Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake Shoes - Carbotech relining

From: Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 17:01:56 -0400

I agree. I get the pre-heated ones too. Carbotech stops as well or better, and last longer than any other pads I’ve tried, and I’ve tried quite a few.
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> On May 23, 2024, at 4:10 PM, finishing Touch via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I'm on my 3rd set of Carbotech front pads for my TR6 race car and never had any issues....I do spend the extra $ and have them pre-bedded.
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> Mike Kurtz
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From: "Barr, Scott via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 21:26:46 +0000

I loved the Carbotech pads when I was using them on my GT6 for track days.  I never had the odd wear problems that have been described.  I always used the Hawk Blues on my Spitfire racer and liked those as well, though they didn't have to deal with the same heat as was generated by my GT6 brakes at Blackhawk.  The Hawk Blues I use on my Spec Racer Ford also work really well and stand up to enough heat to turn the rotors blue.  If you're unhappy with the Carbotech pads, the Hawk Blues are a good option, in my opinion.

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From: Mark Cook via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 18:43:36 -0400

Seems like there are several options for front brake pads, just not many for the rear brake shoes.  Outside of stock compounds for brake shoes which are not compatible for racing, racing compounds seem limited to Porterfield R-4, Carbotech, maybe Racetorations and Cambridge Motorsports' "uprated Mintex" shoes.  I understand Revington might make something.  Problem is not knowing the temp specs and torque/bite on these latter shoes based on the website descriptions.

Will share anything new that I learn.

Thanks

Mark

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Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake Shoes - Carbotech relining

I agree. I get the pre-heated ones too. Carbotech stops as well or better, and last longer than any other pads I�ve tried, and I�ve tried quite a few.
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> On May 23, 2024, at 4:10�PM, finishing Touch via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> ?I'm on my 3rd set of Carbotech front pads for my TR6 race car and never had any issues....I do spend the extra $ and have them pre-bedded.
> 
> Mike Kurtz
> #51 TR6
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From: David Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 22:55:18 +0000 (UTC)

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I=E2=80=99m using stock shoes in the back of my TR4; seems to work OK! =C2=
=A0:-) and yes, I=E2=80=99m typically braking pretty late and hard.
I=E2=80=99m curious if anyone gets any real temperature on the rear brakes?=
 =C2=A0Mine seem just a little warm coming off track=E2=80=A6. =C2=A0But ma=
ybe others have cooked stock compound=C2=A0shoes?
Dave G

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wrote:

Seems like there are several options for front brake pads, just not many fo=
r the rear brake shoes.=C2=A0 Outside of stock compounds for brake shoes wh=
ich are not compatible for racing, racing compounds seem limited to Porterf=
ield R-4, Carbotech, maybe Racetorations and Cambridge Motorsports' "uprate=
d Mintex" shoes.=C2=A0 I understand Revington might make something.=C2=A0 P=
roblem is not knowing the temp specs and torque/bite on these latter shoes =
based on the website descriptions.

Thanks

Mark

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Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 5:27 PM
To: Scott Janzen; finishing Touch
Cc: [email-masked] [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake Shoes - Carbotech relinin=
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I loved the Carbotech pads when I was using them on my GT6 for track days.=
=C2=A0 I never had the odd wear problems that have been described.=C2=A0 I =
always used the Hawk Blues on my Spitfire racer and liked those as well, th=
ough they didn't have to deal with the same heat as was generated by my GT6=
 brakes at Blackhawk.=C2=A0 The Hawk Blues I use on my Spec Racer Ford also=
 work really well and stand up to enough heat to turn the rotors blue.=C2=
=A0 If you're unhappy with the Carbotech pads, the Hawk Blues are a good op=
tion, in my opinion.

Scott (B.)

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Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake Shoes - Carbotech relinin=
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I agree. I get the pre-heated ones too. Carbotech stops as well or better, =
and last longer than any other pads I=EF=BF=BDve tried, and I=EF=BF=BDve tr=
ied quite a few.
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>I loved the Carbotech pads when I was using them on my GT6 for track days.=
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Excuse me for not commenting specifically about the rear shoes.  I also use=
 standard street shoes from Moss on the back of my TR3 with Datsun aluminum=
 drums.  No problems at all.  Little wear as well.  I=E2=80=99ve changed th=
e front pads a number of times in comparison during my relatively short rac=
ing years.
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> I=E2=80=99m curious if anyone gets any real temperature on the rear brake=
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> > Seems like there are several options for front brake pads, just not man=
y for the rear brake shoes.  Outside of stock compounds for brake shoes whi=
ch are not compatible for racing, racing compounds seem limited to Porterfi=
eld R-4, Carbotech, maybe Racetorations and Cambridge Motorsports' "uprated=
 Mintex" shoes.  I understand Revington might make something.  Problem is n=
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e website descriptions.
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> > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake Shoes - Carbotech rel=
ining
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> > I loved the Carbotech pads when I was using them on my GT6 for track da=
ys.  I never had the odd wear problems that have been described.  I always =
used the Hawk Blues on my Spitfire racer and liked those as well, though th=
ey didn't have to deal with the same heat as was generated by my GT6 brakes=
 at Blackhawk.  The Hawk Blues I use on my Spec Racer Ford also work really=
 well and stand up to enough heat to turn the rotors blue.  If you're unhap=
py with the Carbotech pads, the Hawk Blues are a good option, in my opinion=
.
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> > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake Shoes - Carbotech rel=
ining
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> > I agree. I get the pre-heated ones too. Carbotech stops as well or bett=
er, and last longer than any other pads I=EF=BF=BDve tried, and I=EF=BF=BDv=
e tried quite a few.
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aluminum drums. &nbsp;No problems at all. &nbsp;Little wear as well. &nbsp;=
I=E2=80=99ve changed the front pads a number of times in comparison during =
my relatively short racing years.
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      Seems like there are several options for front brake pads, just not m=
any for the rear brake shoes.&nbsp; Outside of stock compounds for brake sh=
oes which are not compatible for racing, racing compounds seem limited to P=
orterfield R-4, Carbotech, maybe Racetorations and Cambridge Motorsports' "=
uprated Mintex" shoes.&nbsp; I understand Revington might make something.&n=
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      <br clear=3D"none">
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n my GT6 for track days.&nbsp; I never had the odd wear problems that have =
been described.&nbsp; I always used the Hawk Blues on my Spitfire racer and=
 liked those as well, though they didn't have to deal with the same heat as=
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 my Spec Racer Ford also work really well and stand up to enough heat to tu=
rn the rotors blue.&nbsp; If you're unhappy with the Carbotech pads, the Ha=
wk Blues are a good option, in my opinion.
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From: Andrew Devenish via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 13:48:59 +0000

Hi All, am having a little trouble with the needle/seat in my SU HS4 using the AM viton tipped parts from Moss. Using pressure 3-4 PSI (running) they have a quickly (< 1 hour use, but a lot of assembly/disassembly) shown a visible line, and are now sticking. Is there a recommended source for these parts ?   I see 070 and 096 bore parts offered - which is considered best for HS4 on a race 1300 ?
Should I be running higher fuel pressure ?

Thank you,
      Andrew Devenish

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Andrew,

I presume they are sticking closed, not open?

I've seen some where the brass seat has a sharp edge that grabs the viton,
locking it shut.

I take a small center drill and break the sharp edge by hand.   That seems
to help.

3 to 4 psi is plenty high enough.   I run closer to 2 psi on mine.

Jason

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> Hi All, am having a little trouble with the needle/seat in my SU HS4 usin=
g
> the AM viton tipped parts from Moss. Using pressure 3-4 PSI (running) the=
y
> have a quickly (< 1 hour use, but a lot of assembly/disassembly) shown a
> visible line, and are now sticking. Is there a recommended source for the=
se
> parts ?   I see 070 and 096 bore parts offered - which is considered best
> for HS4 on a race 1300 ?
> > On May 23, 2024, at 5:34=E2=80=AFPM, Barr, Scott via Fot <[email-masked]=
m.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > =EF=BB=BFI loved the Carbotech pads when I was using them on my GT6 for=
 track
> days.  I never had the odd wear problems that have been described.  I
> always used the Hawk Blues on my Spitfire racer and liked those as well,
> though they didn't have to deal with the same heat as was generated by my
> GT6 brakes at Blackhawk.  The Hawk Blues I use on my Spec Racer Ford also
> work really well and stand up to enough heat to turn the rotors blue.  If
> you're unhappy with the Carbotech pads, the Hawk Blues are a good option,
> in my opinion.
> >
> > Scott (B.)
> >
> >
> > From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fo=
t
> > I agree. I get the pre-heated ones too. Carbotech stops as well or
> better, and last longer than any other pads I=E2=80=99ve tried, and I=E2=
=80=99ve tried
> quite a few.
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On May 23, 2024, at 4:10=E2=80=AFPM, finishing Touch via Fot <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >>
> >> =EF=BB=BFI'm on my 3rd set of Carbotech front pads for my TR6 race car=
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Andrew,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>I presume they are sticking closed, not open?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve seen some where the brass seat has a sharp =
edge that grabs the viton, locking it shut.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">I take a small center drill and break the sharp e=
dge by hand.=C2=A0 =C2=A0That seems to help.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto">3 to 4 psi is plenty high enough.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I =
run closer to 2 psi on mine.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"auto">Jason=C2=A0</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, May 25, 2024, 9:59=E2=80=AFAM Andrew Deve=
nish via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi All, am having a l=
ittle trouble with the needle/seat in my SU HS4 using the AM viton tipped p=
arts from Moss. Using pressure 3-4 PSI (running) they have a quickly (&lt; =
1 hour use, but a lot of assembly/disassembly) shown a visible line, and ar=
e now sticking. Is there a recommended source for these parts ?=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0I see 070 and 096 bore parts offered - which is considered best for HS4 =
on a race 1300 ?<br>
Should I be running higher fuel pressure ?<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Andrew Devenish<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
<br>
&gt; On May 23, 2024, at 5:34=E2=80=AFPM, Barr, Scott via Fot &lt;<a href=
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ox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BFI loved the Carbotech pads when I was using them on my GT6 fo=
r track days.=C2=A0 I never had the odd wear problems that have been descri=
bed.=C2=A0 I always used the Hawk Blues on my Spitfire racer and liked thos=
e as well, though they didn&#39;t have to deal with the same heat as was ge=
nerated by my GT6 brakes at Blackhawk.=C2=A0 The Hawk Blues I use on my Spe=
c Racer Ford also work really well and stand up to enough heat to turn the =
rotors blue.=C2=A0 If you&#39;re unhappy with the Carbotech pads, the Hawk =
Blues are a good option, in my opinion.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Scott (B.)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt; Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake Shoes - Carbotech re=
lining<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I agree. I get the pre-heated ones too. Carbotech stops as well or bet=
ter, and last longer than any other pads I=E2=80=99ve tried, and I=E2=80=99=
ve tried quite a few.<br>
&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br>
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&gt;&gt; On May 23, 2024, at 4:10=E2=80=AFPM, finishing Touch via Fot &lt;<=
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&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =EF=BB=BFI&#39;m on my 3rd set of Carbotech front pads for my TR6 =
race car and never had any issues....I do spend the extra $ and have them p=
re-bedded.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Mike Kurtz<br>
&gt;&gt; #51 TR6<br>
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