Subject: Re: [Fot] abradable coatings

From: Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:04:59 -0500

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I left out an important question.  We typically add extra clearance on #4.
With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears to fit=
.

I also wonder how it works with liners.  Even with using boring plates, I
suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit
differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may
change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance
may be perfect.

Bob Kramer

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, th=
e
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
> Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor CC=E2=84=A2)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened u=
p
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC=E2=84=A2 for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
>    - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I left out an important question.=C2=A0 We typically add e=
xtra clearance on #4.=C2=A0 With a proper coating the need may go away, but=
 if the coating wears to fit.<div><br></div><div>I also wonder how it works=
=C2=A0with liners.=C2=A0 Even with using boring plates, I suspect that the =
custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit differently=C2=A0when w=
e bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may change. Nothing wil=
l change for the rings but the piston to bore clearance may be perfect.=C2=
=A0<br><div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signatur=
e" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></di=
v></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
>Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a se=
t of scuffed Wieseco=C2=A0pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coatin=
g and the company says it will work.=C2=A0</div><div><span style=3D"backgro=
und-color:rgb(250,250,250);color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetica,Arial;=
font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(2=
50,250,250);color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:14px"=
>The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an interferen=
ce fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, the coating br=
eaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled abrasion eve=
n accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in components as the =
coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating=
 are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-sc=
uff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and hig=
her efficiency for the life of the device.</span></div><div><br></div><div>=
<br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.line2linecoatings.com/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://www.line2linecoatings.com/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><h=
2 style=3D"margin:10px 0px;font-family:&quot;Droid Sans&quot;;line-height:4=
0px;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-size:22px">Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (A=
rmor CC=E2=84=A2)</h2><div style=3D"min-height:20px;padding:19px;margin-bot=
tom:20px;background:rgb(255,255,242);border:1px solid rgb(255,255,255);bord=
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h3 style=3D"margin:10px 0px;font-family:&quot;Droid Sans&quot;;line-height:=
40px;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-size:18px">For building diametric thickness 0=
.002&quot; to 0.020&quot; - our hardest skirt coating.</h3></center>=C2=A0<=
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b(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;line-height:24px"></p>=C2=
=A0<p style=3D"margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetic=
a;font-size:12px;line-height:24px">Extreme wear resistance provides lasting=
 enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearanc=
es where they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or =
other.</p><p style=3D"margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:H=
elvetica;font-size:12px;line-height:24px">Race proven durability in NHRA PR=
O-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC=E2=84=A2 for the ultimate fit an=
d lubricity.</p><p style=3D"margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(85,85,85);font-fa=
mily:Helvetica;font-size:12px;line-height:24px"><em>Recommended for 2 strok=
es and 4 strokes.</em></p><h2 style=3D"margin:10px 0px;font-family:&quot;Dr=
oid Sans&quot;;line-height:40px;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-size:22px">ADVANTA=
GES:</h2><ul style=3D"padding:0px;margin:0px;color:rgb(85,85,85);list-style=
:none;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;line-height:24px"><li style=3D"l=
ine-height:20px;margin:6px 0px"><strong>Restores and Holds Clearances</stro=
ng></li></ul></div></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div></div>
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From: Chris Marx via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 21:54:17 +0200

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I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.

I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to =
much to the wrong direction.

I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made =
pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .

I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.

=20

Cheers

Chris

=20

=20

Von: Fot <[email-masked]> Im Auftrag von Bob Kramer via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
An: Fot <[email-masked]>
Betreff: [Fot] abradable coatings

=20

Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a =
set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt =
coating and the company says it will work.=20

=20

The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an =
interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, =
the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. =
Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related =
distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit =
is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in =
process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the =
coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for =
the life of the device.

=20

=20

=20

For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt =
coating.

=20

=20

=20

Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt =
dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened =
up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.

Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick =
CC=E2=84=A2 for the ultimate fit and lubricity.

Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.

ADVANTAGES:

*	Restores and Holds Clearances

Bob Kramer

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I did this once with also a =
set of Wiseco pistons.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I had cross =
scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the =
wrong direction.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I did use the coated =
pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, which are =
lighter and never scuffed .<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I use the =
Mahle set since 10 years now.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von =
</b>Bob Kramer via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 =
17:27<br><b>An:</b> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> =
[Fot] abradable coatings<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine =
like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco&nbsp;pistons that could be =
rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will =
work.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#55555=
5;background:#FAFAFA'>The coatings can be applied very thick and =
sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During =
initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between =
mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque =
related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the =
optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the =
break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of =
the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency =
for the life of the device.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.line2linecoatings.com/">https://www.line2linecoatings=
.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><h2 =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;ma=
rgin-left:0cm;line-height:30.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Droid =
Sans",serif;color:#404040'>Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor =
CC=E2=84=A2)<o:p></o:p></span></h2><div style=3D'border:solid white =
1.0pt;padding:14.0pt 14.0pt 14.0pt =
14.0pt;margin-top:15.0pt;margin-bottom:15.0pt;min-height:20px;border-radi=
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;ma=
rgin-left:0cm;text-align:center;line-height:30.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><s=
pan style=3D'font-family:"Droid Sans",serif;color:#404040'>For building =
diametric thickness 0.002&quot; to 0.020&quot; - our hardest skirt =
coating.<o:p></o:p></span></h3><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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border=3D0 width=3D100 height=3D100 =
style=3D'width:1.0416in;height:1.0416in' id=3D"Bild_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:~WRD0000.jpg" alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom Absender =
entfernt."></span><span style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<span =
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style=3D'background:#FFFFF2'><span =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;marg=
in-left:0cm;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt =
dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened =
up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or =
other.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;marg=
in-left:0cm;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with =
Slick CC=E2=84=A2 for the ultimate fit and =
lubricity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;marg=
in-left:0cm;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><em><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
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and Holds Clearances</span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p><=
/span></li></ul></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob =
Kramer<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>
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See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the =
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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>See the photos of the Wiseco =
pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>And the =
difference between Wiseco and Mahle.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54<br><b>An:</b> 'Bob =
Kramer' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fot] abradable =
coatings<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I did this =
once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the =
pistons expanded to much to the wrong direction.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with =
Mahle custom made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed =
.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I use the Mahle set since 10 years =
now.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Bob Kramer via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27<br><b>An:</b> Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Betre=
ff:</b> [Fot] abradable coatings<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine =
like a TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco&nbsp;pistons that could be =
rescued with a skirt coating and the company says it will =
work.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#55555=
5;background:#FAFAFA'>The coatings can be applied very thick and =
sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During =
initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between =
mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque =
related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the =
optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the =
break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of =
the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency =
for the life of the device.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.line2linecoatings.com/">https://www.line2linecoatings=
.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><h2 =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;ma=
rgin-left:0cm;line-height:30.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Droid =
Sans",serif;color:#404040'>Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor =
CC=E2=84=A2)<o:p></o:p></span></h2><div style=3D'border:solid white =
1.0pt;padding:14.0pt 14.0pt 14.0pt =
14.0pt;margin-top:15.0pt;margin-bottom:15.0pt;min-height:20px;border-radi=
us:0px;outline:rgb(204,204,204) solid 1px'><h3 align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;ma=
rgin-left:0cm;text-align:center;line-height:30.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><s=
pan style=3D'font-family:"Droid Sans",serif;color:#404040'>For building =
diametric thickness 0.002&quot; to 0.020&quot; - our hardest skirt =
coating.<o:p></o:p></span></h3><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center;background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'color:black;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'><img =
border=3D0 width=3D100 height=3D100 =
style=3D'width:1.0416in;height:1.0416in' id=3D"Bild_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom =
Absender entfernt."></span><span style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<span =
style=3D'border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'><img border=3D0 =
width=3D100 height=3D100 style=3D'width:1.0416in;height:1.0416in' =
id=3D"Bild_x0020_2" src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" =
alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom Absender =
entfernt."></span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;marg=
in-left:0cm;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt =
dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened =
up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or =
other.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;marg=
in-left:0cm;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with =
Slick CC=E2=84=A2 for the ultimate fit and =
lubricity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;marg=
in-left:0cm;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><em><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.</span></em><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'><o:p></o:p></span></p><h2 =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;ma=
rgin-left:0cm;line-height:30.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Droid =
Sans",serif;color:#404040'>ADVANTAGES:<o:p></o:p></span></h2><ul =
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style=3D'color:#555555;margin-top:4.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;line-height:1=
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style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Restores =
and Holds Clearances</span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p><=
/span></li></ul></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob =
Kramer<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>
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From: Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:10:04 -0500

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Chris

I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had.
I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins but
without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3
pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came
with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom Malhe's?

Bob Kramer

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <[email-masked]> wrote:

> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> *Von:* [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* [email-masked]' <[email-masked]>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> *Von:* Fot <[email-masked]> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <[email-masked]>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Chris<div><br></div><div>I weighed the Wisecos and compare=
d them to some Malhe cast pistons I had. I&#39;m doing this off memot but I=
 think I weighed them with wrist=C2=A0pins but without rings.=C2=A0 The Wis=
ecos were about a US pound and the cast Mahles 1.3 pounds. The wrist pins o=
n the cast ones are heavier than the ones that came with the Wiseco&#39;s.=
=C2=A0 How much lighter are the custom Malhe&#39;s?</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Bob Kramer<br><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" s=
tyle=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"gmail-m_84949126561924157=
20WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">See the photos of the Wiseco pistons=
 with coating to overcome the shrinking.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And the difference bet=
ween Wiseco and Mahle.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div>=
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top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> <a href=3D"mailto:tr=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54<br><b>An:</b> &#39;Bob=
 Kramer&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">r=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Be=
treff:</b> AW: [Fot] abradable coatings<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I di=
d this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expa=
nded to much to the wrong direction.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pis=
tons, which are lighter and never scuffed .<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></u>=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border=
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><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Bob Kramer via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> M=
ittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27<br><b>An:</b> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:=
</b> [Fot] abradable coatings<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Has anyone=
 used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of scuffe=
d Wieseco=C2=A0pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and the c=
ompany says it will work.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
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ial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating p=
arts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related dist=
ortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achi=
eved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. D=
urable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter=
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an><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
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n style=3D"font-size:16.5pt;font-family:&quot;Droid Sans&quot;,serif;color:=
rgb(64,64,64)">Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor CC=E2=84=A2)<u></u><=
u></u></span></h2><div style=3D"border:1pt solid white;padding:14pt;margin-=
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;color:rgb(64,64,64)">For building diametric thickness 0.002&quot; to 0.020=
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=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" styl=
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55,255,242)"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;=
color:rgb(85,85,85)">Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement o=
f piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they =
have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-le=
ft:0cm;line-height:18pt;background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Race proven du=
rability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC=E2=84=A2 for =
the ultimate fit and lubricity.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin-=
right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:18pt;background:r=
gb(255,255,242)"><em><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,san=
s-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.</span=
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gb(85,85,85)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><h2 style=3D"margin-right:0cm;margin=
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olor:rgb(64,64,64)">ADVANTAGES:<u></u><u></u></span></h2><ul style=3D"margi=
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Hi Bob,

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the forged Mahle pistons are 100gr lighter than the Wisecos.

On the photos the bigger shaped piston is the Mahle one.

But it is very fragil. The skirt is very thin and to compensate for =
piston slap the skirt is longer than on the Wisecos.

Price for one Piston was 250=E2=82=AC.

=20

Cheers

Chris

=20

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Von: Bob Kramer <[email-masked]>=20
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 23:10
An: [email-masked]
Cc: Fot <[email-masked]>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] abradable coatings

=20

Chris

=20

I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I =
had. I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist pins =
but without rings.  The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast =
Mahles 1.3 pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the =
ones that came with the Wiseco's.  How much lighter are the custom =
Malhe's?

=20

Bob Kramer

=20

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM <[email-masked] =

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Cheers

Chris

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Chris

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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue =
vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE>Hi =
Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>the forged =
Mahle pistons are 100gr lighter than the Wisecos.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On the photos the bigger shaped piston is the Mahle =
one.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>But it is very fragil. The skirt =
is very thin and to compensate for piston slap the skirt is longer than =
on the Wisecos.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Price for one Piston =
was 250=E2=82=AC.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Bob Kramer &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 23:10<br><b>An:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> Fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] abradable =
coatings<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast pistons I had. =
I'm doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with wrist&nbsp;pins =
but without rings.&nbsp; The Wisecos were about a US pound and the cast =
Mahles 1.3 pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavier than the =
ones that came with the Wiseco's.&nbsp; How much lighter are the custom =
Malhe's?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Bob Kramer<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:06 PM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>See the =
photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the =
shrinking.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>And the =
difference between Wiseco and Mahle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheers<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Chris<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span lang=3DDE> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54<br><b>An:</b> 'Bob Kramer' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> '<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: =
[Fot] abradable coatings</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I did this =
once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I had cross =
scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the =
wrong direction.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I did use =
the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, =
which are lighter and never scuffed .<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I use the =
Mahle set since 10 years now.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheers<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Chris<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span lang=3DDE> Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von =
</b>Bob Kramer via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 =
17:27<br><b>An:</b> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> [Fot] =
abradable coatings</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Has anyone =
used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of =
scuffed Wieseco&nbsp;pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating =
and the company says it will work.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#55555=
5;background:#FAFAFA'>The coatings can be applied very thick and =
sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During =
initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between =
mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque =
related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the =
optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the =
break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of =
the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency =
for the life of the device.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a =
href=3D"https://www.line2linecoatings.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.line2linecoatings.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><h2 =
style=3D'margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:30.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Droid =
Sans",serif;color:#404040'>Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor =
CC=E2=84=A2)</span><o:p></o:p></h2><div style=3D'border:solid white =
1.0pt;padding:14.0pt 14.0pt 14.0pt =
14.0pt;margin-top:15.0pt;margin-bottom:15.0pt;min-height:20px;border-radi=
us:0px;outline:rgb(204,204,204) solid 1px'><h3 align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'margin-bottom:7.5pt;text-align:center;line-height:30.0pt;backgro=
und:#FFFFF2'><span style=3D'font-family:"Droid =
Sans",serif;color:#404040'>For building diametric thickness 0.002&quot; =
to 0.020&quot; - our hardest skirt coating.</span><o:p></o:p></h3><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#F=
FFFF2'><span style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:ce=
nter;background:#FFFFF2'><span style=3D'color:black;border:solid =
windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'><img border=3D0 width=3D100 height=3D100 =
style=3D'width:1.0416in;height:1.0416in' =
id=3D"gmail-m_8494912656192415720Bild_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom =
Absender entfernt."></span><span style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<span =
style=3D'border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'><img border=3D0 =
width=3D100 height=3D100 style=3D'width:1.0416in;height:1.0416in' =
id=3D"gmail-m_8494912656192415720Bild_x0020_2" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom =
Absender entfernt."></span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#F=
FFFF2'><span style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span=
 =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt =
dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened =
up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or =
other.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span=
 =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with =
Slick CC=E2=84=A2 for the ultimate fit and =
lubricity.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><em><=
span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.</span></em><o:p></o:p></p><h2 =
style=3D'margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:30.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span=
 style=3D'font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Droid =
Sans",serif;color:#404040'>ADVANTAGES:</span><o:p></o:p></h2><ul =
style=3D'margin-top:0cm' type=3Ddisc><li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'color:#555555;margin-top:4.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;line-height:1=
5.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:#FFFFF2'><strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Restores =
and Holds Clearances</span></strong><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bob =
Kramer<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></d=
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We get the full set of Wisecos plus liners for that number, but 100 grams
is nearly a 1/4 pound!

Bob Kramer

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 4:16 PM <[email-masked]> wrote:

> But it is very fragil. The skirt is very thin and to compensate for pisto=
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> slap the skirt is longer than on the Wisecos.
>
> *Von:* Bob Kramer <[email-masked]>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 23:10
> *An:* [email-masked]
> *Cc:* Fot <[email-masked]>
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
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> Chris
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>We get the full set of Wisecos plus liners for that n=
umber, but 100 grams is nearly a 1/4 pound!</div><br clear=3D"all"><div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 4:1=
6 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"gm=
ail-m_-4013562112686429630WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"DE">Hi Bob,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"DE"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">the forged Ma=
hle pistons are 100gr lighter than the Wisecos.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">On the photos the bigger shaped piston is the Mahle one.<u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">But it is very fragil. The skirt is ve=
ry thin and to compensate for piston slap the skirt is longer than on the W=
isecos.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Price for one Piston was 25=
0=E2=82=AC.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chri=
s<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:n=
one;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Bob Krame=
r &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">rkramer56@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 23:10<br><b>=
An:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tr4ra=
[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re=
: [Fot] abradable coatings<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u=
></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">I weighed the Wisecos and compared them to some Malhe cast =
pistons I had. I&#39;m doing this off memot but I think I weighed them with=
 wrist=C2=A0pins but without rings.=C2=A0 The Wisecos were about a US pound=
 and the cast Mahles 1.3 pounds. The wrist pins on the cast ones are heavie=
r than the ones that came with the Wiseco&#39;s.=C2=A0 How much lighter are=
 the custom Malhe&#39;s?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-=
bottom:12pt">Bob Kramer<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct 6, 20=
21 at 3:06 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockq=
uote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-l=
eft:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;ma=
rgin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">See the photos of the Wise=
co pistons with coating to overcome the shrinking.<u></u><u></u></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And the diff=
erence between Wiseco and Mahle.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u=
></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:no=
ne;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> <a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54<br><b>An:</b=
> &#39;Bob Kramer&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:f=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&#39; &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;<br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fot] abradable coatings</span><u></u><u></u></p><=
/div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pi=
stons expanded to much to the wrong direction.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custo=
m made pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .<u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.<u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chee=
rs<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u>=
<u></u></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:n=
one;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Fot &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Bob Kramer via Fot<br><b>Gesen=
det:</b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27<br><b>An:</b> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><=
b>Betreff:</b> [Fot] abradable coatings</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set=
 of scuffed Wieseco=C2=A0pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating=
 and the company says it will work.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb=
(85,85,85);background:rgb(250,250,250)">The coatings can be applied very th=
ick and sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. D=
uring initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit betwee=
n mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque re=
lated distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum f=
it is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in proces=
s stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating mainta=
in tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the d=
evice.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u><=
/u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.line2linecoatings.com=
/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.line2linecoatings.com/</a><u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><h2 =
style=3D"margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:30pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16.=
5pt;font-family:&quot;Droid Sans&quot;,serif;color:rgb(64,64,64)">Armor Cle=
arance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor CC=E2=84=A2)</span><u></u><u></u></h2><div s=
tyle=3D"border:1pt solid white;padding:14pt;margin-top:15pt;margin-bottom:1=
5pt;min-height:20px;border-radius:0px;outline:rgb(204,204,204) solid 1px"><=
h3 align=3D"center" style=3D"margin-bottom:7.5pt;text-align:center;line-hei=
ght:30pt;background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Droi=
d Sans&quot;,serif;color:rgb(64,64,64)">For building diametric thickness 0.=
002&quot; to 0.020&quot; - our hardest skirt coating.</span><u></u><u></u><=
/h3><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span styl=
e=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" ali=
gn=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span=
 style=3D"color:black;border:1pt solid windowtext;padding:0cm"><img border=
=3D"0" width=3D"100" height=3D"100" style=3D"width: 1.0416in; height: 1.041=
6in;" id=3D"gmail-m_-4013562112686429630gmail-m_8494912656192415720Bild_x00=
20_1" src=3D"cid:17c5795e90b4ce8e91" alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom Absender ent=
fernt."></span><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0<span style=3D"border:1pt =
solid windowtext;padding:0cm"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"100" height=3D"100=
" style=3D"width: 1.0416in; height: 1.0416in;" id=3D"gmail-m_-4013562112686=
429630gmail-m_8494912656192415720Bild_x0020_2" src=3D"cid:17c5795e90b4ce8e9=
1" alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt."></span></span><u></u><u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span st=
yle=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style=3D"margin-botto=
m:7.5pt;line-height:18pt;background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Extreme wear =
resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensions. Recomme=
nded for restoring clearances where they have opened up from skirt collapse=
, wear, clean-up honing or other.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style=3D"margi=
n-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:18pt;background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D=
"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Race p=
roven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC=E2=84=
=A2 for the ultimate fit and lubricity.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style=3D=
"margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:18pt;background:rgb(255,255,242)"><em><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85,8=
5)">Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.</span></em><u></u><u></u></p><=
h2 style=3D"margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:30pt;background:rgb(255,255,242=
)"><span style=3D"font-size:16.5pt;font-family:&quot;Droid Sans&quot;,serif=
;color:rgb(64,64,64)">ADVANTAGES:</span><u></u><u></u></h2><ul style=3D"mar=
gin-top:0cm" type=3D"disc"><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:rgb(85,85=
,85);margin-top:4.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;line-height:15pt;background:rgb(2=
55,255,242)"><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,san=
s-serif">Restores and Holds Clearances</span></strong><u></u><u></u></li></=
ul></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"all"><u></u><u></u></p><=
div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Kramer<u></u><u></u></p></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div=

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they don=E2=80=99t have a part number, but can be ordered here:

https://wahl-spezialkolben.de/en/

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Cheers

Chris

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An: [email-masked]
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Hi Chris,=20

Thanks for sharing the piston info and photos.  Very good to know. =20

Do the Mahle pistons have a part number?  Can they be ordered?=20

Just wondering.=20

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Cheers

Chris

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Cheers

Chris

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Bob Kramer

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE>Hi =
Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>they =
don=E2=80=99t have a part number, but can be ordered =
here:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://wahl-spezialkolben.de/en/">https://wahl-spezialkolben.de/=
en/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> DAVE HOGYE &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021 04:43<br><b>An:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] abradable =
coatings<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Hi Chris, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Thanks for sharing the piston info and photos.&nbsp; Very good to =
know.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Do the Mahle pistons have a part number?&nbsp; Can they be ordered? =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Just wondering. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Dave <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 10/06/2021 1:06 PM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>See the =
photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the =
shrinking.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>And the =
difference between Wiseco and Mahle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheers<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Chris<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Gesendet:</span></strong> =
Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>An:</span></strong> 'Bob =
Kramer' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><stron=
g><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></strong> =
[email-masked]' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>=
<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Betreff:</span></strong> AW: =
[Fot] abradable coatings<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I did this =
once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I had cross =
scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to much to the =
wrong direction.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I did use =
the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made pistons, =
which are lighter and never scuffed .<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I use the =
Mahle set since 10 years now.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheers<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Chris<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></strong> Fot =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; <strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Im Auftrag =
von </span></strong>Bob Kramer via Fot<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Gesendet:</span></strong> =
Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>An:</span></strong> Fot =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>=
<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Betreff:</span></strong> =
[Fot] abradable coatings<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Has anyone =
used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of =
scuffed Wieseco&nbsp;pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating =
and the company says it will work.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#55555=
5;background:#FAFAFA'>The coatings can be applied very thick and =
sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During =
initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between =
mating parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque =
related distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the =
optimum fit is achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the =
break-in process stops. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of =
the coating maintain tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency =
for the life of the device.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a =
href=3D"https://www.line2linecoatings.com/">https://www.line2linecoatings=
.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p></div><div><h2 =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;ma=
rgin-left:0cm;line-height:30.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#404040'>Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor =
CC=E2=84=A2)</span><o:p></o:p></h2><div style=3D'border:solid white =
1.0pt;padding:14.0pt 14.0pt 14.0pt =
14.0pt;margin-top:15.0pt;margin-bottom:15.0pt;min-height: =
20px;border-radius: 0px;outline: #cccccc solid 1px'><h3 align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;ma=
rgin-left:0cm;text-align:center;line-height:30.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><s=
pan style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#404040'>For =
building diametric thickness 0.002&quot; to 0.020&quot; - our hardest =
skirt coating.</span><o:p></o:p></h3><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#F=
FFFF2'><span style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:ce=
nter;background:#FFFFF2'><span style=3D'color:black;border:solid =
windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'><img border=3D0 width=3D100 height=3D100 =
style=3D'width:1.0416in;height:1.0416in' id=3D"Bild_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom =
Absender entfernt."></span><span style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<span =
style=3D'border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'><img border=3D0 =
width=3D100 height=3D100 style=3D'width:1.0416in;height:1.0416in' =
id=3D"Bild_x0020_2" src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" =
alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom Absender =
entfernt."></span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#F=
FFFF2'><span style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;marg=
in-left:0cm;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt =
dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened =
up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or =
other.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;marg=
in-left:0cm;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with =
Slick CC=E2=84=A2 for the ultimate fit and =
lubricity.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;marg=
in-left:0cm;line-height:18.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><em><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#555555=
'>Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.</span></em><o:p></o:p></p><h2 =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;ma=
rgin-left:0cm;line-height:30.0pt;background:#FFFFF2'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#404040'>ADVANTAGES:</span><o:p></o:p></h2><ul =
style=3D'margin-top:0cm' type=3Ddisc><li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'color:#555555;margin-top:4.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;line-height:1=
5.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:#FFFFF2'><strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Restores =
and Holds Clearances</span></strong><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bob =
Kramer<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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i have had numerous sets of pistons coated/recoated for competition use.
typically, my local vendor of such services says he wont add more than
0.002"  so in that case, you are limited with what you can 'recondition"
using that system. It is described as "moly-teflon"

the coatings i've used will not 'fill in" deep scratches etc so the
machined finish on the piston needs to be near-perfect

when used on supercharger rotors, it is <0.001" thick

i have no personal experiences with the brand listed

Terry

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<div dir=3D"ltr">i have had numerous sets of pistons coated/recoated for co=
mpetition use. typically, my local vendor of such services says he wont add=
 more than 0.002&quot;=C2=A0 so in that case, you are limited with what you=
 can &#39;recondition&quot; using that system. It is described as &quot;mol=
y-teflon&quot;<div><br></div><div>the coatings i&#39;ve used will not &#39;=
fill in&quot; deep scratches=C2=A0etc so the machined finish=C2=A0on the pi=
ston needs to be near-perfect</div><div><br></div><div>when used on superch=
arger rotors, it is &lt;0.001&quot; thick<br><div><br></div><div>i have no =
personal experiences with the brand listed</div><div><br></div><div><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Terry<br><br></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 6:28 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"=
 style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-20986069046420=
67595WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">See the photos of the Wiseco pist=
ons with coating to overcome the shrinking.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And the difference =
between Wiseco and Mahle.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><d=
iv><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;bord=
er-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> <a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54<br><b>An:</b> &#39;=
Bob Kramer&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b=
>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fot] abradable coatings<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=
 did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons e=
xpanded to much to the wrong direction.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made =
pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.<u></u><u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;bord=
er-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Bob Kramer via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</=
b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27<br><b>An:</b> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Betr=
eff:</b> [Fot] abradable coatings<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Has an=
yone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of sc=
uffed Wieseco=C2=A0pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and t=
he company says it will work.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85=
,85);background:rgb(250,250,250)">The coatings can be applied very thick an=
d sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During =
initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mati=
ng parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related =
distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is =
achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stop=
s. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tig=
hter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.=
</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.line2linecoatings.com/" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://www.line2linecoatings.com/</a><u></u><u></u></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><h2 style=
=3D"margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:30pt">=
<span style=3D"font-size:16.5pt;font-family:&quot;Droid Sans&quot;,serif;co=
lor:rgb(64,64,64)">Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor CC=E2=84=A2)<u><=
/u><u></u></span></h2><div style=3D"border:1pt solid white;padding:14pt;mar=
gin-top:15pt;margin-bottom:15pt;min-height:20px;border-radius:0px;outline:r=
gb(204,204,204) solid 1px"><h3 align=3D"center" style=3D"margin-right:0cm;m=
argin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;text-align:center;line-height:30pt;backg=
round:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Droid Sans&quot;,s=
erif;color:rgb(64,64,64)">For building diametric thickness 0.002&quot; to 0=
.020&quot; - our hardest skirt coating.<u></u><u></u></span></h3><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"color:b=
lack">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center=
" style=3D"text-align:center;background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"co=
lor:black;border:1pt solid windowtext;padding:0cm"><img border=3D"0" width=
=3D"100" height=3D"100" style=3D"width: 1.0416in; height: 1.0416in;" id=3D"=
gmail-m_-2098606904642067595Bild_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:17c5c682fa54ce8e91" al=
t=3D"Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt."></span><span style=3D"color:bla=
ck">=C2=A0<span style=3D"border:1pt solid windowtext;padding:0cm"><img bord=
er=3D"0" width=3D"100" height=3D"100" style=3D"width: 1.0416in; height: 1.0=
416in;" id=3D"gmail-m_-2098606904642067595Bild_x0020_2" src=3D"cid:17c5c682=
fa54ce8e91" alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt."></span></span><u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:rgb(255,255,242)"=
><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style=3D"mar=
gin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:18pt;backgrou=
nd:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,san=
s-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlar=
gement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances whe=
re they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;m=
argin-left:0cm;line-height:18pt;background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D=
"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Race p=
roven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC=E2=84=
=A2 for the ultimate fit and lubricity.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D=
"margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:18pt;back=
ground:rgb(255,255,242)"><em><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helve=
tica,sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 stroke=
s.</span></em><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif=
;color:rgb(85,85,85)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><h2 style=3D"margin-right:0c=
m;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:30pt;background:rgb(255,2=
55,242)"><span style=3D"font-size:16.5pt;font-family:&quot;Droid Sans&quot;=
,serif;color:rgb(64,64,64)">ADVANTAGES:<u></u><u></u></span></h2><ul style=
=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"disc"><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:rg=
b(85,85,85);margin-top:4.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;line-height:15pt;backgroun=
d:rgb(255,255,242)"><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvet=
ica,sans-serif">Restores and Holds Clearances</span></strong><span style=3D=
"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li>=
</ul></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"all"><u></u><u></u></p=
><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Kramer<u></u><u></u></p></div></=
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