Subject: Re: [Fot] Bellhousing info

From: Mark J Bradakis via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 17:27:18 -0600

I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.

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From: Brian Dennis via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 09:25:55 +0000 (UTC)

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The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the abov=
e. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6=
 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory=
 plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 =
box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least al=
l that I have seen.=C2=A0
Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 ar=
e on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on th=
e four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plat=
es they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra b=
olt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder.=C2=A0

This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.Brian

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:

I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500=20
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.

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The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the abov=
e. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6=
 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory=
 plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 =
box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least al=
l that I have seen.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Regarding the Spitfire: the st=
arter is on the left side vs the tr6 &amp; gt6 are on the right. Therefore =
the six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Bet=
ween the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on h=
owever I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the ear=
ly 4 cylinder.&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div>This is all from memory. Hope i=
t is helpful.</div><div>Brian<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.y=
ahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br><p class=
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op: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradaki=
s via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymai=
l"><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later =
Spitfire <a dir=3D"ltr" href=3D"tel:12961500" x-apple-data-detectors=3D"tru=
e" x-apple-data-detectors-type=3D"telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result=
=3D"1">12961500</a> <br clear=3D"none">block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.<br =
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From: Joe Alexander via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 06:16:31 -0500

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The TR6 and the GT6 plates are not the same....at least not as we manufactur=
e them in Iowa. We have two part numbers.

I was unaware that the TR6 plate would bolt onto the later Spitfires.

Perhaps some can summarize the potential interchanges?

In the mean time, I had inquiries for a FOT Prices. Good for a week.  Here=E2=
=80=99s your chance. We=E2=80=99ve sold a few plates for Conversions, but di=
dn=E2=80=99t realize there was that much interest.

GT6.  Rear Plate.  $75 plus shipping
TR6.  Rear Plate.   $75 plus shipping
Spit.   Rear Plate.  $65 plus shipping

TR3.  Front Plate.  $125 plus shipping
TR4.  Front Plate.  $125 plus shipping
Morgan                      $115 plus shipping=20
TR6/GT6.                  $ 60 plus shipping

Big Discount. And all in stock.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711

> On May 31, 2019, at 4:25 AM, Brian Dennis via Fot <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
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> The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the abo=
ve. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6=
 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory p=
late. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box=
. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all th=
at I have seen.=20
>=20
> Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 a=
re on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on th=
e four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plate=
s they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bol=
t hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder.=20
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m.net> wrote:
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">The TR6 and the GT6 plates are not the same=
....at least not as we manufacture them in Iowa. We have two part numbers.<d=
iv><br></div><div>I was unaware that the TR6 plate would bolt onto the later=
 Spitfires.</div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps some can summarize the potentia=
l interchanges?</div><div><br></div><div>In the mean time, I had inquiries f=
or a FOT Prices. Good for a week. &nbsp;Here=E2=80=99s your chance. We=E2=80=
=99ve sold a few plates for Conversions, but didn=E2=80=99t realize there wa=
s that much interest.</div><div><br></div><div>GT6. &nbsp;Rear Plate. &nbsp;=
$75 plus shipping</div><div>TR6. &nbsp;Rear Plate. &nbsp; $75 plus shipping<=
/div><div>Spit. &nbsp; Rear Plate. &nbsp;$65 plus shipping</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>TR3. &nbsp;Front Plate. &nbsp;$125 plus shipping</div><div>TR4. &nbs=
p;Front Plate. &nbsp;$125 plus shipping</div><div>Morgan &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;$115 plus shipping&=
nbsp;</div><div>TR6/GT6. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp;$ 60 plus shipping</div><div><br></div><div>Big Discount. And all=
 in stock.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div><br><br=
><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Joe Alexander<div>4505 Donald Dr=
</div><div>Cedar Falls, IA 50613</div><div><a href=3D"http://The-vintage-rac=
er.com">The-vintage-racer.com</a></div><div><a href=3D"http://Gasketinnovati=
ons.com">Gasketinnovations.com</a></div><div>Cell: &nbsp;319.464.4711</div><=
div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On May 31, 2019, at 4:25 AM, Brian D=
ennis via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><!--[i=
f gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96=
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The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the above=
. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6 b=
ox into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory pl=
ate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box.=
 The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all tha=
t I have seen.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Regarding the Spitfire: the starter i=
s on the left side vs the tr6 &amp; gt6 are on the right. Therefore the six c=
ylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Between the e=
arly and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on however I be=
lieve the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinde=
r.&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div>This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.=
</div><div>Brian<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=
=3DiOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-=
begin" style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-t=
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ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p><block=
quote class=3D"iosymail"><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe that the TR6 plate will b=
olt up to the later Spitfire <a dir=3D"ltr" href=3D"tel:12961500" x-apple-da=
ta-detectors=3D"true" x-apple-data-detectors-type=3D"telephone" x-apple-data=
-detectors-result=3D"1">12961500</a> <br clear=3D"none">block, not the 1147/=
1296 blocks.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">mjb.<div class=3D"yqt62920=
03966" id=3D"yqtfd80939"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
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I have a TR6 box in my GT6.  The only difference between the gearboxes =
is two extra flange bolts on the Tr6 bellhousing, for which holes can =
easily be drilled on the plate.  the rear of the engine block is =
identical and the  plate bolts right up as the blocks are essentially =
the same (a bit more block stiffening in sides of the later TR6 blocks, =
I think).  Starter lines right up on the same flywheel.
Can=E2=80=99t speak for Spitfire.

On May 31, 2019, at 5:25 AM, Brian Dennis via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the =
above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing =
the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on =
the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor =
with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the =
same. At least all that I have seen.=20

Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 =
are on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work =
on the four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder =
engine plates they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates =
have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder.=20

This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.
Brian

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I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 =
<tel:12961500>=20
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
have a TR6 box in my GT6. &nbsp;The only difference between the =
gearboxes is two extra flange bolts on the Tr6 bellhousing, for which =
holes can easily be drilled on the plate. &nbsp;the rear of the engine =
block is identical and the &nbsp;plate bolts right up as the blocks are =
essentially the same (a bit more block stiffening in sides of the later =
TR6 blocks, I think). &nbsp;Starter lines right up on the same =
flywheel.<div class=3D"">Can=E2=80=99t speak for Spitfire.<br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">On May 31, 2019, at 5:25 =
AM, Brian Dennis via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:Pixe=
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The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the =
above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing =
the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on =
the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor =
with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the =
same. At least all that I have seen.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is =
on the left side vs the tr6 &amp; gt6 are on the right. Therefore the =
six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. =
Between the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all =
bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or =
two vs the early 4 cylinder.&nbsp;<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This is all from memory. Hope it is =
helpful.</div><div class=3D"">Brian<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS" =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
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believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire <a =
dir=3D"ltr" href=3D"tel:12961500" x-apple-data-detectors=3D"true" =
x-apple-data-detectors-type=3D"telephone" =
x-apple-data-detectors-result=3D"1" class=3D"">12961500</a> <br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">mjb.<div =
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