Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 5 speed conversion

From: fubog1 via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 14:27:59 +0000 (UTC)

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 I know it is not =E2=80=9Clegal for vintage=E2=80=9D
 Cons, well there's that I guess...
Properly set up with good parts, these boxes are pretty robust.What's faili=
ng?
Also if you have an early box, the later 6 boxes are better/stronger, bette=
r to build up on them.
Glen Efinger.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Moore via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: FOT <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, Jun 6, 2023 9:08 am
Subject: [Fot] TR4 5 speed conversion

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ble, but this is costing too much, and I am missing too much track time at =
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version. Looking at the Vitesse Mazda conversion.  =C2=A0 I know it is not =
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budget!!=C2=A0 (Don=E2=80=99t know what my budget is)  =C2=A0  =C2=A0  =C2=
=A0 Thanks, Mike  =C2=A0 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car  =C2=A0 Mike &=
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<div> <font size=3D"2">Cons, well there's that I guess...</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"2">Properly set up with good parts, these boxes are pret=
ty robust.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">What's failing?<br>
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<div><font size=3D"2">Also if you have an early box, the later 6 boxes are =
better/stronger, better to build up on them.</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"2">Glen Efinger.<br>
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From: Michael Moore via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: FOT &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, Jun 6, 2023 9:08 am<br>
Subject: [Fot] TR4 5 speed conversion<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal">FOT members, I am at my breaking poin=
t with transmissions for my racing TR4, six rebuilds in past 4 years, the l=
ast 4 professionally. I try to keep my car as original as possible, but thi=
s is costing too much, and I am missing too much
 track time at races.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal">For RACING only, can anyone give me p=
ros and cons of the conversion. Looking at the Vitesse Mazda conversion.</d=
iv>
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal">I know it is not =E2=80=9Clegal for v=
intage=E2=80=9D but I still want to race and within my budget!!&nbsp; (Don=
=E2=80=99t know what my budget is)
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"color:red;">Thanks,=
 Mike</span></i></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;"> &nbsp;</s=
pan></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;">62 TR4, Ra=
ce car</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;">63 TR4, St=
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;"> &nbsp;</s=
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;">Mike &amp;=
 Becky Moore</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;">6050 Ruhl =
Road, Fairview, PA 16415</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5711730096MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;">814-323-06=
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 10:38:22 -0500

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">What is breaking? Been racing since 96 with=
 TR transmissions with no catastrophic failures.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">O=
n Jun 6, 2023, at 8:56 AM, Michael Moore via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; w=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">FOT members, I am at my breaking point with transmiss=
ions for my racing TR4, six rebuilds in past 4 years, the last 4 professiona=
lly. I try to keep my car as original as possible, but this is costing too m=
uch, and I am missing too much
 track time at races.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">For RACING only, can anyone give me pros and cons of t=
he conversion. Looking at the Vitesse Mazda conversion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I know it is not =E2=80=9Clegal for vintage=E2=80=9D b=
ut I still want to race and within my budget!!&nbsp; (Don=E2=80=99t know wha=
t my budget is)
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">Thank=
s, Mike<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">62 TR4, R=
ace car<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">63 TR4, S=
treet car<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">Mike &am=
p; Becky Moore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">6050 Ruh=
l Road, Fairview, PA 16415<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">814-323-=
0698<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none"><a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:#0563C1">mmoore@mtmcpafi=
rm.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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From: "Barr, Scott via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 16:05:07 +0000

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Right on time, it's the spring transmission debate!  :-)

For my street/track days GT6 (Col. Mustard), I used a Toyota gearbox conver=
sion from Conversion Components in New Zealand.  There was a little weirdne=
ss with the badly sized slave cylinder, but other than that I was very happ=
y with the kit.  I have no idea whether he's still in business, as this was=
 a pretty long time ago now.

Like you, I got damned tired of changing the trans.  I got it down to where=
 I could have the old one out and the new one in in under two hours.  Got t=
ired of that.

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Michael Moore via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 8:08 AM
To: FOT <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Fot] TR4 5 speed conversion

FOT members, I am at my breaking point with transmissions for my racing TR4=
, six rebuilds in past 4 years, the last 4 professionally. I try to keep my=
 car as original as possible, but this is costing too much, and I am missin=
g too much track time at races.

For RACING only, can anyone give me pros and cons of the conversion. Lookin=
g at the Vitesse Mazda conversion.

I know it is not "legal for vintage" but I still want to race and within my=
 budget!!  (Don't know what my budget is)

Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

Mike & Becky Moore
6050 Ruhl Road, Fairview, PA 16415
814-323-0698

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Right on time, it&#8217;s the spring transmission de=
bate!&nbsp; :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">For my street/track days GT6 (Col. Mustard), I used =
a Toyota gearbox conversion from Conversion Components in New Zealand.&nbsp=
; There was a little weirdness with the badly sized slave cylinder, but oth=
er than that I was very happy with the
 kit.&nbsp; I have no idea whether he&#8217;s still in business, as this wa=
s a pretty long time ago now.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Like you, I got damned tired of changing the trans.&=
nbsp; I got it down to where I could have the old one out and the new one i=
n in under two hours.&nbsp; Got tired of that.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Scott (B.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></=
b><span style=3D"mso-ligatures:none"> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Moore via Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 6, 2023 8:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> FOT &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Fot] TR4 5 speed conversion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">FOT members, I am at my breaking point with transmis=
sions for my racing TR4, six rebuilds in past 4 years, the last 4 professio=
nally. I try to keep my car as original as possible, but this is costing to=
o much, and I am missing too much
 track time at races.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">For RACING only, can anyone give me pros and cons of=
 the conversion. Looking at the Vitesse Mazda conversion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I know it is not &#8220;legal for vintage&#8221; but=
 I still want to race and within my budget!!&nbsp; (Don&#8217;t know what m=
y budget is)
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">Than=
ks, Mike<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">62 TR4,=
 Race car<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">63 TR4,=
 Street car<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">Mike &a=
mp; Becky Moore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">6050 Ru=
hl Road, Fairview, PA 16415<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:red;mso-ligatures:none">814-323=
-0698<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><o:p></o:p></spa=
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