Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT Hallett racing video

From: Jason Ostrowski via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:52:36 -0500

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Great start by Frymark!
And too bad the cheater Webber=E2=80=99s let him down.
More proof that the racing Gods look down on non Triumph parts.
Good drive Bob.
Looked like fun.

Jason Ostrowski=20
Friendly Ghost Racing=20
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars

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> On Oct 12, 2022, at 1:21 AM, Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
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> =EF=BB=BFIt was great fun having all the Triumphs together. Love Hallet, s=
uch a great track for our cars. Can=E2=80=99t wait to do it again.=20
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Oct 11, 2022, at 20:30, Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
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>> CVAR allowed the D Production Triumphs to join in with the Group 2 Produc=
tion cars for the race weekend at Hallett.  DP normally runs in Group 7 with=
 C Prod and B Sedan, but Groups 1 and 7 were combined for Hallett and the Gr=
oup 2 racers agreed to let us run with them. We fit in well. Here is a youtu=
be link to the Sunday morning race.
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>> https://youtu.be/wumRyOnyVOU
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Great start by Frymark!<div>And too bad the=
 cheater Webber=E2=80=99s let him down.</div><div>More proof that the racing=
 Gods look down on non Triumph parts.</div><div>Good drive Bob.</div><div>Lo=
oked like fun.</div><div><br></div><div>Jason Ostrowski&nbsp;</div><div>Frie=
ndly Ghost Racing&nbsp;</div><div>1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars</div><div><br><=
br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite">On Oct 12, 2022, at 1:21 AM, Greg Blake via Fot &lt;fot@auto=
x.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/ht=
ml; charset=3Dutf-8">It was great fun having all the Triumphs together. Love=
 Hallet, such a great track for our cars. Can=E2=80=99t wait to do it again.=
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From: Ken Knight via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 07:34:14 -0700

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Cheater Weber=E2=80=99s?  Where did the Almighty write on stone that no one=
 can race in vintage with a Weber carburetor?  Walk through any pit at a vi=
ntage race event and see a significant % of cars, of all makes, with these =
installed.  In our club you bump up a category with Weber=E2=80=99s.  In 20=
22 it would be impossible to field a car with ALL Triumph parts inside the =
engine or transmission.  One of the FOT members just let everyone know abou=
t new and updated critical parts for the transmission.  I sure don=E2=80=99=
t consider those to be cheater parts.  I recall Kas telling stories about t=
otal engine rebuilds after every bloody race with stock TR parts.  You know=
, back in the day when he had a key to stock room of every part that Triump=
h supplied and it was his full time job to field a car.  Modern parts and o=
il keep our vintage cars on the track for seasons between rebuilds.  If it =
is not against the rules in the club you race in, it is not cheating.  Ken

From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski via Fot=

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 2:53 PM
To: Greg Blake <[email-masked]>
Cc: Fot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT Hallett racing video

Great start by Frymark!

Good drive Bob.

Looked like fun.

Jason Ostrowski 

Friendly Ghost Racing 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2022, at 1:21 AM, Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked] <mailto=
:[email-masked]> > wrote:

=EF=BB=BFIt was great fun having all the Triumphs together. Love Hallet, su=
ch a great track for our cars. Can=E2=80=99t wait to do it again. 

Sent from my iPhone

[email-masked]> > wrote:

=EF=BB=BF

CVAR allowed the D Production Triumphs to join in with the Group 2 Producti=
on cars for the race weekend at Hallett. DP normally runs in Group 7 with C=
 Prod and B Sedan, but Groups 1 and 7 were combined for Hallett and the Gro=
up 2 racers agreed to let us run with them. We fit in well. Here is a youtu=
be link to the Sunday morning race.

Bob Kramer

cloud.com

ntage.com

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nk=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal>Cheater Weber=E2=80=99s?=C2=A0 Where did the Almighty write =
on stone that no one can race in vintage with a Weber carburetor? =C2=A0Wal=
k through any pit at a vintage race event and see a significant % of cars, =
of all makes, with these installed.=C2=A0 In our club you bump up a categor=
y with Weber=E2=80=99s.=C2=A0 In 2022 it would be impossible to field a car=
 with ALL Triumph parts inside the engine or transmission.=C2=A0 One of the=
 FOT members just let everyone know about new and updated critical parts fo=
r the transmission. =C2=A0I sure don=E2=80=99t consider those to be cheater=
 parts.=C2=A0 I recall Kas telling stories about total engine rebuilds afte=
r every bloody race with stock TR parts.=C2=A0 You know, back in the day wh=
en he had a key to stock room of every part that Triumph supplied and it wa=
s his full time job to field a car.=C2=A0 Modern parts and oil keep our vin=
tage cars on the track for seasons between rebuilds. =C2=A0If it is not aga=
inst the rules in the club you race in, it is not cheating. =C2=A0Ken<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div style=3D'borde=
r:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Beha=
lf Of </b>Jason Ostrowski via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 20=
22 2:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> Greg Blake &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc=
:</b> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] FOT Halle=
tt racing video<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Great start by Frymark!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal>And too bad the cheater Webber=E2=80=99s let him down.<o=
:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>More proof that the racing God=
s look down on non Triumph parts.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>Good drive Bob.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Looked l=
ike fun.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jason Ostrowski&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal>1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars<o:p></o:p></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0=
pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'=
>On Oct 12, 2022, at 1:21 AM, Greg Blake via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@=
autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>=EF=BB=BFIt was great fun =
having all the Triumphs together. Love Hallet, such a great track for our c=
ars. Can=E2=80=99t wait to do it again.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bot=
tom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Oct 11, 2=
022, at 20:30, Bob Kramer via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockq=
uote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al>=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div id=3Dgmail-meta><div id=3Dgm=
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=3Dgmail-description><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:12.0p=
t;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.25in;margin-left:48.0pt'><span class=3Dgm=
ail-content><span style=3D'font-family:Roboto;color:black'>CVAR allowed the=
 D Production Triumphs to join in with the Group 2 Production cars for the =
race weekend at Hallett. DP normally runs in Group 7 with C Prod and B Seda=
n, but Groups 1 and 7 were combined for Hallett and the Group 2 racers agre=
ed to let us run with them. We fit in well. Here is a youtube link to the S=
unday morning race.</span></span><span class=3Dgmail-style-scope><span styl=
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hear, hear.  It=E2=80=99s only cheating when someone else does it.

On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Ken Knight via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

Cheater Weber=E2=80=99s?  Where did the Almighty write on stone that no =
one can race in vintage with a Weber carburetor?  Walk through any pit =
at a vintage race event and see a significant % of cars, of all makes, =
with these installed.  In our club you bump up a category with =
Weber=E2=80=99s.  In 2022 it would be impossible to field a car with ALL =
Triumph parts inside the engine or transmission.  One of the FOT members =
just let everyone know about new and updated critical parts for the =
transmission.  I sure don=E2=80=99t consider those to be cheater parts.  =
I recall Kas telling stories about total engine rebuilds after every =
bloody race with stock TR parts.  You know, back in the day when he had =
a key to stock room of every part that Triumph supplied and it was his =
full time job to field a car.  Modern parts and oil keep our vintage =
cars on the track for seasons between rebuilds.  If it is not against =
the rules in the club you race in, it is not cheating.  Ken
=20
From: Fot <[email-masked] =
Fot
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT Hallett racing video
=20
Great start by Frymark!
And too bad the cheater Webber=E2=80=99s let him down.
More proof that the racing Gods look down on non Triumph parts.
Good drive Bob.
Looked like fun.
=20
Jason Ostrowski=20
Friendly Ghost Racing=20
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=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2022, at 1:21 AM, Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked] =
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> =EF=BB=BFIt was great fun having all the Triumphs together. Love =
Hallet, such a great track for our cars. Can=E2=80=99t wait to do it =
again.=20
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 11, 2022, at 20:30, Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked] =
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> CVAR allowed the D Production Triumphs to join in with the Group 2 =
Production cars for the race weekend at Hallett. DP normally runs in =
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Hallett and the Group 2 racers agreed to let us run with them. We fit in =
well. Here is a youtube link to the Sunday morning race.
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> https://youtu.be/wumRyOnyVOU <https://youtu.be/wumRyOnyVOU>
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">hear,=
 hear. &nbsp;It=E2=80=99s only cheating when someone else does it.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><div class=3D"">On Oct =
13, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Ken Knight via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
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none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Cheater Weber=E2=80=99s?&nbsp; Where did the =
Almighty write on stone that no one can race in vintage with a Weber =
carburetor? &nbsp;Walk through any pit at a vintage race event and see a =
significant % of cars, of all makes, with these installed.&nbsp; In our =
club you bump up a category with Weber=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; In 2022 it would =
be impossible to field a car with ALL Triumph parts inside the engine or =
transmission.&nbsp; One of the FOT members just let everyone know about =
new and updated critical parts for the transmission. &nbsp;I sure =
don=E2=80=99t consider those to be cheater parts.&nbsp; I recall Kas =
telling stories about total engine rebuilds after every bloody race with =
stock TR parts.&nbsp; You know, back in the day when he had a key to =
stock room of every part that Triumph supplied and it was his full time =
job to field a car.&nbsp; Modern parts and oil keep our vintage cars on =
the track for seasons between rebuilds. &nbsp;If it is not against the =
rules in the club you race in, it is not cheating. &nbsp;Ken<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
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class=3D"">From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Jason Ostrowski =
via Fot<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, October 12, 2022 =
2:53 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Greg Blake &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] FOT Hallett =
racing video<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Great start by =
Frymark!<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">And =
too bad the cheater Webber=E2=80=99s let him down.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">More =
proof that the racing Gods look down on non Triumph parts.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Good =
drive Bob.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Looked like fun.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Jason =
Ostrowski&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">1969 =
Triumph GT6+ racecars<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
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It was great fun having all the Triumphs together. Love Hallet, such a =
great track for our cars. Can=E2=80=99t wait to do it again.&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></p><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
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From: Jason Ostrowski via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:39:18 -0500

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Ken,
I agree with every word you say.
And for the record I am a forever loyal supporter and fan of all Triumph rac=
ers and Triumph cars - Have been for over 40 years.
I support and cheer for all of them regardless of what parts they use to rac=
e well.
The 6 cylinder cars bring a slightly different set of arguments to the table=
.
Compared to =E2=80=9Cstock=E2=80=9D the Webber option is great because it in=
creases the potential fuel and air delivery from 2 small units to 6 large un=
its.
A substantial modification always involving a custom intake manifold with ad=
ded throats.
A production category modification that was simply not allowed for GT6 racec=
ars in Any of the historic regulations that most vintage organizations claim=
 to adhere to.=20
Slowly, as the 3rd, 4th, and 5th decades of GT6 racing entered into a more m=
odern era, some organizations started allowing cars with the =E2=80=9Ccheate=
r carbs=E2=80=9D for the GT6 platform.=20
I don=E2=80=99t mind if people run them in any organization.=20
I may soon be forced to run them myself.
And in my lifelong GT6 racing family they will always factually be referred t=
o as =E2=80=9CCheater carbs=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94As we=E2=80=99ve been calling t=
hem that for decades.

Jason Ostrowski=20
Friendly Ghost Racing=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:34 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Cheater Weber=E2=80=99s?  Where did the Almighty write on stone that no on=
e can race in vintage with a Weber carburetor?  Walk through any pit at a vi=
ntage race event and see a significant % of cars, of all makes, with these i=
nstalled.  In our club you bump up a category with Weber=E2=80=99s.  In 2022=
 it would be impossible to field a car with ALL Triumph parts inside the eng=
ine or transmission.  One of the FOT members just let everyone know about ne=
w and updated critical parts for the transmission.  I sure don=E2=80=99t con=
sider those to be cheater parts.  I recall Kas telling stories about total e=
ngine rebuilds after every bloody race with stock TR parts.  You know, back i=
n the day when he had a key to stock room of every part that Triumph supplie=
d and it was his full time job to field a car.  Modern parts and oil keep ou=
r vintage cars on the track for seasons between rebuilds.  If it is not agai=
nst the rules in the club you race in, it is not cheating.  Ken
> =20
> From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski via Fo=
t
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>=20
> On Oct 11, 2022, at 20:30, Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> CVAR allowed the D Production Triumphs to join in with the Group 2 Product=
ion cars for the race weekend at Hallett. DP normally runs in Group 7 with C=
 Prod and B Sedan, but Groups 1 and 7 were combined for Hallett and the Grou=
p 2 racers agreed to let us run with them. We fit in well. Here is a youtube=
 link to the Sunday morning race.
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3@=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Ken,<div>I agree with every word you say.</=
div><div>And for the record I am a forever loyal supporter and fan of all Tr=
iumph racers and Triumph cars - Have been for over 40 years.</div><div>I sup=
port and cheer for all of them regardless of what parts they use to race wel=
l.<br>The 6 cylinder cars bring a slightly different set of arguments to the=
 table.</div><div>Compared to =E2=80=9Cstock=E2=80=9D the Webber option is g=
reat because it increases the potential fuel and air delivery from 2 small u=
nits to 6 large units.</div><div>A substantial modification always involving=
 a custom intake manifold with added throats.</div><div>A production categor=
y modification that was simply not allowed for GT6 racecars in Any of the hi=
storic regulations that most vintage organizations claim to adhere to.&nbsp;=
</div><div>Slowly, as the 3rd, 4th, and 5th decades of GT6 racing entered in=
to a more modern era, some organizations started allowing cars with the =E2=80=
=9Ccheater carbs=E2=80=9D for the GT6 platform.&nbsp;</div><div>I don=E2=80=99=
t mind if people run them in any organization.&nbsp;</div><div>I may soon be=
 forced to run them myself.</div><div>And in my lifelong GT6 racing family t=
hey will always factually be referred to as =E2=80=9CCheater carbs=E2=80=9D =E2=
=80=94As we=E2=80=99ve been calling them that for decades.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Jason Ostrowski&nbsp;</div><div>Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;</div><di=
v>1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPh=
one</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 13, 2022, at 9=
:34 AM, [email-masked] wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=
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oNormal">Cheater Weber=E2=80=99s?&nbsp; Where did the Almighty write on ston=
e that no one can race in vintage with a Weber carburetor? &nbsp;Walk throug=
h any pit at a vintage race event and see a significant % of cars, of all ma=
kes, with these installed.&nbsp; In our club you bump up a category with Web=
er=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; In 2022 it would be impossible to field a car with ALL T=
riumph parts inside the engine or transmission.&nbsp; One of the FOT members=
 just let everyone know about new and updated critical parts for the transmi=
ssion. &nbsp;I sure don=E2=80=99t consider those to be cheater parts.&nbsp; I=
 recall Kas telling stories about total engine rebuilds after every bloody r=
ace with stock TR parts.&nbsp; You know, back in the day when he had a key t=
o stock room of every part that Triumph supplied and it was his full time jo=
b to field a car.&nbsp; Modern parts and oil keep our vintage cars on the tr=
ack for seasons between rebuilds. &nbsp;If it is not against the rules in th=
e club you race in, it is not cheating. &nbsp;Ken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:so=
lid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:=
</b> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Ostrow=
ski via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2022 2:53 PM<br><b>To:</b=
> Greg Blake &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Fot &lt;fot@autox.=
team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] FOT Hallett racing video<o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Great start by Frymark!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">An=
d too bad the cheater Webber=E2=80=99s let him down.<o:p></o:p></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">More proof that the racing Gods look down on non Tr=
iumph parts.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Good drive Bob.=
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Looked like fun.<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">Jason Ostrowski&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bott=
om:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Oct 12, 2=
022, at 1:21 AM, Greg Blake via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockq=
uote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">=EF=BB=BFIt was great fun having all the T=
riumphs together. Love Hallet, such a great track for our cars. Can=E2=80=99=
t wait to do it again.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent f=
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 Kramer via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
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d at Hallett. DP normally runs in Group 7 with C Prod and B Sedan, but Group=
s 1 and 7 were combined for Hallett and the Group 2 racers agreed to let us r=
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:12:04 +0000 (UTC)

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 The Webers are considered "cheater" largely because most vintage groups fo=
llow the old SCCA GCR to some degree, & rules were very specific about carb=
s, & many other things that are pretty much ignored today...They were never=
 legal for Production classes.Having strict rules is a PITA sometimes but i=
t levels the playing-field, without it becomes more of how much $$ do you w=
ant to throw at the car to gain that advantage & win?JMHO of course...

Glen Efinger
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Knight via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: 'Jason Ostrowski' <[email-masked]>; 'Greg Blake' <gblake58tr3@i=
cloud.com>
Cc: 'Fot' <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Oct 13, 2022 10:34 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT Hallett racing video

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ction1 {}#yiv0508882779 Cheater Weber=E2=80=99s?=C2=A0 Where did the Almigh=
ty write on stone that no one can race in vintage with a Weber carburetor? =
=C2=A0Walk through any pit at a vintage race event and see a significant % =
of cars, of all makes, with these installed.=C2=A0 In our club you bump up =
a category with Weber=E2=80=99s.=C2=A0 In 2022 it would be impossible to fi=
eld a car with ALL Triumph parts inside the engine or transmission.=C2=A0 O=
ne of the FOT members just let everyone know about new and updated critical=
 parts for the transmission. =C2=A0I sure don=E2=80=99t consider those to b=
e cheater parts.=C2=A0 I recall Kas telling stories about total engine rebu=
ilds after every bloody race with stock TR parts.=C2=A0 You know, back in t=
he day when he had a key to stock room of every part that Triumph supplied =
and it was his full time job to field a car.=C2=A0 Modern parts and oil kee=
p our vintage cars on the track for seasons between rebuilds. =C2=A0If it i=
s not against the rules in the club you race in, it is not cheating. =C2=A0=
Ken =C2=A0From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Jason Ostrows=
ki via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 2:53 PM
To: Greg Blake <[email-masked]>
Cc: Fot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT Hallett racing video =C2=A0Great start by Frymark!An=
d too bad the cheater Webber=E2=80=99s let him down.More proof that the rac=
ing Gods look down on non Triumph parts.Good drive Bob.Looked like fun. =C2=
=A0Jason Ostrowski=C2=A0Friendly Ghost Racing=C2=A01969 Triumph GT6+ raceca=
rs =C2=A0Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2022, at 1:21 AM, Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFIt was great fun having all the Triumphs together. Love Hallet, su=
ch a great track for our cars. Can=E2=80=99t wait to do it again.=C2=A0Sent=
 from my iPhone

=EF=BB=BFCVAR allowed the D Production Triumphs to join in with the Group 2=
 Production cars for the race weekend at Hallett. DP normally runs in Group=
 7 with C Prod and B Sedan, but Groups 1 and 7 were combined for Hallett an=
d the Group 2 racers agreed to let us run with them. We fit in well. Here i=
s a youtube link to the Sunday morning race.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://you=
tu.be/wumRyOnyVOU
Bob Kramer_______________________________________________
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"2">The Webers are considered "cheater" largely because =
most vintage groups follow the old SCCA GCR to some degree, &amp; rules wer=
e very specific about carbs, &amp; many other things that are pretty much i=
gnored today...</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">They were never legal for Production classes.</font><=
/div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Having strict rules is a PITA sometimes but it levels=
 the playing-field, without it becomes more of how much $$ do you want to t=
hrow at the car to gain that advantage &amp; win?</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">JMHO of course...<br>
</font></div>

<div><br>
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<div><font size=3D"2">Glen Efinger</font><br>
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From: Ken Knight via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: 'Jason Ostrowski' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 'Greg Blake' &lt;gbla=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: 'Fot' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Oct 13, 2022 10:34 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT Hallett racing video<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal">Cheater Weber=E2=80=99s?&nbsp; Where =
did the Almighty write on stone that no one can race in vintage with a Webe=
r carburetor? &nbsp;Walk through any pit at a vintage race event and see a =
significant % of cars, of all makes, with these installed.&nbsp; In our clu=
b you bump up a category with Weber=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; In 2022 it would be im=
possible to field a car with ALL Triumph parts inside the engine or transmi=
ssion.&nbsp; One of the FOT members just let everyone know about new and up=
dated critical parts for the transmission. &nbsp;I sure don=E2=80=99t consi=
der those to be cheater parts.&nbsp; I recall Kas telling stories about tot=
al engine rebuilds after every bloody race with stock TR parts.&nbsp; You k=
now, back in the day when he had a key to stock room of every part that Tri=
umph supplied and it was his full time job to field a car.&nbsp; Modern par=
ts and oil keep our vintage cars on the track for seasons between rebuilds.=
 &nbsp;If it is not against the rules in the club you race in, it is not ch=
eating. &nbsp;Ken</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;fot-bounces@auto=
x.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Ostrowski via Fot<br clear=3D"none=
"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2022 2:53 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:=
</b> Greg Blake &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b>=
 Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot]=
 FOT Hallett racing video</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal">Great start by Frymark!</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal">And too bad the cheater Webber=E2=80=
=99s let him down.</div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal">More proof that the racing Gods look =
down on non Triumph parts.</div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal">Good drive Bob.</div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal">Looked like fun.</div>
</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal">Jason Ostrowski&nbsp;</div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal">On Oc=
t 12, 2022, at 1:21 AM, Greg Blake via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv0508882779MsoNormal">=EF=
=BB=BFIt was great fun having all the Triumphs together. Love Hallet, such =
a great track for our cars. Can=E2=80=99t wait to do it again.&nbsp;</div>

<div>
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</div>

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ailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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at Hallett. DP normally runs in Group 7 with C Prod and B Sedan, but Groups=
 1 and 7 were combined for Hallett and the Group 2 racers agreed to let us =
run with them. We fit in well. Here is a youtube link to the Sunday morning=
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