Subject: Re: [Fot] article

From: Bill <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:22:43 -1000

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That rule of thumb doesn=E2=80=99t make a great deal of sense. There are =
two issues with oil that is changed frequently, as it usually is with =
racing engines. Low temperature means any water contamination won=E2=80=99=
t necessarily be driven off. If you exceed 212 degrees F with a vented =
wet sump engine most of the water will evaporate and vent. We have wet =
sleeve motors and iffy head gaskets=E2=80=94we get water in our oil. =
Mayonnaise doesn=E2=80=99t lube all that well.=20

If oil temperature exceeds 290 it starts to oxidize faster. Wet sump =
motors with moderate control over the crankcase oxidize oil pretty =
quickly. Frequent changes manage that, so who cares. Also above 290 we =
start seeing viscosity, and more importantly, film thickness decrease. =
Plain bearing motors and cams with plain followers like a thicker film.=20=

So more than 212 and less than 290 seems wise, and probably less than =
270 just to be conservative. But definitely more than 212

> On Feb 9, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Bill Tobin <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
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> Hi Gang, there is a nice writeup about John Morton in the March =
edition of Sportscar, the SCCA magazine. He was at the Jefferson 500 =
last spring and seemed like a cool guy. I bought his book, complete with =
autograph.
> =20
> Also regarding oil coolers; a friend who's been racing since '66 told =
me as a rule of thumb the oil temp should be about 30 degrees above =
water temp.
> Also you can make up braided hoses rather easily yourself. Pegasus has =
a good description on how to do it in their catalog, along with a good =
selection of hoses and fittings.
> NFI.=20
> Cheers, Bill
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">That rule of thumb doesn=E2=80=99t make a great deal of =
sense. There are two issues with oil that is changed frequently, as it =
usually is with racing engines. Low temperature means any water =
contamination won=E2=80=99t necessarily be driven off. If you exceed 212 =
degrees F with a vented wet sump engine most of the water will evaporate =
and vent. We have wet sleeve motors and iffy head gaskets=E2=80=94we get =
water in our oil. Mayonnaise doesn=E2=80=99t lube all that =
well.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If oil =
temperature exceeds 290 it starts to oxidize faster. Wet sump motors =
with moderate control over the crankcase oxidize oil pretty quickly. =
Frequent changes manage that, so who cares. Also above 290 we start =
seeing viscosity, and more importantly, film thickness decrease. Plain =
bearing motors and cams with plain followers like a thicker =
film.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">So =
more than 212 and less than 290 seems wise, and probably less than 270 =
just to be conservative. But definitely more than 212</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Feb 9, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Bill Tobin &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
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class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" class=3D"">Hi Gang, there is =
a nice writeup about John Morton in the&nbsp;March edition of Sportscar, =
the SCCA magazine. He was at the Jefferson 500 last spring and seemed =
like a cool guy. I bought&nbsp;his book,&nbsp;complete with =
autograph.</font></div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
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rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial" class=3D"">Also regarding oil coolers; a friend who's =
been racing since '66 told me as a rule of thumb the oil temp should be =
about 30 degrees above water temp.</font></div><div style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial" class=3D"">Also you can make up braided hoses rather =
easily yourself. Pegasus has a good description on how to do it in their =
catalog, along with a good selection of hoses and =
fittings.</font></div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
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A couple things: I don't have a wet sleeve engine or head gaskets that =
leak. No mayonnaise.
I run about 195 for water and about 230 for oil.
On a cool day, a sump heater or good warmup is essential. Same for tires =
and brakes.
I just repaired a couple tractors with milkshakes in the trans and diff; =
not good. And Joe, one was my Oliver 1650, great tractor!
Cheers, Bill
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: Re: [Fot] article

  That rule of thumb doesn=E2=80=99t make a great deal of sense. There =
are two issues with oil that is changed frequently, as it usually is =
with racing engines. Low temperature means any water contamination =
won=E2=80=99t necessarily be driven off. If you exceed 212 degrees F =
with a vented wet sump engine most of the water will evaporate and vent. =
We have wet sleeve motors and iffy head gaskets=E2=80=94we get water in =
our oil. Mayonnaise doesn=E2=80=99t lube all that well.=20

Plain bearing motors and cams with plain followers like a thicker film.=20

    Also regarding oil coolers; a friend who's been racing since '66 =
told me as a rule of thumb the oil temp should be about 30 degrees above =
water temp.
    Also you can make up braided hoses rather easily yourself. Pegasus =
has a good description on how to do it in their catalog, along with a =
good selection of hoses and fittings.
    NFI.=20
    Cheers, Bill
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>A couple things: I don't have a wet =
sleeve engine=20
or head gaskets that leak. No mayonnaise.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I run about 195 for water and about 230 =
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oil.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>On a cool day, a sump heater or good =
warmup is=20
essential. Same for tires and brakes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I just repaired a couple tractors with =
milkshakes=20
in the trans and diff; not good. And Joe, one was my Oliver 1650, great=20
tractor!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Cheers, Bill</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>That rule of thumb doesn=E2=80=99t make a great deal of =
sense. There=20
  are two issues with oil that is changed frequently, as it usually is =
with=20
  racing engines. Low temperature means any water contamination =
won=E2=80=99t=20
  necessarily be driven off. If you exceed 212 degrees F with a vented =
wet sump=20
  engine most of the water will evaporate and vent. We have wet sleeve =
motors=20
  and iffy head gaskets=E2=80=94we get water in our oil. Mayonnaise =
doesn=E2=80=99t lube all=20
  that well.&nbsp;
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  <DIV>If oil temperature exceeds 290 it starts to oxidize faster. Wet =
sump=20
  motors with moderate control over the crankcase oxidize oil pretty =
quickly.=20
  Frequent changes manage that, so who cares. Also above 290 we start =
seeing=20
  viscosity, and more importantly, film thickness decrease. Plain =
bearing motors=20
  and cams with plain followers like a thicker film.&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>So more than 212 and less than 290 seems wise, and probably less =
than 270=20
  just to be conservative. But definitely more than 212</DIV>
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I might have seen that tractor come off of the line at Charles City......bef=
ore I went to John Deere.

Joe Alexander
645 1st Street
Jesup, IA 50648
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711

> On Feb 9, 2016, at 8:01 PM, Bill Tobin <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> A couple things: I don't have a wet sleeve engine or head gaskets that lea=
k. No mayonnaise.
> On a cool day, a sump heater or good warmup is essential. Same for tires a=
nd brakes.
> I just repaired a couple tractors with milkshakes in the trans and diff; n=
ot good. And Joe, one was my Oliver 1650, great tractor!
> Cheers, Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill
> To: Bill Tobin
> Cc: [email-masked]
> That rule of thumb doesn=E2=80=99t make a great deal of sense. There are t=
wo issues with oil that is changed frequently, as it usually is with racing e=
ngines. Low temperature means any water contamination won=E2=80=99t necessar=
ily be driven off. If you exceed 212 degrees F with a vented wet sump engine=
 most of the water will evaporate and vent. We have wet sleeve motors and if=
fy head gaskets=E2=80=94we get water in our oil. Mayonnaise doesn=E2=80=99t l=
ube all that well.=20
>=20
> If oil temperature exceeds 290 it starts to oxidize faster. Wet sump motor=
s with moderate control over the crankcase oxidize oil pretty quickly. Frequ=
ent changes manage that, so who cares. Also above 290 we start seeing viscos=
ity, and more importantly, film thickness decrease. Plain bearing motors and=
 cams with plain followers like a thicker film.=20
>=20
> So more than 212 and less than 290 seems wise, and probably less than 270 j=
ust to be conservative. But definitely more than 212
>=20
>=20
>> On Feb 9, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Bill Tobin <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>> Hi Gang, there is a nice writeup about John Morton in the March edition o=
f Sportscar, the SCCA magazine. He was at the Jefferson 500 last spring and s=
eemed like a cool guy. I bought his book, complete with autograph.
>> =20
>> Also regarding oil coolers; a friend who's been racing since '66 told me a=
s a rule of thumb the oil temp should be about 30 degrees above water temp.
>> Also you can make up braided hoses rather easily yourself. Pegasus has a g=
ood description on how to do it in their catalog, along with a good selectio=
n of hoses and fittings.
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponost=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I might have seen that tractor come of=
f of the line at Charles City......before I went to John Deere.<br><br>Joe A=
lexander<div>645 1st Street</div><div>Jesup, IA 50648</div><div><a href=3D"h=
ttp://The-vintage-racer.com">The-vintage-racer.com</a></div><div><a href=3D"=
http://Gasketinnovations.com">Gasketinnovations.com</a></div><div>Cell: &nbs=
p;319.464.4711</div></div><div><br>On Feb 9, 2016, at 8:01 PM, Bill Tobin &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>

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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">A couple things: I don't have a wet sle=
eve engine=20
or head gaskets that leak. No mayonnaise.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I run about 195 for water and about 230=
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oil.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">On a cool day, a sump heater or good wa=
rmup is=20
essential. Same for tires and brakes.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I just repaired a couple tractors with m=
ilkshakes=20
in the trans and diff; not good. And Joe, one was my Oliver 1650, great=20
tractor!</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Cheers, Bill</font></div>
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> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"william.tobin31@ver=
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  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] article</div>
  <div><br></div>That rule of thumb doesn=E2=80=99t make a great deal of sen=
se. There=20
  are two issues with oil that is changed frequently, as it usually is with=20=

  racing engines. Low temperature means any water contamination won=E2=80=99=
t=20
  necessarily be driven off. If you exceed 212 degrees F with a vented wet s=
ump=20
  engine most of the water will evaporate and vent. We have wet sleeve motor=
s=20
  and iffy head gaskets=E2=80=94we get water in our oil. Mayonnaise doesn=E2=
=80=99t lube all=20
  that well.&nbsp;
  <div><br></div>
  <div>If oil temperature exceeds 290 it starts to oxidize faster. Wet sump=20=

  motors with moderate control over the crankcase oxidize oil pretty quickly=
.=20
  Frequent changes manage that, so who cares. Also above 290 we start seeing=
=20
  viscosity, and more importantly, film thickness decrease. Plain bearing mo=
tors=20
  and cams with plain followers like a thicker film.&nbsp;</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>So more than 212 and less than 290 seems wise, and probably less than=
 270=20
  just to be conservative. But definitely more than 212</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><br>
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EIGHT: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><font size=
=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Hi Gang, there is a nice writeup about John Morton in=20=

    the&nbsp;March edition of Sportscar, the SCCA magazine. He was at the=20=

    Jefferson 500 last spring and seemed like a cool guy. I bought&nbsp;his=20=

    book,&nbsp;complete with autograph.</font></div>
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vetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-W=
EIGHT: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">&nbsp;</di=
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EIGHT: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><font size=
=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Also regarding oil coolers; a friend who's been racing=
=20
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    <div style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); =
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Hel=
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EIGHT: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><font size=
=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Also you can make up braided hoses rather easily yours=
elf.=20
    Pegasus has a good description on how to do it in their catalog, along w=
ith=20
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