Subject: [Fot] Fw: Early TR Starters

From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 21:15:21 +0000 (UTC)

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 I tried to send this with 3 pictures attached and it bounced back.=C2=A0 I=
've had this problem before.=C2=A0 So excuse the extra emails, but I'm send=
ing it this time with 1 picture.=C2=A0 If it works, I will send the 2 addit=
ional pictures in 2 separate emails.
Jack

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Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used=
 up to VIN 50,000?=C2=A0 I am trying to get the armature disassembled and u=
nfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing=
!
Attached are some pictures.=C2=A0 As you can see, part of the bendix is sti=
ll on the shaft.=C2=A0 There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that =
is holding it on.=C2=A0 Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the ben=
dix off the shaft?
Many thanks.
Jack
PS.=C2=A0 If anyone has an early shop manual and can copy the relevant page=
s and send them to me, that would be a big help.
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I tried to send this with 3 =
pictures attached and it bounced back.&nbsp; I've had this problem before.&=
nbsp; So excuse the extra emails, but I'm sending it this time with 1 pictu=
re.&nbsp; If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate =
emails.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br></div><div><br></div>
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Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used=
 up to VIN 50,000?&nbsp; I am trying to get the armature disassembled and u=
nfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing=
!</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">Attached are some pictures.&nbsp; As you can see, part =
of the bendix is still on the shaft.&nbsp; There must be some kind of snap =
ring or collar that is holding it on.&nbsp; Any ideas how to get the remain=
ing parts of the bendix off the shaft?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Many thanks.</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false">Jack</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">PS.&nbsp; If anyone has an early shop m=
anual and can copy the relevant pages and send them to me, that would be a =
big help.<br></div></div>
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=EF=BB=BF Attached is the starter section of the TR Service manual. In t=
he=0Aearliest starters they used a left hand threaded nut as the locatin=
g=0Anut (pictured in Fig. 19-G) and it was replaced in later models with=
 a=0Alocating washer held in place by a Circlip. The two different=0Aarm=
atures are interchangeable as a unit. It is hard to tell from the=0Apict=
ures but it looks like you have the later design and the clip has=0Abeen=
 removed. If this is true then it should slide apart giving you=0Aaccess=
 to the rubber shock bushing which probably needs to be changed.=0A  Jef=
f Kelley =0AOn May 1, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot  wrote:=0A=
=0A   =EF=BB=BF  I tried to send this with 3 pictures attached and it bo=
unced=0Aback. I've had this problem before. So excuse the extra emails,=
 but=0AI'm sending it this time with 1 picture. If it works, I will send=
 the=0A2 additional pictures in 2 separate emails. =0A Jack=0A=0A  Does=
 anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3=0Astarters, use=
d up to VIN 50,000? I am trying to get the armature=0Adisassembled and u=
nfortunately, the pages of my manual which discuss=0Athis process are mi=
ssing! =0A Attached are some pictures. As you can see, part of the bendi=
x is=0Astill on the shaft. There must be some kind of snap ring or colla=
r=0Athat is holding it on. Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of t=
he=0Abendix off the shaft? =0A Many thanks. =0A Jack =0A PS. If anyone h=
as an early shop manual and can copy the relevant=0Apages and send them=
 to me, that would be a big help.=0A     _______________________________=
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<html><body><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF Attached is the starter section o=
f the TR Service=0Amanual. In the earliest starters they used a left han=
d threaded nut=0Aas the locating nut (pictured in Fig. 19-G) and it was=
 replaced in later models with a locating washer=0Aheld in place by a Ci=
rclip. The two different armatures are interchangeable as a unit. It is=
 hard to tell from the pictures but it looks like you have the later des=
ign and the clip has been removed. If this is true then it should slide=
 apart giving you access to the rubber shock bushing which probably need=
s to be changed.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div>=0A<div>=0A<div di=
r=3D"ltr">Jeff Kelley</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote>On May 1,=
 2021, at 5:22 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot=0A&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wro=
te:<br><br></blockquote>=0A</div>=0A<blockquote>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BF=0A<div class=3D"ydpb0717d11yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family=
:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">=0A<div=
 dir=3D"ltr">I tried to send this with 3 pictures attached and it=0Aboun=
ced back.&nbsp; I've had this problem before.&nbsp; So excuse=0Athe extr=
a emails, but I'm sending it this time with 1=0Apicture.&nbsp; If it wor=
ks, I will send the 2 additional pictures=0Ain 2 separate emails.</div>=
=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br></div>=0A<div>=
<br></div>=0A</div>=0A<div class=3D"ydp758b1aeayahoo_quoted">=0A<div sty=
le=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-si=
ze:13px;color:#26282a;">=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Do=
es anyone have any experience with the early TR-2=0Aand TR-3 starters, u=
sed up to VIN 50,000?&nbsp; I am trying to get=0Athe armature disassembl=
ed and unfortunately, the pages of my manual=0Awhich discuss this proces=
s are missing!</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">At=
tached are some pictures.&nbsp; As you can see,=0Apart of the bendix is=
 still on the shaft.&nbsp; There must be some=0Akind of snap ring or col=
lar that is holding it on.&nbsp; Any ideas=0Ahow to get the remaining pa=
rts of the bendix off the shaft?</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=0A<=
div dir=3D"ltr">Many thanks.</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=0A<div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Jack</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"=
>PS.&nbsp; If anyone has an early shop manual and can=0Acopy the relevan=
t pages and send them to me, that would be a big=0Ahelp.<br></div>=0A</d=
iv>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<div>&lt;DSC_0001.JPG&gt;</div>=0A<span>________=
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From: Jeff Kelley via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 19:31:28 -0400

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To follow up my previous post here is a picture of both styles of armatures.=
 The one on the left is the early design.=20

Jeff Kelley

> On May 1, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I tried to send this with 3 pictures attached and it bounced back.  I've h=
ad this problem before.  So excuse the extra emails, but I'm sending it this=
 time with 1 picture.  If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in=
 2 separate emails.
>=20
> Jack
>=20
>=20
> Does anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, use=
d up to VIN 50,000?  I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfort=
unately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing!
>=20
> Attached are some pictures.  As you can see, part of the bendix is still o=
n the shaft.  There must be some kind of snap ring or collar that is holding=
 it on.  Any ideas how to get the remaining parts of the bendix off the shaf=
t?
>=20
> Many thanks.
>=20
> Jack
>=20
> PS.  If anyone has an early shop manual and can copy the relevant pages an=
d send them to me, that would be a big help.
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">To follow up my previous post here is a pic=
ture of both styles of armatures. The one on the left is the early design.&n=
bsp;<div><br></div><div><img src=3D"cid:35D2FBEC-2A03-4DF6-A59A-26E531A6016F-=
L0-001"><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Jeff Kelley</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite">On May 1, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;fo=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydpb0717d11yahoo-style-wrap" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13p=
x;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I tried to send this with 3 p=
ictures attached and it bounced back.&nbsp; I've had this problem before.&nb=
sp; So excuse the extra emails, but I'm sending it this time with 1 picture.=
&nbsp; If it works, I will send the 2 additional pictures in 2 separate emai=
ls.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br></div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydp758b1aeayahoo_quoted_0452997767" class=3D"ydp758=
b1aeayahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
                <div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">D=
oes anyone have any experience with the early TR-2 and TR-3 starters, used u=
p to VIN 50,000?&nbsp; I am trying to get the armature disassembled and unfo=
rtunately, the pages of my manual which discuss this process are missing!</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false">Attached are some pictures.&nbsp; As you can see, part of the=
 bendix is still on the shaft.&nbsp; There must be some kind of snap ring or=
 collar that is holding it on.&nbsp; Any ideas how to get the remaining part=
s of the bendix off the shaft?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Many thanks.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
>Jack</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 data-setdir=3D"false">PS.&nbsp; If anyone has an early shop manual and can c=
opy the relevant pages and send them to me, that would be a big help.<br></d=
iv></div>
            </div>
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