Subject: [Fot] Fwd: free entry into the Triumph race at the Glen?

From: Brian Garcia via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 06:05:57 -0500

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I=E2=80=99m not sure I understand all of the suspicion surrounding this.  Me=
mbers have already talked to SVRA and Rick, an SVRA staff member, has confir=
med that information to the list.  Further, several have already registered a=
nd confirmed that their entry fee was, in fact, $100.  If there are Triumph r=
acers out there that aren=E2=80=99t on FOT they will undoubtably see SVRA 20=
19 schedule in magazines in the upcoming months and all the info was on thei=
r website the day it was announced.  SVRA is trying this with a different ma=
rque at every race this year.  As someone that has organized events in the p=
ast I think it is a cool strategy. Are they doing it to increase car counts?=
  Of course - why else would you offer any incentive for any race your holdi=
ng?  My guess is that they are looking at these feature discounts as a loss l=
eader hoping to pick up repeat entries in the future if they can put on a go=
od event and make it an experience that a driver wants to repeat.  Nothing n=
efarious about that.  =20

For what it=E2=80=99s worth they had another promotion tying a free test day=
 ($325 value for most of their events) to an earlybird entry for 2019.  I di=
d it.  They added a test day for free.  Just as advertised. =20

In summation - if you were at all considering running Watkins Glen they have=
 offered an awesome experience to do so.  If you weren=E2=80=99t that=E2=80=99=
s cool too.  I have no affiliation to SVRA - in fact next year will be the f=
irst time I have run with them since 2015. I=E2=80=99m just a guy that loves=
 vintage racing and loves a good deal.  There are shortages of many things i=
n this world.  Good news and discounts on anything race-related are certainl=
y among them.  Be willing to accept them on the rare occasion that they come=
 along :)

Just my $.02

Brian

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <[email-masked]>
> Date: November 1, 2018 at 10:47:33 AM CDT
> Cc: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the Glen?
> Reply-To: Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked]>
>=20
> I suggest a racer take the lead and get SVRA to publish to FOT the complet=
e deal, if any hidden costs, committed track time and time of day for all Tr=
iumph racers and any other salient information. Also suggest that they exten=
d the invite to all FOT racers, there may be some who have never raced a SVR=
A event or never a WG event who would like to do so.
> =20
> Since Triumph is the featured marque in 2019 for the in town events SVRA m=
ust want to piggy back on that and that makes sense.
> =20
> Since Triumph is the downtown feature marque and I=E2=80=99m not a racer I=
=E2=80=99ll be doing WG in September. Triumphs have always been very visible=
 in the downtown event year over year and it=E2=80=99s nice they are recogni=
zing that. I know many of the WPTA faithful will be too.
> =20
> JVV
> =20
> From: John Styduhar via Fot
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:50 AM
> To: william r tobin
> Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
> Subject: Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the Glen?
> =20
> All we need is Bob Tullius as the Grand Marshall.
> =20
> =20
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bill Tobin via Fot <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
>> Hi Gang, i'm planning on attending; it's a fun weekend, although you can g=
et more track time at a some  of the smaller races. Like VRG events.
>>=20
>> However, if you go to this race, be sure to sign up for the Friday evenin=
g re-enactment. It's a blast. And it is Watkins Glen. You might encounter so=
me famous, or semi-famous, folks there. Like B S Levy. I manned his booksell=
ing tent for a few minutes while he hit the portajohn. But I digress!
>>=20
>> I did have a nice chat with Boris Said last September. Interesting guy.
>>=20
>> You probably won't be sorry if you go.
>>=20
>> Cheers, Bill
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On 10/31/2018 9:11 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote:
>>> I received this from SVRA today. They're not my normal race group but th=
is seems like a good deal. Anyone else going?
>>> =20
>>> mike h
>>> =20
>>> Please accept this personal invitation to bring your
>>> 1963 Triumph Spitfire
>>> to the Triumph Reunion at our 2019 US Vintage Grand Prix
>>> which includes FREE ENTRY*
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>> Dear Mike Harmuth,
>>> I am excited to tell you about a brand new program that is being launche=
d for SVRA=E2=80=99s 2019 race season. Since acquiring SVRA, it has been my g=
oal to fund SVRA through sponsorships and engaging spectators, not just by t=
he entry fees paid by our racers. This year we are taking a big step with th=
e launch of our Reunion Program.
>>> At each of our SVRA events, we will host a Featured Marque or Featured G=
roup. All hosted participants will receive special event entitlements includ=
ing, =E2=80=9CFree Entry=E2=80=9D into the Sprint race. Each hosted entrant w=
ill run two sessions on Friday and Saturday with their normal SVRA run group=
 and a Sunday 30 minute Reunion Race and Fan Walk. Each feature entrant will=
 receive a Reunion Group photo and Hero Cards to pass out to kids so they ca=
n collect them and learn about your car. The Feature Marque/Group will also b=
e highlighted in the event program and on the poster. We really are serious a=
bout you being the featured show for our spectators.
>>> For the US Vintage Grand Prix, we are hosting an Triumph Reunion. Please=
 click the link below to enter the race. You will be responsible for the opt=
ional activities like; the test day, enduro and dinner tickets. The Sprint r=
ace will cost $100 but we will issue a $100* dollar check to each entrant th=
at takes the green flag in Sunday's Triumph Reunion race. This is a first st=
ep at being able to offer free entry to our featured groups. It's my hope th=
at someday, SVRA will be able to offer free entry to several race groups on t=
he same weekend.
>>>=20
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m not sure I understand all of th=
e suspicion surrounding this. &nbsp;Members have already talked to SVRA and R=
ick, an SVRA staff member, has confirmed that information to the list. &nbsp=
;Further, several have already registered and confirmed that their entry fee=
 was, in fact, $100. &nbsp;If there are Triumph racers out there that aren=E2=
=80=99t on FOT they will undoubtably see SVRA 2019 schedule in magazines in t=
he upcoming months and all the info was on their website the day it was anno=
unced. &nbsp;SVRA is trying this with a different marque at every race this y=
ear. &nbsp;As someone that has organized events in the past I think it is a c=
ool strategy. Are they doing it to increase car counts? &nbsp;Of course - wh=
y else would you offer any incentive for any race your holding? &nbsp;My gue=
ss is that they are looking at these feature discounts as a loss leader hopi=
ng to pick up repeat entries in the future if they can put on a good event a=
nd make it an experience that a driver wants to repeat. &nbsp;Nothing nefari=
ous about that. &nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>For what it=E2=80=99s worth t=
hey had another promotion tying a free test day ($325 value for most of thei=
r events) to an earlybird entry for 2019. &nbsp;I did it. &nbsp;They added a=
 test day for free. &nbsp;Just as advertised. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><di=
v>In summation - if you were at all considering running Watkins Glen they ha=
ve offered an awesome experience to do so. &nbsp;If you weren=E2=80=99t that=
=E2=80=99s cool too. &nbsp;I have no affiliation to SVRA - in fact next year=
 will be the first time I have run with them since 2015. I=E2=80=99m just a g=
uy that loves vintage racing and loves a good deal. &nbsp;There are shortage=
s of many things in this world. &nbsp;Good news and discounts on anything ra=
ce-related are certainly among them. &nbsp;Be willing to accept them on the r=
are occasion that they come along :)</div><div><br></div><div>Just my $.02</=
div><div><br></div><div>Brian<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Sent fro=
m my iPhone</div><div><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div><b>From:</b> Jerry Van Vlack via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Date:</b> November 1, 2=
018 at 10:47:33 AM CDT<br><b>Cc:</b> "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</=
b> <b>Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the Glen?</b><br><b>Repl=
y-To:</b> Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jerr=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<div>I suggest a racer take the lead and get SVRA to publish to FOT the comp=
lete=20
deal, if any hidden costs, committed track time and time of day for all Triu=
mph=20
racers and any other salient information. Also suggest that they extend the=20=

invite to all FOT racers, there may be some who have never raced a SVRA even=
t or=20
never a WG event who would like to do so. </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Since Triumph is the featured marque in 2019 for the in town events SVR=
A=20
must want to piggy back on that and that makes sense.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Since Triumph is the downtown feature marque and I=E2=80=99m not a race=
r I=E2=80=99ll be=20
doing WG in September. Triumphs have always been very visible in the downtow=
n=20
event year over year and it=E2=80=99s nice they are recognizing that. I know=
 many of the=20
WPTA faithful will be too.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>JVV </div>
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libri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
Y: inline">
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<div style=3D"font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]=
">John=20
Styduhar via Fot</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:50 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]">william r tobin</a>=
 </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]">Triumph 'Friends of Triumph<=
/a>=20
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the=20
Glen?</div></div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div></div>
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libri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
Y: inline">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small">All we need is Bob T=
ullius as=20
the Grand Marshall.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small">&nbsp;</div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bill Tobin via Fot=20
&lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: #=
ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
  <p>Hi Gang, i'm planning on attending; it's a fun weekend, although you ca=
n=20
  get more track time at a some&nbsp; of the smaller races. Like VRG events.=
</p>
  <p>However, if you go to this race, be sure to sign up for the Friday even=
ing=20
  re-enactment. It's a blast. And it is Watkins Glen. You might encounter so=
me=20
  famous, or semi-famous, folks there. Like B S Levy. I manned his bookselli=
ng=20
  tent for a few minutes while he hit the portajohn. But I digress!</p>
  <p>I did have a nice chat with Boris Said last September. Interesting guy.=
</p>
  <p>You probably won't be sorry if you go.<br></p>
  <p>Cheers, Bill<br></p><br>
  <div class=3D"m_7440610348066735364moz-cite-prefix">On 10/31/2018 9:11 AM,=
 Mike=20
  Harmuth via Fot wrote:<br></div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
    <div dir=3D"ltr">
    <div>I received this from SVRA today. They're not my normal race group b=
ut=20
    this seems like a good deal. Anyone else going?</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>mike h<br></div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>
    <div style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 20px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 20px">
    <div>
    <p lang=3D"x-size-18" class=3D"m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671=
9870248size-18" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 17px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 20px; MARGIN-TOP: 0=
px; TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: 26px"><span style=3D"COLOR: rgb(16,96,1=
76)">Please accept this personal invitation to=20
    bring your</span><br><strong><span style=3D"COLOR: rgb(48,48,48)">1963 T=
riumph=20
    Spitfire</span></strong><br><span style=3D"COLOR: rgb(16,96,176)">to the=
=20
    Triumph Reunion at our 2019 US Vintage Grand Prix<br>which includes FREE=
=20
    ENTRY*</span></p></div></div>
    <div style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 20px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 20px">
    <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 1px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px">&nbsp;</div></div>
    <div style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 24px; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 20px=
">
    <div>
    <p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671=
9870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: s=
ans-serif; MARGIN-TOP: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 21px"><span class=3D"m_744061034806=
6735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-sans-serif">Dear=20
    Mike Harmuth,</span></p>
    <p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671=
9870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: s=
ans-serif; MARGIN-TOP: 20px; LINE-HEIGHT: 21px"><span class=3D"m_74406103480=
66735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-sans-serif">I am=20
    excited to tell you about a brand new program that is being launched for=
=20
    SVRA=E2=80=99s 2019 race season. Since acquiring SVRA, it has been my go=
al to fund=20
    SVRA through sponsorships and engaging spectators, not just by the entry=
=20
    fees paid by our racers. This year we are taking a big step with the lau=
nch=20
    of our Reunion Program.</span></p>
    <p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671=
9870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: s=
ans-serif; MARGIN-TOP: 20px; LINE-HEIGHT: 21px"><span class=3D"m_74406103480=
66735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-sans-serif">At=20
    each of our SVRA events, we will host a Featured Marque or Featured Grou=
p.=20
    All hosted participants will receive special event entitlements includin=
g,=20
    =E2=80=9C<strong>Free Entry</strong>=E2=80=9D into the Sprint race. Each=
 hosted entrant will=20
    run two sessions on Friday and Saturday with their normal SVRA run group=
 and=20
    a Sunday 30 minute Reunion Race and Fan Walk. Each feature entrant will=20=

    receive a Reunion Group photo and Hero Cards to pass out to kids so they=
 can=20
    collect them and learn about your car. The Feature Marque/Group will als=
o be=20
    highlighted in the event program and on the poster. We really are seriou=
s=20
    about you being the featured show for our spectators.</span></p>
    <p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671=
9870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: s=
ans-serif; MARGIN-TOP: 20px; LINE-HEIGHT: 21px"><span class=3D"m_74406103480=
66735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-sans-serif">For=20
    the US Vintage Grand Prix, we are hosting an Triumph Reunion. Please cli=
ck=20
    the link below to enter the race. You will be responsible for the option=
al=20
    activities like; the test day, enduro and dinner tickets. The Sprint rac=
e=20
    will cost $100 but we will issue a $100* dollar check to each entrant th=
at=20
    takes the green flag in Sunday's Triumph Reunion race. This is a first s=
tep=20
    at being able to offer free entry to our featured groups. It's my hope t=
hat=20
    someday, SVRA will be able to offer free entry to several race groups on=
 the=20
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From: John Styduhar via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 09:30:43 -0400

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Even if you're not a racer, you should make plans to bring your street TR
to the Grand Prix Festival on Sept 6, 2019.  Check out all the festival
activities at:

http://grandprixfestival.com/index.html

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 7:47 AM Brian Garcia via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> I=E2=80=99m not sure I understand all of the suspicion surrounding this. =
 Members
> have already talked to SVRA and Rick, an SVRA staff member, has confirmed
> that information to the list.  Further, several have already registered a=
nd
> confirmed that their entry fee was, in fact, $100.  If there are Triumph
> racers out there that aren=E2=80=99t on FOT they will undoubtably see SVR=
A 2019
> schedule in magazines in the upcoming months and all the info was on thei=
r
> website the day it was announced.  SVRA is trying this with a different
> marque at every race this year.  As someone that has organized events in
> the past I think it is a cool strategy. Are they doing it to increase car
> counts?  Of course - why else would you offer any incentive for any race
> your holding?  My guess is that they are looking at these feature discoun=
ts
> as a loss leader hoping to pick up repeat entries in the future if they c=
an
> put on a good event and make it an experience that a driver wants to
> repeat.  Nothing nefarious about that.
>
> For what it=E2=80=99s worth they had another promotion tying a free test =
day ($325
> value for most of their events) to an earlybird entry for 2019.  I did it=
.
> They added a test day for free.  Just as advertised.
>
> In summation - if you were at all considering running Watkins Glen they
> have offered an awesome experience to do so.  If you weren=E2=80=99t that=
=E2=80=99s cool
> too.  I have no affiliation to SVRA - in fact next year will be the first
> time I have run with them since 2015. I=E2=80=99m just a guy that loves v=
intage
> racing and loves a good deal.  There are shortages of many things in this
> world.  Good news and discounts on anything race-related are certainly
> among them.  Be willing to accept them on the rare occasion that they com=
e
> along :)
>
> Just my $.02
>
> Brian
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <[email-masked]>
> *Date:* November 1, 2018 at 10:47:33 AM CDT
> *Cc:* "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* *Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the Glen?*
> *Reply-To:* Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked]>
>
> I suggest a racer take the lead and get SVRA to publish to FOT the
> complete deal, if any hidden costs, committed track time and time of day
> for all Triumph racers and any other salient information. Also suggest th=
at
> they extend the invite to all FOT racers, there may be some who have neve=
r
> raced a SVRA event or never a WG event who would like to do so.
>
> Since Triumph is the featured marque in 2019 for the in town events SVRA
> must want to piggy back on that and that makes sense.
>
> Since Triumph is the downtown feature marque and I=E2=80=99m not a racer =
I=E2=80=99ll be
> doing WG in September. Triumphs have always been very visible in the
> downtown event year over year and it=E2=80=99s nice they are recognizing =
that. I
> know many of the WPTA faithful will be too.
>
> JVV
>
> *From:* John Styduhar via Fot
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:50 AM
> *To:* william r tobin
> *Cc:* Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the Glen?
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bill Tobin via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gang, i'm planning on attending; it's a fun weekend, although you can
>> get more track time at a some  of the smaller races. Like VRG events.
>>
>> However, if you go to this race, be sure to sign up for the Friday
>> evening re-enactment. It's a blast. And it is Watkins Glen. You might
>> encounter some famous, or semi-famous, folks there. Like B S Levy. I man=
ned
>> his bookselling tent for a few minutes while he hit the portajohn. But I
>> digress!
>>
>> I received this from SVRA today. They're not my normal race group but
>> this seems like a good deal. Anyone else going?
>>
>> mike h
>>
>>
>> *1963 Triumph Spitfire*
d
>> for SVRA=E2=80=99s 2019 race season. Since acquiring SVRA, it has been m=
y goal to
>> fund SVRA through sponsorships and engaging spectators, not just by the
>> entry fees paid by our racers. This year we are taking a big step with t=
he
>> launch of our Reunion Program.
>>
>> At each of our SVRA events, we will host a Featured Marque or Featured
>> Group. All hosted participants will receive special event entitlements
>> including, =E2=80=9C*Free Entry*=E2=80=9D into the Sprint race. Each hos=
ted entrant will
>> run two sessions on Friday and Saturday with their normal SVRA run group
>> and a Sunday 30 minute Reunion Race and Fan Walk. Each feature entrant w=
ill
>> receive a Reunion Group photo and Hero Cards to pass out to kids so they
>> can collect them and learn about your car. The Feature Marque/Group will
>> also be highlighted in the event program and on the poster. We really ar=
e
>> serious about you being the featured show for our spectators.
>>
>> For the US Vintage Grand Prix, we are hosting an Triumph Reunion. Please
>> click the link below to enter the race. You will be responsible for the
>> optional activities like; the test day, enduro and dinner tickets. The
>> Sprint race will cost $100 but we will issue a $100* dollar check to eac=
h
>> entrant that takes the green flag in Sunday's Triumph Reunion race. This=
 is
>> a first step at being able to offer free entry to our featured groups. I=
t's
>> my hope that someday, SVRA will be able to offer free entry to several r=
ace
>> groups on the same weekend.
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-size:small">Even if you&#39;re not a racer, you should make plans to brin=
g your street TR to the Grand Prix Festival on Sept 6, 2019.=C2=A0 Check ou=
t all the festival activities at:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s=
ize:small"><a href=3D"http://grandprixfestival.com/index.html">http://grand=
prixfestival.com/index.html</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size:small"><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 7:47 AM Brian Garcia via Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m not sure I unde=
rstand all of the suspicion surrounding this.=C2=A0 Members have already ta=
lked to SVRA and Rick, an SVRA staff member, has confirmed that information=
 to the list.=C2=A0 Further, several have already registered and confirmed =
that their entry fee was, in fact, $100.=C2=A0 If there are Triumph racers =
out there that aren=E2=80=99t on FOT they will undoubtably see SVRA 2019 sc=
hedule in magazines in the upcoming months and all the info was on their we=
bsite the day it was announced.=C2=A0 SVRA is trying this with a different =
marque at every race this year.=C2=A0 As someone that has organized events =
in the past I think it is a cool strategy. Are they doing it to increase ca=
r counts?=C2=A0 Of course - why else would you offer any incentive for any =
race your holding?=C2=A0 My guess is that they are looking at these feature=
 discounts as a loss leader hoping to pick up repeat entries in the future =
if they can put on a good event and make it an experience that a driver wan=
ts to repeat.=C2=A0 Nothing nefarious about that. =C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br></di=
v><div>For what it=E2=80=99s worth they had another promotion tying a free =
test day ($325 value for most of their events) to an earlybird entry for 20=
19.=C2=A0 I did it.=C2=A0 They added a test day for free.=C2=A0 Just as adv=
ertised. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>In summation - if you were at all =
considering running Watkins Glen they have offered an awesome experience to=
 do so.=C2=A0 If you weren=E2=80=99t that=E2=80=99s cool too.=C2=A0 I have =
no affiliation to SVRA - in fact next year will be the first time I have ru=
n with them since 2015. I=E2=80=99m just a guy that loves vintage racing an=
d loves a good deal.=C2=A0 There are shortages of many things in this world=
.=C2=A0 Good news and discounts on anything race-related are certainly amon=
g them.=C2=A0 Be willing to accept them on the rare occasion that they come=
 along :)</div><div><br></div><div>Just my $.02</div><div><br></div><div>Br=
ian<br><br><div id=3D"m_2275877913751857577AppleMailSignature">Sent from my=
 iPhone</div><div><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><div><b>From:</b> Jerry Van Vlack via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Date=
:</b> November 1, 2018 at 10:47:33 AM CDT<br><b>Cc:</b> &quot;Triumph &#39;=
Friends of Triumph&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [Fot] free=
 entry into the Triumph race at the Glen?</b><br><b>Reply-To:</b> Jerry Van=
 Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">jerr=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div>I suggest a racer take the lead and get SVRA to publish to FOT the com=
plete=20
deal, if any hidden costs, committed track time and time of day for all Tri=
umph=20
racers and any other salient information. Also suggest that they extend the=
=20
invite to all FOT racers, there may be some who have never raced a SVRA eve=
nt or=20
never a WG event who would like to do so. </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Since Triumph is the featured marque in 2019 for the in town events SV=
RA=20
must want to piggy back on that and that makes sense.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Since Triumph is the downtown feature marque and I=E2=80=99m not a rac=
er I=E2=80=99ll be=20
doing WG in September. Triumphs have always been very visible in the downto=
wn=20
event year over year and it=E2=80=99s nice they are recognizing that. I kno=
w many of the=20
WPTA faithful will be too.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>JVV </div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]">John=20
Styduhar via Fot</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:50 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]">william r tobin</a=
> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]">Triumph &#39;Friends of Tri=
umph</a>=20
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the=20
Glen?</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small">All we need is Bob T=
ullius as=20
the Grand Marshall.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small">=C2=A0</div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bill Tobin via Fot=20
&lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;BORDER-LEFT:#cc=
c 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
  <p>Hi Gang, i&#39;m planning on attending; it&#39;s a fun weekend, althou=
gh you can=20
  get more track time at a some=C2=A0 of the smaller races. Like VRG events=
.</p>
  <p>However, if you go to this race, be sure to sign up for the Friday eve=
ning=20
  re-enactment. It&#39;s a blast. And it is Watkins Glen. You might encount=
er some=20
  famous, or semi-famous, folks there. Like B S Levy. I manned his booksell=
ing=20
  tent for a few minutes while he hit the portajohn. But I digress!</p>
  <p>I did have a nice chat with Boris Said last September. Interesting guy=
.</p>
  <p>You probably won&#39;t be sorry if you go.<br></p>
  <p>Cheers, Bill<br></p><br>
  <div class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364moz-cite-prefix">=
On 10/31/2018 9:11 AM, Mike=20
  Harmuth via Fot wrote:<br></div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
    <div dir=3D"ltr">
    <div>I received this from SVRA today. They&#39;re not my normal race gr=
oup but=20
    this seems like a good deal. Anyone else going?</div>
    <div>=C2=A0</div>
    <div>mike h<br></div>
    <div>=C2=A0</div>
    <div>
    <div style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:20px;MARGIN-RIGHT:20px">
    <div>
    <p lang=3D"x-size-18" class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_74406103480667353=
64gmail-m_7404848736719870248size-18" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:17px;MARGIN-BOTTOM=
:20px;MARGIN-TOP:0px;TEXT-ALIGN:center;LINE-HEIGHT:26px"><span style=3D"COL=
OR:rgb(16,96,176)">Please accept this personal invitation to=20
    bring your</span><br><strong><span style=3D"COLOR:rgb(48,48,48)">1963 T=
riumph=20
    Spitfire</span></strong><br><span style=3D"COLOR:rgb(16,96,176)">to the=
=20
    Triumph Reunion at our 2019 US Vintage Grand Prix<br>which includes FRE=
E=20
    ENTRY*</span></p></div></div>
    <div style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:20px;MARGIN-RIGHT:20px">
    <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:1px;LINE-HEIGHT:10px">=C2=A0</div></div>
    <div style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:24px;MARGIN-LEFT:20px;MARGIN-RIGHT:20px">
    <div>
    <p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_74406103480667353=
64gmail-m_7404848736719870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;MARGIN-BOTTOM=
:0px;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;MARGIN-TOP:0px;LINE-HEIGHT:21px"><span class=3D=
"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-=
sans-serif">Dear=20
    Mike Harmuth,</span></p>
    <p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_74406103480667353=
64gmail-m_7404848736719870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;MARGIN-BOTTOM=
:0px;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;MARGIN-TOP:20px;LINE-HEIGHT:21px"><span class=
=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248fo=
nt-sans-serif">I am=20
    excited to tell you about a brand new program that is being launched fo=
r=20
    SVRA=E2=80=99s 2019 race season. Since acquiring SVRA, it has been my g=
oal to fund=20
    SVRA through sponsorships and engaging spectators, not just by the entr=
y=20
    fees paid by our racers. This year we are taking a big step with the la=
unch=20
    of our Reunion Program.</span></p>
    <p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_74406103480667353=
64gmail-m_7404848736719870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;MARGIN-BOTTOM=
:0px;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;MARGIN-TOP:20px;LINE-HEIGHT:21px"><span class=
=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248fo=
nt-sans-serif">At=20
    each of our SVRA events, we will host a Featured Marque or Featured Gro=
up.=20
    All hosted participants will receive special event entitlements includi=
ng,=20
    =E2=80=9C<strong>Free Entry</strong>=E2=80=9D into the Sprint race. Eac=
h hosted entrant will=20
    run two sessions on Friday and Saturday with their normal SVRA run grou=
p and=20
    a Sunday 30 minute Reunion Race and Fan Walk. Each feature entrant will=
=20
    receive a Reunion Group photo and Hero Cards to pass out to kids so the=
y can=20
    collect them and learn about your car. The Feature Marque/Group will al=
so be=20
    highlighted in the event program and on the poster. We really are serio=
us=20
    about you being the featured show for our spectators.</span></p>
    <p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_74406103480667353=
64gmail-m_7404848736719870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;MARGIN-BOTTOM=
:0px;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;MARGIN-TOP:20px;LINE-HEIGHT:21px"><span class=
=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248fo=
nt-sans-serif">For=20
    the US Vintage Grand Prix, we are hosting an Triumph Reunion. Please cl=
ick=20
    the link below to enter the race. You will be responsible for the optio=
nal=20
    activities like; the test day, enduro and dinner tickets. The Sprint ra=
ce=20
    will cost $100 but we will issue a $100* dollar check to each entrant t=
hat=20
    takes the green flag in Sunday&#39;s Triumph Reunion race. This is a fi=
rst step=20
    at being able to offer free entry to our featured groups. It&#39;s my h=
ope that=20
    someday, SVRA will be able to offer free entry to several race groups o=
n the=20
    same weekend.</span></p></div></div></div></div><br>
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I get it, you folks aren=E2=80=99t used to anyone actually doing any =
clever marketing for vintage racing. Marketing is a scary and confusing =
word in the club world, and any ideas to increase participation and =
compete against other organizations would require a special committee =
consisting of all the people who are freaked out about the idea, two =
people who think profit is evil, and the person who came up with the =
stupid idea in the first place, who would meet three times over the =
course of a year and then wander off. This is not that. This is someone =
who doesn=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s a bad thing to make money doing =
stuff.=20

A club would eventually decide on a ten-dollar discount, which =
wouldn=E2=80=99t provide an incentive for anyone and would piss off the =
people who didn=E2=80=99t get it. Sort of the antithesis of marketing.=20=

I had a conversation about some marketing efforts with some of the folks =
in SOVREN a few years ago, and then came to my senses and hid in my =
trailer for the rest of the weekend. I have some socially awkward mental =
tics which limit how much I want to talk about doing something useful. =
It=E2=80=99s why I=E2=80=99ve had to start my own businesses instead of =
working for someone else. I make a lot of mistakes, but I make them =
quickly and efficiently.=20

As a marketer, I=E2=80=99d say this is the single most clever idea =
I=E2=80=99ve seen from a racing organization since someone decided the =
wheels should go on the bottom of the cars. The incremental cost of =
adding another competitor is pretty much nothing. The future value of a =
happy customer is probably more than $10K. That=E2=80=99s math I could =
work with.=20

Bill

> On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:30 AM, John Styduhar via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> Even if you're not a racer, you should make plans to bring your street =
TR to the Grand Prix Festival on Sept 6, 2019.  Check out all the =
festival activities at:
>=20
> http://grandprixfestival.com/index.html =
<http://grandprixfestival.com/index.html>
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 7:47 AM Brian Garcia via Fot =
> I=E2=80=99m not sure I understand all of the suspicion surrounding =
this.  Members have already talked to SVRA and Rick, an SVRA staff =
member, has confirmed that information to the list.  Further, several =
have already registered and confirmed that their entry fee was, in fact, =
$100.  If there are Triumph racers out there that aren=E2=80=99t on FOT =
they will undoubtably see SVRA 2019 schedule in magazines in the =
upcoming months and all the info was on their website the day it was =
announced.  SVRA is trying this with a different marque at every race =
this year.  As someone that has organized events in the past I think it =
is a cool strategy. Are they doing it to increase car counts?  Of course =
- why else would you offer any incentive for any race your holding?  My =
guess is that they are looking at these feature discounts as a loss =
leader hoping to pick up repeat entries in the future if they can put on =
a good event and make it an experience that a driver wants to repeat.  =
Nothing nefarious about that.  =20
>=20
> For what it=E2=80=99s worth they had another promotion tying a free =
test day ($325 value for most of their events) to an earlybird entry for =
2019.  I did it.  They added a test day for free.  Just as advertised. =20=

>=20
> In summation - if you were at all considering running Watkins Glen =
they have offered an awesome experience to do so.  If you weren=E2=80=99t =
that=E2=80=99s cool too.  I have no affiliation to SVRA - in fact next =
year will be the first time I have run with them since 2015. I=E2=80=99m =
just a guy that loves vintage racing and loves a good deal.  There are =
shortages of many things in this world.  Good news and discounts on =
anything race-related are certainly among them.  Be willing to accept =
them on the rare occasion that they come along :)
>=20
> Just my $.02
>=20
> Brian
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
>> From: Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <[email-masked] =
>> Cc: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" <[email-masked] =
>> Reply-To: Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked] =
>>=20
>> I suggest a racer take the lead and get SVRA to publish to FOT the =
complete deal, if any hidden costs, committed track time and time of day =
for all Triumph racers and any other salient information. Also suggest =
that they extend the invite to all FOT racers, there may be some who =
have never raced a SVRA event or never a WG event who would like to do =
so.
>> =20
>> Since Triumph is the featured marque in 2019 for the in town events =
SVRA must want to piggy back on that and that makes sense.
>> =20
>> Since Triumph is the downtown feature marque and I=E2=80=99m not a =
racer I=E2=80=99ll be doing WG in September. Triumphs have always been =
very visible in the downtown event year over year and it=E2=80=99s nice =
they are recognizing that. I know many of the WPTA faithful will be too.
>> =20
>> JVV
>> =20
>> From: John Styduhar via Fot <>
>> To: william r tobin <>
>> Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph <>
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bill Tobin via Fot <[email-masked] =
<>> wrote:
>> Hi Gang, i'm planning on attending; it's a fun weekend, although you =
can get more track time at a some  of the smaller races. Like VRG =
events.
>>=20
>> However, if you go to this race, be sure to sign up for the Friday =
evening re-enactment. It's a blast. And it is Watkins Glen. You might =
encounter some famous, or semi-famous, folks there. Like B S Levy. I =
manned his bookselling tent for a few minutes while he hit the =
portajohn. But I digress!
>>=20
>> I did have a nice chat with Boris Said last September. Interesting =
guy.
>>> I received this from SVRA today. They're not my normal race group =
but this seems like a good deal. Anyone else going?
>>> I am excited to tell you about a brand new program that is being =
launched for SVRA=E2=80=99s 2019 race season. Since acquiring SVRA, it =
has been my goal to fund SVRA through sponsorships and engaging =
spectators, not just by the entry fees paid by our racers. This year we =
are taking a big step with the launch of our Reunion Program.
>>> At each of our SVRA events, we will host a Featured Marque or =
Featured Group. All hosted participants will receive special event =
entitlements including, =E2=80=9CFree Entry=E2=80=9D into the Sprint =
race. Each hosted entrant will run two sessions on Friday and Saturday =
with their normal SVRA run group and a Sunday 30 minute Reunion Race and =
Fan Walk. Each feature entrant will receive a Reunion Group photo and =
Hero Cards to pass out to kids so they can collect them and learn about =
your car. The Feature Marque/Group will also be highlighted in the event =
program and on the poster. We really are serious about you being the =
featured show for our spectators.
>>> For the US Vintage Grand Prix, we are hosting an Triumph Reunion. =
Please click the link below to enter the race. You will be responsible =
for the optional activities like; the test day, enduro and dinner =
tickets. The Sprint race will cost $100 but we will issue a $100* dollar =
check to each entrant that takes the green flag in Sunday's Triumph =
Reunion race. This is a first step at being able to offer free entry to =
our featured groups. It's my hope that someday, SVRA will be able to =
offer free entry to several race groups on the same weekend.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
get it, you folks aren=E2=80=99t used to anyone actually doing any =
clever marketing for vintage racing. Marketing is a scary and confusing =
word in the club world, and any ideas to increase participation and =
compete against other organizations would require a special committee =
consisting of all the people who are freaked out about the idea, two =
people who think profit is evil, and the person who came up with the =
stupid idea in the first place, who would meet three times over the =
course of a year and then wander off. This is not that. This is someone =
who doesn=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s a bad thing to make money doing =
stuff.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">A club =
would eventually decide on a ten-dollar discount, which wouldn=E2=80=99t =
provide an incentive for anyone and would piss off the people who =
didn=E2=80=99t get it. Sort of the antithesis of marketing.&nbsp;<br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I had a =
conversation about some marketing efforts with some of the folks in =
SOVREN a few years ago, and then came to my senses and hid in my trailer =
for the rest of the weekend. I have some socially awkward mental tics =
which limit how much I want to talk about doing something useful. It=E2=80=
=99s why I=E2=80=99ve had to start my own businesses instead of working =
for someone else. I make a lot of mistakes, but I make them quickly and =
efficiently.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">As a marketer, I=E2=80=99d say this is the single most clever =
idea I=E2=80=99ve seen from a racing organization since someone decided =
the wheels should go on the bottom of the cars. The incremental cost of =
adding another competitor is pretty much nothing. The future value of a =
happy customer is probably more than $10K. That=E2=80=99s math I could =
work with.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Bill<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:30 AM, =
John Styduhar via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">Even if you're not a racer, you should make =
plans to bring your street TR to the Grand Prix Festival on Sept 6, =
2019.&nbsp; Check out all the festival activities at:</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a=
 href=3D"http://grandprixfestival.com/index.html" =
class=3D"">http://grandprixfestival.com/index.html</a></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at =
7:47 AM Brian Garcia via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m not sure I understand all of the suspicion =
surrounding this.&nbsp; Members have already talked to SVRA and Rick, an =
SVRA staff member, has confirmed that information to the list.&nbsp; =
Further, several have already registered and confirmed that their entry =
fee was, in fact, $100.&nbsp; If there are Triumph racers out there that =
aren=E2=80=99t on FOT they will undoubtably see SVRA 2019 schedule in =
magazines in the upcoming months and all the info was on their website =
the day it was announced.&nbsp; SVRA is trying this with a different =
marque at every race this year.&nbsp; As someone that has organized =
events in the past I think it is a cool strategy. Are they doing it to =
increase car counts?&nbsp; Of course - why else would you offer any =
incentive for any race your holding?&nbsp; My guess is that they are =
looking at these feature discounts as a loss leader hoping to pick up =
repeat entries in the future if they can put on a good event and make it =
an experience that a driver wants to repeat.&nbsp; Nothing nefarious =
about that. &nbsp;&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">For what it=E2=80=99s worth they had another promotion tying =
a free test day ($325 value for most of their events) to an earlybird =
entry for 2019.&nbsp; I did it.&nbsp; They added a test day for =
free.&nbsp; Just as advertised. &nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">In summation - if you were at all =
considering running Watkins Glen they have offered an awesome experience =
to do so.&nbsp; If you weren=E2=80=99t that=E2=80=99s cool too.&nbsp; I =
have no affiliation to SVRA - in fact next year will be the first time I =
have run with them since 2015. I=E2=80=99m just a guy that loves vintage =
racing and loves a good deal.&nbsp; There are shortages of many things =
in this world.&nbsp; Good news and discounts on anything race-related =
are certainly among them.&nbsp; Be willing to accept them on the rare =
occasion that they come along :)</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Just my $.02</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Brian<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
id=3D"m_2275877913751857577AppleMailSignature" class=3D"">Sent from my =
iPhone</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">Begin forwarded message:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b> Jerry Van Vlack via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Date:</b> November 1, 2018 at 10:47:33 AM CDT<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b> "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b> <b class=3D"">Re: [Fot] free entry into the =
Triumph race at the Glen?</b><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Reply-To:</b> =
Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">

<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
<div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">I suggest a racer take the lead and get SVRA to publish =
to FOT the complete=20
deal, if any hidden costs, committed track time and time of day for all =
Triumph=20
racers and any other salient information. Also suggest that they extend =
the=20
invite to all FOT racers, there may be some who have never raced a SVRA =
event or=20
never a WG event who would like to do so. </div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"">Since Triumph is the featured marque in 2019 for the in =
town events SVRA=20
must want to piggy back on that and that makes sense.</div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"">Since Triumph is the downtown feature marque and I=E2=80=99=
m not a racer I=E2=80=99ll be=20
doing WG in September. Triumphs have always been very visible in the =
downtown=20
event year over year and it=E2=80=99s nice they are recognizing that. I =
know many of the=20
WPTA faithful will be too.</div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"">JVV </div>
<div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;" =
class=3D"">
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5" class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">John=20
Styduhar via Fot</a> </div>
<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b> Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:50 =
AM</div>
<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b> <a =
title=3D"[email-masked]" class=3D"">william r tobin</a> =
</div>
<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">Triumph 'Friends of Triumph</a>=20
</div>
<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] free entry into the =
Triumph race at the=20
Glen?</div></div></div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div>
<div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;" =
class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small">All we need is =
Bob Tullius as=20
the Grand Marshall.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small">&nbsp;</div></div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bill Tobin =
via Fot=20
&lt;<a class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex">
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000" class=3D""><p class=3D"">Hi =
Gang, i'm planning on attending; it's a fun weekend, although you can=20
  get more track time at a some&nbsp; of the smaller races. Like VRG =
events.</p><p class=3D"">However, if you go to this race, be sure to =
sign up for the Friday evening=20
  re-enactment. It's a blast. And it is Watkins Glen. You might =
encounter some=20
  famous, or semi-famous, folks there. Like B S Levy. I manned his =
bookselling=20
  tent for a few minutes while he hit the portajohn. But I =
digress!</p><p class=3D"">I did have a nice chat with Boris Said last =
September. Interesting guy.</p><p class=3D"">You probably won't be sorry =
if you go.<br class=3D""></p><p class=3D"">Cheers, Bill<br =
class=3D""></p><br class=3D"">
  <div =
class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364moz-cite-prefix">On =
10/31/2018 9:11 AM, Mike=20
  Harmuth via Fot wrote:<br class=3D""></div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
    <div class=3D"">I received this from SVRA today. They're not my =
normal race group but=20
    this seems like a good deal. Anyone else going?</div>
    <div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
    <div class=3D"">mike h<br class=3D""></div>
    <div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
    <div class=3D"">
    <div style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:20px;MARGIN-RIGHT:20px" class=3D"">
    <div class=3D""><p lang=3D"x-size-18" =
class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671987=
0248size-18" =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:17px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:20px;MARGIN-TOP:0px;TEXT-ALIGN:cente=
r;LINE-HEIGHT:26px"><span style=3D"COLOR:rgb(16,96,176)" class=3D"">Please=
 accept this personal invitation to=20
    bring your</span><br class=3D""><strong class=3D""><span =
style=3D"COLOR:rgb(48,48,48)" class=3D"">1963 Triumph=20
    Spitfire</span></strong><br class=3D""><span =
style=3D"COLOR:rgb(16,96,176)" class=3D"">to the=20
    Triumph Reunion at our 2019 US Vintage Grand Prix<br class=3D"">which =
includes FREE=20
    ENTRY*</span></p></div></div>
    <div style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:20px;MARGIN-RIGHT:20px" class=3D"">
    <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:1px;LINE-HEIGHT:10px" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div>
    <div style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:24px;MARGIN-LEFT:20px;MARGIN-RIGHT:20px" =
class=3D"">
    <div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
font-family: sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; line-height: 21px;" =
class=3D""><span =
class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671987=
0248font-sans-serif">Dear=20
    Mike Harmuth,</span></div><p lang=3D"x-size-14" =
class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671987=
0248size-14" =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;MARGIN-TO=
P:20px;LINE-HEIGHT:21px"><span =
class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671987=
0248font-sans-serif">I am=20
    excited to tell you about a brand new program that is being launched =
for=20
    SVRA=E2=80=99s 2019 race season. Since acquiring SVRA, it has been =
my goal to fund=20
    SVRA through sponsorships and engaging spectators, not just by the =
entry=20
    fees paid by our racers. This year we are taking a big step with the =
launch=20
    of our Reunion Program.</span></p><p lang=3D"x-size-14" =
class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671987=
0248size-14" =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;MARGIN-TO=
P:20px;LINE-HEIGHT:21px"><span =
class=3D"m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671987=
0248font-sans-serif">At=20
    each of our SVRA events, we will host a Featured Marque or Featured =
Group.=20
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including,=20
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Sprint race. Each hosted entrant will=20
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will=20
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On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:01 PM Bill via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I get it, you folks aren=E2=80=99t used to anyone actually doing any clev=
er
> marketing for vintage racing. Marketing is a scary and confusing word in
> the club world, and any ideas to increase participation and compete again=
st
> other organizations would require a special committee consisting of all t=
he
> people who are freaked out about the idea, two people who think profit is
> evil, and the person who came up with the stupid idea in the first place,
> who would meet three times over the course of a year and then wander off.
> This is not that. This is someone who doesn=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s =
a bad thing to
> make money doing stuff.
>
> A club would eventually decide on a ten-dollar discount, which wouldn=E2=
=80=99t
> provide an incentive for anyone and would piss off the people who didn=E2=
=80=99t
> get it. Sort of the antithesis of marketing.
>
> I had a conversation about some marketing efforts with some of the folks
> in SOVREN a few years ago, and then came to my senses and hid in my trail=
er
> for the rest of the weekend. I have some socially awkward mental tics whi=
ch
> limit how much I want to talk about doing something useful. It=E2=80=99s =
why I=E2=80=99ve
> had to start my own businesses instead of working for someone else. I mak=
e
> a lot of mistakes, but I make them quickly and efficiently.
>
> As a marketer, I=E2=80=99d say this is the single most clever idea I=E2=
=80=99ve seen from
> a racing organization since someone decided the wheels should go on the
> bottom of the cars. The incremental cost of adding another competitor is
> pretty much nothing. The future value of a happy customer is probably mor=
e
> than $10K. That=E2=80=99s math I could work with.
>
> Bill
>
> On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:30 AM, John Styduhar via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> I=E2=80=99m not sure I understand all of the suspicion surrounding this.=
  Members
>> have already talked to SVRA and Rick, an SVRA staff member, has confirme=
d
>> that information to the list.  Further, several have already registered =
and
>> racers out there that aren=E2=80=99t on FOT they will undoubtably see SV=
RA 2019
>> schedule in magazines in the upcoming months and all the info was on the=
ir
>> the past I think it is a cool strategy. Are they doing it to increase ca=
r
>> your holding?  My guess is that they are looking at these feature discou=
nts
>> as a loss leader hoping to pick up repeat entries in the future if they =
can
>> For what it=E2=80=99s worth they had another promotion tying a free test=
 day
>> ($325 value for most of their events) to an earlybird entry for 2019.  I
>> did it.  They added a test day for free.  Just as advertised.
>>
>> have offered an awesome experience to do so.  If you weren=E2=80=99t tha=
t=E2=80=99s cool
>> too.  I have no affiliation to SVRA - in fact next year will be the firs=
t
>> time I have run with them since 2015. I=E2=80=99m just a guy that loves =
vintage
>> racing and loves a good deal.  There are shortages of many things in thi=
s
>> among them.  Be willing to accept them on the rare occasion that they co=
me
>> for all Triumph racers and any other salient information. Also suggest t=
hat
>> they extend the invite to all FOT racers, there may be some who have nev=
er
>> Since Triumph is the downtown feature marque and I=E2=80=99m not a racer=
 I=E2=80=99ll be
>> downtown event year over year and it=E2=80=99s nice they are recognizing=
 that. I
>>> Hi Gang, i'm planning on attending; it's a fun weekend, although you ca=
n
>>> encounter some famous, or semi-famous, folks there. Like B S Levy. I ma=
nned
>>> his bookselling tent for a few minutes while he hit the portajohn. But =
I
>>> I am excited to tell you about a brand new program that is being
has been my
>>> goal to fund SVRA through sponsorships and engaging spectators, not jus=
t by
>>> the entry fees paid by our racers. This year we are taking a big step w=
ith
>>> the launch of our Reunion Program.
>>>
>>> including, =E2=80=9C*Free Entry*=E2=80=9D into the Sprint race. Each ho=
sted entrant
>>> will run two sessions on Friday and Saturday with their normal SVRA run
>>> group and a Sunday 30 minute Reunion Race and Fan Walk. Each feature
>>> entrant will receive a Reunion Group photo and Hero Cards to pass out t=
o
>>> kids so they can collect them and learn about your car. The Feature
>>> Marque/Group will also be highlighted in the event program and on the
>>> poster. We really are serious about you being the featured show for our
>>> spectators.
>>>
>>> For the US Vintage Grand Prix, we are hosting an Triumph Reunion. Pleas=
e
>>> Sprint race will cost $100 but we will issue a $100* dollar check to ea=
ch
>>> entrant that takes the green flag in Sunday's Triumph Reunion race. Thi=
s is
>>> a first step at being able to offer free entry to our featured groups. =
It's
>>> my hope that someday, SVRA will be able to offer free entry to several =
race
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><img src=3D"cid:ii_jo0fa89y0" alt=3D"image.png" style=
=3D"margin-right: 0px;"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_sign=
ature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div>=
</div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fr=
i, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:01 PM Bill via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">I ge=
t it, you folks aren=E2=80=99t used to anyone actually doing any clever mar=
keting for vintage racing. Marketing is a scary and confusing word in the c=
lub world, and any ideas to increase participation and compete against othe=
r organizations would require a special committee consisting of all the peo=
ple who are freaked out about the idea, two people who think profit is evil=
, and the person who came up with the stupid idea in the first place, who w=
ould meet three times over the course of a year and then wander off. This i=
s not that. This is someone who doesn=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s a bad th=
ing to make money doing stuff.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>A club would eventu=
ally decide on a ten-dollar discount, which wouldn=E2=80=99t provide an inc=
entive for anyone and would piss off the people who didn=E2=80=99t get it. =
Sort of the antithesis of marketing.=C2=A0<br><div><br></div><div>I had a c=
onversation about some marketing efforts with some of the folks in SOVREN a=
 few years ago, and then came to my senses and hid in my trailer for the re=
st of the weekend. I have some socially awkward mental tics which limit how=
 much I want to talk about doing something useful. It=E2=80=99s why I=E2=80=
=99ve had to start my own businesses instead of working for someone else. I=
 make a lot of mistakes, but I make them quickly and efficiently.=C2=A0</di=
v><div><br></div><div>As a marketer, I=E2=80=99d say this is the single mos=
t clever idea I=E2=80=99ve seen from a racing organization since someone de=
cided the wheels should go on the bottom of the cars. The incremental cost =
of adding another competitor is pretty much nothing. The future value of a =
happy customer is probably more than $10K. That=E2=80=99s math I could work=
 with.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Bill<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div>On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:30 AM, John Styduhar via Fot &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:</div><br class=3D"m_-1740544834073223836Apple-interchange-newline"><di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-size:small">Even if you&#39;re not a racer, you should make plans to br=
ing your street TR to the Grand Prix Festival on Sept 6, 2019.=C2=A0 Check =
out all the festival activities at:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s=
ize:small"><a href=3D"http://grandprixfestival.com/index.html" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://grandprixfestival.com/index.html</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 7:47 AM Brian Garcia v=
ia Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m not sure I understand all of the suspicion surroundin=
g this.=C2=A0 Members have already talked to SVRA and Rick, an SVRA staff m=
ember, has confirmed that information to the list.=C2=A0 Further, several h=
ave already registered and confirmed that their entry fee was, in fact, $10=
0.=C2=A0 If there are Triumph racers out there that aren=E2=80=99t on FOT t=
hey will undoubtably see SVRA 2019 schedule in magazines in the upcoming mo=
nths and all the info was on their website the day it was announced.=C2=A0 =
SVRA is trying this with a different marque at every race this year.=C2=A0 =
As someone that has organized events in the past I think it is a cool strat=
egy. Are they doing it to increase car counts?=C2=A0 Of course - why else w=
ould you offer any incentive for any race your holding?=C2=A0 My guess is t=
hat they are looking at these feature discounts as a loss leader hoping to =
pick up repeat entries in the future if they can put on a good event and ma=
ke it an experience that a driver wants to repeat.=C2=A0 Nothing nefarious =
about that. =C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>For what it=E2=80=99s worth the=
y had another promotion tying a free test day ($325 value for most of their=
 events) to an earlybird entry for 2019.=C2=A0 I did it.=C2=A0 They added a=
 test day for free.=C2=A0 Just as advertised. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>In summation - if you were at all considering running Watkins Glen they =
have offered an awesome experience to do so.=C2=A0 If you weren=E2=80=99t t=
hat=E2=80=99s cool too.=C2=A0 I have no affiliation to SVRA - in fact next =
year will be the first time I have run with them since 2015. I=E2=80=99m ju=
st a guy that loves vintage racing and loves a good deal.=C2=A0 There are s=
hortages of many things in this world.=C2=A0 Good news and discounts on any=
thing race-related are certainly among them.=C2=A0 Be willing to accept the=
m on the rare occasion that they come along :)</div><div><br></div><div>Jus=
t my $.02</div><div><br></div><div>Brian<br><br><div id=3D"m_-1740544834073=
223836m_2275877913751857577AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><di=
v><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>=
<b>From:</b> Jerry Van Vlack via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Date:</b> November 1=
, 2018 at 10:47:33 AM CDT<br><b>Cc:</b> &quot;Triumph &#39;Friends of Trium=
ph&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [Fot] free entry into the Tr=
iumph race at the Glen?</b><br><b>Reply-To:</b> Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;<br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>

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the Grand Marshall.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bill Tobin via Fot=20
&lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>
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  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><p>Hi Gang, i&#39;m planning on=
 attending; it&#39;s a fun weekend, although you can=20
  get more track time at a some=C2=A0 of the smaller races. Like VRG events=
.</p><p>However, if you go to this race, be sure to sign up for the Friday =
evening=20
  re-enactment. It&#39;s a blast. And it is Watkins Glen. You might encount=
er some=20
  famous, or semi-famous, folks there. Like B S Levy. I manned his booksell=
ing=20
  tent for a few minutes while he hit the portajohn. But I digress!</p><p>I=
 did have a nice chat with Boris Said last September. Interesting guy.</p><=
p>You probably won&#39;t be sorry if you go.<br></p><p>Cheers, Bill<br></p>=
<br>
  <div class=3D"m_-1740544834073223836m_2275877913751857577m_74406103480667=
35364moz-cite-prefix">On 10/31/2018 9:11 AM, Mike=20
  Harmuth via Fot wrote:<br></div>
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    <div>I received this from SVRA today. They&#39;re not my normal race gr=
oup but=20
    this seems like a good deal. Anyone else going?</div>
    <div>=C2=A0</div>
    <div>mike h<br></div>
    <div>=C2=A0</div>
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    <div><p lang=3D"x-size-18" class=3D"m_-1740544834073223836m_22758779137=
51857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248size-18" style=3D"F=
ONT-SIZE:17px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:20px;MARGIN-TOP:0px;TEXT-ALIGN:center;LINE-HEIG=
HT:26px"><span style=3D"COLOR:rgb(16,96,176)">Please accept this personal i=
nvitation to=20
    bring your</span><br><strong><span style=3D"COLOR:rgb(48,48,48)">1963 T=
riumph=20
    Spitfire</span></strong><br><span style=3D"COLOR:rgb(16,96,176)">to the=
=20
    Triumph Reunion at our 2019 US Vintage Grand Prix<br>which includes FRE=
E=20
    ENTRY*</span></p></div></div>
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rif;margin-top:0px;line-height:21px"><span class=3D"m_-1740544834073223836m=
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ns-serif">Dear=20
    Mike Harmuth,</span></div><p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_-17405448340=
73223836m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_74048487367198702=
48size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif=
;MARGIN-TOP:20px;LINE-HEIGHT:21px"><span class=3D"m_-1740544834073223836m_2=
275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-sans=
-serif">I am=20
    excited to tell you about a brand new program that is being launched fo=
r=20
    SVRA=E2=80=99s 2019 race season. Since acquiring SVRA, it has been my g=
oal to fund=20
    SVRA through sponsorships and engaging spectators, not just by the entr=
y=20
    fees paid by our racers. This year we are taking a big step with the la=
unch=20
    of our Reunion Program.</span></p><p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_-174=
0544834073223836m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873=
6719870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;FONT-FAMILY:sa=
ns-serif;MARGIN-TOP:20px;LINE-HEIGHT:21px"><span class=3D"m_-17405448340732=
23836m_2275877913751857577m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248f=
ont-sans-serif">At=20
    each of our SVRA events, we will host a Featured Marque or Featured Gro=
up.=20
    All hosted participants will receive special event entitlements includi=
ng,=20
    =E2=80=9C<strong>Free Entry</strong>=E2=80=9D into the Sprint race. Eac=
h hosted entrant will=20
    run two sessions on Friday and Saturday with their normal SVRA run grou=
p and=20
    a Sunday 30 minute Reunion Race and Fan Walk. Each feature entrant will=
=20
    receive a Reunion Group photo and Hero Cards to pass out to kids so the=
y can=20
    collect them and learn about your car. The Feature Marque/Group will al=
so be=20
    highlighted in the event program and on the poster. We really are serio=
us=20
    about you being the featured show for our spectators.</span></p><p lang=
=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_-1740544834073223836m_2275877913751857577m_744061=
0348066735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;MA=
RGIN-BOTTOM:0px;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;MARGIN-TOP:20px;LINE-HEIGHT:21px"><s=
pan class=3D"m_-1740544834073223836m_2275877913751857577m_74406103480667353=
64gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-sans-serif">For=20
    the US Vintage Grand Prix, we are hosting an Triumph Reunion. Please cl=
ick=20
    the link below to enter the race. You will be responsible for the optio=
nal=20
    activities like; the test day, enduro and dinner tickets. The Sprint ra=
ce=20
    will cost $100 but we will issue a $100* dollar check to each entrant t=
hat=20
    takes the green flag in Sunday&#39;s Triumph Reunion race. This is a fi=
rst step=20
    at being able to offer free entry to our featured groups. It&#39;s my h=
ope that=20
    someday, SVRA will be able to offer free entry to several race groups o=
n the=20
    same weekend.</span></p></div></div></div></div><br>
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