Subject: Re: [Fot] pop up pistons for the TR2-4 engine ? RE: TR3 Race pistons and liners

From: Philip Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 17:06:56 -0500

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> On Nov 9, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Jim Gray via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Either a catastrophic, nonlinear mechanical exasperation or a sudden un sc=
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> jg
> From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Don Marshall via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:21 PM
> To: [email-masked]
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> Subject: Re: [Fot] pop up pistons for the TR2-4 engine ? RE: TR3 Race pist=
ons and liners
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> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 12:26 PM Henry Frye via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
> A heck of a lot of races have been won by wet-liner TR's running pop-up=20=

> pistons. And I'll bet none of them ever had a head collapse.
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> Just sayin'...
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> On 2021-11-09 11:44, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot wrote:
> > Gents,
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> > I recall, but I may be mistaken, that Kas wrote in one of his books
> > that he had experimented pop up pistons but because of the specific
> > shape of the TR2-4 combustion chambers the pop up design was
> > detrimental to the propagation of the flame front and actually this
> > was offsetting the compression gain, so he abandoned this route to
> > remain on the traditional milling one (with thin steel headgasket,
> > which can make quite an additional difference).
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> Friends of Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot]=
 pop up pistons for the TR2-4 engine ? RE: TR3 Race pistons and liners<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 12:26 PM Henry Frye via Fot &l=
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s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">A heck of a lot of races have=
 been won by wet-liner TR's running pop-up <br>pistons. And I'll bet none of=
 them ever had a head collapse.<br><br>Just sayin'...<br><br>On 2021-11-09 1=
1:44, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot wrote:<br>&gt; Gents,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I r=
ecall, but I may be mistaken, that Kas wrote in one of his books<br>&gt; tha=
t he had experimented pop up pistons but because of the specific<br>&gt; sha=
pe of the TR2-4 combustion chambers the pop up design was<br>&gt; detrimenta=
l to the propagation of the flame front and actually this<br>&gt; was offset=
ting the compression gain, so he abandoned this route to<br>&gt; remain on t=
he traditional milling one (with thin steel headgasket,<br>&gt; which can ma=
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Yeah I don=E2=80=99t think that=E2=80=99s gonna buff out.

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From: Philip Gott <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 3:07 PM
To: Jim Gray <[email-masked]>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] pop up pistons for the TR2-4 engine ? RE: TR3 Race =
pistons and liners

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On Nov 9, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Jim Gray via Fot <[email-masked] =

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Either a catastrophic, nonlinear mechanical exasperation or a sudden un =
scheduled disassembly.

jg

From: Fot <[email-masked] =
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Subject: Re: [Fot] pop up pistons for the TR2-4 engine ? RE: TR3 Race =
pistons and liners

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On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 12:26 PM Henry Frye via Fot <[email-masked] =

A heck of a lot of races have been won by wet-liner TR's running pop-up=20
pistons. And I'll bet none of them ever had a head collapse.

Just sayin'...

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yeah I don=E2=80=99t think =
that=E2=80=99s gonna buff out.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Philip Gott =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 9, 2021 3:07 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Jim Gray &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Don Marshall &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] pop up pistons for the =
TR2-4 engine ? RE: TR3 Race pistons and =
liners<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Nov 9, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Jim Gray via =
Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Either a =
catastrophic, nonlinear mechanical exasperation or a sudden un scheduled =
disassembly.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>jg<o:p></o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Marshall via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
November 9, 2021 1:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:=
</b> Friends of Triumph &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> Re: [Fot] pop up pistons for the TR2-4 engine ? RE: TR3 Race =
pistons and liners<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 12:26 PM Henry Frye via Fot =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
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lot of races have been won by wet-liner TR's running pop-up <br>pistons. =
And I'll bet none of them ever had a head collapse.<br><br>Just =
sayin'...<br><br>On 2021-11-09 11:44, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot =
wrote:<br>&gt; Gents,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I recall, but I may be mistaken, =
that Kas wrote in one of his books<br>&gt; that he had experimented pop =
up pistons but because of the specific<br>&gt; shape of the TR2-4 =
combustion chambers the pop up design was<br>&gt; detrimental to the =
propagation of the flame front and actually this<br>&gt; was offsetting =
the compression gain, so he abandoned this route to<br>&gt; remain on =
the traditional milling one (with thin steel headgasket,<br>&gt; which =
can make quite an additional =
difference).<br>_______________________________________________<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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