Subject: [Fot] cracked block

From: Brian Schirano via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:11:49 -0500

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Hey Amichi
Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back
up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface
so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket
through the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to
pics <https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA>) I've heard of blocks
being welded and have some recollection that this stud is a weak spot?
Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have
antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting how it
travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the
exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.

Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and
depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly
inspected and magged.

Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or *?* for damper rebuilds?

Thanks Friends
Be Careful out there
Brian

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Amichi<div>Figured as I need to keep busy I&#39;d star=
t stripping a motor to prep as back up race motor build this winter. And as=
 I&#39;m razer blading the block surface so I could take decking measuremen=
ts I see a crack in the water jacket through the RR head stud hole out to t=
he block exterior. (SOB!!! <a href=3D"https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7=
Zep2YA">link to pics</a>) I&#39;ve heard of blocks being welded and have so=
me recollection=C2=A0that this stud is a weak spot? Don&#39;t know anything=
 about the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it whe=
n I started working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket t=
hrough the stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to =
run deep, maybe an inch or so.</div><div><br></div><div>Anywise, looking fo=
r comments. I&#39;ll be talking to my machinist as well and depending on co=
mments and his thoughts=C2=A0will have it cleaned and thoroughly inspected =
and magged.</div><div><br></div><div>Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or=
 <u>?</u> for damper rebuilds?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks Friends</div=
><div>Be Careful out there</div><div>Brian</div><div><br clear=3D"all"><div=
>--=C2=A0<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmai=
l=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian Schirano<div>585-305-0349</div=
></div></div></div></div>

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From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:05:13 -0500

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A while back someone on FOT posted about a threaded insert that is supposed t=
o hold the block together around the crack. Seems like a good idea. We have t=
wo blocks with similar cracks ( yes, it is common especially if the head stu=
ds are over torqued) and they will get this treatment. Here is a link:

http://castingrepair.locknstitch.com/category/fsb-style-inserts-2

Phil Gott

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> On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:41 PM, rek46 via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> ask him if " pinning it " would help
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> In a message dated 11/22/2020 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot@autox.=
team.net writes:
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> Hey Amichi
> Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as back=
 up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surface=
 so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket thro=
ugh the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! link to pics) I=
've heard of blocks being welded and have some recollection that this stud i=
s a weak spot? Don't know anything about the motor/block, was donated to me,=
 it did have antifreeze in it when I started working on it, so? Interesting h=
ow it travels from the jacket through the stud hole and continues out to the=
 exterior. Does not appear to run deep, maybe an inch or so.
> =20
> Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well and=
 depending on comments and his thoughts will have it cleaned and thoroughly i=
nspected and magged.
> =20
> Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or ? for damper rebuilds?
> =20
> Thanks Friends
> Be Careful out there
> Brian
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> 585-305-0349
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">A while back someone on FOT posted about a t=
hreaded insert that is supposed to hold the block together around the crack.=
 Seems like a good idea. We have two blocks with similar cracks ( yes, it is=
 common especially if the head studs are over torqued) and they will get thi=
s treatment. Here is a link:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://castingrep=
air.locknstitch.com/category/fsb-style-inserts-2">http://castingrepair.lockn=
stitch.com/category/fsb-style-inserts-2</a></div><div><br></div><div>Phil Go=
tt<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:41 PM, rek46 via Fot &lt;fot@au=
tox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div>
<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">
<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10=
pt; color: #000000;">ask him if " pinning it " would help</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10=
pt; color: #000000;">&nbsp;</span></div>
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In a message dated 11/22/2020 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email-masked]=
am.net writes:
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"quotedReply">
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue 2=
px solid;">
<div id=3D"yiv1306127717">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Amichi
<div>Figured as I need to keep busy I'd start stripping a motor to prep as b=
ack up race motor build this winter. And as I'm razer blading the block surf=
ace so I could take decking measurements I see a crack in the water jacket t=
hrough the RR head stud hole out to the block exterior. (SOB!!! <a href=3D"h=
ttps://photos.app.goo.gl/4ArkTSrR3q7Zep2YA" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollo=
w noopener">link to pics</a>) I've heard of blocks being welded and have som=
e recollection&nbsp;that this stud is a weak spot? Don't know anything about=
 the motor/block, was donated to me, it did have antifreeze in it when I sta=
rted working on it, so? Interesting how it travels from the jacket through t=
he stud hole and continues out to the exterior. Does not appear to run deep,=
 maybe an inch or so.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Anywise, looking for comments. I'll be talking to my machinist as well a=
nd depending on comments and his thoughts&nbsp;will have it cleaned and thor=
oughly inspected and magged.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Lastly, damper dudes or damper doc, or <u>?</u> for damper rebuilds?</d=
iv>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks Friends</div>
<div>Be Careful out there</div>
<div>Brian</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">
<div>--&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"yiv1306127717gmail_signature" dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Brian Schirano
<div>585-305-0349</div>
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From: Steve Yott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:34:43 -0600

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