Subject: [Fot] TR4 (early) steering rack mount stiffening

From: David Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 18:07:29 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi All,
Thanks for the add! =C2=A0 Quick question: =C2=A0my =E2=80=9862 TR4 has the=
 tall, vertical steering rack mounts, and they flex a bit more than I like.=
 =C2=A0 (Rack is solid mounted with aluminum blocks). =C2=A0 Before I reinv=
ent the wheel, does anyone have a suggested method of stiffening these, whe=
re it won=E2=80=99t be an issue for access to anything else? =C2=A0=C2=A0
I was thinking of making some diagonals that went from one side to the othe=
r, using the existing rack mount holes, and an open hole already in the bas=
e of the vertical piers the rack bolts to. =C2=A0 This way, it=E2=80=99s re=
movable if need be, and gets rid of any torsional force- although sheer for=
ces would still be at the base of the piers.
Thanks for any suggestions!
Dave Gott=E2=80=9C80 EP=E2=80=9D HRG 3

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Hi All,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the add! &nbsp; Quick question: &nbsp=
;my =E2=80=9862 TR4 has the tall, vertical steering rack mounts, and they f=
lex a bit more than I like. &nbsp; (Rack is solid mounted with aluminum blo=
cks). &nbsp; Before I reinvent the wheel, does anyone have a suggested meth=
od of stiffening these, where it won=E2=80=99t be an issue for access to an=
ything else? &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I was thinking of making=
 some diagonals that went from one side to the other, using the existing ra=
ck mount holes, and an open hole already in the base of the vertical piers =
the rack bolts to. &nbsp; This way, it=E2=80=99s removable if need be, and =
gets rid of any torsional force- although sheer forces would still be at th=
e base of the piers.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for any suggestions!</=
div><div><br></div><div>Dave Gott</div><div>=E2=80=9C80 EP=E2=80=9D HRG 3<b=
r><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS">Sent from=
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From: Tony Drews via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:51:11 -0600

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Dave, I did something like what you describe.  I welded angle iron to 
the frame rails below the rack mounts for the diagonals to bolt to.  
This one is more of a vee welded to a cross bar out of thick flat 
stock.  I've attached a pic of the engine bay where you can kind of see 
this.  It works surprisingly well.  I did the angles in such a way that 
they didn't interfere with engine removal / installation.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 2/4/2019 12:07 PM, David Gott via Fot wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks for the add!   Quick question:  my ‘62 TR4 has the tall, 
> vertical steering rack mounts, and they flex a bit more than I like.   
> (Rack is solid mounted with aluminum blocks). Before I reinvent the 
> wheel, does anyone have a suggested method of stiffening these, where 
> it won’t be an issue for access to anything else?
>
> I was thinking of making some diagonals that went from one side to the 
> other, using the existing rack mount holes, and an open hole already 
> in the base of the vertical piers the rack bolts to.   This way, it’s 
> removable if need be, and gets rid of any torsional force- although 
> sheer forces would still be at the base of the piers.
>
> Dave Gott
> “80 EP” HRG 3
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>
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    <p>Dave, I did something like what you describe.  I welded angle
      iron to the frame rails below the rack mounts for the diagonals to
      bolt to.  This one is more of a vee welded to a cross bar out of
      thick flat stock.  I've attached a pic of the engine bay where you
      can kind of see this.  It works surprisingly well.  I did the
      angles in such a way that they didn't interfere with engine
      removal / installation.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony Drews<img
        src="cid:[email-masked]" alt=""></p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/4/2019 12:07 PM, David Gott via
      Fot wrote:<br>
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      Hi All,
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Thanks for the add!   Quick question:  my ‘62 TR4 has the
        tall, vertical steering rack mounts, and they flex a bit more
        than I like.   (Rack is solid mounted with aluminum blocks).  
        Before I reinvent the wheel, does anyone have a suggested method
        of stiffening these, where it won’t be an issue for access to
        anything else?   </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I was thinking of making some diagonals that went from one
        side to the other, using the existing rack mount holes, and an
        open hole already in the base of the vertical piers the rack
        bolts to.   This way, it’s removable if need be, and gets rid of
        any torsional force- although sheer forces would still be at the
        base of the piers.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Thanks for any suggestions!</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Dave Gott</div>
      <div>“80 EP” HRG 3<br>
        <br>
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From: David Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 03:04:13 +0000 (UTC)

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Tony,
Thanks so much for the advice and picture. =C2=A0 Glad to know I=E2=80=99m =
on the right track!
Thanks again,Dave Gott

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Monday, February 4, 2019, 6:51 PM, Tony Drews <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

=20
Dave, I did something like what you describe.=C2=A0 I welded angle iron to =
the frame rails below the rack mounts for the diagonals to bolt to.=C2=A0 T=
his one is more of a vee welded to a cross bar out of thick flat stock.=C2=
=A0 I've attached a pic of the engine bay where you can kind of see this.=
=C2=A0 It works surprisingly well.=C2=A0 I did the angles in such a way tha=
t they didn't interfere with engine removal / installation.
=20
Regards, Tony Drews
 On 2/4/2019 12:07 PM, David Gott via Fot wrote:
 =20
=20
 Hi All,=20
  Thanks for the add! =C2=A0 Quick question: =C2=A0my =E2=80=9862 TR4 has t=
he tall, vertical steering rack mounts, and they flex a bit more than I lik=
e. =C2=A0 (Rack is solid mounted with aluminum blocks). =C2=A0 Before I rei=
nvent the wheel, does anyone have a suggested method of stiffening these, w=
here it won=E2=80=99t be an issue for access to anything else? =C2=A0=C2=A0=
=20
  I was thinking of making some diagonals that went from one side to the ot=
her, using the existing rack mount holes, and an open hole already in the b=
ase of the vertical piers the rack bolts to. =C2=A0 This way, it=E2=80=99s =
removable if need be, and gets rid of any torsional force- although sheer f=
orces would still be at the base of the piers.=20
  Thanks for any suggestions!=20
  Dave Gott =E2=80=9C80 EP=E2=80=9D HRG 3
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Tony,<div><br></div><div>Thanks so much for the advice and picture. &nbsp; =
Glad to know I=E2=80=99m on the right track!</div><div><br></div><div>Thank=
s again,</div><div>Dave Gott<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.ya=
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    <p>Dave, I did something like what you describe.&nbsp; I welded angle
      iron to the frame rails below the rack mounts for the diagonals to
      bolt to.&nbsp; This one is more of a vee welded to a cross bar out of
      thick flat stock.&nbsp; I've attached a pic of the engine bay where y=
ou
      can kind of see this.&nbsp; It works surprisingly well.&nbsp; I did t=
he
      angles in such a way that they didn't interfere with engine
      removal / installation.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony Drews<img src=3D"cid:B85qknRBFGZmZt6RUXf5" yahoo_parti=
d=3D"2.2" alt=3D""></p>
    <div class=3D"yiv0407343302yqt2443061392" id=3D"yiv0407343302yqtfd09138=
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ott via
      Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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61392" id=3D"yiv0407343302yqtfd76408">
      Hi All,
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div>Thanks for the add! &nbsp; Quick question: &nbsp;my =E2=80=9862 =
TR4 has the
        tall, vertical steering rack mounts, and they flex a bit more
        than I like. &nbsp; (Rack is solid mounted with aluminum blocks). &=
nbsp;
        Before I reinvent the wheel, does anyone have a suggested method
        of stiffening these, where it won=E2=80=99t be an issue for access =
to
        anything else? &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div>I was thinking of making some diagonals that went from one
        side to the other, using the existing rack mount holes, and an
        open hole already in the base of the vertical piers the rack
        bolts to. &nbsp; This way, it=E2=80=99s removable if need be, and g=
ets rid of
        any torsional force- although sheer forces would still be at the
        base of the piers.</div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div>Thanks for any suggestions!</div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div>Dave Gott</div>
      <div>=E2=80=9C80 EP=E2=80=9D HRG 3<br clear=3D"none">
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Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 06:13:47 -0600

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Dave,

You are welcome. Paul

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 4, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>=20
> Dave, I did something like what you describe.  I welded angle iron to the f=
rame rails below the rack mounts for the diagonals to bolt to.  This one is m=
ore of a vee welded to a cross bar out of thick flat stock.  I've attached a=
 pic of the engine bay where you can kind of see this.  It works surprisingl=
y well.  I did the angles in such a way that they didn't interfere with engi=
ne removal / installation.
>> Thanks for the add!   Quick question:  my =E2=80=9862 TR4 has the tall, v=
ertical steering rack mounts, and they flex a bit more than I like.   (Rack i=
s solid mounted with aluminum blocks).   Before I reinvent the wheel, does a=
nyone have a suggested method of stiffening these, where it won=E2=80=99t be=
 an issue for access to anything else?  =20
>> I was thinking of making some diagonals that went from one side to the ot=
her, using the existing rack mount holes, and an         open hole already i=
n the base of the vertical piers the rack bolts to.   This way, it=E2=80=99s=
 removable if need be, and gets rid of any torsional force- although sheer f=
orces would still be at the base of the piers.
>> =E2=80=9C80 EP=E2=80=9D HRG 3
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iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Feb 4, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Tony Drews via Fot &lt;<=
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    <p>Dave, I did something like what you describe.&nbsp; I welded angle
      iron to the frame rails below the rack mounts for the diagonals to
      bolt to.&nbsp; This one is more of a vee welded to a cross bar out of
      thick flat stock.&nbsp; I've attached a pic of the engine bay where yo=
u
      can kind of see this.&nbsp; It works surprisingly well.&nbsp; I did th=
e
      angles in such a way that they didn't interfere with engine
      removal / installation.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony Drews&lt;hkdciipdcefeinib.jpg&gt;</p>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 2/4/2019 12:07 PM, David Gott via
      Fot wrote:<br>
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      Hi All,
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Thanks for the add! &nbsp; Quick question: &nbsp;my =E2=80=9862 T=
R4 has the
        tall, vertical steering rack mounts, and they flex a bit more
        than I like. &nbsp; (Rack is solid mounted with aluminum blocks). &n=
bsp;
        Before I reinvent the wheel, does anyone have a suggested method
        of stiffening these, where it won=E2=80=99t be an issue for access t=
o
        anything else? &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I was thinking of making some diagonals that went from one
        side to the other, using the existing rack mount holes, and an
        open hole already in the base of the vertical piers the rack
        bolts to. &nbsp; This way, it=E2=80=99s removable if need be, and ge=
ts rid of
        any torsional force- although sheer forces would still be at the
        base of the piers.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Thanks for any suggestions!</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Dave Gott</div>
      <div>=E2=80=9C80 EP=E2=80=9D HRG 3<br>
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