Subject: Re: [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex crank

From: Steve Yott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2023 16:07:45 -0500

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This topic has come up several times.  I have a fair number of friends =
who own speed shops and are great high performance engine builders.  The =
consensus among all of them is to not do this unless you have a crank =
made with narrower journals to create a big end to journal side =
clearance of no more that .006=E2=80=9D.  The idea with this and why all =
manufactures use close side clearance is to create a healthy dose of oil =
spray onto the cylinders, pistons and cam shaft.  If you use the chevy =
rod on a standard Triumph journal you have a side clearance of over =
.100=E2=80=9D and all the spray just directs horizontally which does not =
help a thing.  I have yet to find any engine spec that lists anything =
over .010=E2=80=9D in all my 70+ years.

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My opinion and I=E2=80=99m sticking to it!

=20

Steve Yott

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From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Lorne Fritz via Fot
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 3:13 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex crank

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Hi, Could anybody tell me what rods you are using on a Moldex crank that =
is sized for a Chevy rod.  This is for a TR3/4 engine.  Pat number, size =
or application would help.   Thanks in advance.   Lorne

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>This topic has come up several =
times.=C2=A0 I have a fair number of friends who own speed shops and are =
great high performance engine builders.=C2=A0 The consensus among all of =
them is to not do this unless you have a crank made with narrower =
journals to create a big end to journal side clearance of no more that =
.006=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 The idea with this and why all manufactures use =
close side clearance is to create a healthy dose of oil spray onto the =
cylinders, pistons and cam shaft.=C2=A0 If you use the chevy rod on a =
standard Triumph journal you have a side clearance of over .100=E2=80=9D =
and all the spray just directs horizontally which does not help a =
thing.=C2=A0 I have yet to find any engine spec that lists anything over =
.010=E2=80=9D in all my 70+ years.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My opinion =
and I=E2=80=99m sticking to it!<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Steve =
Yott<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lorne Fritz via =
Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 2, 2023 3:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex =
crank<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi, =
Could anybody tell me what rods you are using on a Moldex crank that is =
sized for a Chevy rod.&nbsp; This is for a TR3/4 engine.&nbsp; Pat =
number, size or application would help. &nbsp; Thanks in =
advance.&nbsp;&nbsp; Lorne<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>
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From: Ken Knight via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2023 16:44:22 -0700

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They will in fact work.  I have hundreds of hours on Chevy rods.  The only =
thing is that you have to order custom rods.  My machinist, a  master
Chevy race motor builder, put me on to the specs and the rest is history.  =
Love the Clevite bearing, super high quality and available in + or - .001 s=
izes already coated.

Ken

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Steve Yott via Fot
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 3:16 PM
To: 'Lorne Fritz'
Cc: 'FOT'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex crank

This topic has come up several times.=C2=A0 I have a fair number of friends=
 who own speed shops and are great high performance engine builders.=C2=A0 =
The consensus among all of them is to not do this unless you have a crank m=
ade with narrower journals to create a big end to journal side clearance of=
 no more that .006=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 The idea with this and why all manufactu=
res use close side clearance is to create a healthy dose of oil spray onto =
the cylinders, pistons and cam shaft.=C2=A0 If you use the chevy rod on a s=
tandard Triumph journal you have a side clearance of over .100=E2=80=9D and=
 all the spray just directs horizontally which does not help a thing.=C2=A0=
 I have yet to find any engine spec that lists anything over .010=E2=80=9D =
in all my 70+ years.

Steve Yott

Hi, Could anybody tell me what rods you are using on a Moldex crank that is=
 sized for a Chevy rod.=C2=A0 This is for a TR3/4 engine.=C2=A0 Pat number,=
 size or application would help. =C2=A0 Thanks in advance.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Lorn=
e

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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>They =
will in fact work.=C2=A0 I have hundreds of hours on Chevy rods.=C2=A0 The =
only thing is that you have to order custom rods.=C2=A0 My machinist, a =C2=
=A0master</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Chevy race motor builder, put me on to th=
e specs and the rest is history.=C2=A0 Love the Clevite bearing, super high=
 quality and available in + or - .001 sizes already coated.</p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ken</p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a href=3D"https://=
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lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">Steve Yott via Fot</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday,=
 November 2, 2023 3:16 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:lorne.fritz@gmail=
.com">'Lorne Fritz'</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>'FOT'</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex crank</p></div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This topic has=
 come up several times.&nbsp; I have a fair number of friends who own speed=
 shops and are great high performance engine builders.&nbsp; The consensus =
among all of them is to not do this unless you have a crank made with narro=
wer journals to create a big end to journal side clearance of no more that =
.006=E2=80=9D.&nbsp; The idea with this and why all manufactures use close =
side clearance is to create a healthy dose of oil spray onto the cylinders,=
 pistons and cam shaft.&nbsp; If you use the chevy rod on a standard Triump=
h journal you have a side clearance of over .100=E2=80=9D and all the spray=
 just directs horizontally which does not help a thing.&nbsp; I have yet to=
 find any engine spec that lists anything over .010=E2=80=9D in all my 70+ =
years.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal>My opinion and I=E2=80=99m sticking to it!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Steve Yott<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;bo=
rder-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>L=
orne Fritz via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 2, 2023 3:13 PM<br><b=
>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex cran=
k<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal>Hi, Could anybody tell me what rods you are using on a Moldex cra=
nk that is sized for a Chevy rod.&nbsp; This is for a TR3/4 engine.&nbsp; P=
at number, size or application would help. &nbsp; Thanks in advance.&nbsp;&=
nbsp; Lorne<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><=
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From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2023 14:57:08 +0000 (UTC)

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 It's been a long time, but I started using Carillo rods when SCCA allowed =
alternate rods for production cars in 1980.=C2=A0 They were "off the shelf"=
 at that time and in nearly 20 years of use at up to 7,000 RPM's, I never h=
ad a failure.=C2=A0 If I were doing a race engine today, I would check with=
 Carillo.

Jack

    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 09:02:27 PM EDT, John H. Hasty via Fot=
 <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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Moldex sized to Ford Standard, Ford Modular hbeam racing rods by Manley
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John H. Hasty
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Of Counsel
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Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A.
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301 S. York St.,
=20
P.O. Box 488
=20
Gastonia, NC 28053
=20
704.864.6751=C2=A0(p)=C2=A0704.861.8394=C2=A0(f)
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mhc-law.com=C2=A0|=C2=[email-masked]
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From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf OfKen Knight via Fot
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 7:44 PM
To: [email-masked]; 'Lorne Fritz' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'FOT' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex crank
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
They will in fact work.=C2=A0 I have hundreds of hours on Chevy rods.=C2=A0=
 The only thing is that you have to order custom rods.=C2=A0 My machinist, =
a =C2=A0master
=20
Chevy race motor builder, put me on to the specs and the rest is history.=
=C2=A0 Love the Clevite bearing, super high quality and available in + or -=
 .001 sizes already coated.
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Ken
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Sent from Mail for Windows
=20
 =C2=A0
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From: Steve Yott via Fot
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 3:16 PM
To: 'Lorne Fritz'
Cc: 'FOT'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex crank
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
This topic has come up several times.=C2=A0 I have a fair number of friends=
 who own speed shops and are great high performance engine builders.=C2=A0 =
The consensus among all of them is to not do this unless you have a crank m=
ade with narrower journals to create a big end to journal side clearance of=
 no more that .006=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 The idea with this and why all manufactu=
res use close side clearance is to create a healthy dose of oil spray onto =
the cylinders, pistons and cam shaft.=C2=A0 If you use the chevy rod on a s=
tandard Triumph journal you have a side clearance of over .100=E2=80=9D and=
 all the spray just directs horizontally which does not help a thing.=C2=A0=
 I have yet to find any engine spec that lists anything over .010=E2=80=9D =
in all my 70+ years.
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
My opinion and I=E2=80=99m sticking to it!
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Steve Yott
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
From: Fot <[email-masked]>On Behalf Of Lorne Fritz via Fot
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 3:13 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex crank
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Hi, Could anybody tell me what rods you are using on a Moldex crank that is=
 sized for a Chevy rod.=C2=A0 This is for a TR3/4 engine.=C2=A0 Pat number,=
 size or application would help. =C2=A0 Thanks in advance.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Lorn=
e
=20
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It's been a long time, but I=
 started using Carillo rods when SCCA allowed alternate rods for production=
 cars in 1980.&nbsp; They were "off the shelf" at that time and in nearly 2=
0 years of use at up to 7,000 RPM's, I never had a failure.&nbsp; If I were=
 doing a race engine today, I would check with Carillo.<br></div><div dir=
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<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;fot-bou=
[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Ken Knight via Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 2, 2023 7:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]; 'Lorne Fritz' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'FOT' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex crank</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal">They will in fact work.&nbsp=
; I have hundreds of hours on Chevy rods.&nbsp; The only thing is that you =
have to order custom rods.&nbsp; My machinist, a &nbsp;master</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal">Chevy race motor builder, pu=
t me on to the specs and the rest is history.&nbsp; Love the Clevite bearin=
g, super high quality and available in + or - .001 sizes already coated.</p=
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal">Ken</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https:/=
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k">
Mail</a> for Windows</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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order-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt=
 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Steve Yott via Fo=
t</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, November 2, 2023 3:16 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">'Lorne Fritz'</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex crank</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal">This topic has come up sever=
al times.&nbsp; I have a fair number of friends who own speed shops and are=
 great high performance engine builders.&nbsp; The consensus among all of t=
hem is to not do this unless you have a crank made with narrower journals
 to create a big end to journal side clearance of no more that .006=E2=80=
=9D.&nbsp; The idea with this and why all manufactures use close side clear=
ance is to create a healthy dose of oil spray onto the cylinders, pistons a=
nd cam shaft.&nbsp; If you use the chevy rod on a standard
 Triumph journal you have a side clearance of over .100=E2=80=9D and all th=
e spray just directs horizontally which does not help a thing.&nbsp; I have=
 yet to find any engine spec that lists anything over .010=E2=80=9D in all =
my 70+ years.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal">My opinion and I=E2=80=99m s=
ticking to it!</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal">Steve Yott</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<div style=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; b=
order-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt=
 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">f=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lorne Fritz via Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 2, 2023 3:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Chevy rods/Moldex crank</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp2613608cyiv7407593947MsoNormal">Hi, Could anybody tell me wh=
at rods you are using on a Moldex crank that is sized for a Chevy rod.&nbsp=
; This is for a TR3/4 engine.&nbsp; Pat number, size or application would h=
elp. &nbsp; Thanks in advance.&nbsp;&nbsp; Lorne</p>=20
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From: Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2023 17:14:45 -0500

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Since 2009, I=E2=80=99ve been using Eagle SIR ESP 5140 I-beam rods with the C=
hevy rod bearing size big end. They are bullet proof. When I was using a sti=
ck crank, they survived two broken cranks. Now have switched to a custom cra=
nk sized for these rods. Motor can spin to 7000 no problem. Someone else men=
tioned the availability of the clevite bearings which is awesome.=20

On my stock TR cranks, I ran these as piston guided rod since the big end wa=
s narrower than the bearing journal. Now the custom crank was made with thes=
e in mind so they are no longer piston guided. Since they are for a v8, ther=
e is some machine work involved in cutting a radius on one side of the big e=
nd so it won=E2=80=99t foul the radius of the big journal on the crank. Pret=
ty easy for a good machine shop. You=E2=80=99ll likely find that you need to=
 chamfer the rod bearings as well=20

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> On Nov 2, 2023, at 15:36, Lorne Fritz via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
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> Hi, Could anybody tell me what rods you are using on a Moldex crank that i=
s sized for a Chevy rod.  This is for a TR3/4 engine.  Pat number, size or a=
pplication would help.   Thanks in advance.   Lorne
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Thanks everybody,  I have the info I need.   Lorne

On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 6:14=E2=80=AFPM Greg Blake <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

> Since 2009, I=E2=80=99ve been using Eagle SIR ESP 5140 I-beam rods with t=
he Chevy
> rod bearing size big end. They are bullet proof. When I was using a stick
> crank, they survived two broken cranks. Now have switched to a custom cra=
nk
> sized for these rods. Motor can spin to 7000 no problem. Someone else
> mentioned the availability of the clevite bearings which is awesome.
>
> On my stock TR cranks, I ran these as piston guided rod since the big end
> was narrower than the bearing journal. Now the custom crank was made with
> these in mind so they are no longer piston guided. Since they are for a v=
8,
> there is some machine work involved in cutting a radius on one side of th=
e
> big end so it won=E2=80=99t foul the radius of the big journal on the cra=
nk. Pretty
> easy for a good machine shop. You=E2=80=99ll likely find that you need to=
 chamfer
> the rod bearings as well
> Sent from my iPhone
> > Hi, Could anybody tell me what rods you are using on a Moldex crank tha=
t
> is sized for a Chevy rod.  This is for a TR3/4 engine.  Pat number, size =
or
> application would help.   Thanks in advance.   Lorne
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks everybody,=C2=A0 I have the info I need.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 Lorne<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 6:14=E2=80=AFPM Greg Blake &lt;<a href=
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></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Since 2009, I=E2=
=80=99ve been using Eagle SIR ESP 5140 I-beam rods with the Chevy rod beari=
ng size big end. They are bullet proof. When I was using a stick crank, the=
y survived two broken cranks. Now have switched to a custom crank sized for=
 these rods. Motor can spin to 7000 no problem. Someone else mentioned the =
availability of the clevite bearings which is awesome. <br>
<br>
On my stock TR cranks, I ran these as piston guided rod since the big end w=
as narrower than the bearing journal. Now the custom crank was made with th=
ese in mind so they are no longer piston guided. Since they are for a v8, t=
here is some machine work involved in cutting a radius on one side of the b=
ig end so it won=E2=80=99t foul the radius of the big journal on the crank.=
 Pretty easy for a good machine shop. You=E2=80=99ll likely find that you n=
eed to chamfer the rod bearings as well <br>
<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
&gt; On Nov 2, 2023, at 15:36, Lorne Fritz via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fo=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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&gt; =EF=BB=BF<br>
&gt; Hi, Could anybody tell me what rods you are using on a Moldex crank th=
at is sized for a Chevy rod.=C2=A0 This is for a TR3/4 engine.=C2=A0 Pat nu=
mber, size or application would help.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks in advance.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Lorne<br>
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From: Larry Young via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2023 09:59:25 -0600

Do all V8 rods have no chamfer where the two rods meet? I think someone 
told me the modular Ford rods were not made this way. If so, they would 
be a better choice if a custom crank is used. When I did Chevy rods, we 
narrowed the journal on a stock crank by running a bead of weld along 
the edges. The only problem was getting it straight after the welding. - 
Larry

On 11/3/2023 5:14 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote:
> Since 2009, I’ve been using Eagle SIR ESP 5140 I-beam rods with the Chevy rod bearing size big end. They are bullet proof. When I was using a stick crank, they survived two broken cranks. Now have switched to a custom crank sized for these rods. Motor can spin to 7000 no problem. Someone else mentioned the availability of the clevite bearings which is awesome.
>
> On my stock TR cranks, I ran these as piston guided rod since the big end was narrower than the bearing journal. Now the custom crank was made with these in mind so they are no longer piston guided. Since they are for a v8, there is some machine work involved in cutting a radius on one side of the big end so it won’t foul the radius of the big journal on the crank. Pretty easy for a good machine shop. You’ll likely find that you need to chamfer the rod bearings as well
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>> Hi, Could anybody tell me what rods you are using on a Moldex crank that is sized for a Chevy rod.  This is for a TR3/4 engine.  Pat number, size or application would help.   Thanks in advance.   Lorne
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