1960 BN7 "Patches" is for sale. It has undergone a ground up restoration ending in 2001 having owned it since 1993. Still in excellent condition. Guard red (Porsche red) with two longitudinal reacing stripes down center. Red leather and vinyl interior. Lots of unique design features including spin on oil filter adaptor, cold air box, interior light, original Derrington steering wheel and more. Price $49000. If you would like further info, a few pix or come to VA to view it please respond to this email offlist. PLEASE SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY. NO FISHING. NO GAMES. Keith Pennell Newport News VA _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 13:26:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B00258086E for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:26:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm33-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm33-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F8D25804CB for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:06:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2014 19:10:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.102] by nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2014 19:07:29 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.43] by tm101.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2014 19:07:29 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.37] by tm4.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 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Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:07:28 BST RG9lcyBhbnlib2R5IGtub3cgd2hhdCB0aGUgc3RhbmRhcmQgZHdlbGwgYW5nbGUgc2hvdWxkIGJlIGZvciBhIHVubW9kaWZpZWQgQk4gMQoKVGhhbmtzCgpTdGVwaGVuATABAQEB Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:07:28 +0100 From: STEPHEN CUSS To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Does anybody know what the standard dwell angle should be for a unmodified BN 1 Thanks Stephen _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 14:43:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3C525809D6 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:43:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB97C25806FA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:26:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 6kVj1p00G5GpR5q01kVj9S; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:29:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:29:42 -0600 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: STEPHEN CUSS , "healeys@autox.team.net" References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net 38 degrees On 10/23/2014 1:07 PM, STEPHEN CUSS wrote: > Does anybody know what the standard dwell angle should be for a unmodified BN > 1 > > Thanks > > Stephen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye@porterscustom.com > > > -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 15:13:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2AC258461A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:13:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEED25806FA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:53:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so1764831lbg.0 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:57:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YWwQeG+5uQv5OdM9hz3xkUufxQvx9CZSEBOhDqUqqVs=; b=wrKIEPL0mZXrMG7F0RSRa7KbXnrp41bO5l8ibCquLssePv7dFNfMvUsHpadJ3upUTi dyeH2G3mPzf+87rx0xGdTqV29dhs0o+KpHDUmrf2OxCEz+oMr0gMVCUQg6/JArbhxSZj X7x9N2xMOySq/pWta/uR6rDFHeyl3P83sssTOQGMj0K7wIqXBwLXfFulokaj1BH0pM1k FIPS9/7oMZax9c0DP2VJGTz+nawgWU7hHR8LQyxSq7lR5in+Etr/h6R5OVnkB4BpzKLC 2s9lfgU0RKdRuDvZ+dcGZe7uQ2akbtDPusudVqA+iHua0J1xVctjzK3mdLi6FwLSIc9g uNsA== qh2mr100340lbc.5.1414097830178; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.194 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:57:10 -0700 (PDT) References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:57:10 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: STEPHEN CUSS Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Don't like to disagree with Dave but I think the BN1 has a Lucas 40321A Model DM2P4 distributor which has CCW rotation and uses a standard "High Lift Cam", 0.015" contact breaker gap which will have a closed period (dwell) of 60 degrees + or - 3 degrees. Michael S BN1 #174 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:07 PM, STEPHEN CUSS wrote: > Does anybody know what the standard dwell angle should be for a unmodified > BN > 1 > > Thanks > > Stephen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 15:13:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A2B258463E for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:13:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep40.mx.upcmail.net (fep40.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D632584450 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:58:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe40-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141023210135.FKGB553.viepfeppe40-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 23:01:35 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 6l1Y1p00f0Hh4wo01l1Yoi; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 23:01:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 23:01:33 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The dwell angle on a 4-cyl. engine is usually around 600. Kees Oudesluijs STEPHEN CUSS schreef op 23-10-2014 21:07: > Does anybody know what the standard dwell angle should be for a unmodified BN > 1 > > Thanks > > Stephen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive:http://www.team.net/archive > Forums:http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG -www.avg.com > Versie: 2015.0.5315 / Virusdatabase: 4181/8438 - datum van uitgifte: 10/23/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 17:44:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46D2258447A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:44:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f41.google.com (mail-yh0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E939F2580877 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:21:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i57so1224619yha.0 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:24:56 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:subject:date:to; bh=qs9dXC3m5bSl0ABbtm1wlLszhiq0ubWDgwCM2CRY0kY=; b=rKUTIHUfDCymENRPAm6gPgTLGVJcsO6GUBcX3KXZPmRLB3WdXakWtlvC8O9ScLfiRq fKLIt15plTtNmV4gZUl0dSp7XubXgJCbts19uutK2UzuOtIzDbImMZ3gOl+3vrNmSQsp Fbj26nKeq0d16PXQ/jPK3vMWb3FRfOhWXiU0hG1RmLCjnELM2EroqYHOaZ/aeCn1hP7F wU6XatyRS6T6gVbD6Py/yknr8csQHGhjVl+6RNlwO0qfGESpvyUkXqN6mkxe1YpBUBBr QP+J0UkrBx/pHgSi8WTrVIP7A9G4WMlaSXzIcgxnM3XjIwokAsC0EqXrkSqlOJW2U811 ae3A== u82mr695221yku.72.1414106696168; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.187.5.56] (mobile-107-107-63-70.mycingular.net. [107.107.63.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z32sm2733653qgd.40.2014.10.23.16.24.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:24:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Team.net" References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <54496CAD.4020103@chello.nl> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:24:52 -0400 To: Oudesluys Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net 600? > On Oct 23, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Oudesluys wrote: > > The dwell angle on a 4-cyl. engine is usually around 600. > Kees Oudesluijs > > > STEPHEN CUSS schreef op 23-10-2014 21:07: >> Does anybody know what the standard dwell angle should be for a unmodified BN >> 1 >> >> Thanks >> >> Stephen >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive:http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums:http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> chello.nl >> >> >> >> ----- >> Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. >> Gecontroleerd door AVG -www.avg.com >> Versie: 2015.0.5315 / Virusdatabase: 4181/8438 - datum van uitgifte: 10/23/14 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lawrence.swift@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 18:32:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E5C25847A2 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:32:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4361825804C2 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:12:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa07-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 6oFm1p00C5GpR5q01oFmqA; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:15:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:15:45 -0600 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: STEPHEN CUSS , "healeys@autox.team.net" References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net ...what I posted is the cam angle.. This can vary a bit depending on what cam is fitted.. If Healey (for instance) used a "high lift cam" then the dwell would be closer to 60 degrees. Since the cam is what ever is fitted, then one must set the gap. The wider the gap, the less the dwell and vice versa.. As a rule I tend to set the gap on the wide side to compensate for worn cams and/or bushings.. The number I posted is from the Lucas book.. dave ... on the other hand, using an old fashioned dwell meter, the number that c comes to mind is in the 52 neighborhood.. but haven't used one for years.. On 10/23/2014 1:07 PM, STEPHEN CUSS wrote: > Does anybody know what the standard dwell angle should be for a unmodified BN > 1 > > Thanks > > Stephen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye@porterscustom.com > > > -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 19:48:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D3825847F9 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:48:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B3E258474F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170031pub.verizon.net ([192.168.1.50]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTP id <0NDX006ELDQNP340@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for healeys@autox.team.net; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:35:11 -0500 (CDT) a=wBQ2ZckbFKGhW9ycdGfJ6w==:117 a=WNvLHNOJyYgJwihdeGKI+Q==:17 a=qUl5J7lzbMEA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=yghwpOarlTbvByR2tAEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=v51U3mqc40QA:10 a=J3W62TImsncA:10 Received: from 100.4.77.131 ([100.4.77.131]) by vms170031 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:35:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:35:11 -0500 (CDT) From: llennep@verizon.net To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Listers in Louisville KY Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Listers in the Louisville Kentucky area. Is there someone out there who would be willing to take a look at a nonHealey at a dealership in Radcliff for me? Will give more detail when I get a volunteer. Next day or two if possible please. Thanks in advance to whoever you are Keith _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 01:21:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB36F2584A01 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 01:21:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep43.mx.upcmail.net (fep43.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F9C25807EF for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 00:58:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe43-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141024070212.EPBJ8410.viepfeppe43-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net>; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:02:12 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 6v2B1p01D0Hh4wo01v2BQ2; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:02:12 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:02:09 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "Team.net" References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <54496CAD.4020103@chello.nl> <48EA4C12-A622-45CD-AEC1-7C52F8063487@gmail.com> Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Apparently the sign for degrees turns into a 0 in firefox. So it should of course read 60 degrees. Kees Oudesluijs Team.net schreef op 24-10-2014 1:24: > 600? > >> On Oct 23, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Oudesluys wrote: >> >> The dwell angle on a 4-cyl. engine is usually around 600. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> >> STEPHEN CUSS schreef op 23-10-2014 21:07: >>> Does anybody know what the standard dwell angle should be for a unmodified BN >>> 1 >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Stephen >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive:http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums:http://www.team.net/forums >>> >>> Healeys@autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. >>> Gecontroleerd door AVG -www.avg.com >>> Versie: 2015.0.5315 / Virusdatabase: 4181/8438 - datum van uitgifte: 10/23/14 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lawrence.swift@gmail.com >> > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2015.0.5315 / Virusdatabase: 4189/8443 - datum van uitgifte: 10/24/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 04:22:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5292584A16 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 04:22:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C180525849E8 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 03:54:23 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=HfAdSeY4YJu4DOmKe7ITCDHbCw+0EnN8AdWF9y7JwtnL0bNV16j4rvjVWaCYlDWH; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.223.133.22] (helo=bob1.local) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhbcr-0004mQ-W6; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 05:57:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 05:57:41 -0400 From: Bob Haskell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.8.0 To: llennep@verizon.net, healeys@autox.team.net References: <16713142.2239743.1414114511253.JavaMail.root@vms170031> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Listers in Louisville KY Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Keith, The Bluegrass club has quite a few members in Louisville (http://bluegrassclub.com/). Jim Werner is on this list. Cheers, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php On 10/23/2014 09:35 PM, llennep@verizon.net wrote: > Listers in the Louisville Kentucky area. Is there someone out there who would be willing to take a look at a nonHealey at a dealership in Radcliff for me? Will give more detail when I get a volunteer. Next day or two if possible please. > > Thanks in advance to whoever you are > Keith > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 07:39:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C4A25849A2 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:39:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFA72580809 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:03:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 71781p00A5GpR5q01178AB; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:07:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:07:07 -0600 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: STEPHEN CUSS , "healeys@autox.team.net" References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <54499A31.2060206@porterscustom.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net oh geeze.. hope this doesn't turn into a 'what oil' or 'what tires' thing.. anyway it has made me think and start reading (easy with computers these days). problem is separating machinist think from mechanic think, I think. ;~) Any way here is a short explanation for all of us directly from the Internet I found this morning: When the distributor shaft is rotating, the contact-breaker points open as the heel of the moving point is pushed outwards by a lobe of the cam, and close while it is over the flat area between two lobes. If, for example, the angle of rotation between the centres of the lobes on the cam is 90 degrees, the dwell angle - the period with the arm over the flats and the points closed - may be 52 degrees; the remaining 38 degrees are taken up by the action of opening and closing. This would be a typical dwell angle for a four-cylinder engine . A dwell meter connected between the distributor or ignition coil and earth registers the dwell angle on a scale, and must remain steady at the prescribed figure while the engine is running. If the dwell angle is not the same for all cylinders, the result is rough running and poor fuel economy because the moment the spark-plug fires varies from cylinder to cylinder. The dwell angle varies according to the make of car; check it in a service manual. There are two scales on the meter, one for four-cylinder engines and one for six-cylinder engines. Eight-cylinder vehicles are taken from the four-cylinder scale and halved. End of article... I liked this one best as they use the numbers I posted yesterday that let me validate (personally) that I haven't completely lost my mind yet..:-) BTY, I don't ever disagree with Michael or Richard, Kees sometimes.. dp _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 08:09:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4C625849D7 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:09:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096FA2580809 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:13:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 71HD1p00l5GpR5q011HENt; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:17:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:17:12 -0600 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: STEPHEN CUSS , "healeys@autox.team.net" References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <54499A31.2060206@porterscustom.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Damn... I am losing it.. so, now the 38 degree thing is (in typical British fashion-opposite) the degrees that the points are open. Finally, if anyone has an easy way to determine the difference between a standard or high lift cam visually I'm all ears. Would also like to know the reasons for fitting different cams... I'm out of reading time for the day.. dave _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 08:39:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549DF258495E for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:39:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E8A258456A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.108]) by resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 71uD1p0042LrikM011uSJA; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:54:26 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-057v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.67]) by resomta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 71uR1p00R1TddKW011uRm4; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:54:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:54:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: David Porter References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <54499A31.2060206@porterscustom.com> <544A4EFB.5020007@porterscustom.com> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Thread-Index: 9xMGam0owNvRIpQwV2/EBftIs3w5hA== s=q20140121; t=1414158866; bh=l4lFfSVMHIevrFPckUHW/n/rC/ere/YFqIfK5EuGTeQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=cDJ7Ab1OMG0qmHk3FNABV5H81cJ1IIKaNw76RV9oU71o/r7YWsDO0oJfzMD2GmkhM cYLJU95h7P4sRp15rOahj+3z586hFTx9wXAv90VbBq3DdSzZT/DeHTyi9/+aYLj50H CBxwVI3HROZa4Q6I2VBUL7X/6ZZr/0c/Ijyp9DEttCHly/S/sExJDLd6/XE1KowwEz QUS64vk1VUi3pS8FqorAQLOF1HUajYtMFXtTU1Zq4w/fsAsxeHkNPT/JRHCEMd2m3J SNU7Z2LNlNy7xYC5BHBKt3KpCWORMv9C1zF8Bqmd3WNwLY9If7jFQOUMfkRaU6QRMl we7jFV9lSY/xA== Cc: healeys , STEPHEN CUSS Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Well, the 'solution' is obvious: you just have to measure dwell at specific lift, like camshafts (usually 0.050" lift). Half kidding. Bob ----- Original Message ----- oh geeze.. hope this doesn't turn into a 'what oil' or 'what tires' thing.. anyway it has made me think and start reading (easy with computers these days). problem is separating machinist think from mechanic think, I think. ;~) Any way here is a short explanation for all of us directly from the Internet I found this morning: When the distributor shaft is rotating, the contact-breaker points open as the heel of the moving point is pushed outwards by a lobe of the cam, and close while it is over the flat area between two lobes. If, for example, the angle of rotation between the centres of the lobes on the cam is 90 degrees, the dwell angle - the period with the arm over the flats and the points closed - may be 52 degrees; the remaining 38 degrees are taken up by the action of opening and closing. This would be a typical dwell angle for a four-cylinder engine . A dwell meter connected between the distributor or ignition coil and earth registers the dwell angle on a scale, and must remain steady at the prescribed figure while the engine is running. If the dwell angle is not the same for all cylinders, the result is rough running and poor fuel economy because the moment the spark-plug fires varies from cylinder to cylinder. The dwell angle varies according to the make of car; check it in a service manual. There are two scales on the meter, one for four-cylinder engines and one for six-cylinder engines. Eight-cylinder vehicles are taken from the four-cylinder scale and halved. End of article... I liked this one best as they use the numbers I posted yesterday that let me validate (personally) that I haven't completely lost my mind yet..:-) BTY, I don't ever disagree with Michael or Richard, Kees sometimes.. dp _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 09:09:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CE82584A84 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:09:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B5B258495E for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:15:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-15v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.111]) by resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 72Jf1p0072Qkjl9012KJN5; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:19:18 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-057v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.67]) by resomta-ch2-15v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 72KJ1p0071TddKW012KJQm; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:19:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:19:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: David Porter References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <54499A31.2060206@porterscustom.com> <544A5158.5000303@porterscustom.com> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Thread-Index: Wl7Tp2im1I4dGHKUEQwcIWK/09Q0UA== s=q20140121; t=1414160358; bh=0ZJAuzaOCw1SwTL3+I6z4zZk+PvS7PJaa7Urqi45E/0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=IPDaMXTWLHbAeqNEXSpdKXJ5MX5HANmQAZhnksw3nCza0UThTawv4XFmxTj7i3vF0 6TjVhTeBOy84T78lnl2LozwVcPa02PoUPXVp+FSNJThad/7ygG9f96xodPiBXezScF Ii4XUGKdIm0dVquhJbiZKQ+xnb8uM1xGcQyao4UwwbEAy1zKiQesTqUvwepi2ugNjm KdfBQ2uTXlYBGEfpM/rzzBhKAWRcdUkgDy2/QL1jjA3f/JCM/IMNcUe3Lapk9JZzOS 1VhKvwV/qgZ2ZlCz/yzMY9E3qFLnJKiWFFME423sPaw6gDKhrzhhCh244T9wJMl0zE sovRvsPNGQtpQ== Cc: healeys , STEPHEN CUSS Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net OK, I'll bite. What does distributor dwell have to do with the lift of the cam? My understanding is dwell angle is basically optimized to provide an optimal time period to charge the primary circuit in the coil to an optimum value to produce the best spark from the secondary circuit (at least, within a fairly narrow range of engine speed). Dwell, in time duration, may be too long at slow speeds--which is why coils tend to heat up if idling for too long--and too short at high RPMs (which is one of the primary advantages of some electronic ignitions--they can keep a constant time duration throughout the range of engine speeds). What am I missing? Bob ----- Original Message ----- Damn... I am losing it.. so, now the 38 degree thing is (in typical British fashion-opposite) the degrees that the points are open. Finally, if anyone has an easy way to determine the difference between a standard or high lift cam visually I'm all ears. Would also like to know the reasons for fitting different cams... I'm out of reading time for the day.. dave _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 09:41:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1912584D4C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:41:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep49.mx.upcmail.net (fep49.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671CC2584AB8 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:11:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe49-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141024151510.POLK27787.viepfeppe49-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:15:10 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 73F91p00W0Hh4wo013F9yE; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:15:09 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:15:08 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <54499A31.2060206@porterscustom.com> <544A4EFB.5020007@porterscustom.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net It seems that there are two dwell angles for 4-cyl. cars. ca. 60 degrees and ca. 52 degrees. 60 degrees is used most on EU cars with high lift cams in the distributor (whatever that means). On the Lucas 23/25D4 (on my cars) and 43/45D4 distributors it is 60 degrees. Just as well David does not always agree with me. I do not pretend to be always right. I am only human. However there is often room for discussion and the truth can be both ways. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs David Porter schreef op 24-10-2014 15:07: > oh geeze.. hope this doesn't turn into a 'what oil' or 'what tires' > thing.. anyway it has made me think and start reading (easy with > computers these days). problem is separating machinist think from > mechanic think, I think. ;~) > Any way here is a short explanation for all of us directly from the > Internet I found this morning: > > When the distributor shaft is rotating, the contact-breaker points open > as the heel of the moving point is pushed outwards by a lobe of the cam, > and close while it is over the flat area between two lobes. > > If, for example, the angle of rotation between the centres of the lobes > on the cam is 90 degrees, the dwell angle - the period with the arm over > the flats and the points closed - may be 52 degrees; the remaining 38 > degrees are taken up by the action of opening and closing. This would be > a typical dwell angle for a four-cylinder engine > . > > A dwell meter connected between the distributor or ignition coil and > earth registers the dwell angle on a scale, and must remain steady at > the prescribed figure while the engine is running. If the dwell angle is > not the same for all cylinders, the result is rough running and poor > fuel economy because the moment the spark-plug fires varies from > cylinder to cylinder. > > The dwell angle varies according to the make of car; check it in a > service manual. There are two scales on the meter, one for four-cylinder > engines and one for six-cylinder engines. Eight-cylinder vehicles are > taken from the four-cylinder scale and halved. > > End of article... I liked this one best as they use the numbers I > posted yesterday that let me validate (personally) that I haven't > completely lost my mind yet..:-) > BTY, I don't ever disagree with Michael or Richard, Kees sometimes.. > dp > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2015.0.5315 / Virusdatabase: 4189/8444 - datum van uitgifte: 10/24/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 10:12:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC5D2584D30 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:12:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep40.mx.upcmail.net (fep40.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D7C2584A7E for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:20:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe40-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141024152348.GEJL553.viepfeppe40-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:23:48 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 73Pn1p00D0Hh4wo013Pn6u; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:23:47 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:23:46 +0200 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <54499A31.2060206@porterscustom.com> <544A5158.5000303@porterscustom.com> <1475006163.253357.1414160357917.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Could it be that the hight of the cam lift has something to do with the speed of contact breaking and thus the strength of the spark? Kees Oudesluijs Bob Spidell schreef op 24-10-2014 16:19: > OK, I'll bite. What does distributor dwell have to do with the lift of the cam? My understanding is dwell angle is basically optimized to provide an optimal time period to charge the primary circuit in the coil to an optimum value to produce the best spark from the secondary circuit (at least, within a fairly narrow range of engine speed). Dwell, in time duration, may be too long at slow speeds--which is why coils tend to heat up if idling for too long--and too short at high RPMs (which is one of the primary advantages of some electronic ignitions--they can keep a constant time duration throughout the range of engine speeds). > > What am I missing? > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Damn... I am losing it.. so, now the 38 degree thing is (in typical > British fashion-opposite) the degrees that the points are open. > Finally, if anyone has an easy way to determine the difference between > a standard or high lift cam visually I'm all ears. Would also like to > know the reasons for fitting different cams... I'm out of reading time > for the day.. > dave > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2015.0.5315 / Virusdatabase: 4189/8444 - datum van uitgifte: 10/24/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 15:40:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA64F2584562 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:40:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201B2258081C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:59:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo109 ([68.230.241.158]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141024210254.EFXM28942.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:02:54 -0400 Received: from PBR2 ([70.189.240.125]) by fed1rmimpo109 with cox id 792u1p00F2j24ku0192uFV; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:02:54 -0400 a=izfUicukdOpcIldU0IRT7A==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=rHPbbauvZJ7J-qtTtfoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=rzSo3inbiVIA:10 a=1fMe8s2OcekA:10 a=W_IIF87bW04A:10 a=tiE5eGh6zKcA:10 a=SB7hYgFupVoA:10 a=z1xt-5IF8mQA:10 a=bTvY5xu_V_0A:10 a=izfUicukdOpcIldU0IRT7A==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=jpaynepbr@cox.net From: "Jonas Payne" To: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:02:55 -0700 thread-index: Ac/vzcQSvUSKAwx4TOaHax9h4bMGbA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Windshield top Rail Needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net My plating shop has lost the top rail for my windshield. If anybody has a spare to purchase, please contact me offline jpaynepbr@cox.net Thanks, Jonas Payne PBR Consulting Services, LLC 702.882.6711 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 17:56:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8F72584A60 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:56:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com (mail-lb0-f179.google.com [209.85.217.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E84B2580771 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:01:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id l4so3308683lbv.10 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:04:58 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1fdzBoHP7UZWPCAp+RsvnnvOqNCNTQ2d/Xuv9swveBE=; b=T1yFz8B7Bv+yq0zQ3EQR3sP6hZD2J9VLFdB473NYoR2iB9jlNJs7xN4PCgi8PpipDt ik/7CDEC23PyviPKTfqNKLxxrhDvycBwBCasZWAMRe8clZ0u3bwlFBZJihgnthP3wspF 0pPXklZzhughAh9kACiw0rQs+BWrHhopEZhosn52mGURdMuBHrrh/rbf7WFvTIes1PDM NOjeRolfKrTtt7Nv/df2unxeNPtAgooBhW5qB1w3HmlJksKKXzSEghC7vu3NtzfG2qlj ywAFZH8DUxq2/Q1hyGzl9Y5AMf2Lq1zZK/7sUTqE9O0pNOTCGESut6/5e0J6xzXzC7Oo /paQ== t6mr5950446laj.88.1414191898557; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.194 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:04:58 -0700 (PDT) References: <1414091248.34785.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <54499A31.2060206@porterscustom.com> <544A5158.5000303@porterscustom.com> <1475006163.253357.1414160357917.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <544A6F02.2050901@chello.nl> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:04:58 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dwell angle for standard BN1 100/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry I mentioned the "High Lift Cam" issue with regard to Lucas distributors but is an effort to pour some oil on troubled waters let me see if I can explain. Lucas experimented a lot with various cam profiles in their contact breaker type distributors. >From what I can remember from courses many many years ago this was the sequence of events. Initially Lucas had "Symetric" distributor cams. These were designed to open and close points with the available points springs and rubbing blocks of the day up to the maximum distributor RPM without "points bounce" or significant rubbing block wear. Points bounce is the speed at which the rubbing block fails to accurately follow the cam and the timing becomes unreliable. (This issue was addressed by Lucas and other manufacturers by development of twin point distributors but that is a different subject). These points used a gap of 0.011" and a dwell of 45 degrees. I am pretty sure they were only used on pre-war vehicles. Research proved that producing an "Asymetric" distributor cam profile provided better control of the closing points and allowed higher RPM with the available points springs and rubbing blocks. These cams still used a 0.011" gap but the dwell angle was increased to 49 degrees Further development of points design produced a better type of rubbing block material which allowed stronger springs so a "High Lift" cam design could be developed which allowed larger dwell angles and distributor RPM and it is these cams that are used in all Austin Healey distributors. These use a 0.015" gap and a dwell angle of 60 degrees. Hope that helps. Michael S BN1 #174 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > Could it be that the hight of the cam lift has something to do with the > speed of contact breaking and thus the strength of the spark? > Kees Oudesluijs > > > Bob Spidell schreef op 24-10-2014 16:19: > >> OK, I'll bite. What does distributor dwell have to do with the lift of >> the cam? My understanding is dwell angle is basically optimized to provide >> an optimal time period to charge the primary circuit in the coil to an >> optimum value to produce the best spark from the secondary circuit (at >> least, within a fairly narrow range of engine speed). Dwell, in time >> duration, may be too long at slow speeds--which is why coils tend to heat >> up if idling for too long--and too short at high RPMs (which is one of the >> primary advantages of some electronic ignitions--they can keep a constant >> time duration throughout the range of engine speeds). >> >> What am I missing? >> >> Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> Damn... I am losing it.. so, now the 38 degree thing is (in typical >> British fashion-opposite) the degrees that the points are open. >> Finally, if anyone has an easy way to determine the difference between >> a standard or high lift cam visually I'm all ears. Would also like to >> know the reasons for fitting different cams... I'm out of reading time >> for the day.. >> dave >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >> options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl >> >> >> >> ----- >> Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. >> Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com >> Versie: 2015.0.5315 / Virusdatabase: 4189/8444 - datum van uitgifte: >> 10/24/14 >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 01:56:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31172584C0A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:56:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail14.tpgi.com.au (mail14.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886B2258044F for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:32:31 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1414222548; bh=V+b2pxQN5jGzyLgBaQW1fSPSyJdZTwKTey+sMBRu2y8=; h=X-TPG-Abuse:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=T0mVUXBy9kIfoGQi7ktNI53fgncFPlIdUofbbFCbmJaKBpfcD6HivJXfsRRkSPMye eMos88e9zIALqapUfT59cOgnxmuF5fnGotCMO0koweC7qQcIwlLSxI29TXLo960xos C51Sg3sZRtUaffTHTc1HpX4eUPJVaYZlfNv5rhBs= date=Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:35:48 +1100 Received: from PatrickQuinnPC (60-241-154-199.static.tpgi.com.au [60.241.154.199]) by mail14.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from p_cquinn@tpg.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s9P7Zk1v003028 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:35:48 +1100 From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" To: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:35:46 +1100 Thread-Index: Ac/wJMEoda5uxSl+TCup5wBUFB3fhw== Content-Language: en-au Subject: [Healeys] Timber in a 100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net G'day Mike Salter has very kindly sent me some words and photos of the small triangular piece of timber or wood that goes in the spare wheel recess of a 100. Thinking about it I thought I would enlarge on Mike's words to include all bits of timber in a 100. As far as I know a standard 100 has the following bits of timber. One piece directly under each sidescreen ferrel. (Four in total) One piece in each door for the inner door trim. Front of the soft top. Piece behind the dash grab handle Two pieces under each seat Piece in spare wheel recess I am sure I have missed some so would appreciate the advice of everyone who knows, plus the variations between the early BN1s through to the last BN2s. Many thanks. Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 02:57:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926BD2584D31 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 02:57:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f175.google.com (mail-pd0-f175.google.com [209.85.192.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5822584C0A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 02:12:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f175.google.com with SMTP id y13so2733762pdi.20 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:15:25 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kVGg6S8h0gBSuiFmOTaKE5AypPS7eegI3RbxDBEMCOw=; b=EksO4CJ8ayeScxhAZfu6q29EV78KYo0dSOKN+UdByofsMu+2CExsXjiph20TWpdjrU wu/51vWabbVkmUo3PHTWd7js1uwQgl63On/hLR5z9UOHIedE4GgJEkxfrGKYkDmt4mrb anpk43/7Qn7nZWBmUJfQzQBc930sgMZ0ak42PjnmL6ZZwae2wu9Bxykuy3wXGW06uUQL qvwlvL7cU4hiumrTBc+QSMHEf5s5pouuXAZ0OAptFkU6gqCqs9rrxnfc3iZulVD8g6IC eMgeSlS+tpDMQe9lFxlTlMW8YpV/M0fHoTtkCfiTfNUEEiC0/R99TR+W5X3CAM7CMoPd ElQg== Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.226.42 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:15:24 -0700 (PDT) References: <00d401cff026$4bbfd3c0$e33f7b40$@tpg.com.au> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:15:24 +0100 From: John Harper To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" Cc: Forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] Timber in a 100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Patrick Spacer under bottom end of boot prop unit Regards On 25 October 2014 08:35, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: > G'day > > > > Mike Salter has very kindly sent me some words and photos of the small > triangular piece of timber or wood that goes in the spare wheel recess of a > 100. > > > > Thinking about it I thought I would enlarge on Mike's words to include all > bits of timber in a 100. > > > > As far as I know a standard 100 has the following bits of timber. > > > > One piece directly under each sidescreen ferrel. (Four in total) > > One piece in each door for the inner door trim. > > Front of the soft top. > > Piece behind the dash grab handle > > Two pieces under each seat > > Piece in spare wheel recess > > > > I am sure I have missed some so would appreciate the advice of everyone who > knows, plus the variations between the early BN1s through to the last BN2s. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register@gmail.com > > -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 06:43:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF27125844E5 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 06:43:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFB825809A3 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 06:18:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q5so2937737wiv.0 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 05:21:44 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=T/8ZqflpltcMBHZCKHp/Svoiq9Y87j0AYr1fc1ouvOM=; b=X2mVWOAiw9oS7EFhYMHEYxDchtd8CtAJgQbbIZl/mDf6n4aTi1GEwU1UwxO5zughda pVgq4/4h/fMfF5fiaocR6YdlxnelEAO8SqruvTzFba1KjCPG1vXDS7gjBRjfyIH8fAEY PgkjjzWClxyi8P7geBTc9+wjiD0VuwtzQZKTw+5PG0o2XDxPdHBB1wGztCAF5xDuzOdn JwnGIbxmlYhBD47bRPk32i307/aikc0ipj+ueHrkKtqYtwGcxLEGJsiZS5+IUuqMP1Kj E7HYiCUkgR4zO6hCpGUQdx0vQD+SjppGc9fiKKiqjM4V3nm7bL8+FnnTmsGVhqpWwnlU mIQg== n20mr9902726wiv.59.1414239704696; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 05:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.73] (85-220-37-154.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is. [85.220.37.154]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q5sm4976778wiy.16.2014.10.25.05.21.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Oct 2014 05:21:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <00d401cff026$4bbfd3c0$e33f7b40$@tpg.com.au> From: Richard Korn Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:21:41 +0000 To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Timber in a 100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Patrick, Plywood on the kick panels and trim panels behind the seats for the BN1. BN2 used a composition board. Seat bottom frames are wood and there is a thin ply strip around the lower seat back. I have photos when Peter Svilans restored mine if you would like. The door panel is also ply through the BN2. Regards from the far north, Richard Sent from my iPad > On Oct 25, 2014, at 7:35, "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" wrote: > > G'day > > > > Mike Salter has very kindly sent me some words and photos of the small > triangular piece of timber or wood that goes in the spare wheel recess of a > 100. > > > > Thinking about it I thought I would enlarge on Mike's words to include all > bits of timber in a 100. > > > > As far as I know a standard 100 has the following bits of timber. > > > > One piece directly under each sidescreen ferrel. (Four in total) > > One piece in each door for the inner door trim. > > Front of the soft top. > > Piece behind the dash grab handle > > Two pieces under each seat > > Piece in spare wheel recess > > > > I am sure I have missed some so would appreciate the advice of everyone who > knows, plus the variations between the early BN1s through to the last BN2s. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cynicbass@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 07:58:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E185B2584B82 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:58:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f179.google.com (mail-ig0-f179.google.com [209.85.213.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0155625844E5 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id r10so486296igi.6 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 06:27:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Jdr0VmwbIBmDijhQ7EzDAPTZ8U106H24qF6GSaPVfX4=; b=sz6ioPcHKj1jR/7gzhvkBcbU3kDXxGNmIjljV9FrfeO086qB0pgYdK40IrXQECekeu WbqATdTY4wFAwhLxvo9izPLEcPOfd+qW3i7FCthTED7ELiatit6NJm/FjWw/3CwF630K V4Vrj1AeJ43upTWDmveDqP0kezt9QyPxWPs8OFP8sZTdHrFrLPnhW7iZh8Qe3R6by1f6 xJ4AINppunfIuuk8NOodDxaUVYZsjJrIs5ARUBJnW5uk93ioY2GxkZpGHFiMLdFWP/n2 Qkw9XEySEMt4dwzNoQAAUOCTM9XJ0ACqZB93TfviekJmLlgk7r8t1L5/GonK9o1mNvRn BjiQ== m130mr1208893iom.72.1414243669457; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 06:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.183.231 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 06:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:27:49 -0400 From: Michel Murphy To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Rear wing fastner question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, I'm in the process of mounting the aluminum shut pillar covers on to the door shut panel and I have a question about how the rear wing is mounted to the door shut panel. What fasteners are used? Counter sunk, round, pan/truss head? Thanks, Mike -- 63 BJ7 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 14:58:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE5225850AF for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:58:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD96B2584DB3 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:32:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141025203552.BKHM24978.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:35:52 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([68.102.54.121]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id 7Ybq1p00N2curB001Ybrlj; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:35:52 -0400 a=hmgMc0bJM0ZNGhtQs4QU8A==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=GhR_a42zn4HYE2x9MBMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_R2rRgnm3hQA:10 a=atybFIThCMQA:10 a=ZSk5jCt8a_IA:10 a=hmgMc0bJM0ZNGhtQs4QU8A==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=fmags@cox.net From: Frank Magnusson Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 15:35:51 -0500 To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Can anyone tell me the title of the episode a month or so ago that had the 3000? I missed it, and looking through the DVR re-runs I don't see any episode with that. They must have featured another car as the main feature. Thanks, Frank _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 21:31:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CB6258469D for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 21:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from filter02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8E22584A87 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 21:13:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by filter02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FE338A6A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 03:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roch.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167]) by localhost (filter02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.227]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id xF+FFLHRtIXo for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 03:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.254.45] (unknown [50.48.183.148]) by relay04.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F3D6817CDD for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 03:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 23:16:49 -0400 From: Elton Schulz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear wing fastner question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Countersunk 10-32's Elton On 10/25/2014 9:27 AM, Michel Murphy wrote: > Hello, > > I'm in the process of mounting the aluminum shut pillar covers on to the > door shut panel and I have a question about how the rear wing is mounted to > the door shut panel. What fasteners are used? Counter sunk, round, > pan/truss head? > > Thanks, > Mike > -- > 63 BJ7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eschulz@frontiernet.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 11:02:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA51258493A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:02:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout03.plus.net (avasout03.plus.net [84.93.230.244]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666AF2580470 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:41:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([91.125.42.255]) by avasout03 with smtp id 7slC1p0035WKKe301slEUx; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:45:14 +0000 a=d3mxBNSi6WYJoykh7O8aLQ==:117 a=d3mxBNSi6WYJoykh7O8aLQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=0LX5aZe9AAAA:8 a=_HsJuiQcAAAA:8 a=LtpVdIaZdW-1flOePNcA:9 a=ZFjkA0hoPeptmlqg:21 a=zFY-O8QQvi8zxh3H:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=S6FabNfkuooA:10 a=9YFEqRTczwgA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=RUFwHQ2nqjcj8tsadtkA:9 a=MECMko_ehNY3dYIP:21 a=PxEFW0RTDzsinxJl:21 a=I_-OKQY5or4F9Bty:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:45:13 -0000 Thread-Index: Ac/xPDS6+yK9aV9fRsKDswjUCVPwyw== Content-Language: en-gb Subject: [Healeys] Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I've been giving my MkII BT7 a very thorough - by my standards at least - service........... The only major issue, so far, is that both rear shocks appear to have lost quite a bit of fluid in the last +/- 3,500 miles. I had them off 3,500 miles ago; their action was poor but did greatly improve with replacing the old fluid with new. The old fluid was pretty foul and there wasn't much of it. (1) I have heard that most shock absorber "rebuilds" are unsatisfactory and presume that there are no new ones available. Any comments so far? (2) I am tempted by the idea of a telescopic conversion. Specifically from Ahead4Healeys:- http://www.ahead4healeys.co.uk/TELESCOPIC-REAR-SUSPENSION-KIT-id3779.aspx Does anyone have any experience of this product or its equivalent(s). I looked at the one from Cape International which looks similar, a little cheaper and a trifle flimsy:- http://www.cape-international.com/capeshop.php?parttypes=36 &thepart=RTC Anyone know this one? Or anyone else's? Any general comments re rear shocks? (I am based in the UK). Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 11:47:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8C625846E0 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:47:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3D92580470 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:26:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id wm4so1012867obc.37 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:30:15 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=tMvVDkO0HaLmhTFp8pV4JIbRUTaBscbs78vtta4+BSE=; b=yRLZ/saUukUTWLYEoOZhC49hqrG2s0bVbzQBbdp5KmeAkO1k4xzVLszEs4bGYjapHq NMICBWoFo4gJvOxoHVQpB6qcC4eyHqYswaPfzBlTbxuRb41+6XAzyun3UOCCASctHdyY PBCpWgLOS4o2zcv31aCqRELxEYbBkV3VlXsdk8jfSSF6pywS2Kmz1zpPnPmq2m0jb2r0 mM5mg1CrJl+2yKAxoKtNYl5P6H8Vmcl0VVXzcAuW8eg2EhH4tIQnCSDfAcXt6VdcWYfx tPZjIanOsD4s6unXCf5Rghh6hwWIABbA1Xmq2KF0RYhPghbpw+hYx6pwiHGvOtLC1b7f QI2Q== db5mr15848637oec.28.1414344614900; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:29:44 -0700 (PDT) From: I Erbs Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:29:44 -0700 To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Peter Max Corvettes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net http://jalopnik.com/infamous-vh1-corvettes-finally-getting-restored-after-r-1650284092 Infamous VH1 Corvettes Finally Getting Restored After Rotting In Garages Interesting story about historic cars Ira Erbs IT Teacher and Consultant Portland, OR Your worst day at work is better than your best day in Prison Darrin King _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 12:16:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A73D258493A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:16:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from vms173023pub.verizon.net (vms173023pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45DF25845FE for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:51:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from OwnerPC ([173.63.82.204]) by vms173023.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NE2002PSCFCEO70@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net> for healeys@autox.team.net; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:54:49 -0500 (CDT) a=WFqqzQWr+btjPvkzEs8oIw==:117 a=oJ8fMwfdtEwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=XQBEjfhHAAAA:8 a=b-h7CAC-AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=0LX5aZe9AAAA:8 a=_HsJuiQcAAAA:8 a=Dqt4yL9ZeLa6Awvx49EA:9 a=tZQuivWDJxiYIxat:21 a=E0BVcNvv40Iw-B7H:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=S6FabNfkuooA:10 a=9YFEqRTczwgA:10 a=22o6AMHC0nYA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 From: "John Sims" To: "'Simon Lachlan'" , References: <000c01cff13c$37c346b0$a749d410$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:54:47 -0400 Thread-index: AQKXHZV6QdbUEk5u9JVqLeu2kEXGqZq0UEeA Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I used World Wide auto Parts in Wisconsin for my rears. They are guaranteed not to leak. http://www.nosimport.com/ Only on a thousand miles or so before I sold my BN6 so do not know if they last HOWEVER they are highly recommended. John Sims Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 12:45 PM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion I've been giving my MkII BT7 a very thorough - by my standards at least - service........... The only major issue, so far, is that both rear shocks appear to have lost quite a bit of fluid in the last +/- 3,500 miles. I had them off 3,500 miles ago; their action was poor but did greatly improve with replacing the old fluid with new. The old fluid was pretty foul and there wasn't much of it. (1) I have heard that most shock absorber "rebuilds" are unsatisfactory and presume that there are no new ones available. Any comments so far? (2) I am tempted by the idea of a telescopic conversion. Specifically from Ahead4Healeys:- http://www.ahead4healeys.co.uk/TELESCOPIC-REAR-SUSPENSION-KIT-id3779.aspx Does anyone have any experience of this product or its equivalent(s). I looked at the one from Cape International which looks similar, a little cheaper and a trifle flimsy:- http://www.cape-international.com/capeshop.php?parttypes=36 &thepart=RTC Anyone know this one? Or anyone else's? Any general comments re rear shocks? (I am based in the UK). Thanks, Simon $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6@verizon.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 12:46:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0011F25846A6 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:46:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885AF2584615 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:29:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa09-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 7uYp1p00R5GpR5q01uYqyy; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:32:50 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:32:48 -0600 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: John Sims , 'Simon Lachlan' , healeys@autox.team.net References: <000c01cff13c$37c346b0$a749d410$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> <002401cff145$ef134a50$cd39def0$@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I'll second that recommendation. Having said that, I finally put the telescoping shocks on the rear of my 100 and really liked them.. dave On 10/26/2014 11:54 AM, John Sims wrote: > I used World Wide auto Parts in Wisconsin for my rears. They are guaranteed > not to leak. > > http://www.nosimport.com/ > > Only on a thousand miles or so before I sold my BN6 so do not know if they > last HOWEVER they are highly recommended. > > John Sims > Aberdeen, NJ > > www.healey6.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon > Lachlan > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 12:45 PM > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion > > I've been giving my MkII BT7 a very thorough - by my standards at least - > service........... > > The only major issue, so far, is that both rear shocks appear to have lost > quite a bit of fluid in the last +/- 3,500 miles. I had them off 3,500 miles > ago; their action was poor but did greatly improve with replacing the old > fluid with new. The old fluid was pretty foul and there wasn't much of it. > > (1) I have heard that most shock absorber "rebuilds" are unsatisfactory > and presume that there are no new ones available. Any comments so far? > > (2) I am tempted by the idea of a telescopic conversion. Specifically > from Ahead4Healeys:- > > http://www.ahead4healeys.co.uk/TELESCOPIC-REAR-SUSPENSION-KIT-id3779.aspx > > Does anyone have any experience of this product or its equivalent(s). I > looked at the one from Cape International which looks similar, a little > cheaper and a trifle flimsy:- > > http://www.cape-international.com/capeshop.php?parttypes=36 > > &thepart=RTC > > Anyone know this one? Or anyone else's? > > Any general comments re rear shocks? > > (I am based in the UK). > > Thanks, > > Simon > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye@porterscustom.com > > > -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 13:01:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F3F2584B76 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:01:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm14-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm14-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B05258469D for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:34:50 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1414348691; bh=zJ5RhjUpZElg6VUVbZ7ZMVpVfAc/vLo34RFwCZU0Htw=; h=From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=KQ5Fs6K1CRWJqfNbVkk79B8IF9RAwgSBbWMK6dBG/tn44IsXc0TyPJo5xwqMJ46j1DkMEBgUom2ZPFgE8YO6AkNPGQi4adWsKGbjyfz9mjfBrab6oPZfxQlf9QydAEW00Pq5Nee27fCgdsWxMt0+DFx57rvyHpijW/Uu/a/VuDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; b=c/Xt69SUGbjBPw+Ouo4eFPhcawK4dNOMLrHDy+JehFmMJEgHp6FaSIzYZSt25P9RzguVjLFSg5HG3IhnzX9l601YhkRg7wd/YJ+0nEaD5g2HGhYLeTaqogqOgKzM0Kb5U9NKmsaEJu7VP6ICXFl0dMEowj78uls8yl/QveKYYE8=; Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2014 18:38:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.43] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2014 18:38:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2014 18:38:11 -0000 nLHG091hs7YNJJl_zBHdUqymFgY6SdTESJ4X1PcTaSpxgMUJ8Pg6k20FMcYB Yr2dzfXXgPYrD9RvWGTXEfB_Hbre6eyzGHKR_0YgJ7kSo.OfG7ARAzTQ5wU9 IOo_y.X4EGHba10gshJ9yHBLbWyRl805mtSBD95pZVsuCK90mqkHoLTJt4BF Iw88xlYrNod93vvsicdh0RmfPQdzxJqNLneIuMQtDiQtnmWhKD6T_bNtRG7d qWlarfzHWuZgaeJW6KIeAQyn6MhL36Bj7GPT0xj86o6nSMAMlvXHmDaiGe4J U5kLr36Iq2cxwkE8OI7CdjutHMHguBQdIYsxUhU04QSRfX0yNiLxdO7yyMOv siPEBHEFbLZOxxm9fFFR2v_KKaVMAat7UCyCF.BOU0qqbt4OwC42Y3gG4Sr5 0mae5UUP1rAGLy3KW8O9nz_0AL5.CthmabxYqhdtTeANVPyixo1XT4E.1_3X VnVCMEpDjQRinViGw64UUSHcyWVl.qNJnALccNUiNLQZv_rOE1r1Yp0LQKuN gB3aTKqMrX7DTlMJ1aRwLcg1BRs8cVrBycFBM2w7q2ssnA25cgoeNj62S_pu goRtrmbDVMjKy From: Mark Goodman Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:38:10 -0500 To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] Shock conversion kits Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I am very pleased with the kit I purchased from Udo Putzke . It is very well constructed and he is constantly improving it. It is very well thought out and has given me over 7 years of great driving. Mark Goodman 66 BJ8 35503 www.austinhealeyessence.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 13:02:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E04A258479C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:02:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-01.shaw.ca (smtp-out-01.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5BA25806BC for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:43:28 -0600 (MDT) cv=BkBxTXsSVzyY7C2joSQK+JNK4mJr1It1Skr7Xe8+Jh8= c=1 sm=1 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=iUWmsG0DX2RjlFjwlKILEA==:17 a=l6rVSQFYAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=0LX5aZe9AAAA:8 a=_HsJuiQcAAAA:8 a=SxGMD5TF9GDK8bwXzqAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=RI_nc7UnMvIA:10 a=S6FabNfkuooA:10 a=9YFEqRTczwgA:10 a=4dsr99CSl6Lh2BSU:21 a=Y2PIpPzoyBw_3NCq:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO KagsLaptop) ([24.108.29.71]) by smtp-out-01.shaw.ca with SMTP; 26 Oct 2014 12:46:48 -0600 From: "Earl Kagna" To: "Simon Lachlan" References: <000c01cff13c$37c346b0$a749d410$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:46:42 -0700 Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Simon: I agree with John re: World Wide for rebuilding the original shocks - many people on this side of the pond have had great success with them. I have to think that there would be someone competent in the UK at rebuilding these shocks. There is nothing wrong with the original lever arm shocks on these cars if they are in good condition (along with the rest of the chassis suspension components.) Having said that, there is another option using specifically designed Bilstein shocks for the big Healey: http://www.putzkes-fahrspass.com/eng/kits.html Udo is a long time big Healey owner and has a background as a suspension engineer - his kit is well designed. I installed one (both front and rear) on my recently completed BJ8 (phase II) and am quite pleased with the ride quality of the car. I know several Healey owners that have installed these Bilstein kits in big Healey's over the years - everyone that I know of that has done so has been pleased with car afterwards. I believe that it would be worth your while to investigate this conversion kit. I'm not sure of the advisability of doing only the rear - someone more qualified than I would have to comment on that. You don't want to risk the potential of unsafe handling! Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb -----Original Message----- From: Simon Lachlan Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:45 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion I've been giving my MkII BT7 a very thorough - by my standards at least - service........... The only major issue, so far, is that both rear shocks appear to have lost quite a bit of fluid in the last +/- 3,500 miles. I had them off 3,500 miles ago; their action was poor but did greatly improve with replacing the old fluid with new. The old fluid was pretty foul and there wasn't much of it. (1) I have heard that most shock absorber "rebuilds" are unsatisfactory and presume that there are no new ones available. Any comments so far? (2) I am tempted by the idea of a telescopic conversion. Specifically from Ahead4Healeys:- http://www.ahead4healeys.co.uk/TELESCOPIC-REAR-SUSPENSION-KIT-id3779.aspx Does anyone have any experience of this product or its equivalent(s). I looked at the one from Cape International which looks similar, a little cheaper and a trifle flimsy:- http://www.cape-international.com/capeshop.php?parttypes=36 &thepart=RTC Anyone know this one? Or anyone else's? Any general comments re rear shocks? (I am based in the UK). Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 13:31:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C9F2584615 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:31:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mailout09.t-online.de (mailout09.t-online.de [194.25.134.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A6025806BC for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fwd02.aul.t-online.de (fwd02.aul.t-online.de [172.20.26.148]) by mailout09.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id EEE6527A87E for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:09:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (VriopMZ6rh7GuZhitoLMmPOoMS-Aa0ppIcAAQPtPC71lbPddC5-OUn7NzMJ5pxxQl5@[172.20.102.129]) by fwd02.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1XiTBX-0SW8TQ0; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:09:03 +0100 Received: from 93.214.155.118:38025 by cmpweb17.aul.t-online.de with HTTP/1.1 (Lisa V2-8-8-0.10974 on API V3-17-2-0) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:09:03 +0100 To: "Healeys, Forum" From: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" Subject: [Healeys] Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 16:43:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70C2258466C for ; 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26 Oct 2014 23:05:12 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.106] by tm16.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2014 23:05:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1043.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2014 23:05:12 -0000 tdz.HNVH7.t4qx3uRj5udVNysrt1fTMvIn7rDxTBc0LYZZzx5ag2AC0jsFp4yDzVG6pH8HlhFP3A NciahRi3XyVmLcVx9z2UYqd5MUCL1lW1MKVB2ezddCEGmjFaCsK0L3SdG4PLpAe1BqFqrGPdS46c .bsxwpc_HG1ZJftq1zPgM.bjH58ifGv0BETAePNNeeqm0whTcQH4GnvP0aunerIH.oCWaNbV9dce eJxp4Cpxpfko4TNfCHPHcuGr0VIlTlnqiICN9kFXHGCVOMDGxakziiBOHCV7EovkLcnFvzKJm92y k.rMHxqHqWuB26N47oBO1zx09cFjylc0P7YDhGRJowzD2XaXJtv7ooTm3o_9C59wnKMRhCKx1VB6 vCny6b2bQ4kzYb7rwh5N1qKFyZQsItrv.l4kp2IGCqwyx3fwFwmXP4njpYVm7ZI__JFAMPatXxwH Jxqk- Received: by 217.12.9.8; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:05:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:05:03 +0000 (UTC) From: mike brooks To: "simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk" , Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Re - Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Simon, My BN2 failed its MOT test on aB leaking rear shock just three years ago. I then replaced both rear shocks with new ones after a phone conversation with the guy at AHSpares who recommended new rather than recon. I've done several thousand miles since then with no problems. There was also a noticeable improvement in the handling after fitting the new shocks. AHSpares and Ahead4Healeys still do new and recon units. I wouldn't go for telescopics as I like to keep things original but that's a personal preference.B Hope that helps. Rgds Mike Brooks'56 BN2ScotlandB Reply to:B mike.brooks@alumni.warwick.ac.ukB _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 19:01:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3FA25849FD for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:01:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m2.mx.aol.com (omr-m2.mx.aol.com [64.12.133.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C632580331 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 18:35:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aag01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aag01.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.77]) by omr-m2.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6076A38000045; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from familyallinone (c-24-23-100-72.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [24.23.100.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aag01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id AF39738000087; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:38:49 -0400 (EDT) From: To: =?utf-8?Q?AustinHealey_List?= , =?utf-8?Q?Mike_MacLean?= Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 00:32:30 +0000 References: <1414362594.42470.YahooMailNeo@web185004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414370330; bh=WPEAWXltxGv9cciNA62w0Fo6r6ff97EKLivIN3Je4kQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GdLzTXIoM2CMqci+tF4q2vsWC7Rw0R++n+7sgbFMUgCv0uEdcQg/dlW4lAKdIg7DB CWv0RRRjE6hRdM4f1bJ1B8qhzaeQxLQ0IH6r0gV13GTongXxQXLaMSTy/ghYNrKta2 AqX/Jjq2c/EeTGLC3tjsRTtbUseoVrqOXicAfebc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e4d544d94196d52 Subject: Re: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Ebay_100-4_Windshield?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Well there was two newbie eBay bidders that dominated the 49 bids. That is all it takes for prices to spiral beyond reality. Will say that having the parts re-chromed in not inexpensive. Aloha Perry Mike wrote: I am having a hard time processing the price this windshield went for. http://tinyurl.com/mjpb8en _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 19:29:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0618F2584B57 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:29:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail15.tpgi.com.au (mail15.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EA52584982 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:07:35 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1414372249; bh=t+Uqf26lQbXKsHUu/cqDOY9KrrO3RaVviFA3TczSOTw=; h=X-TPG-Abuse:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=AwokNRQ2OqOlzaL8voPiD1loTgAnB5Fe1BGkjQ9DVdMIdPjj/IH4KPxIt7TU35FVP 5wKxdQ1YAQvWJVkc6c6fhJuuo01TVukdGxHEkgadSqUXeVJMRFD07HezsixFeQyaxV OgBrfKUS28w3hVqiGRhXpE6pZ4EwUqPLcGd4eeTA= date=Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:10:48 +1100 Received: from PatrickQuinnPC (60-241-154-199.static.tpgi.com.au [60.241.154.199]) by mail15.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from p_cquinn@tpg.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s9R1AlrX007667; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:10:48 +1100 From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" To: , "'AustinHealey List'" References: <1414362594.42470.YahooMailNeo@web185004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20141027010109.0ED422584991@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:10:46 +1100 Thread-Index: AQIZXtew40E4rQaQUc2UJ1Z+33D6ZQJTzCBtm52osxA= Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ebay 100-4 Windshield Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net G'day Perry Yes I noticed that the two main bidders were new to eBay. Certainly went for a phenomenal price! I buy and sell on eBay quite a lot and it never ceases to amaze me that some folk just have to bid early and then like to see their bid stay at the top of the list. Surely they realise that by bidding this way only increases the final price? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeyguy@aol.com Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 11:33 AM To: AustinHealey List; Mike MacLean Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ebay 100-4 Windshield Well there was two newbie eBay bidders that dominated the 49 bids. That is all it takes for prices to spiral beyond reality. Will say that having the parts re-chromed in not inexpensive. Aloha Perry Mike wrote: I am having a hard time processing the price this windshield went for. http://tinyurl.com/mjpb8en $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn@tpg.com.au _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 21:44:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3532584CC1 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:44:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from hoster902.com (hoster902.com [64.14.72.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2A42584C40 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 6775 invoked by uid 503); 27 Oct 2014 03:18:05 -0000 Received: from 71-95-207-154.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com (HELO PEECEEDELL) (steveg@71.95.207.154) by hoster902.com with ESMTPA; 27 Oct 2014 03:18:05 -0000 From: "Steve Gerow" To: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:18:09 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/xlKH/+VrFdxDdRZqcPOJKrHt0oA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Healeys] Re Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I had to extensively rebuild the Cape rear setup as the lower mounts broke on my BN6. See: http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/healey_rear_suspension I found Cape unresponsive when I had problems. IMHO the Putzke Fahrspass kit is the way to go. There are many of these on the road with no problems as far as I know. -- Steve Gerow BN6 with tube shocks _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 23:43:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9019C2584C55 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDD92584C59 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:17:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.106]) by resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 85La1p0042JGN3p015Lav1; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 05:20:34 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([98.207.131.183]) by resomta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 85LZ1p00J3xa1La015LaFf; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 05:20:34 +0000 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:20:31 -0700 From: Bob Spidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn , healeys@autox.team.net References: <00d401cff026$4bbfd3c0$e33f7b40$@tpg.com.au> s=q20140121; t=1414387234; bh=yQsKRT59FBls+x4gIt07+1mpbG4Ql2X4jDt/zTm4l0Q=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=sP5Jc0RB0RNtqkhV14vtHBIuniUWAWoUePv9y1CTMj05VIxIrbTWBWykFfGkuie3R GRqKi34QuoaDBX69N9aotQeNlhbLvTtC+Ezf+xcFBRU5RVOl5BcKEFz2UTE4OykM3I JGtYtGerwLSUsndjpulZ/SbA9/8rqDMBLv68n15kB0p61Y/NA+L/M3NEm7AOAQNCDr +au049sGlQj3SePc301eNXkloWuToUidWo/j8zSR8c/FhRib+hQZqyowX2aqCcV2+9 eJ88bnQeszYxi5q5lFSgAlBw9wlG8ENEYLu8ox0uJv/lkSAmc6XvvHQq57bABPNh4M BvZZHXuXjr77A== Subject: Re: [Healeys] Timber in a 100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Small wood spacer on the boot prop rod bottom attachment. Bob On 10/25/2014 12:35 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: > G'day > > > > Mike Salter has very kindly sent me some words and photos of the small > triangular piece of timber or wood that goes in the spare wheel recess of a > 100. > > > > Thinking about it I thought I would enlarge on Mike's words to include all > bits of timber in a 100. > > > > As far as I know a standard 100 has the following bits of timber. > > > > One piece directly under each sidescreen ferrel. (Four in total) > > One piece in each door for the inner door trim. > > Front of the soft top. > > Piece behind the dash grab handle > > Two pieces under each seat > > Piece in spare wheel recess > > > > I am sure I have missed some so would appreciate the advice of everyone who > knows, plus the variations between the early BN1s through to the last BN2s. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > _______________________________________________ > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 01:43:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0A52584B68 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 01:43:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from cosmos.net.au (vault1.cosmos.net.au [203.24.73.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86432584B68 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 01:22:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (115-64-118-17.static.tpgi.com.au [115.64.118.17]) by cosmos.net.au (8.13.8/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s9R7PSsL018036 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:25:29 +1100 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:13:24 +1100 From: Larry Varley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "healeys@autox.team.net" more information Subject: [Healeys] pointless points Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Guys, I enjoyed the discussion about dwell and the history with Lucas, I believe points are in fact history and the best small modification that can be made to any car with points is to replace them with a breaker-less system. There are a few options out there and some can be fitted to an original distributor. Keep in mind that any change in points gap alters your ignition timing, so from the time you fit new points your on a down hill slope in engine tuning as the rubbing block wears or the points arc effectively changing the gap. With a breaker-less system it becomes almost set and forget, no side load on the distributor cam will also reduce wear. The systems available with a slip on to the distributor trigger and a sensor that replaces the points base plate mean you can keep your points should it ever fail, and you can still use your original coil. Some modern technology is worth adopting for the sake of efficient engine operation, in my opinion this is one of them. Cheers Larry Varley _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 02:43:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371742584D51 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 02:43:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep42.mx.upcmail.net (fep42.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4356725806B8 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 02:15:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe42-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141027081846.DQGZ11119.viepfeppe42-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:18:46 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 88Jl1p01f0Hh4wo018Jme4; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:18:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:18:45 +0100 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <544DF094.7000104@cosmos.net.au> Subject: Re: [Healeys] pointless points Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Indeed the best solution, there is one "but"": one tends to forget to look at the distributor altogether leading to insufficient lubrication and checking of the advance weights and shaft. One step further is to fit the electronic distributor or conversion set from 123-Ignition, Stealth, Aldon Amethyst etc., on which you can set any advance curve you like using a lap top. Kees Oudesluijs NL Larry Varley schreef op 27-10-2014 8:13: > Hi Guys, I enjoyed the discussion about dwell and the history with > Lucas, I believe points are in fact history and the best small > modification that can be made to any car with points is to replace > them with a breaker-less system. There are a few options out there and > some can be fitted to an original distributor. Keep in mind that any > change in points gap alters your ignition timing, so from the time you > fit new points your on a down hill slope in engine tuning as the > rubbing block wears or the points arc effectively changing the gap. > With a breaker-less system it becomes almost set and forget, no side > load on the distributor cam will also reduce wear. The systems > available with a slip on to the distributor trigger and a sensor that > replaces the points base plate mean you can keep your points should it > ever fail, and you can still use your original coil. Some modern > technology is worth adopting for the sake of efficient engine > operation, in my opinion this is one of them. > Cheers > Larry Varley > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2015.0.5315 / Virusdatabase: 4189/8460 - datum van uitgifte: > 10/27/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 02:44:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEE32584E44 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 02:44:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f171.google.com (mail-qc0-f171.google.com [209.85.216.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2595B25806B8 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 02:20:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id m20so3312253qcx.16 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 01:23:47 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=TqBUCA3QHmbE4I6sUSD11X5lpV8jaUq5ICrfwRN39k8=; b=dnsLXmt6tD2o0I5tw6Qt3a/BoEtj/RvoEmkGvdslrni3OJUpcuMy82t3n53M+Ul4gE 4FhI7r2JoMbHf8lm+TVJ1F84bz+JW8MbWIr/awDBsOKq+Q4tQFMLzMveabpTUgaCjFz4 zFG6WUZxUonNpQIKot88Qpapfy8PC5eOt45c1FtpCg0vmys+axMvLRUfHh6skViGsVve dWL0Yls9YMs9e5OCdsnm+A+5O+RwCCWNsrpU7Je/M3lG7EW7DofPkptUb7O3g6b+EfKm Pv1sVNTX+QC+1QhKrfl12EX+9KzX7/Kt0csZd/uCL5347yc3T1QlA0amW9eglj7X2e66 9QUg== f11mr26171690qgf.30.1414398227806; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 01:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.96.72 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 01:23:47 -0700 (PDT) References: <544DF094.7000104@cosmos.net.au> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:23:47 +0000 From: Derek Job To: 100healey Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] pointless points Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I have to agree with this. After years of resistance for originality reasons I finally switched. In competition I was experiencing an engine fluffing at high speeds, almost like hitting a rev limiter. My points were gapped weekly and they were changed several times a year but I couldn't solve the problem. I went for the Powerspark magnetic system. Very simple to fit, no external parts and very reasonably priced. Only B#29.00 in the UK. It is exactly the same equipment as the Ignitor and also the Alden version, which is sold in the UK for about B#80. There has been a huge difference in top end performance with the fluffing completely eliminated. Another surprise was how much smoother it is at low revs as well. The system compensates for any problems caused by wore distributor shafts and provides consistent timing across the whole rev range. Derek On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Larry Varley wrote: > Hi Guys, I enjoyed the discussion about dwell and the history with Lucas, > I believe points are in fact history and the best small modification that > can be made to any car with points is to replace them with a breaker-less > system. There are a few options out there and some can be fitted to an > original distributor. Keep in mind that any change in points gap alters > your ignition timing, so from the time you fit new points your on a down > hill slope in engine tuning as the rubbing block wears or the points arc > effectively changing the gap. With a breaker-less system it becomes almost > set and forget, no side load on the distributor cam will also reduce wear. > The systems available with a slip on to the distributor trigger and a > sensor that replaces the points base plate mean you can keep your points > should it ever fail, and you can still use your original coil. Some modern > technology is worth adopting for the sake of efficient engine operation, in > my opinion this is one of them. > Cheers > Larry Varley > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/healeys/derek.c.job@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 07:58:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9122584C86 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:58:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f176.google.com (mail-lb0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F316625807F1 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:40:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id p9so5664693lbv.21 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 06:44:18 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vRkeJuxz2tIBluikVJ/cFCjtK3Zyh+VoTQAwovQKT+4=; b=wHNh+FXpUfe6mhqNalOWqYkmmrOQZV6Pmz4Q4RZ/ovXfDxNomTM6EFP78kv+8WR4Et soSq34z8WxFgbDsHWMdjBoGJ9JMBj4HOG7tUMgCNUIPM1lJ8RHN5rQn0gOy4t7RmLcmc uF8wGJseowChjPhubUuMVOfHek2JHiIceo/YxFmZ/dpOHhSVxCuE04rvJ02N2rfTO373 8LYSpOVkBPcjLHZFE1PxSR+5LLukpZf4o23sytmSfaLb2td1seuw02hqyh+apyWqFpnB UG4Ay0rXwEd1cEG9kvCtwdJCnJAiPOo0D26O77tiCK+B9LZHT0/S8PMKi1ky5VPZ2TD0 CfGg== aj2mr24145232lbd.70.1414417457805; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 06:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.194 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 06:44:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <1414362594.42470.YahooMailNeo@web185004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20141027010109.0ED422584991@autox.team.net> <00bb01cff182$d82f6160$888e2420$@tpg.com.au> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:44:17 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" Cc: AustinHealey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ebay 100-4 Windshield Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Complete 100 windshield assemblies are becoming very hard to find with matching parts (they are numbered sets) and having just gone through the process of trying to make non matching parts fit together half decently I can appreciate the value in having matching components. Of course the description does not state that these are matching parts!!! Michael S BN1 #174 On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day Perry > > Yes I noticed that the two main bidders were new to eBay. Certainly went > for > a phenomenal price! > > I buy and sell on eBay quite a lot and it never ceases to amaze me that > some > folk just have to bid early and then like to see their bid stay at the top > of the list. Surely they realise that by bidding this way only increases > the > final price? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Blue Mountains, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > healeyguy@aol.com > Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 11:33 AM > To: AustinHealey List; Mike MacLean > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ebay 100-4 Windshield > > Well there was two newbie eBay bidders that dominated the 49 bids. That is > all it takes for prices to spiral beyond reality. Will say that having the > parts re-chromed in not inexpensive. > > Aloha > > Perry > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike wrote: > > > > > > I am having a hard time processing the price this windshield went for. > > http://tinyurl.com/mjpb8en > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn@tpg.com.au > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 08:44:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693792585121 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:44:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EB3258074D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:19:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20141027142251.SZQN23400.mta21.charter.net@imp09>; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:22:51 -0400 Received: from mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.31]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id 8ENr1p0050h5dSU05ENrlu; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:22:51 -0400 Received: from impout002 ([68.114.189.17]) by mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.013.00 201-2473-140) with ESMTP id <20141027142251.WWQH12712.mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout002>; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:22:51 -0500 Received: from TracyPC ([71.93.229.242]) by impout002 with charter.net id 8ENq1p0035ESHBb01ENqlT; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:22:51 -0500 a=U8q8TweAVEj7rcwg9cQsgg==:117 a=U8q8TweAVEj7rcwg9cQsgg==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=VpqaAhiw42fcetrRIY0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 From: "Tracy Drummond" To: , References: <544DF094.7000104@cosmos.net.au> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:22:50 -0700 Thread-Index: AQJekAQRqE386K4TrXTfzvyTN4rQdJsmwpwg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Healeys] pointless points Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net And easy to fix in the field. Just keep a complete spare in the boot since they cannot be fixed in the field. So buy two. Cheers! -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Varley Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:13 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] pointless points Hi Guys, I enjoyed the discussion about dwell and the history with Lucas, I believe points are in fact history and the best small modification that can be made to any car with points is to replace them with a breaker-less system. There are a few options out there and some can be fitted to an original distributor. Keep in mind that any change in points gap alters your ignition timing, so from the time you fit new points your on a down hill slope in engine tuning as the rubbing block wears or the points arc effectively changing the gap. With a breaker-less system it becomes almost set and forget, no side load on the distributor cam will also reduce wear. The systems available with a slip on to the distributor trigger and a sensor that replaces the points base plate mean you can keep your points should it ever fail, and you can still use your original coil. Some modern technology is worth adopting for the sake of efficient engine operation, in my opinion this is one of them. Cheers Larry Varley $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey@charter.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 09:00:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2B82585231 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:00:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm16-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5767E258074D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:32:25 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1414420546; bh=Lvv69zy/DZfIuFBXTeN89O8f0Gfmf7eSMCtvONnUJdc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=FTqcRN1yDy9c6ZdYOX+atqAR8rLEiCDn8b4P7vc6DNv73NCWQ22GKiN0x9h3aEnGIevdcpV9kGXqS6X6/tUeGguKqOT0IeVngrJ+tsiqUEq5izY9RFGmBeMZTOEjh/OHdJB+QlSxNavgRU2x59MFU0C//4xdKCn7JitjXhosUKjkN1SEeMCPYG/mEwDst64F9ZbhUD3rXPdRApfZiyZgeFQuNVvxShT9T7OEEylbo+Vba10q5JOZuj55MLySvf6XE461H8toQViKsRZLi/sRnouIC8pBZqDEtCeqQog/kHMYv+i1PEAuoP3dAjCdbbxp0zo284SnrWEViBto5fCAoQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=ned7cO6uuyyB27AE+BTHYqx2yVVosZ/HGnKjESigwu3Qcygw6PGepw2zGA+nmD1pV/GKWW60xk2ndvx3lXzCXWbpIQLwRbHF6mKnjpgUu2ri4nSamdr6oEJ9R+nzzoloTP/BmxB/4R9I7+T2/Q5itA0AGvSgdpS0wbpufqSLgFV7MKMIDy/e2e2WYZoUBjEFRVJoxYK1aNhpuQB6Y/+oddh32wNoDpjnLyeAmnUpJSw+zssGPiN9usKIYyMZd9k7PuypE3uxblRl+nbaXiOOKqBugXXEMMpwfPPbvsn0qqaI6pUiCOW/jed3yh56fu5S4LjUyWAOqLjTIzQRW+SGxQ==; Received: from [98.138.100.113] by nm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2014 14:35:46 -0000 Received: from [98.138.86.156] by tm104.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2014 14:35:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2014 14:35:46 -0000 _8e7T_uF_Y6UNrI_yPQuoTCaFxgvTIqqPA7TaAsmJdykJHFcCbUO7QiZ_OXYLX3AqcUXmKbDCfTt Fwo9tAl1I9tKlsdxLlyS0QZ5O2d7TsqRf6JZ8vYqYl56ZPq9TXXrLrvXtE1FQKhmMFpliPF_feNv B5uCj4Tip3HEFtTcjxaq9GZMbGU.Bcb2xk9IDKfPiPRPlOyK495y6UluMCWDyDmG7f7wBhESYCxP W5CrzNiDqM5q5yf2dII4LQYGenlyb_S6LZhgH2QK5RqMxI0kFoAdNnB7JMfvwkjCzQMQWIBFxUtD 6QWOnhSCdHtdyFNR8jYuJfpNrZaLZwQv4B8ozYWfLwHmPQxJOBCvhQbvNF_7lscVmAWVGr29tRS4 RfLPci9tSqdCMY.13BWTc5LH2DjVrLX7kzh3kHImFL01Teg3fxvXVDftxZkJxcGF6gWA8hgQBNsg o2Ad7qtDa4v5oaq.O9qiThOBsc9Q5ejeoHcWLXK_e_OmG.tUSlUr4d9tQqIw1PGZqi16zuCGV_VM UeyC0g7TvXqzaV2eptgulbF.iYMpA1dh5sA-- Received: by 98.138.105.226; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:35:45 +0000 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:35:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Ron Mitchell To: Michael Salter , Patrick & Caroline Quinn References: Cc: AustinHealey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ebay 100-4 Windshield Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The price of unobtainium continues to rise. On Monday, October 27, 2014 10:02 AM, Michael Salter wrote: Complete 100 windshield assemblies are becoming very hard to find with matching parts (they are numbered sets) and having just gone through the process of trying to make non matching parts fit together half decently I can appreciate the value in having matching components. Of course the description does not state that these are matching parts!!! Michael S BN1 #174 On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day Perry > > Yes I noticed that the two main bidders were new to eBay. Certainly went > for > a phenomenal price! > > I buy and sell on eBay quite a lot and it never ceases to amaze me that > some > folk just have to bid early and then like to see their bid stay at the top > of the list. Surely they realise that by bidding this way only increases > the > final price? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Blue Mountains, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > healeyguy@aol.com > Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 11:33 AM > To: AustinHealey List; Mike MacLean > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ebay 100-4 Windshield > > Well there was two newbie eBay bidders that dominated the 49 bids. That is > all it takes for prices to spiral beyond reality.B Will say that having the > parts re-chromed in not inexpensive. > > Aloha > > Perry > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike wrote: > > > > > > I am having a hard time processing the price this windshield went for. > > http://tinyurl.com/mjpb8en > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn@tpg.com.au > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donationB $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyron@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 09:29:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC4625852A6 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:29:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f46.google.com (mail-la0-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D764258081A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:07:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id gi9so6129404lab.33 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:11:09 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/RmQmV0Hy0yFCbtQQL8vqJqvc9AszhXsYx07oqdrQ7w=; b=sBw6xy73AwQEC4nhJru0ass/NBpsmi2FeYWyoYyDwglOfmkns49+ufXSr7Ow+qb2w0 hMlPKQuNybH4PD012VtrG1wo7JsJH19Ei5BL8PL3BcL8WV/dSr175/6lu2buA1EC3KYk fvyUUZCEsWELEV5NWefgag1nu03sh5CCEdBCkYnex5oWW8EMvCjveMF5apuOWqw4hlOV dBfu2fMmWyv+mJtsBDFV9wmMPCpGO8d83R159yG5+KVb+HUgO4ElVDqdsh8L4LDhg/SW tiVQPrPaI218aNlH8oXtnnLo4+R38pucZmfpthlV2Rv58xwX8SLnbwJ09HzqiJVC+uz6 qGTQ== g2mr24385934laf.33.1414422669313; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.194 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:11:09 -0700 (PDT) References: <544DF094.7000104@cosmos.net.au> <004901cff1f1$7d530980$77f91c80$@charter.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:11:09 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] pointless points Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Do any of the recommended electronic systems require only one wire to the distributor or, conversely, is there an effective way to make the system appear to be completely original at least until the distributor cap is removed? Michael S BN1 #174 On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > And easy to fix in the field. Just keep a complete spare in the boot since > they cannot be fixed in the field. So buy two. > > Cheers! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry > Varley > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:13 AM > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] pointless points > > Hi Guys, I enjoyed the discussion about dwell and the history with Lucas, I > believe points are in fact history and the best small modification that can > be made to any car with points is to replace them with a breaker-less > system. There are a few options out there and some can be fitted to an > original distributor. Keep in mind that any change in points gap alters > your > ignition timing, so from the time you fit new points your on a down hill > slope in engine tuning as the rubbing block wears or the points arc > effectively changing the gap. With a breaker-less system it becomes almost > set and forget, no side load on the distributor cam will also reduce wear. > The systems available with a slip on to the distributor trigger and a > sensor > that replaces the points base plate mean you can keep your points should it > ever fail, and you can still use your original coil. Some modern technology > is worth adopting for the sake of efficient engine operation, in my opinion > this is one of them. > Cheers > Larry Varley > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 09:45:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87E225852D4 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:45:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fep43.mx.upcmail.net (fep43.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960D32580830 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:23:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viepfeppe43-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20141027152653.ILFN8410.viepfeppe43-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:26:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([80.56.169.13]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id 8FSs1p01c0Hh4wo01FSsgf; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:26:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:26:52 +0100 From: Oudesluys User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net References: <544DF094.7000104@cosmos.net.au> <004901cff1f1$7d530980$77f91c80$@charter.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] pointless points Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net If the usual electronic ignition e.g Petronix fails you swap the spare the spare one (only two items under the distributor cap) within minutes, without little disturbance, if at all, of the timing. No need to replace the complete distributor plus setting the timing at all. Kees Oudesluijs Tracy Drummond schreef op 27-10-2014 15:22: > And easy to fix in the field. Just keep a complete spare in the boot since > they cannot be fixed in the field. So buy two. > > Cheers! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry > Varley > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:13 AM > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] pointless points > > Hi Guys, I enjoyed the discussion about dwell and the history with Lucas, I > believe points are in fact history and the best small modification that can > be made to any car with points is to replace them with a breaker-less > system. There are a few options out there and some can be fitted to an > original distributor. Keep in mind that any change in points gap alters your > ignition timing, so from the time you fit new points your on a down hill > slope in engine tuning as the rubbing block wears or the points arc > effectively changing the gap. With a breaker-less system it becomes almost > set and forget, no side load on the distributor cam will also reduce wear. > The systems available with a slip on to the distributor trigger and a sensor > that replaces the points base plate mean you can keep your points should it > ever fail, and you can still use your original coil. Some modern technology > is worth adopting for the sake of efficient engine operation, in my opinion > this is one of them. > Cheers > Larry Varley > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2015.0.5315 / Virusdatabase: 4189/8461 - datum van uitgifte: 10/27/14 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 10:14:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662322585360 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D967E25846FA for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:59:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.226]) by resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 8G2H1p0044tLnxL01G2Tjn; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:02:27 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-057v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.67]) by resomta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 8G2T1p00H1TddKW01G2TwQ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:02:27 +0000 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:02:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: Oudesluys References: <544DF094.7000104@cosmos.net.au> <004901cff1f1$7d530980$77f91c80$@charter.net> <544E643C.6080609@chello.nl> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: pointless points Thread-Index: OnhhAZbdOZDGWEeT1mYS+QStVnQ+5A== s=q20140121; t=1414425747; bh=ocnIBwxq6BmO5mrCiXeZsZDpIXPgYoCQ77ErrrgQpII=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=NpE25h0a0YfrYaajqc1xa/cUhBsG0kxQsv740TIR5gTzjHKiJcpgFEVh42ku8LIuE fKtN3ReBsGnQ0y8jDCl2p+tzpazQSGuqmrIfd53Kw3YFcy9+WOvLdAZQ2vADZUggFe oCdOaoalDMVSQ9luKunNLV25VRA5FFXKWCIDevzoazv9HiwmVWXyZUdb04Z339uDg/ rwamsaoBf5JHUyzTog375zmZrPJ2t8yaYTxRfgASlk62gYHcrBnyoobCLxoc/qSbee IA+to2zgSJCLsl/uxBYUgyu7Eybq9MaNZ7jri+OSNLvBiBI7iGB0J+IQQZXU4Co2PT burlQHwZipByA== Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] pointless points Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I did my setup with spade lugs so the swap would be even easier. Unfortunately, I have an older (10+ years) Pertronix installed and the newer replacement I bought recently has the sensor mounted in a slightly different location, which will require timing adjustment. Bob ----- Original Message ----- If the usual electronic ignition e.g Petronix fails you swap the spare the spare one (only two items under the distributor cap) within minutes, without little disturbance, if at all, of the timing. No need to replace the complete distributor plus setting the timing at all. Kees Oudesluijs Tracy Drummond schreef op 27-10-2014 15:22: > And easy to fix in the field. Just keep a complete spare in the boot since > they cannot be fixed in the field. So buy two. > > Cheers! _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 21:33:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0361525857E2 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.156]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625312580993 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:08:18 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1414465899; bh=pQ/K1aYbhdkbwoInO8dw0sL6G9wjOMrZPk6Mo5EPRFs=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=eNJs+Mtce9+XpctgjztT67jd7pjiLWuVl3bF8GMkwZvNu0j/YM24yZMFDB7PTel0/Gbdb+QhmWRFvemOCOrhahk2WdKN/GKg1dZzxcXM8AaZdgTXTzC4HIWl1mGqXutRLv3BqOFOFu+t59dkaB2HqRnx3OwQJKE4QmBHYCPWEeg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=bDjbhAFz/Zxic5Cn//EhQqKtZCeWqcgzRDeNvwZtsWUImiqZRn2rhiA8/bQehYnXcNGTCadhByF+sUu5MbICfq6OR2teV8B5/aXusVp/SAys3/jqDgZQqY+FHdSWZEeOc+6lSSVlwRKAhVGvf+jZp9h87T0YiwGbVz+7vaKOTE8=; Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2014 03:11:39 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.47] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2014 03:11:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2014 03:11:39 -0000 zaiuXebTjaFqK7o4bL29u4FdBSmVZhivqNeCu0H2ywGDpxhZPQeU2WUSNwiB I4v1E9xdtlPMx1XHFn9RY5sT__pNWpuPxMPPAdPRN0Kw9Mpybh1iFjkjuYx3 gnZ5VcWKEM6eBtZsNP3xppaUqjRFnXwak2MYwX2JxoEgNv5ikjFZLdUsBUeU jQy2VYdii3N1JPq1OO.WXz854rKDjG5nqzuWFl5uGBUP.J_TDxq4S.PyfXmM o5fyqPa2VHTPlcfU_zc08q77XllxXbl.f9HYSq1CcemTgCUdGthIllGPXXnV Ou1GIM5VokRxv_iosSsVFQq0y73BcgyOmhh5IOw1.J834b07KaYkljXpphfT _FbY8etSzCDnzaf32ou5bA2lRs3XnRHFWA6l2kTYN.HdhfRHsaBFnUbk3Q4x MmxJGuGO62yZskj45IFi0Vm8JtDlugj73KPzfv.mky6J.zOs5slaIhrSCDQG prp2B5z689_Lf5q5tyShyP33ePb7lhgtdAcV4paMPjYc_xOq0hiMECsk.pjU CZHsmaPZ93qzaRH5ZzIkyIIbHnpwheaB_9kAJcGV4S3GnB87jj2w4w9svFel KRxV8CsN4yHZI7izM49jxzKUe4W1f5SMlp.er73oT5Coioabvb.jpWkCZko7 7OuuzSUKmaXed.rzbHYo3gax0haAQXrOuNY8HZx74X7TqGGJxUV73REYaMHB 65jrTJ2qxVXnK0K2qkhQ- References: <544DF094.7000104@cosmos.net.au> <004901cff1f1$7d530980$77f91c80$@charter.net> From: David Nock British Car Specialists Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:11:36 -0700 To: Michael Salter Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] pointless points Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Shrink wrap David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Please feel free to view an interview with the Nock's in 2009 Enjoy www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOTTRYkbQzs . . Sent from my iPad > On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:11 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > > Do any of the recommended electronic systems require only one wire to the > distributor or, conversely, is there an effective way to make the system > appear to be completely original at least until the distributor cap is > removed? > > Michael S > BN1 #174 > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Tracy Drummond > wrote: > >> And easy to fix in the field. Just keep a complete spare in the boot since >> they cannot be fixed in the field. So buy two. >> >> Cheers! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry >> Varley >> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:13 AM >> To: healeys@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Healeys] pointless points >> >> Hi Guys, I enjoyed the discussion about dwell and the history with Lucas, I >> believe points are in fact history and the best small modification that can >> be made to any car with points is to replace them with a breaker-less >> system. There are a few options out there and some can be fitted to an >> original distributor. Keep in mind that any change in points gap alters >> your >> ignition timing, so from the time you fit new points your on a down hill >> slope in engine tuning as the rubbing block wears or the points arc >> effectively changing the gap. With a breaker-less system it becomes almost >> set and forget, no side load on the distributor cam will also reduce wear. >> The systems available with a slip on to the distributor trigger and a >> sensor >> that replaces the points base plate mean you can keep your points should it >> ever fail, and you can still use your original coil. Some modern technology >> is worth adopting for the sake of efficient engine operation, in my opinion >> this is one of them. >> Cheers >> Larry Varley >> $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey@charter.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 03:49:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C7A2580821 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 03:49:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S36.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s36.hotmail.com [65.55.111.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B6F258076E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 03:22:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU436-SMTP207 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S36.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 28 Oct 2014 02:25:50 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.9.131030 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:25:43 +1100 From: J Armour To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Chasing Classic Cars 100/6 FILETIME=[29AD0BA0:01CFF291] Subject: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars 100/6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Recently someone asked the name of the above episode featuring a 100/6. Believe it or not I have just watched it in Australia. The show was ' WHEELS AND KEELS' Healey did not sell. Bidding stopped at $50000. Wayne said, it was the best early model 3000 he had seen! Joe _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 07:49:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCACF2585A22 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:49:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com (mail-lb0-f179.google.com [209.85.217.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17ED625807AC for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:25:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id w7so585153lbi.24 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 06:28:21 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mKonjhoXPLhdFhrqvD9k4JRKdakOF1pJvL1B9P2hx6s=; b=UA6Ol6yEtZmf9D8hZ/162XdlY2CdyGyoClv4/pnmF4ny8fCnCC0syvFc8VSab81j5U pXB/5dEVXH+YZOKwWXl3j3ig6QbbKtcx03sILcD2Om5mRX39pJTAvsbSpLlclAYbD+qh uOJRH8x92YN2WqK2dxX4IKK3nJAOnXxVtvq8FrXByVg5pQEFNWIbWk2v76rF73OoNwF7 ZFSkyuNKWs0HUtCm8p8KguXObfh4kV6cRQJrwNL3Vxx5Wh2QFzcfl/CW75djNtUEOK6D scLmZQk5JapVMr+boULwTiZ7W51vTkq/T8xQZ4SgnmxAqexlS4hRnCDFQWB8Imcu/kJx FdzQ== g2mr4023721laf.33.1414502901475; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 06:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.194 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 06:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:28:21 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: [Healeys] 100 parts book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I would like to buy a reprint of the factory 100 parts book. Does anyone know where one can be purchased.. hard copy not digital.. Many thanks, Michael S BN1 #174 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 08:49:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D949C2585ADC for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:49:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD743258475B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:26:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170031pub.verizon.net ([192.168.1.60]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTP id <0NE5006VYS8JXFA0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for healeys@autox.team.net; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:29:08 -0500 (CDT) a=fN6Osi8fgP70p3sIWdBKCg==:117 a=qUl5J7lzbMEA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=P4LDppM3RZAVdX_jUEUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Usj1y3RjHwoA:10 a=PDcjHf2NNUcA:10 a=TOi0vZ9m74IA:10 a=gXgBVY-g1X0A:10 Received: from 100.4.77.131 ([100.4.77.131]) by vms170031 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:29:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:29:07 -0500 (CDT) From: llennep@verizon.net To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Headlight rim needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Listers, I am in need of a left side (driver) headlight rim for my 1960 BN7. It must be in excellent condition, no rechroming necessary. Ready to mount. If you have such a thing please send me photos and your asking price with shipping to 23602. Thanks Keith llennep@verizon.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 12:17:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80322258475B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout03.plus.net (avasout03.plus.net [84.93.230.244]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086552580414 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:49:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([31.185.181.25]) by avasout03 with smtp id 8hst1p0030ZGwcn01hsufe; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:52:55 +0000 a=HTYoSNmlim28Ig8Phnz+LA==:117 a=HTYoSNmlim28Ig8Phnz+LA==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=qgDf_SsMuRYtbTzu8x0A:9 a=tsAvozd5QObN2uzQ:21 a=tA5EldR0xOEnjK3L:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=LDYuhkqmc12EItkDE5EA:9 a=_jnJLMGPw4a_19T1:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: "'Healeys'" References: <1905746942.1083179.1414364703438.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11137.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:52:53 -0000 Thread-Index: Ac/xcUxBT1vM+WQwQtq92ivS1F08JgBYvqiQ Content-Language: en-gb Subject: [Healeys] : Re - Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion AND "Rubber - engine mounting (rear). AND hose as a vacuum tool extractor. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net 1) Thanks for all the advice and helpful suggestions. Only one reply from this side of the water so remain unsure as to who/where is best place for rebuilds. I should have mentioned that I have a Koni telescopic kit on the front already. (On the car when I bought it. May be the so-called bKoni-Cloneb. Not sure.) Anyhow, it has been suggested that telescopic at the rear might be a good idea bearing in mind the front setup. 2) Now, I was on the phone ordering the telescopic and the 4 rubbers for the Gearbox Stabilizer. The chap said that he had the bits and did I want what he referred to as the bOverdrive bufferb? In my parts book, itbs on page A.18, part number 1A9209...plus bracket, plate, nuts, bolts etc. Ibd never heard of this thing. He says that most people just find the backing plate and wonder what itbs for as therebs no trace of the rubber buffer, it having fallen off decades ago. Can anyone tell me precisely where this thing is, how itbs accessed and what it does? Seems to me that if itbs underneath, then it canbt buff up against anything. AND, if it did buff up against something, how can one get at it?? 3) I was hoovering out my front wheel arch just now with a short length of garden hose taped into a powerful vacuum cleanerbs pipe/hose. (Quite effective as long as you keep it clear of leaves and bigger pebbles). Anyhow, I decided to stuff said hose down the black holes in the engine compartment......the ones where all the spanners go. Anyhow, out came a B Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEFD25849BD for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:48:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DA625807BE for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id at20so1348050iec.20 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:41:54 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:mime-version:to:from:subject:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type; bh=NmTA1jICiivUramsPhCNhR3oT+1OxgVyXgnaU/uIKOA=; b=lpnb54TDIqSj/CVlwrMKiX+b7kPwXcSv2IkCScvcVden9f8K9WO3oVHRKew1Pg6BHX hetWcV0qUJny5ZYE6r5nFhNXZNlg5PjGDjIuOLG5hhi0b/YXcyeG28l4P7lr56lpT4GB jwfupZ/XR6sbBMHwY7xxh21bgY5YsYrVnn55mDKKE0ggkzEc+UGNNx/WTJlv06d6K3ua wawwrEqsQrTltMd7P3xy5El38aEpHJCSG59lJSazpxVpUBreInc+KzvBZV6Vn+e3Whey fFbVzAewpUT5UYAMBNYdkGWb/GoVqSC7V3y0yAqPmOLtGe8BPLzyHDqdK0QG1u1azfTw Omug== i3mr32332492igt.25.1414521714470; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (CPE0c473dd54031-CM0c473dd54030.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com. [99.247.52.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p5sm1222584iga.5.2014.10.28.11.41.52 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:41:53 -0700 (PDT) To: David Porter , "Healeys@autox.team.net" From: Michael Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:41:18 -0400 References: <544FA4F9.5060407@porterscustom.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 parts book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Yes I understand that Dave, I have 2 originals but want to avoid damaging them through everyday use!! Michael S BZN1 #174 -----Original Message----- From: "David Porter" Sent: b10/b28/b2014 10:15 AM To: "Michael Salter" Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 parts book you know, I assume, that it's a pretty worthless reference for pictures.. On 10/28/2014 7:28 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > I would like to buy a reprint of the factory 100 parts book. > Does anyone know where one can be purchased.. hard copy not digital.. > > Many thanks, > Michael S > BN1 #174 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye@porterscustom.com > > > -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 15:33:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472F7258457E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f176.google.com (mail-qc0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7A82580BA6 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:33:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id x3so1374170qcv.21 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:36:36 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qyC726i6yWFOsugl2db/vzkQyBWPYeDM4VQYg91N8l0=; b=PATxfFtB2B5dhzPPxCzlEirAtFKkjXY7yFOv1XRjXz1G5YVg9PYO+aVLn6jdULLH8I 6Ipdj2eOB9keQk5ij2/Ub5Wz4kuUEqsoWPPlUQuaDeU63if3uKToZNO+iUPsE2SMhROc e96jp3Sr9VrnX3+K9klIUHBsxQDoVQBEeMMecyFOp/Fny1NIdHjOVVpcitDjsbdIR2qs JGYulExjLCngYPVMD6V8Ej+3Pb/RVTbIGYx+RBwXyLd0ikyyUzNBwxpbRmH1OnAfUGj8 5JBzVv2KHXT5dA3Ew2UbEuMeQT7NRxbdsgoh6vFnrd1PuMes8lyxrE09PHL7qhApiruA GtEg== n38mr9000079qga.1.1414532196052; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.80.133 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:36:36 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:36:36 -1000 From: Kimo Briske To: Michael Salter , Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 parts book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I have a pristine condition AH100 service manual for BN1 part # AKD4851, Green cover workshop manual. Do you need one ? Aloha, Jim On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > I would like to buy a reprint of the factory 100 parts book. > Does anyone know where one can be purchased.. hard copy not digital.. > > Many thanks, > Michael S > BN1 #174 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/kimobriske@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 16:18:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CE12584617 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 16:18:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3122584540 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 16:16:15 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=aj8gA5wyuu0G30gTs5KkNXTqDV++SmXScKPVi2/kaVHDeOptm24bchn84BMxTRcC; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.223.133.22] (helo=bob1.local) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1XjF6s-0002Q2-Fk; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:19:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:19:25 -0400 From: Bob Haskell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.8.0 To: Michael , "Healeys@autox.team.net" References: <544FA4F9.5060407@porterscustom.com> <544fe371.4508320a.6011.4f80@mx.google.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 parts book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Michael, I'll swap my photocopy for one of your originals :) I'll see if I can figure out who I got it from. Nice, lay flat, binding. Cheers, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php On 10/28/2014 02:41 PM, Michael wrote: > Yes I understand that Dave, I have 2 originals but want to avoid damaging them > through everyday use!! > Michael S > BZN1 #174 > > -----Original Message----- > From: "David Porter" > Sent: b10/b28/b2014 10:15 AM > To: "Michael Salter" > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 parts book > > you know, I assume, that it's a pretty worthless reference for pictures.. > On 10/28/2014 7:28 AM, Michael Salter wrote: >> I would like to buy a reprint of the factory 100 parts book. >> Does anyone know where one can be purchased.. hard copy not digital.. >> >> Many thanks, >> Michael S >> BN1 #174 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye@porterscustom.com >> >> >> > > -- > Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM > 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 19:59:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AAB25809D6 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:59:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F70258009C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:54:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id kq14so2050138pab.24 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2k7M6SwyeOL08cekK0zVThDrsdVRiqwY/VN+iBGu04U=; b=SEJrfNhtNJAyAkIoRyjDLwJYfFMQMV7ber0Vp+0TyiIfRrQUjALLQRm4KhqrAGL1w+ +XgscNZbSmLc+3SfTXNRH1H6urOgXKEHjNyUb2uTmMHkayoOUZXStpkL5wTwcEAhdpHD 21racoeaADOYzWJQNompZY3p6+Kg6yFJbu850nmM6RHnFXf+KA3cjYt5C5xv1ib49Xpq AUR3GHa/PXWFUdNFwvNVpsBAOgfRP8zRmaqxbxTrnWKJ7BNMN2ldhK/SLsYiNLMUy4wZ MAqeTsiJtJ7VkeF7agnxzdhHb+sr22TPVWvhDRULMlN1qdzDedK8yE2KUlfqM107SuH0 wE6A== zm2mr7299919pac.33.1414547880492; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.46.68 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:58:00 +0800 From: Alan Seigrist To: Michael Salter Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 parts book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Michael b I have a photo copy which I'm happy to lend to you let me know if you want it. Cheers, Alan On Tuesday, October 28, 2014, Michael Salter wrote: > I would like to buy a reprint of the factory 100 parts book. > Does anyone know where one can be purchased.. hard copy not digital.. > > Many thanks, > Michael S > BN1 #174 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 20:19:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AA22584586 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com (mail-la0-f52.google.com [209.85.215.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B44258009C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:19:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id hz20so1695531lab.25 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:22:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=hEArCY8Z0pJAMlcapIjwr4wycwBMQd+z2heC1CpnCps=; b=K9U7R3qfvd6nGKTNpqnGXdBfqDGAumtxp7LN9G7Nismc2RGc2vyXwknU5SDv0IgMRY Fp6iOcXFhiVT15634CJZsWh2jRm9E9utkSmyEqCHjJSaPdA978MSIINeMStIyV1w8reu pfiu1wEPOxXWifKOl7NMcfQVrMF1Gdk5cyR/f9F3sXRHKnWm2i1PitAGqz5lgp5oKBYs 0Rrj9WdNXskbpjwy/6vq6l+Db4B66HkG7iRz+0FldfXqpIjrAPP5ZbDFW0o+0ZfnRt1N 9DaQ8WBmrLjL5zV9bQWUwEZhr5sM+13Uza9YWb6s1qUzR98skhIspedLtHLSyzAwroJa M0GA== m9mr8162009laa.32.1414549350811; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.234.194 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:22:30 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:22:30 -0400 From: Michael Salter To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 parts book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all who responded with parts book offers.. Doug has very kindly offered to send me a copy. Love this list...you guys are GREAT!! Michael S BN1 #174 On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > I would like to buy a reprint of the factory 100 parts book. > Does anyone know where one can be purchased.. hard copy not digital.. > > Many thanks, > Michael S > BN1 #174 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 23:49:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93452584630 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dleong.org (mail.dleong.org [162.211.28.60]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C725C25845C3 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:48:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DLEONG-EXCH.dleong.pro (162.211.28.60) by DLEONG-EXCH.dleong.pro (162.211.28.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.620.29; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:51:23 -0700 Received: from DLEONG-EXCH.dleong.pro ([162.211.28.60]) by DLEONG-EXCH.dleong.pro ([162.211.28.60]) with mapi id 15.00.0620.020; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:51:23 -0700 From: David Leong To: "Healey List (healeys@autox.team.net)" Thread-Topic: Whose Healey was used for this? Thread-Index: Ac/zPFqSFvUDhLW1QUK8xGVrkLbWew== Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 05:51:22 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [50.250.182.202] Subject: [Healeys] Whose Healey was used for this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liqoMjRT81A&list=UUCS1ZL9SgNsS4gvI1i0ydiA Dave _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 04:05:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA212580B97 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 04:05:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1863258068A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 04:04:30 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RjVx2JF+DHmILbNJmZWTILqA0TVWrJm6pQXdPu/TP4Lt6hUNEYrnB6SodT6Vrd+r; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.223.133.22] (helo=bob1.local) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1XjQAS-0005fu-Ix; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:07:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:07:52 -0400 From: Bob Haskell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.8.0 To: David Leong , "Healey List (healeys@autox.team.net)" References: <5fb922580b854d389cf0c25486545df4@DLEONG-EXCH.dleong.pro> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Whose Healey was used for this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Shame, it had a V8. Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php On 10/29/2014 01:51 AM, David Leong wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liqoMjRT81A&list=UUCS1ZL9SgNsS4gvI1i0ydiA > > > Dave _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 06:30:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E662725846C4 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta54.windstream.net (pacmmta54-web.windstream.net [162.39.147.244]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7708C2580918 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:29:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pamxwww05-z01 ([10.135.134.178]) by pacmmta54.windstream.net with pacmmta54 id 90Yp1p00g3r6V7N010YpLf; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:32:49 -0400 a=xTESJRT3T+Nu4wvTN7bVJg==:117 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=PvPPwIXq5YkA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=5Up8faWwAAAA:8 a=3H_K-z2yAAAA:8 a=2nOvNI6EAAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=6v2PeqXnjHGMj3qxIv4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=gxjyDbgCVzYA:10 a=voZrjb6_8qcA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 8:32:49 -0400 From: Tom Felts To: Bob Haskell , David Leong , "Healey List (healeys@autox.team.net)" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Healeys] Whose Healey was used for this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Didn't sound like a V8 to me---sounded like a Healey. ---- Bob Haskell wrote: ============= Shame, it had a V8. Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php On 10/29/2014 01:51 AM, David Leong wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liqoMjRT81A&list=UUCS1ZL9SgNsS4gvI1i0ydiA > > > Dave Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 07:15:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A412A258475F for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:15:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f42.google.com (mail-oi0-f42.google.com [209.85.218.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D093E2580918 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:08:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id a3so1634147oib.1 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:12:09 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XKpHlQiZvmgqNkGMDQcwQHUjxaI/6iadOh6o9UQJG3A=; b=Q+kDJhBjUWjFS/1cJpCsisUfP/eLuMmRoo4jceOcQmdZieOwZ2g+I4VQbX3zlst9Ml h0lDI6sViYEmWJ/nqLPcfzPhIpc44IKrqnnba7KQYgfNoiByPF0thbxUfOwLFSfjR6xH Fx/qjvDA2L67xUNiRu4wrMFqO05q3/rZKKDz09eRIyR9RRo+2Lcqbdkn+AMfS4fJj7aI ra+pfDGSxc0slwbw4rMxKmx8mLv1px92v92xuNC+AMO97SiY98IcgP5JxrsOSWuIo7Sv MRbKP++LANi/UK7pVapN2pNA8/m6d+qb3+//DtvIfmjN6hQ6ulwS/g8Fxw/GLRfHbQ12 tAEw== nz2mr8443836obb.5.1414588328993; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:12:08 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:12:08 -0700 From: I Erbs To: Alan Seigrist Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 parts book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Alan, nice to see you are OK. Ira Erbs Portland,OR IT Educator and Consultant sent from my smartphone. what you get, May not be what I meant to send On Oct 28, 2014 6:58 PM, "Alan Seigrist" wrote: > Michael b > > I have a photo copy which I'm happy to lend to you let me know if you want > it. > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Tuesday, October 28, 2014, Michael Salter > wrote: > > > I would like to buy a reprint of the factory 100 parts book. > > Does anyone know where one can be purchased.. hard copy not digital.. > > > > Many thanks, > > Michael S > > BN1 #174 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 07:16:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0B42584879 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:16:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout05.plus.net (avasout05.plus.net [84.93.230.250]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6646F25846CB for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:12:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([31.185.186.180]) by avasout05 with smtp id 91G01p0053txfzT011G2No; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:16:02 +0000 a=NEfSZ9mlqyUv7uZAGpJBEg==:117 a=NEfSZ9mlqyUv7uZAGpJBEg==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=zF4657NprdT8fQiXxL8A:9 a=82dtWW1Hxzdir4RN:21 a=1vcL0Ni98TnxKmKK:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: "'Healeys'" Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:16:00 -0000 Thread-Index: Ac/xcUxBT1vM+WQwQtq92ivS1F08JgBYvqiQAClZAhA= Content-Language: en-gb Subject: [Healeys] "Rubber - engine mounting (rear) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Didn't get any response re. this. Maybe it didn't get out or you're all flummoxed? I can't believe it. Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan Sent: 28 October 2014 17:53 To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] : Re - Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion AND "Rubber - engine mounting (rear). AND hose as a vacuum tool extractor. 2) Now, I was on the phone ordering the 4 rubbers for the Gearbox Stabilizer. The chap said that he had the bits and did I want what he referred to as theOverdrive buffer? Page A.18 in my parts book, part number 1A9209...plus bracket, plate, nuts, bolts etc. I had never heard of this thing. He says that most people just find the backing plate and wonder what it is for as there is usually no trace of the rubber buffer, it having fallen off decades ago. Can anyone tell me precisely where this thing is, how it is accessed and what it does? Seems to me that if it is underneath, then it cannot buff up against anything. AND, if it did buff up against something, how can one get at it?? _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 07:30:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EFC25848B0 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:30:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f41.google.com (mail-wg0-f41.google.com [74.125.82.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9869625805F9 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:29:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so1892271wgh.14 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:32:32 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=10oOZzac8au6ruFmPL4VNEop+E0pBe7EiNjnSckYp+I=; b=HLgTk/33wLzpFmqTEdeVjI8YA8RpM0YG3A0xOD2Eqfa4u/qoSfdXbp5Wej9FZnCO97 r/LeUI+wOavEJSEWNLZ7DdYHnmVllznh/4C/PcZUoVwynsI9xbsnX9NcwHLUTyaFggwe wwTq5rOLv1jJcXdRhiylPM/+CilxpjX+JHSaNRKMhckQ4UssPRkMbEPjFlJ2Elj9YCrX Zfd2grKxtvOfFxtymk4rLMJbd0VrlRPg3NcGQzBEaxAlhtxrMlTC/JWcu6/PKUDlX8qR y4y2PcJ0ZXzzBu0QG7HN8CnE+equUmG1dDbN33L+G8tJcIHQMkqtUgaQKcGnR1d55PJz B7rw== d2mr12583529wik.55.1414589551889; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.27.36.108] ([212.183.140.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fq1sm18753629wib.12.2014.10.29.06.32.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:32:30 -0700 (PDT) References: <5450e981.c1e22a0a.3fdd.fffff863SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> From: 'bluehealey' Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:32:30 +0000 To: Simon Lachlan Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] "Rubber - engine mounting (rear) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Simon There are 4 rubber bobbins associated with the tie bar. You probably have that in place. There are two rubber mounts for the rear of the gearbox. These mount to handed brackets which in turn mount to the cruciform. You will definitely have them in place. There is a third buffer rubber - GBC251(AHSpares) which bolts the underside of the overdrive to limit compression of the gearbox mounts. It is held, if I recall, with two 1/4" short set bolts. No brackets or other bits needed. AlanB - iPhone message. > On 29 Oct 2014, at 13:16, "Simon Lachlan" wrote: > > Didn't get any response re. this. Maybe it didn't get out or you're all > flummoxed? I can't believe it. > Simon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon > Lachlan > Sent: 28 October 2014 17:53 > To: 'Healeys' > Subject: [Healeys] : Re - Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion AND > "Rubber - engine mounting (rear). AND hose as a vacuum tool extractor. > > > 2) Now, I was on the phone ordering the 4 rubbers for the Gearbox > Stabilizer. The chap said that he had the bits and did I want what he > referred to as theOverdrive buffer? Page A.18 in my parts book, part number > 1A9209...plus bracket, plate, nuts, bolts etc. > > I had never heard of this thing. He says that most people just find the > backing plate and wonder what it is for as there is usually no trace of the > rubber buffer, it having fallen off decades ago. > > Can anyone tell me precisely where this thing is, how it is accessed and > what it does? Seems to me that if it is underneath, then it cannot buff up > against anything. AND, if it did buff up against something, how can one get > at it?? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 09:17:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBBD2584990 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:17:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BD825848B8 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:11:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id wn1so2530009obc.18 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:14:28 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=0utWs3UqP7kAJGmpyBZCqCwuAHAW3NAgydCPkxH2D2s=; b=MF+2tnz3MvZgsJp5/ywfux7vaHNwY08Gkb1WpIT+oFAj8rzV/JJVGjM0isnFN0aTg3 7MyOQvSm3hF0vYgVGdXpoqPRx+TOdVs1Y2/tZOJQp+w74fnGvx8W3s4fJxY2lXBRwZeC hyzFgxhvH0plWYQ5w3K/4tUklLORhyE/eDAjLrxD+NWtkzTCiXvBZLiydsWk48owia9t 5dhGPcmOuhOEDO2Euw6hKVqhq99rTVfvNPjyM4COP2h4AezO9PJpPA/UpRVXIUhueQKU TqrQeqALuJS7zabm2d7EMf5jHrRA66WV3dF3jfz9Pf6F4iqVpjpdFg7YbUYjz0m8DkfE JpRA== dg9mr8861033obb.44.1414595668582; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:13:58 -0700 (PDT) References: <5450e982.8d0f2a0a.1fcf.ffffebc6SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> From: I Erbs Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:13:58 -0700 To: Simon Lachlan , Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] "Rubber - engine mounting (rear) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net I have a new set of the rear transmission rubber mounts, if that is what you are describing. I am using a Smitty kit, so do not need them. # 26 and 30 in the moss motors book http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=28886 Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:16 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote: > Didn't get any response re. this. Maybe it didn't get out or you're all > flummoxed? I can't believe it. > Simon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon > Lachlan > Sent: 28 October 2014 17:53 > To: 'Healeys' > Subject: [Healeys] : Re - Rear shocks, rebuilds or telescopic conversion > AND > "Rubber - engine mounting (rear). AND hose as a vacuum tool extractor. > > > 2) Now, I was on the phone ordering the 4 rubbers for the Gearbox > Stabilizer. The chap said that he had the bits and did I want what he > referred to as the Overdrive buffer? Page A.18 in my parts book, part > number > 1A9209...plus bracket, plate, nuts, bolts etc. > > I had never heard of this thing. He says that most people just find the > backing plate and wonder what it is for as there is usually no trace of the > rubber buffer, it having fallen off decades ago. > > Can anyone tell me precisely where this thing is, how it is accessed and > what it does? Seems to me that if it is underneath, then it cannot buff up > against anything. AND, if it did buff up against something, how can one get > at it?? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 09:31:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B212584D9A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:31:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1AD25848CE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:27:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141029153021.RJMQ28942.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:30:21 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([68.8.99.146]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id 93WM1p00T39WC8c013WM1Z; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:30:21 -0400 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:17 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=Bb-OEHRBAAAA:8 a=2nOvNI6EAAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=1II3RYjI3CPz9eeyN_wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=JTJp-z-3h0gA:10 a=voZrjb6_8qcA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=yCniUXaIoEwviQx4pJvhuQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Wilko2 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:30:19 -0700 Cc: "Healey List (healeys@autox.team.net)" References: <8tsV1p00g0NyJgq01tsWWZ> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Whose Healey was used for this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Here's just the "Healey": http://ewilkins.com/wilko/healeys/Getting_Started_Healey_v8.mov On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:51 PM, David Leong wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liqoMjRT81A&list=UUCS1ZL9SgNsS4gvI1i0ydiA > > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins@cox.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 09:33:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB45C2584DE2 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:33:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f51.google.com (mail-oi0-f51.google.com [209.85.218.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF6025848F6 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f51.google.com with SMTP id g201so2471397oib.24 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=DscV9N/uhB2jNLRrx0ijeHJmRc958r6JeFhcO06C7v8=; b=kKgZWZcoc7hCd/4Jsl3DqkjgHYoMTrL6tIZJsP2H3Xuc+tBduiC4BgUCj2T/I/Vgs0 iW3qXiaTjeqVIl2OHbeqqV3cZ3aRRD3ugpbFsaBBh307H5b4JHkCJPXRFEd0/3Tznxln 6CF0/f/pdevq9HK+jSDvLMdtXZ1TpyLzW+ZpWI7/NBP3lh5Y5SgykDIgVblifFZum15q BO6PaugOM0ZQBfNzonlmRMUg1IdSbFXStDoF3va6JXC09E9akoX6r74/+BiHCs2Yk0tt W9fQZwomgk6NuhRjWsOnKSFYik8wl+0svZkemwmO2XO9oQMiQXIWV7jG+gUMlEGcFlbu 4qdg== ye20mr6472723obb.16.1414596983645; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:35:53 -0700 (PDT) From: I Erbs Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:35:53 -0700 To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Six Cars that Look Exactly Like Smiling People or Cartoon Characters Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net http://tinyurl.com/pwt9vtv b b There is a frogeye in the mix. Some of these are a stretch... Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 10:16:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6D62584B83 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:16:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f42.google.com (mail-oi0-f42.google.com [209.85.218.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACC32584920 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:11:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id a3so1936424oib.1 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:14:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=IBpmZ8M1JaKRAVUNMXdR3b8vlce/bbfI3tvQLjQKBxI=; b=GvlobyWro6Mzd2uPm52ifN5Fv/xbUwnjqY22ZxtorneoCkkIXPsXQqLgyBNxJrcDMp 9JGE+arV9tzsgfQeWtvJKm/lpgJTPaFix/qDrDXqildFdYFTz5o7r3LLquocUNlv3wRD bXZJiXFo1kUbLNUD87KZWwiUe2bes8dHSJDmnvkiZVRR7TdWBFd/GKHExHi4wRwsiW+A QVfd3htGHVCphH0wBE2uR2ex3AMT6wZ6frl858vXFuFv4vQuUEJiqoMwr+z2T46YzsBV g8v8lIMTjCxXZzbxRmCFXcceaNBq2EJ4A+Y+pKC3EgO/v8BWhuIRQ+3Oe4o8D0mgMU1X Tq2w== Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.18.33 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:14:31 -0700 (PDT) References: <500A3047-3CC6-4C17-9AF2-4C7662AB169A@cox.net> From: Michael Oritt Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:14:31 -0400 To: Wilko2 Cc: "Healey List \(healeys@autox.team.net\)" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Whose Healey was used for this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Who cares about the Healey--what about that woman! On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Wilko2 wrote: > Here's just the "Healey": > > http://ewilkins.com/wilko/healeys/Getting_Started_Healey_v8.mov > > > > On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:51 PM, David Leong wrote: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liqoMjRT81A&list=UUCS1ZL9SgNsS4gvI1i0ydiA > > > > > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 21:33:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1043D2584605 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 21:33:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f47.google.com (mail-pa0-f47.google.com [209.85.220.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3B92584590 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 21:29:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id kx10so4534511pab.34 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:32:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2SoUMgjIyOuONVV2eO6gufF2HXV9azTQC7QH896Tv5M=; b=Qer8Y0tMJ/POYNG6YRMtN6qmJMXWfn1jEHxZnIHrefcsokeoOKmWsez2RnPx/GYsy0 NNqhaKNwwMY6KWG/BLP8h2cY0M06cWK6vJhQP0O5/WZhjFNYzKNf/gMEJiDXvnFvmmhS fuZY+3ckglE2KZnN4asvOYVXmRGAM8fL57ZxnNRo0j1q0p7bhJok+cDzk+uPfYB4+8Pt 6KO94NBbx+0bxIujUo3oVf4qiRob9E0KU1HknHxzWGCf8Sxww9AVUpFLqiorwCaDG0vM rUhHJCNfsz9nnE9tzoHmPj3SITaXhpzZumi4u6Uqfbucfqk/2D2DURiDGBUSNPnZ+vOP 60Kg== vz4mr14346693pac.27.1414639969248; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.46.68 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:32:49 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:32:49 +0800 From: Alan Seigrist To: I Erbs Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 parts book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Ira, been super busy at work and with the family, so I've just mostly been lurking. Glad to see all is well with everyone! On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:12 PM, I Erbs wrote: > Alan, nice to see you are OK. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > IT Educator and Consultant > sent from my smartphone. what you get, May not be what I meant to send > On Oct 28, 2014 6:58 PM, "Alan Seigrist" wrote: > >> Michael b >> >> I have a photo copy which I'm happy to lend to you let me know if you want >> it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan >> >> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014, Michael Salter >> wrote: >> >> > I would like to buy a reprint of the factory 100 parts book. >> > Does anyone know where one can be purchased.. hard copy not digital.. >> > >> > Many thanks, >> > Michael S >> > BN1 #174 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > >> > Healeys@autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 22:49:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841A825846A1 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:49:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S29.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s29.hotmail.com [65.55.111.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077B125845C9 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:48:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W11 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S29.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 29 Oct 2014 21:52:18 -0700 From: Jean Caron To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 04:52:18 +0000 FILETIME=[48A8C810:01CFF3FD] Subject: [Healeys] Hexagon head setpin - Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net List: On early BN1's the door hinges have in addition of the four countersunk , pozidrive bolts holding the hinge to the door post, a hexagon bolt in the center of the hinge plate. The Service Manual calls it a head setpin. Does anyone know how this bolt/setpin is attached to? I am assembling a door post right now, the early 100 have a reinforcement plate spotwelded to the back of the door post, then the cage that holds the tapped plate goes on and the tapped plate has that hole in the center but it is not tapped, should it be? Or is that setpin held by something else that is not there on the parts I have. Jean _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 12:13:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF7D258497E for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f170.google.com (mail-pd0-f170.google.com [209.85.192.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610BF25848BE for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:12:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id z10so5654116pdj.1 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:16:17 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=goyCPzHIdN26WqNXQD1ac5gabYugWZihaShskxQanxA=; b=Uo0WiV/itId12jpVtSoVKW0RF9QTiTZjuELgcqjN9yMUzLjNwltcqM0S5xR0H/mGmy ZeNrulIfyF83FiRTmfLhEZPE52IoT01tGMY8cdG8X6zF+FADPpLKmsFi1fgToTJeNr9h YL5/crEoBeczV3Na43gqVpYvDPy5aWdaG6ryyT6mY/jJFVaNo5SlD13KOoK8TZ+Ex2+t 8tpzc5WqLb8DpSNexUUEoJkTrhOSvdOO0X7WKW98ismoUQD6XqCcanLrb6bD5HzI8YIN FCZ6vJ3e6ncXjwVssaZNJ8ZTjUMzn8F7QUtHnVvdjcbo0oxjXmZhzg/s92w1SMQ3u4uA n7Qw== w15mr19518881pdj.8.1414692977295; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:252:d49:5e50:4d0b:4af0:56c6:85d8? ([2602:252:d49:5e50:4d0b:4af0:56c6:85d8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ub7sm7754114pbc.30.2014.10.30.11.16.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:16:11 -0400 From: Wayne Schultz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Tri-carb poor running Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I was stymied by the poor part throttle response of my friends tri-carb Healey. I checked and rebuilt the distributor, checked the carburetors, mixture, cam timing, adjusted the valves, different coil, etc. Everything I looked at was in spec. I then decided to try different SU damper springs. The original springs were the original red springs and measured at the proper 4.5 oz. at 2 . 6 inches or so. I replaced the Red springs with Yellow springs at 8 oz at 2.6 inches. Without changing anything else the results were dramatic. The power comes on smoothly and the hesitant and poor light throttle response is totally gone. Even with its early cam the car now feels pretty close to my own BJ-8 in term of drivability and power. I can't tell you how many hours of trying to fix this problem were fixed with $20 worth of carburetor springs. My advice to anyone with similar problems is to give the Yellow damper springs a try. Even if you think you tri-carb is running well give the Yellow springs a try. I did have to adjust the carburetor mixture a couple of flats to get the best idle after changing the springs. I use 30# oil in the dash pots. Wayne _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 12:44:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F856258482C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:44:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mailout02.t-online.de (mailout02.t-online.de [194.25.134.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57F425844D2 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:43:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fwd36.aul.t-online.de (fwd36.aul.t-online.de [172.20.26.137]) by mailout02.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id A87CF2781EB; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:47:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (XVKSlcZ6ohgXzoPdR-IlbXg9SrsQ6a0aajykx4shB+We-0s5-Unk1uyoORMDPWPQVm@[172.20.102.123]) by fwd36.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1XjukO-4SQ06S0; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:47:00 +0100 Received: from 93.214.137.187:54479 by cmpweb29.aul.t-online.de with HTTP/1.1 (Lisa V3-0-9-0.11136 on API V3-17-7-0) References: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:47:00 +0100 To: "Jean Caron" , "Healeys, Forum" From: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" Subject: Re: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Hexagon_head_setpin__-?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Jean, The centre hole in the tapped plate should be tapped. Josef Eckert Germany -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: [Healeys] Hexagon head setpin - Datum: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:53:06 +0100 Von: Jean Caron An: "healeys@autox.team.net" List: On early BN1's the door hinges have in addition of the four countersunk , pozidrive bolts holding the hinge to the door post, a hexagon bolt in the center of the hinge plate. The Service Manual calls it a head setpin. Does anyone know how this bolt/setpin is attached to? I am assembling a door post right now, the early 100 have a reinforcement plate spotwelded to the back of the door post, then the cage that holds the tapped plate goes on and the tapped plate has that hole in the center but it is not tapped, should it be? Or is that setpin held by something else that is not there on the parts I have. Jean Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 12:57:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080282584816 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:57:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD762584601 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:57:13 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1414695636; bh=p0wBrbakuJTc22snnz3QkC3ybWGtsx2DgpdGUnNS7GE=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=nOmya2qXwhUaHY6VWAgw5HuNBdT1hxvuNimg4iKtgFnp5alr7fxs14MuMizaCtFev80wrge+WOzGw5y7+V7lB8uD4fjVLRaSczId1+4Un/znD7reaRRmpYLv7BdJY6nekcJdpqRdMOmsz2Aml9a9w9moRShBvubbLlta8am/6qA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=F+OKXF9cuoQX9cMubyb6B1QGqzCZsgh4++oTUns7+GDTaB1pVrD9EnAcO2cD30zpwvkA4yz7kJ3lNury7s9WJRCXtuiYBayOb3FDZblHDHo3il0v3yOpLG7kxvagEWsDwvFqOf8pLCLuZ94keRhflqrFToDgK1YOl+aW9tBgm4g=; Received: from [216.39.60.168] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2014 19:00:36 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.241] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2014 19:00:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2014 19:00:36 -0000 3UT5R99dLfRuwgqT5tik5n8lIEKb6ikNIuRMcQcWogvvqGjh6XM360opPTk1 Xm2stYaEsuDOV1f_BpmLcfotWRcsU6WQ2E4UIuDzwxa8m2Oykp_vCice6GcD h7j6fygzoxx2L4W5szEqo_Okf0qHv8Yy2Uu_oA8nVCEM4GpNUP9FVF9dvT2b 6xlWAQVCANOc8OFCC8ZhG4LeJXVzee3HrHkTfWqGdpefKZyKwXlTZd1qC4ja UMzSX9cNGTOYHCUvsWfd2VCnTNFWXmYVUTHOk.6cOOW3CL0iH3Zg55_Z7k53 MacwNJ4e0gDO8YV.4mx8Qg4wvm.gt4FAApD0dRuvEHvEok6MroU1Yl.ckS2U TjUySnrBnUmQVqRdneAS2QiwM4StWVKlyIfW1WxCRdABcALyC5KZwmKK2RAn S8zfN63ywgYYoRoTRqE9DuBWmjUfsu1m4RCzy0QBWTUWdPI5o2AGONMkPyH. 3D.Cj1IWR8kBPfPd1uM2gADejieIlJHJuorXLzyPyPsST4NA0AcJEbDORTTY A4Nbq1b7wO2_bmqjN3J1LQWItgOhgjXTShpeAvrrCP4snjVst2xFW8N_Sii4 sj8B0pUrRX.z4sl9Dze9zgtLjeBgwFMKmoQF_Dg72qmMyM8WDFS5WMSSkQ97 jWX2RXT4t2VA- From: "David Nock BCS" To: "Wayne Schultz" , References: <5452806B.60808@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:00:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tri-carb poor running Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Your problem especially with the tri carb is that the carbs are leaning out due to the Ethanol in the gas today. What you have done is richened up the mixture off idle. The best answer is to install the rich needles and the car will come to life. David Nock British Car Specialists 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Schultz Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:16 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Tri-carb poor running Hi, I was stymied by the poor part throttle response of my friends tri-carb Healey. I checked and rebuilt the distributor, checked the carburetors, mixture, cam timing, adjusted the valves, different coil, etc. Everything I looked at was in spec. I then decided to try different SU damper springs. The original springs were the original red springs and measured at the proper 4.5 oz. at 2 . 6 inches or so. I replaced the Red springs with Yellow springs at 8 oz at 2.6 inches. Without changing anything else the results were dramatic. The power comes on smoothly and the hesitant and poor light throttle response is totally gone. Even with its early cam the car now feels pretty close to my own BJ-8 in term of drivability and power. I can't tell you how many hours of trying to fix this problem were fixed with $20 worth of carburetor springs. My advice to anyone with similar problems is to give the Yellow damper springs a try. Even if you think you tri-carb is running well give the Yellow springs a try. I did have to adjust the carburetor mixture a couple of flats to get the best idle after changing the springs. I use 30# oil in the dash pots. Wayne Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 16:26:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236322584974 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:26:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC1S21.hotmail.com (blu004-omc1s21.hotmail.com [65.55.116.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE1E258476B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:26:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W46 ([65.55.116.8]) by BLU004-OMC1S21.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:29:26 -0700 From: Jean Caron To: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" , "Healeys, Forum" Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 22:29:25 +0000 References: , <1XjukO-4SQ06S0@fwd36.aul.t-online.de> FILETIME=[F696A710:01CFF490] Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hexagon head setpin - Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Josef, will tap the new plates, sounds like this is what holds the setpin. Jean > Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:47:00 +0100 > To: vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com; Healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: AW: [Healeys] Hexagon head setpin - > From: josef-eckert@t-online.de > > Jean, > The centre hole in the tapped plate should be tapped. > > Josef Eckert > Germany > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > Betreff: [Healeys] Hexagon head setpin - > Datum: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:53:06 +0100 > Von: Jean Caron > An: "healeys@autox.team.net" > > List: > On early BN1's the door hinges have in addition of the four countersunk , > pozidrive bolts holding the hinge to the door post, a hexagon bolt in the > center of the hinge plate. The Service Manual calls it a head setpin. Does > anyone know how this bolt/setpin is attached to? > I am assembling a door post right now, the early 100 have a reinforcement > plate spotwelded to the back of the door post, then the cage that holds the > tapped plate goes on and the tapped plate has that hole in the center but it > is not tapped, should it be? > Or is that setpin held by something else that is not there on the parts I > have. > > Jean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/josef-eckert@t-online.de _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 00:33:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4054258455B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 00:32:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S8.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s8.hotmail.com [65.55.111.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B8D25844CB for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 00:32:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU437-SMTP50 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S8.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:35:52 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.9.131030 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:35:44 +1100 From: J Armour To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Nash-Healey FILETIME=[EA0A9580:01CFF4D4] Subject: [Healeys] Nash-Healey Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net The October issue of 'Octane' mag has an interview with Paolo Pininfarina and he recounts his father's involvement in, to them, a multi-national project when of the 500 employees, only 3 could speak English. To attend a meeting in Detroit from Turin it involved 8 flights via London,Shannon,Halifax,Nova Scotia and finally Detroit - in DC4s At that time a collaboration between British, American and Italian partners was rare. Sergio Farina said " if we could do the Nash-Healey we could do anything" PS in the same issue a bloke has written an interesting letter about the works LeMans/Sebring Sprites. Joe _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 11:50:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE9F25844BF for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:50:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BB825807F5 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:43:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SimonPC ([87.114.159.251]) by avasout08 with smtp id 9tmx1p0015Rk7RB01tmyfR; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:46:58 +0000 a=VPIB8CDKhzDNi/N0rXMq6w==:117 a=VPIB8CDKhzDNi/N0rXMq6w==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=p5YOmTROAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=_cxdvPUlpIwImvY5YVAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=oOYMBhrCZWyqCMrwlsMA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:46:55 -0000 Thread-Index: Ac/1Mqd3gT8qD+uJT0eiDQSnvg1i7A== Content-Language: en-gb Subject: [Healeys] Telescopic shocker Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Ref all the previous toing aand froing on this subject, I have now installed a telescopic shock to the LHS of my MkII BT7. (Awkward, but manageable). On looking at the finished result I wonder if the manufacturer has labelled the parts back to front. (They will go in on either side and, having worked out what goes where, one cannot get it in wrong.....it either all lines up or nothing lines up). First of all does anyone have any pics? My kit comes from Ahead4Healeys; AH Spares does the same (Danish!) kit. Pics of any kit would help. What has got me thinking is this:- The bottom mounting on the spring plate is towards the rear of the plate and the top mounting is in the forward position so that the shock is very close to the rear bulkhead. The shock sits at about 45degrees from axle to bulkhead. If one reversed the sides ie mounted the so-called R(ear) R(ight on the car's LHS instead of the RHS, then the shock would sit up much closer to the vertical. I have checked with the supplier......yes, in their terminology Right is on the driver's right as he sits in the car. I doubt that I have made myself very clear, but it boils down to this:- Is 45 degrees not a very shallow angle and is not something closer to vertical better? Do you have any pictures? Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 13:07:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F351125844A6 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:07:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E43A2580972 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:07:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id nt9so7054854obb.41 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:10:33 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=lWkQo/NPgYY3eduMNFU5UswdlPVUKujwAWn/ps2tmUo=; b=BmgnCwSNs7yblmT8gqE4QqOQMVv0n0nb61uqieqIAytQjlKjsvfDKql8YsGynxDs+V Y2I0E6WoRanKZ6O0lx6WG7MAqfoa5hyrxxAWgzX+dDDZUZgFtDNa1+P/Ufi/syFG/82J b3u7QDuzbo64B9jpE4sVI+LJmaupN8Tr6dp1VO1962EmZe6G1QDjG+Kq+nszw5dWfs+H F5BgTGhXaICcxF7Gf61KZiZoeIgi6qMb33CtHhLmZ6AGTaPGes2GmMMH+79HnNXaiQ0b Mhh6yBzcWYyiQu92i9hvBr6pGtEZqQb/lc5rlYKbe8WmGoKh0p3DqZZRFhPhnCo38n3j k++g== v1mr21928867oeo.19.1414782633356; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.176.212 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:10:03 -0700 (PDT) References: <4A44F40471D80B418B0C39874148FCF00935E0AC@SBSERVER.deniswelch.local> From: I Erbs Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:10:03 -0700 To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: News from Denis Welch Motorsport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Amazing video of a very fast Healey racing Ira Erbs IT Teacher and Consultant Portland, OR Your worst day at work is better than your best day in Prison Darrin King ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: sales@bighealey.co.uk Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:00 PM Subject: News from Denis Welch Motorsport To: [image: Denis Welch Motorsport | bighealey.co.uk] *31st October 2014* 'Scorching' Algarve Classic! Portimao 17th-19th October 2014 The 2014 running of the *Algarve Classic Festival*, held on the 17-19 October at the* Autodromo Internacional do Algarve in Portugal *saw a total of eleven grids and 14 races on track, nearly 300 international drivers and over 170 classic race cars. The *GT and Sports Car Cup race* was a highlight of the end-of-season racing event for *Denis Welch Motorsport*. No less than forty five Pre-66 classics to include an array of AC Cobras, a very strong group of Jaguar E-types, a few TVR's Grantura and five Austin-Healey's, lined up on the starting grid to compete in this 120 minute race. *Jeremy Welch *and *Mark Pangborn* drove an extraordinary race in Jeremy's* Austin-Healey KVS484.* With fast laps throughout the 2-hour race, the quick pit stops, close overtaking and a dynamic fight with fast AC Cobra's saw the team move up from 18th place after the qualifying session, to finish in *7th position overall and 1st in the GT3 Class* - *Congratulations!* Watch the first 3 laps of the GT&SCC race on *Denis Welch Motorsport Channel >> * [image: Watch GT&SCC Race on our YouTube Channel | Algarve Classic Festival 2014] There were main driver changes in the team *Mills/Montgomery* - *Robert Mills* couldn't take a part in the event, so passed the wheel to *Dave Smithies.* After qualifying 42nd the duet *Smithies/Montgomery* fought hard to move up a remarkable* fifteen places* in the GT&SCC race to finish *27th overall and 6th in the GT2 Class* in Robert's Austin-Healey 100. * It was a positive end-of-season race meeting with the benefit of scorching weather and an enjoyable atmosphere.* Both Austin-Healey's prepared by *Denis Welch Motorsport* ran smoothly with no repairs required. [image: Jeremy Welch/Mark Pangborn in 54 | Robert Mills/Ian Montgomery in 31] *GT&SCC Qualifying* - Saturday 18th October - * 40 minutes* *Position* *Car No.* *Driver* *Co-Driver* *Car* *Laps* *Best time* *Best speed* *18* 54 *Jeremy Welch* *Mark Pangborn* Austin-Healey 3000 7 02:16.413 122.791 Km/h *42* 31 *Dave Smithies* *Ian Montgomery* Austin-Healey 100 15 02:30.260 111.476 Km/h *GT&SCC Race* - Sunday 19th October - *120 minutes* *Position* *Car No.* *Driver* *Co-Driver* *Car* *Laps* *Best time* *Best speed* *7* 54 *Jeremy Welch* *Mark Pangborn* Austin-Healey 3000 50 02:15.418 123.694 Km/h *27* 31 *Dave Smithies* *Ian Montgomery* Austin-Healey 100 45 02:28.265 112.976 Km/h *Photos: credits to Gbphotosports & Jim Houlgrave* [image: Visit us at the Classic Motor Show - Hall 9 Stand 9-090 | NEC, 14th-16th November 2014] *If you wish to collect any parts from our Stand at the NEC please place your order prior to 12th November* | *Parts Hotline: +44 (0) 1543 472 244 <%2B44%20%280%29%201543%20472%20244>*, *email us: sales@bighealey.co.uk * or place your order via www.bighealey.co.uk website. *AUSTIN HEALEY* * | JAGUAR | MGB | MGC | FORMULA JUNIOR | SPRITE/MIDGET | LOTUS * ------------------------------ Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be legally privileged. 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Company Registration No. 1314890 Registered Offices: Sudbury Road Garage, Sudbury Road, Yoxall, Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, DE13 8NA _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 13:20:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA182580A1C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:20:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: healeys@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555B52580972 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:11:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hi2so2123796wib.7 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:15:13 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=zoZ87WmFJiTf55NJhD3eBybWNT9tXMPs/MW2I8Y1Gbc=; b=1Gxfw1ZgUPkx+ESKmzscZGjrHMHk1cIxD5D9ukD0LuP6oMoVpLwG4VVePIm8xFN6ha W0m+MFqqbjwZsvZRra4BfJOanavGH6JiOFmeI1d//HH1k8HOk23+YR8Db7f64Y2+2MWw SvqWE6/0q8ytlNAbm5ouFXORxnpEK9tQRSo5pvoI2/Ld62kIFZkPlT44ujICLSZtb4Cp L06ikFuUQNloOG3OBIhzfDJdX70YKzpJcMEv3QwX8sej97UM+SP78ZWp9x642TAHTrAU ctAuuy6BBf7zmEEkYnSnrBejG5RKyW6TqmxBPwNsxOIhaJlC76mmzu8tRK7omeD+wc6i i1OQ== j1mr30191661wjy.38.1414782913205; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DesktopPC (host86-133-141-88.range86-133.btcentralplus.com. [86.133.141.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j20sm13085594wjn.0.2014.10.31.12.15.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:15:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bluehealey" To: "'Simon Lachlan'" , References: <5453cca5.741d320a.4303.ffffb5a4SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 19:15:05 -0000 Thread-Index: AQJQ4pDK3goVPROYaYyS6BbqY381H5tIt+Qg Content-Language: en-gb Subject: Re: [Healeys] Telescopic shocker Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net You are quite right Simon. Close to vertical is best. If the shock is at 45degs at rest, a lot of mechanical advantage has been lost. As the foot of the shock moves vertically in compression (bump) then even more advantage would be lost effectively reducing the damping rate. Sounds wrong to me. Best.............. _________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield_______________) (______\__1957-BN4__1959-AN5__/______) (_____BlueHealey.com______) -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan Sent: 31 October 2014 17:47 To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Telescopic shocker Hi, Ref all the previous toing aand froing on this subject, I have now installed a telescopic shock to the LHS of my MkII BT7. (Awkward, but manageable). On looking at the finished result I wonder if the manufacturer has labelled the parts back to front. (They will go in on either side and, having worked out what goes where, one cannot get it in wrong.....it either all lines up or nothing lines up). First of all does anyone have any pics? My kit comes from Ahead4Healeys; AH Spares does the same (Danish!) kit. Pics of any kit would help. What has got me thinking is this:- The bottom mounting on the spring plate is towards the rear of the plate and the top mounting is in the forward position so that the shock is very close to the rear bulkhead. The shock sits at about 45degrees from axle to bulkhead. If one reversed the sides ie mounted the so-called R(ear) R(ight on the car's LHS instead of the RHS, then the shock would sit up much closer to the vertical. I have checked with the supplier......yes, in their terminology Right is on the driver's right as he sits in the car. I doubt that I have made myself very clear, but it boils down to this:- Is 45 degrees not a very shallow angle and is not something closer to vertical better? Do you have any pictures? Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys