Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak

From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 08:09:27 -0500

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Jerry;
We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing e=
xtends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No prob=
lem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crank=
shaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the p=
ulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks=
.
I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint betwee=
n the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface.=20
Merry Christmas!!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> I wasn=E2=80=99t looking for any political responses to my question. Pleas=
e keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here.
> JVV
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak
> =20
> Yes,
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e:
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> I run a=20
>   thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. N=
ew=20
>   seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting=
=20
>   worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that.=20
> =20
> My=20
>   question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while us=
ing=20
>   the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal ride=
s on=20
>   the spacer installed behind the damper pulley.=20
> Has anyone found a double lip seal=20
>   replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a refer=
ence=20
>   P/N?
> =20
> Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New=20
>   Year has to be better than 2020.
> =20
> JVV
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Jerry;<div>We run a narrow belt on both car=
s. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to m=
ate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We h=
ave had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perha=
ps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn=
, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks.</div><div>I wonder if you have e=
liminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and dampe=
r coincides with the lip seal interface.&nbsp;</div><div>Merry Christmas!!!<=
br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><block=
quote type=3D"cite">On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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<div>I wasn=E2=80=99t looking for any political responses to my question. Pl=
ease keep=20
those to yourself. Not appropriate here.</div>
<div>JVV</div>
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<div>&nbsp;</div></div>
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libri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
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<div class=3D"aolmail_replyHeader">On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vl=
ack=20
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x; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 9px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
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  <div style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: no=
ne; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255=
,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial"><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 1=
1.3pt" color=3D"#050505">I run a=20
  thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New=
=20
  seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting=20=

  worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. </font></font></div=
  <div style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: no=
ne; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255=
,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial"><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 1=
1.3pt" color=3D"#050505"></font></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: no=
ne; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255=
,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial"><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 1=
1.3pt" color=3D"#050505">My=20
  question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while usin=
g=20
  the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides o=
n=20
  the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. </font></font></div>
  <div style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: no=
ne; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255=
,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial"><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic">Has anyo=
ne found a double lip seal=20
  replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a referen=
ce=20
  P/N?</font></div>
  <div style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: no=
ne; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255=
,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial"><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"></font>&=
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  <div style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: no=
ne; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255=
,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial"><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic">Thanks a=
nd Merry Christmas. The New=20
  Year has to be better than 2020.</font></div>
  <div style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: no=
ne; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255=
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,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
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From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:37:45 +0100 (CET)

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On 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover =
itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near th=
e rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner.=20
Marcel=20

Van: "fot" <[email-masked]>=20
Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: [email-masked], "fot" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]=
=20
Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak=20

Jerry;=20
We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing =
extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No pr=
oblem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the cr=
ankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between =
the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No=
 leaks.=20
I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint betwe=
en the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface.=20
Merry Christmas!!!=20

Sent from my iPhone=20

rote:=20

BQ_BEGIN

I wasn=E2=80=99t looking for any political responses to my question. Please=
 keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here.=20
JVV=20
From: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM=20
To: [email-masked]=20
Cc: [email-masked] ; [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak=20
Yes,=20
Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world.=20

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I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cov=
er. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now ge=
tting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that.=20
My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while us=
ing the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rid=
es on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley.=20
Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied sea=
l and if yes do you have a reference P/N?=20
Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020.=20
JVV=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>On&nbsp; 2 occasions I had a leaki=
ng timing because of a small hole in the cover itself : once the hole had t=
he shape of a thin line and was located near the rivets or spotwelds of the=
 chain tensioner.</div><div>Marcel</div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__D=
IVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.=
team.net&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Jerry Van Vlack" &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;<br><b>Cc: </b>[email-masked], "fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, =
[email-masked]<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27<br=
><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak<br></div=
><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">Jerry;<div>We run a na=
rrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends int=
o the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using=
 the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft sp=
igot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley =
and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks.</di=
v><div>I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the join=
t between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface.&nbsp=
;</div><div>Merry Christmas!!!<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote>On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Va=
n Vlack via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div=
><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'calibri';color:#000000">
<div>I wasn=E2=80=99t looking for any political responses to my question. P=
lease keep=20
those to yourself. Not appropriate here.</div>
<div>JVV</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:'calibri';fo=
nt-weight:normal;color:#000000;font-style:normal;display:inline">
<div style=3D"font:10pt 'tahoma'">
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"background:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> [email-masked] </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> [email-masked]=20
</div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked] ;=20
[email-masked] </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak</div></div><=
/div>
<div>&nbsp;</div></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:'calibri';fo=
nt-weight:normal;color:#000000;font-style:normal;display:inline">Yes,=20

<div>Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world.<br><br>
<div id=3D"__aol_mail_signature__">
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4">Sent=20
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<div class=3D"aolmail_replyHeader">On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van V=
lack=20
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: </div><br>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-left:9px;ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 9px;padding-right:0px">
  <div id=3D"yiv0688108229">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'calibri';color:#000000">
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;l=
etter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0p=
x"><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"font-size:11.3pt" color=
=3D"#050505">I run a=20
  thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. Ne=
w=20
  seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting=
=20
  worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. </font></font></di=
v>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;l=
etter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0p=
x"><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"font-size:11.3pt" color=
=3D"#050505"></font></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;l=
etter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0p=
x"><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"font-size:11.3pt" color=
=3D"#050505">My=20
  question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while usi=
ng=20
  the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides=
 on=20
  the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. </font></font></div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;l=
etter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0p=
x"><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic">Has anyone found a do=
uble lip seal=20
  replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a refere=
nce=20
  P/N?</font></div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;l=
etter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0p=
x"><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;l=
etter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0p=
x"><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic">Thanks and Merry Chri=
stmas. The New=20
  Year has to be better than 2020.</font></div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;l=
etter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0p=
x"><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"></font>&nbsp;</div>
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etter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0p=
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Good point, Marcel.
I have had oil pan leaks due to the same phenomenon. Spot welds where the wi=
ndage tray attaches to the pan. Oil splashed onto the exhaust on left hand t=
urns. Caught fire, but the fire went out on the straights and into the pits.=
 Really baffled us (and the corner workers) for several sessions...!
Merry Christmas!
Phil=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:37 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
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> On  2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cove=
r itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near t=
he rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner.
> Marcel
> Van: "fot" <[email-masked]>
> Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" <[email-masked]>

> Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27
> We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing=
 extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No pr=
oblem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the cra=
nkshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between th=
e pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No le=
aks.
> I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint betw=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Good point, Marcel.<div>I have had oil pan l=
eaks due to the same phenomenon. Spot welds where the windage tray attaches t=
o the pan. Oil splashed onto the exhaust on left hand turns. Caught fire, bu=
t the fire went out on the straights and into the pits. Really baffled us (a=
nd the corner workers) for several sessions...!</div><div>Merry Christmas!</=
div><div>Phil&nbsp;</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:37 AM, v=
[email-masked] wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Ar=
ial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>On&nbsp; 2=
 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itsel=
f : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rive=
ts or spotwelds of the chain tensioner.</div><div>Marcel</div><hr id=3D"zwch=
r" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>=
"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Jerry Van Vlack" &lt;jerryv=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>[email-masked], "fot" &lt;fot@au=
tox.team.net&gt;, [email-masked]<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 25 december=
 2020 14:09:27<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal o=
il leak<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">Jerry;<=
div>We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housi=
ng extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No p=
roblem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the cr=
ankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between t=
he pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No l=
eaks.</div><div>I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if t=
he joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface=
.&nbsp;</div><div>Merry Christmas!!!<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iP=
hone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote>On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerr=
y Van Vlack via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></=
div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'calibri';color:#000000">
<div>I wasn=E2=80=99t looking for any political responses to my question. Pl=
ease keep=20
those to yourself. Not appropriate here.</div>
<div>JVV</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:'calibri';fon=
t-weight:normal;color:#000000;font-style:normal;display:inline">
<div style=3D"font:10pt 'tahoma'">
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"background:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> [email-masked] </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> [email-masked]=20
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<div><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked] ;=20
[email-masked] </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak</div></div></=
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<div>&nbsp;</div></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:'calibri';fon=
t-weight:normal;color:#000000;font-style:normal;display:inline">Yes,=20

<div>Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world.<br><br>
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<div class=3D"aolmail_replyHeader">On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vl=
ack=20
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<blockquote style=3D"padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-left:9px;mar=
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  <div id=3D"yiv0688108229">
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  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"font-size:11.3pt" color=3D"=
#050505">I run a=20

  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"font-size:11.3pt" color=3D"=
#050505"></font></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"font-size:11.3pt" color=3D"=
#050505">My=20
  question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while usin=
g=20
  the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides o=
n=20
  the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. </font></font></div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic">Has anyone found a doubl=
e lip seal=20
  replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a referen=
ce=20
  P/N?</font></div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"></font>&nbsp;</div>
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tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic">Thanks and Merry Christm=
as. The New=20
  Year has to be better than 2020.</font></div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"></font>&nbsp;</div>
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I=E2=80=99ve seen that too but that=E2=80=99s not my issue at least for =
now. What does the future hold?

From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot=20
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 9:37 AM
To: Phil Gott=20
Cc: fot=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak

On  2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the =
cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was =
located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner.
Marcel

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Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak

Jerry;=20
We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller =
housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger =
washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage =
out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. =
and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we =
assemble it with some rtv. No leaks.
I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint =
between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface.=20
Merry Christmas!!!

Sent from my iPhone

  On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

  I wasn=E2=80=99t looking for any political responses to my question. =
Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here.
  JVV

  Yes,=20

  On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked]> =
wrote:=20

    I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing =
chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial =
startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try =
that.=20

    My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage =
while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that =
the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley.=20
    Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard =
supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N?

    Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020.

    JVV

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&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<BR><B>Cc: </B>[email-masked], =
"fot"=20
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;, [email-masked]<BR><B>Verzonden: =
</B>Vrijdag 25=20
december 2020 14:09:27<BR><B>Onderwerp: </B>Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover =
crank=20
seal oil leak<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller =
housing=20
extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No =
problem=20
using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the =
crankshaft=20
spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the =
pulley and=20
spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No =
leaks.</DIV>
<DIV>I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the =
joint=20
between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. =
</DIV>
<DIV>Merry Christmas!!!<BR><BR>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot=20
  &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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  <DIV>I wasn=E2=80=99t looking for any political responses to my =
question. Please keep=20
  those to yourself. Not appropriate here.</DIV>
  <DIV>JVV</DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
'calibri'; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
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  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
  <DIV><B>From:</B> [email-masked] </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> [email-masked] </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Cc:</B> [email-masked] ; [email-masked] </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil=20
  leak</DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
'calibri'; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline">Yes,=20

  <DIV>Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world.<BR><BR>
  <DIV id=3D__aol_mail_signature__>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: 'helveticaneue-light'; COLOR: =
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  <DIV class=3Daolmail_replyHeader>On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry =
Van Vlack=20
  &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: </DIV><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 9px; =
MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 9px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
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#000000">
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    style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: =
none; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); =
TEXT-INDENT: 0px"><FONT=20
    face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11.3pt" =
color=3D#050505>I run=20
    a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain =
cover. New=20
    seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now =
getting=20
    worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. =
</FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: =
none; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); =
TEXT-INDENT: 0px"><FONT=20
    face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11.3pt"=20
    color=3D#050505></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: =
none; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); =
TEXT-INDENT: 0px"><FONT=20
    face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11.3pt" =
color=3D#050505>My=20
    question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage =
while using=20
    the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal =
rides on=20
    the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: =
none; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); =
TEXT-INDENT: 0px"><FONT=20
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From: Mark J Bradakis via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:50:59 -0700

On 12/25/20 7:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote:
> On  2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the 
> cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was 

If the timing chain tensioner breaks so that you have a rough edge 
riding against the cover, rather than a smooth curve, it will eventually 
machine a slot into the cover.  I've had it happen on some Spitfire engines.

mjb.

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From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:28:14 +0100 (CET)

Hi Mark,
I forgot about the cause. Indeed there was a broken chain tensioner. These tensioners are so flimsy, I wonder if they do much of a job.
If the chain is running quiet, the surface of the tensioner remains smooth. A broken tensioner, but also deep ridges, sometimes in a short time, are proof that the chain was slapping on it. This happens when the sprockets are not perfectly in line as is often the case when a billet steel crankshaft is fitted. A wobbling chain means also that the ignition advance is not stable with some loss of power. It shows with a stroboscope light. But this is  starting to look like a lesson, sorry!
Marcel

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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak

mjb.

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