Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminium radiators

From: Dave Hogye via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:18:27 -0800

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I have been using a Griffin aluminum radiator for over 8 years now.  Also, n=
icely made and good fit in my TR3.  I ordered it with a shroud and puller fa=
n. $700 total.  Radiator only, $500.=20
They will build custom. I ordered mine without the problematic or crack pron=
e factory style extended filler neck. I fill it from an expansion tank.=20
Dave H.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>=20
> =EF=BB=BFFOT,
>=20
> We have good experiences with Wizard as well. They have been reliable and t=
he quality is very good.  As some people feel that oil coolers are a consuma=
ble a item, our research indicates the same may be true for aluminum radiato=
rs in cars with cast iron blocks. There are things that can be done to help t=
hem live for years. However, they eventually need to be replaced due to the r=
elationship of cast iron, aluminum, water and electrical current.=20
>=20
> Also, I would say NEVER run any type of coolant stop leak product with an a=
luminum radiator, especially with an iron block. You will plug the radiator v=
ery-very quickly.  Not to mention the mess the stops leaks product makes whe=
re your block and head ports are supposed to be able to move coolant.  If yo=
u are swapping fluids, find the leak and fix it correctly.=20
>=20
> I am on year 5 with the last wizard that I purchased and it is still doing=
 good.=20
>=20
> Paul Ricco
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
>>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFI got a custom radiator for the GT6 from Wizard a few months ago=
, and it is really beautiful craftsmanship.  I had them duplicate the dimens=
ions of one I got twelve years ago from an outfit that went out of business.=
  They copied it perfectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe less if you are=
 getting off-the-shelf.
>>=20
>> I will say that I=E2=80=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - they=
 can be welded or sealed depending on where the damage is.  The last time I d=
id some serious damage to it, so it was truly irreparable.
>>=20
>> Much, much lighter than stock, too.
>>=20
>> Scott
>>=20
>> On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>> There are a bunch of answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from W=
izard Radiator (www.wizardcooling.com)
>>=20
>> There's a guy on the Triumphs list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards at=
 a discount.
>>=20
>> My one concern about aluminium radiators is that most of the time you can=
't fix them, so if you crack them, it's in the bin for 'em. Copper / brass i=
s more forgiving. Ally does have the "wow" factor, though.
>>=20
>> c ya,
>> rml
>>=20
>> On Monday, January 3, 2022, 03:55:59 PM EST, robert bownes via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Wise(ned) ones,
>>=20
>> Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got the orig=
inal TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate of ~$360 to r=
e-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns the squirrels ha=
ve thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's probably cheaper to get a n=
ew Al one than press my luck with the original.=20
>>=20
>> I found 3 row versions for a bit under $200, but they don't seem to know m=
uch about Triumphs (the pictures have the inlet/outlet pointing in the wrong=
 directions) so I figured I'd check here...
>>=20
>> Stay fast!
>> Bob
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I have been using a Griffin aluminum radiat=
or for over 8 years now. &nbsp;Also, nicely made and good fit in my TR3. &nb=
sp;I ordered it with a shroud and puller fan. $700 total. &nbsp;Radiator onl=
y, $500.&nbsp;<div>They will build custom. I ordered mine without the proble=
matic or crack prone factory style extended filler neck. I fill it from an e=
xpansion tank.&nbsp;<br><div>Dave H.</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent=
 from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 3=
, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>=
<br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<=
meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">FOT,=
<div><br></div><div>We have good experiences with Wizard as well. They have b=
een reliable and the quality is very good. &nbsp;As some people feel that oi=
l coolers are a consumable a item, our research indicates the same may be tr=
ue for aluminum radiators in cars with cast iron blocks. There are things th=
at can be done to help them live for years. However, they eventually need to=
 be replaced due to the relationship of cast iron, aluminum, water and elect=
rical current.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Also, I would say NEVER run any type=
 of coolant stop leak product with an aluminum radiator, especially with an i=
ron block. You will plug the radiator very-very quickly. &nbsp;Not to mentio=
n the mess the stops leaks product makes where your block and head ports are=
 supposed to be able to move coolant. &nbsp;If you are swapping fluids, find=
 the leak and fix it correctly.&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div>I am on year 5 w=
ith the last wizard that I purchased and it is still doing good.&nbsp;</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Paul Ricco<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 P=
M, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=
=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">I got a custom radi=
ator for the GT6 from Wizard a few months ago, and it is really beautiful cr=
aftsmanship. &nbsp;I had them duplicate the dimensions of one I got twelve y=
ears ago from an outfit that went out of business. &nbsp;They copied it perf=
ectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe less if you are getting off-the-shel=
f.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I will say that I=E2=80=
=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - they can be welded or sealed d=
epending on where the damage is. &nbsp;The last time I did some serious dama=
ge to it, so it was truly irreparable.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><=
/div><div class=3D"">Much, much lighter than stock, too.</div><div class=3D"=
"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Scott<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><=
div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang v=
ia Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D=
""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"ydp55b5b3c5yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-=
family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div cl=
ass=3D""></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">There are a bunch o=
f answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from Wizard Radiator (<a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.wizardcooling.com" class=3D"">www.wizardcooling.com</a>)</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">There's a guy on the Triumph=
s list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards at a discount.</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">My one concern about aluminium radiators is t=
hat most of the time you can't fix them, so if you crack them, it's in the b=
in for 'em. Copper / brass is more forgiving. Ally does have the "wow" facto=
r, though.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">c ya,</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">rml<br class=3D""></div><div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
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ss=3D"">Wise(ned) ones,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=
=3D"">Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got the o=
riginal TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate of ~$360 t=
o re-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns the squirrels=
 have thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's probably cheaper to get=
 a new Al one than press my luck with the original. <br class=3D""></div><di=
v class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I found 3 row versions for=
 a bit under $200, but they don't seem to know much about Triumphs (the pict=
ures have the inlet/outlet pointing in the wrong directions) so I figured I'=
d check here...</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">St=
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From: Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 13:57:04 +0100

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Amici, just a question, doesn=E2=80=99t copper dissipate heat better =
than aluminum ?

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Alex Camoletti=20

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De : Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] De la part de John H. Hasty =
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=C3=80 : Dave Hogye
Cc : robert bownes; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet : Re: [Fot] Aluminium radiators

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We get ours custom made without filler neck ... side hoses... etc from =
Howe... $ 350 +\-

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On Jan 3, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Dave Hogye via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

=EF=BB=BF I have been using a Griffin aluminum radiator for over 8 years =
now.  Also, nicely made and good fit in my TR3.  I ordered it with a =
shroud and puller fan. $700 total.  Radiator only, $500. =20

They will build custom. I ordered mine without the problematic or crack =
prone factory style extended filler neck. I fill it from an expansion =
tank.=20

Dave H.

=20

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

=EF=BB=BFFOT,=20

=20

We have good experiences with Wizard as well. They have been reliable =
and the quality is very good.  As some people feel that oil coolers are =
a consumable a item, our research indicates the same may be true for =
aluminum radiators in cars with cast iron blocks. There are things that =
can be done to help them live for years. However, they eventually need =
to be replaced due to the relationship of cast iron, aluminum, water and =
electrical current. =20

=20

Also, I would say NEVER run any type of coolant stop leak product with =
an aluminum radiator, especially with an iron block. You will plug the =
radiator very-very quickly.  Not to mention the mess the stops leaks =
product makes where your block and head ports are supposed to be able to =
move coolant.  If you are swapping fluids, find the leak and fix it =
correctly.=20

=20

I am on year 5 with the last wizard that I purchased and it is still =
doing good.=20

=20

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

=EF=BB=BFI got a custom radiator for the GT6 from Wizard a few months =
ago, and it is really beautiful craftsmanship.  I had them duplicate the =
dimensions of one I got twelve years ago from an outfit that went out of =
business.  They copied it perfectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe =
less if you are getting off-the-shelf.=20

=20

I will say that I=E2=80=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - =
they can be welded or sealed depending on where the damage is.  The last =
time I did some serious damage to it, so it was truly irreparable.

=20

=20

Scott

=20

On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

=20

There are a bunch of answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from =
Wizard Radiator (www.wizardcooling.com)

=20

There's a guy on the Triumphs list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards =
at a discount.

=20

My one concern about aluminium radiators is that most of the time you =
can't fix them, so if you crack them, it's in the bin for 'em. Copper / =
brass is more forgiving. Ally does have the "wow" factor, though.

=20

c ya,

rml

=20

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<[email-masked]> wrote:=20

=20

=20

=20

Wise(ned) ones,

=20

Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got the =
original TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate of =
~$360 to re-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns =
the squirrels have thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's =
probably cheaper to get a new Al one than press my luck with the =
original.=20

=20

I found 3 row versions for a bit under $200, but they don't seem to know =
much about Triumphs (the pictures have the inlet/outlet pointing in the =
wrong directions) so I figured I'd check here...

=20

Stay fast!

Bob

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style=3D'font-size:12.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>Amici, just a =
question, doesn=E2=80=99t copper dissipate heat better than aluminum =
?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>Alex Camoletti =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DFR =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De&nbsp;:</s=
pan></b><span lang=3DFR =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fot =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>De la part de</b> John H. Hasty =
via Fot<br><b>Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;:</b> mardi 4 janvier 2022 =
02:12<br><b>=C3=80&nbsp;:</b> Dave Hogye<br><b>Cc&nbsp;:</b> robert =
bownes; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph<br><b>Objet&nbsp;:</b> Re: [Fot] =
Aluminium radiators<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>We get ours custom made without filler =
neck ... side hoses... etc from Howe... $ 350 +\-<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 3, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Dave Hogye =
via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF I have been using a Griffin aluminum =
radiator for over 8 years now. &nbsp;Also, nicely made and good fit in =
my TR3. &nbsp;I ordered it with a shroud and puller fan. $700 total. =
&nbsp;Radiator only, $500.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>They will build custom. I ordered mine without the =
problematic or crack prone factory style extended filler neck. I fill it =
from an expansion tank.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dave H.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 3, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Paul Ricco =
via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BFFOT, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We have good experiences with Wizard as well. They =
have been reliable and the quality is very good. &nbsp;As some people =
feel that oil coolers are a consumable a item, our research indicates =
the same may be true for aluminum radiators in cars with cast iron =
blocks. There are things that can be done to help them live for years. =
However, they eventually need to be replaced due to the relationship of =
cast iron, aluminum, water and electrical current.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Also, I would say NEVER run any type of coolant stop =
leak product with an aluminum radiator, especially with an iron block. =
You will plug the radiator very-very quickly. &nbsp;Not to mention the =
mess the stops leaks product makes where your block and head ports are =
supposed to be able to move coolant. &nbsp;If you are swapping fluids, =
find the leak and fix it correctly.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am on year 5 with the last wizard that I purchased and it is still doing =
good.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Paul Ricco<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Scott Janzen =
via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BFI got a custom radiator for the GT6 from =
Wizard a few months ago, and it is really beautiful craftsmanship. =
&nbsp;I had them duplicate the dimensions of one I got twelve years ago =
from an outfit that went out of business. &nbsp;They copied it =
perfectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe less if you are getting =
off-the-shelf. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
will say that I=E2=80=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - they =
can be welded or sealed depending on where the damage is. &nbsp;The last =
time I did some serious damage to it, so it was truly =
irreparable.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Much, much lighter than stock, =
too.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Scott<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Jan =
3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>There =
are a bunch of answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from =
Wizard Radiator (<a =
href=3D"http://www.wizardcooling.com">www.wizardcooling.com</a>)<o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>There's =
a guy on the Triumphs list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards at a =
discount.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>My one =
concern about aluminium radiators is that most of the time you can't fix =
them, so if you crack them, it's in the bin for 'em. Copper / brass is =
more forgiving. Ally does have the &quot;wow&quot; factor, =
though.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>c =
ya,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>rml<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp530db442yahoo_quoted_1346791563"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>On Monday, January 3, 2022, 03:55:59 PM EST, robert bownes via Fot =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp530db442yiv1783638672><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Wise(ned) ones,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got =
the original TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate =
of ~$360 to re-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns =
the squirrels have thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's =
probably cheaper to get a new Al one than press my luck with the =
original. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>I found 3 row versions for a bit under $200, but they don't seem to =
know much about Triumphs (the pictures have the inlet/outlet pointing in =
the wrong directions) so I figured I'd check =
here...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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82A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
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From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 05:05:04 -0800

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On 1/4/22 4:57 AM, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot wrote:
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> Amici, just a question, doesn’t copper dissipate heat better than 
> aluminum ?
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Yes, but brass is less thermally conductive than aluminum. Our cars came 
with brass radiators, not copper.

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    <p>Yes, but brass is less thermally conductive than aluminum. Our
      cars came with brass radiators, not copper.<br>
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 Hi - I'm not 100% certain about the thermal properties, but I'm certain th=
at cost was a major part of the engineering decisions to use copper / brass=
 back in the day. But for street-driven cars, copper / brass is superior fo=
r a lot of reasons if you leave out the weight as a factor. It's also more =
"forgiving" to road debris and flex than aluminium. For a race car, it's no=
 brainer to use aluminium. Way less weight and they usually come with thick=
er cores and more "rows", hence better suited for the application. Aluminum=
 does have a limited service life, but you can extend that with proper main=
tenance (flushing the system frequently if you use plain water as the coola=
nt) and checking for cracks / pressure testing (catching problems before th=
ey become big problems).
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 07:57:24 AM EST, Alexandre Camoletti via F=
ot <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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Amici, just a question, doesn=E2=80=99t copper dissipate heat better than a=
luminum ?

 =C2=A0

Alex Camoletti=20

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

De=C2=A0: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] De la part de John H. Has=
ty via Fot
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: mardi 4 janvier 2022 02:12
=C3=80=C2=A0: Dave Hogye
Cc=C2=A0: robert bownes; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet=C2=A0: Re: [Fot] Aluminium radiators

 =C2=A0

We get ours custom made without filler neck ... side hoses... etc from Howe=
... $ 350 +\-

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Dave Hogye via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF I have been using a Griffin aluminum radiator for over 8 years no=
w. =C2=A0Also, nicely made and good fit in my TR3. =C2=A0I ordered it with =
a shroud and puller fan. $700 total. =C2=A0Radiator only, $500.=C2=A0=20

They will build custom. I ordered mine without the problematic or crack pro=
ne factory style extended filler neck. I fill it from an expansion tank.=C2=
=A0

Dave H.

 =C2=A0

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFFOT,=20

 =C2=A0

We have good experiences with Wizard as well. They have been reliable and t=
he quality is very good. =C2=A0As some people feel that oil coolers are a c=
onsumable a item, our research indicates the same may be true for aluminum =
radiators in cars with cast iron blocks. There are things that can be done =
to help them live for years. However, they eventually need to be replaced d=
ue to the relationship of cast iron, aluminum, water and electrical current=
.=C2=A0=20

 =C2=A0

Also, I would say NEVER run any type of coolant stop leak product with an a=
luminum radiator, especially with an iron block. You will plug the radiator=
 very-very quickly. =C2=A0Not to mention the mess the stops leaks product m=
akes where your block and head ports are supposed to be able to move coolan=
t. =C2=A0If you are swapping fluids, find the leak and fix it correctly.=C2=
=A0

 =C2=A0

I am on year 5 with the last wizard that I purchased and it is still doing =
good.=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

=EF=BB=BFI got a custom radiator for the GT6 from Wizard a few months ago, =
and it is really beautiful craftsmanship. =C2=A0I had them duplicate the di=
mensions of one I got twelve years ago from an outfit that went out of busi=
ness. =C2=A0They copied it perfectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe less=
 if you are getting off-the-shelf.=20

 =C2=A0

I will say that I=E2=80=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - they c=
an be welded or sealed depending on where the damage is. =C2=A0The last tim=
e I did some serious damage to it, so it was truly irreparable.

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Scott

 =C2=A0

On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

 =C2=A0

There are a bunch of answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from Wi=
zard Radiator (www.wizardcooling.com)

 =C2=A0

There's a guy on the Triumphs list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards at a=
 discount.

 =C2=A0

My one concern about aluminium radiators is that most of the time you can't=
 fix them, so if you crack them, it's in the bin for 'em. Copper / brass is=
 more forgiving. Ally does have the "wow" factor, though.

 =C2=A0

c ya,

rml

 =C2=A0

On Monday, January 3, 2022, 03:55:59 PM EST, robert bownes via Fot <fot@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:=20

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Wise(ned) ones,

 =C2=A0

Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got the origin=
al TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate of ~$360 to r=
e-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns the squirrels h=
ave thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's probably cheaper to get =
a new Al one than press my luck with the original.=20

 =C2=A0

I found 3 row versions for a bit under $200, but they don't seem to know mu=
ch about Triumphs (the pictures have the inlet/outlet pointing in the wrong=
 directions) so I figured I'd check here...

 =C2=A0

Stay fast!

Bob

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

@yahoo.com

m

 =C2=A0

.net

st.net

w.com

@yahoo.com

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi - I'm not 100% certain ab=
out the thermal properties, but I'm certain that cost was a major part of t=
he engineering decisions to use copper / brass back in the day. But for str=
eet-driven cars, copper / brass is superior for a lot of reasons if you lea=
ve out the weight as a factor. It's also more "forgiving" to road debris an=
d flex than aluminium. For a race car, it's no brainer to use aluminium. Wa=
y less weight and they usually come with thicker cores and more "rows", hen=
ce better suited for the application. Aluminum does have a limited service =
life, but you can extend that with proper maintenance (flushing the system =
frequently if you use plain water as the coolant) and checking for cracks /=
 pressure testing (catching problems before they become big problems).</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-set=
dir=3D"false">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Bob Lang=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
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                    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 07:57:24 AM EST, Alexandre=
 Camoletti via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613"><div><div class=
=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082=
613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.5pt;" lang=3D"EN-US">Amici, just =
a question, doesn=E2=80=99t copper dissipate heat better than aluminum ?</s=
pan></p><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:12.5pt;" lang=3D"EN-US"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv26=
23082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.5pt;" lang=3D"EN-US">Alex Ca=
moletti </span></p><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.5pt;" lang=3D"EN-US"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp82=
916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.5pt;" lang=3D"EN-=
US"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) c=
urrentcolor currentcolor; border-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt =
medium medium; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613M=
soNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"FR">De&nbsp;:</span>=
</b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"FR"> Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@=
autox.team.net] <b>De la part de</b> John H. Hasty via Fot<br clear=3D"none=
"><b>Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;:</b> mardi 4 janvier 2022 02:12<br clear=3D"none"><b=
>=C3=80&nbsp;:</b> Dave Hogye<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc&nbsp;:</b> robert bow=
nes; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph<br clear=3D"none"><b>Objet&nbsp;:</b> Re:=
 [Fot] Aluminium radiators</span></p></div></div><div id=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2=
623082613yqt81928" class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613yqt3268465474"><p class=
=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p style=3D"margin-bottom=
:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">We get ours custom ma=
de without filler neck ... side hoses... etc from Howe... $ 350 +\-</p><div=
><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone</p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydp82916f8=
ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">On Jan 3, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Dave Hogye via Fot &lt=
;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=
=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2=
623082613MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF I have been using a Griffin aluminum radiator=
 for over 8 years now. &nbsp;Also, nicely made and good fit in my TR3. &nbs=
p;I ordered it with a shroud and puller fan. $700 total. &nbsp;Radiator onl=
y, $500.&nbsp; </p><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">They=
 will build custom. I ordered mine without the problematic or crack prone f=
actory style extended filler neck. I fill it from an expansion tank.&nbsp;<=
/p><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">Dave H.</p></div><di=
v><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNo=
rmal"> &nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">Sent f=
rom my iPhone</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">=
<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;=
" class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">On Jan 3, 2022, at 2:32 PM, P=
aul Ricco via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p clas=
s=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BFFOT, </p><div><p class=3D"=
ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp829=
16f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">We have good experiences with Wizard as well. =
They have been reliable and the quality is very good. &nbsp;As some people =
feel that oil coolers are a consumable a item, our research indicates the s=
ame may be true for aluminum radiators in cars with cast iron blocks. There=
 are things that can be done to help them live for years. However, they eve=
ntually need to be replaced due to the relationship of cast iron, aluminum,=
 water and electrical current.&nbsp; </p><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv262=
3082613MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv262308261=
3MsoNormal">Also, I would say NEVER run any type of coolant stop leak produ=
ct with an aluminum radiator, especially with an iron block. You will plug =
the radiator very-very quickly. &nbsp;Not to mention the mess the stops lea=
ks product makes where your block and head ports are supposed to be able to=
 move coolant. &nbsp;If you are swapping fluids, find the leak and fix it c=
orrectly.&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"> &nb=
sp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">I am on ye=
ar 5 with the last wizard that I purchased and it is still doing good.&nbsp=
;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><=
/div><div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082=
613MsoNormal">Paul Ricco</p><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNor=
mal">Sent from my iPhone</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613=
MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></p><p style=3D"margin-bot=
tom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">On Jan 3, 2022, at=
 4:01 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@aut=
ox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"=
><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BFI got a custo=
m radiator for the GT6 from Wizard a few months ago, and it is really beaut=
iful craftsmanship. &nbsp;I had them duplicate the dimensions of one I got =
twelve years ago from an outfit that went out of business. &nbsp;They copie=
d it perfectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe less if you are getting of=
f-the-shelf. </p><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"> &nbsp=
;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">I will say t=
hat I=E2=80=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - they can be welded=
 or sealed depending on where the damage is. &nbsp;The last time I did some=
 serious damage to it, so it was truly irreparable.</p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"yd=
p82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">Much, much lighter than stock, too.</p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">Scott</p><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"ydp8291=
6f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal">On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang via Fot=
 &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><p class=3D"yd=
p82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><div><div><p class=3D=
"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">There=
 are a bunch of answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from Wizard =
Radiator (<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.wizardcooling.com" rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank">www.wizardcooling.com</a>)</span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">There's a guy on the Triumphs list =
- Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards at a discount.</span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">My one concern about aluminium radiat=
ors is that most of the time you can't fix them, so if you crack them, it's=
 in the bin for 'em. Copper / brass is more forgiving. Ally does have the "=
wow" factor, though.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082=
613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;">c ya,</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">rml</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &=
nbsp;</span></p></div></div><div id=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613ydp530db442y=
ahoo_quoted_1346791563"><div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;">On Monday, January 3,=
 2022, 03:55:59 PM EST, robert bownes via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote: </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv26230=
82613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><div id=
=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613ydp530db442yiv1783638672"><div><div><p class=3D=
"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#=
26282A;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;">Wise(ned) ones,</=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;co=
lor:#26282A;">Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just =
got the original TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate=
 of ~$360 to re-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns t=
he squirrels have thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's probably c=
heaper to get a new Al one than press my luck with the original. </span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yd=
p82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#262=
82A;">I found 3 row versions for a bit under $200, but they don't seem to k=
now much about Triumphs (the pictures have the inlet/outlet pointing in the=
 wrong directions) so I figured I'd check here...</span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
color:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623=
082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;">Stay fast!=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;">Bob</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;colo=
r:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv26230826=
13MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp82916f8ayiv2623082613MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div></div></div><p=
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