Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs?

From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 18:49:23 -0500

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I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the a=
bility to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far eas=
ier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head=
 gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the=
 steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is e=
asier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place.  And yes, I=
 re use the ARP studs.=20
Phil Gott
=E2=80=9865 TR4A HRG Group 3.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFI re-use the ARP head studs.  Don=E2=80=99t have any stock =E2=80=
=9Ccritical" bolts/studs in my race engine.
>=20
> On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>=20
> In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a h=
ead stud failure.  Broken most everything else...........except for coils, n=
ever had a bad coil............
>=20
> Henry Morrison
>=20
> Sent from Outlook
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> From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Greg Lemon <=
[email-masked]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM
> To: Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]>
> Cc: list Triumph <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs?
> =20
> I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and nev=
er had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB=
, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey.
>=20
> Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if st=
retched it will bind.
>=20
> Greg Lemon, TR250
>=20
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
> I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A=E2=80=99s head is a=
t the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use=
 the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and ev=
en if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on t=
his, but am interested in yours.
> =20
> Thanks,
> =20
> Cliff
> =20
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I had been re-using stock head studs with n=
o problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with a=
n Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two=
 studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and fina=
lly, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a p=
recision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are o=
nly two studs in place. &nbsp;And yes, I re use the ARP studs.&nbsp;<div>Phi=
l Gott</div><div>=E2=80=9865 TR4A HRG Group 3.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 9, 2=
021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><=
br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<m=
eta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">I re-=
use the ARP head studs. &nbsp;Don=E2=80=99t have any stock =E2=80=9Ccritical=
" bolts/studs in my race engine.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><div clas=
s=3D"">On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div=
><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta charset=3D"UT=
F-8" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;=
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ica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">In 39 years of British cars, I=
've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.&nbsp; Broken m=
ost everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil........=
....</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-=
weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;=
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ou re-use head studs?</font><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D"=
"><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I know some people always replace them, I hav=
e never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--th=
e includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey.<div dir=3D=
"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Somebody=
, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it=
 will bind.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D=
"auto" class=3D"">Greg Lemon, TR250</div></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"=
x_gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1=
:06 PM Cliff Hansen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D=
"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blockquote c=
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""><div class=3D"x_m_-2488180878004560899WordSection1"><div style=3D"margin-=
top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=3D"">I respect your collective advice a=
nd experience. The 4A=E2=80=99s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head=
 gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you repla=
ce them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for a=
t least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.</d=
iv><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=3D""><u class=3D=
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 Hi Phil.=C2=A0 I used the same exact process when installing the steel shi=
m head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.=C2=A0 2 studs, head=
 gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared=
 with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with =
Gaskacinch)..=C2=A0 Worked then, sounds like it still works now.=C2=A0 Some=
 things never change.
Jack

    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox=
.team.net> wrote: =20
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 I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that th=
e ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far=
 easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated=
 head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Becau=
se the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs,=
 it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. =
=C2=A0And yes, I re use the ARP studs.=C2=A0Phil Gott=E2=80=9865 TR4A HRG G=
roup 3.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

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I re-use the ARP head studs. =C2=A0Don=E2=80=99t have any stock =E2=80=9Ccr=
itical" bolts/studs in my race engine.

On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a h=
ead stud failure.=C2=A0 Broken most everything else...........except for co=
ils, never had a bad coil............
Henry Morrison
Sent from=C2=A0Outlook

From:=C2=A0Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Greg Lem=
on <[email-masked]>
Sent:=C2=A0Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM
To:=C2=A0Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]>
Cc:=C2=A0list Triumph <[email-masked]>
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs?=C2=A0I know some=
 people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a pro=
blem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 c=
ylinder TR, and big Healey.
Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if str=
etched it will bind.
Greg Lemon, TR250
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]> wrote:

I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A=E2=80=99s head is a=
t the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-us=
e the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and =
even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts o=
n this, but am interested in yours.=C2=A0Thanks,=C2=A0Cliff=C2=A0=C2=A0Sent=
 from=C2=A0Mail=C2=A0for Windows 10=C2=A0**=C2=[email-masked]=C2=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi Phil.&nbsp; I used the sa=
me exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 rac=
e car all those years ago.&nbsp; 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all g=
asket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket seale=
r), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..&nbsp; Worked th=
en, sounds like it still works now.&nbsp; Some things never change.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false">Jack<br></div><div><br></div>
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                    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott vi=
a Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068"><div>I had been r=
e-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to =
install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to in=
stall the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket,=
 then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel =
shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier=
 to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. &nbsp;And yes,=
 I re use the ARP studs.&nbsp;<div>Phil Gott</div><div>=E2=80=9865 TR4A HRG=
 Group 3.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from m=
y iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqt856=
7497062" id=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqtfd15220"><br clear=3D"none"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;f=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockqu=
ote></div></div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqt8567497062" id=3D"=
ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqtfd15152"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">=EF=BB=BF</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4=
yiv6324567068yqt8567497062" id=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqtfd60231"><div>=
I re-use the ARP head studs. &nbsp;Don=E2=80=99t have any stock =E2=80=9Ccr=
itical" bolts/studs in my race engine.<br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068=
" clear=3D"none"><div><br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none"=
><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry =
A. Morrison via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068=
" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot=
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ple-interchange-newline" clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567=
068"></div></div></div></div><div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqt=
8567497062" id=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqtfd44985"><div class=3D"ydpd95e=
1bc4yiv6324567068" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; letter=
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al; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-style: s=
olid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica,=
 sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">In 39 years of British cars, I've never repl=
aced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.&nbsp; Broken most everythi=
ng else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............</div><=
div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-we=
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4567068">To:</b><span class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068Apple-converted-spac=
e">&nbsp;</span>Cliff Hansen &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6=
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to:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none"><b=
 class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">Subject:</b><span class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4y=
iv6324567068Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [TR] would any of you r=
e-use head studs?</font><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">&nbsp;</div=
></div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv=
6324567068">I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced t=
hem and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite=
/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey.<div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4=
yiv6324567068"><br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a=
 good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind.</div><div clas=
s=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068"><br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=
=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">Greg Lemon, TR250</=
div></div><br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none"><div class=
=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068x_gmail_quote"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324=
567068x_gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen &=
lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" href=3D"mailto:clif=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">cliff_hansen@outlo=
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2488180878004560899WordSection1"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" st=
yle=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">I respect your collective advice =
and experience. The 4A=E2=80=99s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (he=
ad gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you re=
place them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place f=
or at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in your=
s.</div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" style=3D"margin-top:0px;mar=
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:14:12 +0000 (UTC)

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 The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just s=
lightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay t=
he gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw =
in easily.The current replacements have all of the holes same size.
Glen Efinger
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: Phil Gott <[email-masked]>
Cc: FOT Triumph <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs?

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<div> <font size=3D"2">The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front &amp; 1 =
rear diagonal holes just slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate o=
n those 2 studs; you lay the gasket on &amp; screw in those 2 studs, and fi=
t the head and the rest screw in easily.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">The current replacements have all of the holes same s=
ize.<br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Glen Efinger</font><br>
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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Phil Gott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: FOT Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs?<br>
<br>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Phil.&nbsp; I used the same exact process when installi=
ng the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.&nbs=
p; 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block l=
iberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (al=
so smeared with Gaskacinch)..&nbsp; Worked then, sounds like it still works=
 now.&nbsp; Some things never change.</div>

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                    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott vi=
a Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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<div>I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found tha=
t the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it=
 far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre tre=
ated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. B=
ecause the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the st=
uds, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in plac=
e. &nbsp;And yes, I re use the ARP studs.&nbsp;
<div>Phil Gott</div>

<div>=E2=80=9865 TR4A HRG Group 3.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>

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0476184875ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqtfd15220"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite">On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;fot@au=
tox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote><=
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<div>I re-use the ARP head studs. &nbsp;Don=E2=80=99t have any stock =E2=80=
=9Ccritical" bolts/studs in my race engine.<br class=3D"yiv0476184875ydpd95=
e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none">
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<div class=3D"yiv0476184875ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:4=
8 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv0476184875ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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0476184875ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqtfd44985">
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ecoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;font-family:Calibr=
i, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">In 39 years of British cars, I've=
 never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.&nbsp; Broken mo=
st everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil........=
....</div>

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rmal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transfor=
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ecoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;font-family:Calibr=
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ecoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;font-family:Calibr=
i, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">Henry Morrison</div>

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75ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none"><b class=3D"yiv0476184875ydpd95e=
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24567068Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [TR] would any of you re-us=
e head studs?</font>
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<div class=3D"yiv0476184875ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">I know some people alw=
ays replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with h=
ead gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR,=
 and big Healey.
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4A=E2=80=99s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). =
Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are=
 likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years=
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Back in 2002 at Mid Ohio they had a swap meet in the car show area.  I
bought a box of a hundred new head studs and a sleeve of NOS shim steel
head gaskets from a guy there.  Ithink I paid $100 for the whole lot. I
still have some gaskets.  I sold some stud sets on eBay years and years ago
to recoup the cost but I still have a bunch. I also started using ARP
because of the hex key recess..

Bob Kramer

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 5:22 PM fubog1 via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just
> slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you la=
y
> the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest scr=
ew
> in easily.
> The current replacements have all of the holes same size.
> Glen Efinger
>
>
> Hi Phil.  I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim
> head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.  2 studs, head
> gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeare=
d
> with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with
> Gaskacinch)..  Worked then, sounds like it still works now.  Some things
> never change.
>
> Jack
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that
> the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it
> far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre
> treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head
> itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fi=
t
> on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two
> studs in place.  And yes, I re use the ARP studs.
> Phil Gott
> On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
>
> I re-use the ARP head studs.  Don=E2=80=99t have any stock =E2=80=9Ccriti=
cal" bolts/studs
> in my race engine.
>
> On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <[email-masked]=
>
> wrote:
>
> In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a
> head stud failure.  Broken most everything else...........except for coil=
s,
> never had a bad coil............
>
> Henry Morrison
>
> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Greg
> Lemon <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM
> *To:* Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* list Triumph <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs?
>
> I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and
> never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midge=
t,
> MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey.
>
> Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if
> stretched it will bind.
>
> Greg Lemon, TR250
>
> I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A=E2=80=99s head is=
 at the
> machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use th=
e
> head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even
> if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on
> this, but am interested in yours.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Back in 2002 at Mid Ohio they had a swap meet in the car s=
how area.=C2=A0 I bought a box of a hundred=C2=A0new head studs and a sleev=
e of NOS shim steel head gaskets from a guy there.=C2=A0 Ithink I paid $100=
 for the whole lot. I still have some gaskets.=C2=A0 I sold some stud sets =
on eBay years and years ago to recoup=C2=A0the cost but I still have=C2=A0a=
 bunch. I also started=C2=A0using ARP because of the hex key recess..<div><=
br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smart=
mail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br><=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 5:22 PM fubog1 via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"2">The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front &amp; 1 =
rear diagonal holes just slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate o=
n those 2 studs; you lay the gasket on &amp; screw in those 2 studs, and fi=
t the head and the rest screw in easily.</font></div>

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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: Phil Gott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">vfr=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: FOT Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Phil.=C2=A0 I used the same exact process when installi=
ng the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.=C2=
=A0 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block =
liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (a=
lso smeared with Gaskacinch)..=C2=A0 Worked then, sounds like it still work=
s now.=C2=A0 Some things never change.</div>

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<div>
                    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott vi=
a Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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<div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-705088414042585500yiv0476184875ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068=
">
<div>I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found tha=
t the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it=
 far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre tre=
ated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. B=
ecause the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the st=
uds, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in plac=
e.=C2=A0 And yes, I re use the ARP studs.=C2=A0
<div>Phil Gott</div>

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<div id=3D"gmail-m_-705088414042585500yiv0476184875ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068=
yqtfd15220"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 9, 2021, at=
 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></blockquote></div>
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<div id=3D"gmail-m_-705088414042585500yiv0476184875ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068=
yqtfd60231">
<div>I re-use the ARP head studs.=C2=A0 Don=E2=80=99t have any stock =E2=80=
=9Ccritical&quot; bolts/studs in my race engine.<br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div>On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
follow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

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<div id=3D"gmail-m_-705088414042585500yiv0476184875ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068=
yqtfd44985">
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:curr=
entcolor;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">In 39 yea=
rs of British cars, I&#39;ve never replaced a head stud, never had a head s=
tud failure.=C2=A0 Broken most everything else...........except for coils, =
never had a bad coil............</div>

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xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
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<div>I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and=
 never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget=
, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey.
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, i=
f stretched it will bind.</div>

<div>Greg Lemon, TR250</div>
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
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<div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">I respect your collective a=
dvice and experience. The 4A=E2=80=99s head is at the machinist for a clean=
up (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would =
you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in p=
lace for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested i=
n yours.</div>

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<div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Thanks,</div>

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Now matter how the head gasket is oriented on the block, I also orient the
head gasket on the head to make sure the gasket does not intrude into the
combustion chamber, especially where the intake valve pocket is relieved.
Sometimes it doesn't exactly match the arc on the cylinder liner.
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 matter how the head gasket is oriented on the block, I also orient the hea=
d gasket on the head to make sure the gasket does not intrude into the comb=
ustion chamber, especially where the intake valve pocket is relieved.=C2=A0=
 Sometimes it doesn&#39;t exactly match the arc on the cylinder liner.</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">John Styduhar=C2=A0=
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<div> <font size=3D"2">The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front &amp; 1 =
rear diagonal holes just slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate o=
n those 2 studs; you lay the gasket on &amp; screw in those 2 studs, and fi=
t the head and the rest screw in easily.</font></div>

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 That's a good point and quite true, especially w/the new replacement gaske=
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o mentioned, the inlet valve relief area is especially critical.Glen
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head gasket on the head to make sure the gasket does not intrude into the c=
ombustion chamber, especially where the intake valve pocket is relieved.=C2=
=A0 Sometimes it doesn't exactly match the arc on the cylinder liner.John S=
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Cc: FOT Triumph <[email-masked]>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs?

    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox=
.team.net> wrote: =20
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 I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that th=
e ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far=
 easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated=
 head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Becau=
se the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs,=
 it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place.=
=C2=A0 And yes, I re use the ARP studs.=C2=A0Phil Gott=E2=80=9865 TR4A HRG =
Group 3.

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<div> <font size=3D"2">That's a good point and quite true, especially w/the=
 new replacement gaskets, the holes are all big and the gasket can shuffle =
around, and as you also mentioned, the inlet valve relief area is especiall=
y critical.</font></div>

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tter how the head gasket is oriented on the block, I also orient the head g=
asket on the head to make sure the gasket does not intrude into the combust=
ion chamber, especially where the intake valve pocket is relieved.&nbsp; So=
metimes it doesn't exactly match the arc on the cylinder liner.</div>

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6:21 PM fubog1 via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
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e.&nbsp; And yes, I re use the ARP studs.&nbsp;

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entcolor;font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">In 39 =
years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head st=
ud failure.&nbsp; Broken most everything else...........except for coils, n=
ever had a bad coil............</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
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<div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">I respect your collective =
advice and experience. The 4A=E2=80=99s head is at the machinist for a clea=
nup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would=
 you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in =
place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested =
in yours.</div>

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<div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">Thanks,</div>

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<div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">Cliff</div>

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