Subject: Re: [Fot] Garmin Catalyst- anyone tried it?

From: David Cutter via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 07:43:45 -0400

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I borrowed one for a test and tune a while back.  While it does all the
expected data collection, the really interesting function is the AI-based
driver coaching that kicks in after 2-3 laps.  It seemed to work as my
sector times improved.  Is it worth $799?...well here is what Sam Smith has
to say:

https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst/

Disclaimer:  I am not a dentist and I drive a Spitfire.  :-)

Cheers, Dave

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> Hi folks. A friend who races an MG, just asked me what I know about the
> Garmin Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track Addict) to
> collect data and find it helpful but have no real world experience with
> anything else.
>
> The Garmin seems expensive, more like something you'd find in a dentist's
> track day Porsche but his wife wants to know if he'd like it for his
> birthday.
>
> Anyone use this or a similar all-in-one device that I could recommend to
> him ?
>
> thanks
> mike h
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I borrowed one for a test and tune a while back.=C2=A0 Whi=
le it does all the expected data collection, the really interesting functio=
n is the AI-based driver coaching that kicks in after 2-3 laps.=C2=A0 It se=
emed to work as my sector times improved.=C2=A0 Is it worth $799?...well he=
re is what Sam Smith has to say:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.=
hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst/">https://www.hagerty.=
com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst/</a><br></div><div><br></div><=
div>Disclaimer:=C2=A0 I am not a dentist and I drive a Spitfire.=C2=A0 :-)<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, Dave</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 7:54=E2=80=AFPM Mike H=
armuth via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi folks. A friend who races an MG, just asked me what I k=
now about the Garmin Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track=
 Addict) to collect data and find it helpful=C2=A0but have no real world ex=
perience with anything else.<div><br></div><div>The Garmin seems expensive,=
 more like something you&#39;d find in a dentist&#39;s track day Porsche bu=
t his wife wants to know if he&#39;d like it for his birthday.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Anyone use this or a similar=C2=A0all-in-one device that I cou=
ld recommend to him ?=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>thanks</div><div>mike =
h<br><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/690726?u=
tm_source=3Dfacebook&amp;utm_medium=3Dpaidsocial-link&amp;utm_campaign=3Dau=
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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 09:23:40 -0400

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interesting, though I wonder how I would hear the coaching - ear buds =
under my helmet, over the noise of an unmuffled exhaust?
Be cool to try it out as I=E2=80=99m sure I could use coaching!=20

On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:43 AM, David Cutter via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

I borrowed one for a test and tune a while back.  While it does all the =
expected data collection, the really interesting function is the =
AI-based driver coaching that kicks in after 2-3 laps.  It seemed to =
work as my sector times improved.  Is it worth $799?...well here is what =
Sam Smith has to say:

https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst/ =
<https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst/>

Cheers, Dave

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 7:54=E2=80=AFPM Mike Harmuth via Fot =
Hi folks. A friend who races an MG, just asked me what I know about the =
Garmin Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track Addict) to =
collect data and find it helpful but have no real world experience with =
anything else.

The Garmin seems expensive, more like something you'd find in a =
dentist's track day Porsche but his wife wants to know if he'd like it =
for his birthday.

Anyone use this or a similar all-in-one device that I could recommend to =
him ?=20

thanks
mike h

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ear buds under my helmet, over the noise of an unmuffled exhaust?<div =
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coaching!&nbsp;<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Apr =
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dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">I borrowed one for a test and tune a while =
back.&nbsp; While it does all the expected data collection, the really =
interesting function is the AI-based driver coaching that kicks in after =
2-3 laps.&nbsp; It seemed to work as my sector times improved.&nbsp; Is =
it worth $799?...well here is what Sam Smith has to say:<div =
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Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track Addict) to =
collect data and find it helpful&nbsp;but have no real world experience =
with anything else.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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class=3D"">Anyone use this or a similar&nbsp;all-in-one device that I =
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Mike,
       My dad and I own a AIM Solo 2 GPS data logger (the basic Solo 2, not
the one with modern ECU inputs).  We have a steering wheel mounting bracket
on each car, and have used it for some basic comparisons on my laptop after
sessions.  We have yet to fully take advantage of everything it can do, but
it's a cool gadget.  It also functions as a  lap timer/speedometer display
in use.  A quick glance down after passing start/finish shows lap times.

Jason

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Mike,<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0My dad and I own a AI=
M Solo 2 GPS data logger (the basic Solo 2, not the one with modern ECU inp=
uts).=C2=A0 We have a steering wheel mounting bracket on each car, and have=
 used it for some basic comparisons on my laptop after sessions.=C2=A0 We h=
ave yet to fully take advantage of everything=C2=A0it can do, but it&#39;s =
a cool gadget.=C2=A0 It also functions as a=C2=A0 lap timer/speedometer dis=
play in use.=C2=A0 A quick glance down after passing start/finish shows lap=
 times.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Jason</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 4, 2023=
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am.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi folks. A friend who races an =
MG, just asked me what I know about the Garmin Catalyst track recorder. I u=
se a cell phone app (Track Addict) to collect data and find it helpful=C2=
=A0but have no real world experience with anything else.<div><br></div><div=
>The Garmin seems expensive, more like something you&#39;d find in a dentis=
t&#39;s track day Porsche but his wife wants to know if he&#39;d like it fo=
r his birthday.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyone use this or a similar=C2=A0=
all-in-one device that I could recommend to him ?=C2=A0</div><div><br></div=
><div>thanks</div><div>mike h<br><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www=
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From: Joe Boruch via Fot <[email-masked]>
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 There is a short thread on the Prod Car forums about the Garmin.=C2=A0 Her=
e is the link.=C2=A0 JoeB
http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?f=3D7&t=3D20214

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 interesting, though I wonder how I would hear the coaching - ear buds unde=
r my helmet, over the noise of an unmuffled exhaust?Be cool to try it out a=
s I=E2=80=99m sure I could use coaching!=C2=A0

On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:43 AM, David Cutter via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
I borrowed one for a test and tune a while back.=C2=A0 While it does all th=
e expected data collection, the really interesting function is the AI-based=
 driver coaching that kicks in after 2-3 laps.=C2=A0 It seemed to work as m=
y sector times improved.=C2=A0 Is it worth $799?...well here is what Sam Sm=
ith has to say:
https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst/

Disclaimer:=C2=A0 I am not a dentist and I drive a Spitfire.=C2=A0 :-)
Cheers, Dave

.net> wrote:

Hi folks. A friend who races an MG, just asked me what I know about the Gar=
min Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track Addict) to colle=
ct data and find it helpful=C2=A0but have no real world experience with any=
thing else.
The Garmin seems expensive, more like something you'd find in a dentist's t=
rack day Porsche but his wife wants to know if he'd like it for his birthda=
y.
Anyone use this or a similar=C2=A0all-in-one device that I could recommend =
to him ?=C2=A0
thanksmike h

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                    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 11:30:10 AM EDT, Scott Ja=
nzen via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"><div>interesting,=
 though I wonder how I would hear the coaching - ear buds under my helmet, =
over the noise of an unmuffled exhaust?<div class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv59778029=
14">Be cool to try it out as I=E2=80=99m sure I could use coaching!&nbsp;<b=
r clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"><div><br clear=3D"none"=
 class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"><div id=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914yqtf=
d55649" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914yqt1301710658"><div class=3D"ydpf6=
cbced8yiv5977802914">On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:43 AM, David Cutter via Fot &lt;<=
a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv=
5977802914" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:</div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914Apple-interc=
hange-newline"></div><div class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"><div id=3D"ydp=
f6cbced8yiv5977802914yqtfd09566" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914yqt130171=
0658"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914">I borrowed one fo=
r a test and tune a while back.&nbsp; While it does all the expected data c=
ollection, the really interesting function is the AI-based driver coaching =
that kicks in after 2-3 laps.&nbsp; It seemed to work as my sector times im=
proved.&nbsp; Is it worth $799?...well here is what Sam Smith has to say:<d=
iv class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf6cbce=
d8yiv5977802914"></div><div class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"><a shape=3D"=
rect" href=3D"https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catal=
yst/" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst/</a><br c=
lear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"></div><div class=3D"ydpf6c=
bced8yiv5977802914"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"><=
/div><div class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914">Disclaimer:&nbsp; I am not a d=
entist and I drive a Spitfire.&nbsp; :-)</div><div class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5=
977802914"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"></div><div=
 class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914">Cheers, Dave</div><div class=3D"ydpf6cb=
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div><div class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp=
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ed8yiv5977802914gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 7:54=E2=80=AFPM Mike Har=
muth via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=
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_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914">Hi folks. A fri=
end who races an MG, just asked me what I know about the Garmin Catalyst tr=
ack recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track Addict) to collect data and fin=
d it helpful&nbsp;but have no real world experience with anything else.<div=
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yiv5977802914"></div><div class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914">The Garmin see=
ms expensive, more like something you'd find in a dentist's track day Porsc=
he but his wife wants to know if he'd like it for his birthday.</div><div c=
lass=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yi=
v5977802914"></div><div class=3D"ydpf6cbced8yiv5977802914">Anyone use this =
or a similar&nbsp;all-in-one device that I could recommend to him ?&nbsp;</=
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Last year at the Jefferson 500 I had three great sessions with a guy
running a Porch 914 who had one of these. We had a fun debrief after
each session, and after the feature race he pulls his Garmin Catalyst
out of his car and showed me what it captured (other than lots of video
of my bootlid!) and a lot of the things they covered in the Hagerty
article. It looked extremely helpful, but the one thing I don't remember
him mentioning was the live coaching feature. I can only wonder why...  

I really liked what I saw, but the research revealed two showstoppers,
the unit can not get wet and the camera has a very specific spot it
needs to be mounted. Naturally, that spot is where the rear view mirror
on the windscreen goes, so strike two. In my case, game over.  

So my data acquisition program remains a knock-off Go-Pro camera that I
neglect to turn on at least half the time! 

Henry  

On 2023-04-06 09:23, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:

> interesting, though I wonder how I would hear the coaching - ear buds under my helmet, over the noise of an unmuffled exhaust? 
> Be cool to try it out as I'm sure I could use coaching! 
> 
> On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:43 AM, David Cutter wrote: 
> 
> I borrowed one for a test and tune a while back.  While it does all the expected data collection, the really interesting function is the AI-based driver coaching that kicks in after 2-3 laps.  It seemed to work as my sector times improved.  Is it worth $799?...well here is what Sam Smith has to say: 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 7:54 PM Mike Harmuth via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote: 
> 
>> Hi folks. A friend who races an MG, just asked me what I know about the Garmin Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track Addict) to collect data and find it helpful but have no real world experience with anything else. 
>> 
>> The Garmin seems expensive, more like something you'd find in a dentist's track day Porsche but his wife wants to know if he'd like it for his birthday. 
>> 
>> Anyone use this or a similar all-in-one device that I could recommend to him ?
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<p>Last year at the Jefferson 500 I had three great sessions with a guy run=
ning a Porch 914 who had one of these. We had a fun debrief after each sess=
ion, and after the feature race he pulls his Garmin Catalyst out of his car=
 and showed me what it captured (other than lots of video of my bootlid!) a=
nd a lot of the things they covered in the Hagerty article. It looked extre=
mely helpful, but the one thing I don't remember him mentioning was the liv=
e coaching feature. I can only wonder why...&nbsp;</p>
<p>I really liked what I saw, but the research revealed two showstoppers, t=
he unit can not get wet and the camera has a very specific spot it needs to=
 be mounted. Naturally, that spot is where the rear view mirror on the wind=
screen goes, so strike two. In my case, game over.&nbsp;</p>
<p>So my data acquisition program remains a knock-off Go-Pro camera that I =
neglect to turn on at least half the time!</p>
<p>Henry&nbsp;</p>
<p id=3D"v1reply-intro">On 2023-04-06 09:23, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:</p=
<blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2=
px solid; margin: 0">
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<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: =
after-white-space;">interesting, though I wonder how I would hear the coach=
ing - ear buds under my helmet, over the noise of an unmuffled exhaust?
<div>Be cool to try it out as I'm sure I could use coaching!&nbsp;<br />
<div><br />
<div>On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:43 AM, David Cutter wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"v1v1Apple-interchange-newline" />
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I borrowed one for a test and tune a while back.&nbsp; Whi=
le it does all the expected data collection, the really interesting functio=
n is the AI-based driver coaching that kicks in after 2-3 laps.&nbsp; It se=
emed to work as my sector times improved.&nbsp; Is it worth $799?...well he=
re is what Sam Smith has to say:
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><a href=3D"https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-cat=
alyst/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer">https://www.hagerty=
=2Ecom/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst/</a></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
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<div class=3D"v1v1gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 7:54=E2=80=
=AFPM Mike Harmuth via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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order-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi folks. A friend who races an MG, just asked me what I k=
now about the Garmin Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track=
 Addict) to collect data and find it helpful&nbsp;but have no real world ex=
perience with anything else.
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The Garmin seems expensive, more like something you'd find in a dentis=
t's track day Porsche but his wife wants to know if he'd like it for his bi=
rthday.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Anyone use this or a similar&nbsp;all-in-one device that I could recom=
mend to him ?&nbsp;</div>
</div>
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Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2023 13:22:38 +0000 (UTC)

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For a poor man=E2=80=99s data acquisition system, we are using the Track Ad=
dict app, available with any smartphone. =C2=A0I have mine rigged up on a K=
indle tablet of all things, and am using a 10hz external GPS receiver. =C2=
=A0(Phones usually have 1 hz which works, but not ideal.). =C2=A0I find thi=
s gives great information for short money, and the bonus is that if you hav=
e a chance to glance down, it gives you split times and green/red if you ar=
e faster or slower that split. =C2=A0Not to worry; I am not reading =E2=80=
=9CThe Last Open Road=E2=80=9D down the straights; although might give me s=
omething to do at RA. =C2=A0
=C2=A0Comparing data afterwards helps us greatly. =C2=A0(I have my Kindle m=
ounted in the Speedometer position). =C2=A0 You can also set the app to tur=
n on/off your GoPro, and it will sync up data to the video if you later com=
bine with Race Render on a PC/Mac.
Fast forward to stuff from the autocross world, there is an app called Solo=
storm which downloads video and overlays the data gathered real time, compa=
ring drivers on the spot, between runs even. =C2=A0 Awesome. =C2=A0They jus=
t released a track version; check out Petral Data systems. =C2=A0Haven=E2=
=80=99t tried the track version yet, but after years of not spending the mo=
ney on the software, I=E2=80=99m now kicking myself for not getting it soon=
er, with its instant feedback. =C2=A0TrackAddict can do almost the same, bu=
t requires more fiddling=E2=80=A6. And can compare afterwards to see what w=
as happening when, g force, top speeds, segment times, braking points and s=
trengths, etc. =C2=A0
It was super interesting to see the data comparison between the #80 and 114=
 TR4=E2=80=99s with the same driver; one had an 11 mph advantage at exit of=
 the last turn at Thompson, but gave up in gearing later on, and also in sp=
eed around the hairpin. =C2=A0(Quaife vs welded diff). =C2=A0Super interest=
ing!
Having the split times displayed real time with TrackAddict=C2=A0helped me =
at the Glen realize I could hold turn 1 in 4th gear, and only lose a tenth =
or two; also helped not having a shift later; top speed was the same into t=
he bus stop and at the top of the esses. =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0I was likely ov=
erslowing=C2=A0downshifting to third, but since I couldn=E2=80=99t shift, =
=C2=A0I found out how to carry speed to hold 4th=E2=80=A6. LOL. =C2=A0 (Was=
 the nascar configuration). =C2=A0I used to shun data, as =E2=80=9Ctoo much=
 info=E2=80=9D but now I see the wisdom, and it helped me real time with th=
e proper tools.
Hope that helps!Dave Gott

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Friday, April 7, 2023, 7:33 AM, yellow04 via Fot <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

Last year at the Jefferson 500 I had three great sessions with a guy runnin=
g a Porch 914 who had one of these. We had a fun debrief after each session=
, and after the feature race he pulls his Garmin Catalyst out of his car an=
d showed me what it captured (other than lots of video of my bootlid!) and =
a lot of the things they covered in the Hagerty article. It looked extremel=
y helpful, but the one thing I don't remember him mentioning was the live c=
oaching feature. I can only wonder why...=C2=A0

I really liked what I saw, but the research revealed two showstoppers, the =
unit can not get wet and the camera has a very specific spot it needs to be=
 mounted. Naturally, that spot is where the rear view mirror on the windscr=
een goes, so strike two. In my case, game over.=C2=A0

So my data acquisition program remains a knock-off Go-Pro camera that I neg=
lect to turn on at least half the time!

Henry=C2=A0

interesting, though I wonder how I would hear the coaching - ear buds under=
 my helmet, over the noise of an unmuffled exhaust?Be cool to try it out as=
 I'm sure I could use coaching!=C2=A0

On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:43 AM, David Cutter wrote:
I borrowed one for a test and tune a while back.=C2=A0 While it does all th=
e expected data collection, the really interesting function is the AI-based=
 driver coaching that kicks in after 2-3 laps.=C2=A0 It seemed to work as m=
y sector times improved.=C2=A0 Is it worth $799?...well here is what Sam Sm=
ith has to say:=C2=A0https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmi=
n-catalyst/=C2=A0
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 7:54=E2=80=AFPM Mike Harmuth via Fot <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:
Hi folks. A friend who races an MG, just asked me what I know about the Gar=
min Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track Addict) to colle=
ct data and find it helpful=C2=A0but have no real world experience with any=
thing else.=C2=A0The Garmin seems expensive, more like something you'd find=
 in a dentist's track day Porsche but his wife wants to know if he'd like i=
t for his birthday.=C2=A0Anyone use this or a similar=C2=A0all-in-one devic=
e that I could recommend to him ?=C2=A0

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For a poor man=E2=80=99s data acquisition system, we are using the Track Ad=
dict app, available with any smartphone. &nbsp;I have mine rigged up on a K=
indle tablet of all things, and am using a 10hz external GPS receiver. &nbs=
p;(Phones usually have 1 hz which works, but not ideal.). &nbsp;I find this=
 gives great information for short money, and the bonus is that if you have=
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 faster or slower that split. &nbsp;Not to worry; I am not reading =E2=80=
=9CThe Last Open Road=E2=80=9D down the straights; although might give me s=
omething to do at RA. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>&nbsp;Comparing data afterw=
ards helps us greatly. &nbsp;(I have my Kindle mounted in the Speedometer p=
osition). &nbsp; You can also set the app to turn on/off your GoPro, and it=
 will sync up data to the video if you later combine with Race Render on a =
PC/Mac.<div><br></div><div>Fast forward to stuff from the autocross world, =
there is an app called Solostorm which downloads video and overlays the dat=
a gathered real time, comparing drivers on the spot, between runs even. &nb=
sp; Awesome. &nbsp;They just released a track version; check out Petral Dat=
a systems. &nbsp;Haven=E2=80=99t tried the track version yet, but after yea=
rs of not spending the money on the software, I=E2=80=99m now kicking mysel=
f for not getting it sooner, with its instant feedback. &nbsp;TrackAddict c=
an do almost the same, but requires more fiddling=E2=80=A6. And can compare=
 afterwards to see what was happening when, g force, top speeds, segment ti=
mes, braking points and strengths, etc. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>It =
was super interesting to see the data comparison between the #80 and 114 TR=
4=E2=80=99s with the same driver; one had an 11 mph advantage at exit of th=
e last turn at Thompson, but gave up in gearing later on, and also in speed=
 around the hairpin. &nbsp;(Quaife vs welded diff). &nbsp;Super interesting=
!</div><div><br></div><div>Having the split times displayed real time with =
TrackAddict&nbsp;helped me at the Glen realize I could hold turn 1 in 4th g=
ear, and only lose a tenth or two; also helped not having a shift later; to=
p speed was the same into the bus stop and at the top of the esses. &nbsp;&=
nbsp; &nbsp;I was likely overslowing&nbsp;downshifting to third, but since =
I couldn=E2=80=99t shift, &nbsp;I found out how to carry speed to hold 4th=
=E2=80=A6. LOL. &nbsp; (Was the nascar configuration). &nbsp;I used to shun=
 data, as =E2=80=9Ctoo much info=E2=80=9D but now I see the wisdom, and it =
helped me real time with the proper tools.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope th=
at helps!</div><div>Dave Gott<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.y=
ahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br><p class=
=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-t=
op: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Friday, April 7, 2023, 7:33 AM, yellow04 via Fo=
t &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div =
id=3D"yiv0615038629"><div>
<p>Last year at the Jefferson 500 I had three great sessions with a guy run=
ning a Porch 914 who had one of these. We had a fun debrief after each sess=
ion, and after the feature race he pulls his Garmin Catalyst out of his car=
 and showed me what it captured (other than lots of video of my bootlid!) a=
nd a lot of the things they covered in the Hagerty article. It looked extre=
mely helpful, but the one thing I don't remember him mentioning was the liv=
e coaching feature. I can only wonder why...&nbsp;</p>
<p>I really liked what I saw, but the research revealed two showstoppers, t=
he unit can not get wet and the camera has a very specific spot it needs to=
 be mounted. Naturally, that spot is where the rear view mirror on the wind=
screen goes, so strike two. In my case, game over.&nbsp;</p>
<p>So my data acquisition program remains a knock-off Go-Pro camera that I =
neglect to turn on at least half the time!</p>
<p>Henry&nbsp;</p>
<p id=3D"yiv0615038629v1reply-intro">On 2023-04-06 09:23, Scott Janzen via =
Fot wrote:</p>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px =
solid;margin:0;">
<div id=3D"yiv0615038629v1replybody1">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;">interesting, though I wonder how I wou=
ld hear the coaching - ear buds under my helmet, over the noise of an unmuf=
fled exhaust?
<div>Be cool to try it out as I'm sure I could use coaching!&nbsp;<br clear=
=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div>On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:43 AM, David Cutter wrote:</div>
<div id=3D"yiv0615038629yqtfd99859" class=3D"yiv0615038629yqt2532624153"><b=
r clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv0615038629v1v1Apple-interchange-newline">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I borrowed one for a test and tune a while back.&nbsp; Whi=
le it does all the expected data collection, the really interesting functio=
n is the AI-based driver coaching that kicks in after 2-3 laps.&nbsp; It se=
emed to work as my sector times improved.&nbsp; Is it worth $799?...well he=
re is what Sam Smith has to say:
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blan=
k" href=3D"https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst=
/">https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst/</a></d=
iv>
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at 7:54=E2=80=AFPM Mike Harmuth via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener nor=
eferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</=
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;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv0615038629v1v1gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi folks. A friend who races an MG, just asked me what I k=
now about the Garmin Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track=
 Addict) to collect data and find it helpful&nbsp;but have no real world ex=
perience with anything else.
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The Garmin seems expensive, more like something you'd find in a dentis=
t's track day Porsche but his wife wants to know if he'd like it for his bi=
rthday.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Anyone use this or a similar&nbsp;all-in-one device that I could recom=
mend to him ?&nbsp;</div>
</div>
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