Subject: [Fot] Mine's too big!

From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 00:05:05 -0400

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A good buddy of mine asked me to post this request, seems he has a need for=
 a new smaller rack.

So a buddy bought an old sports racer and took it out for a shake down crui=
se. According to him, the steering in the car was "diabolical". He brought =
it around to the shop to see if anything seemed amiss.
Once we removed the front bodywork everything looked pretty normal, and wel=
l attached. I slid a jack under it and started to lift the front end...whoa=
!!! The toe in change had to be measured with a yardstick!
We fooled around with the rack mounts, the tie rod height and angle and got=
 it down to 12" ruler issues!

No matter what we could do, it seemed the bumpsteer was just beyond belief.=
 It looks like the rack that is in there is probably some kind of Triumph u=
nit...spit or GT6 ...maybe even TR4/6/ It measures 18.5" overall for the ho=
using with an approx 1" diameter tube.=C2=A0 At that length the tie rod art=
iculation is half way across the lower a-arms!

I'm guessing it needs a 13" - 15" outer tube to get it within inches of bum=
psteer to start.

SO, can youse guys check and measure whatever racks you have in you cars...=
mg tr rootes...whatever and let me know if you have anything approaching 14=
" tube size or so?

rackin my brain here ...

Im gonna post this on the TR group as well
Bill

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<div style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck;">A good buddy of mine asked me to post this request, seems he has a nee=
d for a new smaller rack.<br><br><br>So a buddy bought an old sports racer =
and took it out for a shake down cruise. According to him, the steering in =
the car was "diabolical". He brought it around to the shop to see if anythi=
ng seemed amiss. <br>Once we removed the front bodywork everything looked p=
retty normal, and well attached. I slid a jack under it and started to lift=
 the front end...whoa!!! The toe in change had to be measured with a yardst=
ick!<br>We fooled around with the rack mounts, the tie rod height and angle=
 and got it down to 12" ruler issues!<br><br>No matter what we could do, it=
 seemed the bumpsteer was just beyond belief. It looks like the rack that i=
s in there is probably some kind of Triumph unit...spit or GT6 ...maybe eve=
n TR4/6/ It measures 18.5" overall for the housing with an approx 1" diamet=
er tube.&nbsp; At that length the tie rod articulation is half way across t=
he lower a-arms!<br><br>I'm guessing it needs a 13" - 15" outer tube to get=
 it within inches of bumpsteer to start.<br><br>SO, can youse guys check an=
d measure whatever racks you have in you cars...mg tr rootes...whatever and=
 let me know if you have anything approaching 14" tube size or so?<br><br>r=
ackin my brain here ...<br><br>Im gonna post this on the TR group as well<b=
r>Bill<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div>
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From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 20:32:05 -0400

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Looks like a one-of-a-kind homebrew special. Actually fairly well made with=
 the usual early Triumph drum brake uprights (the kind with the steering ar=
m thru the upright) in the front with homemade upper a-arms and TR Herald t=
ype lower a-arms. Don't know what the rack is from (hoping someone could me=
asure their rack and lemme know the length of the housing), but its waay to=
 long for this setup. Probably made in the early '60's.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Householder <[email-masked]>
To: malaboge <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2016 2:46
Subject: Re: [Fot] Mine's too big!

WHAT KIND OF OLD SPORTS RACER??????

On Jul 8, 2016, at 12:05 AM, [email-masked] wrote:

rackin my brain here ...

bus.rr.com

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ck;"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;co=
lor:black;"><br>Looks like a one-of-a-kind homebrew special. Actually fairl=
y well made with the usual early Triumph drum brake uprights (the kind with=
 the steering arm thru the upright) in the front with homemade upper a-arms=
 and TR Herald type lower a-arms. Don't know what the rack is from (hoping =
someone could measure their rack and lemme know the length of the housing),=
 but its waay to long for this setup. Probably made in the early '60's. <br=
><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Tom Householder &lt;trhouse@co=
lumbus.rr.com&gt;<br>To: malaboge &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sent: Sat, Ju=
l 9, 2016 2:46 <br>Subject: Re: [Fot] Mine's too big!<br><br></div>
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ewline"><blockquote><div style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:comic sans ms,=
sans-serif;color:black;">A good buddy of mine asked me to post this request=
, seems he has a need for a new smaller rack.<br><br><br>So a buddy bought =
an old sports racer and took it out for a shake down cruise. According to h=
im, the steering in the car was "diabolical". He brought it around to the s=
hop to see if anything seemed amiss. <br>Once we removed the front bodywork=
 everything looked pretty normal, and well attached. I slid a jack under it=
 and started to lift the front end...whoa!!! The toe in change had to be me=
asured with a yardstick!<br>We fooled around with the rack mounts, the tie =
rod height and angle and got it down to 12" ruler issues!<br><br>No matter =
what we could do, it seemed the bumpsteer was just beyond belief. It looks =
like the rack that is in there is probably some kind of Triumph unit...spit=
 or GT6 ...maybe even TR4/6/ It measures 18.5" overall for the housing with=
 an approx 1" diameter tube.&nbsp; At that length the tie rod articulation =
is half way across the lower a-arms!<br><br>I'm guessing it needs a 13" - 1=
5" outer tube to get it within inches of bumpsteer to start.<br><br>SO, can=
 youse guys check and measure whatever racks you have in you cars...mg tr r=
ootes...whatever and let me know if you have anything approaching 14" tube =
size or so?<br><br>rackin my brain here ...<br><br>Im gonna post this on th=
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