Subject: Re: [Fot] Rover V8s

From: Duncan Charlton <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 12:16:20 -0500

Joe,

I suspect so.  Sources I’ve looked at for Morgan spare parts only list one part number even though the Plus 8 was sold for 35 years with 3.5, 3.9, 4.0 and 4.6 liter engines.  Rimmer Bros. in the UK sells over a dozen types of valve covers but only one size gasket.  Summit sells the same gasket for the Buick 300 and 340 as well.  I suspect you already know that the Oldsmobile version of the alloy block 3.5 had valve covers and heads that were quite different, so I’m pretty sure those gaskets would be different.

Duncan Charlton
Elgin, Texas USA

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Joe Alexander <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Chris, Paul, Ted, Jack,
> 
> Starting with the 3.5 liter engine, do the larger disp. Rover Engines have the same Valve Cover?
> 
> Sean now has a mold for the 3.5 liter valve cover gasket in silicone. 
> 
> 
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I believe that the sanctioning bodys (SCCA,etc.) limit the engine to the
3.9 in the rule book.Other clubs may let you do more, but the guys I know
that race them ( besides the Canadian) run the max of 3.9.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Duncan Charlton <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I suspect so.  Sources I=E2=80=99ve looked at for Morgan spare parts only=
 list one
> part number even though the Plus 8 was sold for 35 years with 3.5, 3.9, 4=
.0
> and 4.6 liter engines.  Rimmer Bros. in the UK sells over a dozen types o=
f
> valve covers but only one size gasket.  Summit sells the same gasket for
> the Buick 300 and 340 as well.  I suspect you already know that the
> Oldsmobile version of the alloy block 3.5 had valve covers and heads that
> were quite different, so I=E2=80=99m pretty sure those gaskets would be d=
ifferent.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I believe that the sanctioning bodys (SCCA,etc.) limit the=
 engine to the 3.9 in the rule book.Other clubs may let you do more, but th=
e guys I know that race them ( besides the Canadian) run the max of 3.9.</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 20=
, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Duncan Charlton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Joe,<br>
<br>
I suspect so.=C2=A0 Sources I=E2=80=99ve looked at for Morgan spare parts o=
nly list one part number even though the Plus 8 was sold for 35 years with =
3.5, 3.9, 4.0 and 4.6 liter engines.=C2=A0 Rimmer Bros. in the UK sells ove=
r a dozen types of valve covers but only one size gasket.=C2=A0 Summit sell=
s the same gasket for the Buick 300 and 340 as well.=C2=A0 I suspect you al=
ready know that the Oldsmobile version of the alloy block 3.5 had valve cov=
ers and heads that were quite different, so I=E2=80=99m pretty sure those g=
askets would be different.<br>
<br>
Duncan Charlton<br>
Elgin, Texas USA<br>
<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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<br>
&gt; On Oct 19, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Joe Alexander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joeal=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><wbr>&gt; wrote:=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Chris, Paul, Ted, Jack,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Starting with the 3.5 liter engine, do the larger disp. Rover Engines =
have the same Valve Cover?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sean now has a mold for the 3.5 liter valve cover gasket in silicone.<=
br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div>&gt; &lt;image1.JPG&gt;<br>
&gt; Joe Alexander<br>
&gt; 645 1st Street<br>
&gt; Jesup, IA 50648<br>
&gt; The-vintage-racer.com<br>
&gt; Gasketinnovations.com<br>
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From: Duncan Charlton <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 19:57:00 -0500

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The 3.9 vs 4.0 is a head-fake on Rover=E2=80=99s part.  Bore and stroke =
is identical but there are a few other differences that matter.  Info on =
the differences here:
http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/40difference.htm

The consistency of the design allowed me to use SD1 heads from a TR8 on =
a 4.0 block with cross-bolted mains, and use the front cover from the =
TR8 so I could use a distributor.

Duncan Charlton
Elgin, Texas USA

> On Oct 20, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Robert Deanes <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I believe that the sanctioning bodys (SCCA,etc.) limit the engine to =
the 3.9 in the rule book.Other clubs may let you do more, but the guys I =
know that race them ( besides the Canadian) run the max of 3.9.
>=20
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Duncan Charlton =
wrote:
> Joe,
>=20
> I suspect so.  Sources I=E2=80=99ve looked at for Morgan spare parts =
only list one part number even though the Plus 8 was sold for 35 years =
with 3.5, 3.9, 4.0 and 4.6 liter engines.  Rimmer Bros. in the UK sells =
over a dozen types of valve covers but only one size gasket.  Summit =
sells the same gasket for the Buick 300 and 340 as well.  I suspect you =
already know that the Oldsmobile version of the alloy block 3.5 had =
valve covers and heads that were quite different, so I=E2=80=99m pretty =
sure those gaskets would be different.
>=20
> Duncan Charlton
> Elgin, Texas USA
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > On Oct 19, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Joe Alexander =
wrote:
> >
> > Chris, Paul, Ted, Jack,
> >
> > Starting with the 3.5 liter engine, do the larger disp. Rover =
Engines have the same Valve Cover?
> >
> > Sean now has a mold for the 3.5 liter valve cover gasket in =
silicone.
> > Cell:  319.464.4711 =
<tel:319.464.4711>_______________________________________________
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">The 3.9 vs 4.0 is a head-fake on Rover=E2=80=99s part. =
&nbsp;Bore and stroke is identical but there are a few other differences =
that matter. &nbsp;Info on the differences here:<div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/40difference.htm" =
class=3D"">http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/40difference.htm</a></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The consistency of the =
design allowed me to use SD1 heads from a TR8 on a 4.0 block with =
cross-bolted mains, and use the front cover from the TR8 so I could use =
a distributor.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">Duncan Charlton</div><div class=3D"">Elgin, Texas =
USA</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br =
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class=3D"">On Oct 20, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Robert Deanes &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">I believe that the sanctioning bodys (SCCA,etc.) =
limit the engine to the 3.9 in the rule book.Other clubs may let you do =
more, but the guys I know that race them ( besides the Canadian) run the =
max of 3.9.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Duncan Charlton =
<span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Joe,<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
I suspect so.&nbsp; Sources I=E2=80=99ve looked at for Morgan spare =
parts only list one part number even though the Plus 8 was sold for 35 =
years with 3.5, 3.9, 4.0 and 4.6 liter engines.&nbsp; Rimmer Bros. in =
the UK sells over a dozen types of valve covers but only one size =
gasket.&nbsp; Summit sells the same gasket for the Buick 300 and 340 as =
well.&nbsp; I suspect you already know that the Oldsmobile version of =
the alloy block 3.5 had valve covers and heads that were quite =
different, so I=E2=80=99m pretty sure those gaskets would be =
different.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Duncan Charlton<br class=3D"">
Elgin, Texas USA<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><div class=3D"h5"><br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
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&gt; On Oct 19, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Joe Alexander &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><wbr class=3D"">&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D"">
&gt;<br class=3D"">
&gt; Chris, Paul, Ted, Jack,<br class=3D"">
&gt;<br class=3D"">
&gt; Starting with the 3.5 liter engine, do the larger disp. Rover =
Engines have the same Valve Cover?<br class=3D"">
&gt;<br class=3D"">
&gt; Sean now has a mold for the 3.5 liter valve cover gasket in =
silicone.<br class=3D"">
&gt;<br class=3D"">
&gt;<br class=3D"">
</div></div>&gt; &lt;image1.JPG&gt;<br class=3D"">
&gt; Joe Alexander<br class=3D"">
&gt; 645 1st Street<br class=3D"">
&gt; Jesup, IA 50648<br class=3D"">
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