Subject: [Fot] Tr6 vs TR250 weight

From: Scott Janzen <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 15:00:08 -0400

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all the usual sources have Tr6s listed at 2491 lb and the TR250 at 2165 =
lb.  I'm thinking about a TR6 vintage racer but puzzled as to why there =
would be such a weight penalty.  Anybody racing one of these that can =
tell me what theirs weighs?

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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">all the usual sources have Tr6s listed at 2491 lb and the TR250 at 2165 lb. &nbsp;I'm thinking about a TR6 vintage racer but puzzled as to why there would be such a weight penalty. &nbsp;Anybody racing one of these that can tell me what theirs weighs?<div><br></div></body></html>
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From: "Bill Tobin" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 21:40:07 -0400

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Scott, I had mine weighed a few years ago and it was about 2150 pounds, =
which is fairly heavy.
I think SVRA says the  minimum weight for my car is around 1950 pounds, =
if memory serves me.
Car's overweight but so is the driver! If I do a few triathlons this =
summer and the Marine Corps Marathon in October, I should shed some =
weight off my chassis. Here's hoping!
Cheers, Bill
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  all the usual sources have Tr6s listed at 2491 lb and the TR250 at =
2165 lb.  I'm thinking about a TR6 vintage racer but puzzled as to why =
there would be such a weight penalty.  Anybody racing one of these that =
can tell me what theirs weighs?

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was about 2150 pounds, which is fairly heavy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I think SVRA says the&nbsp; minimum =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Car's overweight but so is the driver! =
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few triathlons this summer and the Marine Corps Marathon in October, I =
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shed some weight off my chassis. Here's hoping!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Cheers, Bill</FONT></DIV>
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From: Charly <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 20:54:25 -0500

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In the PCS link below, Page 265 starts the TR250 and several pages later th=
e TR6.
Mine ways in about 1950 the last time I weighed it.
Charly Mitchel=20
TR6 #44

http://sovrenracing.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SCCA_PCS_69.pdf

On Mon 16/05/16 12:00 PM , Scott Janzen [email-masked] sent:
> all the usual sources have Tr6s listed at 2491 lb and the TR250 at
> 2165 lb.  I'm thinking about a TR6 vintage racer but puzzled as to why
> there would be such a weight penalty.  Anybody racing one of these
> that can tell me what theirs weighs?
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From: Charly <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 00:21:09 -0500

On Mon 16/05/16  6:54 PM , Charly [email-masked] sent:
> In the PCS link below, Page 265 starts the TR250 and several pages
> later the TR6.
> Charly Mitchel 
> On Mon 16/05/16 12:00 PM , Scott Janzen  sent:

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From: Robert Lang <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 11:10:12 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi,A lot of the weight requirements are based on what class the car runs in=
 (and which GCR in the US). I'll bet the heavier TR6 is based on the C Prod=
uction setup with Lucas PI or Webers where the TR250 may have been for D Pr=
od and running two 1.75" side drafts.As another data point, I got my car do=
wn to 1950 lb for SCCA Solo F Prepared. I had to start getting "dicey" as f=
ar as making car reliable (like the 4 lb battery and stuff like that). To b=
e honest, I'd go reliable before I'd try to get as light as possible.All th=
at said, the weights that Scott quotes are somewhat close to the curb weigh=
t of a factory car, probably sans bumpers - as the Vintage GCR says, Produc=
tion cars have to appear as they would in the showroom, or words to that ef=
fect. I can also tell you from experience that the interior bits and wire h=
arness weight about 350 lb, so the math is quite easy". Oh, and a stock TR6=
 bonnet weighs about 75 lb. ;-) Also - glass is very heavy.C ya,Bob Lang

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rote:
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On Mon 16/05/16=C2=A0 6:54 PM , Charly [email-masked] sent:
> On Mon 16/05/16 12:00 PM , Scott Janzen=C2=A0 sent:
> > 2165 lb.=C2=A0 I'm thinking about a TR6 vintage racer but puzzled as to
> why
> > there would be such a weight penalty.=C2=A0 Anybody racing one of these

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>Hi,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_3167">A lot of the wei=
ght requirements are based on what class the car runs in (and which GCR in =
the US). I'll bet the heavier TR6 is based on the C Production setup with L=
ucas PI or Webers where the TR250 may have been for D Prod and running two =
1.75" side drafts.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849=
402_3285">As another data point, I got my car down to 1950 lb for SCCA Solo=
 F Prepared. I had to start getting "dicey" as far as making car reliable (=
like the 4 lb battery and stuff like that). To be honest, I'd go reliable b=
efore I'd try to get as light as possible.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1463482849402_3527" dir=3D"ltr">All that said, the weights that Scott quo=
tes are somewhat close to the curb weight of a factory car, probably sans b=
umpers - as the Vintage GCR says, Production cars have to appear as they wo=
uld in the showroom, or words to that effect. I can also tell you from expe=
rience that the interior bits and wire harness weight about 350 lb, so the =
math is quite easy". Oh, and a stock TR6 bonnet weighs about 75 lb. ;-) Als=
o - glass is very heavy.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">C ya,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_3863" dir=3D"ltr">Bob Lang<br></div><div id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_3714" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_=
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elveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; =
font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Tue=
sday, May 17, 2016 6:20 AM, Charly &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote=
:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><br>On Mon =
16/05/16&nbsp; 6:54 PM , Charly <a ymailto=3D"mailto:charly@mitchelplumbing=
.com" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a> sent:<br>&gt; In the PCS link below, Page 265 starts the TR250 and sev=
eral pages<br>&gt; later the TR6.<br>&gt; Mine ways in about 1950 the last =
time I weighed it.<br>&gt; Charly Mitchel <br>&gt; TR6 #44<br>&gt; <a href=
=3D"http://sovrenracing.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SCCA_PCS_69.pdf" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://sovrenracing.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SCCA_PCS_=
69.pdf</a><br>&gt; On Mon 16/05/16 12:00 PM , Scott Janzen&nbsp; sent:<br>&=
gt; &gt; all the usual sources have Tr6s listed at 2491 lb and the TR250 at=
<br>&gt; &gt; 2165 lb.&nbsp; I'm thinking about a TR6 vintage racer but puz=
zled as to<br>&gt; why<br>&gt; &gt; there would be such a weight penalty.&n=
bsp; Anybody racing one of these<br>&gt; &gt; that can tell me what theirs =
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From: Charly <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 23:27:16 -0500

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We don't weigh with drivers, My hood=20
doesn't weigh 75lbs either.
Charly Mitchell
TR6 #44

On Tue 17/05/16 11:09 AM , Ed Diehl=20
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> Is that with driver or not?  SCCA=20
weighs w/ driver. Ed Diehl=20
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