Subject: Re: [Fot] overdrive dog ring gearbox ?

From: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:36:48 -0600

Bastuck makes dog box internals with an OD mainshaft.

Tony Drews

At 12:17 AM 2/20/2016, Jim Gray wrote:
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>Can anyone tell me if it's possible to add a Jtype OD to a TR4/6 dog box ?
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From: Joe Alexander <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:13:38 -0600

List,

If you have an interest in a Bastuck dog box, please contact me. 

Bastuck just did a short run of their very good gear sets.

We have two kits coming. One will be available for sale below retail price.

I'd have to pursue, but there might be a potential for a group purchase.

All things considered we decided that a Bastuck dog box was preferable over a Triumph close ratio conversion or converting to a non-Triumph tranny with less desirable ratios.

Witness Chris Marx' YouTube submittals. 

Regards,

Joe Alexander
645 1st Street
Jesup, IA 50648
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711

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From: Keith Files <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:04:06 +0000

Dear all,

I have 2 dog boxes for my Sebring TR4 with the gear sets supplied by Bastuck; I can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear sets that I run in my 2 dog boxes that I have for my TR6.

Try, you will not be disappointed.

Keith

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From: "Jim Gray" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:13:17 -0700

I should probably clarify a bit. I just purchased a dog box, it's on the way
to Colorado. I still use a stock crank so my rev limit is 6 - 6200 RPM.
In Colorado I use the OD on the longer straights, my final drive is 4:10 .
If I go back to a 4 speed I'll run out of rev's and If I go to 3:70's I
expect
to lose some time getting off the corners. I may just have to wait until I
get the Moldex crank sometime in the future so I can increase my
rev limit. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Keith Files
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 9:04 AM
To: Joe Alexander <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available

Dear all,

I have 2 dog boxes for my Sebring TR4 with the gear sets supplied by
Bastuck; I can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear sets
that I run in my 2 dog boxes that I have for my TR6.

Keith

Sent from my iPad

> All things considered we decided that a Bastuck dog box was preferable
over a Triumph close ratio conversion or converting to a non-Triumph tranny
with less desirable ratios.
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From: "Jim Gray" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:26:17 -0700

John, I'm not sure how the ratio's compare 1st - 3rd but 4th in both gear
seat will be 1-1. I'm assuming you too run a stock crank.
I've kept my rev limit to 6K because of the second harmonic I've heard about
which begins just over 6K.
I've had it to 7K, once and it was accidentally. I was in such dense traffic
I couldn't hear my own car and passing two at once.
Do you run a special crank damper?
Jim g

-----Original Message-----
From: John Hasty [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 9:21 AM
To: 'Jim Gray' <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available

Jim:  We use a TR close ratio gear set, A OD & a 4.5 rear and reach 6500 at
end of long straights like VIR Rd.Atl etc.  I wonder what the Bastuck
rations are?

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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:13 AM
To: 'Keith Files'; 'Joe Alexander'
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available

I should probably clarify a bit. I just purchased a dog box, it's on the way
to Colorado. I still use a stock crank so my rev limit is 6 - 6200 RPM.
In Colorado I use the OD on the longer straights, my final drive is 4:10 .
If I go back to a 4 speed I'll run out of rev's and If I go to 3:70's I
expect to lose some time getting off the corners. I may just have to wait
until I get the Moldex crank sometime in the future so I can increase my rev
limit.

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From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Keith Files
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 9:04 AM
To: Joe Alexander <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available

Dear all,

Keith

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> On 20 Feb 2016, at 15:13, Joe Alexander 
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>>> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to add a Jtype OD to a TR4/6 dog 
>>> box
?

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From: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:37:32 -0600

I run a Quaife dog box (was unaware of the Bastuck option at that 
time), 3.8 rear end ratio (Ford 8" - pre-Southwick rear axle 
conversion).  I used to run 4.1 with an OD.  I haven't lost any speed 
out of the turns.  There are a couple of tracks where I legitimately 
use first gear (which is much taller than stock).  It's a joy to shift.

Tony Drews

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From: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:39:57 -0600

Forgot to mention - I normally shift at 6000 RPM, but see about 6300 
at the end of the straights at Road America.  3.7 would be about a 
perfect ratio.

Tony

At 01:37 PM 2/20/2016, Tony Drews wrote:
>conversion).  I used to run 4.1 with an OD.  I haven't lost any 
>speed out of the turns.  There are a couple of tracks where I 
>legitimately use first gear (which is much taller than stock).  It's 
>a joy to shift.
>
>Tony Drews
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From: Bill <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 10:18:51 -1000

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Got bumped for too many recipients.=20

I hit just under 7K at the end of the RA straight with my 3.45 rear end =
drafting Sam Halkias (I think). Poor old Peyote almost shook to pieces. =
Scared the crap out of me.=20
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> I=E2=80=99ve used 3.7 and higher (3.45) with good effect using a =
Quaife dog box with a southwick-converted stock rear end. With close =
ratios you can afford to be taller since it turns your effectively three =
speed box into four once 1st gear becomes useful for more than getting =
out of the pits. You just need to get used to using first in the tight =
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>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Tony Drews <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>> I run a Quaife dog box (was unaware of the Bastuck option at that =
time), 3.8 rear end ratio (Ford 8" - pre-Southwick rear axle =
conversion).  I used to run 4.1 with an OD.  I haven't lost any speed =
out of the turns.  There are a couple of tracks where I legitimately use =
first gear (which is much taller than stock).  It's a joy to shift.
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>>> I should probably clarify a bit. I just purchased a dog box, it's on =
the way
>>> to Colorado. I still use a stock crank so my rev limit is 6 - 6200 =
RPM.
>>> In Colorado I use the OD on the longer straights, my final drive is =
4:10 .
>>> If I go back to a 4 speed I'll run out of rev's and If I go to =
3:70's I
>>> expect
>>> to lose some time getting off the corners. I may just have to wait =
until I
>>>=20
>>> From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Keith =
Files
>>>=20
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>>> Bastuck; I can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear =
sets
>>>=20
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>>>> All things considered we decided that a Bastuck dog box was =
preferable
>>> over a Triumph close ratio conversion or converting to a non-Triumph =
tranny
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Got bumped for too many recipients.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I hit just under 7K at the end of the =
RA straight with my 3.45 rear end drafting Sam Halkias (I think). Poor =
old Peyote almost shook to pieces. Scared the crap out of =
me.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Bill<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Begin =
forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div =
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color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Bill &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
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color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Re: [Fot] Bastuck =
Dog Box Available</b><br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">February 20, 2016 at 9:50:55 AM HST<br =
class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">FOT Triumph &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Jim Gray &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, Keith Files &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, Joe Alexander &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, Tony Drews &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve used 3.7 and =
higher (3.45) with good effect using a Quaife dog box with a =
southwick-converted stock rear end. With close ratios you can afford to =
be taller since it turns your effectively three speed box into four once =
1st gear becomes useful for more than getting out of the pits. You just =
need to get used to using first in the tight stuff. <br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Feb =
20, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Tony Drews &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I run a Quaife dog box (was unaware of the Bastuck option at =
that time), 3.8 rear end ratio (Ford 8" - pre-Southwick rear axle =
conversion). &nbsp;I used to run 4.1 with an OD. &nbsp;I haven't lost =
any speed out of the turns. &nbsp;There are a couple of tracks where I =
legitimately use first gear (which is much taller than stock). =
&nbsp;It's a joy to shift.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Tony Drews<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">At 10:13 AM 2/20/2016, Jim Gray wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">I should probably =
clarify a bit. I just purchased a dog box, it's on the way<br =
class=3D"">to Colorado. I still use a stock crank so my rev limit is 6 - =
6200 RPM.<br class=3D"">In Colorado I use the OD on the longer =
straights, my final drive is 4:10 .<br class=3D"">If I go back to a 4 =
speed I'll run out of rev's and If I go to 3:70's I<br =
class=3D"">expect<br class=3D"">to lose some time getting off the =
corners. I may just have to wait until I<br class=3D"">get the Moldex =
crank sometime in the future so I can increase my<br class=3D"">rev =
limit.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br =
class=3D"">From: Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Keith =
Files<br class=3D"">Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 9:04 AM<br =
class=3D"">To: Joe Alexander &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Dear all,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have 2 dog boxes for =
my Sebring TR4 with the gear sets supplied by<br class=3D"">Bastuck; I =
can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear sets<br =
class=3D"">that I run in my 2 dog boxes that I have for my TR6.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Try, you will not be disappointed.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Keith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from =
my iPad<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">On 20 Feb 2016, at 15:13, Joe Alexander &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""></blockquote>wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">List,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If you have =
an interest in a Bastuck dog box, please contact me.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Bastuck just did a short run of their very good gear sets.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">We have two kits coming. One will be available =
for sale below retail<br class=3D""></blockquote>price.<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br class=3D"">I'd have =
to pursue, but there might be a potential for a group purchase.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">All things considered we decided that a =
Bastuck dog box was preferable<br class=3D""></blockquote>over a Triumph =
close ratio conversion or converting to a non-Triumph tranny<br =
class=3D"">with less desirable ratios.<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Witness Chris Marx' YouTube =
submittals.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Regards,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Joe Alexander<br class=3D"">645 1st Street<br class=3D"">Jesup,=
 IA 50648<br class=3D""><a href=3D"http://the-vintage-racer.com" =
class=3D"">The-vintage-racer.com</a><br =
class=3D"">Gasketinnovations.com<br class=3D"">Cell: =
&nbsp;319.464.4711<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">On Feb 20, 2016, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Bastuck =
makes dog box internals with an OD mainshaft.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Tony Drews<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">At 12:17 AM =
2/20/2016, Jim Gray wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<br class=3D""> =
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class=3D"">Can anyone tell me if it's possible to add a Jtype OD to a =
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I got bumped too.

Anyhow, I run standard Bastuck ratios, 4.3 Salisbury LSD Southwick axle with=
 a 87mm all steel engine running to 6750 gear change light and rev limiter s=
et to 7250. Oh, it turns 197bhp at the flywheel too.

Keith

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Feb 2016, at 20:18, Bill <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I hit just under 7K at the end of the RA straight with my 3.45 rear end dr=
afting Sam Halkias (I think). Poor old Peyote almost shook to pieces. Scared=
 the crap out of me.=20
>> Cc: Jim Gray <[email-masked]>, Keith Files <keithfiles@btintern=
et.com>, Joe Alexander <[email-masked]>, Tony Drews <tony@ton=
ydrews.com>
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99ve used 3.7 and higher (3.45) with good effect using a Quaife d=
og box with a southwick-converted stock rear end. With close ratios you can a=
fford to be taller since it turns your effectively three speed box into four=
 once 1st gear becomes useful for more than getting out of the pits. You jus=
t need to get used to using first in the tight stuff.=20
>>> I run a Quaife dog box (was unaware of the Bastuck option at that time),=
 3.8 rear end ratio (Ford 8" - pre-Southwick rear axle conversion).  I used t=
o run 4.1 with an OD.  I haven't lost any speed out of the turns.  There are=
 a couple of tracks where I legitimately use first gear (which is much talle=
r than stock).  It's a joy to shift.
>>>> I should probably clarify a bit. I just purchased a dog box, it's on th=
e way
>>>> to Colorado. I still use a stock crank so my rev limit is 6 - 6200 RPM.=

>>>> In Colorado I use the OD on the longer straights, my final drive is 4:1=
0 .
>>>> If I go back to a 4 speed I'll run out of rev's and If I go to 3:70's I=

>>>> expect
>>>> to lose some time getting off the corners. I may just have to wait unti=
l I
>>>> Bastuck; I can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear se=
ts
>>>>>> On 20 Feb 2016, at 15:13, Joe Alexander <[email-masked]=
m>
>>>>> I'd have to pursue, but there might be a potential for a group purchas=
e.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> All things considered we decided that a Bastuck dog box was preferable=

>>>> over a Triumph close ratio conversion or converting to a non-Triumph tr=
anny
>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to add a Jtype OD to a TR4/6 dog=
 box
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I got bumped too.</div><div id=3D"Appl=
eMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Anyhow, I run stand=
ard Bastuck ratios, 4.3 Salisbury LSD Southwick axle with a 87mm all steel e=
ngine running to 6750 gear change light and rev limiter set to 7250. Oh, it t=
urns 197bhp at the flywheel too.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></d=
iv><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Keith<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><=
br>On 20 Feb 2016, at 20:18, Bill &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dutf-8">Go=
t bumped for too many recipients.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>=
<div class=3D"">I hit just under 7K at the end of the RA straight with my 3.=
45 rear end drafting Sam Halkias (I think). Poor old Peyote almost shook to p=
ieces. Scared the crap out of me.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Bill<br class=3D=
""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">=
Begin forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div s=
tyle=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left:=
 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica=
 Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=
=3D"">From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helv=
etica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Bill &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Bi=
[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span=
></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;=
 margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-fo=
nt, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D=
""><b class=3D"">Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-sys=
tem-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">R=
e: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available</b><br class=3D""></span></div><div style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px=
;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neu=
e, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"=
">Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetic=
a Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">February 20, 2016 at 9:50:55 AM H=
ST<br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0=
px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba=
(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To: </b></span><span style=3D"font=
-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D=
"">FOT Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">fot@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px;=
 margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-se=
rif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc: </b></span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans=
-serif;" class=3D"">Jim Gray &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, Keith Files &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,=
 Joe Alexander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D=
"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, Tony Drews &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></spa=
n></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve used 3.7=
 and higher (3.45) with good effect using a Quaife dog box with a southwick-=
converted stock rear end. With close ratios you can afford to be taller sinc=
e it turns your effectively three speed box into four once 1st gear becomes u=
seful for more than getting out of the pits. You just need to get used to us=
ing first in the tight stuff. <br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><=
blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Feb 20, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Tony Drews &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I run a Quaife dog box (was unaware o=
f the Bastuck option at that time), 3.8 rear end ratio (Ford 8" - pre-Southw=
ick rear axle conversion). &nbsp;I used to run 4.1 with an OD. &nbsp;I haven=
't lost any speed out of the turns. &nbsp;There are a couple of tracks where=
 I legitimately use first gear (which is much taller than stock). &nbsp;It's=
 a joy to shift.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Tony Drews<br class=3D""><br c=
lass=3D"">At 10:13 AM 2/20/2016, Jim Gray wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite" class=3D"">I should probably clarify a bit. I just purchased a d=
og box, it's on the way<br class=3D"">to Colorado. I still use a stock crank=
 so my rev limit is 6 - 6200 RPM.<br class=3D"">In Colorado I use the OD on t=
he longer straights, my final drive is 4:10 .<br class=3D"">If I go back to a=
 4 speed I'll run out of rev's and If I go to 3:70's I<br class=3D"">expect<=
br class=3D"">to lose some time getting off the corners. I may just have to w=
ait until I<br class=3D"">get the Moldex crank sometime in the future so I c=
an increase my<br class=3D"">rev limit.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br class=3D"">From: Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@a=
utox.team.net" class=3D"">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf O=
f Keith Files<br class=3D"">Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 9:04 AM<br cla=
ss=3D"">To: Joe Alexander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D=
"">Subject: Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available<br class=3D""><br class=3D""=
>Dear all,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have 2 dog boxes for my Sebring TR=
4 with the gear sets supplied by<br class=3D"">Bastuck; I can confirm that t=
hey are way better than the Quaife gear sets<br class=3D"">that I run in my 2=
 dog boxes that I have for my TR6.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Try, you wil=
l not be disappointed.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Keith<br class=3D""><br c=
lass=3D"">Sent from my iPad<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D=
"cite" class=3D"">On 20 Feb 2016, at 15:13, Joe Alexander &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;<br class=3D""></blockquote>wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"=
cite" class=3D""><br class=3D"">List,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If you ha=
ve an interest in a Bastuck dog box, please contact me.<br class=3D""><br cl=
ass=3D"">Bastuck just did a short run of their very good gear sets.<br class=
=3D""><br class=3D"">We have two kits coming. One will be available for sale=
 below retail<br class=3D""></blockquote>price.<br class=3D""><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite" class=3D""><br class=3D"">I'd have to pursue, but there might be=
 a potential for a group purchase.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">All things c=
onsidered we decided that a Bastuck dog box was preferable<br class=3D""></b=
lockquote>over a Triumph close ratio conversion or converting to a non-Trium=
ph tranny<br class=3D"">with less desirable ratios.<br class=3D""><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Witness Chris Marx' YouTube submit=
tals.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Regards,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Joe=
 Alexander<br class=3D"">645 1st Street<br class=3D"">Jesup, IA 50648<br cla=
ss=3D""><a href=3D"http://the-vintage-racer.com" class=3D"">The-vintage-race=
r.com</a><br class=3D""><a href=3D"http://gasketinnovations.com">Gasketinnov=
ations.com</a><br class=3D"">Cell: &nbsp;319.464.4711<br class=3D""><br clas=
s=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Feb 20, 2016, at 12:36 AM, To=
ny Drews &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Bastuck makes dog box internals with a=
n OD mainshaft.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Tony Drews<br class=3D""><br cl=
ass=3D"">At 12:17 AM 2/20/2016, Jim Gray wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote ty=
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 00:07:33 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi Joe, 
I didn't get the original message. I'd be interested in the gear set info. 

// Dave 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Keith Files" <[email-masked]> 
To: "Joe Alexander" <[email-masked]> 
Cc: [email-masked] 
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 8:04:06 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available 

Dear all, 

Keith 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div>Hi Joe,<br></div><div>I didn't get the original message. &nbsp;I'd=
 be interested in the gear set info.</div><div><br></div><div>// Dave</div>=
<div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal=
;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-se=
rif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Keith Files" &lt;[email-masked]=
om&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Joe Alexander" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<=
br><b>Cc: </b>[email-masked]<br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, February 20, 201=
6 8:04:06 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available<br><div=
><br></div>Dear all,<br><div><br></div>I have 2 dog boxes for my Sebring TR=
4 with the gear sets supplied by Bastuck; I can confirm that they are way b=
etter than the Quaife gear sets that I run in my 2 dog boxes that I have fo=
r my TR6.<br><div><br></div>Try, you will not be disappointed.<br><div><br>=
</div>Keith<br><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad<br><div><br></div>&gt; On 2=
0 Feb 2016, at 15:13, Joe Alexander &lt;[email-masked]&gt; w=
rote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; List,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; If you have an interest in a =
Bastuck dog box, please contact me. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Bastuck just did a sh=
ort run of their very good gear sets.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; We have two kits com=
ing. One will be available for sale below retail price.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I'=
d have to pursue, but there might be a potential for a group purchase.<br>&=
gt; <br>&gt; All things considered we decided that a Bastuck dog box was pr=
eferable over a Triumph close ratio conversion or converting to a non-Trium=
ph tranny with less desirable ratios.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Witness Chris Marx' =
YouTube submittals. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Regards,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Joe Alexand=
er<br>&gt; 645 1st Street<br>&gt; Jesup, IA 50648<br>&gt; The-vintage-racer=
.com<br>&gt; Gasketinnovations.com<br>&gt; Cell: &nbsp;319.464.4711<br>&gt;=
 <br>&gt;&gt; On Feb 20, 2016, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews &lt;[email-masked]=
om&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Bastuck makes dog box internals with=
 an OD mainshaft.<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Tony Drews<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&=
gt; At 12:17 AM 2/20/2016, Jim Gray wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Content-Type: mu=
ltipart/alternative;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; boundary=3D"----=
=3D_NextPart_000_063C_01D16B6B.B9FA8210"<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Content-Language: =
en-us<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Can anyone tell me if it's possible =
to add a Jtype OD to a TR4/6 dog box ?<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Jim g<br>&gt;&gt;&gt=
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From: Kas Kastner <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:17:04 -0800

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Just for the record, those that do not know, Ranier Bastuck is a very nice
man and a TRIUMPH racer himself. He sponsors racers and even race events in
Germany and makes absolute quality parts.

*Never be beaten by equipment.*

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: davehogye <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available
To: Keith Files <[email-masked]>
Cc: Joe Alexander <[email-masked]>, Friends of Triumph <
[email-masked]>

Hi Joe,

// Dave

------------------------------
*From: *"Keith Files" <[email-masked]>
*To: *"Joe Alexander" <[email-masked]>
*Cc: [email-masked]
*Sent: *Saturday, February 20, 2016 8:04:06 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available

Dear all,

Keith

Sent from my iPad

>>> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to add a Jtype OD to a TR4/6 dog
box ?

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Just for the record, those that do not know, Ranier Bastuc=
k is a very nice man and a TRIUMPH racer himself. He sponsors racers and ev=
en race events=C2=A0in Germany and makes absolute quality parts. <br clear=
=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><p><strong><font color=3D"#000=
099">Never be beaten by equipment.</font></strong></p></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>F=
rom: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">davehogye</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br>Da=
te: Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:07 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Avai=
lable<br>To: Keith Files &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">k=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: Joe Alexander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, Frie=
nds of Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;<br><br><br><div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;f=
ont-size:12pt"><div>Hi Joe,<br></div><div>I didn&#39;t get the original mes=
sage.=C2=A0 I&#39;d be interested in the gear set info.</div><div><br></div=
><div>// Dave</div><div><br></div><hr><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-f=
amily:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-weig=
ht:normal;text-decoration:none"><b>From: </b>&quot;Keith Files&quot; &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">keithfiles@bti=
nternet.com</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>&quot;Joe Alexander&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">joealexandervintage=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, February 20,=
 2016 8:04:06 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available<br>=
<div><br></div>Dear all,<br><div><br></div>I have 2 dog boxes for my Sebrin=
g TR4 with the gear sets supplied by Bastuck; I can confirm that they are w=
ay better than the Quaife gear sets that I run in my 2 dog boxes that I hav=
e for my TR6.<br><div><br></div>Try, you will not be disappointed.<br><div>=
<br></div>Keith<br><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad<br><div><br></div>&gt; =
On 20 Feb 2016, at 15:13, Joe Alexander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joealexanderv=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; List,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; If you have an interest in a =
Bastuck dog box, please contact me. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Bastuck just did a sh=
ort run of their very good gear sets.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; We have two kits com=
ing. One will be available for sale below retail price.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I&=
#39;d have to pursue, but there might be a potential for a group purchase.<=
br>&gt; <br>&gt; All things considered we decided that a Bastuck dog box wa=
s preferable over a Triumph close ratio conversion or converting to a non-T=
riumph tranny with less desirable ratios.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Witness Chris Ma=
rx&#39; YouTube submittals. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Regards,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Joe=
 Alexander<br>&gt; 645 1st Street<br>&gt; Jesup, IA 50648<br>&gt; The-vinta=
ge-racer.com<br>&gt; Gasketinnovations.com<br>&gt; Cell: =C2=A0319.464.4711=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; On Feb 20, 2016, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Bastuck makes dog box internals with an OD=
 mainshaft.<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Tony Drews<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; At=
 12:17 AM 2/20/2016, Jim Gray wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Content-Type: multipar=
t/alternative;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 boundary=3D&quot;----=
=3D_NextPart_000_063C_01D16B6B.B9FA8210&quot;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Content-Langu=
age: en-us<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Can anyone tell me if it&#39;s =
possible to add a Jtype OD to a TR4/6 dog box ?<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Jim g<br>&g=
t;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
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From: "Marcel Van Mulders" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 21:28:31 +0100

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The Bastuck dog box has the close ratio gears : 2,.223(1st) ; 1.513(2nd) ;
1.205 (3rd). The inputshaft gear has 20 teeth, the corresponding lay gear
has 23 teeth.
 I believe this is tha same as the Moss  close ratio non dog box ratio's and
also the same
as the Quaife dog box ratio's. The bastuck input shaft is always 1" x 10
splines and you have to buy the Tilton clutch disk if you want to fit a
smaller 184mm/7 1/4" clutch. A Helix disk 1" x 10 splines won't slide over
the Bastuck input shaft, unless the splines are made a bit smaller. Bastuck
is selling the main shaft for an J-type overdrive. I think no one is selling
A-type o/d dog box mainshafts. My first dog box(2005) was a Quaife dog box
with the 23 splines Ford input shaft and contrary to Keith Files experience
(maybe his Quaife box is from a newer production run?), it worked perfectly
(as my Bastuck dog box does now) for 6 years and then the input shaft was
bent after the clutch exploded at a logged 8250 rpm, caused by a piece of
aluminium that blocked the throttle in wide open position for some 3
seconds. No one is selling an o/d main shaft for the Quaife dog box.
Marcel
  _____  

Van: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] Namens davehogye
Verzonden: zondag 21 februari 2016 01:08
Aan: Keith Files
CC: Joe Alexander; Friends of Triumph
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available

Hi Joe,

// Dave

  _____  

Dear all,

Keith

Sent from my iPad

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NT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2>&nbsp;I&nbsp;believe&nbsp;this&nbsp;is&nbsp;tha&nbsp;same&nbsp;a=
s&nbsp;the&nbsp;Moss&nbsp;&nbsp;close&nbsp;ratio&nbsp;non&nbsp;dog&nbsp;b=
ox&nbsp;ratio's&nbsp;and&nbsp;also&nbsp;the&nbsp;sam<SPAN=20
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size=3D2>a<SPAN class=3D588295219-21022016>s the Quaife dog box ratio's. =
The bastuck=20
input shaft is always 1" x 10 splines and you have to buy the Tilton =
clutch disk=20
if you want to fit a smaller 184mm/7 1/4" clutch. A Helix disk 1" x 10 =
splines=20
won't slide over the Bastuck input shaft, unless the splines are made a =
bit=20
smaller.&nbsp;Bastuck is selling the main shaft for an J-type overdrive. =
I think=20
no one is selling A-type o/d dog box mainshafts.&nbsp;My first dog =
box(2005) was=20
a Quaife dog box with the 23 splines Ford input shaft and contrary to =
Keith=20
Files experience (maybe his Quaife box is from a newer production run?), =
it=20
worked perfectly (as my Bastuck dog box does now) for 6 years and then =
the input=20
shaft was bent after the clutch exploded at a logged 8250 rpm, caused by =
a piece=20
of aluminium that blocked the throttle in wide open position for some 3 =
seconds.=20
No one is selling an o/d main shaft for the Quaife dog=20
box.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D588295219-21022016>Marcel</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><B>Van:</B> Fot =
[mailto:[email-masked]]=20
<B>Namens </B>davehogye<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zondag 21 februari 2016=20
01:08<BR><B>Aan:</B> Keith Files<BR><B>CC:</B> Joe Alexander; Friends of =

Triumph<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B> Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box=20
Available<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000">
<DIV>Hi Joe,<BR></DIV>
<DIV>I didn't get the original message. &nbsp;I'd be interested in the =
gear set=20
info.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>// Dave</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000; =
FONT-STYLE: normal"><B>From:=20
</B>"Keith Files" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<BR><B>To: </B>"Joe=20
Alexander" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<BR><B>Cc:=20
</B>[email-masked]<BR><B>Sent: </B>Saturday, February 20, 2016 =
8:04:06=20
AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dear all,<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I have 2 dog boxes for my Sebring TR4 with the gear sets =
supplied=20
by Bastuck; I can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear =
sets=20
that I run in my 2 dog boxes that I have for my TR6.<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Try, you will not be disappointed.<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Keith<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Sent from my iPad<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>&gt; On 20 Feb 2016, at 15:13, Joe Alexander=20
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
List,<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; If you have an interest in a Bastuck dog box, please contact =
me.=20
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Bastuck just did a short run of their very good gear=20
sets.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; We have two kits coming. One will be available =
for sale=20
below retail price.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'd have to pursue, but there might =
be a=20
potential for a group purchase.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; All things considered =
we=20
decided that a Bastuck dog box was preferable over a Triumph close ratio =

conversion or converting to a non-Triumph tranny with less desirable=20
ratios.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Witness Chris Marx' YouTube submittals. =
<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; Regards,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Joe Alexander<BR>&gt; 645 1st =
Street<BR>&gt;=20
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Hi Marcel,

I still run the Quaife gear sets in my TR6 dog boxes, I simply said that the=
 Bastuck gear sets in my TR4 dog boxes are way better. The quality of compon=
ents is better and the shift is better, subjective it might be but that is m=
y opinion.

Cheers,

Keith

Sent from my iPad

> On 21 Feb 2016, at 20:28, Marcel Van Mulders <[email-masked]=
e> wrote:
>=20
> =20
> The Bastuck dog box has the close ratio gears : 2,.223(1st) ; 1.513(2nd) ;=
  1.205 (3rd). The inputshaft gear has 20 teeth, the corresponding lay gear h=
as 23 teeth.
>  I believe this is tha same as the Moss  close ratio non dog box ratio's a=
nd also the same
> as the Quaife dog box ratio's. The bastuck input shaft is always 1" x 10 s=
plines and you have to buy the Tilton clutch disk if you want to fit a small=
er 184mm/7 1/4" clutch. A Helix disk 1" x 10 splines won't slide over the Ba=
stuck input shaft, unless the splines are made a bit smaller. Bastuck is sel=
ling the main shaft for an J-type overdrive. I think no one is selling A-typ=
e o/d dog box mainshafts. My first dog box(2005) was a Quaife dog box with t=
he 23 splines Ford input shaft and contrary to Keith Files experience (maybe=
 his Quaife box is from a newer production run?), it worked perfectly (as my=
 Bastuck dog box does now) for 6 years and then the input shaft was bent aft=
er the clutch exploded at a logged 8250 rpm, caused by a piece of aluminium t=
hat blocked the throttle in wide open position for some 3 seconds. No one is=
 selling an o/d main shaft for the Quaife dog box.
> I didn't get the original message.  I'd be interested in the gear set info=
.
> I have 2 dog boxes for my Sebring TR4 with the gear sets supplied by Bastu=
ck; I can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear sets that I r=
un in my 2 dog boxes that I have for my TR6.
> > On 20 Feb 2016, at 15:13, Joe Alexander <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
> >=20
> > List,
> >=20
> > If you have an interest in a Bastuck dog box, please contact me.=20
> >=20
> > We have two kits coming. One will be available for sale below retail pri=
ce.
> >=20
> > I'd have to pursue, but there might be a potential for a group purchase.=

> >=20
> > All things considered we decided that a Bastuck dog box was preferable o=
ver a Triumph close ratio conversion or converting to a non-Triumph tranny w=
ith less desirable ratios.
> >=20
> > Witness Chris Marx' YouTube submittals.=20
> >=20
> > Regards,
> >=20
> > Joe Alexander
> > 645 1st Street
> > Jesup, IA 50648
> > The-vintage-racer.com
> > Gasketinnovations.com
> > Cell:  319.464.4711
> >=20
> >>> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to add a Jtype OD to a TR4/6 dog b=
ox ?
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Marcel,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I still run the Quaife gear sets in my TR6 dog boxes, I simply said that the Bastuck gear sets in my TR4 dog boxes are way better. The quality of components is better and the shift is better, subjective it might be but that is my opinion.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Cheers,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Keith<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 21 Feb 2016, at 20:28, Marcel Van Mulders &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<div><span class="588295219-21022016"></span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">The&nbsp;Bastuck&nbsp;dog&nbsp;box&nbsp;has&nbsp;the&nbsp;close&nbsp;ratio&nbsp;gears&nbsp;:&nbsp;2<span class="588295219-21022016">,</span>.2<span class="588295219-21022016">2</span>3<span class="588295219-21022016">(1st)</span>&nbsp;;&nbsp;1.513<span class="588295219-21022016">(2nd)</span>&nbsp;;&nbsp;&nbsp;1.205&nbsp;(3rd).&nbsp;The&nbsp;inputshaft&nbsp;gear&nbsp;has&nbsp;20&nbsp;teeth,&nbsp;the&nbsp;corresponding&nbsp;lay&nbsp;gear&nbsp;has&nbsp;23&nbsp;teeth.</font></font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">&nbsp;I&nbsp;believe&nbsp;this&nbsp;is&nbsp;tha&nbsp;same&nbsp;as&nbsp;the&nbsp;Moss&nbsp;&nbsp;close&nbsp;ratio&nbsp;non&nbsp;dog&nbsp;box&nbsp;ratio's&nbsp;and&nbsp;also&nbsp;the&nbsp;sam<span class="588295219-21022016">e</span></font></font></font></div>
<div><span class="588295219-21022016"></span><span class="588295219-21022016"></span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">a<span class="588295219-21022016">s the Quaife dog box ratio's. The bastuck 
input shaft is always 1" x 10 splines and you have to buy the Tilton clutch disk 
if you want to fit a smaller 184mm/7 1/4" clutch. A Helix disk 1" x 10 splines 
won't slide over the Bastuck input shaft, unless the splines are made a bit 
smaller.&nbsp;Bastuck is selling the main shaft for an J-type overdrive. I think 
no one is selling A-type o/d dog box mainshafts.&nbsp;My first dog box(2005) was 
a Quaife dog box with the 23 splines Ford input shaft and contrary to Keith 
Files experience (maybe his Quaife box is from a newer production run?), it 
worked perfectly (as my Bastuck dog box does now) for 6 years and then the input 
shaft was bent after the clutch exploded at a logged 8250 rpm, caused by a piece 
of aluminium that blocked the throttle in wide open position for some 3 seconds. 
No one is selling an o/d main shaft for the Quaife dog 
box.</span></font></font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="588295219-21022016">Marcel</span></font></font></font></div>
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>Van:</b> Fot [<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] 
<b>Namens </b>davehogye<br><b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 21 februari 2016 
01:08<br><b>Aan:</b> Keith Files<br><b>CC:</b> Joe Alexander; Friends of 
Triumph<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box 
Available<br></font><br></div>
<div></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000">
<div>Hi Joe,<br></div>
<div>I didn't get the original message. &nbsp;I'd be interested in the gear set 
info.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>// Dave</div>
<div><br></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000; FONT-STYLE: normal"><b>From: 
</b>"Keith Files" &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Joe 
Alexander" &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc: 
</b><a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, February 20, 2016 8:04:06 
AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available<br>
<div><br></div>Dear all,<br>
<div><br></div>I have 2 dog boxes for my Sebring TR4 with the gear sets supplied 
by Bastuck; I can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear sets 
that I run in my 2 dog boxes that I have for my TR6.<br>
<div><br></div>Try, you will not be disappointed.<br>
<div><br></div>Keith<br>
<div><br></div>Sent from my iPad<br>
<div><br></div>&gt; On 20 Feb 2016, at 15:13, Joe Alexander 
&lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; List,<br>&gt; 
<br>&gt; If you have an interest in a Bastuck dog box, please contact me. 
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Bastuck just did a short run of their very good gear 
sets.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; We have two kits coming. One will be available for sale 
below retail price.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I'd have to pursue, but there might be a 
potential for a group purchase.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; All things considered we 
decided that a Bastuck dog box was preferable over a Triumph close ratio 
conversion or converting to a non-Triumph tranny with less desirable 
ratios.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Witness Chris Marx' YouTube submittals. <br>&gt; 
<br>&gt; Regards,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Joe Alexander<br>&gt; 645 1st Street<br>&gt; 
Jesup, IA 50648<br>&gt; <a href="http://the-vintage-racer.com">The-vintage-racer.com</a><br>&gt; 
<a href="http://gasketinnovations.com">Gasketinnovations.com</a><br>&gt; Cell: &nbsp;319.464.4711<br>&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; On 
Feb 20, 2016, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; 
wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Bastuck makes dog box internals with an OD 
mainshaft.<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Tony Drews<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; At 12:17 
AM 2/20/2016, Jim Gray wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Content-Type: 
multipart/alternative;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_063C_01D16B6B.B9FA8210"<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; 
Content-Language: en-us<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Can anyone tell me if 
it's possible to add a Jtype OD to a TR4/6 dog box ?<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Jim 
g<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; 
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I am going to assume that spare parts may also be more readily available for=
 the Bastuck?

Joe Alexander
645 1st Street
Jesup, IA 50648
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711

> On Feb 21, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Keith Files <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> Hi Marcel,
>=20
> I still run the Quaife gear sets in my TR6 dog boxes, I simply said that t=
he Bastuck gear sets in my TR4 dog boxes are way better. The quality of comp=
onents is better and the shift is better, subjective it might be but that is=
 my opinion.
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> Keith
>=20
> Sent from my iPad
>=20
>> On 21 Feb 2016, at 20:28, Marcel Van Mulders <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.=
nd also the same
>> I didn't get the original message.  I'd be interested in the gear set inf=
o.
>> I have 2 dog boxes for my Sebring TR4 with the gear sets supplied by Bast=
uck; I can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear sets that I=
 run in my 2 dog boxes that I have for my TR6.
>> > On 20 Feb 2016, at 15:13, Joe Alexander <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>> > We have two kits coming. One will be available for sale below retail pr=
ice.
>> >=20
>> > I'd have to pursue, but there might be a potential for a group purchase=
.
ox ?
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I am going to assume that spare parts m=
ay also be more readily available for the Bastuck?</div><div><br>Joe Alexand=
er<div>645 1st Street</div><div>Jesup, IA 50648</div><div><a href=3D"http://=
The-vintage-racer.com">The-vintage-racer.com</a></div><div><a href=3D"http:/=
/Gasketinnovations.com">Gasketinnovations.com</a></div><div>Cell: &nbsp;319.=
464.4711</div></div><div><br>On Feb 21, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Keith Files &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"cont=
ent-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>Hi Marcel,</div><div i=
d=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I still ru=
n the Quaife gear sets in my TR6 dog boxes, I simply said that the Bastuck g=
ear sets in my TR4 dog boxes are way better. The quality of components is be=
tter and the shift is better, subjective it might be but that is my opinion.=
</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature=
">Cheers,</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMail=
Signature">Keith<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 21 Feb 2016, at 2=
0:28, Marcel Van Mulders &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"A=
rial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"588295219-21022016"></span><font face=3D"Arial"><font co=
lor=3D"#0000ff"><font size=3D"2">The&nbsp;Bastuck&nbsp;dog&nbsp;box&nbsp;has=
&nbsp;the&nbsp;close&nbsp;ratio&nbsp;gears&nbsp;:&nbsp;2<span class=3D"58829=
5219-21022016">,</span>.2<span class=3D"588295219-21022016">2</span>3<span c=
lass=3D"588295219-21022016">(1st)</span>&nbsp;;&nbsp;1.513<span class=3D"588=
295219-21022016">(2nd)</span>&nbsp;;&nbsp;&nbsp;1.205&nbsp;(3rd).&nbsp;The&n=
bsp;inputshaft&nbsp;gear&nbsp;has&nbsp;20&nbsp;teeth,&nbsp;the&nbsp;correspo=
nding&nbsp;lay&nbsp;gear&nbsp;has&nbsp;23&nbsp;teeth.</font></font></font></=
div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#0000ff"><font size=3D"2">&nbsp;I&n=
bsp;believe&nbsp;this&nbsp;is&nbsp;tha&nbsp;same&nbsp;as&nbsp;the&nbsp;Moss&=
nbsp;&nbsp;close&nbsp;ratio&nbsp;non&nbsp;dog&nbsp;box&nbsp;ratio's&nbsp;and=
&nbsp;also&nbsp;the&nbsp;sam<span class=3D"588295219-21022016">e</span></fon=
t></font></font></div>
<div><span class=3D"588295219-21022016"></span><span class=3D"588295219-2102=
2016"></span><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#0000ff"><font size=3D"2">a=
<span class=3D"588295219-21022016">s the Quaife dog box ratio's. The bastuck=
=20
input shaft is always 1" x 10 splines and you have to buy the Tilton clutch d=
isk=20
if you want to fit a smaller 184mm/7 1/4" clutch. A Helix disk 1" x 10 splin=
es=20
won't slide over the Bastuck input shaft, unless the splines are made a bit=20=

smaller.&nbsp;Bastuck is selling the main shaft for an J-type overdrive. I t=
hink=20
no one is selling A-type o/d dog box mainshafts.&nbsp;My first dog box(2005)=
 was=20
a Quaife dog box with the 23 splines Ford input shaft and contrary to Keith=20=

Files experience (maybe his Quaife box is from a newer production run?), it=20=

worked perfectly (as my Bastuck dog box does now) for 6 years and then the i=
nput=20
shaft was bent after the clutch exploded at a logged 8250 rpm, caused by a p=
iece=20
of aluminium that blocked the throttle in wide open position for some 3 seco=
nds.=20
No one is selling an o/d main shaft for the Quaife dog=20
box.</span></font></font></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#0000ff"><font size=3D"2"><span cla=
ss=3D"588295219-21022016">Marcel</span></font></font></font></div>
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<font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><b>Van:</b> Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:fot-boun=
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<b>Namens </b>davehogye<br><b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 21 februari 2016=20
01:08<br><b>Aan:</b> Keith Files<br><b>CC:</b> Joe Alexander; Friends of=20
Triumph<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box=20
Available<br></font><br></div>
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<div>Hi Joe,<br></div>
<div>I didn't get the original message. &nbsp;I'd be interested in the gear s=
et=20
info.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>// Dave</div>
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[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Joe=20
Alexander" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">joealexander=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:=20
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AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available<br>
<div><br></div>Dear all,<br>
<div><br></div>I have 2 dog boxes for my Sebring TR4 with the gear sets supp=
lied=20
by Bastuck; I can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear sets=
=20
that I run in my 2 dog boxes that I have for my TR6.<br>
<div><br></div>Try, you will not be disappointed.<br>
<div><br></div>Keith<br>
<div><br></div>Sent from my iPad<br>
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il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; List,<br>&gt;=20
<br>&gt; If you have an interest in a Bastuck dog box, please contact me.=20=

<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Bastuck just did a short run of their very good gear=20
sets.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; We have two kits coming. One will be available for sa=
le=20
below retail price.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I'd have to pursue, but there might be a=
=20
potential for a group purchase.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; All things considered we=20=

decided that a Bastuck dog box was preferable over a Triumph close ratio=20
conversion or converting to a non-Triumph tranny with less desirable=20
ratios.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Witness Chris Marx' YouTube submittals. <br>&gt;=20=

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From: Bill <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:50:55 -1000

I’ve used 3.7 and higher (3.45) with good effect using a Quaife dog box with a southwick-converted stock rear end. With close ratios you can afford to be taller since it turns your effectively three speed box into four once 1st gear becomes useful for more than getting out of the pits. You just need to get used to using first in the tight stuff. 

> I run a Quaife dog box (was unaware of the Bastuck option at that time), 3.8 rear end ratio (Ford 8" - pre-Southwick rear axle conversion).  I used to run 4.1 with an OD.  I haven't lost any speed out of the turns.  There are a couple of tracks where I legitimately use first gear (which is much taller than stock).  It's a joy to shift.
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From: Keith Files <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 20:22:35 +0000

So, just to put the cat amongst the pigeons....

I run the standard Bastuck ratios with a 4.3 Salisbury LSD with the Southwick conversation. Gear change light at 6750, limiter set to 7250, full steel engine on a 87mm engine delivering 197bhp at the flywheel.

See TR Enterprises Facebook page for some video footage of the car at Silverstone.

Keith

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Feb 2016, at 19:50, Bill <[email-masked]> wrote:
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From: "Jim Gray" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:52:35 -0700

Yeah I'm not going to those revs without a forged crank. I spec'd my cam for my current rev range too so this motor is more or less built to 
the limitations of the crank. I'll probably have one for the next build.
jg

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From: Keith Files [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 1:23 PM
To: Bill <[email-masked]>
Cc: FOT Triumph <[email-masked]>; Jim Gray <[email-masked]>; Joe Alexander <[email-masked]>; Tony Drews <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Bastuck Dog Box Available

Keith

Sent from my iPad

>>> I should probably clarify a bit. I just purchased a dog box, it's on 
>>> the way to Colorado. I still use a stock crank so my rev limit is 6 - 6200 RPM.
>>> If I go back to a 4 speed I'll run out of rev's and If I go to 
>>> 3:70's I expect to lose some time getting off the corners. I may 
>>> just have to wait until I get the Moldex crank sometime in the 
>>> future so I can increase my rev limit.
>>> 
>>> Bastuck; I can confirm that they are way better than the Quaife gear 
>>> sets that I run in my 2 dog boxes that I have for my TR6.
>>> 
>>>> We have two kits coming. One will be available for sale below 
>>>> retail
>>> price.
>>>> 
>>> over a Triumph close ratio conversion or converting to a non-Triumph 
>>> tranny with less desirable ratios.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to add a Jtype OD to a TR4/6 
>>>>>> dog box
>>> ?
>>>>>> Jim g