Subject: Re: [Fot] What kind of event do you prefer for future Kastner Cups? Festival or club events?

From: Mike Jackson via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 14:47:39 -0400

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Yep, it=E2=80=99s a for profit business and current owner knows how to sp=
end money to attract money

He had a lead guy who I knew well but has since passed away. We sat and t=
alked at RRR one =46eb and he told me they wouldn=E2=80=99t even talk to =
a potential sponsor for less than =2450K

And that was before he bought =464, =463 and Trans Am

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On 7/27/23, 11:37 AM, Terry Sopher via =46ot <fot=40autox.team.net> wrote=
:

=46WIW - Not a fan of SVRA after Kcup with them at Mid-Ohio and from my e=
xperience with them prior - they appear to be about chasing =24s=E2=80=A6=

On Jul 27, 2023, at 05:56, Curt Johnston via =46ot <fot=40autox.team.net>=
 wrote:

=EF=BB=BF

Great debate. I agree with Brian Dolan as well that we should have a mix =
of venues. Road America was certainly a destination track for me (2,200 m=
iles from the race shop), and Road Atlanta is on my bucket list too. But =
the track time was extremely limited. I think the KC race was only seven =
laps.

=46or 2023, my personal preference would have been to run the event with =
CSRG, the local club at Sonoma Raceway. But their races are being held in=
 the spring and fall (March and Sept/Oct/Nov) which seems problematic for=
 those making tows over the mountains passes. SVRA had the later date we =
needed being the last weekend in April, plus they run at Laguna Seca the =
very next weekend. Note, we can not get a Kastner Cup race at Laguna with=
 SVRA; the event is just too big.

I'll work with SVRA to maximize the track time for =46OT at Sonoma and re=
port out as soon as possible. I can tell you that if you can make the tow=
, you will not be disappointed. Sonoma and Laguna Seca should be on your =
bucket list.

If we have enough folks attending both events, we should be able to organ=
ize some group activities in the wine country or Monterey during the week=
days. The tracks are only about two hours apart, and SVRA accommodates tr=
ailer storage for racers running both events. If that's not enough, Sonom=
a Raceway held an open testing day this year the =46riday before the SVRA=
 race.....seven hours of unlimited track time=21

Curt Johnston

curt.johnston=40comcast.net (mailto:curt.johnston=40comcast.net)

707-249-1667

On 07/26/2023 10:20 AM PDT yellow04 via =46ot <fot=40autox.team.net> wrot=
e:

I meant to change the subject line of this post, sorry for the repeat.

We are not really looking for suggestions on specific events, we are tryi=
ng to get a feel for what kind of event the Triumph racers would prefer t=
o run future Kastner Cup events, big festival events or more intimate clu=
b events. Brian Dolan's reply was spot on, thanks Brian=21

Plus, if somebody feels strongly about us going to a specific (bucketlist=
=3F) track, by all means toss that out here too=21 =46or example, I would=
 love to get back to Road Atlanta.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM yellow04 via =46ot <fot=40autox.=
team.net (mailto:fot=40autox.team.net)> wrote:

This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of event we

racers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main options

are the smaller club events, or the big festival events.

Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are many

aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of

event. We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, check

out cars we don't typically run with, and get some insight on how our

cars run against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the

fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of events are

as follows:

=46estival Events

Typically higher entrance fees.

Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the schedule with a

wide variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the possibility

of incidents, shortening sessions.

Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little flexibility

with the packed schedule.

Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in general from

a wide variety of media.

=7E

Club Events

Typically lower entrance fees.

More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run

group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't

usually have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being piloted

by guys with big checkbooks and limited experience.

Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but good

exposure from the normal sources.

=7E

I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time is the

biggest draw for an event. I also look at the value, the anticipated

track miles raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000 people is

all fine and good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer

friends share this general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the

success of the 2023 event where we had strong numbers in general, and

very strong numbers for racers with very long tows.

Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would prefer

future Kastner Cup events to be held=3F =46estival events or Club events=3F=

While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to run

at=3F That would be helpful information as well=21

Cheers

Henry =46rye

On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via =46ot wrote:

> I suppose it wouldn't have to be. However the Mitty is attended very

> well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was last ran

> at Road Atlanta.

> Ronnie

>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, chasgee22=40gmail.com (mailto:chasgee22=40=
gmail.com) wrote:

>> Would it have to be at the Mitty=3F

>> Chuck

>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via =46ot

>>> <fot=40autox.team.net (mailto:fot=40autox.team.net)> wrote:

>>> Is there any consideration to bringing the KCUP back to Road Atlanta =
during the Mitty.

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<p class=3D=22p1=22><span class=3D=22s1=22>Yep, it=E2=80=99s a for profit=
 business and current owner knows how to spend money to attract money</sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D=22p2=22><span class=3D=22s1=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p1=22><span class=3D=22s1=22>He had a lead guy who I knew w=
ell but has since passed away. We sat and talked at RRR one =46eb and he =
told me they wouldn=E2=80=99t even talk to a potential sponsor for less t=
han =2450K</span></p>
<p class=3D=22p2=22><span class=3D=22s1=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p1=22><span class=3D=22s1=22>And that was before he bought =
=464, =463 and Trans Am</span></p>
<p class=3D=22p2=22><span class=3D=22s1=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p1=22><span class=3D=22s1=22>Sent from EarthLink Mobile mai=
l</span></p>
<p class=3D=22p2=22><span class=3D=22s1=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p1=22><span class=3D=22s1=22>On 7/27/23, 11:37 AM, Terry So=
pher via =46ot &lt;fot=40autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<p class=3D=22p2=22><span class=3D=22s1=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>=46WIW - Not a fan of SVRA aft=
er Kcup with them at Mid-Ohio and from my experience with them prior - th=
ey appear to be about chasing =24s=E2=80=A6</span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>On Jul 27, 2023, at 05:56, Cur=
t Johnston via =46ot &lt;fot=40autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>=EF=BB=BF</span></p>
<p class=3D=22p5=22><span class=3D=22s3=22>Great debate.=C2=A0 I agree wi=
th Brian Dolan as well that we should have a mix of venues.=C2=A0 Road Am=
erica was certainly a destination track for me (2,200 miles from the race=
 shop), and Road Atlanta is on my bucket list too.=C2=A0 But the track ti=
me was extremely limited.=C2=A0 I think the KC race was only seven laps.<=
span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p5=22><span class=3D=22s3=22>=C2=A0<span class=3D=22Apple-c=
onverted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p5=22><span class=3D=22s3=22>=46or 2023, my personal prefer=
ence would have been to run the event with CSRG, the local club at Sonoma=
 Raceway.=C2=A0 But their races are being held in the spring and fall (Ma=
rch and Sept/Oct/Nov) which seems problematic for those making tows over =
the mountains passes.=C2=A0 SVRA had the later date we needed being the l=
ast weekend in April, plus they run at Laguna Seca the very next weekend.=
=C2=A0 Note, we can not get a Kastner Cup race at Laguna with SVRA; the e=
vent is just too big.<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</sp=
an></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p5=22><span class=3D=22s3=22>=C2=A0<span class=3D=22Apple-c=
onverted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p5=22><span class=3D=22s3=22>I'll work with SVRA to maximiz=
e the track time for =46OT at Sonoma and report out as soon as possible.=C2=
=A0 I can tell you that if you can make the tow, you will not be disappoi=
nted.=C2=A0 Sonoma and Laguna Seca should be on your bucket list.=C2=A0<s=
pan class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p5=22><span class=3D=22s3=22>=C2=A0<span class=3D=22Apple-c=
onverted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p5=22><span class=3D=22s3=22>If we have enough folks attend=
ing both events, we should be able to organize some group activities in t=
he wine country or Monterey during the weekdays.=C2=A0 The tracks are onl=
y about two hours apart, and SVRA accommodates trailer storage for racers=
 running both events.=C2=A0 If that's not enough, Sonoma Raceway held an =
open testing day this year the =46riday before the SVRA race.....seven ho=
urs of unlimited track time=21<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=
=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p5=22><span class=3D=22s3=22>=C2=A0<span class=3D=22Apple-c=
onverted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p5=22><span class=3D=22s3=22>Curt Johnston<span class=3D=22=
Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p6=22><span class=3D=22s4=22><a href=3D=22mailto:curt.johns=
ton=40comcast.net=22>curt.johnston=40comcast.net</a></span><span class=3D=
=22s5=22><span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></=
p>
<p class=3D=22p5=22><span class=3D=22s3=22>707-249-1667<span class=3D=22A=
pple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>On 07/26/2023 10:20 AM PDT yel=
low04 via =46ot &lt;fot=40autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<span class=3D=22Apple=
-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>=C2=A0<span class=3D=22Apple-c=
onverted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>=C2=A0<span class=3D=22Apple-c=
onverted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>I meant to change the subject =
line of this post, sorry for the repeat.<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-=
space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>=C2=A0<span class=3D=22Apple-c=
onverted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>We are not really looking for =
suggestions on specific events, we are trying to get a feel for what kind=
 of event the Triumph racers would prefer to run future Kastner Cup event=
s, big festival events or more intimate club events. Brian Dolan's reply =
was spot on, thanks Brian=21<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=
=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>=C2=A0<span class=3D=22Apple-c=
onverted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Plus, if somebody feels strong=
ly about us going to a specific (bucketlist=3F) track, by all means toss =
that out here too=21 =46or example, I would love to get back to Road Atla=
nta.<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>=C2=A0<span class=3D=22Apple-c=
onverted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:06=E2=
=80=AFPM yellow04 via =46ot &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:fot=40autox.team.net=22=
><span class=3D=22s6=22>fot=40autox.team.net</span></a>&gt; wrote:<span c=
lass=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>This seems like a good time to=
 get a feel for the kind of event we<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-spac=
e=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>racers want to run our future =
Kastner Cups with. The two main options<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-s=
pace=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>are the smaller club events, o=
r the big festival events.<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0=
</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Having competed at several Kas=
tner Cup events, I can say there are many<span class=3D=22Apple-converted=
-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>aspects of the weekend that ar=
e the same regardless of the type of<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-spac=
e=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>event. We get to meet and ming=
le with new racers and old friends, check<span class=3D=22Apple-converted=
-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>out cars we don't typically ru=
n with, and get some insight on how our<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-s=
pace=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>cars run against other Triumph=
s. All the great stuff that makes up the<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-=
space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>fun. However, the differences =
I see between the two types of events are<span class=3D=22Apple-converted=
-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>as follows:<span class=3D=22Ap=
ple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>=46estival Events<span class=3D=
=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Typically higher entrance fees=
.<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Less track time because the sa=
nctioning body loads the schedule with a<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-=
space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>wide variety of race groups. W=
ith more cars, the higher the possibility<span class=3D=22Apple-converted=
-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>of incidents, shortening sessi=
ons.<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Organizers have less negotiati=
ng power as there is little flexibility<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-s=
pace=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>with the packed schedule.<span=
 class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Possibly more exposure to the =
Marque and vintage racing in general from<span class=3D=22Apple-converted=
-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>a wide variety of media.<span =
class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>=7E<span class=3D=22Apple-conv=
erted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Club Events<span class=3D=22Ap=
ple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Typically lower entrance fees.=
<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>More track time, more flexibil=
ity in negotiating perks like our own run<span class=3D=22Apple-converted=
-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>group, a second All Triumph (R=
eunion) Race, etc. Club events don't<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-spac=
e=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>usually have run groups of 5 y=
ear old former NASCAR racers being piloted<span class=3D=22Apple-converte=
d-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>by guys with big checkbooks an=
d limited experience.<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</sp=
an></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Limited media exposure compare=
d to a major festival event, but good<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-spa=
ce=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>exposure from the normal sourc=
es.<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>=7E<span class=3D=22Apple-conv=
erted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>I'll start. I'm all about driv=
ing the car. To me, track time is the<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-spa=
ce=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>biggest draw for an event. I a=
lso look at the value, the anticipated<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-sp=
ace=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>track miles raced vs the entry=
 fees. Racing in front of 10,000 people is<span class=3D=22Apple-converte=
d-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>all fine and good, but not a d=
raw for me at all. Many of my racer<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=
=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>friends share this general opi=
nion with me, but we can't ignore the<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-spa=
ce=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>success of the 2023 event wher=
e we had strong numbers in general, and<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-s=
pace=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>very strong numbers for racers=
 with very long tows.<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</sp=
an></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Can we get an idea of what typ=
e of events active racers would prefer<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-sp=
ace=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>future Kastner Cup events to b=
e held=3F =46estival events or Club events=3F<span class=3D=22Apple-conve=
rted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>While we are at it, is there a=
ny track somebody has a hankering to run<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-=
space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>at=3F That would be helpful in=
formation as well=21<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</spa=
n></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Cheers<span class=3D=22Apple-c=
onverted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>Henry =46rye<span class=3D=22A=
pple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p3=22><span class=3D=22s2=22></span><br></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Ba=
bbitt via =46ot wrote:<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</s=
pan></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt; I suppose it wouldn't hav=
e to be. However the Mitty is attended very<span class=3D=22Apple-convert=
ed-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt; well. The track has had m=
any improvements since the KCup was last ran<span class=3D=22Apple-conver=
ted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt; at Road Atlanta.<span cla=
ss=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;<span class=3D=22Apple-con=
verted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt; Ronnie<span class=3D=22Ap=
ple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;<span class=3D=22Apple-con=
verted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;&gt; On Jul 25, 2023, at 1=
1:21 PM, <a href=3D=22mailto:chasgee22=40gmail.com=22><span class=3D=22s6=
=22>chasgee22=40gmail.com</span></a> wrote:<span class=3D=22Apple-convert=
ed-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;&gt;<span class=3D=22Apple=
-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;&gt; Would it have to be a=
t the Mitty=3F<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;&gt;<span class=3D=22Apple=
-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;&gt; Chuck<span class=3D=22=
Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;&gt;<span class=3D=22Apple=
-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;&gt;&gt; On Jul 25, 2023, =
at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via =46ot<span class=3D=22Apple-converted-spac=
e=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p7=22><span class=3D=22s7=22>&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D=22=
mailto:fot=40autox.team.net=22><span class=3D=22s6=22>fot=40autox.team.ne=
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span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;&gt;&gt;<span class=3D=22A=
pple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
<p class=3D=22p4=22><span class=3D=22s2=22>&gt;&gt;&gt; Is there any cons=
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n class=3D=22Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span></p>
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