Subject: Re: [Fot] US racers heading to Mosport Tip 2

From: marty sukey via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 17:38:36 +0000

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Also, if you are crossing the border into Canada in a MH you can poses "Bea=
r Spray" but "Pepper Spray" is not permitted. After dancing around that que=
stion, crossing over was a breeze. No guns or weapons and no pepper spray. =
They did not even ask me about food.  On the food, you don't really need th=
at much. VARAC pretty much fills you full of food and beer all weekend star=
t to finish. As Henery said, it is a fantastic event!

Marty
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From: marty sukey <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2024 12:28 PM
To: FOT <[email-masked]>
Subject: US racers heading to Mosport

A tip if you are heading to Mosport with motorhome pulling a trailer and cr=
ossing into Canada from Bufalo.  I took the 407ETR back in June to avoid th=
e Toronto craziness. I saw all the signs on the 407ETR telling me that if y=
ou were over 5000kg you needed a transponder, I assumed that was for commer=
cial vehicles.  Boy was I wrong. On the toll rates for the 407ETR if you ar=
e over 5000kg and pulling a trailer, even noncommercial, that puts you into=
 "Heavy Multiple Unit Vehicles". The tolls were crazy (they mail them to yo=
u) but what I did not expect was $150 in camera fees! The fees are going up=
 in January so they will even be more. I discovered after the fact that you=
 just need to go to the 407ETR website and purchase a transponder for $30 a=
 year and save a bunch of money. I plan on being there in 2025 and 2026 so =
you can bet I will have a transponder!

Marty Sukey

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Also, if you are crossing the border into Canada in a MH you can poses &quo=
t;Bear Spray&quot; but &quot;Pepper Spray&quot; is not permitted. After dan=
cing around that question, crossing over was a breeze. No guns or weapons a=
nd no pepper spray. They did not even ask me about food.&nbsp;
 On the food, you don't really need that much. VARAC pretty much fills you =
full of food and beer all weekend start to finish. As Henery said, it is a =
fantastic event!</div>
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Marty</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> marty sukey &lt;trmar=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 3, 2024 12:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FOT &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> US racers heading to Mosport</font>
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A tip if you are heading to Mosport with motorhome pulling a trailer and cr=
ossing into Canada from Bufalo.&nbsp; I took the 407ETR back in June to avo=
id the Toronto craziness. I saw all the signs on the 407ETR telling me that=
 if you were over 5000kg you needed a
 transponder, I assumed that was for commercial vehicles.&nbsp; Boy was I w=
rong. On the toll rates for the 407ETR if you are over 5000kg and pulling a=
 trailer, even noncommercial, that puts you into &quot;Heavy Multiple Unit =
Vehicles&quot;. The tolls were crazy (they mail
 them to you) but what I did not expect was $150 in camera fees! The fees a=
re going up in January so they will even be more. I discovered after the fa=
ct that you just need to go to the 407ETR website and purchase a transponde=
r for $30 a year and save a bunch
 of money. I plan on being there in 2025 and 2026 so you can bet I will hav=
e a transponder!</div>
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From: Brian Schirano via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 14:04:15 -0500

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Nobody's mentioned the USD/CAD FX.  If there is such a thing, it would be
the "least expensive" race weekend you'll have. food and beer all weekend,
a Triumph / MG Challenge, (Henry is pretty good at winning that one.) Plus
a large fully paved paddock.

was there this year and will see you there in 25 and 26
Cheers mates
Brian
26A blue / white GT6

On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 1:16=E2=80=AFPM marty sukey via Fot <[email-masked].=
net>
wrote:

> Also, if you are crossing the border into Canada in a MH you can poses
> "Bear Spray" but "Pepper Spray" is not permitted. After dancing around th=
at
> question, crossing over was a breeze. No guns or weapons and no pepper
> spray. They did not even ask me about food.  On the food, you don't reall=
y
> need that much. VARAC pretty much fills you full of food and beer all
> weekend start to finish. As Henery said, it is a fantastic event!
>
> Marty
> ------------------------------
> *From:* marty sukey <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 3, 2024 12:28 PM
> *To:* FOT <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* US racers heading to Mosport
>
> A tip if you are heading to Mosport with motorhome pulling a trailer and
> crossing into Canada from Bufalo.  I took the 407ETR back in June to avoi=
d
> the Toronto craziness. I saw all the signs on the 407ETR telling me that =
if
> you were over 5000kg you needed a transponder, I assumed that was for
> commercial vehicles.  Boy was I wrong. On the toll rates for the 407ETR i=
f
> you are over 5000kg and pulling a trailer, even noncommercial, that puts
> you into "Heavy Multiple Unit Vehicles". The tolls were crazy (they mail
> them to you) but what I did not expect was $150 in camera fees! The fees
> are going up in January so they will even be more. I discovered after the
> fact that you just need to go to the 407ETR website and purchase a
> transponder for $30 a year and save a bunch of money. I plan on being the=
re
> in 2025 and 2026 so you can bet I will have a transponder!
>
> Marty Sukey
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Unsubscribe/Manage <http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage>:
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>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Nob=
ody&#39;s mentioned the USD/CAD FX.=C2=A0 If there is such a thing, it woul=
d be the &quot;least expensive&quot; race weekend you&#39;ll have. food and=
 beer all weekend, a Triumph / MG Challenge, (Henry is pretty good at winni=
ng that one.) Plus a large fully paved paddock.<br></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-size:large"></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-size:large">was there this year and will see you there in 25 and 26</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">
Cheers mates

</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Brian</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">26A blue / white GT6<br=
></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 1:16=E2=80=AFPM marty sukey via Fot &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg-795127=
914963896246">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Also, if you are crossing the border into Canada in a MH you can poses &quo=
t;Bear Spray&quot; but &quot;Pepper Spray&quot; is not permitted. After dan=
cing around that question, crossing over was a breeze. No guns or weapons a=
nd no pepper spray. They did not even ask me about food.=C2=A0
 On the food, you don&#39;t really need that much. VARAC pretty much fills =
you full of food and beer all weekend start to finish. As Henery said, it i=
s a fantastic event!</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Marty</div>
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libri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> =
marty sukey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tr=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 3, 2024 12:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FOT &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> US racers heading to Mosport</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>

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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
A tip if you are heading to Mosport with motorhome pulling a trailer and cr=
ossing into Canada from Bufalo.=C2=A0 I took the 407ETR back in June to avo=
id the Toronto craziness. I saw all the signs on the 407ETR telling me that=
 if you were over 5000kg you needed a
 transponder, I assumed that was for commercial vehicles.=C2=A0 Boy was I w=
rong. On the toll rates for the 407ETR if you are over 5000kg and pulling a=
 trailer, even noncommercial, that puts you into &quot;Heavy Multiple Unit =
Vehicles&quot;. The tolls were crazy (they mail
 them to you) but what I did not expect was $150 in camera fees! The fees a=
re going up in January so they will even be more. I discovered after the fa=
ct that you just need to go to the 407ETR website and purchase a transponde=
r for $30 a year and save a bunch
 of money. I plan on being there in 2025 and 2026 so you can bet I will hav=
e a transponder!</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
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From: Robert Lang via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 21:38:49 +0000 (UTC)

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 From direct experience, if an attractive border crossing agent asks if you=
 "have any personal protection", do not under any circumstances think about=
...
I found out that they have very little latitude regarding dirty humor. They=
 also don't kid around regarding firearms. On the same trip, one of my budd=
ies got his TR4 dismantled in Yarmouth, NS when he answered the question ab=
ove "what, you mean guns?" Took hours to get the stuff back in the TR4 befo=
re we could head off to Cape Sable.
Even though I have only touring laps at Mosport - I have to agree that it a=
wesome. If you like blind apexes, it's even awesomer.
l8r.
rml

    On Tuesday, December 3, 2024 at 01:20:50 PM EST, marty sukey via Fot <f=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 Also, if you are crossing the border into Canada in a MH you can poses "Be=
ar Spray" but "Pepper Spray" is not permitted. After dancing around that qu=
estion, crossing over was a breeze. No guns or weapons and no pepper spray.=
 They did not even ask me about food.=C2=A0 On the food, you don't really n=
eed that much. VARAC pretty much fills you full of food and beer all weeken=
d start to finish. As Henery said, it is a fantastic event!
MartyFrom: marty sukey <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2024 12:28 PM
To: FOT <[email-masked]>
Subject: US racers heading to Mosport=C2=A0A tip if you are heading to Mosp=
ort with motorhome pulling a trailer and crossing into Canada from Bufalo.=
=C2=A0 I took the 407ETR back in June to avoid the Toronto craziness. I saw=
 all the signs on the 407ETR telling me that if you were over 5000kg you ne=
eded a transponder, I assumed that was for commercial vehicles.=C2=A0 Boy w=
as I wrong. On the toll rates for the 407ETR if you are over 5000kg and pul=
ling a trailer, even noncommercial, that puts you into "Heavy Multiple Unit=
 Vehicles". The tolls were crazy (they mail them to you) but what I did not=
 expect was $150 in camera fees! The fees are going up in January so they w=
ill even be more. I discovered after the fact that you just need to go to t=
he 407ETR website and purchase a transponder for $30 a year and save a bunc=
h of money. I plan on being there in 2025 and 2026 so you can bet I will ha=
ve a transponder!
Marty Sukey_______________________________________________
[email-masked]

@yahoo.com

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n attractive border crossing agent asks if you "have any personal protectio=
n", do not under any circumstances think about...</div><div dir=3D"ltr" dat=
a-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I found=
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on't kid around regarding firearms. On the same trip, one of my buddies got=
 his TR4 dismantled in Yarmouth, NS when he answered the question above "wh=
at, you mean guns?" Took hours to get the stuff back in the TR4 before we c=
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r></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Even though I have only tour=
ing laps at Mosport - I have to agree that it awesome. If you like blind ap=
exes, it's even awesomer.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">l8r.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
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rty sukey via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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or:rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"ydp4318cbc4yiv0062116405elementToProof">
Also, if you are crossing the border into Canada in a MH you can poses "Bea=
r Spray" but "Pepper Spray" is not permitted. After dancing around that que=
stion, crossing over was a breeze. No guns or weapons and no pepper spray. =
They did not even ask me about food.&nbsp;
 On the food, you don't really need that much. VARAC pretty much fills you =
full of food and beer all weekend start to finish. As Henery said, it is a =
fantastic event!</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"ydp4318cbc4yiv0062116405elementToProof">
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Marty</div>
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Msg"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt;" color=3D"=
#000000"><b>From:</b> marty sukey &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 3, 2024 12:28 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> FOT &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> US racers heading to Mosport</font>
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or:rgb(0,0,0);" class=3D"ydp4318cbc4yiv0062116405x_elementToProof">
A tip if you are heading to Mosport with motorhome pulling a trailer and cr=
ossing into Canada from Bufalo.&nbsp; I took the 407ETR back in June to avo=
id the Toronto craziness. I saw all the signs on the 407ETR telling me that=
 if you were over 5000kg you needed a
 transponder, I assumed that was for commercial vehicles.&nbsp; Boy was I w=
rong. On the toll rates for the 407ETR if you are over 5000kg and pulling a=
 trailer, even noncommercial, that puts you into "Heavy Multiple Unit Vehic=
les". The tolls were crazy (they mail
 them to you) but what I did not expect was $150 in camera fees! The fees a=
re going up in January so they will even be more. I discovered after the fa=
ct that you just need to go to the 407ETR website and purchase a transponde=
r for $30 a year and save a bunch
 of money. I plan on being there in 2025 and 2026 so you can bet I will hav=
e a transponder!</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
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