Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Important - News on sponsoring new members

From: Harvey Kinnard via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 07:03:01 -0500

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Present, and still racing.=20
Harvey Kinnard
Red TR4 #111

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2022, at 10:00 PM, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
>  And for the record, we are
> calling this a "guideline", not a rule!
>=20
>=20
> On Monday, May 2, 2022, 10:20:47 p.m. EDT, yellow04 via Fot <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:
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> Apparently, old habits die really hard...
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> --- begin forwarded message
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> Sent May 29, 2021 by [email-masked]
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> We are winding up the cleanup of the inactive email addresses, and the
> tally is impressive. Look for the final numbers soon. As we worked
> through the process, we gave a lot of thought on how to keep better
> track of the membership. We realized we need to do an annual roll call
> and clarify the process we use to add new members.
>=20
> While the "we don=E2=80=99t have any rules" thing has worked well for 25 y=
ears,
> we are tweaking the process we use to add members. This is pretty much
> how our self-policing group has been doing it, we just never put words
> to the process because we didn=E2=80=99t need to.  And for the record, we a=
re
> calling this a "guideline", not a rule!
>=20
> As opposed to the nomination process we have been using, we will use a
> "sponsorship" process going forward.
>=20
> First, we have the designations. All FOT members now fall into one of
> two categories. Drivers or Crew. Drivers are active and former drivers
> who turn (or have turned) the steering wheel in sanctioned competition
> in a Triumph or Triumph powered race car. Anyone not falling into that
> category will now be referred to as Crew.
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> Only Drivers can sponsor new members. If the new member is an active or
> former driver, it's a done deal, we have a new FOT member. No seconds
> needed, we are counting on our existing Driver members to vet the new
> folks they sponsor. If a Driver wants to sponsor someone who is not
> another driver, i.e. become part of the FOT Crew, or someone who is
> actively on the path to becoming a driver in a Triumph they should
> submit that request to our membership committee through me.
>=20
> We think this clarification makes sense to keep our membership on point
> and strong. The FOT is proudly keeping Triumphs on track and relevant!
>=20
> Henry Frye
> [email-masked]
> keeper of the website and membership roster
> _______________________________________________
> [email-masked]
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> http://www.fot-racing.com
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Present, and still racing.&nbsp;<div>Harvey=
 Kinnard</div><div>Red TR4 #111<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 2, 2022, at 10:00=
 PM, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></block=
quote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D=
"ydpb8b7b7d7yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica=
, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Hel=
vetica, Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;And for the record, we are<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-seri=
f;">calling this a "guideline", not a rule!</div></div><br></div><div><br></=
div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydpa288322cyahoo_quoted_1918009709" class=3D"ydpa28=
8322cyahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                    On Monday, May 2, 2022, 10:20:47 p.m. EDT, yellow04 via =
Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Apparently, old habits die really hard=
...<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">--- begin forwarded=
 message<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent May 29, 2=
021 by <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">We are winding up the cleanup of the inactive email addresses, and=
 the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">tally is impressive. Look for the final numbe=
rs soon. As we worked<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">through the process, we gave=
 a lot of thought on how to keep better<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">track of t=
he membership. We realized we need to do an annual roll call<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">and clarify the process we use to add new members.<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">While the "we don=E2=80=99t have any r=
ules" thing has worked well for 25 years,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">we are t=
weaking the process we use to add members. This is pretty much<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">how our self-policing group has been doing it, we just never pu=
t words<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to the process because we didn=E2=80=99t n=
eed to.&nbsp; And for the record, we are<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">calling t=
his a "guideline", not a rule!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">As opposed to the nomination process we have been using, we will use a=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">"sponsorship" process going forward.<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">First, we have the designations. Al=
l FOT members now fall into one of<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">two categories.=
 Drivers or Crew. Drivers are active and former drivers<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">who turn (or have turned) the steering wheel in sanctioned competition=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">in a Triumph or Triumph powered race car. Anyone n=
ot falling into that<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">category will now be referred=
 to as Crew.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Only Drive=
rs can sponsor new members. If the new member is an active or<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">former driver, it's a done deal, we have a new FOT member. No sec=
onds<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">needed, we are counting on our existing Drive=
r members to vet the new<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">folks they sponsor. If a D=
river wants to sponsor someone who is not<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">another d=
river, i.e. become part of the FOT Crew, or someone who is<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">actively on the path to becoming a driver in a Triumph they should<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">submit that request to our membership committee th=
rough me.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">We think this=
 clarification makes sense to keep our membership on point<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">and strong. The FOT is proudly keeping Triumphs on track and releva=
nt!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Henry Frye<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">keeper o=
f the website and membership roster<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">______________=
_________________________________<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
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From: Ken Suhre via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 13:06:10 +0000 (UTC)

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 Present, retired from racing the former Don Brick TR 4. First race in my l=
ife October 24, 1959 with my 1956 TR 3.=C2=A0
Ken Suhre1959 TR 3A road tourer
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022, 07:03:45 AM CDT, Harvey Kinnard via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 Present, and still racing.=C2=A0Harvey KinnardRed TR4 #111

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2022, at 10:00 PM, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

=EF=BB=BF =C2=A0And for the record, we are
calling this a "guideline", not a rule!

    On Monday, May 2, 2022, 10:20:47 p.m. EDT, yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.=
team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Apparently, old habits die really hard...

While the "we don=E2=80=99t have any rules" thing has worked well for 25 ye=
ars,
we are tweaking the process we use to add members. This is pretty much
how our self-policing group has been doing it, we just never put words
to the process because we didn=E2=80=99t need to.=C2=A0 And for the record,=
 we are
calling this a "guideline", not a rule!

Henry Frye
[email-masked]

gers.com

@gmail.com

yahoo.com

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp423d2daayahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-size: 13px; font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;"=
><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;"></div=
>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" style=3D""><font face=3D"ver=
dana, helvetica, sans-serif">Present, retired from racing the former Don Br=
ick TR 4. First race in my life October 24, 1959 with my 1956 TR 3.&nbsp;</=
font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" style=3D""><font face=3D"=
verdana, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false" style=3D""><font face=3D"verdana, helvetica, sans-serif">Ken S=
uhre</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" style=3D""><font fa=
ce=3D"verdana, helvetica, sans-serif">1959 TR 3A road tourer</font></div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;"><br></di=
v>
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e3ecbdyahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022, 07:03:45 AM CDT, Harvey Kinnar=
d via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp69e3ecbdyiv0217676208"><div>Present, and=
 still racing.&nbsp;<div>Harvey Kinnard</div><div>Red TR4 #111<br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ydp69e3ecbdyiv0217676208yqtfd74920" class=3D"ydp69e3ecb=
dyiv0217676208yqt1851233467"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">O=
n May 2, 2022, at 10:00 PM, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ydp69e3ecbdyiv0217676208=
yqtfd85344" class=3D"ydp69e3ecbdyiv0217676208yqt1851233467">=EF=BB=BF<div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:=
13px;" class=3D"ydp69e3ecbdyiv0217676208ydpb8b7b7d7yahoo-style-wrap"><div><=
/div>
        <div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Hel=
vetica, Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;And for the record, we are<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
Arial, sans-serif;">calling this a "guideline", not a rule!</div></div><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydp69e3ecbdyiv0217676208ydpa288322cyahoo_quoted_19=
18009709" class=3D"ydp69e3ecbdyiv0217676208ydpa288322cyahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Monday, May 2, 2022, 10:20:47 p.m. EDT, yellow04 via=
 Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Apparently, old habits die really har=
d...<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">--- begin forwarded message<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent May 29, 2021 by <a =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">We are winding up the cleanu=
p of the inactive email addresses, and the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">tally is impressive. Look for the final numbers soon. As we worked=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">through the process, we gave a lo=
t of thought on how to keep better<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>track of the membership. We realized we need to do an annual roll call<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and clarify the process we use to add=
 new members.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">While the "we don=E2=80=99t have any rules" thing has=
 worked well for 25 years,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">we are =
tweaking the process we use to add members. This is pretty much<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">how our self-policing group has been doing it=
, we just never put words<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to the p=
rocess because we didn=E2=80=99t need to.&nbsp; And for the record, we are<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">calling this a "guideline", not a =
rule!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">As opposed to the nomination process we have been using, we w=
ill use a<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">"sponsorship" process go=
ing forward.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">First, we have the designations. All FOT members now f=
all into one of<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">two categories. Dr=
ivers or Crew. Drivers are active and former drivers<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">who turn (or have turned) the steering wheel in sanction=
ed competition<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">in a Triumph or Tri=
umph powered race car. Anyone not falling into that<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">category will now be referred to as Crew.<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Only Dr=
ivers can sponsor new members. If the new member is an active or<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">former driver, it's a done deal, we have a=
 new FOT member. No seconds<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">needed=
, we are counting on our existing Driver members to vet the new<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">folks they sponsor. If a Driver wants to spon=
sor someone who is not<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">another dri=
ver, i.e. become part of the FOT Crew, or someone who is<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">actively on the path to becoming a driver in a Trium=
ph they should<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">submit that request=
 to our membership committee through me.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">We think this clarificat=
ion makes sense to keep our membership on point<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">and strong. The FOT is proudly keeping Triumphs on track and =
relevant!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Henry Frye<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a sh=
ape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">keeper of the website and membership roster<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"n=
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