Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

From: marty sukey via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 17:08:47 +0000

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Can I run nitrous if I have legal tires?

Marty

Sent from my Galaxy

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From: Curt Johnston via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: 6/27/22 12:11 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Friends of Triumph <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup th=
is year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more for th=
e 20th Kastner Cup!

I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our group=
 that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule=
 for Triumphs.  You can run grooved slick tires in the Kastner Cup.  You ca=
n also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligi=
ble for any awards for podium recognition.  For those that don't have tire =
options this will certainly help.

So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason, pl=
ease consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.

Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.  After July 1, the=
 fee goes up to $645, so act now!
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Thanks.

Curt Johnston
Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair
707-249-1667

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<div dir=3D"auto">Can I run nitrous if I have legal tires?</div>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Marty&nbsp;</div>
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 6/27/22 12:11 PM (GMT-05:00) </div>
<div>To: Friends of Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations </div>
<div><br>
</div>
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,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">Its good news that we=
 have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of tod=
ay).&nbsp; But it would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner C=
up!</span>
<br>
</div>
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,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helvetica=
,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">I wanted to share new=
s about tires that may have impacted some of our group that typically run o=
n slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the &quot;no slicks&quot; rule for T=
riumphs.&nbsp; You can run
<strong><span style=3D"text-decoration:underline">grooved slick tires</span=
></strong> in the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; You can also run these tires in the re=
gular run groups, but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium re=
cognition.&nbsp; For those that don't have tire
 options this will certainly help.&nbsp;</span> </div>
<div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helvetica=
,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helvetica=
,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">So if you're on the f=
ence about attending this year for whatever reason, please consider joining=
 a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.&nbsp;
</span></div>
<div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helvetica=
,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
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,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">Regular entry fee is =
$595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.&nbsp;
<strong>After July 1, the fee goes up to </strong><strong>$645, so act now!=
</strong></span>
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ittee Chair</span>
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From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 13:11:41 -0400

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Only in the tire.

mike h

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:09 PM marty sukey via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup
> this year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more fo=
r
> the 20th Kastner Cup!
>
> I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our
> group that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no slick=
s"
> rule for Triumphs.  You can run *grooved slick tires* in the Kastner
> Cup.  You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you wil=
l
> not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.  For those that
> don't have tire options this will certainly help.
>
> So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason,
> please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.
>
> Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.  *After July 1,
> the fee goes up to **$645, so act now!*
> *2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.=
motorsportreg.com%2Fevents%2F2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-in=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Only in the tire.<div><br></div><div>mike h</div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, J=
un 27, 2022 at 1:09 PM marty sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.=
team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

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<div dir=3D"auto">Can I run nitrous if I have legal tires?</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Marty=C2=A0</div>
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<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:85%;color:rgb(87,87,87)">Sent from my =
Galaxy</div>
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</div>
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 6/27/22 12:11 PM (GMT-05:00) </div>
<div>To: Friends of Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Its good news that we =
have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of toda=
y).=C2=A0 But it would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cu=
p!</span>
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I wanted to share news=
 about tires that may have impacted some of our group that typically run on=
 slick tires.=C2=A0 PVGP has modified the &quot;no slicks&quot; rule for Tr=
iumphs.=C2=A0 You can run
<strong><span style=3D"text-decoration:underline">grooved slick tires</span=
></strong> in the Kastner Cup.=C2=A0 You can also run these tires in the re=
gular run groups, but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium re=
cognition.=C2=A0 For those that don&#39;t have tire
 options this will certainly help.=C2=A0</span> </div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">So if you&#39;re on th=
e fence about attending this year for whatever reason, please consider join=
ing a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.=C2=A0
</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Regular entry fee is $=
595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.=C2=A0
<strong>After July 1, the fee goes up to </strong><strong>$645, so act now!=
</strong></span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(51,51,51)">
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From: Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 13:20:25 -0400

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Curt, why the last minute 180 on the "no exceptions" tire rules?

Jason Sukey

The guy who just purchased a new set of Toyos for this race.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 12:11 PM Curt Johnston via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> this year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more for
> the 20th Kastner Cup!
>
> group that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no slicks"
> Cup.  You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will
> <https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031>*
> (motorsportreg.com)
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>
> Thanks.
>
> Curt Johnston
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<div dir=3D"auto">Curt, why the last minute 180 on the &quot;no exceptions&=
quot; tire rules?=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
Jason Sukey=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The gu=
y who just purchased a new set of Toyos for this race.=C2=A0</div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, J=
un 27, 2022, 12:11 PM Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox=
.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><u></u>

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   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Its good news that =
we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of t=
oday).=C2=A0 But it would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner=
 Cup!</span>
   <br>
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:#333333">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I wanted to share n=
ews about tires that may have impacted some of our group that typically run=
 on slick tires.=C2=A0 PVGP has modified the &quot;no slicks&quot; rule for=
 Triumphs.=C2=A0 You can run <strong><span style=3D"text-decoration:underli=
ne">grooved slick tires</span></strong> in the Kastner Cup.=C2=A0 You can a=
lso run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible=
 for any awards for podium recognition.=C2=A0 For those that don&#39;t have=
 tire options this will certainly help.=C2=A0</span>
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er">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race</a></strong><a href=3D"https://www.mot=
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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 13:39:18 -0400

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Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically r=
equires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this event.=
 =20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup t=
his year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more for th=
e 20th Kastner Cup!=20
>=20
> I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our grou=
p that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule=
 for Triumphs.  You can run grooved slick tires in the Kastner Cup.  You can=
 also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligibl=
e for any awards for podium recognition.  For those that don't have tire opt=
ions this will certainly help.=20
>=20
> So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason, p=
lease consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.=20
>=20
> Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.  After July 1, th=
e fee goes up to $645, so act now!
> 2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race (motorsportreg.com)
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> Thanks.
>=20
> Curt Johnston
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Not good news for those of us who consisten=
tly run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and are not going t=
o buy a set of R7s for this event. &nbsp;<div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 27,=
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Its good news th=
at we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of=
 today).&nbsp; But it would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastne=
r Cup!</span>
   <br>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:=
#333333;" class=3D"default-style">
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#333333;" class=3D"default-style">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I wanted to shar=
e news about tires that may have impacted some of our group that typically r=
un on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule for Triumphs=
.&nbsp; You can run <strong><span style=3D"text-decoration: underline;">groo=
ved slick tires</span></strong> in the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; You can also run t=
hese tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible for any a=
wards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that don't have tire options t=
his will certainly help.&nbsp;</span>
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  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:=
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he fence about attending this year for whatever reason, please consider join=
ing a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.&nbsp; </span>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:=
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e is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; <strong>After July 1, the fee=
 goes up to </strong><strong>$645, so act now!</strong></span>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:=
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burgh-international-compl-vintage-771031">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race</=
a></strong><a href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-histori=
cs-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031"> (motorsportr=
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Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while
setting standards for who can podium.

Am I missing something on that angle?

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which
> typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s f=
or
> this event.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
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<div dir=3D"auto">Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people t=
o race, while setting standards for who can podium.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Am I missing something on that angle?=C2=
=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_attr">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Not good news for those of us =
who consistently run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and a=
re not going to buy a set of R7s for this event. =C2=A0<div><br><br><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BF

 =20
  =20
=20
=20
burgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_blank">2022 PVGP Histo=
rics at Pitt Race</a></strong><a href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/even=
ts/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-=
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The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums
during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.
Jason

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <[email-masked]>
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>> typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s =
for
>> this year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more f=
or
>> group that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no slic=
ks"
>> Cup.  You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you wi=
ll
>> <https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-p=
ittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031>*
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competin=
g for podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.<d=
iv>Jason</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Seem=
s like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while setting =
standards for who can podium.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">Am I missing something on that angle?=C2=A0</div><div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 27,=
 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Not good news fo=
r those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically requires treade=
d tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this event. =C2=A0<div><=
br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bloc=
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The FOT tries to rely more on common sense than rules.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711

> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums du=
ring the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.
> Jason
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>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>> Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while se=
tting standards for who can podium.=20
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>> Am I missing something on that angle?=20
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>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>>> Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typica=
lly requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this e=
vent. =20
>>>=20
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:
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>>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>>> Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cu=
p this year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more for=
 the 20th Kastner Cup!=20
>>>>=20
>>>> I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our g=
roup that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no slicks" r=
ule for Triumphs.  You can run grooved slick tires in the Kastner Cup.  You c=
an also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligi=
ble for any awards for podium recognition.  For those that don't have tire o=
ptions this will certainly help.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason=
, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.=20
>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">The FOT tries to rely more on common sense t=
han rules.<div><br></div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Joe Alexander<div>450=
5 Donald Dr</div><div>Cedar Falls, IA 50613</div><div>The-vintage-racer.com<=
/div><div>Gasketinnovations.com</div><div>Cell: &nbsp;319.464.4711</div><div=
><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 27, 2=
022, at 12:49 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><=
br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing f=
or podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.<div>J=
ason</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Seems like a re=
asonable compromise to allow more people to race, while setting standards fo=
r who can podium.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">A=
m I missing something on that angle?&nbsp;</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 P=
M Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Not good news for those of us who c=
onsistently run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and are not=
 going to buy a set of R7s for this event. &nbsp;<div><br><br><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">O=
n Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>=
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rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Its good news that w=
e have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of tod=
ay).&nbsp; But it would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cu=
p!</span>
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rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I wanted to share ne=
ws about tires that may have impacted some of our group that typically run o=
n slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule for Triumphs.&nb=
sp; You can run <strong><span style=3D"text-decoration:underline">grooved sl=
ick tires</span></strong> in the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; You can also run these t=
ires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible for any awards f=
or podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that don't have tire options this wil=
l certainly help.&nbsp;</span>
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rgb(51,51,51)">
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rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">So if you're on the f=
ence about attending this year for whatever reason, please consider joining a=
 huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.&nbsp; </span>
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s up to </strong><strong>$645, so act now!</strong></span>
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ttps://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsbu=
rgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_blank">2022 PVGP Historic=
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As I understand things, the Kastner Cup has not had many restrictions other=
 than being a "Triumph powered race car".  Joe Alexander mentioned the rule=
s are more common sense than strict regulations.  But please see the attach=
ed VRG rules on tires.  The options simply don't fit some cars, so a compro=
mise was reached to allow cars to run that otherwise would not attend.  So =
hopefully this will increase the car count.=20

With treaded grooved slicks a car is eligible for KCup awards.  But the car=
 is not eligible for any other PGVP/VRG awards such as a podium position.  =
So basically cars with grooved slicks are running practice laps other than =
the two KCup races.  That's a pretty significant impact on someone's weeken=
d.  If someone has an option to run the tires below, they will.  But if it =
requires purchasing new wheels and totally changing the set up of the car f=
or one race, they likely wouldn't do it.

Below are excerpts from the VRG tire regulations.

Some examples of acceptable tires:
* Avon ACB10
* Goodyear Blue Streak
* Hoosier Street TD & Speedster
* Toyo RA1, R888- R888R, R1R
NON-DOT Racing Tires: The non-DOT treaded racing tires listed below are app=
roved for VRG competition:
=E2=80=A2 Avon: ACB9, CR6ZZ, A29, H-003 and H-009
=E2=80=A2 Goodyear: BlueStreaks, Vintage Sports Car Specials, G12 and G12A
=E2=80=A2 Hoosier: Vintage TD, Street TD, Speedster, TDR, TDS, R35B, and VF=
F
=E2=80=A2 Dunlop: L-series, M-series, CR65, and CR82

Curt Johnston
[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
707-249-1667

>     On 06/27/2022 11:31 AM marty sukey via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
>=20
>     Slicks, fiberglass, what's next full SCCA cars? Just sayin....
>=20
>     Marty, at the back of the pack but....
>=20
>=20
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: Fot <[email-masked]> on behalf of Joe Alexander via=
 Fot <[email-masked]>
>     Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 1:59 PM
>     To: Jason Sukey <[email-masked]>
>     Cc: Friends of Triumph <[email-masked]>
>     Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
>=20
>         > > On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <fot@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> >     >=20
>         > >         The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still com=
peting for podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting =
it.
> >         Jason
> >=20
> >         On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot@autox.=
team.net mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> >=20
> >             > > >             Seems like a reasonable compromise to all=
ow more people to race, while setting standards for who can podium.=20
> > >             On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > >=20
> > >                 > > > >                 Not good news for those of us=
 who consistently run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and =
are not going to buy a set of R7s for this event. =20
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >                 Sent from my iPhone
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >                     > > > > > On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Jo=
hnston via Fot <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > > >                     > > > > >                     Its good news tha=
t we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of=
 today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cu=
p!
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     I wanted to share news about tires that may h=
ave impacted some of our group that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has=
 modified the "no slicks" rule for Triumphs.  You can run grooved slick tir=
es in the Kastner Cup.  You can also run these tires in the regular run gro=
ups, but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.  F=
or those that don't have tire options this will certainly help.=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     So if you're on the fence about attending thi=
s year for whatever reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup=
 at Pitt Race.=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the K=
astner Cup.  After July 1, the fee goes up to $645, so act now!
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>As I understand things, the Kastner Cup has not had many restrictions othe=
r than being a "Triumph powered race car".&nbsp; Joe Alexander mentioned th=
e rules are more common sense than strict regulations.&nbsp; But please see=
 the attached VRG rules on tires.&nbsp; The options simply don't fit some c=
ars, so a compromise was reached to allow cars to run that otherwise would =
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etica; font-size: 12pt;">With treaded grooved slicks a car is eligible for =
KCup awards.&nbsp; But the car is not eligible for any other PGVP/VRG award=
s such as a podium position.&nbsp; So basically cars with grooved slicks ar=
e running practice laps other than the two KCup races.&nbsp; That's a prett=
y significant impact on someone's weekend.&nbsp; If someone has an option t=
o run the tires below, they will.&nbsp; But if it requires purchasing new w=
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     Slicks, fiberglass, what's next full SCCA cars? Just sayin....=20
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t &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, June 27, 2022 1:5=
9 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Jason Sukey &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><stron=
g>Cc:</strong> Friends of Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><strong>Sub=
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     The FOT tries to rely more on common sense than rules.=20
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       Joe Alexander=20
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        4505 Donald Dr=20
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         The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for po=
diums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.=20
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=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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           Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race,=
 while setting standards for who can podium.&nbsp;=20
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           Am I missing something on that angle?&nbsp;=20
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             On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a ta=
rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">fot@aut=
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              Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, w=
hich typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7=
s for this event. &nbsp;=20
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                 On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a=
 target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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                <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial=
,sans-serif; color: #333333;"> <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-=
size: 12pt;">Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the K=
astner Cup this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; But it would be great to be at=
 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!</span>=20
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size: 12pt;">I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some=
 of our group that typically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified th=
e "no slicks" rule for Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run <strong><span style=3D"t=
ext-decoration: underline;">grooved slick tires</span></strong> in the Kast=
ner Cup.&nbsp; You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but =
you will not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For t=
hose that don't have tire options this will certainly help.&nbsp;</span>=20
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er reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.&nb=
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From: Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:27:00 -0400

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Curt,
      I am very familiar with the VRG tire rules and common sense.  Many of
us are running cars with SCCA history (full racing slicks) that have been
converted to run vintage legal rubber.

My main complaint in this matter is the rules you provided to all of FOT
back in March were very clear on what tires would/would not be acceptable
at Kastner Cup.  To change those rules less than 3 wheels prior to the
event is a disappointment to all of us who were excited for an even playing
field.  This should've been communicated to all racers long ago.

Jason Sukey

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 3:03 PM Curt Johnston <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> As I understand things, the Kastner Cup has not had many restrictions
> other than being a "Triumph powered race car".  Joe Alexander mentioned t=
he
> rules are more common sense than strict regulations.  But please see the
> attached VRG rules on tires.  The options simply don't fit some cars, so =
a
> compromise was reached to allow cars to run that otherwise would not
> attend.  So hopefully this will increase the car count.
>
> With treaded grooved slicks a car is eligible for KCup awards.  But the
> car is not eligible for any other PGVP/VRG awards such as a podium
> position.  So basically cars with grooved slicks are running practice lap=
s
> other than the two KCup races.  That's a pretty significant impact on
> someone's weekend.  If someone has an option to run the tires below, they
> will.  But if it requires purchasing new wheels and totally changing the
> set up of the car for one race, they likely wouldn't do it.
>
>    - Avon ACB10
>    - Goodyear Blue Streak
>    - Hoosier Street TD & Speedster
>    - Toyo RA1, R888- R888R, R1R
>
> NON-DOT Racing Tires: The non-DOT treaded racing tires listed below are
> approved for VRG competition:
> =E2=80=A2 Goodyear: BlueStreaks, Vintage Sports Car Specials, G12 and G12=
A
> =E2=80=A2 Hoosier: Vintage TD, Street TD, Speedster, TDR, TDS, R35B, and =
VFF
> On 06/27/2022 11:31 AM marty sukey via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Fot <[email-masked]> on behalf of Joe Alexander via
> Fot <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2022 1:59 PM
> *To:* Jason Sukey <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Friends of Triumph <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
>
> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Curt,=C2=A0<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am very familiar wi=
th the VRG tire rules and common sense.=C2=A0 Many of us are running cars w=
ith SCCA history (full racing slicks) that have been converted to run vinta=
ge legal=C2=A0rubber.</div><div><br></div><div>My main complaint in this ma=
tter is the rules you provided to all of FOT back in March were very clear =
on what tires would/would not be acceptable at Kastner Cup.=C2=A0 To change=
 those rules less than 3 wheels prior to the event is a disappointment to a=
ll of us who were excited for an even playing field.=C2=A0 This should&#39;=
ve been communicated to all racers long ago.</div><div><br></div><div>Jason=
 Sukey</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 3:03 PM Curt Johnston &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<u></u>

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understand things, the Kastner Cup has not had many restrictions other than=
 being a &quot;Triumph powered race car&quot;.=C2=A0 Joe Alexander mentione=
d the rules are more common sense than strict regulations.=C2=A0 But please=
 see the attached VRG rules on tires.=C2=A0 The options simply don&#39;t fi=
t some cars, so a compromise was reached to allow cars to run that otherwis=
e would not attend.=C2=A0 So hopefully this will increase the car count.=C2=
=A0 </span>=20
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  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br><=
/span>=20
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">With =
treaded grooved slicks a car is eligible for KCup awards.=C2=A0 But the car=
 is not eligible for any other PGVP/VRG awards such as a podium position.=
=C2=A0 So basically cars with grooved slicks are running practice laps othe=
r than the two KCup races.=C2=A0 That&#39;s a pretty significant impact on =
someone&#39;s weekend.=C2=A0 If someone has an option to run the tires belo=
w, they will.=C2=A0 But if it requires purchasing new wheels and totally ch=
anging the set up of the car for one race, they likely wouldn&#39;t do it.<=
/span>=20
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:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br><=
/span>=20
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:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Below=
 are excerpts from the VRG tire regulations.</span>=20
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  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Some examples of acceptable=
 tires:</span>=20
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:rgb(51,51,51)">=20
   <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">=20
    <ul>=20
     <li>Avon ACB10</li>=20
     <li>Goodyear Blue Streak</li>=20
     <li>Hoosier Street TD &amp; Speedster</li>=20
     <li>Toyo RA1, R888- R888R, R1R</li>=20
    </ul>=20
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   <div>
     NON-DOT Racing Tires:=C2=A0The non-DOT treaded racing tires listed bel=
ow=C2=A0are approved for VRG competition:=20
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   <div style=3D"padding-left:40px">
     =E2=80=A2=C2=A0Avon: ACB9, CR6ZZ, A29, H-003 and H-009=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"padding-left:40px">
     =E2=80=A2=C2=A0Goodyear: BlueStreaks, Vintage Sports Car Specials, G12=
 and G12A=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"padding-left:40px">
     =E2=80=A2=C2=A0Hoosier: Vintage TD, Street TD, Speedster, TDR, TDS, R3=
5B, and VFF=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"padding-left:40px">
     =E2=80=A2=C2=A0Dunlop: L-series, M-series, CR65, and CR82=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"padding-left:40px;font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,ari=
al,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=20
    <br>=20
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r:rgb(51,51,51)">
     Curt Johnston=20
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r:rgb(51,51,51)"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>=20
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     707-249-1667=20
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  <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
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     On 06/27/2022 11:31 AM marty sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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lor:rgb(0,0,0)">
     Slicks, fiberglass, what&#39;s next full SCCA cars? Just sayin....=20
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lor:rgb(0,0,0)">=20
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lor:rgb(0,0,0)">
     Marty, at the back of the pack but....=20
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nsend">=20
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   <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"gmail-m_3489030541975702446gmail-m_30727611054363=
29480divRplyFwdMsg"> <span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</stron=
g> Monday, June 27, 2022 1:59 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Jason Sukey &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> Friends of Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Subject=
:</strong> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations</span>=20
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   <div dir=3D"auto">
     The FOT tries to rely more on common sense than rules.=20
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       Joe Alexander=20
      <div>
        4505 Donald Dr=20
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      <div>
        Cedar Falls, IA 50613=20
      </div>=20
      <div>
        The-vintage-racer.com=20
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        Gasketinnovations.com=20
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        Cell: =C2=A0319.464.4711=20
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      <blockquote type=3D"cite">
        On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:=20
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     <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">=20
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
         The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for po=
diums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.=20
        <div>
          Jason=20
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          On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:=20
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         <div dir=3D"auto">
           Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race,=
 while setting standards for who can podium.=C2=A0=20
         </div>=20
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           Am I missing something on that angle?=C2=A0=20
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             On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">fot@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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            <div dir=3D"auto">
              Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, w=
hich typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7=
s for this event. =C2=A0=20
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                Sent from my iPhone=20
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                 On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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                <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-si=
ze:12pt">Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastn=
er Cup this year (39 as of today).=C2=A0 But it would be great to be at 40 =
or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!</span>=20
                 <br>=20
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                <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-si=
ze:12pt"><br></span>=20
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                <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-si=
ze:12pt">I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of =
our group that typically run on slick tires.=C2=A0 PVGP has modified the &q=
uot;no slicks&quot; rule for Triumphs.=C2=A0 You can run <strong><span styl=
e=3D"text-decoration:underline">grooved slick tires</span></strong> in the =
Kastner Cup.=C2=A0 You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, =
but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.=C2=A0 F=
or those that don&#39;t have tire options this will certainly help.=C2=A0</=
span>=20
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ns-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-si=
ze:12pt">So if you&#39;re on the fence about attending this year for whatev=
er reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.=C2=
=A0 </span>=20
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ns-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-si=
ze:12pt">Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.=C2=A0 <st=
rong>After July 1, the fee goes up to </strong><strong>$645, so act now!</s=
trong></span>=20
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t-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031&amp;data=3D05%7C0=
1%7C%7C23a76189f18749d27c8f08da5866e20f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%=
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TS3%2FKnaaQt8ODHWRPEoTZO9mtrE%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" rel=3D"noopener" target=
=3D"_blank"> (motorsportreg.com)</a></span>=20
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ns-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-si=
ze:12pt">Thanks.</span>=20
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From: Curt Johnston via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 12:30:37 -0700 (PDT)

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Sorry about this Jason.  You're right of course.  We found out last month a=
nd there was a delay on my part getting the word out.

Curt

>     On 06/27/2022 12:27 PM Jason Sukey <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>     Curt,=20
>           I am very familiar with the VRG tire rules and common sense.  M=
any of us are running cars with SCCA history (full racing slicks) that have=
 been converted to run vintage legal rubber.
>=20
>     My main complaint in this matter is the rules you provided to all of =
FOT back in March were very clear on what tires would/would not be acceptab=
le at Kastner Cup.  To change those rules less than 3 wheels prior to the e=
vent is a disappointment to all of us who were excited for an even playing =
field.  This should've been communicated to all racers long ago.
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>     Jason Sukey
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>     On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 3:03 PM Curt Johnston <curt.johnston@comcast.=
net mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
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>         > >         As I understand things, the Kastner Cup has not had m=
any restrictions other than being a "Triumph powered race car".  Joe Alexan=
der mentioned the rules are more common sense than strict regulations.  But=
 please see the attached VRG rules on tires.  The options simply don't fit =
some cars, so a compromise was reached to allow cars to run that otherwise =
would not attend.  So hopefully this will increase the car count.=20
> >=20
> >         With treaded grooved slicks a car is eligible for KCup awards. =
 But the car is not eligible for any other PGVP/VRG awards such as a podium=
 position.  So basically cars with grooved slicks are running practice laps=
 other than the two KCup races.  That's a pretty significant impact on some=
one's weekend.  If someone has an option to run the tires below, they will.=
  But if it requires purchasing new wheels and totally changing the set up =
of the car for one race, they likely wouldn't do it.
> >         NON-DOT Racing Tires: The non-DOT treaded racing tires listed b=
elow are approved for VRG competition:
> >              =E2=80=A2 Goodyear: BlueStreaks, Vintage Sports Car Specia=
ls, G12 and G12A
> >              =E2=80=A2 Hoosier: Vintage TD, Street TD, Speedster, TDR, =
TDS, R35B, and VFF
> >             > > >             On 06/27/2022 11:31 AM marty sukey via Fo=
t <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >             Slicks, fiberglass, what's next full SCCA cars? Just sayi=
n....
> > >             From: Fot <[email-masked] mailto:fot-bounces@=
autox.team.net > on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot <[email-masked] mai=
lto:[email-masked] >
> > >             To: Jason Sukey <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
 >
> > >             Cc: Friends of Triumph <[email-masked] mailto:fot@aut=
ox.team.net >
> > >                 > > > > On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Jason Sukey via=
 Fot <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >             > > >=20
> > >                 > > > >                 The way I read it, treaded sl=
ick racers are still competing for podiums during the K Cup races, but I co=
uld be mis-interpreting it.
> > > >                 Jason
> > > >=20
> > > >                 On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot=
 <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > > >                     > > > > >                     Seems like a reas=
onable compromise to allow more people to race, while setting standards for=
 who can podium.=20
> > > > >                     On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen =
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> > > > >                         > > > > > >                         Not g=
ood news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically requ=
ires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this event. =
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> > > > > >                             > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 2022, at 1=
2:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
t > wrote:
> > > > > >                             > > > > > > >                      =
       Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner=
 Cup this year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more=
 for the 20th Kastner Cup!
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > >                             I wanted to share news about tire=
s that may have impacted some of our group that typically run on slick tire=
s.  PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule for Triumphs.  You can run groov=
ed slick tires in the Kastner Cup.  You can also run these tires in the reg=
ular run groups, but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium rec=
ognition.  For those that don't have tire options this will certainly help.=
=20
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > >                             So if you're on the fence about a=
ttending this year for whatever reason, please consider joining a huge 20th=
 Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.=20
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > >                             Regular entry fee is $595, plus $=
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Sorry about thi=
s Jason.&nbsp; You're right of course.&nbsp; We found out last month and th=
ere was a delay on my part getting the word out.</span>
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    On 06/27/2022 12:27 PM Jason Sukey &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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    Curt,&nbsp;
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     &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I am very familiar with the VRG tire rules and co=
mmon sense.&nbsp; Many of us are running cars with SCCA history (full racin=
g slicks) that have been converted to run vintage legal&nbsp;rubber.
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     My main complaint in this matter is the rules you provided to all of F=
OT back in March were very clear on what tires would/would not be acceptabl=
e at Kastner Cup.&nbsp; To change those rules less than 3 wheels prior to t=
he event is a disappointment to all of us who were excited for an even play=
ing field.&nbsp; This should've been communicated to all racers long ago.
    </div>
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     <br>
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     Jason Sukey
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     On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 3:03 PM Curt Johnston &lt;<a target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">curt.johnston@c=
omcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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     <u></u>
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f; color: #333333;">
       <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">As I unders=
tand things, the Kastner Cup has not had many restrictions other than being=
 a "Triumph powered race car".&nbsp; Joe Alexander mentioned the rules are =
more common sense than strict regulations.&nbsp; But please see the attache=
d VRG rules on tires.&nbsp; The options simply don't fit some cars, so a co=
mpromise was reached to allow cars to run that otherwise would not attend.&=
nbsp; So hopefully this will increase the car count.&nbsp; </span>
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f; color: #333333;">
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f; color: #333333;">
       <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">With treade=
d grooved slicks a car is eligible for KCup awards.&nbsp; But the car is no=
t eligible for any other PGVP/VRG awards such as a podium position.&nbsp; S=
o basically cars with grooved slicks are running practice laps other than t=
he two KCup races.&nbsp; That's a pretty significant impact on someone's we=
ekend.&nbsp; If someone has an option to run the tires below, they will.&nb=
sp; But if it requires purchasing new wheels and totally changing the set u=
p of the car for one race, they likely wouldn't do it.</span>
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f; color: #333333;">
       <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Below are e=
xcerpts from the VRG tire regulations.</span>
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f; color: #333333;">
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f; color: #333333;">
       <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Some examples of acceptable tires:<=
/span>=20
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if; color: #333333;">
        <ul>
         <li>Avon ACB10</li>
         <li>Goodyear Blue Streak</li>
         <li>Hoosier Street TD &amp; Speedster</li>
         <li>Toyo RA1, R888- R888R, R1R</li>
        </ul>
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        NON-DOT Racing Tires:&nbsp;The non-DOT treaded racing tires listed =
below&nbsp;are approved for VRG competition:
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       <div style=3D"padding-left: 40px;">
        =E2=80=A2&nbsp;Avon: ACB9, CR6ZZ, A29, H-003 and H-009
       </div>
       <div style=3D"padding-left: 40px;">
        =E2=80=A2&nbsp;Goodyear: BlueStreaks, Vintage Sports Car Specials, =
G12 and G12A
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       <div style=3D"padding-left: 40px;">
        =E2=80=A2&nbsp;Hoosier: Vintage TD, Street TD, Speedster, TDR, TDS,=
 R35B, and VFF
       </div>
       <div style=3D"padding-left: 40px;">
        =E2=80=A2&nbsp;Dunlop: L-series, M-series, CR65, and CR82
       </div>
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etica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
        <br>
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if; color: #333333;">
        Curt Johnston
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if; color: #333333;">
        <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>
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       <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-ser=
if; color: #333333;">
        707-249-1667
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        On 06/27/2022 11:31 AM marty sukey via Fot &lt;<a target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:
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12pt; color: #000000;">
        Slicks, fiberglass, what's next full SCCA cars? Just sayin....
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12pt; color: #000000;">
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12pt; color: #000000;">
        Marty, at the back of the pack but....
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endonsend">
        <br>
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        <span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibr=
i,sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong> Fot &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt; on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, June 27, 2022 1:59 PM<br><strong>To:</st=
rong> Jason Sukey &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> Friends =
of Triumph &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [=
Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations</span>
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        The FOT tries to rely more on common sense than rules.
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          Joe Alexander
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           4505 Donald Dr
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           Cedar Falls, IA 50613
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           The-vintage-racer.com
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           Gasketinnovations.com
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           Cell: &nbsp;319.464.4711
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           On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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            The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for=
 podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.
            <div>
             Jason
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             On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &lt;<a tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">fot@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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              Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to ra=
ce, while setting standards for who can podium.&nbsp;
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              <br>
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              Am I missing something on that angle?&nbsp;
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                On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a=
 target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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                 Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage=
, which typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of=
 R7s for this event. &nbsp;
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                   Sent from my iPhone
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                    On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot &lt=
;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">f=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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rial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
                     <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt=
;">Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup=
 this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; But it would be great to be at 40 or mor=
e for the 20th Kastner Cup!</span>=20
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rial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
                     <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt=
;"><br></span>
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rial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
                     <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt=
;">I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our gr=
oup that typically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the "no slic=
ks" rule for Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run <strong><span style=3D"text-decora=
tion: underline;">grooved slick tires</span></strong> in the Kastner Cup.&n=
bsp; You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will n=
ot be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that =
don't have tire options this will certainly help.&nbsp;</span>
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rial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
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;"><br></span>
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rial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
                     <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt=
;">So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason,=
 please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.&nbsp; </span=
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rial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
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;"><br></span>
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rial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
                     <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt=
;">Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; <strong>A=
fter July 1, the fee goes up to </strong><strong>$645, so act now!</strong>=
</span>
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                     <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt=
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From: Chris Marx via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 23:21:33 +0200

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Just a question.

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When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks =
in the K-Cup race.

Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed anymore?

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Cheers

Chris

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Von: Fot <[email-masked]> Im Auftrag von Jason Sukey via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49
An: Brian Dolan <[email-masked]>
Cc: Friends of Triumph <[email-masked]>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

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The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums =
during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.

Jason

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On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <[email-masked] =

Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while =
setting standards for who can podium.=20

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On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked] =

Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which =
typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s =
for this event. =20

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On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <[email-masked] =

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Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup =
this year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more =
for the 20th Kastner Cup!=20

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I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our =
group that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no =
slicks" rule for Triumphs.  You can run grooved slick tires in the =
Kastner Cup.  You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, =
but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.  For =
those that don't have tire options this will certainly help. =20

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So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason, =
please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race. =20

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Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.  After July 1, =
the fee goes up to $645, so act now!=20

2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race =
<https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pi=
ttsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031>  (motorsportreg.com) =
<https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pi=
ttsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031> =20

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Thanks.=20

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Curt Johnston=20

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707-249-1667=20

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE>Just a =
question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>When I was =
part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks in the =
K-Cup race.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Has the rule been changed =
that slicks are not allowed anymore?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von =
</b>Jason Sukey via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 27. Juni 2022 =
19:49<br><b>An:</b> Brian Dolan =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Friends of Triumph =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire =
Regulations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The way =
I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums during =
the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting =
it.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jason<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more =
people to race, while setting standards for who can =
podium.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Am I missing something on that =
angle?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Not =
good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically =
requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this =
event. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt =
Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner =
Cup this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; But it would be great to be at 40 =
or more for the 20th Kastner Cup! <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our =
group that typically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the =
&quot;no slicks&quot; rule for Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run =
<strong><u><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>grooved =
slick tires</span></u></strong> in the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; You can also =
run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible =
for any awards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that don't have =
tire options this will certainly help.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever =
reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt =
Race.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; =
<strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>After July 1, =
the fee goes up to $645, so act now!</span></strong> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><a =
href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-=
race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" =
target=3D"_blank">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt =
Race</a></span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><a =
href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-=
race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_blank"> =
(motorsportreg.com)</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Thanks. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Curt Johnston <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>707-249-1667 <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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Maybe to add from my chats with Kas himself.

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As far I know about the K-Cup it is not the car which cross the finish =
first is the K-Cup winner, it is the car with =E2=80=9Cout of class =
performance=E2=80=9D who wins.

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A TR8 on slicks is a disadvantage to win. Too much power, too wide =
track, too modern design.

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If I would chose a car to win the K-Cup, it would be a 1.1L Spitfire on =
TD tires :), a underpowered car, driven like stolen.

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Cheers

Chris

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Von: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=20
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:22
An: 'Jason Sukey' <[email-masked]>; 'Brian Dolan' =
<[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' <[email-masked]>
Betreff: AW: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

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Just a question.

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Cheers

Chris

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Jason

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Maybe to add from my chats =
with Kas himself.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As far I =
know about the K-Cup it is not the car which cross the finish first is =
the K-Cup winner, it is the car with =E2=80=9Cout of class =
performance=E2=80=9D who wins.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>A TR8 on =
slicks is a disadvantage to win. Too much power, too wide track, too =
modern design.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If I would =
chose a car to win the K-Cup, it would be a 1.1L Spitfire on TD tires =
<span style=3D'font-family:Wingdings'>J</span>, a underpowered car, =
driven like stolen.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:22<br><b>An:</b> 'Jason =
Sukey' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 'Brian Dolan' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Friends of Triumph' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire =
Regulations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE>Just a question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there =
were cars on slicks in the K-Cup race.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed =
anymore?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Jason Sukey via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49<br><b>An:</b> Brian Dolan &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>C=
c:</b> Friends of Triumph &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Betre=
ff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire =
Regulations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The way =
I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums during =
the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting =
it.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jason<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Seems like a reasonable compromise to =
allow more people to race, while setting standards for who can =
podium.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Am I missing something on that =
angle?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Not good news for those of us who =
consistently run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and =
are not going to buy a set of R7s for this event. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt =
Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner =
Cup this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; But it would be great to be at 40 =
or more for the 20th Kastner Cup! <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our =
group that typically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the =
&quot;no slicks&quot; rule for Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run =
<strong><u><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>grooved =
slick tires</span></u></strong> in the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; You can also =
run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible =
for any awards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that don't have =
tire options this will certainly help.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever =
reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt =
Race.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; =
<strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>After July 1, =
the fee goes up to $645, so act now!</span></strong> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><a =
href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-=
race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" =
target=3D"_blank">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt =
Race</a></span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><a =
href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-=
race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_blank"> =
(motorsportreg.com)</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Curt Johnston <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
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tire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I =
understand it.   VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) =
have never allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here.  =
However, it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go =
through tech with treaded tires, which may end up being raced with other =
tires - just sayin!  Tech is basically a safety process, not a rules =
enforcement - we are supposed to be self-policing.  I think you=E2=80=99re=
 seeing a pretty good reaction here because of the late timing of the =
announcement, and also because many of the Triumph racers at this event =
run a lot of races with VRG and other east coast clubs that require =
treaded tires.  It really does put the cars on an unequal footing (no =
pun intended) and all other things being equal, the car on slicks will =
be significantly faster.  We all know ways we could make our cars faster =
- wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - but that=E2=80=
=99s not vintage.
I for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the =
event, even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the =
awards.  I personally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on =
slicks, you=E2=80=99ve lost your bragging rights. =20
Just my 2 cents.
Scott

On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot <[email-masked]> =
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Just a question.
=20
Von: Fot <[email-masked] =
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot =
>> =20
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>=20
>>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot =
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF=20
>>> Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner =
Cup this year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or =
more for the 20th Kastner Cup!=20
>>> =20
>>> I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of =
our group that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no =
>>> =20
>>> So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever =
reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race. =20=

>>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">tire =
rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I =
understand it. &nbsp; VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire =
rules) have never allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here. =
&nbsp;However, it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go =
through tech with treaded tires, which may end up being raced with other =
tires - just sayin! &nbsp;Tech is basically a safety process, not a =
rules enforcement - we are supposed to be self-policing. &nbsp;I think =
you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty good reaction here because of the late =
timing of the announcement, and also because many of the Triumph racers =
at this event run a lot of races with VRG and other east coast clubs =
that require treaded tires. &nbsp;It really does put the cars on an =
unequal footing (no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the =
car on slicks will be significantly faster. &nbsp;We all know ways we =
could make our cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, =
programmable ignition - but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.<div class=3D"">I =
for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the event, =
even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the awards. =
&nbsp;I personally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on =
slicks, you=E2=80=99ve lost your bragging rights. &nbsp;<br =
class=3D""><div>Just my 2 cents.</div><div>Scott</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div><div class=3D"">On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris =
Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana-Bold; =
font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"DE" class=3D"">Just a =
question.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"DE" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 =
there were cars on slicks in the K-Cup race.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Has the rule been changed =
that slicks are not allowed anymore?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Cheers<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Chris<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"DE" =
class=3D"">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">Im Auftrag =
von<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Jason Sukey =
via Fot<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Gesendet:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Montag, 27. Juni 2022 =
19:49<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">An:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Brian Dolan &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friends of Triumph &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Betreff:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire =
Regulations<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">The way I =
read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums during the =
K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Jason<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via =
Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style:=
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rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; =
margin-right: 0cm;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more =
people to race, while setting standards for who can podium.&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Am I =
missing something on that angle?&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via =
Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style: none =
none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, =
204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: =
0cm;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Not =
good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically =
requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this =
event. &nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt =
Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars =
registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; But it =
would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">I wanted to =
share news about tires that may have impacted some of our group that =
typically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the "no slicks" =
rule for Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong class=3D""><u =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">grooved slick tires</span></u></strong><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>in the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; =
You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not =
be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that =
don't have tire options this will certainly help.&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">So if you're =
on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason, please =
consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">Regular entry =
fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">After July 1, =
the fee goes up to $645, so act now!</span></strong><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><strong class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><a=
 =
href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-r=
ace-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">2022 PVGP =
Historics at Pitt Race</a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: =
12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" =
class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-r=
ace-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>(motorsportreg.com)</a><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">Thanks.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">Curt =
Johnston<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
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style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair<span =
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style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
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class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
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style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">707-249-1667<span =
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The winner of the Kastner Cup displays a certain sense of Triumph excellence=
.=20
One must make a significant contribution to the hobby.
 One must be able to communicate how to win and not be beaten by equipment.
And one must be able to drive with a wit and on the edge...almost like there=
 is no tomorrow.=20
This measure reaches far beyond any rule.
It is more about individuals, cars, and teams.

Jason Ostrowski=20
Friendly Ghost Racing
Triumph GT6 racecars

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2022, at 4:54 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFtire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, a=
s I understand it.   VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) h=
ave never allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here.  However, i=
t=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech with t=
readed tires, which may end up being raced with other tires - just sayin!  T=
ech is basically a safety process, not a rules enforcement - we are supposed=
 to be self-policing.  I think you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty good reaction h=
ere because of the late timing of the announcement, and also because many of=
 the Triumph racers at this event run a lot of races with VRG and other east=
 coast clubs that require treaded tires.  It really does put the cars on an u=
nequal footing (no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the car o=
n slicks will be significantly faster.  We all know ways we could make our c=
ars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - but t=
hat=E2=80=99s not vintage.
> I for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the event,=
 even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the awards.  I p=
ersonally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=80=99=
ve lost your bragging rights. =20
> Just my 2 cents.
> Scott
>=20
> On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> Just a question.
> =20
> When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks in=
 the K-Cup race.
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>=
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> =EF=BB=BF=20
ptions this will certainly help. =20
>>>> So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason=
, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race. =20
t
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">The winner of the Kastner Cup displays a ce=
rtain sense of Triumph excellence.&nbsp;<div>One must make a significant con=
tribution to the hobby.</div><div>&nbsp;One must be able to communicate how t=
o win and not be beaten by equipment.<div>And one must be able to drive with=
 a wit and on the edge...almost like there is no tomorrow.&nbsp;</div><div>T=
his measure reaches far beyond any rule.</div><div>It is more about individu=
als, cars, and teams.</div><div><br></div><div>Jason Ostrowski&nbsp;</div><d=
iv>Friendly Ghost Racing</div><div>Triumph GT6 racecars<br><br><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
On Jun 27, 2022, at 4:54 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
 wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8">tire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I u=
nderstand it. &nbsp; VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) h=
ave never allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here. &nbsp;Howev=
er, it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech w=
ith treaded tires, which may end up being raced with other tires - just sayi=
n! &nbsp;Tech is basically a safety process, not a rules enforcement - we ar=
e supposed to be self-policing. &nbsp;I think you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty=
 good reaction here because of the late timing of the announcement, and also=
 because many of the Triumph racers at this event run a lot of races with VR=
G and other east coast clubs that require treaded tires. &nbsp;It really doe=
s put the cars on an unequal footing (no pun intended) and all other things b=
eing equal, the car on slicks will be significantly faster. &nbsp;We all kno=
w ways we could make our cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, pro=
grammable ignition - but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.<div class=3D"">I for on=
e am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the event, even if S=
CCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the awards. &nbsp;I perso=
nally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=80=99ve=
 lost your bragging rights. &nbsp;<br class=3D""><div>Just my 2 cents.</div>=
<div>Scott</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div><div class=3D"">On Jun 27, 20=
22, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interc=
hange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=
=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fo=
nt-family: Verdana-Bold; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-c=
aps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;=
 text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0=
px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><s=
pan lang=3D"DE" class=3D"">Just a question.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></di=
v><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-ser=
if;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"DE" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, s=
ans-serif;" class=3D"">When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there w=
ere cars on slicks in the K-Cup race.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D=
"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""=
>Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed anymore?<o:p class=3D=
""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cali=
bri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D=
"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""=
>Cheers<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11p=
t; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Chris<o:p class=3D""></o:p>=
</div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans=
-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0=
cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p clas=
s=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border=
-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;=
" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibr=
i, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"DE" class=3D"">Von:</=
span></b><span lang=3D"DE" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
&nbsp;</span>Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"=
color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">=
Im Auftrag von<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Jason S=
ukey via Fot<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Gesendet:</b><span class=3D"Apple-c=
onverted-space">&nbsp;</span>Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49<br class=3D""><b cl=
ass=3D"">An:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Brian Dol=
an &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; text-de=
coration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">=
<b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Frie=
nds of Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blu=
e; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br cla=
ss=3D""><b class=3D"">Betreff:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbs=
p;</span>Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span>=
</div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D"">=
<div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
;" class=3D"">The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing fo=
r podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.<o:p cl=
ass=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Jason<o:p class=3D""></o:=
p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family:=
 Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div cla=
ss=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-fam=
ily: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian D=
olan via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue;=
 text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o=
:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style: none none=
 none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); p=
adding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=3D"" t=
ype=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; fon=
t-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Seems like a reasonable compromis=
e to allow more people to race, while setting standards for who can podium.&=
nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:=
 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p cl=
ass=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Am I missing s=
omething on that angle?&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D=
""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-se=
rif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div clas=
s=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, san=
s-serif;" class=3D"">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: bl=
ue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style: none n=
one none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204=
); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=3D=
"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt;=
 font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Not good news for those of us=
 who consistently run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and a=
re not going to buy a set of R7s for this event. &nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p=
></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt;=
 font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-fa=
mily: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone<o:p class=3D""></=
o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; f=
ont-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><=
o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bott=
om: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0=
cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Jun 27, 2=
022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" c=
lass=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></p></block=
quote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=
=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11=
pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<span class=3D"Ap=
ple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D"=
"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-ser=
if;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans=
-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">Its good news that we have nearl=
y 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; B=
ut it would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!<span clas=
s=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div>=
</div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-famil=
y: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D=
"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm;=
 font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51)=
;" class=3D"">I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some=
 of our group that typically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the=
 "no slicks" rule for Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run<span class=3D"Apple-conver=
ted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong class=3D""><u class=3D""><span style=3D"font=
-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">grooved slick tires</span></u></=
strong><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>in the Kastner Cup=
.&nbsp; You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will=
 not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that=
 don't have tire options this will certainly help.&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple=
-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div=
 class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helve=
tica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-siz=
e: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-s=
ize: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" clas=
s=3D"">So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reas=
on, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.&nbsp;<span=
 class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span><=
/div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-=
family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; fon=
t-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><o:p cl=
ass=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin=
: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 5=
1, 51);" class=3D"">Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.=
&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong class=3D"">=
<span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">After July 1,=
 the fee goes up to $645, so act now!</span></strong><o:p class=3D""></o:p><=
/span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt=
; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><strong class=3D""><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51=
, 51);" class=3D""><a href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp=
-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" targe=
t=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">2=
022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race</a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:=
 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D=
""><a href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pi=
tt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D""><span class=3D"Ap=
ple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>(motorsportreg.com)</a><o:p class=3D""></o=
:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:=
 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D=
""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=
=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D=
""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color=
: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">Thanks.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
&nbsp;</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" cla=
ss=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; c=
olor: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>=
</div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-famil=
y: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">Curt Johnsto=
n<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></=
span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt;=
 font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12p=
t; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">K=
astner Cup Race Committee Chair<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;<=
/span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D=
"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""=
><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: r=
gb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D""=
>[email-masked]</a><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div c=
lass=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, s=
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<div dir=3D"auto">Winning the race isn=E2=80=99t everything</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks for clarifying.=C2=A0</div><di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On M=
on, Jun 27, 2022 at 3:05 PM Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex"><u></u>

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  =20
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 <div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">As I unders=
tand things, the Kastner Cup has not had many restrictions other than being=
 a &quot;Triumph powered race car&quot;.=C2=A0 Joe Alexander mentioned the =
rules are more common sense than strict regulations.=C2=A0 But please see t=
he attached VRG rules on tires.=C2=A0 The options simply don&#39;t fit some=
 cars, so a compromise was reached to allow cars to run that otherwise woul=
d not attend.=C2=A0 So hopefully this will increase the car count.=C2=A0 </=
span>=20
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br></span>=
=20
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">With treade=
d grooved slicks a car is eligible for KCup awards.=C2=A0 But the car is no=
t eligible for any other PGVP/VRG awards such as a podium position.=C2=A0 S=
o basically cars with grooved slicks are running practice laps other than t=
he two KCup races.=C2=A0 That&#39;s a pretty significant impact on someone&=
#39;s weekend.=C2=A0 If someone has an option to run the tires below, they =
will.=C2=A0 But if it requires purchasing new wheels and totally changing t=
he set up of the car for one race, they likely wouldn&#39;t do it.</span>=
=20
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br></span>=
=20
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Below are e=
xcerpts from the VRG tire regulations.</span>=20
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br></span>=
=20
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Some examples of acceptable tires=
:</span>=20
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  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:#333333">=20
   <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">=20
    <ul>=20
     <li>Avon ACB10</li>=20
     <li>Goodyear Blue Streak</li>=20
     <li>Hoosier Street TD &amp; Speedster</li>=20
     <li>Toyo RA1, R888- R888R, R1R</li>=20
    </ul>=20
   </div>=20
   <div>
     NON-DOT Racing Tires:=C2=A0The non-DOT treaded racing tires listed bel=
ow=C2=A0are approved for VRG competition:=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"padding-left:40px">
     =E2=80=A2=C2=A0Avon: ACB9, CR6ZZ, A29, H-003 and H-009=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"padding-left:40px">
     =E2=80=A2=C2=A0Goodyear: BlueStreaks, Vintage Sports Car Specials, G12=
 and G12A=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"padding-left:40px">
     =E2=80=A2=C2=A0Hoosier: Vintage TD, Street TD, Speedster, TDR, TDS, R3=
5B, and VFF=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"padding-left:40px">
     =E2=80=A2=C2=A0Dunlop: L-series, M-series, CR65, and CR82=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"padding-left:40px;font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,ari=
al,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=20
    <br>=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">
     Curt Johnston=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">
     707-249-1667=20
   </div>=20
  </div>=20
  <blockquote type=3D"cite"></blockquote></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e">=20
   <div>
     On 06/27/2022 11:31 AM marty sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=20
   </div>=20
   <div>=20
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   </div>=20
   <div>=20
    <br>=20
   </div>=20
   <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;co=
lor:#000000">
     Slicks, fiberglass, what&#39;s next full SCCA cars? Just sayin....=20
   </div>=20
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lor:#000000">=20
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om:</strong> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Joe Alexander v=
ia Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, June 27, 2022 1:59 PM<=
br><strong>To:</strong> Jason Sukey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> Friends=
 of Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot=
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     The FOT tries to rely more on common sense than rules.=20
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        Cedar Falls, IA 50613</a>=20
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        On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
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         The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for po=
diums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.=20
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          On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
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           Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race,=
 while setting standards for who can podium.=C2=A0=20
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           Am I missing something on that angle?=C2=A0=20
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             On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a hr=
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              Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, w=
hich typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7=
s for this event. =C2=A0=20
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                 On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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                <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sa=
ns-serif;color:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12p=
t">Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup=
 this year (39 as of today).=C2=A0 But it would be great to be at 40 or mor=
e for the 20th Kastner Cup!</span>=20
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ns-serif;color:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12p=
t">I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our gr=
oup that typically run on slick tires.=C2=A0 PVGP has modified the &quot;no=
 slicks&quot; rule for Triumphs.=C2=A0 You can run <strong><span style=3D"t=
ext-decoration:underline">grooved slick tires</span></strong> in the Kastne=
r Cup.=C2=A0 You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but yo=
u will not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.=C2=A0 For tho=
se that don&#39;t have tire options this will certainly help.=C2=A0</span>=
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ns-serif;color:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12p=
t">So if you&#39;re on the fence about attending this year for whatever rea=
son, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.=C2=A0 </=
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ns-serif;color:#333333"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12p=
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Scott,

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I=E2=80=99m not familiar with the US rules of racing.

On FIA racing they require period correct tires for vintage racing.

Means threaded tires for cars before 1972 and slicks for cars after that =
date.

There are certainly racing series who have their own rules and allow =
slicks or semis licks for older cars but this are special rules and not =
the historic correct FIA rules.

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Now the problem:

In K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all =
had different rules and different tires and brakes and modification =
regulations.

Means it is unfair by design as an old TR2 can=E2=80=99t hold up with a =
TR6 and a TR6 can=E2=80=99t compete with a prepped IMSA GTO TR8.

They=E2=80=99re all different animals on different modification levels =
and the outcome is for a good part predictable.

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I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get told. I =
don=E2=80=99t bother about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make me =
happy, nothing else.

I don=E2=80=99t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in =
rain if necessary.

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I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered but if =
they=E2=80=99re slicks, we cut them to make them fitting the rules.

If that not helps, we put WD40 on to make them slick.

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Cheers

Chris

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Von: Scott Janzen <[email-masked]>=20
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An: [email-masked]
Cc: Jason Sukey <[email-masked]>; Brian Dolan <[email-masked]>; =
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Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

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tire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I =
understand it.   VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) =
have never allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here.  =
However, it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go =
through tech with treaded tires, which may end up being raced with other =
tires - just sayin!  Tech is basically a safety process, not a rules =
enforcement - we are supposed to be self-policing.  I think =
you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty good reaction here because of the late =
timing of the announcement, and also because many of the Triumph racers =
at this event run a lot of races with VRG and other east coast clubs =
that require treaded tires.  It really does put the cars on an unequal =
footing (no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the car on =
slicks will be significantly faster.  We all know ways we could make our =
cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - =
but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.

Just my 2 cents.

Scott

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On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot <[email-masked] =

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Just a question.

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Cheers

Chris

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Jason

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE>Scott,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m =
not familiar with the US rules of racing.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On FIA racing they require period correct tires for =
vintage racing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Means threaded tires =
for cars before 1972 and slicks for cars after that =
date.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There are certainly racing =
series who have their own rules and allow slicks or semis licks for =
older cars but this are special rules and not the historic correct FIA =
rules.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Now the problem:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>In =
K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all =
had different rules and different tires and brakes and modification =
regulations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Means it is unfair by =
design as an old TR2 can=E2=80=99t hold up with a TR6 and a TR6 =
can=E2=80=99t compete with a prepped IMSA GTO TR8.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>They=E2=80=99re all different animals on different =
modification levels and the outcome is for a good part =
predictable.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get =
told. I don=E2=80=99t bother about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make =
me happy, nothing else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
don=E2=80=99t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in rain =
if necessary.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered =
but if they=E2=80=99re slicks, we cut them to make them fitting the =
rules.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If that not helps, we put WD40 =
on to make them slick.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Scott Janzen &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:54<br><b>An:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> Jason Sukey =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Brian Dolan &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
'Friends of Triumph' Triumph =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire =
Regulations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>tire rules =
are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I understand it. =
&nbsp; VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) have never =
allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here. &nbsp;However, =
it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech =
with treaded tires, which may end up being raced with other tires - just =
sayin! &nbsp;Tech is basically a safety process, not a rules enforcement =
- we are supposed to be self-policing. &nbsp;I think you=E2=80=99re =
seeing a pretty good reaction here because of the late timing of the =
announcement, and also because many of the Triumph racers at this event =
run a lot of races with VRG and other east coast clubs that require =
treaded tires. &nbsp;It really does put the cars on an unequal footing =
(no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the car on slicks =
will be significantly faster. &nbsp;We all know ways we could make our =
cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - =
but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs =
show up for the event, even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires =
into who gets the awards. &nbsp;I personally feel that if you podium by =
1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=80=99ve lost your bragging rights. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Just my 2 =
cents.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Scott<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE>Just a =
question.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there =
were cars on slicks in the K-Cup race.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed =
anymore?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
lang=3DDE>&nbsp;</span></span><span lang=3DDE>Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>Im Auftrag =
von<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>Jason Sukey via =
Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Montag, 27. Juni 2022 =
19:49<br><b>An:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Brian Dolan &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>C=
c:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Friends of =
Triumph &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Betre=
ff:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] =
Kastner Cup Tire Regulations</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still =
competing for podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be =
mis-interpreting it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jason<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Seems like a reasonable compromise =
to allow more people to race, while setting standards for who can =
podium.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Am I missing something on that =
angle?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Not good news for those of us who =
consistently run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and =
are not going to buy a set of R7s for this event. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt =
Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
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class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<span =
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><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner =
Cup this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; But it would be great to be at 40 =
or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our =
group that typically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the =
&quot;no slicks&quot; rule for Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><strong><u><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>grooved slick =
tires</span></u></strong><span =
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can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be =
eligible for any awards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that =
don't have tire options this will certainly help.&nbsp;<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
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3'>So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever =
reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt =
Race.&nbsp;<span =
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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>After July 1, the fee goes =
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race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" =
target=3D"_blank">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt =
Race</a></span></strong><span =
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3'>Curt Johnston<span =
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div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair<span =
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From: Robert Lang via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 16:10:50 +0000 (UTC)

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 I'll BRING A CASE OF WD40, JUST IN CASE.
:-)

    On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 11:59:11 AM EDT, Chris Marx via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
=20
Scott,

 =C2=A0

Means threaded tires for cars before 1972 and slicks for cars after that da=
te.

There are certainly racing series who have their own rules and allow slicks=
 or semis licks for older cars but this are special rules and not the histo=
ric correct FIA rules.

 =C2=A0

Now the problem:

In K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all ha=
d different rules and different tires and brakes and modification regulatio=
ns.

Means it is unfair by design as an old TR2 can=E2=80=99t hold up with a TR6=
 and a TR6 can=E2=80=99t compete with a prepped IMSA GTO TR8.

They=E2=80=99re all different animals on different modification levels and =
the outcome is for a good part predictable.

 =C2=A0

I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get told. I don=E2=80=99t b=
other about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make me happy, nothing else.

I don=E2=80=99t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in rain i=
f necessary.

 =C2=A0

I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered but if they=E2=80=99r=
e slicks, we cut them to make them fitting the rules.

 =C2=A0

Cheers

Chris

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Von: Scott Janzen <[email-masked]>=20
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:54
An: [email-masked]
Cc: Jason Sukey <[email-masked]>; Brian Dolan <[email-masked]>; 'Fr=
iends of Triumph' Triumph <[email-masked]>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

 =C2=A0

tire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I unders=
tand it. =C2=A0 VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) have =
never allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here. =C2=A0However,=
 it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech wit=
h treaded tires, which may end up being raced with other tires - just sayin=
! =C2=A0Tech is basically a safety process, not a rules enforcement - we ar=
e supposed to be self-policing. =C2=A0I think you=E2=80=99re seeing a prett=
y good reaction here because of the late timing of the announcement, and al=
so because many of the Triumph racers at this event run a lot of races with=
 VRG and other east coast clubs that require treaded tires. =C2=A0It really=
 does put the cars on an unequal footing (no pun intended) and all other th=
ings being equal, the car on slicks will be significantly faster. =C2=A0We =
all know ways we could make our cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air d=
ams, programmable ignition - but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.

I for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the event, =
even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the awards. =C2=
=A0I personally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=
=E2=80=99ve lost your bragging rights. =C2=A0

Just my 2 cents.

Scott

 =C2=A0

On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

 =C2=A0

Just a question.

=C2=A0

When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks in =
the K-Cup race.

=C2=A0

Cheers

Chris

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Von:=C2=A0Fot <[email-masked]>=C2=A0Im Auftrag von=C2=A0Jason S=
ukey via Fot
Gesendet:=C2=A0Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49
An:=C2=A0Brian Dolan <[email-masked]>
Cc:=C2=A0Friends of Triumph <[email-masked]>
Betreff:=C2=A0Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

=C2=A0

The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums dur=
ing the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.

Jason

=C2=A0

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while sett=
ing standards for who can podium.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Am I missing something on that angle?=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically=
 requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this eve=
nt. =C2=A0

=C2=A0

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

=EF=BB=BF=C2=A0

Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup th=
is year (39 as of today).=C2=A0 But it would be great to be at 40 or more f=
or the 20th Kastner Cup!=C2=A0

=C2=A0

I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our group=
 that typically run on slick tires.=C2=A0 PVGP has modified the "no slicks"=
 rule for Triumphs.=C2=A0 You can run=C2=A0grooved slick tires=C2=A0in the =
Kastner Cup.=C2=A0 You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, =
but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.=C2=A0 F=
or those that don't have tire options this will certainly help.=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason, pl=
ease consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.=C2=A0=C2=A0After J=
uly 1, the fee goes up to $645, so act now!

2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race=C2=A0(motorsportreg.com)

=C2=A0

Thanks.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Curt Johnston=C2=A0

Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair=C2=A0

707-249-1667=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I'll BRING A CASE OF WD40, J=
UST IN CASE.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">:-)<br></div><div><br></div>
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                    On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 11:59:11 AM EDT, Chris Mar=
x via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890"><div><div class=
=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327=
890MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">Scott,</span></p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv=
9429327890MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydpdc6=
706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m not familiar with the US rules of =
racing.</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">On FIA racing the=
y require period correct tires for vintage racing.</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706=
aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">Means threaded tires for cars before 1972 and sli=
cks for cars after that date.</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNor=
mal">There are certainly racing series who have their own rules and allow s=
licks or semis licks for older cars but this are special rules and not the =
historic correct FIA rules.</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNorma=
l"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">Now the proble=
m:</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">In K-Cup competing car=
s of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all had different rules and =
different tires and brakes and modification regulations.</p><p class=3D"ydp=
dc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">Means it is unfair by design as an old TR2 =
can=E2=80=99t hold up with a TR6 and a TR6 can=E2=80=99t compete with a pre=
pped IMSA GTO TR8.</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">They=
=E2=80=99re all different animals on different modification levels and the =
outcome is for a good part predictable.</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv942932=
7890MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">I=
=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get told. I don=E2=80=99t bo=
ther about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make me happy, nothing else.</p=
><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99t care about =
threads or not. I even drive on slicks in rain if necessary.</p><p class=3D=
"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv94=
29327890MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered bu=
t if they=E2=80=99re slicks, we cut them to make them fitting the rules.</p=
><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">If that not helps, we put W=
D40 on to make them slick.</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal=
"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">Cheers</p><p cl=
ass=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aey=
iv9429327890MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNo=
rmal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=
<div id=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890yqt35692" class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327=
890yqt0461393935"><div><div style=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) curre=
ntcolor currentcolor; border-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medi=
um medium; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNo=
rmal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Scott Janzen &=
lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 27. Juni =
2022 23:54<br clear=3D"none"><b>An:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> Jason Sukey &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Brian Dolan &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt;; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph &lt;[email-masked]=
et&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulat=
ions</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"> =
&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">tire rules are gen=
erally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I understand it. &nbsp; VR=
G (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) have never allowed slic=
ks, so they had to make an exception here. &nbsp;However, it=E2=80=99s not =
enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech with treaded tires, w=
hich may end up being raced with other tires - just sayin! &nbsp;Tech is ba=
sically a safety process, not a rules enforcement - we are supposed to be s=
elf-policing. &nbsp;I think you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty good reaction he=
re because of the late timing of the announcement, and also because many of=
 the Triumph racers at this event run a lot of races with VRG and other eas=
t coast clubs that require treaded tires. &nbsp;It really does put the cars=
 on an unequal footing (no pun intended) and all other things being equal, =
the car on slicks will be significantly faster. &nbsp;We all know ways we c=
ould make our cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable =
ignition - but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.</p></div><div><div id=3D"ydpdc67=
06aeyiv9429327890yqt22163" class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890yqt0461393935">=
<p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">I for one am glad to see oth=
er interesting Triumphs show up for the event, even if SCCA prepared - just=
 factor the tires into who gets the awards. &nbsp;I personally feel that if=
 you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=80=99ve lost your braggi=
ng rights. &nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">Ju=
st my 2 cents.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"=
>Scott</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"> &nbsp;=
</p></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">On Jun 2=
7, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"> &n=
bsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"DE">Just a question.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv942=
9327890MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 an=
d 2019 there were cars on slicks in the K-Cup race.</p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">Has the rule been changed that slick=
s are not allowed anymore?</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv94293278=
90MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNo=
rmal">Cheers</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">C=
hris</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p=
></div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div>=
<div style=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; b=
order-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt=
 0cm 0cm;"><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><b><span lan=
g=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890apple-conver=
ted-space"><span lang=3D"DE">&nbsp;</span></span><span lang=3D"DE">Fot &lt;=
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span class=3D"ydpdc=
6706aeyiv9429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>Im Auftrag von<sp=
an class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b=
>Jason Sukey via Fot<br clear=3D"none"><b>Gesendet:</b><span class=3D"ydpdc=
6706aeyiv9429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Montag, 27. Juni 202=
2 19:49<br clear=3D"none"><b>An:</b><span class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890=
apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Brian Dolan &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">bdolan1=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"ydpdc6706a=
eyiv9429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friends of Triumph &lt;<a=
 shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Betreff:</b><sp=
an class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re:=
 [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations</span></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"=
ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><div><p class=3D"yd=
pdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">The way I read it, treaded slick racers ar=
e still competing for podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-in=
terpreting it.</p></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNo=
rmal">Jason</p></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890M=
soNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv94293278=
90MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &lt;<a sha=
pe=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div></div><blockquote style=
=3D"border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204)=
; border-style: none none none solid; border-width: medium medium medium 1p=
t; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;"><div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">Seems like a reasonable compromise t=
o allow more people to race, while setting standards for who can podium.&nb=
sp;</p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"=
>&nbsp;</p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNor=
mal">Am I missing something on that angle?&nbsp;</p></div></div><div><div><=
p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:=
39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:</p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-color: currentcolor currentco=
lor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-style: none none none solid; bo=
rder-width: medium medium medium 1pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt=
 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;"><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">N=
ot good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically =
requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this even=
t. &nbsp;</p></div><div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpdc67=
06aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9=
429327890MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone</p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
"><br clear=3D"none"></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin=
-bottom:5.0pt;"><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9=
429327890MsoNormal">On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot &lt=
;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p></blockquote></div><bloc=
kquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF<span class=3D"ydpdc6706aey=
iv9429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:sans-serif;color:#333333;">Its good news that we have nearly 40 ca=
rs registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; But it =
would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!<span class=3D"=
ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#333333;">&nbsp;</span><=
/p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#333333;">I wante=
d to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our group that t=
ypically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule f=
or Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run<span class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890apple-=
converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong><u><span style=3D"font-family:sans-se=
rif;">grooved slick tires</span></u></strong><span class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9=
429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>in the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; You =
can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eli=
gible for any awards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that don't hav=
e tire options this will certainly help.&nbsp;<span class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv=
9429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p></div></div><div><=
div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#333333;">&nbsp;</span></p></div></div=
><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#333333;">So if you're on the f=
ence about attending this year for whatever reason, please consider joining=
 a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.&nbsp;<span class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv94=
29327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p></div></div><div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
2.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#333333;">&nbsp;</span></p></div></div><=
div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#333333;">Regular entry fee is $5=
95, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.&nbsp;<span class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327=
890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong><span style=3D"font-family:s=
ans-serif;">After July 1, the fee goes up to $645, so act now!</span></stro=
ng></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890Mso=
Normal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;colo=
r:#333333;"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/=
2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771=
031" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race</a=
></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;col=
or:#333333;"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events=
/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-77=
1031" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv94293=
27890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>(motorsportreg.com)</a></span></p>=
</div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#333333;">&nbsp;</sp=
an></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#333333;">Tha=
nks.<span class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</s=
pan></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#3333=
33;">&nbsp;</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv94293=
27890MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;colo=
r:#333333;">Curt Johnston<span class=3D"ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890apple-conve=
rted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpdc=
6706aeyiv9429327890MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:s=
ans-serif;color:#333333;">Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair<span class=3D"yd=
pdc6706aeyiv9429327890apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p></div>=
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From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 12:29:15 -0400

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Bob, no need for extra oil, remember, this is a field full of British
engined cars. Bring a case of kitty litter instead.

Mike H

FYI, for reference, these are the tire rules for our series, The Historic
Racing Group. We'll allow slicks on a pre approved basis but the car is put
in a group that can't get any points or wins, they're just on track to play
with the other cars.

April 20, 2018 - Tire Rule Update
 HRG will retain our traditional rule, any DOT approved tire. This includes
DOT approved competition tires like Hoosier R7s and Toyo Proxes. In
addition, we will allow any treaded racing tire designated as Vintage or
Historic by the manufacturer.

 Slick tires will only be allowed on a pre approved basis for visiting
drivers who wish to try our series. All cars with unapproved tires will be
put in Race Group 6 which does not award season points.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 12:11 PM Robert Lang via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 11:59:11 AM EDT, Chris Marx via Fot <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Scott,
>
>
>
> Means threaded tires for cars before 1972 and slicks for cars after that
> date.
>
> There are certainly racing series who have their own rules and allow
> slicks or semis licks for older cars but this are special rules and not t=
he
> historic correct FIA rules.
>
>
>
> Now the problem:
>
> In K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all
> had different rules and different tires and brakes and modification
> regulations.
>
> Means it is unfair by design as an old TR2 can=E2=80=99t hold up with a T=
R6 and a
> TR6 can=E2=80=99t compete with a prepped IMSA GTO TR8.
>
> They=E2=80=99re all different animals on different modification levels an=
d the
> outcome is for a good part predictable.
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get told. I don=E2=80=99t=
 bother about
> tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make me happy, nothing else.
>
> I don=E2=80=99t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in rain=
 if
> necessary.
>
>
>
> I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered but if they=E2=80=
=99re slicks, we
> cut them to make them fitting the rules.
>
> *Von:* Scott Janzen <[email-masked]>
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:54
> *An:* [email-masked]
> *Cc:* Jason Sukey <[email-masked]>; Brian Dolan <[email-masked]>;
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
>
>
>
> tire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I
> understand it.   VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) ha=
ve
> never allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here.  However, it=
=E2=80=99s
> not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech with treaded
> tires, which may end up being raced with other tires - just sayin!  Tech =
is
> basically a safety process, not a rules enforcement - we are supposed to =
be
> self-policing.  I think you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty good reaction here=
 because
> of the late timing of the announcement, and also because many of the
> Triumph racers at this event run a lot of races with VRG and other east
> coast clubs that require treaded tires.  It really does put the cars on a=
n
> unequal footing (no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the c=
ar
> on slicks will be significantly faster.  We all know ways we could make o=
ur
> cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - b=
ut
> that=E2=80=99s not vintage.
>
> I for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the event=
,
> even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the awards.  =
I
> personally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=
=80=99ve
> lost your bragging rights.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks i=
n
> *Von:* Fot <[email-masked]> *Im Auftrag von *Jason Sukey via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49
> *An:* Brian Dolan <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Friends of Triumph <[email-masked]>
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
>
>
>
or
r
s"
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> the fee goes up to $645, so act now!*
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob, no need for extra oil, remember, this is a field full=
 of British engined cars. Bring a case of kitty litter instead.<div><br></d=
iv><div>Mike H</div><div><br></div><div>FYI, for reference, these are the t=
ire rules for our series, The Historic Racing=C2=A0Group. We&#39;ll allow s=
licks on a pre approved basis but the car is put in a group that can&#39;t =
get any points or wins, they&#39;re just on track to play with the other ca=
rs.</div><div><br></div><div><h2 align=3D"center" style=3D"margin:0px;paddi=
ng:0px;line-height:1.4em;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Georgia,&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;,Times,serif"><span style=3D"font-weight:normal"><font size=
=3D"4">April 20, 2018 - Tire Rule Update<br style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px=
"></font></span></h2><h3 align=3D"center" style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;l=
ine-height:1.4em;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Georgia,&quot;Times New Roman=
&quot;,Times,serif"><span style=3D"font-weight:normal"><font size=3D"4">=C2=
=A0HRG will retain our traditional rule, any DOT approved tire. This includ=
es DOT approved competition tires like Hoosier R7s and Toyo Proxes. In addi=
tion, we will allow any treaded racing tire designated as Vintage or Histor=
ic by the manufacturer.<br style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px"></font></span><=
/h3><h3 align=3D"center" style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;line-height:1.4em;=
color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Georgia,&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,Times,seri=
f"><span style=3D"font-weight:normal"><font size=3D"4"><br style=3D"margin:=
0px;padding:0px"></font></span></h3><h3 align=3D"center" style=3D"margin:0p=
x;padding:0px;line-height:1.4em;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Georgia,&quot;=
Times New Roman&quot;,Times,serif"><span style=3D"font-weight:normal"><font=
 size=3D"4">=C2=A0Slick tires will only be allowed on a pre approved basis =
for visiting drivers who wish to try our series. All cars with unapproved t=
ires will be put in Race Group 6 which does not award season points.</font>=
</span></h3></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 12:11 PM Robert Lang via Fot &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size=
:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ll BRING A CASE OF WD40, JUST IN CASE.</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">:-)<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1935245416275873473ydpdc6706aeyahoo_quoted=
_6435630483">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 11:59:11 AM EDT, Chris Mar=
x via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1935245416275873473ydpdc6706aeyiv94=
29327890"><div><div><p><span lang=3D"DE">Scott,</span></p><p><span lang=3D"=
DE"> =C2=A0</span></p><p>I=E2=80=99m not familiar with the US rules of raci=
ng.</p><p>On FIA racing they require period correct tires for vintage racin=
g.</p><p>Means threaded tires for cars before 1972 and slicks for cars afte=
r that date.</p><p>There are certainly racing series who have their own rul=
es and allow slicks or semis licks for older cars but this are special rule=
s and not the historic correct FIA rules.</p><p> =C2=A0</p><p>Now the probl=
em:</p><p>In K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and t=
hey all had different rules and different tires and brakes and modification=
 regulations.</p><p>Means it is unfair by design as an old TR2 can=E2=80=99=
t hold up with a TR6 and a TR6 can=E2=80=99t compete with a prepped IMSA GT=
O TR8.</p><p>They=E2=80=99re all different animals on different modificatio=
n levels and the outcome is for a good part predictable.</p><p> =C2=A0</p><=
p>I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get told. I don=E2=80=99t=
 bother about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make me happy, nothing else.=
</p><p>I don=E2=80=99t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in=
 rain if necessary.</p><p> =C2=A0</p><p>I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires a=
re already ordered but if they=E2=80=99re slicks, we cut them to make them =
fitting the rules.</p><p>If that not helps, we put WD40 on to make them sli=
ck.</p><p> =C2=A0</p><p>Cheers</p><p>Chris</p><p> =C2=A0</p><p> =C2=A0</p><=
p> =C2=A0</p><div id=3D"gmail-m_1935245416275873473ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890=
yqt35692"><div><div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor cur=
rentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;paddi=
ng:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> S=
cott Janzen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">sjanzen=
@me.com</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 27. Juni 2022 2=
3:54<br clear=3D"none"><b>An:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:<=
/b> Jason Sukey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">j=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Brian Dolan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bdolan1776@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; &#39;Friends of Trium=
ph&#39; Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kas=
tner Cup Tire Regulations</span></p></div></div><p> =C2=A0</p><p>tire rules=
 are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I understand it. =
=C2=A0 VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) have never all=
owed slicks, so they had to make an exception here.=C2=A0 However, it=E2=80=
=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech with treaded=
 tires, which may end up being raced with other tires - just sayin!=C2=A0 T=
ech is basically a safety process, not a rules enforcement - we are suppose=
d to be self-policing.=C2=A0 I think you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty good re=
action here because of the late timing of the announcement, and also becaus=
e many of the Triumph racers at this event run a lot of races with VRG and =
other east coast clubs that require treaded tires.=C2=A0 It really does put=
 the cars on an unequal footing (no pun intended) and all other things bein=
g equal, the car on slicks will be significantly faster.=C2=A0 We all know =
ways we could make our cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, prog=
rammable ignition - but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.</p></div><div><div id=
=3D"gmail-m_1935245416275873473ydpdc6706aeyiv9429327890yqt22163"><p>I for o=
ne am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the event, even if=
 SCCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the awards.=C2=A0 I pe=
rsonally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=80=
=99ve lost your bragging rights. =C2=A0</p><div><p>Just my 2 cents.</p></di=
v><div><p>Scott</p></div><div><p> =C2=A0</p></div><div><div><p>On Jun 27, 2=
022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fo=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:</p></div><p> =C2=A0</p><div><div><p><span lang=3D"DE">Just a qu=
estion.</span></p></div><div><p><span lang=3D"DE">=C2=A0</span></p></div><d=
iv><p>When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slic=
ks in the K-Cup race.</p></div><div><p>Has the rule been changed that slick=
s are not allowed anymore?</p></div><div><p>=C2=A0</p></div><div><p>Cheers<=
/p></div><div><p>Chris</p></div><div><p>=C2=A0</p></div><div><p>=C2=A0</p><=
/div><div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;=
border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0cm=
 0cm"><div><p><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span><span lang=3D"DE">=
=C2=A0</span></span><span lang=3D"DE">Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot-boun=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span>=C2=A0</span><b>Im Auftrag von<span>=C2=A0<=
/span></b>Jason Sukey via Fot<br clear=3D"none"><b>Gesendet:</b><span>=C2=
=A0</span>Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49<br clear=3D"none"><b>An:</b><span>=C2=
=A0</span>Brian Dolan &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:bdolan1776@gmail=
.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Friends of Triumph &lt;<a shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Betreff:</b><span>=C2=
=A0</span>Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations</span></p></div></div><div=
><p>=C2=A0</p></div><div><div><p>The way I read it, treaded slick racers ar=
e still competing for podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-in=
terpreting it.</p></div><div><div><p>Jason</p></div></div></div><div><p>=C2=
=A0</p></div><div><div><div><p>On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan =
via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div></div><=
blockquote style=3D"border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb=
(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium =
medium 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><p>S=
eems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while setti=
ng standards for who can podium.=C2=A0</p></div></div><div><div><p>=C2=A0</=
p></div></div><div><div><p>Am I missing something on that angle?=C2=A0</p><=
/div></div><div><div><p>=C2=A0</p></div><div><div><div><p>On Mon, Jun 27, 2=
022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fo=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:</p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-color:currentcolor c=
urrentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid=
;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0=
cm 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><p>Not good news for those of us who consistently r=
un vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to bu=
y a set of R7s for this event. =C2=A0</p></div><div><p style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12pt">=C2=A0</p><div><div><p>Sent from my iPhone</p></div></div><div><di=
v><p><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></p></div><bl=
ockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12pt">On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p></blockquote></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><p>=EF=BB=BF<span>=C2=A0=
</span></p></div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:san=
s-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars regi=
stered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of today).=C2=A0 But it would b=
e great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!<span>=C2=A0</span></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=C2=A0</span></p></div></div><div><div><p><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">I =
wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our group t=
hat typically run on slick tires.=C2=A0 PVGP has modified the &quot;no slic=
ks&quot; rule for Triumphs.=C2=A0 You can run<span>=C2=A0</span><strong><u>=
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">grooved slick tires</span></u></stro=
ng><span>=C2=A0</span>in the Kastner Cup.=C2=A0 You can also run these tire=
s in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible for any awards fo=
r podium recognition.=C2=A0 For those that don&#39;t have tire options this=
 will certainly help.=C2=A0<span>=C2=A0</span></span></p></div></div><div><=
div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51=
,51)">=C2=A0</span></p></div></div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12=
pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">So if you&#39;re on the fenc=
e about attending this year for whatever reason, please consider joining a =
huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.=C2=A0<span>=C2=A0</span></span></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(51,51,51)">=C2=A0</span></p></div></div><div><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Regular entr=
y fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.=C2=A0<span>=C2=A0</span><stron=
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Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 12:03:29 -0700

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At the four K Cups I have attended, and raced at, you could run your car as=
 eligible in your home club.  When I was K Cup Race Chair in 2019 at Button=
willow  VARA made it clear from the start that if your car was legal in you=
r club (tires and all) you would be allowed to run with us no questions ask=
ed.  VARA even extended that to our run groups and if you won, you won, no =
exclusions for tires.  This sounds like a sensible way to race the K Cup an=
d it will not have an impact on who takes home the K Cup this year, tires a=
nd finishing place position have never dictated the winner.

Ken

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Chris Marx via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 8:59 AM
To: 'Scott Janzen'; [email-masked]
Cc: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

Scott,

Now the problem:

Cheers
Chris

Just a question.
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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>At th=
e four K Cups I have attended, and raced at, you could run your car as elig=
ible in your home club.=C2=A0 When I was K Cup Race Chair in 2019 at Button=
willow =C2=A0VARA made it clear from the start that if your car was legal i=
n your club (tires and all) you would be allowed to run with us no question=
s asked.=C2=A0 VARA even extended that to our run groups and if you won, yo=
u won, no exclusions for tires.=C2=A0 This sounds like a sensible way to ra=
ce the K Cup and it will not have an impact on who takes home the K Cup thi=
s year, tires and finishing place position have never dictated the winner.<=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ken</p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a h=
ref=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windo=
ws</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:p=
ara-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in=
 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: <=
/b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Chris Marx via Fot</a><br><b>Sent:=
 </b>Tuesday, June 28, 2022 8:59 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:sjanzen=
@me.com">'Scott Janzen'</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tr=
[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et">''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Kastner=
 Cup Tire Regulations</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE>Scott,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=
=E2=80=99m not familiar with the US rules of racing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>On FIA racing they require period correct tires for vintage ra=
cing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Means threaded tires for cars befo=
re 1972 and slicks for cars after that date.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>There are certainly racing series who have their own rules and allow s=
licks or semis licks for older cars but this are special rules and not the =
historic correct FIA rules.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Now the problem:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal>In K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they=
 all had different rules and different tires and brakes and modification re=
gulations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Means it is unfair by design =
as an old TR2 can=E2=80=99t hold up with a TR6 and a TR6 can=E2=80=99t comp=
ete with a prepped IMSA GTO TR8.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>They=E2=
=80=99re all different animals on different modification levels and the out=
come is for a good part predictable.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and=
 run what I get told. I don=E2=80=99t bother about tires. It just needs 4 w=
heels to make me happy, nothing else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
don=E2=80=99t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in rain if =
necessary.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered but if t=
hey=E2=80=99re slicks, we cut them to make them fitting the rules.<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If that not helps, we put WD40 on to make them s=
lick.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:non=
e;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span lang=3DDE> Scott Janzen &lt;s=
[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:54<br><b>An=
:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> Jason Sukey &lt;[email-masked]=
om&gt;; Brian Dolan &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 'Friends of Triumph' Triu=
mph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tir=
e Regulations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>tire rules are generally per the sponsor=
ing club for the event, as I understand it. &nbsp; VRG (and PVGP, who I bel=
ieve uses the VRG tire rules) have never allowed slicks, so they had to mak=
e an exception here. &nbsp;However, it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have=
 been seen that go through tech with treaded tires, which may end up being =
raced with other tires - just sayin! &nbsp;Tech is basically a safety proce=
ss, not a rules enforcement - we are supposed to be self-policing. &nbsp;I =
think you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty good reaction here because of the late=
 timing of the announcement, and also because many of the Triumph racers at=
 this event run a lot of races with VRG and other east coast clubs that req=
uire treaded tires. &nbsp;It really does put the cars on an unequal footing=
 (no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the car on slicks will=
 be significantly faster. &nbsp;We all know ways we could make our cars fas=
ter - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - but that=E2=
=80=99s not vintage.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I for one am g=
lad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the event, even if SCCA p=
repared - just factor the tires into who gets the awards. &nbsp;I personall=
y feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=80=99ve lo=
st your bragging rights. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jus=
t my 2 cents.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Scott<o:p></o:p=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></=
o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE>Just a question.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal>When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 ther=
e were cars on slicks in the K-Cup race.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed anymore?=
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al>Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style=3D'b=
order:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span class=3Dapple-c=
onverted-space><span lang=3DDE>&nbsp;</span></span><span lang=3DDE>Fot &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>Im Auftrag von<spa=
n class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>Jason Sukey via Fot<br><b>=
Gesendet:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Montag, 27. J=
uni 2022 19:49<br><b>An:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</spa=
n>Brian Dolan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bdolan1776@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>F=
riends of Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</s=
pan>Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal>The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for p=
odiums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.<o:p></o:=
p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jason<o:p></o:p></p></div></div>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:=
p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;=
margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-left:4.8pt'>Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more peo=
ple to race, while setting standards for who can podium.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:4.8pt'>&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'marg=
in-left:4.8pt'>Am I missing something on that angle?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></=
div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:4.8pt'>&nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-le=
ft:4.8pt'>On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-l=
eft:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-=
top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'margin-left:9.6pt'>Not good news for those of us who consisten=
tly run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and are not going =
to buy a set of R7s for this event. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-botto=
m:12.0pt;margin-left:9.6pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'margin-left:9.6pt'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-r=
ight:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:9.6pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMs=
oNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0=
pt;margin-left:45.6pt'>On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D'ma=
rgin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'margin-left:45.6pt'>=EF=BB=BF<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-lef=
t:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-seri=
f;color:#333333'>Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for t=
he Kastner Cup this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; But it would be great to b=
e at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!<span class=3Dapple-converted-spac=
e>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>=
</div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>I =
wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our group t=
hat typically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the &quot;no slic=
ks&quot; rule for Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run<span class=3Dapple-converted-=
space>&nbsp;</span><strong><u><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-s=
erif'>grooved slick tires</span></u></strong><span class=3Dapple-converted-=
space>&nbsp;</span>in the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; You can also run these tires i=
n the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible for any awards for p=
odium recognition.&nbsp; For those that don't have tire options this will c=
ertainly help.&nbsp;<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span=
><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-=
left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-s=
erif;color:#333333'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>So if you're on the fen=
ce about attending this year for whatever reason, please consider joining a=
 huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.&nbsp;<span class=3Dapple-converted-spa=
ce>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div=
></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>R=
egular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.&nbsp;<span class=3D=
apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Helv=
etica",sans-serif'>After July 1, the fee goes up to $645, so act now!</span=
></strong></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><strong><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'><a href=3D"https://www.motorspo=
rtreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-=
compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_blank">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race</a=
></span></strong><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sa=
ns-serif;color:#333333'><a href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/202=
2-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031=
" target=3D"_blank"><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>(motor=
sportreg.com)</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>=
Thanks.<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p><=
/p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'>=
<span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#3=
33333'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Curt Johnston<span class=3Dapple-con=
verted-space>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Kastner Cup Race Commit=
tee Chair<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt=
'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:=
#333333'><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">cur=
[email-masked]</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
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