Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Head Gasket

From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 05:51:16 -0400

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Michael;
It is also critical that the liners protrude above the block by .005 to .007=
=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This is before any compression of the figur=
e 8 gaskets.  If the protrusion is less, the top of the block should be mill=
ed to achieve the proper protrusion.
If you have milled the head more than about .060 you should consider staking=
 the head around the bores between cylinders two and three per the Kastner b=
ook. It is weak in this area.
The rest of the advice you=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but I have n=
ot tried all of it.
Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the head and what you have done w=
ith the combustion chambers, you may need to reshape the fire ring area of y=
our gasket. It must not protrude at all into the combustion chamber.
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic.  I=
 had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head gask=
et.  I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in the d=
ay, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1).  =46rom day 1 it=
 never really ran right.  I began to suspect coolant was getting into the co=
mbustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull some coo=
lant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests for hydr=
ocarbons.  Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system.  T=
hat says bad head gasket or crack in the head.  Since I'd had the head magna=
fluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket.
>=20
> I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.  A guy at a l=
ocal engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.  I had never h=
eard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so surely they w=
ould not make a gasket for it.  He encouraged me to check the internet, and s=
ure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR engine.  It's been a f=
ew years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83=
MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses.  They stack=
ed steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired.  I th=
ink I ordered a 3 layer gasket.  It all sounded a little fishy, but based on=
 the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one.
>=20
> I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and=
 suddenly the engine ran great.  I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car si=
nce then and haven't had a problem.  It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, a=
s tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks.  By the w=
ay, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement.  I also used t=
hat.  A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.  Do not spray a t=
hick coat.  Below is the link to the Cometic web site.  Check it out.
>=20
> Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure
>=20
> Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure
> Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of motorsport=
s markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au...
> Jack
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> On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot <fot@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
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> Phil, Dave,
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> I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4=
 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust.
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> Thank you
> Michael L
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Michael;<div>It is also critical that the l=
iners protrude above the block by .005 to .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good sea=
l. This is before any compression of the figure 8 gaskets. &nbsp;If the prot=
rusion is less, the top of the block should be milled to achieve the proper p=
rotrusion.</div><div>If you have milled the head more than about .060 you sh=
ould consider staking the head around the bores between cylinders two and th=
ree per the Kastner book. It is weak in this area.</div><div>The rest of the=
 advice you=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but I have not tried all of=
 it.</div><div>Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the head and what=
 you have done with the combustion chambers, you may need to reshape the fir=
e ring area of your gasket. It must not protrude at all into the combustion c=
hamber.</div><div>Phil<br><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM, J=
ack Wheeler via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></=
div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<!--[if gte mso 9]><=
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serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><cite class=3D"ydp93995=
a00algo-display-url">I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anythi=
ng about Cometic.&nbsp; I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, u=
sing the stock head gasket.&nbsp; I built the engine as I would have built o=
ne of my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compress=
ion (10.5:1).&nbsp; =46rom day 1 it never really ran right.&nbsp; I began to=
 suspect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of=
 those test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running=
 and add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.&nbsp; Sure enough, hydroca=
rbons were getting into my coolant system.&nbsp; That says bad head gasket o=
r crack in the head.&nbsp; Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the reb=
uild, I assumed it was the head gasket.</cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false"><span><cite class=3D"ydp93995a00algo-display-url"><br><=
/cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><cite class=3D=
"ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I began asking around about where I could get a=
 good gasket.&nbsp; A guy at a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) re=
commended Cometic.&nbsp; I had never heard of them, and told him the engine w=
as over 50 years old, so surely they would not make a gasket for it.&nbsp; H=
e encouraged me to check the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bu=
nch of them for the TR engine.&nbsp; It's been a few years ago, but as I rec=
all, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and y=
ou could order different thicknesses.&nbsp; They stacked steel gaskets on to=
p of each other to get to the thickness desired.&nbsp; I think I ordered a 3=
 layer gasket.&nbsp; It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong r=
ecommendation I had received, I ordered one.</cite></span></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><cite class=3D"ydp93995a00algo-display-url"=
><br></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><cite c=
lass=3D"ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I removed the bad head gasket and repla=
ced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engine ran great.&nbsp; I h=
ave put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and haven't had a problem.&=
nbsp; It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as tested recently), pulls stron=
g, and no sign of any coolant leaks.&nbsp; By the way, I noticed someone els=
e recommended Hylomar gasket cement.&nbsp; I also used that.&nbsp; A light c=
oat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.&nbsp; Do not spray a thick coat.=
&nbsp; Below is the link to the Cometic web site.&nbsp; Check it out.<br></c=
ite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><cite class=3D=
"ydp93995a00algo-display-url"><br></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false"><a href=3D"https://www.cometic.com/" rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank" class=3D"enhancr_card_6247372032">Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under=
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                    On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- v=
ia Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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<div><font size=3D"2">Phil, Dave,</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at L=
ime Rock (Green TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust.<=
/font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Thank you</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Michael L<br>
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From: Russell Westfall via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:59:17 +0000 (UTC)

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 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px =
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:whi=
te !important; } I absolutely concur about the sleeve standing proud of the=
 block, however, be careful that you don't have too much protrusion, (ask m=
e how I know=F0=9F=A4=94) I believe the spec is 2 to 5 thousandths. I use a=
 copper gasket so I'm at about 3. Morty Dunst made my gasket and he can do =
them in various thicknesses.Cheers!Russ Westfall=C2=A0

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 4:52 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]=
> wrote:

Michael;It is also critical that the liners protrude above the block by .00=
5 to .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This is before any compression of=
 the figure 8 gaskets. =C2=A0If the protrusion is less, the top of the bloc=
k should be milled to achieve the proper protrusion.If you have milled the =
head more than about .060 you should consider staking the head around the b=
ores between cylinders two and three per the Kastner book. It is weak in th=
is area.The rest of the advice you=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but=
 I have not tried all of it.Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the=
 head and what you have done with the combustion chambers, you may need to =
reshape the fire ring area of your gasket. It must not protrude at all into=
 the combustion chamber.Phil

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

=EF=BB=BF I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about C=
ometic.=C2=A0 I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the=
 stock head gasket.=C2=A0 I built the engine as I would have built one of m=
y race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (1=
0.5:1).=C2=A0 From day 1 it never really ran right.=C2=A0 I began to suspec=
t coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those=
 test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running and =
add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.=C2=A0 Sure enough, hydrocarbon=
s were getting into my coolant system.=C2=A0 That says bad head gasket or c=
rack in the head.=C2=A0 Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the rebui=
ld, I assumed it was the head gasket.
I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.=C2=A0 A guy at=
 a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.=C2=A0 I =
had never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so =
surely they would not make a gasket for it.=C2=A0 He encouraged me to check=
 the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR =
engine.=C2=A0 It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets =
for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order diffe=
rent thicknesses.=C2=A0 They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to =
get to the thickness desired.=C2=A0 I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.=C2=
=A0 It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I=
 had received, I ordered one.
I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and =
suddenly the engine ran great.=C2=A0 I have put almost 7.000 miles on the c=
ar since then and haven't had a problem.=C2=A0 It runs cool (even on 95 deg=
ree days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant lea=
ks.=C2=A0 By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cem=
ent.=C2=A0 I also used that.=C2=A0 A light coat on all sealing surfaces doe=
s the trick.=C2=A0 Do not spray a thick coat.=C2=A0 Below is the link to th=
e Cometic web site.=C2=A0 Check it out.

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    On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot <fot@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote: =20
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I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 =
#802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust.
Thank youMichael L
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r about the sleeve standing proud of the block, however, be careful that yo=
u don't have too much protrusion, (ask me how I know=F0=9F=A4=94) I believe=
 the spec is 2 to 5 thousandths. I use a copper gasket so I'm at about 3. M=
orty Dunst made my gasket and he can do them in various thicknesses.<div>Ch=
eers!</div><div>Russ Westfall&nbsp;<br><div><div><br><br><a href=3D"https:/=
/yho.com/footer0">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad</a><br><br><p class=3D"yaho=
o-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px=
; margin-top: 0">On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 4:52 AM, Phil Gott via Fot &l=
t;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=
=3D"yiv5461992557"><div>Michael;<div>It is also critical that the liners pr=
otrude above the block by .005 to .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This=
 is before any compression of the figure 8 gaskets. &nbsp;If the protrusion=
 is less, the top of the block should be milled to achieve the proper protr=
usion.</div><div>If you have milled the head more than about .060 you shoul=
d consider staking the head around the bores between cylinders two and thre=
e per the Kastner book. It is weak in this area.</div><div>The rest of the =
advice you=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but I have not tried all of=
 it.</div><div>Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the head and wha=
t you have done with the combustion chambers, you may need to reshape the f=
ire ring area of your gasket. It must not protrude at all into the combusti=
on chamber.</div><div>Phil<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div c=
lass=3D"yiv5461992557yqt3814779460" id=3D"yiv5461992557yqtfd35058"><br clea=
r=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Jack Whee=
ler via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div class=3D"yiv5461992557yqt3814779460" id=3D"yiv5461992557yqtfd97259"=
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font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><=
div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-=
display-url">I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything abou=
t Cometic.&nbsp; I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using =
the stock head gasket.&nbsp; I built the engine as I would have built one o=
f my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression=
 (10.5:1).&nbsp; From day 1 it never really ran right.&nbsp; I began to sus=
pect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of th=
ose test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running a=
nd add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.&nbsp; Sure enough, hydrocar=
bons were getting into my coolant system.&nbsp; That says bad head gasket o=
r crack in the head.&nbsp; Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the re=
build, I assumed it was the head gasket.</cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><span><cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url"><br clear=
=3D"none"></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=3D"yiv5461=
992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I began asking around about where I coul=
d get a good gasket.&nbsp; A guy at a local engine shop (primarily Ford eng=
ines) recommended Cometic.&nbsp; I had never heard of them, and told him th=
e engine was over 50 years old, so surely they would not make a gasket for =
it.&nbsp; He encouraged me to check the internet, and sure enough, they mak=
e a whole bunch of them for the TR engine.&nbsp; It's been a few years ago,=
 but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87=
MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses.&nbsp; They stacked ste=
el gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired.&nbsp; I th=
ink I ordered a 3 layer gasket.&nbsp; It all sounded a little fishy, but ba=
sed on the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one.</cite></spa=
n></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-=
display-url"><br clear=3D"none"></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>=
<cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I removed the bad =
head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engin=
e ran great.&nbsp; I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and =
haven't had a problem.&nbsp; It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as teste=
d recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks.&nbsp; By the w=
ay, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement.&nbsp; I also =
used that.&nbsp; A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.&nbsp;=
 Do not spray a thick coat.&nbsp; Below is the link to the Cometic web site=
.&nbsp; Check it out.<br clear=3D"none"></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><span><cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url"><br clear=
=3D"none"></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" class=3D"yiv5461992557enhancr_card_6247372032" target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"https://www.cometic.com/">Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressu=
re</a></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp48b=
58523yahoo-link-enhancr-card yiv5461992557ydp48b58523yahoo-link-enhancr-not=
-allow-cover yiv5461992557ydp48b58523ymail-preserve-class yiv5461992557ydp4=
8b58523ymail-preserve-style yahoo-link-enhancr-no-image" id=3D"yiv546199255=
7ydp48b58523enhancr_card_6247372032" style=3D"max-width:400px;font-family:Y=
ahooSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" data-url=
=3D"https://www.cometic.com/" data-type=3D"YENHANCER" data-size=3D"MEDIUM">=
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp48b58523yahoo-e=
nhancr-cardlink" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.cometic.com/" style=
=3D"text-decoration-line:none !important;text-decoration-style:solid !impor=
tant;text-decoration-color:currentcolor !important;color:rgb(0, 0, 0) !impo=
rtant;"><table class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp48b58523card-wrapper yiv5461992557y=
dp48b58523yahoo-ignore-table" style=3D"max-width:400px;" cellspacing=3D"0" =
cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" w=
idth=3D"400"><table class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp48b58523card yiv5461992557ydp4=
8b58523yahoo-ignore-table" style=3D"max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border=
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00%" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td colspa=
n=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1"><table class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp48b58523card-info yiv=
5461992557ydp48b58523yahoo-ignore-table" style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,=
 255, 255);background-repeat:repeat;background-attachment:scroll;background=
-image:none;background-size:auto;position:relative;z-index:2;width:100%;max=
-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px 2px;border-top:1px solid rgb(224, 22=
8, 233);" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td c=
olspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=3D"background-color:#ffffff;padding:16px 0=
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"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=3D"vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12p=
x;width:99%;font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Ari=
al, sans-serif;border-radius:0 0 2px 0;"><h2 class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp48b58=
523card-title" style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;=
font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-ser=
if;color:rgb(38, 40, 42);max-width:314px;">Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Ex=
treme Pressure</h2><p class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp48b58523card-description" st=
yle=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:16px;margin:0px;color:rgb(151, 155, 167);=
">Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of motorspor=
ts markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au...</p></td></tr></tbody></table></t=
d></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div>Jack<div><br cle=
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<div>I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green=
 TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust.</div>

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<div>Thank you</div>

<div>Michael L<br clear=3D"none">
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 The spec on liner protrusion is actually .003" - .005", and this is critic=
al.=C2=A0 I found one at .002" one time, and tried it anyway.=C2=A0 It didn=
't work!=C2=A0 So, measure carefully and make sure you have at ;least .003"=
 protrusion.
Jack

    On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 9:59:23 AM EDT, Russell Westfall <rwestfal=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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 I absolutely concur about the sleeve standing proud of the block, however,=
 be careful that you don't have too much protrusion, (ask me how I know=F0=
=9F=A4=94) I believe the spec is 2 to 5 thousandths. I use a copper gasket =
so I'm at about 3. Morty Dunst made my gasket and he can do them in various=
 thicknesses.Cheers!Russ Westfall=C2=A0

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dy><div class=3D"ydp10683171yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetic=
a Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The spec on liner protrusion=
 is actually .003" - .005", and this is critical.&nbsp; I found one at .002=
" one time, and tried it anyway.&nbsp; It didn't work!&nbsp; So, measure ca=
refully and make sure you have at ;least .003" protrusion.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
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                    On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 9:59:23 AM EDT, Russell We=
stfall &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917"><div>
I absolutely concur about the sleeve standing proud of the block, however, =
be careful that you don't have too much protrusion, (ask me how I know=F0=
=9F=A4=94) I believe the spec is 2 to 5 thousandths. I use a copper gasket =
so I'm at about 3. Morty Dunst made my gasket and he can do them in various=
 thicknesses.<div>Cheers!</div><div>Russ Westfall&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"><=
div><div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"ht=
tps://yho.com/footer0" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Sent from Yahoo M=
ail for iPad</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpff30=
3fbdyiv9752833917yqt7771625207" id=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917yqt02613"><p =
class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size:15p=
x;color:#715FFA;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0;">On Saturday, August 1, 2020=
, 4:52 AM, Phil Gott via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><blockquo=
te class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917iosymail"><div id=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752=
833917"><div>Michael;<div>It is also critical that the liners protrude abov=
e the block by .005 to .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This is before =
any compression of the figure 8 gaskets. &nbsp;If the protrusion is less, t=
he top of the block should be milled to achieve the proper protrusion.</div=
><div>If you have milled the head more than about .060 you should consider =
staking the head around the bores between cylinders two and three per the K=
astner book. It is weak in this area.</div><div>The rest of the advice you=
=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but I have not tried all of it.</div>=
<div>Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the head and what you have=
 done with the combustion chambers, you may need to reshape the fire ring a=
rea of your gasket. It must not protrude at all into the combustion chamber=
.</div><div>Phil<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpf=
f303fbdyiv9752833917yqt3814779460" id=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917yqtfd35058=
"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM,=
 Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917yqt3814779460" id=3D"ydpff=
303fbdyiv9752833917yqtfd97259">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833=
917ydp48ec8264yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvet=
ica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917ydp93=
995a00algo-display-url">I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard an=
ything about Cometic.&nbsp; I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years =
ago, using the stock head gasket.&nbsp; I built the engine as I would have =
built one of my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less =
compression (10.5:1).&nbsp; From day 1 it never really ran right.&nbsp; I b=
egan to suspect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bough=
t one of those test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine i=
s running and add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.&nbsp; Sure enoug=
h, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system.&nbsp; That says bad he=
ad gasket or crack in the head.&nbsp; Since I'd had the head magnafluxed du=
ring the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket.</cite></span></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917ydp93995a00algo-d=
isplay-url"><br clear=3D"none"></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><=
cite class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I began =
asking around about where I could get a good gasket.&nbsp; A guy at a local=
 engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.&nbsp; I had neve=
r heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so surely t=
hey would not make a gasket for it.&nbsp; He encouraged me to check the int=
ernet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR engine.&=
nbsp; It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for diff=
erent bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different thi=
cknesses.&nbsp; They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to t=
he thickness desired.&nbsp; I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.&nbsp; It al=
l sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had rece=
ived, I ordered one.</cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=
=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917ydp93995a00algo-display-url"><br clear=3D"none"=
></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv97=
52833917ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I removed the bad head gasket and repl=
aced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engine ran great.&nbsp; I=
 have put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and haven't had a proble=
m.&nbsp; It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as tested recently), pulls s=
trong, and no sign of any coolant leaks.&nbsp; By the way, I noticed someon=
e else recommended Hylomar gasket cement.&nbsp; I also used that.&nbsp; A l=
ight coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.&nbsp; Do not spray a thic=
k coat.&nbsp; Below is the link to the Cometic web site.&nbsp; Check it out=
.<br clear=3D"none"></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=
=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917ydp93995a00algo-display-url"><br clear=3D"none"=
></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpff303fb=
dyiv9752833917enhancr_card_6247372032" href=3D"https://www.cometic.com/" re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pres=
sure</a></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv975=
2833917ydp48b58523yahoo-link-enhancr-card ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917ydp48b585=
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DIUM"><a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917ydp48b58523yahoo-e=
nhancr-cardlink" href=3D"https://www.cometic.com/" style=3D"text-decoration=
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n-color:currentcolor !important;color:rgb(0, 0, 0) !important;" rel=3D"nofo=
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"Staking the head", as per the Kas Kastner books :I've done it on 3 cylinde=
rheads so far. It is really straightforward and a good measure for peace of=
 mind. If the staking is done before milling the head, the screws are nicel=
y flush by itself . The 4 cyl TR engines are 60+ yrs old by now and more of=
ten than not, the liners are not protruding evenly and milling the block is=
 necessary.=20
Marcel=20

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 thicknesses.=20
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> wrote:=20

Michael;=20
It is also critical that the liners protrude above the block by .005 to .00=
7=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This is before any compression of the fig=
ure 8 gaskets. If the protrusion is less, the top of the block should be mi=
lled to achieve the proper protrusion.=20
If you have milled the head more than about .060 you should consider stakin=
g the head around the bores between cylinders two and three per the Kastner=
 book. It is weak in this area.=20
The rest of the advice you=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but I have =
not tried all of it.=20
Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the head and what you have done=
 with the combustion chambers, you may need to reshape the fire ring area o=
f your gasket. It must not protrude at all into the combustion chamber.=20
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I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic. I =
had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head gask=
et. I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines in the =
day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1). From day 1 it =
never really ran right. I began to suspect coolant was getting into the com=
bustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull some coo=
lant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests for hyd=
rocarbons. Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system. T=
hat says bad head gasket or crack in the head. Since I'd had the head magna=
fluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket.=20

I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket. A guy at a loc=
al engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic. I had never he=
ard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so surely they =
would not make a gasket for it. He encouraged me to check the internet, and=
 sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR engine. It's been =
a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e=
. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses. They s=
tacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired. =
I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket. It all sounded a little fishy, but base=
d on the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one.=20

I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and =
suddenly the engine ran great. I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car sin=
ce then and haven't had a problem. It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as=
 tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks. By the w=
ay, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement. I also used t=
hat. A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick. Do not spray a th=
ick coat. Below is the link to the Cometic web site. Check it out.=20

[ https://www.cometic.com/ | Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure=
 ]=20

[ https://www.cometic.com/ | Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure=
Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of motorsports=
 markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au... ]=20
Jack=20

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Phil, Dave,=20

I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 =
#802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust.=20

Thank you=20
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/*]]>*/</style></div><div><br></div><div>"Staking the head", as per the Kas=
 Kastner books :I've done it on 3 cylinderheads so far. It is really straig=
htforward and a good measure for peace of mind. If the staking is done befo=
re milling the head, the screws are nicely flush by itself . The 4 cyl TR e=
ngines are 60+ yrs old by now and more often than not, the liners are not p=
rotruding evenly and milling the block is necessary.&nbsp;</div><div>Marcel=
</div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HE=
ADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Phil =
Gott" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "Jack Wheeler" &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Zate=
rdag 1 augustus 2020 15:59:17<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Best Head Gask=
et<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">
I absolutely concur about the sleeve standing proud of the block, however, =
be careful that you don't have too much protrusion, (ask me how I know=F0=
=9F=A4=94) I believe the spec is 2 to 5 thousandths. I use a copper gasket =
so I'm at about 3. Morty Dunst made my gasket and he can do them in various=
 thicknesses.<div>Cheers!</div><div>Russ Westfall&nbsp;<br><div><div><br><b=
r><a href=3D"https://yho.com/footer0" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noo=
pener noreferrer">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad</a><br><br><p class=3D"yaho=
o-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size:15px;color:#715ffa;padding-top:15px;marg=
in-top:0">On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 4:52 AM, Phil Gott via Fot &lt;fot@a=
utox.team.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv54=
61992557"><div>Michael;<div>It is also critical that the liners protrude ab=
ove the block by .005 to .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This is befor=
e any compression of the figure 8 gaskets. &nbsp;If the protrusion is less,=
 the top of the block should be milled to achieve the proper protrusion.</d=
iv><div>If you have milled the head more than about .060 you should conside=
r staking the head around the bores between cylinders two and three per the=
 Kastner book. It is weak in this area.</div><div>The rest of the advice yo=
u=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but I have not tried all of it.</div=
><div>Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the head and what you hav=
e done with the combustion chambers, you may need to reshape the fire ring =
area of your gasket. It must not protrude at all into the combustion chambe=
r.</div><div>Phil<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv=
5461992557yqt3814779460" id=3D"yiv5461992557yqtfd35058"><br clear=3D"none">=
<blockquote>On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;fot@autox=
.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></di=
v></div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv5461992557yqt38147794=
60" id=3D"yiv5461992557yqtfd97259"><div class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp48ec8264ya=
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l' , sans-serif;font-size:13px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-displa=
y-url">I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Come=
tic.&nbsp; I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the st=
ock head gasket.&nbsp; I built the engine as I would have built one of my r=
ace engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5=
:1).&nbsp; From day 1 it never really ran right.&nbsp; I began to suspect c=
oolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those te=
st kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running and add=
 a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.&nbsp; Sure enough, hydrocarbons w=
ere getting into my coolant system.&nbsp; That says bad head gasket or crac=
k in the head.&nbsp; Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the rebuild,=
 I assumed it was the head gasket.</cite></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><cite class=
=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url"><br clear=3D"none"></cite></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url=
">I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.&nbsp; A guy =
at a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.&nbsp; =
I had never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, s=
o surely they would not make a gasket for it.&nbsp; He encouraged me to che=
ck the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the T=
R engine.&nbsp; It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gasket=
s for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order dif=
ferent thicknesses.&nbsp; They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other t=
o get to the thickness desired.&nbsp; I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.&n=
bsp; It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation =
I had received, I ordered one.</cite></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><cite class=3D"=
yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url"><br clear=3D"none"></cite></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I =
removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and su=
ddenly the engine ran great.&nbsp; I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car=
 since then and haven't had a problem.&nbsp; It runs cool (even on 95 degre=
e days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks=
.&nbsp; By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cemen=
t.&nbsp; I also used that.&nbsp; A light coat on all sealing surfaces does =
the trick.&nbsp; Do not spray a thick coat.&nbsp; Below is the link to the =
Cometic web site.&nbsp; Check it out.<br clear=3D"none"></cite></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url"><br cle=
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I read a couple of people talking about milling the block deck.  I have
seen two blocks that were milled, one on a club member's car that had head
gasket issues and another on a block I was checking to build a race engine.
No doubt that both had been milled with the block flat on the milling
table. With liners in place, boring plate installed, the deck surface was
off by 2 thousands side to side. Not very head gasket friendly. I did some
measuring and realized that the figure 8 surface was also off by the same
amount. Both could have been the result of sloppy machine work but I came
to the conclusion that the factory block deck and figure eight machining
was done at the same time. I haven't yet decked a block but if I did I
would measure the figure 8 surface relative to the deck first. YMMV.

Bob Kramer

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 4:51 AM Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
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> Michael;
> It is also critical that the liners protrude above the block by .005 to
> .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This is before any compression of th=
e figure 8
> gaskets.  If the protrusion is less, the top of the block should be mille=
d
> to achieve the proper protrusion.
> If you have milled the head more than about .060 you should consider
> staking the head around the bores between cylinders two and three per the
> Kastner book. It is weak in this area.
> The rest of the advice you=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but I hav=
e not
> tried all of it.
> Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the head and what you have do=
ne with
> the combustion chambers, you may need to reshape the fire ring area of yo=
ur
> gasket. It must not protrude at all into the combustion chamber.
> Phil
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about Cometic.
> I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the stock head
> gasket.  I built the engine as I would have built one of my race engines =
in
> the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (10.5:1).  From da=
y
> 1 it never really ran right.  I began to suspect coolant was getting into
> the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull
> some coolant out while the engine is running and add a chemical which tes=
ts
> for hydrocarbons.  Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant
> system.  That says bad head gasket or crack in the head.  Since I'd had t=
he
> head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket.
>
> I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.  A guy at a
> local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.  I had
> never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so
> surely they would not make a gasket for it.  He encouraged me to check th=
e
> internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR
> engine.  It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for
> different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order differe=
nt
> thicknesses.  They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to t=
he
> thickness desired.  I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.  It all sounded a
> little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had received, I
> ordered one.
>
> I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, an=
d
> suddenly the engine ran great.  I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car
> since then and haven't had a problem.  It runs cool (even on 95 degree
> days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks=
.
> By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement.  I
> also used that.  A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick.  Do
> not spray a thick coat.  Below is the link to the Cometic web site.  Chec=
k
> it out.
>
> Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure <https://www.cometic.com/>
>
> Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of
> motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Au...
> <https://www.cometic.com/>
> Jack
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 31, 2020, 5:27:49 PM EDT, mleccese1--- via Fot <
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I read a couple of people talking about milling the block =
deck.=C2=A0 I have seen two blocks that were milled, one on a club member&#=
39;s car that had head gasket issues and another on a block I was checking =
to build a race engine. No doubt that both had been milled with the block f=
lat on the milling table. With liners in place, boring plate installed, the=
 deck surface was off by 2 thousands side to side. Not=C2=A0very head=C2=A0=
gasket friendly. I did some measuring and realized that the figure 8 surfac=
e was also off by the same amount. Both could have been the result of slopp=
y machine work but I came to the conclusion that the factory block deck and=
 figure eight machining was done at the same time. I haven&#39;t yet decked=
 a block=C2=A0but if I did I would measure the figure 8 surface relative to=
 the deck first. YMMV.<div><br><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</di=
v></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 4:51 AM Phil Gott via =
Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"auto">Michael;<div>It is also critical that the liners protrude above the =
block by .005 to .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This is before any co=
mpression of the figure 8 gaskets.=C2=A0 If the protrusion is less, the top=
 of the block should be milled to achieve the proper protrusion.</div><div>=
If you have milled the head more than about .060 you should consider stakin=
g the head around the bores between cylinders two and three per the Kastner=
 book. It is weak in this area.</div><div>The rest of the advice you=E2=80=
=99ve received is pretty sound, but I have not tried all of it.</div><div>D=
epending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the head and what you have done =
with the combustion chambers, you may need to reshape the fire ring area of=
 your gasket. It must not protrude at all into the combustion chamber.</div=
><div>Phil<br><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Jack Wheel=
er via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica =
Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite>I&#39;ve read all of the comments, but=
 haven&#39;t heard anything about Cometic.=C2=A0 I had rebuilt my TR-3 engi=
ne a number of years ago, using the stock head gasket.=C2=A0 I built the en=
gine as I would have built one of my race engines in the day, except with a=
 milder cam and less compression (10.5:1).=C2=A0 From day 1 it never really=
 ran right.=C2=A0 I began to suspect coolant was getting into the combustio=
n chamber, so I bought one of those test kits where you pull some coolant o=
ut while the engine is running and add a chemical which tests for hydrocarb=
ons.=C2=A0 Sure enough, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system.=
=C2=A0 That says bad head gasket or crack in the head.=C2=A0 Since I&#39;d =
had the head magnafluxed during the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gask=
et.</cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite><br></cite></span></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite>I began asking around about where I could get=
 a good gasket.=C2=A0 A guy at a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines)=
 recommended Cometic.=C2=A0 I had never heard of them, and told him the eng=
ine was over 50 years old, so surely they would not make a gasket for it.=
=C2=A0 He encouraged me to check the internet, and sure enough, they make a=
 whole bunch of them for the TR engine.=C2=A0 It&#39;s been a few years ago=
, but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 8=
7MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses.=C2=A0 They stacked st=
eel gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired.=C2=A0 I t=
hink I ordered a 3 layer gasket.=C2=A0 It all sounded a little fishy, but b=
ased on the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one.</cite></sp=
an></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite><br></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><span><cite>I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Come=
tic gasket, and suddenly the engine ran great.=C2=A0 I have put almost 7.00=
0 miles on the car since then and haven&#39;t had a problem.=C2=A0 It runs =
cool (even on 95 degree days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sig=
n of any coolant leaks.=C2=A0 By the way, I noticed someone else recommende=
d Hylomar gasket cement.=C2=A0 I also used that.=C2=A0 A light coat on all =
sealing surfaces does the trick.=C2=A0 Do not spray a thick coat.=C2=A0 Bel=
ow is the link to the Cometic web site.=C2=A0 Check it out.<br></cite></spa=
n></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite><br></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><a href=3D"https://www.cometic.com/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure</a></div><div><br></div><div=
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Segoe UI&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><a href=3D"https://www.cometic.c=
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<div><font size=3D"2">I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at=
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