Subject: Re: [Fot] Six cylinder camshafts

From: Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:55:39 -0600

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Scott,

No advice here but there is an interesting article on the web on this
subject.

http://www.averymotorsports.com/triumph-tr6/tr6-camshaft-selection/

Bob Kramer

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 10:08 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> I=E2=80=99m in search of a new camshaft for a second engine that I=E2=80=
=99m ready to
> assemble.  My current engine runs a cam from Wishbone Classics (spec
> attached) that I am very happy with, but the owner of the company is not
> responding to inquiries, so getting the same cam does not seem to be an
> option.
>
> I run a full race engine, triple webers, ported head, oversize valves,
> carillo rods, wiseco pistons, about 11.5:1 compression, aluminum flywheel=
,
> rev range 4500-7200+.
>
> Recommendations?
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Scott,</div><div><br></div><div>No a=
dvice here but there is an interesting article on the web on this subject.<=
/div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.averymotorsports.com/triumph=
-tr6/tr6-camshaft-selection/">http://www.averymotorsports.com/triumph-tr6/t=
r6-camshaft-selection/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br clear=
=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">B=
ob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 10:08 AM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line=
-break:after-white-space">I=E2=80=99m in search of a new camshaft for a sec=
ond engine that I=E2=80=99m ready to assemble.=C2=A0 My current engine runs=
 a cam from Wishbone Classics (spec attached) that I am very happy with, bu=
t the owner of the company is not responding to inquiries, so getting the s=
ame cam does not seem to be an option.<div><br></div><div>I run a full race=
 engine, triple webers, ported head, oversize valves, carillo rods, wiseco =
pistons, about 11.5:1 compression, aluminum flywheel, rev range 4500-7200+.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Recommendations?</div><div><br></div><div></div><=
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From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:28:25 +0100 (CET)

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Hallo ,=20
Kas Kastner advised me to contact Chuck Gee, what I did and I got a "320-F"=
 camshaft, made by Schneider. It is for a race engine that is about ready, =
but no races so far :=20
-lobe separation : 105 =C2=B0 .=20
- 320=C2=B0 57 - 83 83 - 53 (installation figure is 103=C2=B0)=20
- at 0.050" :31-57 61-27 (268=C2=B0)=20
-valve lift is 0.496" when rocher ratio is 1.46.=20
I wonder if the profile is the G5.=20
Marcel=20

Van: "fot" <[email-masked]>=20
Aan: "fot" <[email-masked]>=20
Verzonden: Dinsdag 13 november 2018 16:41:11=20
Onderwerp: [Fot] Six cylinder camshafts=20

I=E2=80=99m in search of a new camshaft for a second engine that I=E2=80=99=
m ready to assemble. My current engine runs a cam from Wishbone Classics (s=
pec attached) that I am very happy with, but the owner of the company is no=
t responding to inquiries, so getting the same cam does not seem to be an o=
ption.=20

I run a full race engine, triple webers, ported head, oversize valves, cari=
llo rods, wiseco pistons, about 11.5:1 compression, aluminum flywheel, rev =
range 4500-7200+.=20

Recommendations?=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>Hallo ,</div><div>Kas Kastner advi=
sed me to contact Chuck Gee, what I did and I got&nbsp;a "320-F" camshaft, =
made by Schneider. It is for a race engine that is about ready, but no race=
s so far :</div><div>-lobe separation : 105 =C2=B0 .&nbsp;</div><div>- 320=
=C2=B0&nbsp; 57 - 83&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;83 - 53 (installation figure is 103=
=C2=B0)</div><div>- at 0.050" :31-57&nbsp; &nbsp;61-27&nbsp; (268=C2=B0)</d=
iv><div>-valve lift is 0.496" when rocher ratio is 1.46.</div><div>I wonder=
 if the profile is the G5.</div><div>Marcel</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D=
"1"></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div =
data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br=
><b>Aan: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Dinsdag =
13 november 2018 16:41:11<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>[Fot] Six cylinder camshafts=
<br></div><br><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">I=E2=80=99m in search of=
 a new camshaft for a second engine that I=E2=80=99m ready to assemble. &nb=
sp;My current engine runs a cam from Wishbone Classics (spec attached) that=
 I am very happy with, but the owner of the company is not responding to in=
quiries, so getting the same cam does not seem to be an option.<div class=
=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I run a full race engine, triple=
 webers, ported head, oversize valves, carillo rods, wiseco pistons, about =
11.5:1 compression, aluminum flywheel, rev range 4500-7200+.</div><div clas=
s=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Recommendations?</div><div clas=
s=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""></div><br><div class=3D""></div=
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From: Chuck Gee via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:18:40 -0500

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It was copied from an original A-10-A cam that was ground by Bill Jenks at M=
oon.  Bill did all the cam development work for Kas back in the day.  He was=
 doing my cams too but unfortunately passed away a few years ago.  I switche=
d over to Schnieder because they are reasonably close to me and are also goo=
d at what they do.

I don=E2=80=99t remember if the A-10 and the G5 are the same.  Maybe so!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2018, at 4:28 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hallo ,
 camshaft, made by Schneider. It is for a race engine that is about ready, b=
ut no races so far :
> - 320=C2=B0  57 - 83     83 - 53 (installation figure is 103=C2=B0)
> - at 0.050" :31-57   61-27  (268=C2=B0)
> -valve lift is 0.496" when rocher ratio is 1.46.
> I wonder if the profile is the G5.
> Marcel
>=20
>=20
> Van: "fot" <[email-masked]>
> Aan: "fot" <[email-masked]>
> Verzonden: Dinsdag 13 november 2018 16:41:11
m ready to assemble.  My current engine runs a cam from Wishbone Classics (s=
pec attached) that I am very happy with, but the owner of the company is not=
 responding to inquiries, so getting the same cam does not seem to be an opt=
ion.
>=20
> I run a full race engine, triple webers, ported head, oversize valves, car=
illo rods, wiseco pistons, about 11.5:1 compression, aluminum flywheel, rev r=
ange 4500-7200+.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">It was copied from an original A-10-A cam t=
hat was ground by Bill Jenks at Moon. &nbsp;Bill did all the cam development=
 work for Kas back in the day. &nbsp;He was doing my cams too but unfortunat=
ely passed away a few years ago. &nbsp;I switched over to Schnieder because t=
hey are reasonably close to me and are also good at what they do.<div><br></=
div><div>I don=E2=80=99t remember if the A-10 and the G5 are the same. &nbsp=
;Maybe so!<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iP=
hone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 14, 2018, at 4:28 AM, van.mulders.marc=
el--- via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;=
 color: #000000"><div>Hallo ,</div><div>Kas Kastner advised me to contact Ch=
uck Gee, what I did and I got&nbsp;a "320-F" camshaft, made by Schneider. It=
 is for a race engine that is about ready, but no races so far :</div><div>-=
lobe separation : 105 =C2=B0 .&nbsp;</div><div>- 320=C2=B0&nbsp; 57 - 83&nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp;83 - 53 (installation figure is 103=C2=B0)</div><div>- at 0.=
050" :31-57&nbsp; &nbsp;61-27&nbsp; (268=C2=B0)</div><div>-valve lift is 0.4=
96" when rocher ratio is 1.46.</div><div>I wonder if the profile is the G5.<=
/div><div>Marcel</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><hr=
 id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><=
b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"fot" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fot=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Dinsdag 13 november 2018 16:41:=
11<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>[Fot] Six cylinder camshafts<br></div><br><div data-=
marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">I=E2=80=99m in search of a new camshaft for a sec=
ond engine that I=E2=80=99m ready to assemble. &nbsp;My current engine runs a=
 cam from Wishbone Classics (spec attached) that I am very happy with, but t=
he owner of the company is not responding to inquiries, so getting the same c=
am does not seem to be an option.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div c=
lass=3D"">I run a full race engine, triple webers, ported head, oversize val=
ves, carillo rods, wiseco pistons, about 11.5:1 compression, aluminum flywhe=
el, rev range 4500-7200+.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div cla=
ss=3D"">Recommendations?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div clas=
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From: DAVE HOGYE via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 07:16:45 -0800 (PST)

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My TR3 had a Schneider cam in it when I bought it.  At that time it hadn't =
been registered since 1975.  The car also had a Hepolite big bore kit, fact=
ory competition pushrods and a very poorly ported cylinder head. =20

DH

> On November 14, 2018 at 6:18 AM Chuck Gee via Fot <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
>=20
>     It was copied from an original A-10-A cam that was ground by Bill Jen=
ks at Moon.  Bill did all the cam development work for Kas back in the day.=
  He was doing my cams too but unfortunately passed away a few years ago.  =
I switched over to Schnieder because they are reasonably close to me and ar=
e also good at what they do.
>=20
>     I don=E2=80=99t remember if the A-10 and the G5 are the same.  Maybe =
so!
>=20
>     Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>     On Nov 14, 2018, at 4:28 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot < fot@auto=
x.team.net mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
>=20
>=20
>         > >         Hallo ,
> >         Kas Kastner advised me to contact Chuck Gee, what I did and I g=
ot a "320-F" camshaft, made by Schneider. It is for a race engine that is a=
bout ready, but no races so far :
> >         - 320=C2=B0  57 - 83     83 - 53 (installation figure is 103=C2=
=B0)
> >         ---------------------------------------------
> >         Van: "fot" < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] >
> >         Aan: "fot" < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] >
> >         I=E2=80=99m in search of a new camshaft for a second engine tha=
t I=E2=80=99m ready to assemble.  My current engine runs a cam from Wishbon=
e Classics (spec attached) that I am very happy with, but the owner of the =
company is not responding to inquiries, so getting the same cam does not se=
em to be an option.
> >=20
> >         I run a full race engine, triple webers, ported head, oversize =
valves, carillo rods, wiseco pistons, about 11.5:1 compression, aluminum fl=
ywheel, rev range 4500-7200+.
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">My TR3 had a Schneider cam in it when I =
bought it.&#160; At that time it hadn&#39;t been registered since 1975.&#16=
0; The car also had a Hepolite big bore kit, factory competition pushrods a=
nd a very poorly ported cylinder head.&#160;&#160;</p><p style=3D"font-size=
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>DH</p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On November 14, 2018 at 6:18 AM Chuck Gee =
via Fot &#60;[email-masked]&#62; wrote: <br> <br>It was copied from an =
original A-10-A cam that was ground by Bill Jenks at Moon. &#160;Bill did a=
ll the cam development work for Kas back in the day. &#160;He was doing my =
cams too but unfortunately passed away a few years ago. &#160;I switched ov=
er to Schnieder because they are reasonably close to me and are also good a=
t what they do.<div><br></div><div>I don&#8217;t remember if the A-10 and t=
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allo ,</div><div>Kas Kastner advised me to contact Chuck Gee, what I did an=
d I got&#160;a &#34;320-F&#34; camshaft, made by Schneider. It is for a rac=
e engine that is about ready, but no races so far :</div><div>-lobe separat=
ion : 105 &#176; .&#160;</div><div>- 320&#176;&#160; 57 - 83&#160; &#160; &=
#160;83 - 53 (installation figure is 103&#176;)</div><div>- at 0.050&#34; :=
31-57&#160; &#160;61-27&#160; (268&#176;)</div><div>-valve lift is 0.496&#3=
4; when rocher ratio is 1.46.</div><div>I wonder if the profile is the G5.<=
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r><div>I&#8217;m in search of a new camshaft for a second engine that I&#82=
17;m ready to assemble. &#160;My current engine runs a cam from Wishbone Cl=
assics (spec attached) that I am very happy with, but the owner of the comp=
any is not responding to inquiries, so getting the same cam does not seem t=
o be an option.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I run a=
 full race engine, triple webers, ported head, oversize valves, carillo rod=
s, wiseco pistons, about 11.5:1 compression, aluminum flywheel, rev range 4=
500-7200+.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Recomm=
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From: Bud Rolofson via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:20:30 -0700

I’ve had the same experience with Wishbone Classics. They’ve ghosted me after I bought thousands of dollars worth of parts from them. At first they were available but in the last year neither Kai or Jason will answer the phone or return calls.They were supposed to be making some rods for my Spit but their status remains in limbo. 

Looks like the website is still up and taking orders. Has anyone done business with them lately? I’ve given up making unproductive phone calls.

Anyone know whats going on there? Too bad to lose them as a resource as the parts and their knowledge were excellent.

Bud

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I’m in search of a new camshaft for a second engine that I’m ready to assemble.  My current engine runs a cam from Wishbone Classics (spec attached) that I am very happy with, but the owner of the company is not responding to inquiries, so getting the same cam does not seem to be an option.
> 
> I run a full race engine, triple webers, ported head, oversize valves, carillo rods, wiseco pistons, about 11.5:1 compression, aluminum flywheel, rev range 4500-7200+.
> 
> Recommendations?
> 
> <WBC783IKv1-install-sheet.pdf>
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Yep, I=E2=80=99m in the same boat you are.  Wishbone has provided great =
parts and tremendous information - Kai has engineered and sourced some =
really good equipment and I would like to keep getting more.  However, =
the internet is loaded with similar stories to yours, and I=E2=80=99ve =
heard from several fellow racers who have been =E2=80=9Cdropped=E2=80=9D =
like you and I have.
My advice to anyone would be that there=E2=80=99s a risk in ordering =
anything custom or sending in parts/engines for rebuilding.  Ordering =
off the website, probably ok if you don=E2=80=99t need technical =
support.  It=E2=80=99s puzzling, because everyone who has had a similar =
experience will tell you they thought they had a great relationship and =
communications, until suddenly they didn=E2=80=99t.  Heck of a way to =
run a business.

On Nov 14, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Bud Rolofson via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

I=E2=80=99ve had the same experience with Wishbone Classics. They=E2=80=99=
ve ghosted me after I bought thousands of dollars worth of parts from =
them. At first they were available but in the last year neither Kai or =
Jason will answer the phone or return calls.They were supposed to be =
making some rods for my Spit but their status remains in limbo.=20

Looks like the website is still up and taking orders. Has anyone done =
business with them lately? I=E2=80=99ve given up making unproductive =
phone calls.

Anyone know whats going on there? Too bad to lose them as a resource as =
the parts and their knowledge were excellent.

Bud

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> =
> I=E2=80=99m in search of a new camshaft for a second engine that I=E2=80=
=99m ready to assemble.  My current engine runs a cam from Wishbone =
Classics (spec attached) that I am very happy with, but the owner of the =
company is not responding to inquiries, so getting the same cam does not =
seem to be an option.
>=20
> I run a full race engine, triple webers, ported head, oversize valves, =
carillo rods, wiseco pistons, about 11.5:1 compression, aluminum =
flywheel, rev range 4500-7200+.
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Yep, =
I=E2=80=99m in the same boat you are. &nbsp;Wishbone has provided great =
parts and tremendous information - Kai has engineered and sourced some =
really good equipment and I would like to keep getting more. =
&nbsp;However, the internet is loaded with similar stories to yours, and =
I=E2=80=99ve heard from several fellow racers who have been =
=E2=80=9Cdropped=E2=80=9D like you and I have.<div class=3D"">My advice =
to anyone would be that there=E2=80=99s a risk in ordering anything =
custom or sending in parts/engines for rebuilding. &nbsp;Ordering off =
the website, probably ok if you don=E2=80=99t need technical support. =
&nbsp;It=E2=80=99s puzzling, because everyone who has had a similar =
experience will tell you they thought they had a great relationship and =
communications, until suddenly they didn=E2=80=99t. &nbsp;Heck of a way =
to run a business.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Nov 14, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Bud Rolofson via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve had the same experience with Wishbone Classics. =
They=E2=80=99ve ghosted me after I bought thousands of dollars worth of =
parts from them. At first they were available but in the last year =
neither Kai or Jason will answer the phone or return calls.They were =
supposed to be making some rods for my Spit but their status remains in =
limbo. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Looks like the website is still up =
and taking orders. Has anyone done business with them lately? I=E2=80=99ve=
 given up making unproductive phone calls.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Anyone know whats going on there? Too bad to lose them as a =
resource as the parts and their knowledge were excellent.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Bud<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Nov 13, 2018, at 8:41 =
AM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m in search of a new camshaft for a second engine =
that I=E2=80=99m ready to assemble. &nbsp;My current engine runs a cam =
from Wishbone Classics (spec attached) that I am very happy with, but =
the owner of the company is not responding to inquiries, so getting the =
same cam does not seem to be an option.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I =
run a full race engine, triple webers, ported head, oversize valves, =
carillo rods, wiseco pistons, about 11.5:1 compression, aluminum =
flywheel, rev range 4500-7200+.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Recommendations?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&lt;WBC783IKv1-install-sheet.pdf&gt;<br =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br =
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From: Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:18:41 -0600

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It was the same with PRI.  Chris Cancelli is a great guy. He moved to
Austin after some years building a sketchy reputation in Oregon. While he
was here I got to know him a little. He set up a nice shop, was doing nice
work but he simply didn't have the business acumen to make a go of it. He
added to his rep leaving a few very unhappy people behind when he escaped
Austin.

Bob Kramer

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 1:24 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Yep, I=E2=80=99m in the same boat you are.  Wishbone has provided great p=
arts and
> tremendous information - Kai has engineered and sourced some really good
> equipment and I would like to keep getting more.  However, the internet i=
s
> loaded with similar stories to yours, and I=E2=80=99ve heard from several=
 fellow
> racers who have been =E2=80=9Cdropped=E2=80=9D like you and I have.
> My advice to anyone would be that there=E2=80=99s a risk in ordering anyt=
hing
> custom or sending in parts/engines for rebuilding.  Ordering off the
> website, probably ok if you don=E2=80=99t need technical support.  It=E2=
=80=99s puzzling,
> because everyone who has had a similar experience will tell you they
> thought they had a great relationship and communications, until suddenly
> they didn=E2=80=99t.  Heck of a way to run a business.
>
> On Nov 14, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Bud Rolofson via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> I=E2=80=99ve had the same experience with Wishbone Classics. They=E2=80=
=99ve ghosted me
> after I bought thousands of dollars worth of parts from them. At first th=
ey
> were available but in the last year neither Kai or Jason will answer the
> phone or return calls.They were supposed to be making some rods for my Sp=
it
> but their status remains in limbo.
>
> Looks like the website is still up and taking orders. Has anyone done
> business with them lately? I=E2=80=99ve given up making unproductive phon=
e calls.
>
> Anyone know whats going on there? Too bad to lose them as a resource as
=99m ready to
,
> <WBC783IKv1-install-sheet.pdf>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">It was the same with PRI.=C2=A0 Chris Cancelli is a great =
guy. He moved to Austin after some years building a sketchy=C2=A0reputation=
 in Oregon. While he was here I got to know him a little. He set up a nice =
shop, was doing nice work but he simply didn&#39;t have the business acumen=
 to make a go of it. He added to his rep leaving a few very unhappy people =
behind when he escaped Austin.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div=
><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_si=
gnature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div></div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 1:=
24 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fot@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div st=
yle=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Yep, I=E2=80=99m =
in the same boat you are.=C2=A0 Wishbone has provided great parts and treme=
ndous information - Kai has engineered and sourced some really good equipme=
nt and I would like to keep getting more.=C2=A0 However, the internet is lo=
aded with similar stories to yours, and I=E2=80=99ve heard from several fel=
low racers who have been =E2=80=9Cdropped=E2=80=9D like you and I have.<div=
>My advice to anyone would be that there=E2=80=99s a risk in ordering anyth=
ing custom or sending in parts/engines for rebuilding.=C2=A0 Ordering off t=
he website, probably ok if you don=E2=80=99t need technical support.=C2=A0 =
It=E2=80=99s puzzling, because everyone who has had a similar experience wi=
ll tell you they thought they had a great relationship and communications, =
until suddenly they didn=E2=80=99t.=C2=A0 Heck of a way to run a business.<=
br><div><div><br><div>On Nov 14, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Bud Rolofson via Fot &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"m_-8557076946185003240Apple-interchange-=
newline"><div><div>I=E2=80=99ve had the same experience with Wishbone Class=
ics. They=E2=80=99ve ghosted me after I bought thousands of dollars worth o=
f parts from them. At first they were available but in the last year neithe=
r Kai or Jason will answer the phone or return calls.They were supposed to =
be making some rods for my Spit but their status remains in limbo. <br><br>=
Looks like the website is still up and taking orders. Has anyone done busin=
ess with them lately? I=E2=80=99ve given up making unproductive phone calls=
.<br><br>Anyone know whats going on there? Too bad to lose them as a resour=
ce as the parts and their knowledge were excellent.<br><br>Bud<br><br><br><=
blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 13, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>I=E2=80=99m in search of a new camshaft for a sec=
ond engine that I=E2=80=99m ready to assemble.=C2=A0 My current engine runs=
 a cam from Wishbone Classics (spec attached) that I am very happy with, bu=
t the owner of the company is not responding to inquiries, so getting the s=
ame cam does not seem to be an option.<br><br>I run a full race engine, tri=
ple webers, ported head, oversize valves, carillo rods, wiseco pistons, abo=
ut 11.5:1 compression, aluminum flywheel, rev range 4500-7200+.<br><br>Reco=
mmendations?<br><br>&lt;WBC783IKv1-install-sheet.pdf&gt;<br>_______________=
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