Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions

From: DAVE HOGYE via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 11:32:35 -0800 (PST)

Hi Greg,
The sleeve is usually loose on the pin.  The manual says to not tighten the outer pin support bracket until the vehicle is on the ground and the suspension fully weighted. I always put a piece of blue or yellow painters tape on fasteners that aren't torqued or tightened right away as a reminder to go back to the later. 
Dave H. 
> On 12/07/2020 10:34 AM Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>  
> It’s been awhile since I’ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004” clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I’m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right?  Seems excessive to me. 
> 
> Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3?
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Greg
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From: fubog1 via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 20:08:49 +0000 (UTC)

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  The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed=
 in the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the b=
ush.Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the=
 equation.
Or I may be misunderstanding the concern...HTH
Glen Efinger
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-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: Fot <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm
Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions

It=E2=80=99s been awhile since I=E2=80=99ve done this so I have a question =
about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lo=
wer inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004=E2=80=
=9D clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cros=
s pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel thi=
s clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I=E2=80=99m assuming the m=
ajority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the sus=
pension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that cle=
arance sound right?=C2=A0 Seems excessive to me.=20

Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of =
that slop on a TR3?

Thanks.=20

Greg

Sent from my iPhone

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<div> <font size=3D"2">The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened,=20
the nylon bushes pressed in the A-arms; the relative movement is between
 the steel OD &amp; ID of the bush.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Clearance between the ID of the steel &amp; the pivot=
 pin isn't part of the equation.</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"2">Or I may be misunderstanding the concern...</font></d=
iv>

<div><font size=3D"2">HTH</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"2">Glen Efinger<br>
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From: Greg Blake via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm<br>
Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It=E2=80=99s been awhile since I=E2=80=99ve done this so I=
 have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cr=
oss pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is a=
bout 0.004=E2=80=9D clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the=
 suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, =
you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I=E2=80=99=
m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the rema=
inder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to as=
k, does that clearance sound right?&nbsp; Seems excessive to me. <br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon inse=
rt to get rid of that slop on a TR3?<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks. <br>
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From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:36:52 +0100 (CET)

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Glen, I believe you are right, the steel bushes don't move or rotate on the=
 pins.=20
B.t.w. the nylon (Nylatron) bushes are ok and much better than the original=
 rubber ones wich had to be replaced frequently.=20
Marcel=20

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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions=20

The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed i=
n the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the bus=
h.=20
Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the equ=
ation.=20

Or I may be misunderstanding the concern...=20
HTH=20

Glen Efinger=20

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From: Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]>=20
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Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions=20

arance sound right? Seems excessive to me.=20

that slop on a TR3?=20

Thanks.=20

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