Subject: Re: [Fot] Hoosier HOTDR

From: Chuck Gee via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 10:53:44 -0400

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I=E2=80=99d like to know this too.  Seems there are less 60 series 15=E2=80=9D=
 options compared to 13=E2=80=9D.

Chuck

> On Oct 1, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:=

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From: Robert Lang via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 21:34:20 +0000 (UTC)

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 Hi,If you're talking about the 24 x 7.0 X 15 TDR, it's a 50 series tire. F=
or some groups this puts you under the 60 profile, it that matters for your=
 run group.
I've been running this tire for quite a while, perhaps 5 years now. They we=
re the replacement for the 225/50-15 TDS which was also a bias-ply tire.
I like them a lot. You can run at pretty high slip angles and still have gr=
ip. The compound is fairly soft, don't expect to get more than 4 typical ra=
ce weekends from a set. Also, you may need to play with your tire pressures=
, I recently discovered that I've been running my cold temps a little too l=
ow based on how the tires wear.=20

Regards,Bob Lang

    On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 11:03:39 AM EDT, Chuck Gee via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 I=E2=80=99d like to know this too.=C2=A0 Seems there are less 60 series 15=
=E2=80=9D options compared to 13=E2=80=9D.

Chuck

> On Oct 1, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
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> =EF=BB=BFAre any of the TR guys using these?=C2=A0 What size on the TR3/4=
 and how do they compare to the Toyo R888?
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">If you're talking about the 24 x 7.0 X 15 TDR, it's a 5=
0 series tire. For some groups this puts you under the 60 profile, it that =
matters for your run group.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I've been running this tire f=
or quite a while, perhaps 5 years now. They were the replacement for the 22=
5/50-15 TDS which was also a bias-ply tire.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I like them a=
 lot. You can run at pretty high slip angles and still have grip. The compo=
und is fairly soft, don't expect to get more than 4 typical race weekends f=
rom a set. Also, you may need to play with your tire pressures, I recently =
discovered that I've been running my cold temps a little too low based on h=
ow the tires wear. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">Bob Lang<br></div><div><br></div>
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99d like to know this too.&nb=
sp; Seems there are less 60 series 15=E2=80=9D options compared to 13=E2=80=
=9D.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Chuck<br clear=3D"none"><div clas=
s=3D"ydp70327857yqt1225155178" id=3D"ydp70327857yqtfd34181"><br clear=3D"no=
ne">&gt; On Oct 1, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Greg Blake via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rec=
t" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&=
gt; =EF=BB=BFAre any of the TR guys using these?&nbsp; What size on the TR3=
/4 and how do they compare to the Toyo R888?<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt; Thanks Greg <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none"></d=
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From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 11:42:53 +0000 (UTC)

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Dave (62 TR4 #80) and I (65 TR4A #114) with run these in the 23x7.5 x 15 si=
ze on 7 inch rims. =C2=A0They work very well. =C2=A0They have a very wide m=
argin of slip masking them very predictable and controllable. =C2=A0No sudd=
en breakaway. =C2=A0Look at Dave's times at Pitt Race Kastner Cup if you wa=
nt to know how well they stick. As with most race rubber, they are at their=
 best when new, but with proper break in (24 hours rest after the first hea=
t cycle is the minimum you should do - one week is better) you should get 3=
0-50 heat cycles out of them before they really give up. =C2=A0The decline =
is performance is gradual up to about 30 cycles.
We've never run the Toyo R888 so=C2=A0can't compare.
Regards,
Phil Gott

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From: Chuck Gee via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: Greg Blake <[email-masked]>
Cc: Fot <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Oct 2, 2022 11:10 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Hoosier HOTDR

Chuck

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<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10=
pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Dave (62 TR4 #80) and I (65 TR4A #114) w=
ith run these in the 23x7.5 x 15 size on 7 inch rims. &nbsp;They work very =
well. &nbsp;They have a very wide margin of slip masking them very predicta=
ble and controllable. &nbsp;No sudden breakaway. &nbsp;Look at Dave's times=
 at Pitt Race Kastner Cup if you want to know how well they stick. As with =
most race rubber, they are at their best when new, but with proper break in=
 (24 hours rest after the first heat cycle is the minimum you should do - o=
ne week is better) you should get 30-50 heat cycles out of them before they=
 really give up. &nbsp;The decline is performance is gradual up to about 30=
 cycles.</div><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-st=
yle=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: bla=
ck;">We've never run the Toyo R888 so&nbsp;can't compare.</div><div style=
=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;=
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-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Regards,</div><div =
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,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family:=
 arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Phil Gott<br><=
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[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sent: Sun, Oct 2, 2022 11:10 am<br>Subject: Re: [Fo=
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s too.&nbsp; Seems there are less 60 series 15=E2=80=9D options compared to=
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