Subject: Re: [Fot] Frame paint

From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 16:16:01 +0000 (UTC)

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 When I have something powder coated that has female threads in it, I screw=
 a bolt into the threads before powder coating.=C2=A0 Protects the threads.
Jack

    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 10:17:07 PM EDT, Larry Young via Fot <=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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  It is worse than just an allergic reaction, isocynates are a carcinogen a=
nd are not trapped by a=C2=A0 normal respirator. That is why a supplied air=
 respirator is recommended. I've got one I'm trying to sell if anyone is in=
terested.
=20
 I think I've used everything that has been recommended. I did powder coat =
on one project and decided I don't like it because it is so thick, e.g. any=
 threads that get powder coated will have to be chased. If you want a satin=
 finish, I'd just use epoxy primer. I also like polyurethanes (Dupont Imron=
 or PPG Durethane) if you want a glossy finish. Those products are no longe=
r available, but there are other polyurethane enamels.
 =C2=A0- Larry Young
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 On 9/29/2023 8:36 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote:
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 This is good advice!!!
  I almost killed myself with I think Dupont Chroma 1 or some such in 97, s=
till get a reaction when I get a whiff of it. Now I use a 3M PAPR, even whe=
n mixing & cleaning up. And of course y'all know that no mask/filter system=
 will work if one has a lot of facial hair...=20
  Glen Efinger
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      On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 01:36:56 AM EDT, Joe Boruch via Fot =
<[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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      Most of the two part urethane paints are hazardous like Imron.=C2=A0 =
The hardener is isocyanate, which can cause severe allergic reactions when =
inhaled.=C2=A0 Once allergic to it, a person can react to it with every exp=
osure.=C2=A0 Isocyanate is the chemical that was responsible for the deaths=
 in the Bopal, India chemical disaster many years ago.=C2=A0 Be sure to use=
 a good tight fitting cartridge respirator when spraying these urethanes, b=
ut I think most safety instructions say to use a supplied air respirator.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
       On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 07:23:56 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via=
 Fot <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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      Hi Joe.=C2=A0 When I bought the Imron for my car in 1980, the guy wou=
ldn't sell it to me unless I also bought the respirator he recommended!=C2=
=A0 Strong stuff.=20
  Jack
 =20
       On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:33:26 AM EDT, Joe Alexander <j=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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    In the 70s we were painting John Deere Tractors in DuPont Imron. What w=
asn=E2=80=99t done by robots was done by painters in HazMat Suits.
=20
 Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com G=
asketinnovations.com Cell: =C2=A0319.464.4711=20
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On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
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  =EF=BB=BF  I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I pa=
inted the frame on my race car with Dupont Imron.=C2=A0 It was the most dur=
able paint available at the time, and my experience reflected that.=C2=A0 T=
he stuff is very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.=20
  Jack
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      On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via Fo=
t <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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Grey will show cracks better than black.=C2=A0 POR is the first thing that =
came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.
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Cheers, Tony
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  On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:
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      I'd suggest POR 15.=C2=A0 Depending on the color, the number changes.=
=C2=A0 I think 15 is black.=C2=A0 Gray is something else, maybe 10.=C2=A0 S=
pray or brush on.=C2=A0 I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray can=
s are perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about an=
ywhere.=C2=A0 POR products might be a little more durable than Rustoleum.=
=C2=A0 If the frame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good start, but wit=
h POR I "think" you can skip the primer.=C2=A0=C2=A0   Dave H.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
  =C2=A0   On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:    =C2=A0   =C2=A0   Hi All.=20
  =C2=A0 It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just wond=
ering what the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car frame ? It'=
s already=C2=A0sand blasted if that matters..   =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks.=C2=A0 =
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">When I have something powder=
 coated that has female threads in it, I screw a bolt into the threads befo=
re powder coating.&nbsp; Protects the threads.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-s=
etdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br></=
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                    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 10:17:07 PM EDT, Larry=
 Young via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpbb0c60d5yiv6256495401"><div>
    It is worse than just an allergic reaction, isocynates are a
    carcinogen and are not trapped by a&nbsp; normal respirator. That is wh=
y
    a supplied air respirator is recommended. I've got one I'm trying to
    sell if anyone is interested.<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    I think I've used everything that has been recommended. I did powder
    coat on one project and decided I don't like it because it is so
    thick, e.g. any threads that get powder coated will have to be
    chased. If you want a satin finish, I'd just use epoxy primer. I
    also like polyurethanes (Dupont Imron or PPG Durethane) if you want
    a glossy finish. Those products are no longer available, but there
    are other polyurethane enamels.<br clear=3D"none">
    &nbsp;- Larry Young<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"ydpbb0c60d5yiv6256495401yqtfd12922" class=3D"ydpbb0c60d5yiv6=
256495401yqt4957910722"><div class=3D"ydpbb0c60d5yiv6256495401moz-cite-pref=
ix">On 9/29/2023 8:36 AM, fubog1 via Fot
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">This is good advice!!!<br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I almost killed myself with I
          think Dupont Chroma 1 or some such in 97, still get a reaction
          when I get a whiff of it.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Now I use a 3M PAPR, even
          when mixing &amp; cleaning up.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">And of course y'all know that
          no mask/filter system will work if one has a lot of facial
          hair...</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Glen Efinger<br clear=3D"none">
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          <div> On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 01:36:56 AM EDT, Joe
            Boruch via Fot <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" class=3D"ydpbb0c60d5yiv6256495401moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote: </div>
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                  <div dir=3D"ltr">Most of the two part urethane paints
                    are hazardous like Imron.&nbsp; The hardener is
                    isocyanate, which can cause severe allergic
                    reactions when inhaled.&nbsp; Once allergic to it, a
                    person can react to it with every exposure.&nbsp;
                    Isocyanate is the chemical that was responsible for
                    the deaths in the Bopal, India chemical disaster
                    many years ago.&nbsp; Be sure to use a good tight fitti=
ng
                    cartridge respirator when spraying these urethanes,
                    but I think most safety instructions say to use a
                    supplied air respirator.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
                  <div><br clear=3D"none">
                  </div>
                </div>
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994340829">
                      <div> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 07:23:56
                        PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot
                        <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" class=3D"ydpbb0c60d5yiv6256495401moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote: </div>
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                              <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Joe.&nbsp; When I bought =
the
                                Imron for my car in 1980, the guy
                                wouldn't sell it to me unless I also
                                bought the respirator he recommended!&nbsp;
                                Strong stuff.</div>
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                              <div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"none">
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                                  <div> On Thursday, September 28, 2023
                                    at 11:33:26 AM EDT, Joe Alexander
                                    <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:joeale=
[email-masked]" class=3D"ydpbb0c60d5yiv6256495401moz-txt-link-rfc2=
396E" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;</a>
                                    wrote: </div>
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                                      <div>In the 70s we were painting
                                        John Deere Tractors in DuPont
                                        Imron. What wasn=E2=80=99t done by
                                        robots was done by painters in
                                        HazMat Suits.<br clear=3D"none">
                                        <br clear=3D"none">
                                        <div dir=3D"ltr">Joe Alexander
                                          <div>4505 Donald Dr</div>
                                          <div>Cedar Falls, IA 50613</div>
                                          <div>The-vintage-racer.com</div>
                                          <div>Gasketinnovations.com</div>
                                          <div>Cell: &nbsp;319.464.4711</di=
v>
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32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890yqt6306304293"><br clear=3D"none">
                                            <blockquote type=3D"cite">On
                                              Sep 28, 2023, at 10:29 AM,
                                              Jack Wheeler via Fot
                                              <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" class=3D"ydpbb0c60d5yiv6256495401moz-txt-link-rfc23=
96E" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                                              wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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                                                <div dir=3D"ltr">I don't
                                                  know if it is even
                                                  still available, but
                                                  years ago I painted
                                                  the frame on my race
                                                  car with Dupont
                                                  Imron.&nbsp; It was the
                                                  most durable paint
                                                  available at the time,
                                                  and my experience
                                                  reflected that.&nbsp; The
                                                  stuff is very toxic,
                                                  so you must use a very
                                                  good respirator.</div>
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=3D"none">
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                                                <div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br cl=
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                                                  <div> On Thursday,
                                                    September 28, 2023
                                                    at 02:28:28 AM EDT,
                                                    Tony Drews via Fot
                                                    <a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"ydpbb0c60d5yiv6256495401moz-txt-lin=
k-rfc2396E" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</=
a>
                                                    wrote: </div>
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                                                        <p>Grey will
                                                          show cracks
                                                          better than
                                                          black.&nbsp; POR =
is
                                                          the first
                                                          thing that
                                                          came to mind
                                                          for me, but
                                                          it's been
                                                          YEARS since I
                                                          used it.</p>
                                                        <p>Cheers, Tony<br =
clear=3D"none">
                                                        </p>
                                                        <div id=3D"ydpbb0c6=
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bb0c60d5yiv6256495401ydp930d2641yiv5943335626ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9ee=
b879fyiv2577320890ydpc738254eyiv2026604046moz-cite-prefix">On
                                                          9/27/2023
                                                          10:21 PM, DAVE
                                                          HOGYE via Fot
                                                          wrote:<br clear=
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nt-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">I'd
                                                          suggest POR
                                                          15.&nbsp; Dependi=
ng
                                                          on the color,
                                                          the number
                                                          changes.&nbsp; I
                                                          think 15 is
                                                          black.&nbsp; Gray
                                                          is something
                                                          else, maybe
                                                          10.&nbsp; Spray o=
r
                                                          brush on.&nbsp;
                                                          I've used
                                                          Rustoleum as
                                                          the touchup
                                                          rattle spray
                                                          cans are
                                                          perfectly
                                                          matched to the
                                                          quart cans,
                                                          and you can
                                                          get it just
                                                          about
                                                          anywhere.&nbsp; P=
OR
                                                          products might
                                                          be a little
                                                          more durable
                                                          than
                                                          Rustoleum.&nbsp; =
If
                                                          the frame is
                                                          bare metal, an
                                                          epoxy primer
                                                          is a good
                                                          start, but
                                                          with POR I
                                                          "think" you
                                                          can skip the
                                                          primer.&nbsp;&nbs=
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                                                          Hi All. <br clear=
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                                                          <div> &nbsp; It's
                                                          been a long
                                                          time since
                                                          I've painted a
                                                          frame and I'm
                                                          just wondering
                                                          what the
                                                          latest /
                                                          greatest thing
                                                          to use is for
                                                          a race car
                                                          frame ? It's
                                                          already&nbsp;sand
                                                          blasted if
                                                          that matters..
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