Subject: [Fot] SVRA & Tires

From: Jeff Snook <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 11:48:38 -0400

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Hey all, after reading the recent tire posts I went to the SVRA website, =
and sure enough, a revised tire regs, dated 4/16 limits the tires.  =
Since I just stopped using the bias ply Hoosier Vintage TDs last year =
(after 19 years!), I=E2=80=99m hardly one to comment on the more modern =
radials.  I went with the Speedster 185/65-15 for mainly fit and =
appearance reasons.  Got to say I love them, but it takes a different =
driving style that I am still getting used to after 19 years of tossing =
the old TR3 around on bias ply tires.  I am concerned however about the =
extra stresses and strains these stickier radials are putting on the =
chassis.  What is the next thing that is going to break?!  How about we =
all agree to race on bias ply Dunlops?  That way we would all be on the =
same playing field, and those Dunlops last forever!=20

At SVRA Sebring this past March, I had to have my HANS re-strapped, and =
re-certified for $65.  Vendor right next to tech!  My SFI rated belts =
were fairly new so I escaped buying new ones.  I just purchased some new =
belts for my Lotus and went with the FIA that had the 5 year expiration. =
 Cost another $100 from Simpson, but worth it if the SFIs are only good =
for 2 years!  Also checked the fire system bottle in the Lotus.  It was =
20+ years old and filled with Halon.  Pegasus had an interchangeable =
bottle with the new stuff, so I ordered one.  Surprised when it arrived =
with only a 2 year certification, needs to be re-certified every 2 =
years!!

Ya know, Vintage Racing just isn=E2=80=99t what it was a number of years =
ago.  Thank goodness for the =E2=80=9Cclubs=E2=80=9D VRG, VSCDA, VDCA, =
etc.  But, it is still fun and I enjoy the "competition and =
camaraderie!"

Jeff Snook
http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
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class=3D"">Hey all, after reading the recent tire posts I went to the =
SVRA website, and sure enough, a revised tire regs, dated 4/16 limits =
the tires. &nbsp;Since I just stopped using the bias ply Hoosier Vintage =
TDs last year (after 19 years!), I=E2=80=99m hardly one to comment on =
the more modern radials. &nbsp;I went with the Speedster 185/65-15 for =
mainly fit and appearance reasons. &nbsp;Got to say I love them, but it =
takes a different driving style that I am still getting used to after 19 =
years of tossing the old TR3 around on bias ply tires. &nbsp;I am =
concerned however about the extra stresses and strains these stickier =
radials are putting on the chassis. &nbsp;What is the next thing that is =
going to break?! &nbsp;How about we all agree to race on bias ply =
Dunlops? &nbsp;That way we would all be on the same playing field, and =
those Dunlops last forever!&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">At SVRA Sebring this past March, I had to have my HANS =
re-strapped, and re-certified for $65. &nbsp;Vendor right next to tech! =
&nbsp;My SFI rated belts were fairly new so I escaped buying new ones. =
&nbsp;I just purchased some new belts for my Lotus and went with the FIA =
that had the 5 year expiration. &nbsp;Cost another $100 from Simpson, =
but worth it if the SFIs are only good for 2 years! &nbsp;Also checked =
the fire system bottle in the Lotus. &nbsp;It was 20+ years old and =
filled with Halon. &nbsp;Pegasus had an interchangeable bottle with the =
new stuff, so I ordered one. &nbsp;Surprised when it arrived with only a =
2 year certification, needs to be re-certified every 2 years!!</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Ya know, Vintage Racing =
just isn=E2=80=99t what it was a number of years ago. &nbsp;Thank =
goodness for the =E2=80=9Cclubs=E2=80=9D VRG, VSCDA, VDCA, etc. =
&nbsp;But, it is still fun and I enjoy the "competition and =
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Amici...

Bob Wismer and I used Dunlops on our race cars for years and years.  We lik=
ed the way they looked (very 'proper'), and we were cheap.  Like you said, =
"...they never wear out."  We used to get nearly ten events out of a set.  =
They got hard, but we used to use a 'softener'.  That turned out to be more=
 trouble than it was worth.  Then towards the end of our racing careers, Du=
nlops became hard to get.  They never seemed to be available when we needed=
 them, so we started using other tires.  Those other tires never looked "pr=
oper".  But we were big fans of Dunlop.=20

In the early 1980s you could get Dunlop "GUM BALLS".  They were very,very s=
ticky but wore out quickly.  Well funded racers practiced on standard Dunlo=
ps, and then ran the Gum Balls for the feature race.  Then I heard that a c=
ouple of museum pieces over in England had been brought out for competition=
, they ran on the Gum Balls and had suspension failures, with catastrophic =
results. It was decided that the Gum Balls were way too sticky for 'vintage=
' race cars.  So Dunlop stopped making them.   =20

Bill Dentinger

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From: Bill Babcock <[email-masked]>
To: Jeff Snook <[email-masked]>
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Sent: Sun, May 29, 2016 12:24 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] SVRA & Tires

Speedsters aren=E2=80=99t really radials. At least they didn=E2=80=99t used=
 to be. Kind of semi-radials. I=E2=80=99m not a big fan of Dunlops. Lots of=
 opportunities for body damage. People who are really used to them and have=
 their car set up for them say they give lots of warning. I=E2=80=99ve neve=
r fowund that to be true. One moment racer, next moment passenger. Not chea=
p either, and they get hard fast. Of course they never wear out=E2=80=94min=
e are as hard as rollerblade wheels.=20

e.com

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<div>Bob Wismer and I used Dunlops on our race cars for years and years.&nb=
sp; We liked the way they looked (very 'proper'), and we were cheap.&nbsp; =
Like you said, "...they never wear out."&nbsp; We used to get nearly ten ev=
ents out of a set.&nbsp; They got hard, but we used to use a 'softener'.&nb=
sp; That turned out to be&nbsp;more trouble than it was worth.&nbsp; Then t=
owards the&nbsp;end of our racing careers, Dunlops became hard to get.&nbsp=
; They never seemed to be available when we needed them, so we started usin=
g other tires.&nbsp; Those other tires never looked "proper".&nbsp; But we =
were big fans of Dunlop. </div>

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<div>In the early 1980s you could get Dunlop "GUM BALLS".&nbsp; They were v=
ery,very sticky but wore out quickly.&nbsp; Well funded racers practiced on=
 standard Dunlops, and then ran the Gum Balls for the feature race.&nbsp; T=
hen I heard that&nbsp;a couple of museum pieces over in England had been br=
ought out for competition,&nbsp;they ran&nbsp;on the Gum Balls and&nbsp;had=
 suspension failures, with catastrophic&nbsp;results.&nbsp;It was decided t=
hat the Gum Balls&nbsp;were way too sticky for 'vintage' race cars.&nbsp; S=
o Dunlop stopped making them.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>

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radials. I=E2=80=99m not a big fan of Dunlops. Lots of opportunities for bo=
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rue. One moment racer, next moment passenger. Not cheap either, and they ge=
t hard fast. Of course they never wear out=E2=80=94mine are as hard as roll=
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