Subject: Re: [Fot] Helmets

From: Philip Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 10:13:29 -0400

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You=E2=80=99ll need a HANS as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 2, 2022, at 12:17 AM, rocky spitfire4.com via Fot <[email-masked]=
et> wrote:
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> The thing about the Snell certification, the Snell Foundation issues the n=
ew stickers in October of the cert year (for the SA, K and M anyway). So the=
 2020 stickers were released to Manufacturers in October 2020. To avoid a la=
nd rush for new helmets, many (most?) sanctioning bodies now maintain the =E2=
=80=9Cold=E2=80=9D standard for one more year (e.g. 2010 was still legal for=
 the 2021 season), requiring the new standard in the second year (e.g. 2022)=
.
> Your 2015 helmets should be good through the 2026 season in many/most sanc=
tioning bodies.
> =20
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> eFrom: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 9:13 PM
> To: Barr, Scott <[email-masked]>
> Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Helmets
> =20
> true for VRG.  Good for ten years. I just replaced my 2010 this year as th=
ey seem to give you a year grace period.
> =20
> On Jun 1, 2022, at 9:56 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
> =20
> Depends on organization, of course, but in most cases yes.
> =20
> Scott (B.)
> =20
> Scott Barr
> McCarty Law LLP
> (920) 257-2233
> From: Fot <[email-masked]> on behalf of Jay De Pol via Fot <fo=
[email-masked]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 8:37:27 PM
> To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [Fot] Helmets
> =20
> Hello all-  Question:  Are SA2015 Helmets still legal for racing?  Am I co=
rrect in thinking that they are legal for ten years from the 2015 date, ther=
efore until 2025?  Is this assumption true for VRG as well as other sanction=
ing bodies?  Thanks!-- Jay De Pol
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">You=E2=80=99ll need a HANS as well.<br><br>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Jun 2, 2022, at 12:17 AM, rocky spitfire4.com via Fot &lt;fo=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The thing about the Snell certification, the Snell Fo=
undation issues the new stickers in October of the cert year (for the SA, K a=
nd M anyway). So the 2020 stickers were released to Manufacturers in October=
 2020. To avoid a land rush for
 new helmets, many (most?) sanctioning bodies now maintain the =E2=80=9Cold=E2=
=80=9D standard for one more year (e.g. 2010 was still legal for the 2021 se=
ason), requiring the new standard in the second year (e.g. 2022).
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Your 2015 helmets should be good through the 2026 sea=
son in many/most sanctioning bodies.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>eFrom:</b> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <=
b>On Behalf Of
</b>Scott Janzen via Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 9:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barr, Scott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Helmets<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">true for VRG. &nbsp;Good for ten years. I just replac=
ed my 2010 this year as they seem to give you a year grace period.<o:p></o:p=
></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Jun 1, 2022, at 9:56 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Depends on organization, of course, but in most cases=
 yes.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Scott (B.)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"ms-outlook-mobile-signature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Scott Barr<br>
McCarty Law LLP<br>
(920) 257-2233<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@au=
tox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Jay De Pol via=
 Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br=
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 8:37:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Helmets <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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</div>
<div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">Hello all-&nbsp; Question:&nbsp; Are SA2015 Helmets sti=
ll legal for racing?&nbsp; Am I correct in thinking that they are legal for t=
en years from the 2015 date, therefore until 2025?&nbsp; Is this
 assumption true for VRG as well as other sanctioning bodies?&nbsp; Thanks!-=
- Jay De Pol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
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From: Jay De Pol via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 15:19:17 +0000 (UTC)

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 Thanks for all of the replies!-- Jay
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-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: rocky spitfire4.com <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Jun 2, 2022 10:13 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Helmets

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 2, 2022, at 12:17 AM, rocky spitfire4.com via Fot <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

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Snell certification, the Snell Foundation issues the new stickers in Octobe=
r of the cert year (for the SA, K and M anyway). So the 2020 stickers were =
released to Manufacturers in October 2020. To avoid a land rush for new hel=
mets, many (most?) sanctioning bodies now maintain the =E2=80=9Cold=E2=80=
=9D standard for one more year (e.g. 2010 was still legal for the 2021 seas=
on), requiring the new standard in the second year (e.g. 2022). Your 2015 h=
elmets should be good through the 2026 season in many/most sanctioning bodi=
es.  =C2=A0  =C2=A0 eFrom: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf OfSco=
tt Janzen via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 9:13 PM
To: Barr, Scott <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Helmets  =C2=A0 true for VRG. =C2=A0Good for ten years. =
I just replaced my 2010 this year as they seem to give you a year grace per=
iod.  =C2=A0 On Jun 1, 2022, at 9:56 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:  =C2=A0 Depends on organization, of course, but in most cases=
 yes.  =C2=A0 Scott (B.)  =C2=A0 Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
(920) 257-2233 From: Fot <[email-masked]> on behalf of Jay De P=
ol via Fot <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 8:37:27 PM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Fot] Helmets  =C2=A0 Hello all-=C2=A0 Question:=C2=A0 Are SA2015 =
Helmets still legal for racing?=C2=A0 Am I correct in thinking that they ar=
e legal for ten years from the 2015 date, therefore until 2025?=C2=A0 Is th=
is assumption true for VRG as well as other sanctioning bodies?=C2=A0 Thank=
s!-- Jay De Pol _______________________________________________
[email-masked]

Archive: http://autox.team.net/archivehttp://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
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<div style=3D"font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Philip Gott via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: rocky spitfire4.com &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Jun 2, 2022 10:13 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Helmets<br>
<br>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 2, 202=
2, at 12:17 AM, rocky spitfire4.com via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrot=
e:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal">The thing about the Snell certificati=
on, the Snell Foundation issues the new stickers in October of the cert yea=
r (for the SA, K and M anyway). So the 2020 stickers were released to Manuf=
acturers in October 2020. To avoid a land rush for
 new helmets, many (most?) sanctioning bodies now maintain the =E2=80=9Cold=
=E2=80=9D standard for one more year (e.g. 2010 was still legal for the 202=
1 season), requiring the new standard in the second year (e.g. 2022).
</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal">Your 2015 helmets should be good thro=
ugh the 2026 season in many/most sanctioning bodies.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div>

<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;">

<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal"><b>eFrom:</b> Fot &lt;fot-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Scott Janzen via Fot<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 9:13 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Barr, Scott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Helmets</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal">true for VRG. &nbsp;Good for ten year=
s. I just replaced my 2010 this year as they seem to give you a year grace =
period.</div>
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<div>

<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div>

<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal">On Jun 1, 2022, at 9:56 PM, Barr, Sco=
tt via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox=
.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div>

<div>

<div>

<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal">Depends on organization, of course, b=
ut in most cases yes.</div>
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</div>

<div>

<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
=20
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<div>

<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal">Scott (B.)</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal">Scott Barr<br clear=3D"none">
McCarty Law LLP<br clear=3D"none">
(920) 257-2233</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fot-=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Jay De Pol via Fot &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fot@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 8:37:27 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none=
">
<b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Helmets </div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
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<div>

<div class=3D"yiv6109914735MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">Hello all-&nbsp; Question:&nbsp; Are SA2015 Helmets sti=
ll legal for racing?&nbsp; Am I correct in thinking that they are legal for=
 ten years from the 2015 date, therefore until 2025?&nbsp; Is this
 assumption true for VRG as well as other sanctioning bodies?&nbsp; Thanks!=
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