From mini at wi.rr.com Wed Nov 1 11:25:20 2017 From: mini at wi.rr.com (Richard Gehweiler) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:25:20 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination References: Thanks for the seconds, now how does he get connected with the group? It's been so long since I got in that I forgot how it works! Richard ?Sent from BlueMail ? On Oct 30, 2017, 10:48 PM, at 10:48 PM, Richard Gehweiler via Fot wrote: >I would like to nominate my son Daniel Gehweiler to be a member of the >FOT. Dan started vintage racing a 1961 Mini Cooper at the age of 18 and >raced until 2008. Business, career, and buying a house has kept him off >of the track since then. He has kept himself involved with vintage >racing by playing? a major part in the building, setup and? fielding of >Allen Washatko's red #6 TR6. Dan has contacted Scott Janzen about the >GT6 he had posted for sale and it looks like Dan will be the next >owner. He is looking forward to being back on the track next season. > >Do I have a second? > >?Sent from BlueMail ? > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mini at wi.rr.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Wed Nov 1 11:30:25 2017 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:30:25 -0400 Subject: [Fot] FoT Nomintions References: ?I've meet some of the Dolan clan both on and off the track and they are a great racing family.? On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Kas Kastner via Fot wrote: > How could anyone not SECOND that group of racers? I do SECOND these > nominations > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 7:44 AM, James J Dolan > wrote: > >> I would like to nominate three individuals for FoT. >> >> All three are my sons. >> >> >> >> 1. Brian Dolan, 10 year SVRA incident free racer of Triumph GT6, >> 289 Tiger, Shelby GT350, father of 6 of my grandkids, 10 year board member >> of Going to the Sun Vintage Rally, and faster than his old man. >> >> 2. Peter Dolan, VMC incident free license holder, racer of Kas?s >> GT6 and our Shelby GT350, former seminarian and team ?spiritual director?, >> as fast as the old man but much harder on the equipment. >> >> 3. Charlie Dolan, SVRA incident free license holder for 5 years, >> races his #57 MGA and our Shelby GT350, father of one of my grandsons, >> holds record of fastest lap at PVGP in an MGA, serves on PVGP Advisory >> Board, and most importantly willing to let the old man pass if I am close >> going into a corner. (The other two would never do that) >> >> >> >> All three are Co-Chairs with me of the 2018 Kastner Cup event. >> >> >> >> Jim Dolan >> >> GT6 #4 Group 44 >> >> GT6 #5 Kastner Brophy >> >> GT6 #6 >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Nov 1 14:24:17 2017 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 15:24:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] FoT Nomintions References: Does this mean I?m back on the FoT list? I?ve missed you all. From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Styduhar via Fot Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 12:30 PM To: Kas Kastner Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] FoT Nomintions ?I've meet some of the Dolan clan both on and off the track and they are a great racing family.? On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Kas Kastner via Fot wrote: How could anyone not SECOND that group of racers? I do SECOND these nominations Never be beaten by equipment. On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 7:44 AM, James J Dolan wrote: I would like to nominate three individuals for FoT. All three are my sons. 1. Brian Dolan, 10 year SVRA incident free racer of Triumph GT6, 289 Tiger, Shelby GT350, father of 6 of my grandkids, 10 year board member of Going to the Sun Vintage Rally, and faster than his old man. 2. Peter Dolan, VMC incident free license holder, racer of Kas?s GT6 and our Shelby GT350, former seminarian and team ?spiritual director?, as fast as the old man but much harder on the equipment. 3. Charlie Dolan, SVRA incident free license holder for 5 years, races his #57 MGA and our Shelby GT350, father of one of my grandsons, holds record of fastest lap at PVGP in an MGA, serves on PVGP Advisory Board, and most importantly willing to let the old man pass if I am close going into a corner. (The other two would never do that) All three are Co-Chairs with me of the 2018 Kastner Cup event. Jim Dolan GT6 #4 Group 44 GT6 #5 Kastner Brophy GT6 #6 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Wed Nov 1 16:39:21 2017 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 18:39:21 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Important stuff... Amici.. Our man John Styduhar, in his 1962 TR3, made the cover of Victory Lane (November 2017). It a great shot taken at Lime Rock, just before he lapped a 1957 Maserati 300S. Very impressive! Bill Dentinger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Nov 1 21:04:07 2017 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 22:04:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination References: <28a8b7c6-729b-4861-8f0b-8614c7b17d99@wi.rr.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Wed Nov 1 21:18:43 2017 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 03:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Important stuff... References: <15f79bd2335-c09-465f@webjas-vad251.srv.aolmail.net> Hip hip hooray! Congratulation on the cover shot, John. You had a busy season with your TR3. Great driving with solid results. DH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dentinger via Fot" To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 3:39:21 PM Subject: [Fot] Important stuff... Amici.. Our man John Styduhar, in his 1962 TR3, made the cover of Victory Lane (November 2017). It a great shot taken at Lime Rock, just before he lapped a 1957 Maserati 300S. Very impressive! Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mini at wi.rr.com Wed Nov 1 21:22:19 2017 From: mini at wi.rr.com (Richard Gehweiler) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 22:22:19 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination References: <28a8b7c6-729b-4861-8f0b-8614c7b17d99@wi.rr.com> <20171102030412.47A39208FAF@relay.mailchannels.net> Thanks Tony and thanks to Mark for all the work. ?Sent from BlueMail ? On Nov 1, 2017, 10:04 PM, at 10:04 PM, Tony Drews wrote: >An e-mail address is required for him to be signed up. Entry is manual >by Mark Bradakis, and varies in speed depending on how much attention >he happens to be paying to the FOT list at the moment. > >Regards, Tony > >At 12:25 PM 11/1/2017, Richard Gehweiler via Fot wrote: > >Thanks for the seconds, now how does he get connected with the group? >It's been so long since I got in that I forgot how it works! > >Richard > >Sent from BlueMail >On Oct 30, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Richard Gehweiler via Fot < >fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >I would like to nominate my son Daniel Gehweiler to be a member of the >FOT. Dan started vintage racing a 1961 Mini Cooper at the age of 18 and >raced until 2008. Business, career, and buying a house has kept him off >of the track since then. He has kept himself involved with vintage >racing by playing a major part in the building, setup and fielding of >Allen Washatko's red #6 TR6. Dan has contacted Scott Janzen about the >GT6 he had posted for sale and it looks like Dan will be the next >owner. 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The upper control arms are the same for TR4-6 with front caster steering setup.? > > >> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Allen Washatko via Fot wrote: >> FoT, >> >> Anyone have 2 sets of upper control arms for a TR6? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Allen >> >> >> Allen Washatko >> TR6 - #6 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Fri Nov 3 12:05:08 2017 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 14:05:08 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Upper Control Arms References: <70842B93-2CA4-4110-A598-5DF9A8BE10F5@gmail.com> ?The TR4s from CT6344 (wire wheels) and CT6391 (disc wheels) use the same unequal length upper A-arm as the TR4A-TR6 in conjunction with caster modification in the lower trunnion. Check the Moss parts catalog. On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:25 PM, J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote: > Same for TR4A through TR6.... not TR4. > > On Oct 28, 2017, at 4:38 PM, John Styduhar via Fot > wrote: > > ?Contact Scott Harper at Team Triumph. He has a barrel full. The upper > control arms are the same for TR4-6 with front caster steering setup.? > > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Allen Washatko via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> FoT, >> >> Anyone have 2 sets of upper control arms for a TR6? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Allen >> >> >> Allen Washatko >> TR6 - #6 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >> options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 4msonset at gmail.com Fri Nov 3 13:00:15 2017 From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 12:00:15 -0700 Subject: [Fot] TR6 Upper Control Arms References: <70842B93-2CA4-4110-A598-5DF9A8BE10F5@gmail.com> I stand corrected. I just didn't want to see anyone going through the trouble of buying "TR4" parts only to find they aren't compatible with their car. I recalled having such parts from an early TR4, and they weren't the same. Due diligence is warranted. > On Nov 3, 2017, at 11:05 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > > ?The TR4s from CT6344 (wire wheels) and CT6391 (disc wheels) use the same unequal length upper A-arm as the TR4A-TR6 in conjunction with caster modification in the lower trunnion. Check the Moss parts catalog. > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:25 PM, J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote: >> Same for TR4A through TR6.... not TR4. >> >>> On Oct 28, 2017, at 4:38 PM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Contact Scott Harper at Team Triumph. He has a barrel full. The upper control arms are the same for TR4-6 with front caster steering setup.? >>> >>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Allen Washatko via Fot wrote: >>>> FoT, >>>> >>>> Anyone have 2 sets of upper control arms for a TR6? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Allen >>>> >>>> >>>> Allen Washatko >>>> TR6 - #6 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com >>> >>> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 3 13:57:16 2017 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 19:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR6 Upper Control Arms References: <70842B93-2CA4-4110-A598-5DF9A8BE10F5@gmail.com> I believe only the early TR-4's were different.? They changed to the later style at chassis number CT6343 (to get 3 - 5 degrees of positive castor), and were the same from then on, through the TR-6.? The first TR-3 I had was a 1962 TR-3B.? It actually had the later 'A' Arms - same as the TR-6. Jack On Friday, November 3, 2017, 2:11:17 PM EDT, J Wagner via Fot wrote: Same for TR4A through TR6.... not TR4. On Oct 28, 2017, at 4:38 PM, John Styduhar via Fot wrote: ?Contact Scott Harper at Team Triumph.? He has a barrel full.? The upper control arms are the same for TR4-6 with front caster steering setup.? On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Allen Washatko via Fot wrote: FoT, Anyone have 2 sets of upper control arms for a TR6? Thanks, Allen Allen Washatko TR6 - #6 ______________________________ _________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timmmurphh at gmail.com Sat Nov 4 12:06:33 2017 From: timmmurphh at gmail.com (timmmurphh at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:06:33 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 brake shoes and drums We had bought a TR4 rolling chassis about 5 or 6 years ago and took the drums off that rear axle. They looked like new as did the linings. We had them turned and they cleaned up with a couple of skim cuts, so my brake drum problem is solved. 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Thanks for your interest, Greg Solow The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Tue Nov 7 08:03:47 2017 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 15:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] TR-3 front anti-sway bar kit production run References: <98E86A86DA1A451792F0B47C9FC7EE39@your89d26e0447> Excellent, Greg. All messages and photos came through on FoT and TR lists. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Solow" To: "Friends of Triumph" , triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 1:53:32 AM Subject: [TR] TR-3 front anti-sway bar kit production run I just send out some pictures of the 7/8" front anti-sway bar kit installed on the 1957 small mouth TR-3 for which it was designed. Note that there is some minor crash damage to the very front ends of both chassis rails. This is crash damage and was not a modification to the frame in order to get the kit to fit! There is a small loss of ground clearance at the very front, I think it is less than 1". When the new shipment of kit arrives, I will install the first one on a 1960 TR-3, write up installation instructions and measure the loss of ground clearance. I still do not have a delivery date. As soon as I have one, I will let everyone know. Thanks for your interest, Greg Solow The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 Virus-free. www.avast.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Easy to handle weight. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed Nov 8 19:15:43 2017 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 20:15:43 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Need Empty Trailer going east from LA to Iowa or nearby. References: I wasn?t thinking about transporting you..... Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:08 PM, billdentin at aol.com wrote: > > BULLSHIT!!! > > I?ve been dealing with weight for over 78 Years, and it ain?t easy!!! > > Bill Dentinger > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> Please contact me. Thanks. >> >> 300# load total. Easy to handle weight. >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com >> >> > From fubog1 at aol.com Thu Nov 9 05:34:36 2017 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 07:34:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Triumph Spitfire big valve head questions References: Yes it works well. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harmuth via Fot To: FoTTriumph Sent: Wed, Nov 8, 2017 5:45 pm Subject: [Fot] Triumph Spitfire big valve head questions Does anyone have experience using this head on a 1296 small journal block? It looks like it needs to be milled down to raise the compression ratio but will if flow better than a Kastner book prepped 1.38" intake valve "stock" head? I know bigger isn't always better when it comes to flow. I'm using Stahl headers and a 2 1/4" exhaust so I don't think I'm going to run into flow restriction downstream with this. https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/spitfire/engine-cylinder-head/cylinder-head-big-valve-new-spitfire-1300-1500-midget-1500.html thanks mike h Virus-free. www.avg.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Thu Nov 9 06:20:01 2017 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 08:20:01 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Need Empty Trailer going east from LA to Iowa or nearby. References: I think he got you on that one Bill!! Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Need Empty Trailer going east from LA to Iowa or nearby. >I wasn?t thinking about transporting you..... > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > >> On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:08 PM, billdentin at aol.com wrote: >> >> BULLSHIT!!! >> >> I?ve been dealing with weight for over 78 Years, and it ain?t easy!!! >> >> Bill Dentinger >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot >>> wrote: >>> >>> Please contact me. Thanks. >>> >>> 300# load total. 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OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or?advice? for switching from bias ply to radials?? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888RR888RA1 ThanksBrian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell? BSchirano at yahoo.com ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Thu Nov 9 16:16:54 2017 From: Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 15:16:54 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-3 front anti-roll bar order Ok everyone. We have 8 people who have expressed firm interest in the sway bars. I trust that everyone has seen the pictures of the bar installed on the small mouth '57 TR-3 so you can see how it is installed & how it looks. With that number of bars ordered the price will be $309.00 each plus shipping to the purchaser. Shipping will vary with the distance. Across the USA is about $27.00 each. A shorter distance will be less. We will want a non-refundable deposit of $75.00 from each person who wants one. The production time will be about 4 weeks. If we can get the number of firm orders with deposits up to 12, the cost will drop down to $285.00 each kit, plus shipping. We take Visa & Master Card for payment. We normally do these transactions over the phone so there is no chance of the credit card numbers getting into the wrong hands. For that reason we need a phone number to contact you to begin the ordering process. If there are more people interested in these parts, NOW IS THE TIME TO RESPOND! 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OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or advice for switching from bias ply to radials? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888R R888 RA1 Thanks Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell BSchirano at yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Thu Nov 9 19:20:23 2017 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 21:20:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416@mail.yahoo.com> I?ve run the R888s for years; this year am running the R888Rs, which seem slightly faster and more predictable. If you find R888s at this point they have probably been on the shelf since 2016. The tires wear incredibly well and are consistent. I?ve always been tempted to try the Hoosiers, just for comparison, but what has deterred me are camber settings. The R888s on my GT6 like about 2.5 degrees of negative camber or more, and I?m told the bias plies only want 1 degree or less. Thus, comparative sessions are impractical, and switching is a real commitment. I?ve watched similar cars running on the track with the two types of tires, and my impression of Spridgets, at least, is that on TDs there is a lot more drift in the turns than with the radials. That said, and I am sure that there are differences between the cars and drivers, there are top three Spridgets in VRG on both types of tires. Of course, they have a solid axle in the rear, so the Toyos may not be operating under ideal conditions on those cars. When I talked to Toyo they recommended 2.5-3 degrees of negative camber (even though their website says 1-3). I also hear the radials last longer, though my impression of the R888s is that after 15 heat cycles or so, they lose a little grip and lap times creep up slightly. However, seat of the pants says that is less the case with the new R888Rs. No question the toyos are cheaper - $144 at tire rack, versus $183 for the TDs at Woodman. No recent experience with the RA1s. On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: Hey Guys (and any women out there?) OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or advice for switching from bias ply to radials? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888R R888 RA1 Thanks Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell BSchirano at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bschirano at yahoo.com Thu Nov 9 19:40:42 2017 From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 02:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416@mail.yahoo.com> <992FE850-3EB7-4253-B51C-05FB8D74A8A1@me.com> Thanks guys, all looks positive for the Toyos. What is this rumor I had heard a couple of times that they stick good, but when they let go you're gone. Is this what you are talking about Scott? I can get a little drift out of the TDs on my GT. Thanks for the input.Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell? BSchirano at yahoo.com On Thursday, November 9, 2017, 9:20:26 PM EST, Scott Janzen wrote: I?ve run the R888s for years; this year am running the R888Rs, which seem slightly faster and more predictable. If you find R888s at this point they have probably been on the shelf since 2016.The tires wear incredibly well and are consistent.I?ve always been tempted to try the Hoosiers, just for comparison, but what has deterred me are camber settings. ?The R888s on my GT6 like about 2.5 degrees of negative camber or more, and I?m told the bias plies only want 1 degree or less.?Thus, comparative sessions are impractical, and switching is a real commitment. I?ve watched similar cars running on the track with the two types of tires, and my impression of Spridgets, at least, is that on TDs there is a lot more drift in the turns than with the radials. ?That said, and I am sure that there are differences between the cars and drivers, there are top three Spridgets in VRG on both types of tires. ?Of course, they have a solid axle in the rear, so the Toyos may not be operating under ideal conditions on those cars. ?When I talked to Toyo they recommended 2.5-3 degrees of negative camber (even though their website says 1-3). I also hear the radials last longer, though my impression of the R888s is that after 15 heat cycles or so, they lose a little grip and lap times creep up slightly. ?However, seat of the pants says that is less the case with the new R888Rs. No question the toyos are cheaper - $144 at tire rack, versus $183 for the TDs at Woodman. No recent experience with the RA1s. On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: Hey Guys (and any women out there?) OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or?advice? for switching from bias ply to radials?? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888RR888RA1 ThanksBrian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell? BSchirano at yahoo.com ????_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Thu Nov 9 20:27:35 2017 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 19:27:35 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416@mail.yahoo.com> <694A728A4255484FBFBFE72DB4069A02@hpd530> Yeah!!! And they really look ?VINTAGE?. Hooray for SVRA. Bill Dentinger Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Bill Tobin via Fot wrote: > > Brian, I thought the RA1 was going to be not legal next year. > I know guys that run the R888 and like them. > I bought a used set of Yokahama A048 from a guy in Wisconsin earlier this year at a great price. I ran them at the Glen last month and really liked them. They look a lot like the R888. > VRG says they are legal. SVRA says not. > My $0.02 worth. > Cheers, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Schirano via Fot > To: FOT List > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 4:14 PM > Subject: [Fot] TOYOs > > Hey Guys (and any women out there?) > > OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or advice for switching from bias ply to radials? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences > > R888R > R888 > RA1 > > Thanks > Brian > > 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 Cell > BSchirano at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888RR888RA1 ThanksBrian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell? BSchirano at yahoo.com ???? ______________________________ _________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Fri Nov 10 06:50:53 2017 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 07:50:53 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416@mail.yahoo.com> <2068809541.154842.1510314553068@mail.yahoo.com> We have had great success with the Avon CRZZ and Hoosiers. They even do ok on a damp track and all of the vintage organizations welcome them. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 10, 2017, at 5:49 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: > > I have 5.5 and 6, Toyo site recomends 5.5 - 6 - 6.5 > > 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 Cell > BSchirano at yahoo.com > > > On Friday, November 10, 2017, 4:36:43 AM EST, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > > What rim widths are you guys running? > > Thanks, > > > Brad > > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: > Hey Guys (and any women out there?) > > OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or advice for switching from bias ply to radials? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences > > R888R > R888 > RA1 > > Thanks > Brian > > 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 Cell > BSchirano at yahoo.com > > > ______________________________ _________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate. html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Fri Nov 10 06:22:08 2017 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:22:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416@mail.yahoo.com> <992FE850-3EB7-4253-B51C-05FB8D74A8A1@me.com> <789992306.16129.1510281642198@mail.yahoo.com> My GT6 has a welded rear end. I get virtually all my braking done in a straight line and then am easing on the gas almost immediately in most turns. That pushes the rear end out and steers the car. So, definitely the tires slip, and you can see it from the gummy rubber on them after a run, front and rear. However, on tighter turns, at a certain point if I push it too far, yep, the rear end just comes around. Usually you know when it is coming, but on certain turns or perhaps when this driver is not looking for the signs, it?s been known to happen. Generally not once they are up to temp though. I have heard the Hoosiers are grippier cold, and no question I need two laps at speed to get full grip. On Nov 9, 2017, at 9:40 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: Thanks guys, all looks positive for the Toyos. What is this rumor I had heard a couple of times that they stick good, but when they let go you're gone. Is this what you are talking about Scott? I can get a little drift out of the TDs on my GT. Thanks for the input. Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell BSchirano at yahoo.com On Thursday, November 9, 2017, 9:20:26 PM EST, Scott Janzen wrote: I?ve run the R888s for years; this year am running the R888Rs, which seem slightly faster and more predictable. If you find R888s at this point they have probably been on the shelf since 2016. The tires wear incredibly well and are consistent. I?ve always been tempted to try the Hoosiers, just for comparison, but what has deterred me are camber settings. The R888s on my GT6 like about 2.5 degrees of negative camber or more, and I?m told the bias plies only want 1 degree or less. Thus, comparative sessions are impractical, and switching is a real commitment. I?ve watched similar cars running on the track with the two types of tires, and my impression of Spridgets, at least, is that on TDs there is a lot more drift in the turns than with the radials. That said, and I am sure that there are differences between the cars and drivers, there are top three Spridgets in VRG on both types of tires. Of course, they have a solid axle in the rear, so the Toyos may not be operating under ideal conditions on those cars. When I talked to Toyo they recommended 2.5-3 degrees of negative camber (even though their website says 1-3). I also hear the radials last longer, though my impression of the R888s is that after 15 heat cycles or so, they lose a little grip and lap times creep up slightly. However, seat of the pants says that is less the case with the new R888Rs. No question the toyos are cheaper - $144 at tire rack, versus $183 for the TDs at Woodman. No recent experience with the RA1s. Hey Guys (and any women out there?) OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or advice for switching from bias ply to radials? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888R R888 RA1 Thanks Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Fri Nov 10 07:07:04 2017 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:07:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416@mail.yahoo.com> 6 inch, as per regulations. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Eells via Fot Cc: FOT List Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TOYOs What rim widths are you guys running? Thanks, Brad On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: Hey Guys (and any women out there?) OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or advice for switching from bias ply to radials? 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URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Fri Nov 10 07:32:10 2017 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 06:32:10 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416@mail.yahoo.com> <451E612F59EE41A495AF238E4AB2CB66@hpd530> Interesting all...VARA on the West Coast allows 1 1/2" over stock, so for a Spitfire Mk3, 6" is the max...The Toyo R888R 205 60R13 shows a rim width range of 5.5 - 7.5" on the Tire Rack website: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Proxes+R888R&partnum=06VR3R888R VARA also only allows DOT rated treaded tires...couldn't tell if R888R is DOT approved despite the tread... Cheers, Brad On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Bill Tobin wrote: > 6 inch, as per regulations. > Cheers, Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Brad Eells via Fot > *Cc:* FOT List > *Sent:* Friday, November 10, 2017 1:30 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] TOYOs > > What rim widths are you guys running? > > Thanks, > > > Brad > > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot > wrote: > >> Hey Guys (and any women out there?) >> >> OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run >> Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these >> options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn >> me about or advice for switching from bias ply to radials? Just trying >> to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have >> heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or >> handling differences >> >> R888R >> R888 >> RA1 >> >> Thanks >> Brian >> >> 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 >> Brian Schirano >> 585-305-0349 <(585)%20305-0349> Cell >> BSchirano at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >> options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net > > > -- *Brad Eells, Communications Director* *Idaho British Car Club* *www.idahobritishcars.org * *www.facebook.com/idahobritcars * *www.facebook.com/groups/idahobritishcars* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gt6steve at aol.com Fri Nov 10 08:13:57 2017 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:13:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TOYOs I loved the proxes and found they would warn me just before breakaway. Once I learnt the clues they got fast for me. I didn't know they were available again. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen via Fot To: Brian Schirano Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Fri, Nov 10, 2017 3:10 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TOYOs I?ve run the R888s for years; this year am running the R888Rs, which seem slightly faster and more predictable. If you find R888s at this point they have probably been on the shelf since 2016. The tires wear incredibly well and are consistent. I?ve always been tempted to try the Hoosiers, just for comparison, but what has deterred me are camber settings. The R888s on my GT6 like about 2.5 degrees of negative camber or more, and I?m told the bias plies only want 1 degree or less. Thus, comparative sessions are impractical, and switching is a real commitment. I?ve watched similar cars running on the track with the two types of tires, and my impression of Spridgets, at least, is that on TDs there is a lot more drift in the turns than with the radials. That said, and I am sure that there are differences between the cars and drivers, there are top three Spridgets in VRG on both types of tires. Of course, they have a solid axle in the rear, so the Toyos may not be operating under ideal conditions on those cars. When I talked to Toyo they recommended 2.5-3 degrees of negative camber (even though their website says 1-3). I also hear the radials last longer, though my impression of the R888s is that after 15 heat cycles or so, they lose a little grip and lap times creep up slightly. However, seat of the pants says that is less the case with the new R888Rs. No question the toyos are cheaper - $144 at tire rack, versus $183 for the TDs at Woodman. No recent experience with the RA1s. On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: Hey Guys (and any women out there?) OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or advice for switching from bias ply to radials? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888R R888 RA1 Thanks Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell BSchirano at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bschirano at yahoo.com Fri Nov 10 08:40:19 2017 From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <992FE850-3EB7-4253-B51C-05FB8D74A8A1@me.com> <15fa67e83c1-c05-208d4@webjas-vaa051.srv.aolmail.net> What's the sign/ do they bark? I never hear anything out of the TDs, they just slip a bit and I try not to lift 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell? BSchirano at yahoo.com On Friday, November 10, 2017, 10:14:00 AM EST, wrote: I loved the proxes and found they would warn me just before breakaway.? Once I learnt the clues they got fast for me. I didn't know they were available again. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen via Fot To: Brian Schirano Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Fri, Nov 10, 2017 3:10 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TOYOs I?ve run the R888s for years; this year am running the R888Rs, which seem slightly faster and more predictable. If you find R888s at this point they have probably been on the shelf since 2016.The tires wear incredibly well and are consistent.I?ve always been tempted to try the Hoosiers, just for comparison, but what has deterred me are camber settings. ?The R888s on my GT6 like about 2.5 degrees of negative camber or more, and I?m told the bias plies only want 1 degree or less.?Thus, comparative sessions are impractical, and switching is a real commitment. I?ve watched similar cars running on the track with the two types of tires, and my impression of Spridgets, at least, is that on TDs there is a lot more drift in the turns than with the radials. ?That said, and I am sure that there are differences between the cars and drivers, there are top three Spridgets in VRG on both types of tires. ?Of course, they have a solid axle in the rear, so the Toyos may not be operating under ideal conditions on those cars. ?When I talked to Toyo they recommended 2.5-3 degrees of negative camber (even though their website says 1-3). I also hear the radials last longer, though my impression of the R888s is that after 15 heat cycles or so, they lose a little grip and lap times creep up slightly. ?However, seat of the pants says that is less the case with the new R888Rs. No question the toyos are cheaper - $144 at tire rack, versus $183 for the TDs at Woodman. No recent experience with the RA1s. On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: Hey Guys (and any women out there?) OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or?advice? for switching from bias ply to radials?? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888RR888RA1 ThanksBrian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell? BSchirano at yahoo.com ????_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Fri Nov 10 08:47:54 2017 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:47:54 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <992FE850-3EB7-4253-B51C-05FB8D74A8A1@me.com> <15fa67e83c1-c05-208d4@webjas-vaa051.srv.aolmail.net> <1048472549.304082.1510328419276@mail.yahoo.com> they slip progressively more, but it?s not linear. On Nov 10, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Brian Schirano wrote: What's the sign/ do they bark? I never hear anything out of the TDs, they just slip a bit and I try not to lift 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell BSchirano at yahoo.com On Friday, November 10, 2017, 10:14:00 AM EST, wrote: I loved the proxes and found they would warn me just before breakaway. Once I learnt the clues they got fast for me. I didn't know they were available again. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen via Fot To: Brian Schirano Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Fri, Nov 10, 2017 3:10 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TOYOs I?ve run the R888s for years; this year am running the R888Rs, which seem slightly faster and more predictable. If you find R888s at this point they have probably been on the shelf since 2016. The tires wear incredibly well and are consistent. I?ve always been tempted to try the Hoosiers, just for comparison, but what has deterred me are camber settings. The R888s on my GT6 like about 2.5 degrees of negative camber or more, and I?m told the bias plies only want 1 degree or less. Thus, comparative sessions are impractical, and switching is a real commitment. I?ve watched similar cars running on the track with the two types of tires, and my impression of Spridgets, at least, is that on TDs there is a lot more drift in the turns than with the radials. That said, and I am sure that there are differences between the cars and drivers, there are top three Spridgets in VRG on both types of tires. Of course, they have a solid axle in the rear, so the Toyos may not be operating under ideal conditions on those cars. When I talked to Toyo they recommended 2.5-3 degrees of negative camber (even though their website says 1-3). I also hear the radials last longer, though my impression of the R888s is that after 15 heat cycles or so, they lose a little grip and lap times creep up slightly. However, seat of the pants says that is less the case with the new R888Rs. No question the toyos are cheaper - $144 at tire rack, versus $183 for the TDs at Woodman. No recent experience with the RA1s. Hey Guys (and any women out there?) OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or advice for switching from bias ply to radials? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888R R888 RA1 Thanks Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bschirano at yahoo.com Fri Nov 10 08:52:08 2017 From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <992FE850-3EB7-4253-B51C-05FB8D74A8A1@me.com> <15fa67e83c1-c05-208d4@webjas-vaa051.srv.aolmail.net> <1048472549.304082.1510328419276@mail.yahoo.com> <7EAF07FB-E471-4425-A190-D7A547AE3C4F@me.com> Thanks everyone, I think I'm going to give them a go 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell? BSchirano at yahoo.com On Friday, November 10, 2017, 10:47:59 AM EST, Scott Janzen wrote: they slip progressively more, but it?s not linear.? On Nov 10, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Brian Schirano wrote: What's the sign/ do they bark? I never hear anything out of the TDs, they just slip a bit and I try not to lift 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell? BSchirano at yahoo.com On Friday, November 10, 2017, 10:14:00 AM EST, wrote: I loved the proxes and found they would warn me just before breakaway.? Once I learnt the clues they got fast for me. I didn't know they were available again. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen via Fot To: Brian Schirano Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Fri, Nov 10, 2017 3:10 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TOYOs I?ve run the R888s for years; this year am running the R888Rs, which seem slightly faster and more predictable. If you find R888s at this point they have probably been on the shelf since 2016.The tires wear incredibly well and are consistent.I?ve always been tempted to try the Hoosiers, just for comparison, but what has deterred me are camber settings. ?The R888s on my GT6 like about 2.5 degrees of negative camber or more, and I?m told the bias plies only want 1 degree or less.?Thus, comparative sessions are impractical, and switching is a real commitment. I?ve watched similar cars running on the track with the two types of tires, and my impression of Spridgets, at least, is that on TDs there is a lot more drift in the turns than with the radials. ?That said, and I am sure that there are differences between the cars and drivers, there are top three Spridgets in VRG on both types of tires. ?Of course, they have a solid axle in the rear, so the Toyos may not be operating under ideal conditions on those cars. ?When I talked to Toyo they recommended 2.5-3 degrees of negative camber (even though their website says 1-3). I also hear the radials last longer, though my impression of the R888s is that after 15 heat cycles or so, they lose a little grip and lap times creep up slightly. ?However, seat of the pants says that is less the case with the new R888Rs. No question the toyos are cheaper - $144 at tire rack, versus $183 for the TDs at Woodman. No recent experience with the RA1s. On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: Hey Guys (and any women out there?) OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or?advice? for switching from bias ply to radials?? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888RR888RA1 ThanksBrian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell? BSchirano at yahoo.com ????_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Fri Nov 10 09:43:19 2017 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:43:19 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416@mail.yahoo.com> Brian, I've run the RA1 and R888 on my TR-4. I've also run Hoosier speedster and Yokohama A048's (my current choice, but may go back to Speedsters since they made a compound change). I used to run Hoosier Vintage TD's years ago, which are bias ply. I loved running the bias ply tires because of the high slip angle - great drift feeling, very fun. Also very expensive as I was getting like 2 races out of a set of TD's which is why I switched. All of the radial tires I mention above have decent breakaway characteristics. They do NOT do the sudden breakaway headed for the tire wall deal. The slip angles are less than the bias ply but I didn't have a hard time adjusting to it. The tail doesn't hang out quite as much, still miss that feeling. I preferred the RA1 over the R888. From a car setup and tire pressure standpoint, the Toyo's are very different from the Vintage TD's. They like more negative camber and want to be run around 40 psi where the Vintage TD's were mid 20's pressure. Regards, Tony Drews At 03:14 PM 11/9/2017, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: >Hey Guys (and any women out there?) > >OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I >run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions >on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also >anything you can warn me about or advice for switching from bias >ply to radials? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a >lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories >about spins from the learning curve or handling differences > >R888R >R888 >RA1 > >Thanks >Brian > >26A GT6+, 28 TR6 >Brian Schirano >585-305-0349 Cell >BSchirano at yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com From kknight at klaenv.com Fri Nov 10 10:32:18 2017 From: kknight at klaenv.com (Kenneth Knight) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:32:18 -0800 Subject: [Fot] SEMA & Holiday Stocking Stuffers Good Morning All: I was at SEMA last week and here are a few items that could be on you Christmas List. Car Tech Books (www.cartechbooks.com) has a new book: ?The Illustrated History of Triumph Sports and Racing Cars? by G. William Krause, isbn 9781613253387 for $26.95. They also carry some very good books on blueprinting motors and performance. I have my eye on ?Trucks of the Soviet Union: The Definitive History? because who knew there was even a market and you never know when that information will come in handy The new ARP catalog is out. I think you can get this at there website in pdf, well worth having for the technical sections on fasteners. There were three items that would fill out any TR tool kit. The first is ARP ?-13 chaser tap for cleaning (not cutting threads). I have one of these and I welded it to an old head stud (welded a nut on end) and use it to clean threads in the big TR blocks. This is part #911-0005 and Summit has it for about $35.00. Other sizes available. These are undercut chaser taps of very high quality and so they will not damage threads but clean them up. ARP sells the aluminum tapered ring compressors in 87mm (901-8700) and 89mm (901-8900) and Summit has them for about $60.00. An FOT racer, who shall remain nameless, was using the old fashioned style ring compressor that you crank down. The oil ring did not compress properly and when he drove it into the new and torque honed liner it put a big scratch in the liner. I have never had this happen with these tools and it makes fitting those tricky gapless rings and easy task. If you ever can get a pass to SEMA it is an amazing trade show and well worth the 10 miles you will walk looking at all the cool kit. Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Nov 10 10:36:07 2017 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 17:36:07 +0000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 Mk II Frame? Hey, I gotta ask - does anybody have a good GT6 Mk II frame lying around that they don't need? I'm working on my dad's Mk I GT6 race car, deleting the swing axles, and need the rotoflex-type frame. His solution (a reasonable one) was to take a spare GT6 Mk III frame that I had lying around and use that. But there are some complications with bolting the Mk I body and bonnet to the Mk III frame, so if somebody's got a Mk II frame around, it might make sense to start with that instead. Scott (B.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Fri Nov 10 11:59:16 2017 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud R) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:59:16 -0700 Subject: [Fot] GT-6 front susp/hubs and brakes References: <15f72f8a2f9-c12-8104@webjas-vae086.srv.aolmail.net> Hi Rick, If you still have them I?m interested in hubs and axles. Who manufactured them, details, etc. and pics would be great. Also what you?re asking for them and the other parts listed. Who makes the pads? Thanks Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 31, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Richard Kristoff via Fot wrote: > I have a GT-6 parts for Spitfire upgrades available: Aluminum Hubs,Billet axles,Rotors,Calipers,Race pads,Nilos seals,spare cal. pistons,Cal. brackets,All bearings ,pins and clips, AND a set of Trunnionless Uprights (Canley)....Hubs are 3/8'studs on one set and 7/16 long on the other... 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URL: From jdolan at voyagerhldgs.com Fri Nov 10 13:33:55 2017 From: jdolan at voyagerhldgs.com (James J Dolan) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:33:55 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TOYOs References: <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1309158399.5391870.1510262077416@mail.yahoo.com> <992FE850-3EB7-4253-B51C-05FB8D74A8A1@me.com> <789992306.16129.1510281642198@mail.yahoo.com> <2AD44632-1644-4F47-A593-9AEEA543DCCA@me.com> For what its worth: The Kastner 1972 GT6 runs Toyo?s and is setup at 3 degrees negative and has been running a welded rear. The Group 44 1972 GT6 is 2.25 negative running on Hoosiers with a posi rear Both these cars handle well, slide well and have not ?snap rolled? on me in years. The comment earlier on Avons is interesting. I looked at the web site for them and might try a set. I run Avons on some of my other cars and they are much more predictive. The edge of grip is much more telegraphed and the warning comes much earlier that the tire will be letting go. They are just expensive. The Hoosier to me grip well - and then all of a sudden they let go. They yelp once and then are gone. They are harder to find the edge without going over the line. From: Fot on behalf of Scott Janzen via Fot Date: Friday, November 10, 2017 at 8:22 AM To: Brian Schirano Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TOYOs My GT6 has a welded rear end. I get virtually all my braking done in a straight line and then am easing on the gas almost immediately in most turns. That pushes the rear end out and steers the car. So, definitely the tires slip, and you can see it from the gummy rubber on them after a run, front and rear. However, on tighter turns, at a certain point if I push it too far, yep, the rear end just comes around. Usually you know when it is coming, but on certain turns or perhaps when this driver is not looking for the signs, it?s been known to happen. Generally not once they are up to temp though. I have heard the Hoosiers are grippier cold, and no question I need two laps at speed to get full grip. Thanks guys, all looks positive for the Toyos. What is this rumor I had heard a couple of times that they stick good, but when they let go you're gone. Is this what you are talking about Scott? I can get a little drift out of the TDs on my GT. Thanks for the input. Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell I?ve run the R888s for years; this year am running the R888Rs, which seem slightly faster and more predictable. If you find R888s at this point they have probably been on the shelf since 2016. The tires wear incredibly well and are consistent. I?ve always been tempted to try the Hoosiers, just for comparison, but what has deterred me are camber settings. The R888s on my GT6 like about 2.5 degrees of negative camber or more, and I?m told the bias plies only want 1 degree or less. Thus, comparative sessions are impractical, and switching is a real commitment. I?ve watched similar cars running on the track with the two types of tires, and my impression of Spridgets, at least, is that on TDs there is a lot more drift in the turns than with the radials. That said, and I am sure that there are differences between the cars and drivers, there are top three Spridgets in VRG on both types of tires. Of course, they have a solid axle in the rear, so the Toyos may not be operating under ideal conditions on those cars. When I talked to Toyo they recommended 2.5-3 degrees of negative camber (even though their website says 1-3). I also hear the radials last longer, though my impression of the R888s is that after 15 heat cycles or so, they lose a little grip and lap times creep up slightly. However, seat of the pants says that is less the case with the new R888Rs. No question the toyos are cheaper - $144 at tire rack, versus $183 for the TDs at Woodman. No recent experience with the RA1s. Hey Guys (and any women out there?) OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or advice for switching from bias ply to radials? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences R888R R888 RA1 Thanks Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fasttr4 at aol.com Fri Nov 10 18:52:52 2017 From: fasttr4 at aol.com (Bruce Lapierre) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:52:52 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6 Mk II Frame? References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA57C6E5479@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Try Scott Harper - - - Team Triumph -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott via Fot To: 'FOT' Sent: Fri, Nov 10, 2017 8:10 pm Subject: [Fot] GT6 Mk II Frame? Hey, I gotta ask ? does anybody have a good GT6 Mk II frame lying around that they don?t need? I?m working on my dad?s Mk I GT6 race car, deleting the swing axles, and need the rotoflex-type frame. His solution (a reasonable one) was to take a spare GT6 Mk III frame that I had lying around and use that. But there are some complications with bolting the Mk I body and bonnet to the Mk III frame, so if somebody?s got a Mk II frame around, it might make sense to start with that instead. Scott (B.) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Sat Nov 11 04:42:09 2017 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 06:42:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] GT6 Mk II Frame? References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA57C6E5479@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <15fa8c79365-c0e-1f03a@webjas-vae136.srv.aolmail.net> I spoke to Scott a week ago and he will be away for a few weeks starting this Monday the 13th, you might try him today however it will be 2 weeks before he said he?d be back. JVV From: Bruce Lapierre via Fot Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 8:52 PM To: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Mk II Frame? Try Scott Harper - - - Team Triumph -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott via Fot To: 'FOT' Sent: Fri, Nov 10, 2017 8:10 pm Subject: [Fot] GT6 Mk II Frame? Hey, I gotta ask ? does anybody have a good GT6 Mk II frame lying around that they don?t need? I?m working on my dad?s Mk I GT6 race car, deleting the swing axles, and need the rotoflex-type frame. His solution (a reasonable one) was to take a spare GT6 Mk III frame that I had lying around and use that. But there are some complications with bolting the Mk I body and bonnet to the Mk III frame, so if somebody?s got a Mk II frame around, it might make sense to start with that instead. Scott (B.) _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rek46 at aol.com Sun Nov 12 09:19:57 2017 From: rek46 at aol.com (Richard Kristoff) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 11:19:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] NOS body parts for sale...Spitfire roundtail I have 2 body parts in the attic,preserved, that would be of good use for someone doing a professional or top-notch restoration for a streetcar.... ? 1.) ?Rear Boot-lid P/N 574400 for a 62 -70 roundtail Spit Mk.1,11,111....marque. It is NOS/ Mint.....from Coventry in red primer with an original Stanpart label as p/n 574400.....never used ,or touched since the "60s....where I acquired it from a Triumph dealer ....... 2.) ? Front lower valence P/N 811676....for Mk111,or other ...It was mint,but previous owner tried to handspray the exterior with something close to the old chocolate metallic...very light coat(can kinda see thru it....back side is red NOS primer.....It is steel,and no dents or damage. was not installed . Has two hanger brackets on it. ? ? I'm sure you can probably buy reproductions,but these are " Original" with provenance.... ? I would entertain any reasonable offers......buyer must pay shipping and any special packing or insurance preferences.......Contact me by phone or email: ?cell 248 470-9523....... REK46 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rek46 at aol.com Sun Nov 12 11:45:42 2017 From: rek46 at aol.com (Richard Kristoff) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 13:45:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] NOS body parts for sale...Spitfire roundtail ? ? In a message dated 11/12/2017 1:35:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, rek46 at aol.com writes: ? Attic of my garage..which is heated and insulated,,,I put them there because they are large parts,and not Racecar parts.....I have a smallish race shop so need all the floorspace I can get....AND,as long as you prompted this thread,I un wrapped the parts (HD cloth curtains)...and rechecked the numbers....Boot has an installed re-inforcement ?which shows as 806831 in the book as seperate item....and The one I have has a pre-installed re-inf full tubular structure....The ?outer shell shows part 575787....I was using my old dealer parts manual but apparently you could get it with the re-inf. bolted in and different number total...the re-inf shows as 806831 ,plus a bunch of other p/n's for the nuts and bolts......I have the parts manual that shows all this and it could be scanned and sent if that is a concern....Otherwise,trust me ,it is original NOS as sent to dealer....sometimes in those days they sold body items from a "collision manual" for the dealers only...any other questions, I'll try to answer.....THESE ARE NOT VIC BRIT parts.......rick ? By the way...I'd be curious what "image" you get.....from my attic?.....Are you on 'Ghost Hunters " TV channel, or Long Island Medium? ? In a message dated 11/12/2017 12:23:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, tarch at bellsouth.net writes: ? When I see an email of somebody storing body parts in the attic, I get a mental image of something far removed from old English sports cars. .......but, then again..... Richard L. Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kristoff via Fot Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 11:20 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] NOS body parts for sale...Spitfire roundtail I have 2 body parts in the attic,preserved, that would be of good use for someone doing a professional or top-notch restoration for a streetcar.... 1.) Rear Boot-lid P/N 574400 for a 62 -70 roundtail Spit Mk.1,11,111....marque. It is NOS/ Mint.....from Coventry in red primer with an original Stanpart label as p/n 574400.....never used ,or touched since the "60s....where I acquired it from a Triumph dealer ....... 2.) Front lower valence P/N 811676....for Mk111,or other ...It was mint,but previous owner tried to handspray the exterior with something close to the old chocolate metallic...very light coat(can kinda see thru it....back side is red NOS primer.....It is steel,and no dents or damage. was not installed . Has two hanger brackets on it. I'm sure you can probably buy reproductions,but these are " Original" with provenance.... I would entertain any reasonable offers......buyer must pay shipping and any special packing or insurance preferences.......Contact me by phone or email: cell 248 470-9523....... REK46 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Morrison via Fot To: Healeys ; Erik Jacobsen ; skeppler1962 ; fot Sent: Tue, Nov 14, 2017 3:36 pm Subject: [Fot] Why my Healey parts aren't selling on ebay Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM https://www.ebay.com/itm/Austin-Healey-Spindles-Stub-Axles-convert-Big-Healey-Drum-Brakes-To-Disc-100-6/322881000775?hash=item4b2d351547:g:vxsAAOSwcaFZHgH~&vxp=mtr Austin Healey Spindles Stub Axles,(convert Big Healey Drum Brakes To Disc),100 6 | eBay www.ebay.com If you have the old drum style brakes ,YOU KNOW they are "risky " at best! The lower a-arms were not usable & have been cut off. | eBay! Sent from Outlook _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Nov 14 18:59:02 2017 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:59:02 -0600 Subject: [Fot] "GT40" lifters mail.com> References: They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. Regards, Tony At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: >Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using >what I think were referred to as GT40 liofters >[tappets].? They are slightly larger in >diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with >my car, but have never been used.? Does anyone >know of there and the modification [or where I >might have read about them?].? Also, they are for sale. > >Thanks, > >Chuck >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com From kaskastner at gmail.com Tue Nov 14 22:02:42 2017 From: kaskastner at gmail.com (Kas Kastner) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:02:42 -0800 Subject: [Fot] "GT40" lifters References: <20171115015907.6B4691C0599@relay.mailchannels.net> They are shown in my first book The Prep Handbook on page 74. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by > using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the > cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the > full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. > > I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. > > Regards, Tony > > At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: > >> Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using what I think were referred >> to as GT40 liofters [tappets].? They are slightly larger in diameter than >> stock TR6 ones.? A set came with my car, but have never been used.? Does >> anyone know of there and the modification [or where I might have read about >> them?].? Also, they are for sale. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >> options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/kaskastner at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Morrison via Fot To: Healeys ; Erik Jacobsen ; skeppler1962 at comcast.net ; fot Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:56 AM Subject: [Fot] Why my Healey parts aren't selling on ebay Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM https://www.ebay.com/itm/Austin-Healey-Spindles-Stub-Axles-convert-Big-Healey-Drum-Brakes-To-Disc-100-6/322881000775?hash=item4b2d351547:g:vxsAAOSwcaFZHgH~&vxp=mtr Austin Healey Spindles Stub Axles,(convert Big Healey Drum Brakes To Disc),100 6 | eBay www.ebay.com If you have the old drum style brakes ,YOU KNOW they are "risky " at best! The lower a-arms were not usable & have been cut off. | eBay! Sent from Outlook ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly at mitchelplumbing.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william.tobin31 at verizon.net Tue Nov 14 17:05:05 2017 From: william.tobin31 at verizon.net (Bill Tobin) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:05:05 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Why my Healey parts aren't selling on ebay References: Never mind that Healey crap; how much for the little girl? (Use John Balushi's voice from Animal house ((I think)). It's all in the advertising! Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry A. Morrison via Fot To: Healeys ; Erik Jacobsen ; skeppler1962 at comcast.net ; fot Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:56 AM Subject: [Fot] Why my Healey parts aren't selling on ebay Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM https://www.ebay.com/itm/Austin-Healey-Spindles-Stub-Axles-convert-Big-Healey-Drum-Brakes-To-Disc-100-6/322881000775?hash=item4b2d351547:g:vxsAAOSwcaFZHgH~&vxp=mtr Austin Healey Spindles Stub Axles,(convert Big Healey Drum Brakes To Disc),100 6 | eBay www.ebay.com If you have the old drum style brakes ,YOU KNOW they are "risky " at best! The lower a-arms were not usable & have been cut off. | eBay! Sent from Outlook ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Tue Nov 14 17:27:28 2017 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:27:28 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Why my Healey parts aren't selling on ebay References: ?Is that girl a prostitute?? On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Austin-Healey-Spindles-Stub- > Axles-convert-Big-Healey-Drum-Brakes-To-Disc-100-6/322881000775?hash= > item4b2d351547:g:vxsAAOSwcaFZHgH~&vxp=mtr > > > > Austin Healey Spindles Stub Axles,(convert Big Healey Drum Brakes To > Disc),100 6 | eBay > > www.ebay.com > If you have the old drum style brakes ,YOU KNOW they are "risky " at best! > The lower a-arms were not usable & have been cut off. | eBay! > > > > > Sent from Outlook > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Wed Nov 15 02:56:50 2017 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:56:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] "GT40" lifters References: <20171115015907.6B4691C0599@relay.mailchannels.net> The engine that was in the TR4A that I bought from Bob Kramer has the sleeved tappet bores as pictured in a Kas Kastner book: these tappets have a diameter of 22.17mm.(Standard TR2-4 tappets are 23.76mm, that is 1.6mm wider, so the cams have 0.8mm more room) A friend's TR6 engine I'm working on (for too long, but it will be ready before New Yearr) has the enlarged bores to accept the wider tappets : the diameter of these tappets is exactly the same, also 22.17mm. So I believe both are the "GT40"/Ford tappets. The advantage is that there is a choice of these quality Ford tappets. When you have the tappet bores enlarged in a TR6 engine, it is important to mention to the machine shop that these bores are almost but not dead vertical. Marcel ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "fot" Aan: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" , "fot" Verzonden: Woensdag 15 november 2017 02:59:02 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] "GT40" lifters They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. Regards, Tony At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: >Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using >what I think were referred to as GT40 liofters >[tappets].? They are slightly larger in >diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with >my car, but have never been used.? Does anyone >know of there and the modification [or where I >might have read about them?].? Also, they are for sale. > >Thanks, > >Chuck >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Wed Nov 15 06:38:36 2017 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:38:36 +0000 Subject: [Fot] "GT40" lifters References: <20171115015907.6B4691C0599@relay.mailchannels.net> And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're much larger in diameter than stock. Scott (B.) -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews via Fot Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:59 PM To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley ; Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] "GT40" lifters They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. Regards, Tony At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: >Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using what I think were >referred to as GT40 liofters [tappets].? They are slightly larger in >diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with my car, but have never >been used.? Does anyone know of there and the modification [or where I >might have read about them?].? Also, they are for sale. > >Thanks, > >Chuck >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From rjl at gt-classics.com Wed Nov 15 07:38:51 2017 From: rjl at gt-classics.com (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:38:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] "GT40" lifters References: <20171115015907.6B4691C0599@relay.mailchannels.net> Also, Ken Gillanders used to sell them as a kit with the sleeves for the TR-2/3/4 block. John On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:59:02 -0600, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. Regards, Tony At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: >Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using >what I think were referred to as GT40 liofters >[tappets].? They are slightly larger in >diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with >my car, but have never been used.? Does anyone >know of there and the modification [or where I >might have read about them?].? Also, they are for sale. > >Thanks, > >Chuck >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From tr4abrad at gmail.com Wed Nov 15 10:49:59 2017 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:49:59 -0800 Subject: [Fot] "GT40" lifters References: <20171115015907.6B4691C0599@relay.mailchannels.net> <201711151438.vAFEcpli016492@mail56c28.carrierzone.com> Anyone having to hone the sleeves so the lifters fit? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 15, 2017, at 6:38 AM, R. John Lye via Fot wrote: > > Also, Ken Gillanders used to sell them as a kit with the > sleeves for the TR-2/3/4 block. > > John > > > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:59:02 -0600, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in > place of stock lifters by using a sleeve - in > this case they are smaller than stock. If you > use the cam developed by Larry Young you can't > use those lifters as he needs the full diameter > of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. > > I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. > > Regards, Tony > > At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: >> Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using >> what I think were referred to as GT40 liofters >> [tappets].? They are slightly larger in >> diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with >> my car, but have never been used.? Does anyone >> know of there and the modification [or where I >> might have read about them?].? Also, they are for sale. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl at gt-classics.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From gasket.works at gte.net Wed Nov 15 14:44:24 2017 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 16:44:24 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA57C759F39@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> These stock lifters are larger diameter than triumph. Why would anyone look for large diameter lifters? MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 Fax 626.628.3777 Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 On Wednesday, November 15, 2017, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're much larger in diameter than stock. Scott (B.) -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews via Fot Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:59 PM To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley ; Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] "GT40" lifters They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. Regards, Tony At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: >Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using what I think were >referred to as GT40 liofters [tappets].? They are slightly larger in >diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with my car, but have never >been used.? Does anyone know of there and the modification [or where I >might have read about them?].? Also, they are for sale. > >Thanks, > >Chuck >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From johnstydo at gmail.com Wed Nov 15 15:16:32 2017 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:16:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] "GT40" lifters References: <20171115015907.6B4691C0599@relay.mailchannels.net> <1841038978.48804352.1510739810451.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> ?I don't see how you can run wider tappets in the TR6 without a custom cam with wider lobes. From what I have seen, even the stock cam isn't cast or machined to provide full contact across the width of a stock lifters on the lobe. Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:56 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > The engine that was in the TR4A that I bought from Bob Kramer has the > sleeved tappet bores as pictured in a Kas Kastner book: these tappets have > a diameter of 22.17mm.(Standard TR2-4 tappets are 23.76mm, that is 1.6mm > wider, so the cams have 0.8mm more room) > A friend's TR6 engine I'm working on (for too long, but it will be ready > before New Yearr) has the enlarged bores to accept the wider tappets : the > diameter of these tappets is exactly the same, also 22.17mm. So I believe > both are the "GT40"/Ford tappets. The advantage is that there is a choice > of these quality Ford tappets. When you have the tappet bores enlarged in a > TR6 engine, it is important to mention to the machine shop that these bores > are almost but not dead vertical. > Marcel > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > Van: "fot" > Aan: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" , "fot" < > fot at autox.team.net> > Verzonden: Woensdag 15 november 2017 02:59:02 > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] "GT40" lifters > > They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in > place of stock lifters by using a sleeve - in > this case they are smaller than stock. If you > use the cam developed by Larry Young you can't > use those lifters as he needs the full diameter > of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. > > I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. > > Regards, Tony > > At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: > >Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using > >what I think were referred to as GT40 liofters > >[tappets].? They are slightly larger in > >diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with > >my car, but have never been used.? Does anyone > >know of there and the modification [or where I > >might have read about them?].? 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URL: From Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Wed Nov 15 19:29:03 2017 From: Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:29:03 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA57C759F39@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <15fc1a3e5dd-c0c-494ab@webjas-vac155.srv.aolmail.net> The Peugoet lifters can be used in a TR- block to save a block that has worn lifter bores by having them bored or honed oversize to fit the slightly larger liftters. Greg Solow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mordy Dunst via Fot" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:44 PM Subject: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 > These stock lifters are larger diameter than triumph. Why would anyone > look for large diameter lifters? > > MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 > Fax 626.628.3777 > Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 > T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 > > On Wednesday, November 15, 2017, Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: > > And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're > much larger in diameter than stock. > > Scott (B.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews via > Fot > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:59 PM > To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley ; Friends > > Subject: Re: [Fot] "GT40" lifters > > They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by > using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the > cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the > full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them > though. > > I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. > > Regards, Tony > > At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: >>Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using what I think were >>referred to as GT40 liofters [tappets].? They are slightly larger in >>diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with my car, but have never >>been used.? Does anyone know of there and the modification [or where I >>might have read about them?].? Also, they are for sale. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Chuck >>_______________________________________________ >>fot at autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr at mccarty-law.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com > > > From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Nov 15 19:49:23 2017 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:49:23 -0600 Subject: [Fot] "GT40" lifters References: <20171115015907.6B4691C0599@relay.mailchannels.net> <201711151438.vAFEcpli016492@mail56c28.carrierzone.com> <6B65BA90-4DEE-4D37-A44A-51BDD7B37BF3@gmail.com> That was / is standard for fitting those lifters in the sleeved holes. Kind of a pain to get set up initially, but good quality lifters afterwards - as long as compatible with your cam. Tony At 11:49 AM 11/15/2017, Brad Eells wrote: >Anyone having to hone the sleeves so the lifters fit? > >Brad Eells >Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 15, 2017, at 6:38 AM, R. John Lye via > Fot wrote: > > > > Also, Ken Gillanders used to sell them as a kit with the > > sleeves for the TR-2/3/4 block. > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:59:02 -0600, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > > > They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in > > place of stock lifters by using a sleeve - in > > this case they are smaller than stock. If you > > use the cam developed by Larry Young you can't > > use those lifters as he needs the full diameter > > of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. > > > > I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. > > > > Regards, Tony > > > > At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: > >> Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using > >> what I think were referred to as GT40 liofters > >> [tappets].?? They are slightly larger in > >> diameter than stock TR6 ones.?? A set came with > >> my car, but have never been used.?? Does anyone > >> know of there and the modification [or where I > >> might have read about them?].?? Also, they are for sale. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Chuck > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl at gt-classics.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > > From patrickmannion1 at netzero.com Wed Nov 15 22:06:06 2017 From: patrickmannion1 at netzero.com (patrickmannion1) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:06:06 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 The Peugeot 504 lifters that are very close in size to TR3/4 lifters were from the XN6 gas engines, never had one hardness tested but worked on lots of them at the Peugeot dealer didn't see problems with them.Pat Mannion?Santa Cruz CA Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Greg Solow via Fot Date: 11/15/17 6:29 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Mordy Dunst , fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 The Peugoet lifters can be used in a TR- block to save a block that has worn lifter bores by having them bored or honed oversize to fit the slightly larger liftters. ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????? Greg Solow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mordy Dunst via Fot" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:44 PM Subject: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 > These stock lifters are larger diameter than triumph. Why would anyone > look for large diameter lifters? > > MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 > Fax 626.628.3777 > Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 > T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 > > On Wednesday, November 15, 2017, Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: > > And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're > much larger in diameter than stock. > > Scott (B.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews via > Fot > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:59 PM > To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley ; Friends > > Subject: Re: [Fot] "GT40" lifters > > They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by > using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the > cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the > full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them > though. > > I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. > > Regards, Tony > > At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: >>Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using what I think were >>referred to as GT40 liofters [tappets].? They are slightly larger in >>diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with my car, but have never >>been used.? Does anyone know of there and the modification [or where I >>might have read about them?].? Also, they are for sale. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Chuck >>_______________________________________________ >>fot at autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr at mccarty-law.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com > > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ____________________________________________________________ I Felt Like A Snake That Had Swallowed A Watermelon Activated You http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/5a0d1cc2ac8441cc117cest02duc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofracer at gmail.com Thu Nov 16 06:47:48 2017 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:47:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA57C759F39@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <15fc1a3e5dd-c0c-494ab@webjas-vac155.srv.aolmail.net> "And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're much larger in diameter than stock." Now you have my interest, I have a small block 1296 block with worn lifter bores and my engine builder couldn't find a slightly larger lifter. I'm guessing he didn't look at a Peugeot parts catalog. Does anyone have a lifter part number or a spec so I can investigate bringing this block back from the dead? It was mentioned that the TR bores holes are not parallel to the block, are the small journal 1296 bore the same? thanks mike h On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Mordy Dunst via Fot wrote: > These stock lifters are larger diameter than triumph. Why would anyone > look for large diameter lifters? > > MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 > Fax 626.628.3777 > Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 > T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 > > On Wednesday, November 15, 2017, Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: > > And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're > much larger in diameter than stock. > > Scott (B.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews via > Fot > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:59 PM > To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley ; Friends < > fot at autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [Fot] "GT40" lifters > > They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by > using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the > cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the > full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. > > I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. > > Regards, Tony > > At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: > >Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using what I think were > >referred to as GT40 liofters [tappets].? They are slightly larger in > >diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with my car, but have never > >been used.? Does anyone know of there and the modification [or where I > >might have read about them?].? 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URL: From gt6steve at aol.com Thu Nov 16 09:51:41 2017 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:51:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 Please take this with a grain of salt but I recall the lifter bores to be at 5 degrees off vertical. Measured a long time ago so if someone can verify that it would be safer for all LOL -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harmuth via Fot To: FoTTriumph Sent: Thu, Nov 16, 2017 8:18 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 "And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're much larger in diameter than stock." Now you have my interest, I have a small block 1296 block with worn lifter bores and my engine builder couldn't find a slightly larger lifter. I'm guessing he didn't look at a Peugeot parts catalog. Does anyone have a lifter part number or a spec so I can investigate bringing this block back from the dead? It was mentioned that the TR bores holes are not parallel to the block, are the small journal 1296 bore the same? thanks mike h On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Mordy Dunst via Fot wrote: These stock lifters are larger diameter than triumph. Why would anyone look for large diameter lifters? MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 Fax 626.628.3777 Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 On Wednesday, November 15, 2017, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're much larger in diameter than stock. Scott (B.) -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews via Fot Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:59 PM To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley ; Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] "GT40" lifters They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. Regards, Tony At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: >Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using what I think were >referred to as GT40 liofters [tappets].? They are slightly larger in >diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with my car, but have never >been used.? Does anyone know of there and the modification [or where I >might have read about them?].? 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URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Nov 16 10:55:02 2017 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:55:02 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 References: <15fc5be40bd-c0e-2049@webjas-vae169.srv.aolmail.net> That?s what we heard from the machinist who bored my Spitfire block for the larger lifters. Scott (B.) From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Smith via Fot Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 10:52 AM To: ofracer at gmail.com; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 Please take this with a grain of salt but I recall the lifter bores to be at 5 degrees off vertical. Measured a long time ago so if someone can verify that it would be safer for all LOL -----Original Message----- Sent: Thu, Nov 16, 2017 8:18 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 "And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're much larger in diameter than stock." Now you have my interest, I have a small block 1296 block with worn lifter bores and my engine builder couldn't find a slightly larger lifter. I'm guessing he didn't look at a Peugeot parts catalog. Does anyone have a lifter part number or a spec so I can investigate bringing this block back from the dead? It was mentioned that the TR bores holes are not parallel to the block, are the small journal 1296 bore the same? thanks mike h These stock lifters are larger diameter than triumph. Why would anyone look for large diameter lifters? MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 Fax 626.628.3777 Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're much larger in diameter than stock. Scott (B.) -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] "GT40" lifters They are commonly used in the TR-2/3/4 block in place of stock lifters by using a sleeve - in this case they are smaller than stock. If you use the cam developed by Larry Young you can't use those lifters as he needs the full diameter of the stock lifter. The Elgin cams work OK with them though. I'd not heard of using them in a TR-6 until now though. Regards, Tony At 01:02 PM 11/14/2017, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley via Fot wrote: >Somewhere in a Triumph post I read about using what I think were >referred to as GT40 liofters [tappets].? They are slightly larger in >diameter than stock TR6 ones.? A set came with my car, but have never >been used.? Does anyone know of there and the modification [or where I >might have read about them?].? 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Ken deducted the soft lifters were the cause most of the time, and came up with the ones he would supply to us. The first symptoms would come up when you did a valve lash check, and you found one, or several, valves having an abnormally wide clearance, In extreme cases, you probably felt a loss of performance. If the lifters were soft, the wear was on the lifter. Too hard, or in some cases, soft cam grinds, the cam lobes would be worn off. Either way, the damage could be extensive. An oil sample would indicate metal in the oil, from the cam lobe, or lifter base, basically being worn off. The cams, and some lifters' were a ground, machined, casting, not billet, so they were extremely fine "grindings' that would not be trapped by the oil filter. Once through the filter, the bearings, pistons, rings, cylinder bore, etc. took the beating. Kind of a slow death of the engine!! > Unfortunately, we had quite a few Kaestner cams that were ruined....Once we ran the reground, hardened cams and GT40 lifters, our cam issues there went away. By the way, the original Triumph factory lifters were very good. The after market pieces available were the issue. For what it is worth, the regrind work we used, was done by Crower cams. As I mentioned earlier, Ken and Babe Erson worked together on some of his cam/lifter stuff.. > > I hope this helps, Kevin > >> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote: >> Kevin... >> >> Note, Richard Taylor's question below. >> >> Richard is an interesting guy. He's an architect from Georgia, who drives his 'street looking' TR4 to race events, towing a small trailer with his motorcycle, race tires, and tools on board. When he gets to the track, he unloads, puts the race tires on the car, and goes racing. For what appears to be a mildly prepared TR4...he goes FAST. >> >> He is most famous for being part of a team that recovered one of a half dozen famous WWII fighter airplanes, which crashed in Greenland, after running out of fuel on their way to Iceland. They crash landed on the ice, the crews were rescued, but the airplanes (two bomber, and six fighters), were absorbed by the iceberg. That quest to recover those airplanes nearly cost him his business, home, etc. They finally did recover one of the airplanes. They had to dismantle it in order to get it out of the iceberg. When they got it out, they could not afford to restore it. Some Texas millionaires took over the project, restored the plane. >> >> It is a very interesting story. If you have further interest, google "Glacier Girl". >> >> Bill >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Taylor >> To: Bill Dentinger >> Sent: Thu, Nov 16, 2017 10:48 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT40 lifters >> >> What are the symptoms of lifter related problems? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote: >> >> Amici... >> >> I contacted Kevin Potter, our engine builder/mechanic for most of our thirty-six years of racing concerning the Ford GT40 lifter option. He said at the time, we (and others) were experiencing lifter related failures due to the lack of consistent metallurgy for the lifters Ken Gillanders was obtaining and selling at the time. Some were real hard, others were real soft. Ken was seeking an alternative, probably via Erson, and came up with what turned out to be the Ford GT40 lifter. It was a perfect match, except for its smaller diameter, which was addressed with a bushing. It was a fix and we never experienced another lifter related failure thereafter. >> >> Bill Dentinger >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tarch at bellsouth.net >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Nov 17 05:49:13 2017 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 07:49:13 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Peugeot lifters 504 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA57C759F39@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <15fc1a3e5dd-c0c-494ab@webjas-vac155.srv.aolmail.net> The discussion on lifters is of interest to me. I?d like to see some independent verification of the recent statement regarding lifter bore being at some angle relative to the cam bore. What I believe is the bores are perpendicular to the cam bore but offset from lobe centerline to facilitate lifter rotation. I recently did some research on cams and lifters for the wet sleeve engines and have concluded that factory stock cams and lifters are ground flat and lifter bores are offset to facilitate lifter rotation. My bases for the conclusion is via verification at a cam grinder that the stock lobes (and my Kastner D cam) are ground flat by installing several OE cams between centers in the cam grinders equipment and sweeping a dial indicator across the lobes and the heals which verified dead flat grind. With regard to lifters I took several used but known to be OE lifters that were in good shape and placed them end to end, there was no rocking and they mated as though they were lapped together. I did the same with new lifters from a well know supplier and placed them end to end and they rocked showing a slight radius. These radiused lifters combined with a flat cam are not matched for lifter rotation and can lead to rapid cam and lifter wear. If using a cam that has a taper ground lobe with the radiused lifters you will get rotation. I have no idea what effect on wear an offset lifter bore has with a tapered lobe cam and radiused lifter. Maybe someone else can comment on that. Perhaps this is old news to many racers but I suspect that some engines have been built with mismatched cams and lifters that led to rapid cam and lifter wear which was wrongly blamed on oil and break-in procedures. JVV From: Mike Harmuth via Fot Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:47 AM To: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 "And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're much larger in diameter than stock." Now you have my interest, I have a small block 1296 block with worn lifter bores and my engine builder couldn't find a slightly larger lifter. I'm guessing he didn't look at a Peugeot parts catalog. Does anyone have a lifter part number or a spec so I can investigate bringing this block back from the dead? It was mentioned that the TR bores holes are not parallel to the block, are the small journal 1296 bore the same? thanks mike h -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tedtsimx at bright.net Fri Nov 17 06:58:30 2017 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 08:58:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Peugeot lifters 504 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA57C759F39@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <15fc1a3e5dd-c0c-494ab@webjas-vac155.srv.aolmail.net> Not sure about lifter bore angle on wet liner engines, but Spit/TR6 variants were on a 4.5 degree angle. Ted On 11/17/2017 7:49 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: > The discussion on lifters is of interest to me. I?d like to see some > independent? verification of the recent statement regarding lifter > bore being at some angle relative to the cam bore. > What I believe is the bores are perpendicular to the cam bore but > offset from lobe centerline to facilitate lifter rotation. I recently > did some research on cams and lifters for the wet sleeve engines and > have concluded that factory stock cams and lifters are ground flat and > lifter bores are offset to facilitate lifter rotation. My bases for > the conclusion is via verification at a cam grinder that the stock > lobes (and my Kastner D cam) are ground flat by installing several OE > cams between centers in the cam grinders equipment and sweeping a dial > indicator across the lobes and the heals which verified dead flat grind. > With regard to lifters I took several used but known to be OE lifters > that were in good shape and placed them end to end, there was no > rocking and they mated as though they were lapped together. I did the > same with new lifters from a well know supplier and placed them end to > end and they rocked showing a slight radius. These radiused lifters > combined with a flat cam are not matched for lifter rotation and can > lead to rapid cam and lifter wear. If using a cam that has a taper > ground lobe with the radiused lifters you will get rotation. > I have no idea what effect on wear an offset lifter bore has with a > tapered lobe cam and radiused lifter. Maybe someone else can comment > on that. > Perhaps this is old news to many racers but I suspect that some > engines have been built with mismatched cams and lifters that led to > rapid cam and lifter wear which was wrongly blamed on oil and break-in > procedures. > JVV > *From:* Mike Harmuth via Fot > *Sent:* Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:47 AM > *To:* FoTTriumph > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 > "And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where > they're much larger in diameter than stock." > > Now you have my interest, I have a small block 1296 block with worn > lifter bores and my engine builder couldn't find a slightly larger > lifter. I'm guessing he didn't look at a Peugeot parts catalog. Does > anyone have a lifter part number or a spec so I can investigate > bringing this block back from the dead? It was mentioned that the TR > bores holes are not parallel to the block, are the small journal 1296 > bore the same? > > thanks > mike h > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx at bright.net > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It was stated as 5 degrees so had to be relative to cylinder bores not cam bore. ?Rather, lifter bore being at an angle relative to the cylinder bores.? From: Jerry Van Vlack Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 7:49 AM To: Mike Harmuth ; FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Peugeot lifters 504 The discussion on lifters is of interest to me. I?d like to see some independent verification of the recent statement regarding lifter bore being at some angle relative to the cam bore. What I believe is the bores are perpendicular to the cam bore but offset from lobe centerline to facilitate lifter rotation. I recently did some research on cams and lifters for the wet sleeve engines and have concluded that factory stock cams and lifters are ground flat and lifter bores are offset to facilitate lifter rotation. My bases for the conclusion is via verification at a cam grinder that the stock lobes (and my Kastner D cam) are ground flat by installing several OE cams between centers in the cam grinders equipment and sweeping a dial indicator across the lobes and the heals which verified dead flat grind. With regard to lifters I took several used but known to be OE lifters that were in good shape and placed them end to end, there was no rocking and they mated as though they were lapped together. I did the same with new lifters from a well know supplier and placed them end to end and they rocked showing a slight radius. These radiused lifters combined with a flat cam are not matched for lifter rotation and can lead to rapid cam and lifter wear. If using a cam that has a taper ground lobe with the radiused lifters you will get rotation. I have no idea what effect on wear an offset lifter bore has with a tapered lobe cam and radiused lifter. Maybe someone else can comment on that. Perhaps this is old news to many racers but I suspect that some engines have been built with mismatched cams and lifters that led to rapid cam and lifter wear which was wrongly blamed on oil and break-in procedures. JVV From: Mike Harmuth via Fot Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:47 AM To: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 "And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're much larger in diameter than stock." Now you have my interest, I have a small block 1296 block with worn lifter bores and my engine builder couldn't find a slightly larger lifter. I'm guessing he didn't look at a Peugeot parts catalog. Does anyone have a lifter part number or a spec so I can investigate bringing this block back from the dead? It was mentioned that the TR bores holes are not parallel to the block, are the small journal 1296 bore the same? thanks mike h -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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His email address: quikrx at yahoo.com Shawn Frank North American Triumphs - Owner Continued Legacy - Owner Spitfire & GT6 Magazine - Editor Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '63 Triumph Spitfire4 (MK1) '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '76 Triumph TR7 Victory Edition '80 Triumph Spitfire 1500 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billdentin at aol.com Sun Nov 19 17:09:19 2017 From: billdentin at aol.com (billdentin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 16:09:19 -0800 Subject: [Fot] If I didn't have so many other priorities... References: Alec... I love it. I had a 1967 TRIUMPH Mountain Cub as a paddock bike for years. It used to get more attention than our race cars. Brian Redman and David Hobbs used to stop by to look at it, and both said they lusted after one in their youth. 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URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Sun Nov 19 22:13:15 2017 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:13:15 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Doug Brown - F Production Spitfire - Cal Club 1970-75 Hello FOT, You may have recently seen a post from Joe Alexander regarding a Spitfire on the west coast with significant competition history. I have had an opportunity, thanks to Joe and Kas to acquire that Spitfire. I have been an FOT member since near the beginning (2001 or so) with a TR4 racer that remains a project. The Spitfire is a 1969 Mk3. Kas told me the car was damaged in transit from the UK and could not be sold as new so he sold it to his friend, Doug Brown for $100. Doug was a graduate engineer and worked with Kas at the West Coast Triumph Competition Department and later at Kastner-Brophy Racing. Doug and Kas along with their wives later enjoyed sailing and racing Contender sailboats. One of those sailboats remains with the FOT family today. Doug began racing with a TR3 in the mid 60's and continued with a TR4 before the Spitfire came along. Doug likely built up the Spitfire in 1969 and began racing it in 1970. By 1971 he was racing competitively with Cal Club, qualified and ran the ARRC race at Road Atlanta that year. He qualified in 1972 and again as the Southern Pacific Division Champion in 1973. Doug and his wife Polly met in 1971 at a race in Utah and traveled the region and country together racing. Doug qualified the car for the ARRC again in 1974 but he and Polly decided to attend the America's Cup yacht race instead. Doug continued to race the car in to the 1975 season and then at some point decided to retire the car due to some changes in the GCR that would have required some significant engineering to remain competitive. The Spitfire sat in his shop ever since. Doug developed a small engine and transmission for an inboard motor aboard sailboats that was very successful and sold hundreds of units. Polly told me that Doug had decided to paint the Spitfire Ford 'Grabber Blue' in 1971 due to a large number of rookies in the class that year and he wanted them to see him coming! The car raced with at least three numbers, 7, 72 and 76. The car has had all of Kas's magic applied to it along with some special work Doug did to develop rear axles of 'unobtainium' as Kas put it. Doug also was apparently one of the few Spitfire racers that developed an overdrive gearbox that would race reliably. I discovered a pump driven transmission cooler in the car...that may have been one of his secrets to success. I was lucky enough to acquire a large stock of spares with the car that I am still in the discovery process with...it's better than Christmas... One of the more fun pieces that came along with the car is a door that is white with the number 3 and FP painted on it. Some discussion with Kas and Mike Cook indicates this door like came from Lee Mueller's car that was destroyed late in the 1969 season. A new car was built up in a matter weeks and won the ARRC. Mike Cook later bought that car, raced it and sold it in 1980...it has since disappeared into the mists of time... The car is complete and incredibly engineered, yet it has sat unattended for at least 42 years. its going to need a good going through to get it moving again alone with current safety system updates. I have been a TR4/4A owner/driver for over 35 years. A Spitfire is a new endeavor for me. I'm going to need a bit of help and advice to breath life back into the car. I will do my best to search the FOT archive to obtain answers before asking a question. I would particularly like to make contact with any Southern California Spitfire racers. Jerry Barker and Joe Siam are names I have been given...anyone else out there? Also anyone who may have been racing with Doug and may have some stories to tell, pictures from that time, race results, programs, etc will be tremendously appreciated. I do have a date to inspect the Cal Club archive in February at Buttonwillow. Doug passed away recently which allowed the opportunity to acquire the car and it's spares. Doug's wife Polly is a terrific lady. Thanks again for any help you can provide as we move forward with the project. I'll attempt to attach a couple of pictures here too. Cheers! -- *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *#76 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: BCE_0009 (Large) - Copy.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 479411 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Fot on behalf of Shawn Frank via Fot Date: Sunday, November 19, 2017 at 6:55 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] FOT nomination I wanted to nominate Ralph Hansen to the FOT list. He has helped many people with getting their Triumphs back in the road. He is wanting to get back into racing a Spitfire. I asked him for a bit of history and he sent me this... Got started with drivers school in Sept of 77 and ran that car in 77,78,79 and 80. I might be able to find a result sheet or two, or possibly a monthly newsletter with results from back then, may take awhile if needed. I'm still active with Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs, currently as an instructor and for the next season the School Chief. I think he would be a great addition to the list. Do I have a second? His email address: quikrx at yahoo.com Shawn Frank North American Triumphs - Owner Continued Legacy - Owner Spitfire & GT6 Magazine - Editor Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '63 Triumph Spitfire4 (MK1) '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '76 Triumph TR7 Victory Edition '80 Triumph Spitfire 1500 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Mon Nov 20 07:04:55 2017 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:04:55 +0000 Subject: [Fot] FOT nomination References: <229271379.1117916.1511135748770.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <229271379.1117916.1511135748770@mail.yahoo.com> Second! I?m familiar with Ralph, as a follow Midwestern Council member and instructor for many years now. Quality guy. I had no idea he had any interest in Spitfires. Scott (B.) From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank via Fot Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 5:56 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] FOT nomination I wanted to nominate Ralph Hansen to the FOT list. He has helped many people with getting their Triumphs back in the road. He is wanting to get back into racing a Spitfire. I asked him for a bit of history and he sent me this... Got started with drivers school in Sept of 77 and ran that car in 77,78,79 and 80. I might be able to find a result sheet or two, or possibly a monthly newsletter with results from back then, may take awhile if needed. I'm still active with Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs, currently as an instructor and for the next season the School Chief. I think he would be a great addition to the list. Do I have a second? Shawn Frank North American Triumphs - Owner Continued Legacy - Owner Spitfire & GT6 Magazine - Editor Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '63 Triumph Spitfire4 (MK1) '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '76 Triumph TR7 Victory Edition '80 Triumph Spitfire 1500 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Mon Nov 20 12:18:31 2017 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (davehogye) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Doug Brown - F Production Spitfire - Cal Club 1970-75 References: Congratulations Brad. Really neat car. You are fortunate to acquire it. Thanks for sharing this news and good luck on getting it back on track. I'll look forward to seeing it. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Eells via Fot" To: "fot" Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:13:15 PM Subject: [Fot] Doug Brown - F Production Spitfire - Cal Club 1970-75 Hello FOT, You may have recently seen a post from Joe Alexander regarding a Spitfire on the west coast with significant competition history. I have had an opportunity, thanks to Joe and Kas to acquire that Spitfire. I have been an FOT member since near the beginning (2001 or so) with a TR4 racer that remains a project. The Spitfire is a 1969 Mk3. Kas told me the car was damaged in transit from the UK and could not be sold as new so he sold it to his friend, Doug Brown for $100. Doug was a graduate engineer and worked with Kas at the West Coast Triumph Competition Department and later at Kastner-Brophy Racing. Doug and Kas along with their wives later enjoyed sailing and racing Contender sailboats. One of those sailboats remains with the FOT family today. Doug began racing with a TR3 in the mid 60's and continued with a TR4 before the Spitfire came along. Doug likely built up the Spitfire in 1969 and began racing it in 1970. By 1971 he was racing competitively with Cal Club, qualified and ran the ARRC race at Road Atlanta that year. He qualified in 1972 and again as the Southern Pacific Division Champion in 1973. Doug and his wife Polly met in 1971 at a race in Utah and traveled the region and country together racing. Doug qualified the car for the ARRC again in 1974 but he and Polly decided to attend the America's Cup yacht race instead. Doug continued to race the car in to the 1975 season and then at some point decided to retire the car due to some changes in the GCR that would have required some significant engineering to remain competitive. The Spitfire sat in his shop ever since. Doug developed a small engine and transmission for an inboard motor aboard sailboats that was very successful and sold hundreds of units. Polly told me that Doug had decided to paint the Spitfire Ford 'Grabber Blue' in 1971 due to a large number of rookies in the class that year and he wanted them to see him coming! The car raced with at least three numbers, 7, 72 and 76. The car has had all of Kas's magic applied to it along with some special work Doug did to develop rear axles of 'unobtainium' as Kas put it. Doug also was apparently one of the few Spitfire racers that developed an overdrive gearbox that would race reliably. I discovered a pump driven transmission cooler in the car...that may have been one of his secrets to success. I was lucky enough to acquire a large stock of spares with the car that I am still in the discovery process with...it's better than Christmas... One of the more fun pieces that came along with the car is a door that is white with the number 3 and FP painted on it. Some discussion with Kas and Mike Cook indicates this door like came from Lee Mueller's car that was destroyed late in the 1969 season. A new car was built up in a matter weeks and won the ARRC. Mike Cook later bought that car, raced it and sold it in 1980...it has since disappeared into the mists of time... The car is complete and incredibly engineered, yet it has sat unattended for at least 42 years. its going to need a good going through to get it moving again alone with current safety system updates. I have been a TR4/4A owner/driver for over 35 years. A Spitfire is a new endeavor for me. I'm going to need a bit of help and advice to breath life back into the car. I will do my best to search the FOT archive to obtain answers before asking a question. I would particularly like to make contact with any Southern California Spitfire racers. Jerry Barker and Joe Siam are names I have been given...anyone else out there? Also anyone who may have been racing with Doug and may have some stories to tell, pictures from that time, race results, programs, etc will be tremendously appreciated. I do have a date to inspect the Cal Club archive in February at Buttonwillow. Doug passed away recently which allowed the opportunity to acquire the car and it's spares. Doug's wife Polly is a terrific lady. Thanks again for any help you can provide as we move forward with the project. I'll attempt to attach a couple of pictures here too. Cheers! -- Brad Eells Chino CA #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 #76 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Mon Nov 20 16:01:54 2017 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:01:54 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Doug Brown - F Production Spitfire - Cal Club 1970-75 References: <36566341.91504250.1511205511855.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Looks like we will be getting two more guys on the track, with Triumphs, sooner or later. Another one in Portland, as Doug Brown?s TR3 is going up there a week from Wednesday. Me? Kas? Racing Sailboat of the 70s was in California last Week. It is now in Iowa being refurbished. I have a very excited family. Congratulations Brad. I think you made a good decision. And thanks to you and Randall Young for the support and help. Polly and Kas are very pleased. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Nov 20, 2017, at 1:18 PM, davehogye via Fot wrote: > > Congratulations Brad. Really neat car. You are fortunate to acquire it. Thanks for sharing this news and good luck on getting it back on track. I'll look forward to seeing it. > > Dave H. > > From: "Brad Eells via Fot" > To: "fot" > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:13:15 PM > Subject: [Fot] Doug Brown - F Production Spitfire - Cal Club 1970-75 > > Hello FOT, > > You may have recently seen a post from Joe Alexander regarding a Spitfire on the west coast with significant competition history. > > I have had an opportunity, thanks to Joe and Kas to acquire that Spitfire. I have been an FOT member since near the beginning (2001 or so) with a TR4 racer that remains a project. > > The Spitfire is a 1969 Mk3. Kas told me the car was damaged in transit from the UK and could not be sold as new so he sold it to his friend, Doug Brown for $100. Doug was a graduate engineer and worked with Kas at the West Coast Triumph Competition Department and later at Kastner-Brophy Racing. Doug and Kas along with their wives later enjoyed sailing and racing Contender sailboats. One of those sailboats remains with the FOT family today. > > Doug began racing with a TR3 in the mid 60's and continued with a TR4 before the Spitfire came along. Doug likely built up the Spitfire in 1969 and began racing it in 1970. By 1971 he was racing competitively with Cal Club, qualified and ran the ARRC race at Road Atlanta that year. He qualified in 1972 and again as the Southern Pacific Division Champion in 1973. > > Doug and his wife Polly met in 1971 at a race in Utah and traveled the region and country together racing. Doug qualified the car for the ARRC again in 1974 but he and Polly decided to attend the America's Cup yacht race instead. Doug continued to race the car in to the 1975 season and then at some point decided to retire the car due to some changes in the GCR that would have required some significant engineering to remain competitive. The Spitfire sat in his shop ever since. Doug developed a small engine and transmission for an inboard motor aboard sailboats that was very successful and sold hundreds of units. > > Polly told me that Doug had decided to paint the Spitfire Ford 'Grabber Blue' in 1971 due to a large number of rookies in the class that year and he wanted them to see him coming! The car raced with at least three numbers, 7, 72 and 76. > > The car has had all of Kas's magic applied to it along with some special work Doug did to develop rear axles of 'unobtainium' as Kas put it. Doug also was apparently one of the few Spitfire racers that developed an overdrive gearbox that would race reliably. I discovered a pump driven transmission cooler in the car...that may have been one of his secrets to success. I was lucky enough to acquire a large stock of spares with the car that I am still in the discovery process with...it's better than Christmas... > > One of the more fun pieces that came along with the car is a door that is white with the number 3 and FP painted on it. Some discussion with Kas and Mike Cook indicates this door like came from Lee Mueller's car that was destroyed late in the 1969 season. A new car was built up in a matter weeks and won the ARRC. Mike Cook later bought that car, raced it and sold it in 1980...it has since disappeared into the mists of time... > > The car is complete and incredibly engineered, yet it has sat unattended for at least 42 years. its going to need a good going through to get it moving again alone with current safety system updates. I have been a TR4/4A owner/driver for over 35 years. A Spitfire is a new endeavor for me. I'm going to need a bit of help and advice to breath life back into the car. I will do my best to search the FOT archive to obtain answers before asking a question. > > I would particularly like to make contact with any Southern California Spitfire racers. Jerry Barker and Joe Siam are names I have been given...anyone else out there? Also anyone who may have been racing with Doug and may have some stories to tell, pictures from that time, race results, programs, etc will be tremendously appreciated. I do have a date to inspect the Cal Club archive in February at Buttonwillow. > > Doug passed away recently which allowed the opportunity to acquire the car and it's spares. Doug's wife Polly is a terrific lady. > > Thanks again for any help you can provide as we move forward with the project. I'll attempt to attach a couple of pictures here too. > > Cheers! > > -- > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > #76 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have found over the years, almost every single wet sleeve engine which we torn down had at least 2, sometimes 3 lifters that were not rotating. Usually these lifters were near the rear of the block. The wear pattern they wouldl develop looked like a butterfly on the bottom of the lifter. They had been occilating, not rotating! We did some research with the cam grinder that we have been working with for over 35 years now, and have concluded that if the cam lobes are reground with a taper, & the lifters are ground with a matching taper, then the lifters will rotate reliably and cam and lifter life will be dramatically exteneded. This of course assumes that the lifters are at least Rc 55 or so as were the originals. Thecam lobes are tapered in pairs, each pair tapered toward each other so as to match the offset of the lifter bores from the cam lobes. This requires grinding the cam lobes in two different set ups with the grinding wheel of the cam grinder set to taper 4 lobes in one direction and 4 lobes in the other direction. Thus the thrust developed by the cam/lifter offset is equel and the only fore and aft load on the cam is from the oil pump drive gear. . All of the cams that we have had reground in the last 30 years have all had tapered lobes. Greg Solow The Engine Room ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Van Vlack via Fot To: Mike Harmuth ; FoTTriumph Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Peugeot lifters 504 The discussion on lifters is of interest to me. I?d like to see some independent verification of the recent statement regarding lifter bore being at some angle relative to the cam bore. What I believe is the bores are perpendicular to the cam bore but offset from lobe centerline to facilitate lifter rotation. I recently did some research on cams and lifters for the wet sleeve engines and have concluded that factory stock cams and lifters are ground flat and lifter bores are offset to facilitate lifter rotation. My bases for the conclusion is via verification at a cam grinder that the stock lobes (and my Kastner D cam) are ground flat by installing several OE cams between centers in the cam grinders equipment and sweeping a dial indicator across the lobes and the heals which verified dead flat grind. With regard to lifters I took several used but known to be OE lifters that were in good shape and placed them end to end, there was no rocking and they mated as though they were lapped together. I did the same with new lifters from a well know supplier and placed them end to end and they rocked showing a slight radius. These radiused lifters combined with a flat cam are not matched for lifter rotation and can lead to rapid cam and lifter wear. If using a cam that has a taper ground lobe with the radiused lifters you will get rotation. I have no idea what effect on wear an offset lifter bore has with a tapered lobe cam and radiused lifter. Maybe someone else can comment on that. Perhaps this is old news to many racers but I suspect that some engines have been built with mismatched cams and lifters that led to rapid cam and lifter wear which was wrongly blamed on oil and break-in procedures. JVV From: Mike Harmuth via Fot Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:47 AM To: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Peugot lifters 504 "And they've been used in at least one 1296 Spitfire engine, where they're much larger in diameter than stock." Now you have my interest, I have a small block 1296 block with worn lifter bores and my engine builder couldn't find a slightly larger lifter. I'm guessing he didn't look at a Peugeot parts catalog. Does anyone have a lifter part number or a spec so I can investigate bringing this block back from the dead? It was mentioned that the TR bores holes are not parallel to the block, are the small journal 1296 bore the same? thanks mike h ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com Mon Nov 20 21:14:02 2017 From: Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Greg Solow) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 20:14:02 -0800 Subject: [Fot] TR-3 Anti-Sway bar kits Just a note to everyone who ordered sway bar kits. They have now been ordered. The bars are scheduled to be bent this week. The mounting hardware will take a couple more weeks because we insisted that all of the hardware be gold cad plated, not powder coated. This is so that where parts are bolted together & are not supposed to move there will not be a powder coat layer that can rub through allowing things to loosen up. We are looking to be able to ship the bars within 3 weeks to a month from now. Greg Solow The Engine Room 831 429-1800 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tedtsimx at bright.net Wed Nov 22 07:54:17 2017 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:54:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] archive help needed Hi List.? We are trying to find a copy of Auto Week dated Sept. 6, 1982.? This was when Auto Week was still in newspaper format. There is a 2 page Goodyear ad that features our cars.? I have one but it has been torn in half leaving only 1 of the 2 pages.? Only need it scanned. Do not need entire paper unless you can spare it. Thanks in advance. Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From kkjjk at aol.com Wed Nov 22 10:46:57 2017 From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 12:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] archive help needed References: <16028cf8-ec93-d762-4208-39db30f740b2@bright.net> eBay item number: 372020074169 Try this link, Ted- I think this is what you are looking for. Thanks!-- Jay De Pol -----Original Message----- From: Ted Schumacher via Fot To: FOT Sent: Wed, Nov 22, 2017 10:37 am Subject: [Fot] archive help needed Hi List. We are trying to find a copy of Auto Week dated Sept. 6, 1982. This was when Auto Week was still in newspaper format. There is a 2 page Goodyear ad that features our cars. 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URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 23 10:43:44 2017 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 1967-68 Triumph Parts List References: <2073922953.21952593.1507746390696.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <2139461867.21986647.1507748226208.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Someplace along with my many Triumph purchases over the last 50 or so years, I picked up a copy of an official factory publication, in the original 3 ring binder, of the 1967-68 parts list for "Standard-Triumph Motor Company parts.? It is listed by part number and shows both retail and dealer prices.? It is about an inch thiock, and is in generally good shape, considering it's age.? The only defect is that the hard cover is slightly curved and apparently stained.? The pages are all readable, and in excellent condition. I have no use for this document and am offering it to anyone on the FOT list who might be able to find a use for it.? All I'm asking for is a donation to cover the shipping and handling costs.? I'll leave it up to anyone interested to determine what that is. Thanks. Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gasket.works at gte.net Thu Nov 23 16:34:55 2017 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 18:34:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1967-68 Triumph Parts List References: <502613214.897094.1511459024082@mail.yahoo.com> Probably best to purchase then copy onto pdf and place it on web site for anyone who wants to see. Mordy MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 Fax 626.628.3777 Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 On Thursday, November 23, 2017, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: Someplace along with my many Triumph purchases over the last 50 or so years, I picked up a copy of an official factory publication, in the original 3 ring binder, of the 1967-68 parts list for "Standard-Triumph Motor Company parts. It is listed by part number and shows both retail and dealer prices. It is about an inch thiock, and is in generally good shape, considering it's age. The only defect is that the hard cover is slightly curved and apparently stained. The pages are all readable, and in excellent condition. I have no use for this document and am offering it to anyone on the FOT list who might be able to find a use for it. All I'm asking for is a donation to cover the shipping and handling costs. I'll leave it up to anyone interested to determine what that is. Thanks. Jack _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From billdentin at aol.com Fri Nov 24 09:02:32 2017 From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:02:32 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1967-68 Triumph Parts List Amici... I am sure Jack Wheeler's offer will be highly appreciated by a TRIUMPH memorabilia collector, but Mordy's idea to then copy it and put it on FOT's website for the Good of the Order is a great idea. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Mordy Dunst via Fot To: fot Sent: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 12:57 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 1967-68 Triumph Parts List Probably best to purchase then copy onto pdf and place it on web site for anyone who wants to see. Mordy MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 Fax 626.628.3777 Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 On Thursday, November 23, 2017, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: Someplace along with my many Triumph purchases over the last 50 or so years, I picked up a copy of an official factory publication, in the original 3 ring binder, of the 1967-68 parts list for "Standard-Triumph Motor Company parts. It is listed by part number and shows both retail and dealer prices. It is about an inch thiock, and is in generally good shape, considering it's age. The only defect is that the hard cover is slightly curved and apparently stained. The pages are all readable, and in excellent condition. I have no use for this document and am offering it to anyone on the FOT list who might be able to find a use for it. All I'm asking for is a donation to cover the shipping and handling costs. I'll leave it up to anyone interested to determine what that is. Thanks. Jack _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com Fri Nov 24 13:25:16 2017 From: Spitfire_Racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 15:25:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 1967-68 Triumph Parts List References: <15feb3bef45-171e-7771@webjas-vaa150.srv.aolmail.net> <15feec42306-1f8a-1057@webjas-vad134.srv.aolmail.net> I sent Jack an email two days ago with that very intention; buy/pay for it and scan and have it available for all. Historical stuff needs to be made available for all to see. Haven?t heard anything so I suppose it is gone. Whoever it is I hope they feel as many of us do. Russ From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Dentinger via Fot Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 11:03 AM To: Subject: Re: [Fot] 1967-68 Triumph Parts List Amici... I am sure Jack Wheeler's offer will be highly appreciated by a TRIUMPH memorabilia collector, but Mordy's idea to then copy it and put it on FOT's website for the Good of the Order is a great idea. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Mordy Dunst via Fot To: fot Sent: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 12:57 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 1967-68 Triumph Parts List Probably best to purchase then copy onto pdf and place it on web site for anyone who wants to see. Mordy MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 Fax 626.628.3777 Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 T FFL 6,7 SOT 2 On Thursday, November 23, 2017, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: Someplace along with my many Triumph purchases over the last 50 or so years, I picked up a copy of an official factory publication, in the original 3 ring binder, of the 1967-68 parts list for "Standard-Triumph Motor Company parts. It is listed by part number and shows both retail and dealer prices. It is about an inch thiock, and is in generally good shape, considering it's age. The only defect is that the hard cover is slightly curved and apparently stained. The pages are all readable, and in excellent condition. I have no use for this document and am offering it to anyone on the FOT list who might be able to find a use for it. All I'm asking for is a donation to cover the shipping and handling costs. I'll leave it up to anyone interested to determine what that is. Thanks. Jack _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From biznzman at pacbell.net Sat Nov 25 03:56:35 2017 From: biznzman at pacbell.net (Stephen Borowski) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 05:56:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Need TR4 Figure Eight Cyl Gaskets Hello All, Anyone have a set of the steel/aluminum figure eight cylinder gaskets for the TR 3/4 they would sell? The copper ones are .025 thick and the others are .015 thick. I need a set of the thin ones. Thank You, Steve Florida TR4 Racer From tony at tonydrews.com Sat Nov 25 11:08:08 2017 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:08:08 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Need TR4 Figure Eight Cyl Gaskets References: I've got an extra pair of the thinner steel ones you can have for the price of shipping. Regards, Tony Drews At 04:56 AM 11/25/2017, Stephen Borowski via Fot wrote: >Hello All, >Anyone have a set of the steel/aluminum figure eight cylinder >gaskets for the TR 3/4 they would sell? The copper ones are .025 >thick and the others are .015 thick. I need a set of the thin ones. > >Thank You, >Steve >Florida TR4 Racer >_______________________________________________ >fot at autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com From smyers at mac.com Sat Nov 25 14:49:02 2017 From: smyers at mac.com (Stephen Myers) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:49:02 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Looking for John Jordan who raced a TR4 References: <20171125180815.9EB8C2C0FCA@relay.mailchannels.net> I bought an old racecar today and it was owned by John Jordan of Ames, IA until 1968. John ran a Triumph TR4 in the 1968 June sprints at Road America and an MGA before that. Does anyone remember him or know if he is still around? -Steve From tony at tonydrews.com Sat Nov 25 18:04:39 2017 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:04:39 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR-3/4 rocker shafts Who sells the GOOD rocker shafts for wet liner TR-3/4 engines? It needs to be OK for needle bearings to run on. Mine came out in 2 pieces when disassembling this year. TIA Tony Drews From britcars at bellsouth.net Mon Nov 27 04:51:46 2017 From: britcars at bellsouth.net (barry rosenberg) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 11:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR-3/4 rocker shafts References: <20171126010445.C0847640800@relay.mailchannels.net> Didn't NASCAR stop using needle bearing rocker shafts? The needles do not make a full rotation and wear more than bronze bushings. Barry On Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:30 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: Who sells the GOOD rocker shafts for wet liner TR-3/4 engines?? It needs to be OK for needle bearings to run on. Mine came out in 2 pieces when disassembling this year. TIA Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tedtsimx at bright.net Mon Nov 27 08:26:46 2017 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 10:26:46 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR-3/4 rocker shafts References: <20171126010445.C0847640800@relay.mailchannels.net> <986984566.3831936.1511783506750@mail.yahoo.com> Barry, right you are.? Needle bearings by nature lose oil between needles. Plus needles are extremely hard. OK for supporting something that rotates a full 360 but really hard on something that only rocks back and forth in the same quadrant. Many of the rocker mfg.'s have gone away form needle bearings.? Ted On 11/27/2017 6:51 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot wrote: > Didn't NASCAR stop using needle bearing rocker shafts? The needles do > not make a full rotation and wear more than bronze bushings. > > Barry > > > > On Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:30 PM, Tony Drews via Fot > wrote: > > > Who sells the GOOD rocker shafts for wet liner TR-3/4 engines?? It > needs to be OK for needle bearings to run on. > > Mine came out in 2 pieces when disassembling this year. > > TIA > Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx at bright.net > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkrantz77 at comcast.net Mon Nov 27 08:33:48 2017 From: rkrantz77 at comcast.net (Ron KRANTZ) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 10:33:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fot] TR-3/4 rocker shafts References: <20171126010445.C0847640800@relay.mailchannels.net> <986984566.3831936.1511783506750@mail.yahoo.com> Barry & Tony, The biggest enemy in making Hp is friction. The only time a bushing would have less friction than a needle bearing is IF the bearing has a "full compliment" of needles (no cage separator of the needles). With a full compliment needle rocker 2 things happen:1. under load the adjacent needles are touching and trying to rotate in opposite directions at the point of contact (high friction). 2. In a relaxed state a full compliment needle bearing has free space between the rollers. However, under load (full lift in our case) the free space will be concentrated at the bottom of the rocker and the rocker centerline will move up a small amount which is loss of lift at the valve. Solution is to use CAGED needle bearings in the rockers and a proper fit and hardness of the shaft. In the bearing industry (I have 25 years experience) all balls, needles and rollers are hardened to 62~64 Rc. The shaft in our case needs to be 60~62 Rc. The cage also provides a lube path for the rollers. I have been making my own shafts for Spitfires for many years as well as refitting roller rockers with caged needle brgs. . I also fab billet aluminum rocker stands for Spits. Ron Krantz ReK Racing > On November 27, 2017 at 6:51 AM barry rosenberg via Fot wrote: > > Didn't NASCAR stop using needle bearing rocker shafts? The needles do not make a full rotation and wear more than bronze bushings. > > Barry > > > > On Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:30 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > > Who sells the GOOD rocker shafts for wet liner TR-3/4 engines? It > needs to be OK for needle bearings to run on. > > Mine came out in 2 pieces when disassembling this year. > > TIA > Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britcars at bellsouth.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkrantz77 at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Nov 28 18:50:24 2017 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 19:50:24 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Triumph Sales from Doug Brown Estate Thank you....FOT. Three Triumphs Sold Two to FOT. TR3 and Spitfire One to a guy in California. TR4 V8 The TR3 and the Spitfire will find their way back to the Track. Back to their former glory. Doug actually bought the TR3 while a student at Cal-Poly, before racing it in Southern California. The Spitfire was a Regional SCCA Championship car and went to the Runoffs for three years in the 70s. It may be at the 2019 Kastner Cup. That?s the plan. Thank you to everyone that helped, supported, and were interested. Mission accomplished and Kas was able to help the widow of his long term friend and associate, Doug Brown. Regards, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Nov 28 19:02:50 2017 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:02:50 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tan Talk 1340-AM 106.1-FM | Tan Talk 1340 Radio Network FOT, Kas was featured in a great Radio Interview tonight. Triumph to Nissan Years. I wish we could get a recording of it. Mention was made of the Sebring TR4 now in the U.K. If they do another one, it will cover the Kastner Cup. We can all be proud. http://www.tantalk1340.com/ Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From tr4abrad at gmail.com Tue Nov 28 22:45:24 2017 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 21:45:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Tan Talk 1340-AM 106.1-FM | Tan Talk 1340 Radio Network References: <489E01A5-6DD0-4111-B3E3-C8E79B8C9F16@gmail.com> Hey Joe, The station appears to podcast it's shows. Who was the host? I'll bet we can download it! http://www.tantalk1340.com/podcasts/ Brad On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > FOT, > > Kas was featured in a great Radio Interview tonight. Triumph to Nissan > Years. I wish we could get a recording of it. > > Mention was made of the Sebring TR4 now in the U.K. > > If they do another one, it will cover the Kastner Cup. > > We can all be proud. > > > http://www.tantalk1340.com/ > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > -- *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *#76 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Brad *Brad Eells* *Chino CA* *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* *#76 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Stephen Myers via Fot wrote: > I bought an old racecar today and it was owned by John Jordan of Ames, IA > until 1968. > > John ran a Triumph TR4 in the 1968 June sprints at Road America and an MGA > before that. > > Does anyone remember him or know if he is still around? > > -Steve > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wish we could get a recording of it. > Mention was made of the Sebring TR4 now in the U.K. > > If they do another one, it will cover the Kastner Cup. > > We can all be proud. > > > http://www.tantalk1340.com/ > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox. > team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/archiveForums: http://www.team.net/forumsUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ch > arly at mitchelplumbing.com > > > > From robertten1 at aol.com Wed Nov 29 14:40:39 2017 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:40:39 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Pertronix Second Strike Curious, Not sure if I remember if it was a member of our club a while back was looking for a Second Strike Unit for their car. I have been going through my collection of parts in the garage where I keep my racer and came by such a unit. I got this from a fellow racer to maybe use on my car but decided against it for some unknown reason. Lot of money for unused benefit. Whichever I am willing to let it go cheap to a good home of a fellow member. I have a couple photos, I have the Installation Instruction Sheet and it came with a small bag of spare parts. Cheers, Bob T -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Pertronix 2nd Strike -1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 479823 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Pertronix 2nd Strike -2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 448955 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Earls sez the fittings are reuseable. The fittings are the type that slice into the rubber and force the rubber hose on 2 sides of the cutter. They work great and I've never had an issue. BUT, does anyone have an idea as to how to get the cut piece out of the fitting in order to reuse them? The cutter separates a slice about as thick as electrical tape and about a quarter of an inch wide. Of course this piece of rubber hose is pretty well down inside the fitting and I finally managed to get a piece out of one fitting as it was partially pulled out of the fitting. I have no idea how to get the hose out of the remaining fittings (about a dozen or so). THOUGHTS? pullin rubber hose and my hair out in about equal amounts...? ? Nick of Nor Cal | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: