Subject: Re: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale

From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 20:37:08 +0000 (UTC)

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Amici...
I should say!!!=C2=A0 Maybe Chris will have some inside info for us at some=
 point..
I was always interested those TRS cars (especially the unique TR3S cars).=
=C2=A0 One discovered in an Illinois garage got away.=C2=A0 I think that is=
 the one The Roadster Factory has, and I think they paid around 15K way bac=
k then..
The Sabrinia engine was sexy, but notice it never made it into production.=
=C2=A0 There had to be a reason why it didn't.
Bill Dentinger

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From: Brad Eells via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: fot <[email-masked]>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 12:51 pm
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale

Amici,

Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up fo=
r sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original Sabrin=
a engines.

Would love to know the asking price...

Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.

A fun addition to any garage!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone
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<div>Amici...</div>

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<div>I should say!!!&nbsp; Maybe Chris will have some inside info for us at some point..</div>

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<div>I was always interested those TRS cars (especially the unique TR3S cars).&nbsp; One discovered in an Illinois garage got away.&nbsp; I think that is the one The Roadster Factory has, and I think they paid around 15K way back then..</div>

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<div>The Sabrinia engine was sexy, but notice it never made it into production.&nbsp; There had to be a reason why it didn't.</div>

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<div>Bill Dentinger</div>

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Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 12:51 pm<br>
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Amici,<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original Sabrina engines.<br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Would love to know the asking price...<br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.<br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">A fun addition to any garage!<br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">Brad Eells<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br>
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From: Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:41:49 -0500

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What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment Group,
sell 50 shares and buy one?  I volunteer to be the custodian of one of
them. I have the space and the skills.
Bob Kramer

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> Amici,
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> Sabrina engines.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS I=
nvestment Group, sell 50 shares and buy one?=C2=A0

I volunteer to be the custodian of one of them. I have the space and the sk=
ills.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bo=
b Kramer</div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:51 PM Brad Eells vi=
a Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Amici,<br=
<br>
Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up fo=
r sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original Sabrin=
a engines.<br>
<br>
Would love to know the asking price...<br>
<br>
Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.<br>
<br>
A fun addition to any garage!<br>
<br>
<br>
Brad Eells<br>
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Two classes of shares, one includes driving rights, one includes wrenching
and polishing? ;)

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Two classes of shares, one includes driving rights, one in=
cludes wrenching and polishing? ;)<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:43 PM Bob K=
ramer via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS In=
vestment Group, sell 50 shares and buy one?=C2=A0

I volunteer to be the custodian of one of them. I have the space and the sk=
ills.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail-m_-6514294884175735729gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Krame=
r</div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:51 PM Brad Eells via Fot &=
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n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
">Amici,<br>
<br>
Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up fo=
r sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original Sabrin=
a engines.<br>
<br>
Would love to know the asking price...<br>
<br>
Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.<br>
<br>
A fun addition to any garage!<br>
<br>
<br>
Brad Eells<br>
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From: Kas Kastner via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 13:57:14 -0700

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It was too big, too heavy, too complcicated, to expensive, other than those
things it was just right. Apparently no one noticed those items when the
specifications were being drawn up, nor noticed when the prototype was
built up.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:38 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot <[email-masked]>
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> Amici...
>
> I should say!!!  Maybe Chris will have some inside info for us at some
> point..
>
> I was always interested those TRS cars (especially the unique TR3S cars).
> One discovered in an Illinois garage got away.  I think that is the one The
> Roadster Factory has, and I think they paid around 15K way back then..
>
> The Sabrinia engine was sexy, but notice it never made it into
> production.  There had to be a reason why it didn't.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It was too big, too heavy, too complcicated, to expensive,=
 other than those things it was just right. Apparently no one noticed those=
 items when the specifications were being drawn up, nor noticed when the pr=
ototype was built up.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:3=
8 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
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b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Amici...</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>I should say!!!=C2=A0 Maybe Chris will have some inside info for us at=
 some point..</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>I was always interested those TRS cars (especially the unique TR3S car=
s).=C2=A0 One discovered in an Illinois garage got away.=C2=A0 I think that=
 is the one The Roadster Factory has, and I think they paid around 15K way =
back then..</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>The Sabrinia engine was sexy, but notice it never made it into product=
ion.=C2=A0 There had to be a reason why it didn&#39;t.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>
<br>

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Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 12:51 pm<br>
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Amici,<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned T=
RS cars are up for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with thei=
r original Sabrina engines.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Would love to know the asking price...<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if =
interested.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">A fun addition to any garage!<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br>
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From: Michael Porter via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:30:14 -0600

On 5/24/2019 2:57 PM, Kas Kastner via Fot wrote:
> It was too big, too heavy, too complcicated, to expensive, other than 
> those things it was just right. Apparently no one noticed those items 
> when the specifications were being drawn up, nor noticed when the 
> prototype was built up.
>
And, IIRC, the real kiss of death was that the aluminum castings were 
one-offs, and the metal, during casting, apparently did not receive 
proper degassing.  The result was a limited set of porous castings that 
wept oil and coolant when at working temperature, and the problem 
couldn't be solved by substituting parts, because they all had the same 
fault.

This is a problem with any small run of parts that don't receive 
adequate attention from the foundry.  I recall one model of Ferrari 
twelve-cylinder heads that did the same thing.  The cheap fix today is 
to inject the casting with a loose epoxy slurry under pressure and 
refinish all the surfaces.  The expensive one is to reproduce the 
castings using better methods.

Cheers.

-- 

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Roswell, NM

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From: Mark J Bradakis via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:13:28 -0600

On 5/24/19 2:41 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
> What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment 
> Group, sell 50 shares and buy one? I volunteer to be the custodian of 
> one of them. I have the space and the skills.
> Bob Kramer
>

Good idea!  I'll throw in ten bucks.  Then again, I just got a raise, 
I'll make it twenty!

mjb.

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I think mjb qualifies for a stock grant from the corporation.

> Good idea!  I'll throw in ten bucks.  Then again, I just got a raise,

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On 5/24/19 2:41 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:<br>
&gt; What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment <b=
r>
&gt; Group, sell 50 shares and buy one? I volunteer to be the custodian of =
<br>
&gt; one of them. I have the space and the skills.<br>
&gt; Bob Kramer<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
Good idea!=C2=A0 I&#39;ll throw in ten bucks.=C2=A0 Then again, I just got =
a raise, <br>
I&#39;ll make it twenty!<br>
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