Subject: [Fot] EGT gauge installation

From: John Styduhar via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:30:15 -0500

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I need some tips on installation of a dual probe EGT gauge on the TR4 race
engine with twin Strombergs-
What two cylinder to use for probes.
Optimum EG temperature for tuning purposes.

Thanks

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ine with twin Strombergs-</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s=
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fault" style=3D"font-size:small">Optimum EG temperature for tuning purposes=
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 22:20:05 +0000 (UTC)

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I second the fuel pressure recommendation. =C2=A0For the $$$ I spent last y=
ear chasing what I thought was an ignition problem I could have installed t=
wo fuel pressure gauges with isolators!!! =C2=A0Not to mention the lost lap=
s in the Kastler Cup....
Phil Gott

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Drews via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: fot <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2019 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation

 I've always heard that if you have a balance tube between front and rear c=
arb that you want to run in 1 and 4 so you can better isolate which carb yo=
u want to adjust. I have mine in 1 and 4 but run webers so no balance tube.=
=C2=A0 I see up to 1450 F at the end of long straights.=C2=A0 Much more tha=
n that and I start to transfer aluminum from the piston to the cylinder wal=
ls.=C2=A0 I think there's some variation in temp readings between different=
 probes and gauges, I don't know what the accuracy really is. It's a great =
troubleshooting tool when the car starts to run like crap.=C2=A0 Another he=
lpful tools is a fuel pressure gauge (with isolator so you don't pipe gas i=
nto the passenger compartment).=C2=A0 Pressure too high overruns the floats=
.=C2=A0 To low and you've got something funny with the feed like a regulato=
r / pump going bad or you forgot to put gas in the car.
  - Tony
  On 2/27/2019 6:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote:
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31427800  Interesting =E2=80=93 why not 1 and 4 or 2 and 3?  =C2=A0 Scott (=
B.)  =C2=A0   From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Rick Pare=
nt via Fot
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:20 PM
 To: John Styduhar <[email-masked]>; Terry Stetler <[email-masked]>
 Cc: Friends of Triumph <[email-masked]>
 Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation    =C2=A0    =C2=A0   If you are=
 using SU's I would use Cylinders 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. If you are using dual=
 Webers I prefer the same as above but any two will do really.      On Wedn=
esday, February 27, 2019, 1:00:53 AM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot <fot@autox.=
team.net> wrote:     =C2=A0    =C2=A0      One and Four.=C2=A0 Typically th=
ose would run the leaner than Two and Three. =C2=A0 Terry Stetler =C2=A0 Se=
nt from Mail for Windows 10 =C2=A0       From: Fot <[email-masked].=
net> on behalf of John Styduhar via Fot <[email-masked]>
 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:30:15 PM
 To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
 Subject: [Fot] EGT gauge installation   =C2=A0      I need some tips on in=
stallation of a dual probe EGT gauge on the TR4 race engine with twin Strom=
bergs-   What two cylinder to use for probes.   Optimum EG temperature for =
tuning purposes.    =C2=A0    =C2=A0   Thanks=C2=A0    =C2=A0        ______=
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<font color=3D'black' size=3D'2' face=3D'arial'>I second the fuel pressure =
recommendation. &nbsp;For the $$$ I spent last year chasing what I thought =
was an ignition problem I could have installed two fuel pressure gauges wit=
h isolators!!! &nbsp;Not to mention the lost laps in the Kastler Cup....
<div><br>
</div>

<div>Phil Gott<br>
<br>
<br>

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Original Message-----<br>
From: Tony Drews via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2019 3:12 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation<br>
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<div>I've always heard that if you have a balance tube between front
      and rear carb that you want to run in 1 and 4 so you can better
      isolate which carb you want to adjust.</div>

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<div>I have mine in 1 and 4 but run webers so no balance tube.&nbsp; I see
      up to 1450 F at the end of long straights.&nbsp; Much more than that
      and I start to transfer aluminum from the piston to the cylinder
      walls.&nbsp; I think there's some variation in temp readings between
      different probes and gauges, I don't know what the accuracy really
      is.</div>

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<div>It's a great troubleshooting tool when the car starts to run like
      crap.&nbsp; Another helpful tools is a fuel pressure gauge (with
      isolator so you don't pipe gas into the passenger compartment).&nbsp;
      Pressure too high overruns the floats.&nbsp; To low and you've got
      something funny with the feed like a regulator / pump going bad or
      you forgot to put gas in the car.<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>

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<div>- Tony<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>

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<div class=3D"yiv4131427800moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/2019 6:10 PM, Barr, Sco=
tt via
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From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> Fot
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131427800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;fot-bou=
[email-masked]&gt;</a>
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                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:20 PM<br clear=
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pe=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv4131427800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>;
                Terry Stetler <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect"=
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com&gt;</a><br clear=3D"none">
                <b>Cc:</b> Friends of Triumph <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer=
" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv4131427800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"ma=
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                and 4. If you are using dual Webers I prefer the same as
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                  Stetler via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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                              need some tips on installation of a dual
                              probe EGT gauge on the TR4 race engine
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