Subject: Re: [Fot] Toyota transmission clutch question

From: Philip Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 06:23:40 -0400

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">A 3-4=E2=80=9D guide pin in one of the bell=
 housing bolt holes on the engine block and a Phillips screwdriver in a star=
ter motor mounting hole helps a lot. Also putting the transmission &nbsp;in g=
ear so you can rotate the splines by turning the tail shaft helps as well. W=
orks on both a W-58 and a TR gearbox.<div>Also, when you mount the pressure p=
late make sure the clutch alignment tool floats freely in the clutch.<br><di=
v>Phil<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:07 AM, Mike Mehl via Fot &l=
t;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFWe have used a Toyota w58 transmission for s=
everal years.and have great problems getting the transmission and bell housi=
ng reassembled very hard to get splines to line up for a good fit.&nbsp; Any=
 suggestions&nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"ymail_android_signature"><a id=3D"ymail=
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From: Joe via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 08:03:22 -0400

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">If you have a double disc clutch, using an a=
ctual metal input shaft works much better as an alignment tool than a plasti=
c alignment tool.&nbsp;<div>JoeB<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:2=
5 AM, Mike Mehl via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFWe have used a T=
oyota w58 transmission for several years.and have great problems getting the=
 transmission and bell housing reassembled very hard to get splines to line u=
p for a good fit.&nbsp; Any suggestions&nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"ymail_androi=
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From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:43:28 +0000 (UTC)

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 Mike and Phil.=C2=A0 What is the Toyota W-58 transmission?=C2=A0 Does it b=
olt right up to the TR block, or is an adapter plate required?=C2=A0 I have=
 a Morgan and have a number of friends who have the Plus 4 model, which use=
d the TR-3/4 engine.=C2=A0 Most of them came with the Moss box, so folks ar=
e looking for a good 5-speed replacement.
I would not be surprised to learn that the W-58 is a bolt-up.=C2=A0 When I =
was racing, I used an electronic distributor out of a Nissan/Datsun B-210 (=
and a number of other applications).=C2=A0 It fit right into the TR-4 block=
, all I had to do was change the drive gear.=C2=A0 And then there's the Mia=
ta.=C2=A0 The Japanese copied a lot from the British.
Thanks.
Jack

    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 07:11:30 AM EDT, Philip Gott via Fot <fo=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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 A 3-4=E2=80=9D guide pin in one of the bell housing bolt holes on the engi=
ne block and a Phillips screwdriver in a starter motor mounting hole helps =
a lot. Also putting the transmission =C2=A0in gear so you can rotate the sp=
lines by turning the tail shaft helps as well. Works on both a W-58 and a T=
R gearbox.Also, when you mount the pressure plate make sure the clutch alig=
nment tool floats freely in the clutch.
Phil

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On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:07 AM, Mike Mehl via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFWe have used a Toyota w58 transmission for several years.and have =
great problems getting the transmission and bell housing reassembled very h=
ard to get splines to line up for a good fit.=C2=A0 Any suggestions=C2=A0

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike and Phil.&nbsp; What is=
 the Toyota W-58 transmission?&nbsp; Does it bolt right up to the TR block,=
 or is an adapter plate required?&nbsp; I have a Morgan and have a number o=
f friends who have the Plus 4 model, which used the TR-3/4 engine.&nbsp; Mo=
st of them came with the Moss box, so folks are looking for a good 5-speed =
replacement.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I would not be surprised to learn that the W=
-58 is a bolt-up.&nbsp; When I was racing, I used an electronic distributor=
 out of a Nissan/Datsun B-210 (and a number of other applications).&nbsp; I=
t fit right into the TR-4 block, all I had to do was change the drive gear.=
&nbsp; And then there's the Miata.&nbsp; The Japanese copied a lot from the=
 British.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Thanks.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br></div><div><b=
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                    On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 07:11:30 AM EDT, Philip =
Gott via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpcfc02911yiv3258014013"><div>A 3-4=E2=80=
=9D guide pin in one of the bell housing bolt holes on the engine block and=
 a Phillips screwdriver in a starter motor mounting hole helps a lot. Also =
putting the transmission &nbsp;in gear so you can rotate the splines by tur=
ning the tail shaft helps as well. Works on both a W-58 and a TR gearbox.<d=
iv>Also, when you mount the pressure plate make sure the clutch alignment t=
ool floats freely in the clutch.<br clear=3D"none"><div>Phil<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ydpcfc02911yiv3258014013yqtfd57747" class=3D"ydpcfc0291=
1yiv3258014013yqt7472362453"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">O=
n Oct 23, 2023, at 2:07 AM, Mike Mehl via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wr=
ote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ydpcfc02911yiv3258014013yqtfd=
99757" class=3D"ydpcfc02911yiv3258014013yqt7472362453">=EF=BB=BFWe have use=
d a Toyota w58 transmission for several years.and have great problems getti=
ng the transmission and bell housing reassembled very hard to get splines t=
o line up for a good fit.&nbsp; Any suggestions&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"><br=
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