Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Flywheels

From: Brian Dennis via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 19:21:23 +0000 (UTC)

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 No they are not. If the picture comes through you will see the raised ring on the surface of the 1500 flywheel.

    On Thursday, April 11, 2019, 2:07:33 PM EDT, marty via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:  
 
  Can anybody tell me if the early 1296 flywheels made for the 6-1/2 dia clutch and the 1500 flywheels made for the 7-1/4 dia clutch are the same except for the clutch size?
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<span>Can anybody tell me if the early 1296 flywheels made for the 6-1/2 dia clutch and the 1500 flywheels made for the 7-1/4 dia clutch are the same except for the clutch size?</span></div>
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<span>Thanks,</span></div>
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From: JOE CURRY via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:58:29 -0400 (EDT)

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I was using a 1500 clutch on my small journal 1296 when it was in my autocross car, but that was using a special aluminum flywheel I got From Ted Schumacher that would support both clutch sizes.

I think the stock ones are totally different and can't easily be made to cross over.

Joe C.

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    <span>Can anybody tell me if the early 1296 flywheels made for the 6-1/2 dia clutch and the 1500 flywheels made for the 7-1/4 dia clutch are the same except for the clutch size?</span>
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From: Doug Mitchell via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 16:30:25 -0400

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Late 1500 had a different spline count. I believe it was 20 compared to 10
on the earlier ones. That was the single rail versus the 3 rail.

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 2:09 PM marty via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Can anybody tell me if the early 1296 flywheels made for the 6-1/2 dia
> clutch and the 1500 flywheels made for the 7-1/4 dia clutch are the same
> except for the clutch size?
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<div dir=3D"auto">Late 1500 had a different spline count. I believe it was =
20 compared to 10 on the earlier ones. That was the single rail versus the =
3 rail.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
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<span>Can anybody tell me if the early 1296 flywheels made for the 6-1/2 di=
a clutch and the 1500 flywheels made for the 7-1/4 dia clutch are the same =
except for the clutch size?</span></div>
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From: Mark J Bradakis via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 02:50:46 -0600

On 4/11/19 10:46 AM, marty via Fot wrote:
> clutch and the 1500 flywheels made for the 7-1/4 dia clutch are the 
> same except for the clutch size?
>

Isn't the crankshaft boss on the late 1296/1500 larger in diameter?

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:26:54 +0000 (UTC)

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Amici...
This thread on which flywheel for which Spitfire reminds me of a near fisti=
cuffs discussion I witnessed at one of the last NATC gatherings before they=
 became the VTR Convention.=C2=A0 It was at the Concour de Elegance judging=
, and two TR3 owners were arguing about whose car was 'original as built', =
because they had different suspension parts.=C2=A0 They were both 'correctl=
y described being 'as built'.=C2=A0 Especially towards the end of a model's=
 run (i.e., the TR3B) TRIUMPH was building cars with whatever parts were le=
ft on the shelf.=C2=A0 It resulted in some unique cars, and some heated dis=
cussions.
Bill Dentinger=C2=A0=C2=A0

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From: Mark J Bradakis via Fot <[email-masked]>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Flywheels

On 4/11/19 10:46 AM, marty via Fot wrote:
> Can anybody tell me if the early 1296 flywheels made for the 6-1/2 dia=20
> clutch and the 1500 flywheels made for the 7-1/4 dia clutch are the=20

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<div>This thread on which flywheel for which Spitfire reminds me of a near =
fisticuffs discussion I witnessed at one of the last NATC gatherings before=
 they became the VTR Convention.&nbsp; It was at the Concour de Elegance ju=
dging, and two TR3 owners were arguing about whose car was 'original as bui=
lt', because they had different suspension parts.&nbsp; They were both 'cor=
rectly described being 'as built'.&nbsp; Especially towards the end of a mo=
del's run (i.e., the TR3B) TRIUMPH was building cars with whatever parts we=
re left on the shelf.&nbsp; It resulted in some unique cars, and some heate=
d discussions.</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On 4/11/19 10:46 AM, marty via Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none=
">&gt; Can anybody tell me if the early 1296 flywheels made for the 6-1/2 d=
ia <br clear=3D"none">&gt; clutch and the 1500 flywheels made for the 7-1/4=
 dia clutch are the <br clear=3D"none">&gt; same except for the clutch size=
?<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Isn't the cra=
nkshaft boss on the late 1296/1500 larger in diameter?<br clear=3D"none"><b=
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Same thing happened on the TR6. Mine is in the last few hundred and clearly h=
ad a few bits from other years.=20

> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:26, Bill Dentinger via Fot <[email-masked]> wro=
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wo TR3 owners were arguing about whose car was 'original as built', because t=
hey had different suspension parts.  They were both 'correctly described bei=
ng 'as built'.  Especially towards the end of a model's run (i.e., the TR3B)=
 TRIUMPH was building cars with whatever parts were left on the shelf.  It r=
esulted in some unique cars, and some heated discussions.
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isticuffs discussion I witnessed at one of the last NATC gatherings before t=
hey became the VTR Convention.&nbsp; It was at the Concour de Elegance judgi=
ng, and two TR3 owners were arguing about whose car was 'original as built',=
 because they had different suspension parts.&nbsp; They were both 'correctl=
y described being 'as built'.&nbsp; Especially towards the end of a model's r=
un (i.e., the TR3B) TRIUMPH was building cars with whatever parts were left o=
n the shelf.&nbsp; It resulted in some unique cars, and some heated discussi=
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Bill=20
Yeah I hear ya on what triumph put on their cars to get them out the door.
I had a 4a that was single digits from the last one (I think it was 8 from t=
he end) it had an alternator on it from the factory!

Nick of NORCAL

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> On Apr 12, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot <[email-masked]=
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> Same thing happened on the TR6. Mine is in the last few hundred and clearl=
y had a few bits from other years.=20
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>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:26, Bill Dentinger via Fot <[email-masked]> wr=
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>> Amici...
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>> This thread on which flywheel for which Spitfire reminds me of a near fis=
ticuffs discussion I witnessed at one of the last NATC gatherings before the=
y became the VTR Convention.  It was at the Concour de Elegance judging, and=
 two TR3 owners were arguing about whose car was 'original as built', becaus=
e they had different suspension parts.  They were both 'correctly described b=
eing 'as built'.  Especially towards the end of a model's run (i.e., the TR3=
B) TRIUMPH was building cars with whatever parts were left on the shelf.  It=
 resulted in some unique cars, and some heated discussions.

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ph put on their cars to get them out the door.</div><div>I had a 4a that was=
 single digits from the last one (I think it was 8 from the end) it had an a=
lternator on it from the factory!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ni=
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n Apr 12, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
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