Subject: [Fot] Driveshaft angles

From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 07:42:44 -0700

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=0A=0A=09Thanks again for all of the advice. =0A=0A=09Since the body is=
 off of the car it was fairly easy to make changes=0Aand record the diff=
erences. I raised the back of the transmission 1=0A3/16 inches and the d=
ownward angle went from 6 1/2 degrees to 3 1/2=0Adegrees. I removed the=
 aluminum 1 1/4 inch spacers from the front diff=0Amount and the angle w=
ent from 5 1/2 downward to 1/2 degree up, giving=0Aus a total of 3 degre=
e difference. =0A=0A=09The guy at the driveline shop told me that 3 degr=
ees was fine, that I=0Adidn't want perfect alignment because it would we=
ar the needles in the=0Au-joint into the cap without some motion. =0A=0A=
=09Next we will lower the front of the engine as much as possible so we=
=0Awill able to lower the back of the transmission closer to the stock=
=0Aheight while keeping the new angles. =0A=0A=09And then start all of t=
he mods required because of the height=0Achanges.=0A=0A=09Shooting for E=
lkhart Lake in May.=0A=0A=09Sincerely,=0A=0A=09Dave and Alex

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<html><body><p>Thanks again for all of the advice.&nbsp;</p><p>Since the=
 body is off of the car it was fairly easy to make changes and record th=
e differences.&nbsp; I raised the back of the transmission 1 3/16 inches=
 and the downward angle went from 6 1/2 degrees to 3 1/2 degrees.&nbsp;=
 I removed the aluminum 1 1/4 inch spacers from the front diff mount and=
 the angle went from 5 1/2 downward to 1/2 degree up, giving us a total=
 of 3 degree difference.&nbsp;</p><p>The guy at the driveline shop told=
 me that 3 degrees was fine, that I didn't want perfect alignment becaus=
e it would wear the needles in the u-joint into the cap without some mot=
ion. </p><p>Next we will lower the front of the engine as much as possib=
le&nbsp;so&nbsp;we will able to lower the back of the transmission close=
r to the stock height while keeping the new angles.&nbsp;</p><p>And then=
 start all of the mods required because of the height changes.</p><p>Sho=
oting for Elkhart Lake&nbsp;in May.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Dave and Alex=
</p></body></html>

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From: "Peter Vucinic" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 09:41:51 +1100

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Dave and Alex,

=20

Your guy at the drive line shop is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! Keep him. He =
knows what he is talking about. It=E2=80=99s always refreshing to come =
across a guy that knows his stuff! You are lucky to have him as a =
resource!

=20

I have been doing laser alignment on machine shafts for 30 years. =
Everything from Ship Diesels to Turbines and 3 Degrees will be fine and =
you won=E2=80=99t have any issues at that angle. Uni joints require the =
movement to induce proper lubrication of the rollers/cup etc. The =
movement =E2=80=98pumps=E2=80=99 the grease around and stops a lot of =
other bad things happening when the rollers are stationery.

=20

Always remember, that you are measuring these angle etc. etc. while the =
car is stationery and no dynamic movement is happening through mounts =
and/or the chassis. So, just aim to get it close. 3 Degrees or Better.

=20

Also, another tip I can pass on is the Uni Joints themselves. They are =
NOT all equal. Try and get the Uni Joints that has a multitudes of SMALL =
FINE rollers in the cups. Rather than a few coarse rollers. This is the =
BEST upgrade you can do to get smooth oscillation and power transmission =
through the joint.

=20

Good investigation by yourself!

=20

=20

"You can Make a Small Fortune From Motor Racing. As long as You Started =
With A Lage Fortune!"

Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfire MkII

=20

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From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
[email-masked]
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 1:43 AM
To: [email-masked]'
Subject: [Fot] Driveshaft angles

=20

Thanks again for all of the advice.=20

Since the body is off of the car it was fairly easy to make changes and =
record the differences.  I raised the back of the transmission 1 3/16 =
inches and the downward angle went from 6 1/2 degrees to 3 1/2 degrees.  =
I removed the aluminum 1 1/4 inch spacers from the front diff mount and =
the angle went from 5 1/2 downward to 1/2 degree up, giving us a total =
of 3 degree difference.=20

The guy at the driveline shop told me that 3 degrees was fine, that I =
didn't want perfect alignment because it would wear the needles in the =
u-joint into the cap without some motion.=20

Next we will lower the front of the engine as much as possible so we =
will able to lower the back of the transmission closer to the stock =
height while keeping the new angles.=20

And then start all of the mods required because of the height changes.

Shooting for Elkhart Lake in May.

Sincerely,

Dave and Alex

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D'>Your guy at the drive line shop is <b><u>ABSOLUTELY CORRECT</u></b>! =
Keep him. He knows what he is talking about. It=E2=80=99s always =
refreshing to come across a guy that knows his stuff! You are lucky to =
have him as a resource!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I have been doing laser alignment on machine shafts for 30 years. =
Everything from Ship Diesels to Turbines and 3 Degrees will be fine and =
you won=E2=80=99t have any issues at that angle. Uni joints require the =
movement to induce proper lubrication of the rollers/cup etc. The =
movement =E2=80=98pumps=E2=80=99 the grease around and stops a lot of =
other bad things happening when the rollers are =
stationery.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Always remember, that you are measuring these angle etc. etc. while =
the car is stationery and no dynamic movement is happening through =
mounts and/or the chassis. So, just aim to get it close. 3 Degrees or =
Better.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Also, another tip I can pass on is the Uni Joints themselves. They =
are NOT all equal. Try and get the Uni Joints that has a multitudes of =
SMALL FINE rollers in the cups. Rather than a few coarse rollers. This =
is the BEST upgrade you can do to get smooth oscillation and power =
transmission through the joint.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Good investigation by yourself!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7030A=
0'>&quot;You can Make a Small Fortune From Motor Racing. As long as You =
Started With A Lage Fortune!&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfire MkII<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>[email-masked]<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 6 March 2016 1:43 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] =
Driveshaft angles<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>Thanks again for all of the =
advice.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>Since the =
body is off of the car it was fairly easy to make changes and record the =
differences.&nbsp; I raised the back of the transmission 1 3/16 inches =
and the downward angle went from 6 1/2 degrees to 3 1/2 degrees.&nbsp; I =
removed the aluminum 1 1/4 inch spacers from the front diff mount and =
the angle went from 5 1/2 downward to 1/2 degree up, giving us a total =
of 3 degree difference.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>The guy at the driveline shop told me that =
3 degrees was fine, that I didn't want perfect alignment because it =
would wear the needles in the u-joint into the cap without some motion. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>Next we will lower the =
front of the engine as much as possible&nbsp;so&nbsp;we will able to =
lower the back of the transmission closer to the stock height while =
keeping the new angles.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>And then start all of the mods required =
because of the height changes.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>Shooting for Elkhart Lake&nbsp;in =
May.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>Dave and =
Alex<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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