Subject: [Fot] Polarity Question

From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 13:07:55 +0000 (UTC)

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I just bought a new generator for my TR-3A.=C2=A0 The Roadster Factory list=
s the same part number for the TR-3 generator and the TR-4 generator.=C2=A0=
 However, the TR-3 was originally positive ground, while the TR-4 was negat=
ive ground.=C2=A0Are these new generators set for positive or negative grou=
nd, or are they designed to handle either?=C2=A0 I changed the polarity of =
my car when I restored it years ago, so it is now negative ground.
My question is, do I need to polarize this new generator?=C2=A0 If it is se=
t for a negative ground, I'm afraid I might switch it to positive ground if=
 I do that "flick" thing.=C2=A0 The instructions Albert sent me said to run=
 a wire from the battery terminal which feeds the solenoid (positive in my =
case), then flick it against the field coil terminal of the generator.=C2=
=A0 OK, if I need to do this, which is the field coil terminal, the one on =
the side of the generator, or the large one on the end?
I don't want to do anything that will burn out my new generator or voltage =
regulator.=C2=A0 Thanks for any help you can give me.
Jack Wheeler
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dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I just bought a new generator for my TR-3=
A.&nbsp; The Roadster Factory lists the same part number for the TR-3 gener=
ator and the TR-4 generator.&nbsp; However, the TR-3 was originally positiv=
e ground, while the TR-4 was negative ground.&nbsp;<span>Are these new gene=
rators set for positive or negative ground, or are they designed to handle =
either?&nbsp; </span>I changed the polarity of my car when I restored it ye=
ars ago, so it is now negative ground.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">My question is, do I need to polarize this new generator?&nbsp=
; If it is set for a negative ground, I'm afraid I might switch it to posit=
ive ground if I do that "flick" thing.&nbsp; The instructions Albert sent m=
e said to run a wire from the battery terminal which feeds the solenoid (po=
sitive in my case), then flick it against the field coil terminal of the ge=
nerator.&nbsp; OK, if I need to do this, which is the field coil terminal, =
the one on the side of the generator, or the large one on the end?</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I don't want to do anything that w=
ill burn out my new generator or voltage regulator.&nbsp; Thanks for any he=
lp you can give me.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack W=
heeler<br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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From: fubog1 via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 15:06:15 +0000 (UTC)

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 Yes momentarily "flash"/put power to the genny field (small) terminal.
Glen Efinger

    On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 08:34:01 AM EST, Jack Wheeler via Fot=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Yes momentarily "flash"/put =
power to the genny field (small) terminal.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Glen Efinger<b=
r></div><div><br></div>
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                    On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 08:34:01 AM EST, Jack=
 Wheeler via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpc2b01ec3yiv5243049157"><div><div style=
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;" class=3D"ydpc2b01ec3yiv5243049157yahoo-style-wrap"><div id=3D"ydpc2b01ec=
3yiv5243049157ydp3c413691yahoo_quoted_1012030450" class=3D"ydpc2b01ec3yiv52=
43049157ydp3c413691yahoo_quoted"><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue'=
, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"><div><br><div=
 id=3D"ydpc2b01ec3yiv5243049157ydp3c413691ymsg85281" class=3D"ydpc2b01ec3yi=
v5243049157ydp3c413691ymsg9255194706"><div id=3D"ydpc2b01ec3yiv5243049157yd=
p3c413691yiv1678467058"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helv=
etica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" class=3D"ydpc2b01ec3yiv5243049157=
ydp3c413691yiv1678467058ydp264a8b52yahoo-style-wrap"><div dir=3D"ltr">I jus=
t bought a new generator for my TR-3A.&nbsp; The Roadster Factory lists the=
 same part number for the TR-3 generator and the TR-4 generator.&nbsp; Howe=
ver, the TR-3 was originally positive ground, while the TR-4 was negative g=
round.&nbsp;<span>Are these new generators set for positive or negative gro=
und, or are they designed to handle either?&nbsp; </span>I changed the pola=
rity of my car when I restored it years ago, so it is now negative ground.<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">My question is, do I need =
to polarize this new generator?&nbsp; If it is set for a negative ground, I=
'm afraid I might switch it to positive ground if I do that "flick" thing.&=
nbsp; The instructions Albert sent me said to run a wire from the battery t=
erminal which feeds the solenoid (positive in my case), then flick it again=
st the field coil terminal of the generator.&nbsp; OK, if I need to do this=
, which is the field coil terminal, the one on the side of the generator, o=
r the large one on the end?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">I don't want to do anything that will burn out my new generator or voltag=
e regulator.&nbsp; Thanks for any help you can give me.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack Wheeler<br></div></div></div></div></div=
></div>
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From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 17:02:40 +0000 (UTC)

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 Thanks to all who responded to my question.=C2=A0 I was corrected on the f=
act that Triumph switched to negative ground when the TR-4A was implemented=
 (1965).=C2=A0 The TR-4 was still positive ground.=C2=A0 But, the Roadster =
Factory lists the same part number for the TR-4 Generator (205939/AL) and t=
he TR-4A, so my logic is still correct.=C2=A0 Not that it applies to me, bu=
t I wonder if there is any difference when using this generator on a TR-4 v=
erses a TR-4A?
Thanks again.
Jack

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Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 10:06:20 AM ESTSubject: Re: [Fot] Polarity Q=
uestion
  Yes momentarily "flash"/put power to the genny field (small) terminal.
Glen Efinger

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Thanks to all who responded =
to my question.&nbsp; I was corrected on the fact that Triumph switched to =
negative ground when the TR-4A was implemented (1965).&nbsp; The TR-4 was s=
till positive ground.&nbsp; But, the Roadster Factory lists the same part n=
umber for the TR-4 Generator (205939/AL) and the TR-4A, so my logic is stil=
l correct.&nbsp; Not that it applies to me, but I wonder if there is any di=
fference when using this generator on a TR-4 verses a TR-4A?</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">Thanks again.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br></div><div><br></div>
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3 at 10:06:20 AM EST</div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Polarity Question<=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">Yes momentarily "flash"/put power to the genny fie=
ld (small) terminal.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Glen Efinger<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></di=
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                    On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 08:34:01 AM EST, Jack=
 Wheeler via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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82a;"><div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ydpc2079d65yiv6252598091ydpc2b01ec=
3yiv5243049157ydp3c413691ymsg85281" class=3D"ydpc2079d65yiv6252598091ydpc2b=
01ec3yiv5243049157ydp3c413691ymsg9255194706"><div id=3D"ydpc2079d65yiv62525=
98091ydpc2b01ec3yiv5243049157ydp3c413691yiv1678467058"><div><div style=3D"f=
ont-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" cl=
ass=3D"ydpc2079d65yiv6252598091ydpc2b01ec3yiv5243049157ydp3c413691yiv167846=
7058ydp264a8b52yahoo-style-wrap"><div dir=3D"ltr">I just bought a new gener=
ator for my TR-3A.&nbsp; The Roadster Factory lists the same part number fo=
r the TR-3 generator and the TR-4 generator.&nbsp; However, the TR-3 was or=
iginally positive ground, while the TR-4 was negative ground.&nbsp;<span>Ar=
e these new generators set for positive or negative ground, or are they des=
igned to handle either?&nbsp; </span>I changed the polarity of my car when =
I restored it years ago, so it is now negative ground.</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">My question is, do I need to po=
larize this new generator?&nbsp; If it is set for a negative ground, I'm af=
raid I might switch it to positive ground if I do that "flick" thing.&nbsp;=
 The instructions Albert sent me said to run a wire from the battery termin=
al which feeds the solenoid (positive in my case), then flick it against th=
e field coil terminal of the generator.&nbsp; OK, if I need to do this, whi=
ch is the field coil terminal, the one on the side of the generator, or the=
 large one on the end?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">I don't want to do anything that will burn out my new generator=
 or voltage regulator.&nbsp; Thanks for any help you can give me.</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack Wheeler<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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From: "R. John Lye via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 14:33:04 -0500

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Yes, it should work if you polarize it the way that Glen Effinger suggests=
=2E

Good luck,
John
=C2=A0

On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 17:02:40 +0000 (UTC), Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox=
=2Eteam.net> wrote:
=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Thanks to all who responded to my question.=C2=A0 I was corrected on the fa=
ct that Triumph switched to negative ground when the TR-4A was implemented =
(1965).=C2=A0 The TR-4 was still positive ground.=C2=A0 But, the Roadster F=
actory lists the same part number for the TR-4 Generator (205939/AL) and th=
e TR-4A, so my logic is still correct.=C2=A0 Not that it applies to me, but=
 I wonder if there is any difference when using this generator on a TR-4 ve=
rses a TR-4A?

=C2=A0

Thanks again.

=C2=A0

Jack

=C2=A0

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Polarity Question

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Glen Efinger

=C2=A0

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[email-masked]> wrote:

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<div class=3D"userStyles" style=3D" font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; co=
lor: #000000;">Yes, it should work if you polarize it the way that Glen Eff=
inger suggests.<br>
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Good luck,<br>
John
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<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">Thanks to all who responded to my qu=
estion.&nbsp; I was corrected on the fact that Triumph switched to negative=
 ground when the TR-4A was implemented (1965).&nbsp; The TR-4 was still pos=
itive ground.&nbsp; But, the Roadster Factory lists the same part number fo=
r the TR-4 Generator (205939/AL) and the TR-4A, so my logic is still correc=
t.&nbsp; Not that it applies to me, but I wonder if there is any difference=
 when using this generator on a TR-4 verses a TR-4A?</div>

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<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">Thanks again.</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">Jack</div>

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<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 10:06:20 AM EST</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes momentarily "flash"/put power to the genny field (smal=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I just bought a new generator for my TR-3A.&nbsp; The Road=
ster Factory lists the same part number for the TR-3 generator and the TR-4=
 generator.&nbsp; However, the TR-3 was originally positive ground, while t=
he TR-4 was negative ground.&nbsp;<span>Are these new generators set for po=
sitive or negative ground, or are they designed to handle either?&nbsp; </s=
pan>I changed the polarity of my car when I restored it years ago, so it is=
 now negative ground.</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">My question is, do I need to polarize this new generator?&=
nbsp; If it is set for a negative ground, I'm afraid I might switch it to p=
ositive ground if I do that "flick" thing.&nbsp; The instructions Albert se=
nt me said to run a wire from the battery terminal which feeds the solenoid=
 (positive in my case), then flick it against the field coil terminal of th=
e generator.&nbsp; OK, if I need to do this, which is the field coil termin=
al, the one on the side of the generator, or the large one on the end?</div=

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I don't want to do anything that will burn out my new gene=
rator or voltage regulator.&nbsp; Thanks for any help you can give me.</div=

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Jack Wheeler</div>
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