Subject: Re: [Fot] Wix 51515R

From: Ken Hollar via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:19:59 +0000 (UTC)

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 Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:
The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.=C2=A0 The Napa=
 Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is also make in Mexico.=C2=A0 I used to b=
e in the oil filter business.=C2=A0 The country of origin has to be on the =
product.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Oil filters are made in many countries.=C2=A0 My son-in-law bought an oil f=
ilter for his Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.=
=C2=A0 They should be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.=C2=A0 I bought a 5/16 in =
universal fuel filter once made in Russia of all places.=C2=A0 I used to se=
ll fuel filters made in Israel.=C2=A0 Check the country of origin when buyi=
ng all automotive products and then make your determination as to if you wa=
nt to buy them or not.
Good Luck.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Ken Hollar408-655-7569
    On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, Brian Schirano via Fo=
t <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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 Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!

Take a look at the quick search=C2=A0of prices on the Wix 51515R filters $1=
0.79 to $19.97
I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came fr=
om, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China a=
nd when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.

Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you=C2=A0using?
Brian--=20
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hello All Tractor Engine Ent=
husiasts:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Motors is ma=
de in Mexico.&nbsp; The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is also make =
in Mexico.&nbsp; I used to be in the oil filter business.&nbsp; The country=
 of origin has to be on the product.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Oil filt=
ers are made in many countries.&nbsp; My son-in-law bought an oil filter fo=
r his Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.&nbsp; The=
y should be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.&nbsp; I bought a 5/16 in universal =
fuel filter once made in Russia of all places.&nbsp; I used to sell fuel fi=
lters made in Israel.&nbsp; Check the country of origin when buying all aut=
omotive products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy =
them or not.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Good Luck.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Ken=
 Hollar</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">408-655-7569</div><div =
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rian Schirano via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydpf0e2a4e0y=
iv0099435152gmail_default">Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!<br=
></div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydp=
f0e2a4e0yiv0099435152gmail_default">Take a look at the quick search&nbsp;<a=
 href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dwix+51515r&amp;num=3D10&amp;neww=
indow=3D1&amp;client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&amp;sca_esv=3D75a9c45cc36bf744&amp;sxs=
rf=3DADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A1735771586753&amp;ei=3DwsV1Z4LWLf=
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IKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5QQYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFM=
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TAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&amp;sclient=3Dgws-wiz-serp" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
blank">of prices on the Wix 51515R filters</a> $10.79 to $19.97</div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydpf0e2a4e0yiv0099435152gmail_default"><=
br></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydpf0e2a4e0yiv0099435152g=
mail_default">I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the=
 story came from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now m=
ade in China and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.<=
br></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydpf0e2a4e0yiv0099435152g=
mail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydpf0e2a4e=
0yiv0099435152gmail_default">Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are y=
ou&nbsp;using?</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydpf0e2a4e0yiv=
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From: Brian Schirano via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:54:32 -0500

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Thanks for the responses Guys
Country of origin really doesn't bother me until it impacts quality. The
*story* was someone did a cut away and the internals were inferior,
implying that when the manufacturing was offshored either the spec differed
or those manufacturing took liberties. And the trouble was, looking from
the outside, everything looked the same. No idea of what made them do the
cut away.
All that said, I don't want to malign anyone without evidence, this is all
hear-say. (I was looking to FOT for experience), maybe I can get
Bob-is-the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. Meanwhile I have two on the
shelf from Mann & Hummel (a German co) mfg in NC and these were about $10
per.
Cheers
Brian

On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:20=E2=80=AFAM Ken Hollar <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

> The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.  The Napa
> Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is also make in Mexico.  I used to be in
> the oil filter business.  The country of origin has to be on the product.
>
> Oil filters are made in many countries.  My son-in-law bought an oil
> filter for his Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea=
.
> They should be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.  I bought a 5/16 in universal
> fuel filter once made in Russia of all places.  I used to sell fuel filte=
rs
> made in Israel.  Check the country of origin when buying all automotive
> products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them o=
r
> not.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Ken Hollar
> 408-655-7569
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, Brian Schirano via Fot =
<
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Take a look at the quick search of prices on the Wix 51515R filters
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dwix+51515r&num=3D10&newwindow=3D1&clie=
nt=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=3D75a9c45cc36bf744&sxsrf=3DADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvk=
b6R9YtaznQZPg%3A1735771586753&ei=3DwsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&oq=3Dwix+5&gs_lp=
=3DEgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4Y=
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BBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&sclient=3Dgws-wiz-s=
erp>
> $10.79 to $19.97
>
> I was talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came
> from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in Chi=
na
> and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.
>
> Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you using?
>
> Brian
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Tha=
nks for the responses Guys</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
size:large">Country of origin really doesn&#39;t bother me until it impacts=
=C2=A0quality. The <i><b>story</b></i> was someone did a cut away and the i=
nternals were inferior, implying=C2=A0that when the manufacturing was offsh=
ored either the spec differed or those manufacturing took liberties. And th=
e trouble was, looking from the outside, everything looked the same. No ide=
a of what made them do the cut away.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:large">All that said, I don&#39;t want to malign anyone with=
out evidence, this is all hear-say.=C2=A0(I was looking to FOT for experien=
ce), maybe I can get Bob-is-the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. Meanwhile I=
 have two on the shelf from Mann &amp; Hummel (a German co) mfg in NC and t=
hese were about $10 per.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-si=
ze:large">Cheers</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large=
">Brian</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:20=E2=80=AFAM Ken Hollar =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-=
size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Mot=
ors is made in Mexico.=C2=A0 The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is a=
lso make in Mexico.=C2=A0 I used to be in the oil filter business.=C2=A0 Th=
e country of origin has to be on the product.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Oil filters are made in many countries.=C2=
=A0 My son-in-law bought an oil filter for his Porsche Cayenne from Autozon=
e that was make in South Korea.=C2=A0 They should be made my Mann or Malhe,=
 etc.=C2=A0 I bought a 5/16 in universal fuel filter once made in Russia of=
 all places.=C2=A0 I used to sell fuel filters made in Israel.=C2=A0 Check =
the country of origin when buying all automotive products and then make you=
r determination as to if you want to buy them or not.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Good Luck.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ken Hollar</div><div dir=3D"ltr">408-655-7569</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
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                        On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, B=
rian Schirano via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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152"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-size:large">=
Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!<br></div><br clear=3D"all"></=
div><div style=3D"font-size:large">Take a look at the quick search=C2=A0<a =
href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dwix+51515r&amp;num=3D10&amp;newwi=
ndow=3D1&amp;client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&amp;sca_esv=3D75a9c45cc36bf744&amp;sxsr=
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YhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCT=
AuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&amp;sclient=3Dgws-wiz-serp" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
lank">of prices on the Wix 51515R filters</a> $10.79 to $19.97</div><div st=
yle=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:large">I was talk=
ing with someone about this and who knows where the story came from, or acc=
uracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China and when cu=
t away, no longer the same quality as in the past.<br></div><div style=3D"f=
ont-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:large">Fact or Fiction?? =
anybody know? and what are you=C2=A0using?</div><div style=3D"font-size:lar=
ge"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:large">Brian</div><span>-- </span><br=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian Schirano<div>585-305-0349</div></d=
iv></div></div>
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r></div><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian Schirano<div>585-305-03=
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:11:31 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi Brian,
I=E2=80=99ve noticed a couple of different WIX 51516, which appear to be ma=
de differently, (inlet hole and valve flap material differences) and it was=
 the manufacturing country indicating the difference=E2=80=A6. Although I d=
idn=E2=80=99t have an issue with either. =C2=A0Wix does specify the microns=
 they will filter down to, so I suppose we have to trust that they are all =
manufactured to the =E2=80=9Csame=E2=80=9D specifications on the parts that=
 matter. =C2=A0But, I know that sounds like a crazy leap of faith. =C2=A0(L=
OL)
I also cut apart my filters to examine what=E2=80=99s going on; I haven=E2=
=80=99t found anything concerning about the filter (or my engine - yay) yet=
.
Hope that helps!Dave Gott

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 6:58 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:

Thanks for the responses GuysCountry of origin really doesn't bother me unt=
il it impacts=C2=A0quality. The story was someone did a cut away and the in=
ternals were inferior, implying=C2=A0that when the manufacturing was offsho=
red either the spec differed or those manufacturing took liberties. And the=
 trouble was, looking from the outside, everything looked the same. No idea=
 of what made them do the cut away.All that said, I don't want to malign an=
yone without evidence, this is all hear-say.=C2=A0(I was looking to FOT for=
 experience), maybe I can get Bob-is-the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. Me=
anwhile I have two on the shelf from Mann & Hummel (a German co) mfg in NC =
and these were about $10 per.CheersBrian

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Hi Brian,<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve noticed a couple of different WIX=
 51516, which appear to be made differently, (inlet hole and valve flap mat=
erial differences) and it was the manufacturing country indicating the diff=
erence=E2=80=A6. Although I didn=E2=80=99t have an issue with either. &nbsp=
;Wix does specify the microns they will filter down to, so I suppose we hav=
e to trust that they are all manufactured to the =E2=80=9Csame=E2=80=9D spe=
cifications on the parts that matter. &nbsp;But, I know that sounds like a =
crazy leap of faith. &nbsp;(LOL)</div><div><br></div><div>I also cut apart =
my filters to examine what=E2=80=99s going on; I haven=E2=80=99t found anyt=
hing concerning about the filter (or my engine - yay) yet.</div><div><br></=
div><div>Hope that helps!</div><div>Dave Gott<br><br><br><div class=3D"yaho=
o-signature" style=3D""><a style=3D"font-size:12px" href=3D"https://mail.on=
elink.me/107872968?pid=3Dnativeplacement&amp;c=3DGlobal_Acquisition_YMktg_3=
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quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: rgb(113, 95, 250); padding-t=
op: 15px; margin-top: 0px;">On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 6:58 AM, Brian Sc=
hirano via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"io=
symail" style=3D""><div id=3D"yiv9423661948"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div sty=
le=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default">Thanks for the=
 responses Guys</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv9423661948=
gmail_default">Country of origin really doesn't bother me until it impacts&=
nbsp;quality. The <i><b>story</b></i> was someone did a cut away and the in=
ternals were inferior, implying&nbsp;that when the manufacturing was offsho=
red either the spec differed or those manufacturing took liberties. And the=
 trouble was, looking from the outside, everything looked the same. No idea=
 of what made them do the cut away.</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" cl=
ass=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default">All that said, I don't want to malign an=
yone without evidence, this is all hear-say.&nbsp;(I was looking to FOT for=
 experience), maybe I can get Bob-is-the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. Me=
anwhile I have two on the shelf from Mann &amp; Hummel (a German co) mfg in=
 NC and these were about $10 per.</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" clas=
s=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default">Cheers</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;=
" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default">Brian</div><div style=3D"font-size:l=
arge;" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div>=
<br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv9423661948yqt34965" class=3D"yiv9423661948=
yqt8645595656"><div class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_quote yiv9423661948gmail_qu=
ote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_attr">On Thu, J=
an 2, 2025 at 2:20=E2=80=AFAM Ken Hollar &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener no=
referrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv9423661948=
gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Wix 51516 that I bu=
y from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.&nbsp; The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly m=
ade by Wix is also make in Mexico.&nbsp; I used to be in the oil filter bus=
iness.&nbsp; The country of origin has to be on the product.&nbsp;&nbsp;</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Oil filters a=
re made in many countries.&nbsp; My son-in-law bought an oil filter for his=
 Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.&nbsp; They sho=
uld be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.&nbsp; I bought a 5/16 in universal fuel =
filter once made in Russia of all places.&nbsp; I used to sell fuel filters=
 made in Israel.&nbsp; Check the country of origin when buying all automoti=
ve products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them =
or not.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Goo=
d Luck.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Ken Hollar</div><div dir=3D"ltr">408-655-7569</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                        On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, B=
rian Schirano via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"yiv9423661948m_-7183230183964405108ydpf0e2a=
4e0yiv0099435152"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font=
-size:large;">Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;">Take a loo=
k at the quick search&nbsp;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dwix+5151=
5r&amp;num=3D10&amp;newwindow=3D1&amp;client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&amp;sca_esv=3D=
75a9c45cc36bf744&amp;sxsrf=3DADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A173577158=
6753&amp;ei=3DwsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&amp;oq=3Dwix+5&amp;gs_lp=3DEgxnd3Mtd2=
l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5QQYi=
gUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUEMggQLhiABBjl=
BDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqgEDMS45uAEByAE=
A-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICBhAAGAcYHsICCx=
AuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBA=
ZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&amp;sclient=3Dgws-wiz-serp">of p=
rices on the Wix 51515R filters</a> $10.79 to $19.97</div><div style=3D"fon=
t-size:large;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;">I w=
as talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came from,=
 or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China and =
when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=
=3D"font-size:large;">Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you&nbsp=
;using?</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
style=3D"font-size:large;">Brian</div><span>-- </span><br clear=3D"none"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian Schirano<div>585-305-0349</div></div>=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Mann &amp; Hummel now owns WIx, hence the m=
anufacturing in NC.<div>Phil&nbsp;<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Jan 2, 2025, at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM, David Gott via Fot &lt;fot@=
autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSetting=
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Hi Brian,<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve noticed a couple of different WIX 5=
1516, which appear to be made differently, (inlet hole and valve flap materi=
al differences) and it was the manufacturing country indicating the differen=
ce=E2=80=A6. Although I didn=E2=80=99t have an issue with either. &nbsp;Wix d=
oes specify the microns they will filter down to, so I suppose we have to tr=
ust that they are all manufactured to the =E2=80=9Csame=E2=80=9D specificati=
ons on the parts that matter. &nbsp;But, I know that sounds like a crazy lea=
p of faith. &nbsp;(LOL)</div><div><br></div><div>I also cut apart my filters=
 to examine what=E2=80=99s going on; I haven=E2=80=99t found anything concer=
ning about the filter (or my engine - yay) yet.</div><div><br></div><div>Hop=
e that helps!</div><div>Dave Gott<br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature" s=
tyle=3D""><a style=3D"font-size:12px" href=3D"https://mail.onelink.me/107872=
968?pid=3Dnativeplacement&amp;c=3DGlobal_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_Emai=
lSignature&amp;af_sub1=3DAcquisition&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YMktg&amp;af_sub3=3D=
&amp;af_sub4=3D100000604&amp;af_sub5=3DEmailSignature__Static_">Sent from Ya=
hoo Mail for iPhone</a><br></div><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D=
"font-size: 15px; color: rgb(113, 95, 250); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0=
px;">On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 6:58 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot &lt;fot@a=
utox.team.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail" style=3D""><div i=
d=3D"yiv9423661948"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:large;" cl=
ass=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default">Thanks for the responses Guys</div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default">Country of or=
igin really doesn't bother me until it impacts&nbsp;quality. The <i><b>story=
</b></i> was someone did a cut away and the internals were inferior, implyin=
g&nbsp;that when the manufacturing was offshored either the spec differed or=
 those manufacturing took liberties. And the trouble was, looking from the o=
utside, everything looked the same. No idea of what made them do the cut awa=
y.</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default"=
>All that said, I don't want to malign anyone without evidence, this is all h=
ear-say.&nbsp;(I was looking to FOT for experience), maybe I can get Bob-is-=
the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. Meanwhile I have two on the shelf from M=
ann &amp; Hummel (a German co) mfg in NC and these were about $10 per.</div>=
<div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default">Cheers<=
/div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default">Br=
ian</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default=
"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv9423661948=
yqt34965" class=3D"yiv9423661948yqt8645595656"><div class=3D"yiv9423661948gm=
ail_quote yiv9423661948gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv9=
423661948gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:20=E2=80=AFAM Ken Hollar &lt;<=
a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:krho=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">krholla=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
;" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helveti=
ca, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Wix 51516 that I buy f=
rom Moss Motors is made in Mexico.&nbsp; The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly made b=
y Wix is also make in Mexico.&nbsp; I used to be in the oil filter business.=
&nbsp; The country of origin has to be on the product.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Oil filters are made i=
n many countries.&nbsp; My son-in-law bought an oil filter for his Porsche C=
ayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.&nbsp; They should be made=
 my Mann or Malhe, etc.&nbsp; I bought a 5/16 in universal fuel filter once m=
ade in Russia of all places.&nbsp; I used to sell fuel filters made in Israe=
l.&nbsp; Check the country of origin when buying all automotive products and=
 then make your determination as to if you want to buy them or not.</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Good Luck.&nbsp;&nbs=
p;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ken Holla=
r</div><div dir=3D"ltr">408-655-7569</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none=
"></div>
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                        On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, Br=
ian Schirano via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"re=
ct" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:f=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"yiv9423661948m_-7183230183964405108ydpf0e2a4=
e0yiv0099435152"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-s=
ize:large;">Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;">Take a look at=
 the quick search&nbsp;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dwix+51515r&amp=
;num=3D10&amp;newwindow=3D1&amp;client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&amp;sca_esv=3D75a9c45=
cc36bf744&amp;sxsrf=3DADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A1735771586753&amp=
;ei=3DwsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&amp;oq=3Dwix+5&amp;gs_lp=3DEgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnA=
iBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5QQYigUyDhAuGIA=
EGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUEMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQ=
Y5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqgEDMS45uAEByAEA-AEBmAILoAK=
SLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICBhAAGAcYHsICCxAuGOUEGAcYChg=
ewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBgg=
BEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&amp;sclient=3Dgws-wiz-serp">of prices on the Wi=
x 51515R filters</a> $10.79 to $19.97</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;"><=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;">I was talking with s=
omeone about this and who knows where the story came from, or accuracy, but t=
he net net was they are allegedly now made in China and when cut away, no lo=
nger the same quality as in the past.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"=
font-size:large;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;">Fa=
ct or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you&nbsp;using?</div><div style=3D=
"font-size:large;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;">=
Brian</div><span>-- </span><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Brian Schirano<div>585-305-0349</div></div></div></div>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">It=E2=80=99s important to remember that not=
 all of the oil goes through the filter. There is a bypass valve in the filt=
er (as well as in the original lube system on the wet sleeve engine) that by=
passes the filter if there is a modest or greater oil pressure drop across t=
he filter. This usually happens when the oil is cold and/or the engine runni=
ng at high speed.<div><br></div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignatu=
re"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite">On Jan 2, 2025, at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM, David Gott via Fot &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSet=
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Hi Brian,<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve noticed a couple of different WIX 5=
1516, which appear to be made differently, (inlet hole and valve flap materi=
al differences) and it was the manufacturing country indicating the differen=
ce=E2=80=A6. Although I didn=E2=80=99t have an issue with either. &nbsp;Wix d=
oes specify the microns they will filter down to, so I suppose we have to tr=
ust that they are all manufactured to the =E2=80=9Csame=E2=80=9D specificati=
ons on the parts that matter. &nbsp;But, I know that sounds like a crazy lea=
p of faith. &nbsp;(LOL)</div><div><br></div><div>I also cut apart my filters=
 to examine what=E2=80=99s going on; I haven=E2=80=99t found anything concer=
ning about the filter (or my engine - yay) yet.</div><div><br></div><div>Hop=
e that helps!</div><div>Dave Gott<br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature" s=
tyle=3D""><a style=3D"font-size:12px" href=3D"https://mail.onelink.me/107872=
968?pid=3Dnativeplacement&amp;c=3DGlobal_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_Emai=
lSignature&amp;af_sub1=3DAcquisition&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YMktg&amp;af_sub3=3D=
&amp;af_sub4=3D100000604&amp;af_sub5=3DEmailSignature__Static_">Sent from Ya=
hoo Mail for iPhone</a><br></div><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D=
"font-size: 15px; color: rgb(113, 95, 250); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0=
px;">On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 6:58 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot &lt;fot@a=
utox.team.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail" style=3D""><div i=
d=3D"yiv9423661948"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:large;" cl=
ass=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default">Thanks for the responses Guys</div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default">Country of or=
igin really doesn't bother me until it impacts&nbsp;quality. The <i><b>story=
</b></i> was someone did a cut away and the internals were inferior, implyin=
g&nbsp;that when the manufacturing was offshored either the spec differed or=
 those manufacturing took liberties. And the trouble was, looking from the o=
utside, everything looked the same. No idea of what made them do the cut awa=
y.</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv9423661948gmail_default"=

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What=E2=80=99s the difference between the 51515 and 51515R?=C2=A0
My Sunbeam Tiger uses the 51515 and it=E2=80=99s convenient to have to only=
 one filter for both that and the Triumph.=C2=A051335 is the short version =
that some use on the Tigers=C2=A0to avoid=C2=A0oil line leaks when headers =
aren=E2=80=99t involved.=C2=A0

Happy New Year,=C2=A0

Rick McCurdy

Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS

On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 7:38 AM, David Gott via Fot <[email-masked]=
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dy>
What=E2=80=99s the difference between the 51515 and 51515R?&nbsp;<div><br><=
/div><div>My Sunbeam Tiger uses the 51515 and it=E2=80=99s convenient to ha=
ve to only one filter for both that and the Triumph.&nbsp;51335 is the shor=
t version that some use on the Tigers&nbsp;to avoid&nbsp;oil line leaks whe=
n headers aren=E2=80=99t involved.&nbsp;<br><br>Happy New Year,&nbsp;</div>=
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Rick McCurdy<br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-=
signature"><a style=3D"font-size:12px" href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/ap=
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or iOS</a><br></div><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size:=
 15px; color: rgb(132, 115, 255); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;">On T=
hursday, January 2, 2025, 7:38 AM, David Gott via Fot &lt;[email-masked]=
t&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv5906465989"><d=
iv>
Hi Brian,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve noticed a couple o=
f different WIX 51516, which appear to be made differently, (inlet hole and=
 valve flap material differences) and it was the manufacturing country indi=
cating the difference=E2=80=A6. Although I didn=E2=80=99t have an issue wit=
h either. &nbsp;Wix does specify the microns they will filter down to, so I=
 suppose we have to trust that they are all manufactured to the =E2=80=9Csa=
me=E2=80=9D specifications on the parts that matter. &nbsp;But, I know that=
 sounds like a crazy leap of faith. &nbsp;(LOL)</div><div><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div>I also cut apart my filters to examine what=E2=80=99s going on=
; I haven=E2=80=99t found anything concerning about the filter (or my engin=
e - yay) yet.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Hope that helps!</div=
><div>Dave Gott<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><di=
v style=3D"" class=3D"yiv5906465989yahoo-signature"><a rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" style=3D"font-size:12px;" target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3Dnativeplacement&amp;c=3DGl=
obal_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&amp;af_sub1=3DAcquisitio=
n&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YMktg&amp;af_sub3=3D&amp;af_sub4=3D100000604&amp;af_=
sub5=3DEmailSignature__Static_">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv5906465989yqt93099" class=
=3D"yiv5906465989yqt9165729930"><p style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: rgb(132=
, 115, 255); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;" class=3D"yiv5906465989yah=
oo-quoted-begin">On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 6:58 AM, Brian Schirano via =
Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote style=3D"" class=3D"yi=
v5906465989iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv5906465989"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div s=
tyle=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv5906465989gmail_default">Thanks for t=
he responses Guys</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"yiv59064659=
89gmail_default">Country of origin really doesn't bother me until it impact=
s&nbsp;quality. The <i><b>story</b></i> was someone did a cut away and the =
internals were inferior, implying&nbsp;that when the manufacturing was offs=
hored either the spec differed or those manufacturing took liberties. And t=
he trouble was, looking from the outside, everything looked the same. No id=
ea of what made them do the cut away.</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" =
class=3D"yiv5906465989gmail_default">All that said, I don't want to malign =
anyone without evidence, this is all hear-say.&nbsp;(I was looking to FOT f=
or experience), maybe I can get Bob-is-the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. =
Meanwhile I have two on the shelf from Mann &amp; Hummel (a German co) mfg =
in NC and these were about $10 per.</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" cl=
ass=3D"yiv5906465989gmail_default">Cheers</div><div style=3D"font-size:larg=
e;" class=3D"yiv5906465989gmail_default">Brian</div><div style=3D"font-size=
:large;" class=3D"yiv5906465989gmail_default"><br clear=3D"none"></div></di=
v><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv5906465989yqt34965" class=3D"yiv59064659=
89yqt8645595656"><div class=3D"yiv5906465989gmail_quote yiv5906465989gmail_=
quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv5906465989gmail_attr">On Thu,=
 Jan 2, 2025 at 2:20=E2=80=AFAM Ken Hollar &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener =
noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv59064659=
89gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;=
font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Wix 51516 that I bu=
y from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.&nbsp; The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly m=
ade by Wix is also make in Mexico.&nbsp; I used to be in the oil filter bus=
iness.&nbsp; The country of origin has to be on the product.&nbsp;&nbsp;</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Oil filters a=
re made in many countries.&nbsp; My son-in-law bought an oil filter for his=
 Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.&nbsp; They sho=
uld be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.&nbsp; I bought a 5/16 in universal fuel =
filter once made in Russia of all places.&nbsp; I used to sell fuel filters=
 made in Israel.&nbsp; Check the country of origin when buying all automoti=
ve products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them =
or not.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Goo=
d Luck.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Ken Hollar</div><div dir=3D"ltr">408-655-7569</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                        On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, B=
rian Schirano via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
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                    <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"yiv5906465989m_-7183230183964405108ydpf0e2a=
4e0yiv0099435152"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font=
-size:large;">Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;">Take a loo=
k at the quick search&nbsp;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dwix+5151=
5r&amp;num=3D10&amp;newwindow=3D1&amp;client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&amp;sca_esv=3D=
75a9c45cc36bf744&amp;sxsrf=3DADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A173577158=
6753&amp;ei=3DwsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&amp;oq=3Dwix+5&amp;gs_lp=3DEgxnd3Mtd2=
l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5QQYi=
gUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUEMggQLhiABBjl=
BDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqgEDMS45uAEByAE=
A-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICBhAAGAcYHsICCx=
AuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBA=
ZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&amp;sclient=3Dgws-wiz-serp">of p=
rices on the Wix 51515R filters</a> $10.79 to $19.97</div><div style=3D"fon=
t-size:large;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;">I w=
as talking with someone about this and who knows where the story came from,=
 or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China and =
when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past.<br clear=3D"none"=
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 I Googled it and learned that they also make Purolator filters..
Bob Kramer

On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 7:59=E2=80=AFAM Philip Gott via Fot <[email-masked].=
net>
wrote:

> Mann & Hummel now owns WIx, hence the manufacturing in NC.
> Phil
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 2, 2025, at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM, David Gott via Fot <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF Hi Brian,
>
> I=E2=80=99ve noticed a couple of different WIX 51516, which appear to be =
made
> differently, (inlet hole and valve flap material differences) and it was
> the manufacturing country indicating the difference=E2=80=A6. Although I =
didn=E2=80=99t
> have an issue with either.  Wix does specify the microns they will filter
> down to, so I suppose we have to trust that they are all manufactured to
> the =E2=80=9Csame=E2=80=9D specifications on the parts that matter.  But,=
 I know that
> sounds like a crazy leap of faith.  (LOL)
>
> I also cut apart my filters to examine what=E2=80=99s going on; I haven=
=E2=80=99t found
> anything concerning about the filter (or my engine - yay) yet.
>
> Hope that helps!
> Dave Gott
>
>
> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3Dnativeplacement&c=3DGlobal_Acqui=
sition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=3DAcquisition&af_sub2=3DGl=
obal_YMktg&af_sub3=3D&af_sub4=3D100000604&af_sub5=3DEmailSignature__Static_=
>
>
> On Thursday, January 2, 2025, 6:58 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot <
> implying that when the manufacturing was offshored either the spec differ=
ed
> All that said, I don't want to malign anyone without evidence, this is al=
l
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:20=E2=80=AFAM Ken Hollar <[email-masked]> wr=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=C2=A0I Googled it and learned that they also make Pu=
rolator filters..</div><div><img src=3D"cid:ii_m5ff9z7u0" alt=3D"image.png"=
 width=3D"430" height=3D"226"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer=
</div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_conta=
iner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 7:59=E2=
=80=AFAM Philip Gott via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Mann &amp; Hummel now owns WIx, hence the m=
anufacturing in NC.<div>Phil=C2=A0<br id=3D"m_2065353548362767125lineBreakA=
tBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 2, 2025, at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM, =
David Gott via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
Hi Brian,<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve noticed a couple of different WIX=
 51516, which appear to be made differently, (inlet hole and valve flap mat=
erial differences) and it was the manufacturing country indicating the diff=
erence=E2=80=A6. Although I didn=E2=80=99t have an issue with either.=C2=A0=
 Wix does specify the microns they will filter down to, so I suppose we hav=
e to trust that they are all manufactured to the =E2=80=9Csame=E2=80=9D spe=
cifications on the parts that matter.=C2=A0 But, I know that sounds like a =
crazy leap of faith. =C2=A0(LOL)</div><div><br></div><div>I also cut apart =
my filters to examine what=E2=80=99s going on; I haven=E2=80=99t found anyt=
hing concerning about the filter (or my engine - yay) yet.</div><div><br></=
div><div>Hope that helps!</div><div>Dave Gott<br><br><br><div><a style=3D"f=
ont-size:12px" href=3D"https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3Dnativeplacem=
ent&amp;c=3DGlobal_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&amp;af_sub=
1=3DAcquisition&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YMktg&amp;af_sub3=3D&amp;af_sub4=3D100=
000604&amp;af_sub5=3DEmailSignature__Static_" target=3D"_blank">Sent from Y=
ahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br></div><br><p style=3D"font-size:15px;color:rgb(=
113,95,250);padding-top:15px;margin-top:0px">On Thursday, January 2, 2025, =
6:58 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote><div id=
=3D"m_2065353548362767125yiv9423661948"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D=
"font-size:large">Thanks for the responses Guys</div><div style=3D"font-siz=
e:large">Country of origin really doesn&#39;t bother me until it impacts=C2=
=A0quality. The <i><b>story</b></i> was someone did a cut away and the inte=
rnals were inferior, implying=C2=A0that when the manufacturing was offshore=
d either the spec differed or those manufacturing took liberties. And the t=
rouble was, looking from the outside, everything looked the same. No idea o=
f what made them do the cut away.</div><div style=3D"font-size:large">All t=
hat said, I don&#39;t want to malign anyone without evidence, this is all h=
ear-say.=C2=A0(I was looking to FOT for experience), maybe I can get Bob-is=
-the-oil-guy to peel a couple apart. Meanwhile I have two on the shelf from=
 Mann &amp; Hummel (a German co) mfg in NC and these were about $10 per.</d=
iv><div style=3D"font-size:large">Cheers</div><div style=3D"font-size:large=
">Brian</div><div style=3D"font-size:large"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div>=
<br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"m_2065353548362767125yiv9423661948yqt34965"><=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:20=E2=80=AFAM Ken Hollar &lt;=
<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:krhol=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:=
Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Wix 51516 that I bu=
y from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.=C2=A0 The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly m=
ade by Wix is also make in Mexico.=C2=A0 I used to be in the oil filter bus=
iness.=C2=A0 The country of origin has to be on the product.=C2=A0=C2=A0</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Oil filters a=
re made in many countries.=C2=A0 My son-in-law bought an oil filter for his=
 Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.=C2=A0 They sho=
uld be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.=C2=A0 I bought a 5/16 in universal fuel =
filter once made in Russia of all places.=C2=A0 I used to sell fuel filters=
 made in Israel.=C2=A0 Check the country of origin when buying all automoti=
ve products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them =
or not.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Goo=
d Luck.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Ken Hollar</div><div dir=3D"ltr">408-655-7569</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                        On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, B=
rian Schirano via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
                    <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"m_2065353548362767125yiv9423661948m_-718323=
0183964405108ydpf0e2a4e0yiv0099435152"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv><div style=3D"font-size:large">Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Y=
ear!<br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div style=3D"font-siz=
e:large">Take a look at the quick search=C2=A0<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener n=
oreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dwix+515=
15r&amp;num=3D10&amp;newwindow=3D1&amp;client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&amp;sca_esv=
=3D75a9c45cc36bf744&amp;sxsrf=3DADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A173577=
1586753&amp;ei=3DwsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&amp;oq=3Dwix+5&amp;gs_lp=3DEgxnd3M=
td2l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5Q=
QYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUEMggQLhiAB=
BjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqgEDMS45uAEB=
yAEA-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICBhAAGAcYHsI=
CCxAuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBN=
gBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&amp;sclient=3Dgws-wiz-serp" t=
arget=3D"_blank">of prices on the Wix 51515R filters</a> $10.79 to $19.97</=
div><div style=3D"font-size:large"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"f=
ont-size:large">I was talking with someone about this and who knows where t=
he story came from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now=
 made in China and when cut away, no longer the same quality as in the past=
.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large"><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div style=3D"font-size:large">Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and w=
hat are you=C2=A0using?</div><div style=3D"font-size:large"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large">Brian</div><span>-- </span><br cle=
ar=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian Schirano<div>585-305-03=
49</div></div></div></div>
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 15:53:28 +0000 (UTC)

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 Engine Masters on Motor Trend TV did an episode where they tested various =
oil filters and how they affected HP and oil pressure/flow.=C2=A0 As I reca=
ll, the R filters made negligible difference in HP.=C2=A0 As a result I con=
tinued the use Wix Gold filters that were not R.=C2=A0 I last bought Wix Go=
ld 51515 filters in early 2024 and have not noticed any difference in const=
ruction when I open each of them up.=C2=A0 JoeB
    On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 02:37:22 AM EST, Ken Hollar via Fot <fo=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
  Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:
The Wix 51516 that I buy from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.=C2=A0 The Napa=
 Gold 1516 supposedly made by Wix is also make in Mexico.=C2=A0 I used to b=
e in the oil filter business.=C2=A0 The country of origin has to be on the =
product.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Oil filters are made in many countries.=C2=A0 My son-in-law bought an oil f=
ilter for his Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.=
=C2=A0 They should be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.=C2=A0 I bought a 5/16 in =
universal fuel filter once made in Russia of all places.=C2=A0 I used to se=
ll fuel filters made in Israel.=C2=A0 Check the country of origin when buyi=
ng all automotive products and then make your determination as to if you wa=
nt to buy them or not.
Good Luck.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Ken Hollar408-655-7569
    On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, Brian Schirano via Fo=
t <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px=
;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Engine Masters on Motor Tren=
d TV did an episode where they tested various oil filters and how they affe=
cted HP and oil pressure/flow.&nbsp; As I recall, the R filters made neglig=
ible difference in HP.&nbsp; As a result I continued the use Wix Gold filte=
rs that were not R.&nbsp; I last bought Wix Gold 51515 filters in early 202=
4 and have not noticed any difference in construction when I open each of t=
hem up.&nbsp; JoeB</div><div><br></div>
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        <div id=3D"ydp64b7a9ddyahoo_quoted_6434878590" class=3D"ydp64b7a9dd=
yahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;">
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                <div>
                    On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 02:37:22 AM EST, Ken Ho=
llar via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp64b7a9ddyiv7377711443"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px=
;" class=3D"ydp64b7a9ddyiv7377711443ydp68a11c5eyahoo-style-wrap"><div></div=
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hello All Tractor Engine Enthusiasts:</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Wix 51516 that I bu=
y from Moss Motors is made in Mexico.&nbsp; The Napa Gold 1516 supposedly m=
ade by Wix is also make in Mexico.&nbsp; I used to be in the oil filter bus=
iness.&nbsp; The country of origin has to be on the product.&nbsp;&nbsp;</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Oil filters a=
re made in many countries.&nbsp; My son-in-law bought an oil filter for his=
 Porsche Cayenne from Autozone that was make in South Korea.&nbsp; They sho=
uld be made my Mann or Malhe, etc.&nbsp; I bought a 5/16 in universal fuel =
filter once made in Russia of all places.&nbsp; I used to sell fuel filters=
 made in Israel.&nbsp; Check the country of origin when buying all automoti=
ve products and then make your determination as to if you want to buy them =
or not.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Goo=
d Luck.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Ken Hollar</div><div dir=3D"ltr">408-655-7569</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydp64b7a9ddyiv7377711443ydpf0e2a4e0yahoo_quoted_61=
70494052" class=3D"ydp64b7a9ddyiv7377711443ydpf0e2a4e0yahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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b7a9ddyiv7377711443yqt2362051954"><div>
                        On Wednesday, January 1, 2025 at 05:22:31 PM PST, B=
rian Schirano via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
                    <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                    <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp64b7a9ddyiv7377711443ydpf0e2a4e0yiv00994=
35152"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-size:large=
;" class=3D"ydp64b7a9ddyiv7377711443ydpf0e2a4e0yiv0099435152gmail_default">=
Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!<br clear=3D"none"></div><br c=
lear=3D"all"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydp64b7a9ddyiv7=
377711443ydpf0e2a4e0yiv0099435152gmail_default">Take a look at the quick se=
arch&nbsp;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dwix+5=
1515r&amp;num=3D10&amp;newwindow=3D1&amp;client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&amp;sca_esv=
=3D75a9c45cc36bf744&amp;sxsrf=3DADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A173577=
1586753&amp;ei=3DwsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&amp;oq=3Dwix+5&amp;gs_lp=3DEgxnd3M=
td2l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4YgAQYkQIY5Q=
QYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUEMggQLhiAB=
BjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqgEDMS45uAEB=
yAEA-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICBhAAGAcYHsI=
CCxAuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBN=
gBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&amp;sclient=3Dgws-wiz-serp" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">of prices on the Wix 51515R filters</a> $=
10.79 to $19.97</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydp64b7a9ddyi=
v7377711443ydpf0e2a4e0yiv0099435152gmail_default"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydp64b7a9ddyiv7377711443ydpf0e2a4e=
0yiv0099435152gmail_default">I was talking with someone about this and who =
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Since the group that owned WIX was purchased by Mann Hummel, it seems that
many of the previously USA made filter part numbers have been offshored.

The most common filters I was using on Triumphs were the 51348 and the
51516, both are no longer made in the USA.  I can't say that the Mexico or
China sourced filters are causing engine failures, but it made me feel good
to be using a quality, American made filter.

For the 51348 and 51516 sizes, I've found that the Champ brand PH2835 and
PH400 work just fine, and are made domestically.

I don't feel that our typical Triumph engines need the extra flow
capability of the "R" filters, I suspect that is more of a concern for
large V8 engines with big bearing clearances.

The spin-on adapter that we have developed for the 6 cylinder engines
(places the filter in the same location as the original filter housing)
allows for a larger diameter filter to be used.  I've found the WIX 51311
is a good one, and it's still made in North Carolina.  This is a 3/4-16"
thread filter, a little shorter than the 51515.  The 51311 will also fit
many of the remote mounts, and as it's used on Volvo Trucks and buses, I
have no doubt it is of sufficient size for a Triumph engine.

Jason Sukey
JS Performance Motoring, LLC
440.984.7720
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Since the group that owned WIX was purchased by Mann =
Hummel, it seems that many of the previously USA made filter=C2=A0part=C2=
=A0numbers have been offshored.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>The mo=
st common filters I was using on Triumphs were the 51348 and the 51516, bot=
h are no longer=C2=A0made in the USA.=C2=A0 I can&#39;t say that the Mexico=
 or China sourced filters are causing engine failures, but it made me feel =
good to be using a quality, American made filter.</div><div><br></div><div>=
For the 51348 and 51516 sizes, I&#39;ve found that the Champ brand PH2835 a=
nd PH400 work just fine, and are made domestically.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>I don&#39;t feel that our typical Triumph engines need the extra flow cap=
ability of the &quot;R&quot; filters, I suspect that is more of a concern f=
or large V8 engines with big bearing clearances.</div><div><br></div><div>T=
he spin-on adapter that we have developed=C2=A0for the 6 cylinder engines (=
places the filter in the same location as the original filter housing) allo=
ws for a larger diameter filter to be used.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve found the WIX 51=
311 is a good one, and it&#39;s still made in North Carolina.=C2=A0 This is=
 a 3/4-16&quot; thread filter, a little shorter than the=C2=A051515.=C2=A0 =
The 51311 will also fit many of the remote mounts, and as it&#39;s used on =
Volvo Trucks and buses, I have no=C2=A0doubt it is of sufficient size for a=
 Triumph engine.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jason Sukey</div><div><span></span><span></span>JS Perf=
ormance Motoring, LLC<br></div><div>440.984.7720</div><div><a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">jason@jsperformancemot=
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ng/</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>=
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 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 8:10=E2=80=AFPM Brian Schirano=
 via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gm=
ail_default">Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!<br></div><br cle=
ar=3D"all"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Tak=
e a look at the quick search=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?=
q=3Dwix+51515r&amp;num=3D10&amp;newwindow=3D1&amp;client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&am=
p;sca_esv=3D75a9c45cc36bf744&amp;sxsrf=3DADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZPg=
%3A1735771586753&amp;ei=3DwsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&amp;oq=3Dwix+5&amp;gs_lp=
=3DEgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4Y=
gAQYkQIY5QQYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOU=
EMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqg=
EDMS45uAEByAEA-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICB=
hAAGAcYHsICCxAuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjc=
BBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&amp;sclient=3Dgws-w=
iz-serp" target=3D"_blank">of prices on the Wix 51515R filters</a> $10.79 t=
o $19.97</div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></=
div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I was talking wi=
th someone about this and who knows where the story came from, or accuracy,=
 but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China and when cut away=
, no longer the same quality as in the past.<br></div><div style=3D"font-si=
ze:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:large" =
class=3D"gmail_default">Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you=C2=
=A0using?</div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br><=
/div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Brian</div><spa=
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 The oil filter shootout was Season 6, episode 5 of Engine Masters.=C2=A0 I=
 just watched it again.=C2=A0 Filters made no difference in HP.=C2=A0 They =
even tried no filter, with no HP difference.=C2=A0 The top 3 flowing (of th=
e 3/4-16 threaded filters) were K&N Gold, Wix and Wix Racing.=C2=A0 The K&N=
 had then best micron rating at 10 microns.=C2=A0 Wix racing filter has 60 =
micron rating and the regular Wix is 20 micron.=C2=A0 Wix 51515 and 51515R =
are 3/4-16 threaded filters.=C2=A0=C2=A0
This aired in December 2021, thus does not take into account any recent cha=
nges by the manufacturers.=C2=A0=C2=A0JoeB
    On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:09:49 AM EST, Joe Boruch via Fot <fo=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
  Engine Masters on Motor Trend TV did an episode where they tested various=
 oil filters and how they affected HP and oil pressure/flow.=C2=A0 As I rec=
all, the R filters made negligible difference in HP.=C2=A0 As a result I co=
ntinued the use Wix Gold filters that were not R.=C2=A0 I last bought Wix G=
old 51515 filters in early 2024 and have not noticed any difference in cons=
truction when I open each of them up.=C2=A0 JoeB
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The oil filter shootout was =
Season 6, episode 5 of Engine Masters.&nbsp; I just watched it again.&nbsp;=
 Filters made no difference in HP.&nbsp; They even tried no filter, with no=
 HP difference.&nbsp; The top 3 flowing (of the 3/4-16 threaded filters) we=
re K&amp;N Gold, Wix and Wix Racing.&nbsp; The K&amp;N had then best micron=
 rating at 10 microns.&nbsp; Wix racing filter has 60 micron rating and the=
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ilters.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><=
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ruch via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">Engine Masters on Motor Trend TV did an episode wh=
ere they tested various oil filters and how they affected HP and oil pressu=
re/flow.&nbsp; As I recall, the R filters made negligible difference in HP.=
&nbsp; As a result I continued the use Wix Gold filters that were not R.&nb=
sp; I last bought Wix Gold 51515 filters in early 2024 and have not noticed=
 any difference in construction when I open each of them up.&nbsp; JoeB</di=
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I buy the Wix 51515R filters by the 6 pack case online. My last order, Oct
2024, has all the filters manufactured in the US (you need to look at the
actual filter, not the box). One thing I have noticed over the past two
years or so is the filter housing seems thinner, it's easy to deform it
with a strap type wrench taking them off. Other than that, I haven't had
any problems with them. I never had a Fram Orange Can of Death fail either
but a YouTube video with side by side comparisons of the internals
convinced me to switch to Wix.

my 2 cents

mike

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> 51516, both are no longer made in the USA.  I can't say that the Mexico o=
r
> China sourced filters are causing engine failures, but it made me feel go=
od
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 8:10=E2=80=AFPM Brian Schirano via Fot <fot@autox.=
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kb6R9YtaznQZPg%3A1735771586753&ei=3DwsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&oq=3Dwix+5&gs_l=
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cBBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&sclient=3Dgws-wiz-=
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>> from, or accuracy, but the net net was they are allegedly now made in Ch=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I buy the Wix 51515R filters by the 6 pack case online. My=
 last order, Oct 2024, has all the filters manufactured in the US (you need=
 to look at the actual filter, not the box). One thing I have noticed over =
the past two years or so is the filter housing seems thinner, it&#39;s easy=
 to deform it with a strap type wrench taking them off. Other than that, I =
haven&#39;t had any problems with them. I never had a Fram=C2=A0Orange Can =
of Death fail either but a YouTube video with side by side comparisons of t=
he internals convinced me to switch to Wix.<div><br></div><div>my 2 cents</=
div><div><br></div><div>mike</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail=
_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 2, 2025=
 at 1:57=E2=80=AFPM JS Performance Motoring, LLC via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Since the g=
roup that owned WIX was purchased by Mann Hummel, it seems that many of the=
 previously USA made filter=C2=A0part=C2=A0numbers have been offshored.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>The most common filters I was using on T=
riumphs were the 51348 and the 51516, both are no longer=C2=A0made in the U=
SA.=C2=A0 I can&#39;t say that the Mexico or China sourced filters are caus=
ing engine failures, but it made me feel good to be using a quality, Americ=
an made filter.</div><div><br></div><div>For the 51348 and 51516 sizes, I&#=
39;ve found that the Champ brand PH2835 and PH400 work just fine, and are m=
ade domestically.</div><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t feel that our typica=
l Triumph engines need the extra flow capability of the &quot;R&quot; filte=
rs, I suspect that is more of a concern for large V8 engines with big beari=
ng clearances.</div><div><br></div><div>The spin-on adapter that we have de=
veloped=C2=A0for the 6 cylinder engines (places the filter in the same loca=
tion as the original filter housing) allows for a larger diameter filter to=
 be used.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve found the WIX 51311 is a good one, and it&#39;s st=
ill made in North Carolina.=C2=A0 This is a 3/4-16&quot; thread filter, a l=
ittle shorter than the=C2=A051515.=C2=A0 The 51311 will also fit many of th=
e remote mounts, and as it&#39;s used on Volvo Trucks and buses, I have no=
=C2=A0doubt it is of sufficient size for a Triumph engine.</div><div><br></=
div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jason Sukey</div><div><span></span><span></span>JS=
 Performance Motoring, LLC<br></div><div>440.984.7720</div><div><a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">jason@jsperforman=
cemotoring.com</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/JSPerf=
ormanceMotoring/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/JSPerformanceM=
otoring/</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 8:10=E2=80=AFPM Brian Schirano via Fot &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"g=
mail_default">Ok Dudes and Dudetts - first, Happy New Year!<br></div><br cl=
ear=3D"all"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Ta=
ke a look at the quick search=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.google.com/search=
?q=3Dwix+51515r&amp;num=3D10&amp;newwindow=3D1&amp;client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&a=
mp;sca_esv=3D75a9c45cc36bf744&amp;sxsrf=3DADLYWILt1shNlTdSLhRvkb6R9YtaznQZP=
g%3A1735771586753&amp;ei=3DwsV1Z4LWLfTfwN4Ppd25gQU&amp;oq=3Dwix+5&amp;gs_lp=
=3DEgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiBXdpeCA1KgIIATIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIKECMYgAQYJxiKBTIOEC4Y=
gAQYkQIY5QQYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGOUEGIoFMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOU=
EMggQLhiABBjlBDIIEC4YgAQY5QQyCBAuGIAEGOUESNlZUJUGWIhFcAF4AJABAJgBsQGgAZwJqg=
EDMS45uAEByAEA-AEBmAILoAKSLMICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAggQIRigARjDBMICB=
hAAGAcYHsICCxAuGOUEGAcYChgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAh0QLhiABBiRAhjlBBiKBRiXBRjc=
BBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAboGBggBEAEYFJIHCTAuOS43LTEuMaAHlzE&amp;sclient=3Dgws-w=
iz-serp" target=3D"_blank">of prices on the Wix 51515R filters</a> $10.79 t=
o $19.97</div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></=
div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I was talking wi=
th someone about this and who knows where the story came from, or accuracy,=
 but the net net was they are allegedly now made in China and when cut away=
, no longer the same quality as in the past.<br></div><div style=3D"font-si=
ze:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:large" =
class=3D"gmail_default">Fact or Fiction?? anybody know? and what are you=C2=
=A0using?</div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br><=
/div><div style=3D"font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Brian</div><spa=
n class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian Schirano<div>585-305-0349</div></di=
v></div></div>
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