Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

From: Mike Jackson via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:12:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00)

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<html><head><style type=3D"text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></he=
ad><body><div style=3D"font-size: 16px;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: ari=
al, sans-serif;">Yes, it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes=
, it was I) with my vintage TR3 in the&nbsp; SCCA race last weekend at Palm=
 Beach International Raceway.&nbsp; Here is a link to us on the grid for th=
e race<div>&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20=
the%20grid.jpg?dl=3D0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%2=
0grid.jpg?dl=3D0</a>&nbsp; And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.</div><=
div><br></div><div>I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National li=
cense for all those years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with=
 any car meeting the requirements of a class.&nbsp; I'd long held a desire =
to do so before I retired from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern ra=
ce car.</div><div><br></div><div>It had been a while since I'd driven my be=
autiful and well prepared TR3 (thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the u=
pcoming options to do so, most interfered with family travel plans for the =
summer.&nbsp; So, since this event was essentially in my back yard.....6 mi=
les from my driveway.....it was the perfect opportunity.&nbsp; For the prev=
ious month I sucked up to the Chief of Tech and the Race Chairman to let th=
e things that prevented my car from being fully EP legal slide for this one=
 time.&nbsp; That worked well and we slid thru registration and tech with n=
ot a flinch.</div><div><br></div><div>The next opportunity for it to go bad=
 was on the grid.&nbsp; But, as you can see in the pic, there I was next to=
 a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my friend and team mate Tim Slater.&nb=
sp; Then, I hold my breath for the first couple of laps wondering if the st=
ewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) would have me black flagged.=
&nbsp; They did not.</div><div><br></div><div>Here's the bottom line - ther=
e must be something to those flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/af=
ter market transmissions and on and on.&nbsp; Tim's yellow Spit quickly bec=
ame a dot ahead of me in spite of my lap times being in the range of what I=
 can turn on this same track in a vintage race.&nbsp; &nbsp;For a while I w=
as able to hold off the VW that was running last.&nbsp; But, even that didn=
t work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year friend and I eventually f=
inished dead f&amp;^ing last.&nbsp; Oh, well.</div><div><br></div><div>But,=
 I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like to a=
chieve.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Mike</div><div><blockquote sty=
le=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; =
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10pt; font-family: arial,sans-serif; color: black;"><[email-masked]>Sub=
ject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

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<div><font size=3D"2">I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scut=
tlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible e=
mbarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded ti=
res on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it=
 was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pie=
ces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it w=
as "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...<br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Glen<br>
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From: JOHN DAVIES via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 15:09:10 +0100 (BST)

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What?    You have to use slicks for your production/modded car racing?    J=
ust the opposite here in the UK - club racing, unless single seaters, uses =
treaded tyres, often Yokohamas with medium or soft tread.
Each to their own. =20
What are the regs for the Kastner Trophy?
John----Original message----
>From : [email-masked]
Date : 23/05/2019 - 14:31 (GMTST)
To : [email-masked], [email-masked], [email-masked]
Subject : Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
Bill Emory is smiling down on you Mike. For those of you who don=E2=80=99t =
know who=20
Bill Emory is / was; I=E2=80=99ll tell you a bit about him. He was a member=
 of the Steel=20
Cities SCCA and raced a TR3 for more than 40 years mostly at Nelson Ledges =
in=20
Ohio but at other regional tracks as well. I first met Bill in 1969 while=
=20
crewing for a friend who raced a TR4. There were parts on his car from Donn=
a Mae=20
Mimms pink TR3 which I believe Tim at Grassroots has as well as Bill=E2=80=
=99s TR3.=20
Somewhere there is an article about Bill in one of the Steel Cities newslet=
ters=20
who at one point honored him for his racing legend. Maybe someone has a lin=
k to=20
that article. So Mike good for you to honor those who went before you, Bill=
 was=20
one of many TR3 SCCA racers.
From: Mike=20
Jackson via Fot=20
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12 AM
To: fubog1 ; [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded=20
tires???
Yes,=20
it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vi=
ntage=20
TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International=20
Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race=20
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=3D0 =20
And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.
I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those=
=20
years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the=
=20
requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired=
=20
from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.
It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3=20
(thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most=
=20
interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event=
=20
was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the=
=20
perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of=20
Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from bei=
ng=20
fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru=
=20
registration and tech with not a flinch.
The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you=20
can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by=
 my=20
friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first=20
couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every e=
vent)=20
would have me black flagged.  They did not.
Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those=20
flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and =
on=20
and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my=
=20
lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vin=
tage=20
race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running=20
last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year=
=20
friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.
But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like=
=20
to achieve. =20
Mike
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???=20
 =20
 =20
 =20
I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt=20
  is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible=20
  embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded=
=20
  tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was tha=
t it=20
  was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
 =20
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of=20
  white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "o=
ff to=20
  the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...
 =20
 =20
Glen
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<div>What? &nbsp;&nbsp; You have to use slicks for your production/modded c=
ar racing? &nbsp;&nbsp; Just the opposite here in the UK - club racing, unl=
ess single seaters, uses treaded tyres, often Yokohamas with medium or soft=
 tread.</div><div>Each to their own. &nbsp;</div><div>What are the regs for=
 the Kastner Trophy?</div><div>John</div><blockquote style=3D"margin-right:=
 0px; margin-left:15px;">----Original message----<br>From : [email-masked].=
net<br>Date : 23/05/2019 - 14:31 (GMTST)<br>To : [email-masked], =
[email-masked], [email-masked]<br>Subject : Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-p=
rod TR-3 on treaded tires???<br><br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<div>Bill Emory is smiling down on you Mike. For those of you who don=E2=80=
=99t know who=20
Bill Emory is / was; I=E2=80=99ll tell you a bit about him. He was a member=
 of the Steel=20
Cities SCCA and raced a TR3 for more than 40 years mostly at Nelson Ledges =
in=20
Ohio but at other regional tracks as well. I first met Bill in 1969 while=
=20
crewing for a friend who raced a TR4. There were parts on his car from Donn=
a Mae=20
Mimms pink TR3 which I believe Tim at Grassroots has as well as Bill=E2=80=
=99s TR3.=20
Somewhere there is an article about Bill in one of the Steel Cities newslet=
ters=20
who at one point honored him for his racing legend. Maybe someone has a lin=
k to=20
that article. So Mike good for you to honor those who went before you, Bill=
 was=20
one of many TR3 SCCA racers.</div>
<div style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibr=
i"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inlin=
e'>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<div style=3D"font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]=
t">Mike=20
Jackson via Fot</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]">fubog1</a> ; <a title=3D"fot@Au=
tox.Team.Net">[email-masked]</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded=20
tires???</div></div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div></div>
<div style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibr=
i"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inlin=
e'>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0=
,0,0)">Yes,=20
it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vi=
ntage=20
TR3 in the&nbsp; SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International=20
Raceway.&nbsp; Here is a link to us on the grid for the race=20
<div>&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20=
grid.jpg?dl=3D0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.=
jpg?dl=3D0</a>&nbsp;=20
And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all =
those=20
years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the=
=20
requirements of a class.&nbsp; I'd long held a desire to do so before I ret=
ired=20
from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR=
3=20
(thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most=
=20
interfered with family travel plans for the summer.&nbsp; So, since this ev=
ent=20
was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the=
=20
perfect opportunity.&nbsp; For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief =
of=20
Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from bei=
ng=20
fully EP legal slide for this one time.&nbsp; That worked well and we slid =
thru=20
registration and tech with not a flinch.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.&nbsp; But, as y=
ou=20
can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by=
 my=20
friend and team mate Tim Slater.&nbsp; Then, I hold my breath for the first=
=20
couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every e=
vent)=20
would have me black flagged.&nbsp; They did not.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those=20
flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and =
on=20
and on.&nbsp; Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite o=
f my=20
lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vin=
tage=20
race.&nbsp;&nbsp; For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was runnin=
g=20
last.&nbsp; But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+=
 year=20
friend and I eventually finished dead f&amp;^ing last.&nbsp; Oh, well.</div=
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd =
like=20
to achieve.&nbsp; </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Mike</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: a=
rial,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: black; FONT-STYLE: normal; PAD=
DING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid"><fot @aut=
ox.team.net=3D"">Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires?=
??=20
  <br><br>
  <div style=3D"COLOR: black; FONT: 10pt arial, helvetica, sans-serif">
  <div><font size=3D"2">I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but sc=
uttlebutt=20
  is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible=20
  embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded=
=20
  tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was tha=
t it=20
  was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.</font></div>
  <div><font size=3D"2">Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple p=
ieces of=20
  white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "o=
ff to=20
  the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...<br></font></div>
  <div><font size=3D"2"><br></font></div>
  <div><font size=3D"2">Glen<br></font></div></div></fot></blockquote></div=
></div>
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