Subject: Re: [Fot] SU HS6 problems during hard braking

From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:15:43 -0400

Jason;
What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, although a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than that could be causing you some of this problem.
Phil Gott

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> On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Hello FOT,
>      Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.  I've sorted the braking system and installed new tires since the last time out.  Now that I'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering from what seems to be fuel flooding, possible sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet into the intake...
> 
> During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes completely "off" and I can smell raw fuel.  After a few seconds it clears out and runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of over rich or starving for fuel. Starts normally, no issues idling.
> 
> Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8" below the top of the jet.  By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the problem has somewhat improved, but it's still significant.  Every session I adjust them a little further, but I'm not sure this is the right fix...maybe a band aid.
> 
> Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs?  
> 
> Jason Sukey
> 
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From: Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:17:43 -0400

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Phil, I'm running 2 psi.  My fuel pressure gauge stays consistent during
the entire run.

Thanks,
Jason

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:15 PM Phil Gott <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Jason;
> What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi,
> although a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More
> than that could be causing you some of this problem.
> Phil Gott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> >      Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.  I've sorted the
> braking system and installed new tires since the last time out.  Now that
> I'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering from what seems to be fuel
> flooding, possible sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet into
> the intake...
> >
> > During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes
> completely "off" and I can smell raw fuel.  After a few seconds it clears
> out and runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of over rich or
> starving for fuel. Starts normally, no issues idling.
> >
> > Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8" below the top of the
> jet.  By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the problem has
> somewhat improved, but it's still significant.  Every session I adjust them
> a little further, but I'm not sure this is the right fix...maybe a band aid.
> >
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<div dir=3D"auto">Phil, I&#39;m running 2 psi.=C2=A0 My fuel pressure gauge=
 stays consistent during the entire run.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"auto">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019=
, 9:15 PM Phil Gott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jason;<br>
What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, altho=
ugh a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than th=
at could be causing you some of this problem.<br>
Phil Gott<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hello FOT,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.=
=C2=A0 I&#39;ve sorted the braking system and installed new tires since the=
 last time out.=C2=A0 Now that I&#39;m actually able to brake hard, I&#39;m=
 suffering from what seems to be fuel flooding, possible sloshing in the fl=
oat bowls and dumping out the jet into the intake...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes comp=
letely &quot;off&quot; and I can smell raw fuel.=C2=A0 After a few seconds =
it clears out and runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of ove=
r rich or starving for fuel. Starts normally, no issues idling.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8&quot; below the top of=
 the jet.=C2=A0 By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the pro=
blem has somewhat improved, but it&#39;s still significant.=C2=A0 Every ses=
sion I adjust them a little further, but I&#39;m not sure this is the right=
 fix...maybe a band aid.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs?=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jason Sukey<br>
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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 20:28:59 -0500

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What is the orientation of the pivot on the floats? =20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>=20
> Phil, I'm running 2 psi.  My fuel pressure gauge stays consistent during t=
he entire run.
>=20
>=20
>> What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, alt=
hough a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than t=
hat could be causing you some of this problem.
>> Phil Gott
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>> > On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>> >=20
>> > Hello FOT,
>> >      Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.  I've sorted th=
e braking system and installed new tires since the last time out.  Now that I=
'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering from what seems to be fuel flo=
oding, possible sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet into the=
 intake...
>> >=20
>> > During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes compl=
etely "off" and I can smell raw fuel.  After a few seconds it clears out and=
 runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of over rich or starving=
 for fuel. Starts normally, no issues idling.
>> >=20
>> > Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8" below the top of the j=
et.  By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the problem has som=
ewhat improved, but it's still significant.  Every session I adjust them a l=
ittle further, but I'm not sure this is the right fix...maybe a band aid.
>> >=20
>> > Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs? =20
>> >=20
>> > Jason Sukey
>> >=20
>> >=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">What is the orientation of the pivot on the floats? &nbsp;<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Phil, I'm running 2 psi.&nbsp; My fuel pressure gauge stays consistent during the entire run.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks,</div><div dir="auto">Jason</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:15 PM Phil Gott &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jason;<br>
What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, although a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than that could be causing you some of this problem.<br>
Phil Gott<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hello FOT,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.&nbsp; I've sorted the braking system and installed new tires since the last time out.&nbsp; Now that I'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering from what seems to be fuel flooding, possible sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet into the intake...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes completely "off" and I can smell raw fuel.&nbsp; After a few seconds it clears out and runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of over rich or starving for fuel. Starts normally, no issues idling.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8" below the top of the jet.&nbsp; By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the problem has somewhat improved, but it's still significant.&nbsp; Every session I adjust them a little further, but I'm not sure this is the right fix...maybe a band aid.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs?&nbsp; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jason Sukey<br>
&gt; <br>
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From: Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:37:05 -0400

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The floats pivot so the swing front to back.   On the rear carb the pivot
pin is nearest the firewall, on the front carb the pivot pin is nearest the
radiator.

Thanks,
Jason

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:29 PM Greg Blake <[email-masked]> wrote:

> What is the orientation of the pivot on the floats?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> >      Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.  I've sorted
>> the braking system and installed new tires since the last time out.  Now
>> that I'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering from what seems to be
>> fuel flooding, possible sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet
>> into the intake...
>> >
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<div dir=3D"auto">The floats pivot so the swing front to back.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
On the rear carb the pivot pin is nearest the firewall, on the front carb t=
he pivot pin is nearest the radiator.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9=
:29 PM Greg Blake &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">gblake58tr3=
@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto">What is the orientation of the pivot on the floats? =C2=A0<br><br=
><div id=3D"m_-3378539813793621208AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from=
 my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Suk=
ey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto">Phil, I&#39;m running 2 ps=
i.=C2=A0 My fuel pressure gauge stays consistent during the entire run.<div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Ja=
son</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:15 PM Phil Gott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vfra=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jason;<br>
What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, altho=
ugh a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than th=
at could be causing you some of this problem.<br>
Phil Gott<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hello FOT,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.=
=C2=A0 I&#39;ve sorted the braking system and installed new tires since the=
 last time out.=C2=A0 Now that I&#39;m actually able to brake hard, I&#39;m=
 suffering from what seems to be fuel flooding, possible sloshing in the fl=
oat bowls and dumping out the jet into the intake...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes comp=
letely &quot;off&quot; and I can smell raw fuel.=C2=A0 After a few seconds =
it clears out and runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of ove=
r rich or starving for fuel. Starts normally, no issues idling.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8&quot; below the top of=
 the jet.=C2=A0 By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the pro=
blem has somewhat improved, but it&#39;s still significant.=C2=A0 Every ses=
sion I adjust them a little further, but I&#39;m not sure this is the right=
 fix...maybe a band aid.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs?=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jason Sukey<br>
&gt; <br>
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From: Terry Stetler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 02:54:35 +0000

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Jason, it=92s been a while since I laid eyes on a GT6 engine, so forgive me=
.  Are both float chambers on the same side of the carbs?  Or is the rear o=
ne to the outside rear of the carb and the front one to the outside pointin=
g to the front of the car?  Or vice versa?   Sounds like under braking the =
carb with the fuel channel to the jet that pointing to the front of the car=
 is getting a higher fuel level and thus flooding that carb.  Is it possibl=
e to rotate that float bowl to the other side?

Terry Stetler.

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To: Greg Blake
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Subject: Re: [Fot] SU HS6 problems during hard braking

The floats pivot so the swing front to back.   On the rear carb the pivot p=
in is nearest the firewall, on the front carb the pivot pin is nearest the =
radiator.

Thanks,
Jason

[email-masked]>> wrote:
What is the orientation of the pivot on the floats?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]<mailto=
:[email-masked]>> wrote:

Phil, I'm running 2 psi.  My fuel pressure gauge stays consistent during th=
e entire run.

Thanks,
Jason

ol.com>> wrote:
Jason;
What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, altho=
ugh a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than th=
at could be causing you some of this problem.
Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]<mail=
to:[email-masked]>> wrote:
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> Hello FOT,
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he intake...
>
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runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of over rich or starving=
 for fuel. Starts normally, no issues idling.
>
> Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8" below the top of the jet=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jason, it=92s been a while since I laid eyes on a GT=
6 engine, so forgive me.&nbsp; Are both float chambers on the same side of =
the carbs?&nbsp; Or is the rear one to the outside rear of the carb and the=
 front one to the outside pointing to the front
 of the car?&nbsp; Or vice versa?&nbsp;&nbsp; Sounds like under braking the=
 carb with the fuel channel to the jet that pointing to the front of the ca=
r is getting a higher fuel level and thus flooding that carb.&nbsp; Is it p=
ossible to rotate that float bowl to the other side?</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Terry Stetler.</p>
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t;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 13, 2019 9:37:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Blake<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] SU HS6 problems during hard braking</font>
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<div dir=3D"auto">The floats pivot so the swing front to back.&nbsp; &nbsp;=
On the rear carb the pivot pin is nearest the firewall, on the front carb t=
he pivot pin is nearest the radiator.
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:29 PM Greg Bl=
ake &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"auto">What is the orientation of the pivot on the floats? &nbsp=
;<br>
<br>
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On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@=
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<div dir=3D"auto">Phil, I'm running 2 psi.&nbsp; My fuel pressure gauge sta=
ys consistent during the entire run.
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:15 PM Phil Go=
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Jason;<br>
What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, altho=
ugh a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than th=
at could be causing you some of this problem.<br>
Phil Gott<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hello FOT,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.=
&nbsp; I've sorted the braking system and installed new tires since the las=
t time out.&nbsp; Now that I'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering f=
rom what seems to be fuel flooding, possible sloshing in the
 float bowls and dumping out the jet into the intake...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes comp=
letely &quot;off&quot; and I can smell raw fuel.&nbsp; After a few seconds =
it clears out and runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of ove=
r rich or starving for fuel. Starts normally, no issues
 idling.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8&quot; below the top of=
 the jet.&nbsp; By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the pro=
blem has somewhat improved, but it's still significant.&nbsp; Every session=
 I adjust them a little further, but I'm not sure
 this is the right fix...maybe a band aid.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs?&nbsp; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jason Sukey<br>
&gt; <br>
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We experienced this, but getting the pivots in the orientation you have 
them was the fix for us (in a TR-4).  You can try a different top 
orientation though, assuming you have the float bowls with the 3 
screws.  The front carb is likely the problem - under braking the fuel 
goes to the front so the float drops.  As soon as you stop braking the 
float bowl is overfull.

Regards, Tony

On 7/13/2019 8:37 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot wrote:
> The floats pivot so the swing front to back.   On the rear carb the 
> pivot pin is nearest the firewall, on the front carb the pivot pin is 
> nearest the radiator.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:29 PM Greg Blake <[email-masked] 
>
>     On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot
>
>>     Phil, I'm running 2 psi.  My fuel pressure gauge stays consistent
>>     during the entire run.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Jason
>>
>>     On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:15 PM Phil Gott <[email-masked]
>>
>>         Jason;
>>         What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2
>>         to 3 psi, although a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no
>>         apparent ill effect. More than that could be causing you some
>>         of this problem.
>>         Phil Gott
>>
>>         Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>         > On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot
>>         >
>>         > Hello FOT,
>>         >      Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend. 
>>         I've sorted the braking system and installed new tires since
>>         the last time out.  Now that I'm actually able to brake hard,
>>         I'm suffering from what seems to be fuel flooding, possible
>>         sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet into the
>>         intake...
>>         >
>>         > During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the
>>         engine goes completely "off" and I can smell raw fuel.  After
>>         a few seconds it clears out and runs strong in all other
>>         conditions, no indication of over rich or starving for fuel.
>>         Starts normally, no issues idling.
>>         >
>>         > Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8" below the
>>         top of the jet.  By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from
>>         there, the problem has somewhat improved, but it's still
>>         significant. Every session I adjust them a little further,
>>         but I'm not sure this is the right fix...maybe a band aid.
>>         >
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    <p>We experienced this, but getting the pivots in the orientation
      you have them was the fix for us (in a TR-4).  You can try a
      different top orientation though, assuming you have the float
      bowls with the 3 screws.  The front carb is likely the problem -
      under braking the fuel goes to the front so the float drops.  As
      soon as you stop braking the float bowl is overfull.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/13/2019 8:37 PM, Jason Sukey via
      Fot wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAMmo4o_jpRJoTD-5=[email-masked]">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <div dir="auto">The floats pivot so the swing front to back.   On
        the rear carb the pivot pin is nearest the firewall, on the
        front carb the pivot pin is nearest the radiator.
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">Thanks,</div>
        <div dir="auto">Jason</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:29 PM
          Greg Blake &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
            moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="auto">What is the orientation of the pivot on the
            floats?  <br>
            <br>
            <div id="m_-3378539813793621208AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent
              from my iPhone</div>
            <div dir="ltr"><br>
              On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a
                href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
              <br>
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              <div dir="ltr">
                <div dir="auto">Phil, I'm running 2 psi.  My fuel
                  pressure gauge stays consistent during the entire run.
                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div dir="auto">Thanks,</div>
                  <div dir="auto">Jason</div>
                </div>
                <br>
                <div class="gmail_quote">
                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13,
                    2019, 9:15 PM Phil Gott &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                      rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jason;<br>
                    What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should
                    be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, although a Spitfire driver and I
                    run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than that
                    could be causing you some of this problem.<br>
                    Phil Gott<br>
                    <br>
                    Sent from my iPhone<br>
                    <br>
                    &gt; On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via
                    Fot &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; Hello FOT,<br>
                    &gt;      Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this
                    weekend.  I've sorted the braking system and
                    installed new tires since the last time out.  Now
                    that I'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering
                    from what seems to be fuel flooding, possible
                    sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet
                    into the intake...<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; During and immediately after a hard braking
                    zone, the engine goes completely "off" and I can
                    smell raw fuel.  After a few seconds it clears out
                    and runs strong in all other conditions, no
                    indication of over rich or starving for fuel. Starts
                    normally, no issues idling.<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; Original fuel level in the floats was about
                    1/8" below the top of the jet.  By reducing the fuel
                    level in the bowls from there, the problem has
                    somewhat improved, but it's still significant. 
                    Every session I adjust them a little further, but
                    I'm not sure this is the right fix...maybe a band
                    aid.<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs? 
                    <br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; Jason Sukey<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; <br>
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Probably not related but the brass floats can develop a pinhole leak. It pro=
bably sinks and stays on the bottom=20

~Steve

> On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
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>=20
> We experienced this, but getting the pivots in the orientation you have th=
em was the fix for us (in a TR-4).  You can try a different top orientation t=
hough, assuming you have the float bowls with the 3 screws.  The front carb i=
s likely the problem - under braking the fuel goes to the front so the float=
 drops.  As soon as you stop braking the float bowl is overfull.
>> The floats pivot so the swing front to back.   On the rear carb the pivot=
 pin is nearest the firewall, on the front carb the pivot pin is nearest the=
 radiator.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Jason
>>=20
>>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:29 PM Greg Blake <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>>> On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]> wr=
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>>>=20
>>>> Phil, I'm running 2 psi.  My fuel pressure gauge stays consistent durin=
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>>>>> What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, a=
lthough a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than=
 that could be causing you some of this problem.
>>>>> Phil Gott
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>=20
>>>>> > On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <[email-masked]=
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>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Hello FOT,
>>>>> >      Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.  I've sorted=
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at I'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering from what seems to be fuel=
 flooding, possible sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet into=
 the intake...
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes co=
mpletely "off" and I can smell raw fuel.  After a few seconds it clears out a=
nd runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of over rich or starvi=
ng for fuel. Starts normally, no issues idling.
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8" below the top of th=
e jet.  By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the problem has s=
omewhat improved, but it's still significant.  Every session I adjust them a=
 little further, but I'm not sure this is the right fix...maybe a band aid.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Probably not related but the brass floats can develop a pinhole leak. It probably sinks and stays on the bottom&nbsp;<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">~Steve<div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Tony Drews via Fot &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">

    <p>We experienced this, but getting the pivots in the orientation
      you have them was the fix for us (in a TR-4).&nbsp; You can try a
      different top orientation though, assuming you have the float
      bowls with the 3 screws.&nbsp; The front carb is likely the problem -
      under braking the fuel goes to the front so the float drops.&nbsp; As
      soon as you stop braking the float bowl is overfull.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/13/2019 8:37 PM, Jason Sukey via
      Fot wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAMmo4o_jpRJoTD-5=[email-masked]">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <div dir="auto">The floats pivot so the swing front to back.&nbsp; &nbsp;On
        the rear carb the pivot pin is nearest the firewall, on the
        front carb the pivot pin is nearest the radiator.
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">Thanks,</div>
        <div dir="auto">Jason</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:29 PM
          Greg Blake &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="auto">What is the orientation of the pivot on the
            floats? &nbsp;<br>
            <br>
            <div id="m_-3378539813793621208AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent
              from my iPhone</div>
            <div dir="ltr"><br>
              On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
              <br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div dir="auto">Phil, I'm running 2 psi.&nbsp; My fuel
                  pressure gauge stays consistent during the entire run.
                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div dir="auto">Thanks,</div>
                  <div dir="auto">Jason</div>
                </div>
                <br>
                <div class="gmail_quote">
                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13,
                    2019, 9:15 PM Phil Gott &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jason;<br>
                    What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should
                    be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, although a Spitfire driver and I
                    run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than that
                    could be causing you some of this problem.<br>
                    Phil Gott<br>
                    <br>
                    Sent from my iPhone<br>
                    <br>
                    &gt; On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via
                    Fot &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; Hello FOT,<br>
                    &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this
                    weekend.&nbsp; I've sorted the braking system and
                    installed new tires since the last time out.&nbsp; Now
                    that I'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering
                    from what seems to be fuel flooding, possible
                    sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet
                    into the intake...<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; During and immediately after a hard braking
                    zone, the engine goes completely "off" and I can
                    smell raw fuel.&nbsp; After a few seconds it clears out
                    and runs strong in all other conditions, no
                    indication of over rich or starving for fuel. Starts
                    normally, no issues idling.<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; Original fuel level in the floats was about
                    1/8" below the top of the jet.&nbsp; By reducing the fuel
                    level in the bowls from there, the problem has
                    somewhat improved, but it's still significant.&nbsp;
                    Every session I adjust them a little further, but
                    I'm not sure this is the right fix...maybe a band
                    aid.<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs?&nbsp;
                    <br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; Jason Sukey<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; <br>
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Jason, I once had a similar problem. I swore it was flooding, but in the end it was a loose coupling of the fuel line onto the tank : at every braking zone, the line was forced forward and thus air was sucked in the line and into the fuel pump. Every time,it took a few seconds for the pump to make pressure again. Another possibility : the fuel line can be crushed somewhere i.e. by the engine when it is moving forward under braking. 
Marcel. 

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Verzonden: Zondag 14 juli 2019 05:09:16 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] SU HS6 problems during hard braking 

We experienced this, but getting the pivots in the orientation you have them was the fix for us (in a TR-4). You can try a different top orientation though, assuming you have the float bowls with the 3 screws. The front carb is likely the problem - under braking the fuel goes to the front so the float drops. As soon as you stop braking the float bowl is overfull. 

Regards, Tony 

The floats pivot so the swing front to back. On the rear carb the pivot pin is nearest the firewall, on the front carb the pivot pin is nearest the radiator. 

Thanks, 
Jason 

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Phil, I'm running 2 psi. My fuel pressure gauge stays consistent during the entire run. 

Thanks, 
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>Jason, I once had a=
 similar problem. I swore it was flooding, but in the end it was a loose co=
upling of the fuel line onto the tank : at every braking zone, the line was=
 forced forward and thus air was sucked in the line and into the fuel pump.=
 Every time,it took a few seconds for the pump to make pressure again. Anot=
her possibility : the fuel line can be crushed somewhere i.e. by the engine=
 when it is moving forward under braking.</div><div>Marcel.</div><hr id=3D"=
zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van:=
 </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Jason Sukey" &lt;jsuk=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Verzo=
nden: </b>Zondag 14 juli 2019 05:09:16<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] SU HS=
6 problems during hard braking<br></div><br><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TE=
XT__"><p>We experienced this, but getting the pivots in the orientation
      you have them was the fix for us (in a TR-4).&nbsp; You can try a
      different top orientation though, assuming you have the float
      bowls with the 3 screws.&nbsp; The front carb is likely the problem -
      under braking the fuel goes to the front so the float drops.&nbsp; As
      soon as you stop braking the float bowl is overfull.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony<br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 7/13/2019 8:37 PM, Jason Sukey via
      Fot wrote:<br>
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      <div dir=3D"auto">The floats pivot so the swing front to back.&nbsp; =
&nbsp;On
        the rear carb the pivot pin is nearest the firewall, on the
        front carb the pivot pin is nearest the radiator.
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:29 PM
          Greg Blake &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir=3D"auto">What is the orientation of the pivot on the
            floats? &nbsp;<br>
            <br>
            <div id=3D"m_-3378539813793621208AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr=
">Sent
              from my iPhone</div>
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              On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=
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              <div dir=3D"ltr">
                <div dir=3D"auto">Phil, I'm running 2 psi.&nbsp; My fuel
                  pressure gauge stays consistent during the entire run.
                  <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,</div>
                  <div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div>
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                  <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13,
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                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jason=
;<br>
                    What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should
                    be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, although a Spitfire driver and I
                    run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than that
                    could be causing you some of this problem.<br>
                    Phil Gott<br>
                    <br>
                    Sent from my iPhone<br>
                    <br>
                    &gt; On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via
                    Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"no=
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                    &gt; Hello FOT,<br>
                    &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Running my GT6 at the PVGP his=
torics this
                    weekend.&nbsp; I've sorted the braking system and
                    installed new tires since the last time out.&nbsp; Now
                    that I'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering
                    from what seems to be fuel flooding, possible
                    sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet
                    into the intake...<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; During and immediately after a hard braking
                    zone, the engine goes completely "off" and I can
                    smell raw fuel.&nbsp; After a few seconds it clears out
                    and runs strong in all other conditions, no
                    indication of over rich or starving for fuel. Starts
                    normally, no issues idling.<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; Original fuel level in the floats was about
                    1/8" below the top of the jet.&nbsp; By reducing the fu=
el
                    level in the bowls from there, the problem has
                    somewhat improved, but it's still significant.&nbsp;
                    Every session I adjust them a little further, but
                    I'm not sure this is the right fix...maybe a band
                    aid.<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs?&nbs=
p;
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                    &gt; Jason Sukey<br>
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Thanks for all the advice on my carburetor issues.  I checked all the vent
tubes for blockage and needle valves for sticking, all is well there.
Today i tried rotating the rear float lid 120 degrees.  This fixed the
flooding during hard braking 100%.... Now it floods out turning left.  I'm
fairly certain that i can fix it all once i swap the rear float cover to
one that has the ideal orientation (to match what i currently have on the
front).  Front carb has the pivot swing front to rear with the pivot pin at
the front of the car.

Jason

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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks for all the advice on my carburetor issues.=C2=A0 =
I checked all the vent tubes for blockage and needle valves for sticking, a=
ll is well there.<div dir=3D"auto">Today i tried rotating the rear float li=
d 120 degrees.=C2=A0 This fixed the flooding during hard braking 100%.... N=
ow it floods out turning left.=C2=A0 I&#39;m fairly certain that i can fix =
it all once i swap the rear float cover to one that has the ideal orientati=
on (to match what i currently have on the front).=C2=A0 Front carb has the =
pivot swing front to rear with the pivot pin at the front of the car.</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div><div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 8:57 PM Jason S=
ukey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello FOT,<div>=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.=C2=
=A0 I&#39;ve sorted the braking system and installed new tires since the la=
st time out.=C2=A0 Now that I&#39;m actually able to brake hard, I&#39;m su=
ffering from what seems to be fuel flooding, possible sloshing in the float=
 bowls and dumping out the jet into the intake...</div><div><br></div><div>=
During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes completel=
y &quot;off&quot; and I can smell raw fuel.=C2=A0 After a few seconds it cl=
ears out and runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of over ric=
h or starving for fuel. Starts normally, no issues idling.</div><div><br></=
div><div>Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8&quot; below the to=
p of the jet.=C2=A0 By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the=
 problem has somewhat improved, but it&#39;s still significant.=C2=A0 Every=
 session I adjust them a little further, but I&#39;m not sure this is the r=
ight fix...maybe a band aid.</div><div><br></div><div>Has anyone experience=
d this with the HS carbs?=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Jason Sukey<=
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