Subject: Re: [Fot] 2023 Kastner Cup Question

From: Paul Ricco via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 14:59:16 -0500

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Mark,

Thanks for the email.=20

My question and message to FOT was to clarify the date and I was only pointi=
ng out to people from out of town, that they should book their rooms early.

We have been racing there for over 35 years and we know the lay of the land t=
here very well. We ran the July event when it when it was still the Chicago H=
istoric Races, which were organized by a privateer from Chicago who owned th=
e Marchetti Inn.   It was a truly great event. Road America later took over t=
he event. We have watched the track, the event and the town go through lots o=
f changes and evolution.=20

Just to help anyone coming from out of town, there are limited average cost r=
ooms near the track on event weekends.  The resorts in town are very nice an=
d fun to stay at, but they come at a higher cost.=20

The resorts in town are:

The Osthoff
The Shore Club
Siebkens

Attendees will can find more hotels in Plymouth and Sheboygan.=20

For those who did not know.=20

I am sure that you guys will put on a great event for those who attend.=20

Brian was involved with a K-cup at BHF about 6 years ago. I remember that he=
 and Jason did a great job.  =20

Again, thanks for the email.=20

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 20, 2022, at 2:09 PM, Mark Alexander <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Hi Paul, hope all is well with you.
>=20
> A lot of factors and consideration went into the decision and to your poin=
t, there are the three vintage events at RA to work with.  The WeatherTech I=
nternational Challenge -Mid-July was chosen and we are working closely with R=
A to best accommodate the Kastner Cup and its participants in all aspects of=
 a racing event. Brian Garcia and I will be providing additional  details in=
 the coming week (and weeks) for those participants that prefer off-track lo=
dging.
>=20
> Mark Alexander
> 952.412.6683
>=20
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:22 AM Paul Ricco via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>> Henry,
>>=20
>> Congratulations to you and Tony, as well as the rest of the award recipie=
nts.
>>=20
>> Since there are 3 fairly large vintage races at Road America each summer,=
 could you please tell us which one that the Kastner Cup will be part of?  O=
ne is in May (SVRA), one is July (Run by R.A.) and the Fall Vintage Festival=
 is in September (VSCDA).  It could help people with planning to know which o=
ne the Kastner Cup will be at.
>>=20
>> Hotel space gets tight quickly for the July and September events.  Theref=
ore, people will want to reserve rooms as early as possible if it will be he=
ld in conjunction with one of those events.
>>=20
>> Thanks, again congratulations.
>>=20
>> Paul Ricco
>>=20
>> > On Jul 19, 2022, at 9:36 AM, yellow04 via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>> >=20
>> > Again, thanks to everybody who came out to the Kastner Cup this past we=
ekend, both racers and friends. It was fantastic to spend time with old frie=
nds and make new ones. While my weekend got much more exciting at the Kastne=
r Cup presentation, it still would have been a really great race weekend for=
 me had the cards fallen in a different direction with the pick for the K-Cu=
p winner.
>> >=20
>> > As I sat on the Grid for the K-Cup race, I am looking at Chris Marks (T=
R8) on pole, Sam Halkius (TR6) on the outside pole, then Joe Carr (Huffaker T=
R8) and my TR250 on the second row. Behind me is the Curt Johnston (Huffaker=
 TR7) and Bob "why are they braking 200 feet early?" Lang (TR6). Plus, I rea=
lize there are several really fast GT6's back there, although circumstances k=
ept the Dolan cars from posting times that would put them where they belonge=
d on the grid. I'm feeling intimidated, I realize that set of Speedsters und=
er my car are going to be working really, really hard keep any kind of pace w=
ith this crew. The rest of this is by memory, as my camera didn't work...
>> >=20
>> > The race is off to a great start, and somehow I find myself dogging the=
 Huffaker TR8. It rained earlier in the day, and the track would best be des=
cribed as "drying, but not quite dry". I realize Joe is driving a borrowed, i=
ncredibly important, historic car, and is feeling out the corners, but for m=
e the grip was there. On the second lap, Joe goes a little hot into one of t=
he uphill sweepers, and my six cylinder powers by him on the inside. Joe tak=
es the position back exhibiting superior straight line speed, but I got him a=
gain. If memory serves, we traded places a couple times, I am scored in fron=
t of the TR8 for laps 3, 4 and 5! As the race wears on, Joe settles in and s=
hows us what he and that beautiful TR8 were capable of, and finishes the rac=
e some 12 seconds in front of me. After the race Joe explains to me what I w=
as seeing in his cockpit, his HANS tether was not quite right and he was try=
ing to get it sorted while on track!
>> >=20
>> > I am thrilled to finish 4th, the first car not running on grooved slick=
s. Even better, I learn Mark Wheatley, my long-time paddock partner finished=
 behind me in 5th in his TR4! Unfortunately for Bob Lang, his car didn't go t=
he distance, he pulled in after noticing a temperature spike.
>> >=20
>> > In the reunion race Sunday morning, Sam's TR6 was a no-show, and Chris w=
as under strict orders to keep the car in one piece as car owner Peter has a=
 pending sale in place. The two TR8's are front row, with me and Curt Johnst=
on right behind them. The two TR8's take off, and my rear view mirrors are q=
uickly filled with Bob Lang and Brian Dolan's GT6. I am watching the two of t=
hem battle it out, when Bob gets by me in Turn 3. It does not take long befo=
re Brian gets by me as well and catches Bob. Now I am watching the two of th=
em race each other hard, and I am enjoying the action from the best seat in t=
he house. When the two of them are trying to out brake each other in turn 3 a=
nd I see each of them making tire smoke, I realize things are really heating=
 up there! Then they are side by side going down into turn 5. Knowing there i=
s no way two cars are going to through turn 5 faster than one car can, I lay=
 back a little and it unfolds perfectly. I get the run into the corner, am o=
n the ga
>>  s hard tracking out on the preferred line, and can squeeze my way right u=
p the middle between the two cars! Thanks for making room guys, that was an a=
wesome pass! Bob and Brian continued racing each other so the rest of my rid=
e in the reunion race was not heavily contested, and I was pleased to finish=
 third behind the two TR8's. As I understand it, Chris had to slow down to l=
et his brakes recover, Joe took the overall lead and by the time Chris had c=
onfidence in his brakes again, he was out of time to mount a comeback. He to=
ld me he needed one more lap to catch Joe!
>> >=20
>> > A few highlights for me over the course of the weekend include:
>> >=20
>> > The whole scene with Christian Marks flying in from Germany to drive Ca=
nadian Pete Bulkowski's TR8. These guys know how to have fun while preparing=
 a fast race car. Then there was Chris' incredible drive on Saturday morning=
's Ground Pounders group session. It was a very wet track and he literally l=
apped the entire field and the rooster tail shooting up behind the TR8 was s=
o cool! Somebody posted some video of that somewhere, maybe somebody can pro=
vide a link?
>> >=20
>> > Meeting Lyman and Dave running the Baja TR3. Taking one look at the car=
 you immediately realized this thing is something special. While it was obvi=
ous the car was not going to be competitive for race wins on a road course, i=
t shows how we still have people who are committed to the Triumph marque, wh=
o are willing to spend the time and effort to save significant Triumph histo=
ry, and are willing to share that with us in venues like the Kastner Cup. We=
ll done Lyman, thanks for your efforts. And well driven Dave, you had a toug=
h task in front of you managing the car on a road course. I can't wait to he=
ar about the car's next chapter!
>> >=20
>> > I helped out on the K-Cup committee, so seeing how the event unfolded a=
fter all the planning was kind of cool for me. Curt Johnston did a stellar j=
ob, and Jim Dolan steered his crew with the PVGP to really make this a speci=
al event for us. Job well done guys!
>> >=20
>> > Seeing the family teams in action is always cool for me, we had Sean an=
d Brendan Alexander, Marty and Jason Sukey, Phil and Dave Gott, Jessie and P=
at Darrow, and of course the Dolan family. Sorry if I missed anybody!
>> >=20
>> > Hats off to Joe Alexander and his family, while it may look like all th=
is just happens, there is a lot of work behind the scenes. Thanks guys.
>> >=20
>> > So next year the race for the Kastner Cup will be at Road America, I ca=
n't wait! With a full grid of the Mid-west Triumph folk gunning for the Cup,=
 I am confident that it will be a spectacular show! I think the smart money w=
ill be on Friendly Ghost Racing, no pressure Jason! :-)
>> >=20
>> > Henry Frye
>> > #29 TR250
>> > _______________________________________________
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Mark,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the ema=
il.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>My question and message to FOT was to cla=
rify the date and I was only pointing out to people from out of town, that t=
hey should book their rooms early.</div><div><br></div><div>We have been rac=
ing there for over 35 years and we know the lay of the land there very well.=
 We ran the July event when it when it was still the Chicago Historic Races,=
 which were organized by a privateer from Chicago who owned the Marchetti In=
n. &nbsp; It was a truly great event. Road America later took over the event=
. We have watched the track, the event and the town go through lots of chang=
es and evolution.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Just to help anyone coming f=
rom out of town, there are limited average cost rooms near the track on even=
t weekends. &nbsp;The resorts in town are very nice and fun to stay at, but t=
hey come at a higher cost.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The resorts in tow=
n are:</div><div><br></div><div>The Osthoff</div><div>The Shore Club</div><d=
iv>Siebkens</div><div><br></div><div>Attendees will can find more hotels in P=
lymouth and Sheboygan.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>For those who did not k=
now.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I am sure that you guys will put on a gr=
eat event for those who attend.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Brian was inv=
olved with a K-cup at BHF about 6 years ago. I remember that he and Jason di=
d a great job. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Again, thanks for the e=
mail.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Paul Ricco<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent=
 from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 2=
0, 2022, at 2:09 PM, Mark Alexander &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wr=
ote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Paul, hope all is well with you.<=
div><br></div><div>A lot of factors and consideration went into the decision=
 and to your point, there are the three vintage events at RA to work with.&n=
bsp; The WeatherTech International Challenge -Mid-July was chosen and we are=
 working closely with RA to best accommodate the Kastner Cup and its partici=
pants in all aspects of a racing event. Brian Garcia and I will be providing=
 additional&nbsp; details in the coming week (and weeks) for those participa=
nts that prefer off-track lodging.</div><div><br></div><div>Mark Alexander</=
div><div>952.412.6683</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:22 AM Paul Ricco via Fo=
t &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Henry,<br>
<br>
Congratulations to you and Tony, as well as the rest of the award recipients=
.<br>
<br>
Since there are 3 fairly large vintage races at Road America each summer, co=
uld you please tell us which one that the Kastner Cup will be part of?&nbsp;=
 One is in May (SVRA), one is July (Run by R.A.) and the Fall Vintage Festiv=
al is in September (VSCDA).&nbsp; It could help people with planning to know=
 which one the Kastner Cup will be at.<br>
<br>
Hotel space gets tight quickly for the July and September events.&nbsp; Ther=
efore, people will want to reserve rooms as early as possible if it will be h=
eld in conjunction with one of those events.<br>
<br>
Thanks, again congratulations.<br>
<br>
Paul Ricco<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jul 19, 2022, at 9:36 AM, yellow04 via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Again, thanks to everybody who came out to the Kastner Cup this past we=
ekend, both racers and friends. It was fantastic to spend time with old frie=
nds and make new ones. While my weekend got much more exciting at the Kastne=
r Cup presentation, it still would have been a really great race weekend for=
 me had the cards fallen in a different direction with the pick for the K-Cu=
p winner.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; As I sat on the Grid for the K-Cup race, I am looking at Chris Marks (T=
R8) on pole, Sam Halkius (TR6) on the outside pole, then Joe Carr (Huffaker T=
R8) and my TR250 on the second row. Behind me is the Curt Johnston (Huffaker=
 TR7) and Bob "why are they braking 200 feet early?" Lang (TR6). Plus, I rea=
lize there are several really fast GT6's back there, although circumstances k=
ept the Dolan cars from posting times that would put them where they belonge=
d on the grid. I'm feeling intimidated, I realize that set of Speedsters und=
er my car are going to be working really, really hard keep any kind of pace w=
ith this crew. The rest of this is by memory, as my camera didn't work...<br=
&gt; <br>
&gt; The race is off to a great start, and somehow I find myself dogging the=
 Huffaker TR8. It rained earlier in the day, and the track would best be des=
cribed as "drying, but not quite dry". I realize Joe is driving a borrowed, i=
ncredibly important, historic car, and is feeling out the corners, but for m=
e the grip was there. On the second lap, Joe goes a little hot into one of t=
he uphill sweepers, and my six cylinder powers by him on the inside. Joe tak=
es the position back exhibiting superior straight line speed, but I got him a=
gain. If memory serves, we traded places a couple times, I am scored in fron=
t of the TR8 for laps 3, 4 and 5! As the race wears on, Joe settles in and s=
hows us what he and that beautiful TR8 were capable of, and finishes the rac=
e some 12 seconds in front of me. After the race Joe explains to me what I w=
as seeing in his cockpit, his HANS tether was not quite right and he was try=
ing to get it sorted while on track!<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I am thrilled to finish 4th, the first car not running on grooved slick=
s. Even better, I learn Mark Wheatley, my long-time paddock partner finished=
 behind me in 5th in his TR4! Unfortunately for Bob Lang, his car didn't go t=
he distance, he pulled in after noticing a temperature spike.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; In the reunion race Sunday morning, Sam's TR6 was a no-show, and Chris w=
as under strict orders to keep the car in one piece as car owner Peter has a=
 pending sale in place. The two TR8's are front row, with me and Curt Johnst=
on right behind them. The two TR8's take off, and my rear view mirrors are q=
uickly filled with Bob Lang and Brian Dolan's GT6. I am watching the two of t=
hem battle it out, when Bob gets by me in Turn 3. It does not take long befo=
re Brian gets by me as well and catches Bob. Now I am watching the two of th=
em race each other hard, and I am enjoying the action from the best seat in t=
he house. When the two of them are trying to out brake each other in turn 3 a=
nd I see each of them making tire smoke, I realize things are really heating=
 up there! Then they are side by side going down into turn 5. Knowing there i=
s no way two cars are going to through turn 5 faster than one car can, I lay=
 back a little and it unfolds perfectly. I get the run into the corner, am o=
n the ga<br>
&nbsp;s hard tracking out on the preferred line, and can squeeze my way righ=
t up the middle between the two cars! Thanks for making room guys, that was a=
n awesome pass! Bob and Brian continued racing each other so the rest of my r=
ide in the reunion race was not heavily contested, and I was pleased to fini=
sh third behind the two TR8's. As I understand it, Chris had to slow down to=
 let his brakes recover, Joe took the overall lead and by the time Chris had=
 confidence in his brakes again, he was out of time to mount a comeback. He t=
old me he needed one more lap to catch Joe!<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; A few highlights for me over the course of the weekend include:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The whole scene with Christian Marks flying in from Germany to drive Ca=
nadian Pete Bulkowski's TR8. These guys know how to have fun while preparing=
 a fast race car. Then there was Chris' incredible drive on Saturday morning=
's Ground Pounders group session. It was a very wet track and he literally l=
apped the entire field and the rooster tail shooting up behind the TR8 was s=
o cool! Somebody posted some video of that somewhere, maybe somebody can pro=
vide a link?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Meeting Lyman and Dave running the Baja TR3. Taking one look at the car=
 you immediately realized this thing is something special. While it was obvi=
ous the car was not going to be competitive for race wins on a road course, i=
t shows how we still have people who are committed to the Triumph marque, wh=
o are willing to spend the time and effort to save significant Triumph histo=
ry, and are willing to share that with us in venues like the Kastner Cup. We=
ll done Lyman, thanks for your efforts. And well driven Dave, you had a toug=
h task in front of you managing the car on a road course. I can't wait to he=
ar about the car's next chapter!<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I helped out on the K-Cup committee, so seeing how the event unfolded a=
fter all the planning was kind of cool for me. Curt Johnston did a stellar j=
ob, and Jim Dolan steered his crew with the PVGP to really make this a speci=
al event for us. Job well done guys!<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Seeing the family teams in action is always cool for me, we had Sean an=
d Brendan Alexander, Marty and Jason Sukey, Phil and Dave Gott, Jessie and P=
at Darrow, and of course the Dolan family. Sorry if I missed anybody!<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hats off to Joe Alexander and his family, while it may look like all th=
is just happens, there is a lot of work behind the scenes. Thanks guys.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; So next year the race for the Kastner Cup will be at Road America, I ca=
n't wait! With a full grid of the Mid-west Triumph folk gunning for the Cup,=
 I am confident that it will be a spectacular show! I think the smart money w=
ill be on Friendly Ghost Racing, no pressure Jason! :-)<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Henry Frye<br>
&gt; #29 TR250<br>
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