Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Fwd: Steering arm pic

From: Joe Alexander <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 08:54:29 -0700

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This is new and good news. It may save some hapless TR guy from coming to gr=
ief.

The one we saw at Eagles Canyon was a hay bale incident. It could have been A=
rmco or another Triumph.

Thanks John S and Ken K.

Joe Alexander
645 1st Street
Jesup, IA 50648
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Kenneth Knight" <[email-masked]>
> Date: February 29, 2016 at 8:49:47 AM MST
> To: "'Joe Alexander'" <[email-masked]>
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Fwd: Steering arm pic
>=20
> Just to let everyone know, Moss sells a kit called a Security Kit (667-293=
) that prevents the rack ends from coming apart.  I had already made a part t=
hat was similar for the quick rack I have been running for years but you sho=
uld install this kit if you make the decision to run this rack.   I would ha=
ve no problem installing and racing a quick rack with this kit.
> =20
> Ken=20
> =20
> From: Joe Alexander [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:19 AM
> To: Stephen Borowski
> Cc: FOT Triumph
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Steering arm pic
> =20
> Steve, quick ratios racks have been known to fail. Several of us witnessed=
 this failure at Eagles Canyon.
> =20
> You should research this thoroughly. If I had one I would look at modifyin=
g it to prevent the failure, but many are just not using them.
> =20
> Regards,
>=20
> Joe Alexander
> 645 1st Street
> Jesup, IA 50648
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
>=20
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Stephen Borowski <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> Hello All,
> Ok for you Mechanical Engineers, Which steering arm should I use for my TR=
4 race car? As you can see from the attached picture one steering arm is lon=
ger than the other. I believe the one bolted to the car is from a TR6 and th=
e other resting on top (to show the length difference) is from some other Tr=
iumph. I understand the shorter arm would result in quicker action but would=
 it induce some type of unwanted condition? The Tie Rod end would be just af=
t of the brake disk leading edge=E2=80=A6 FYI I am using the Quick Ratio Rac=
k.
> =20
> On another subject but related. When using the stock steering rack frame m=
ounts, the Tie Rods coming out of the rack end up angled forward towards the=
 front of the car. Im not talking about level of the tie rod, i.e., straight=
 with the rack as this does affect Bump Steer. So if i was to use the forwar=
d mounting holes (don=E2=80=99t use the rear holes) and add an additional pl=
ate thus moving the complete rack forward about one inch, the angle of the t=
ie rods would be straight to the steering arm does this improve performance?=

> =20
> Thanks for your comments.
> =20
> Steve B.
> Florida TR4 Race Car
> =20
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>This is new and good news. It may save=
 some hapless TR guy from coming to grief.</div><div><br></div><div>The one w=
e saw at Eagles Canyon was a hay bale incident. It could have been Armco or a=
nother Triumph.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks John S and Ken K.<br><br>Joe=
 Alexander<div>645 1st Street</div><div>Jesup, IA 50648</div><div><a href=3D=
"http://The-vintage-racer.com">The-vintage-racer.com</a></div><div><a href=3D=
"http://Gasketinnovations.com">Gasketinnovations.com</a></div><div>Cell: &nb=
sp;319.464.4711</div></div><div><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div><b>From:</b> "Kenneth Knight" &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Date:</b> February=
 29, 2016 at 8:49:47 AM MST<br><b>To:</b> "'Joe Alexander'" &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Just to let everyone know, Moss sells a k=
it called a Security Kit (667-293) that prevents the rack ends from coming a=
part.&nbsp; I had already made a part that was similar for the quick rack I h=
ave been running for years but you should install this kit if you make the d=
ecision to run this rack.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would have no problem installing and=
 racing a quick rack with this kit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Ken&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"M=
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uot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div st=
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><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Joe Alexan=
der [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:joealexandervin=
[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 29, 2016 7:19 AM<br><b=
>To:</b> Stephen Borowski<br><b>Cc:</b> FOT Triumph<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [=
Fot] Fwd: Steering arm pic<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Steve, quick ratios r=
acks have been known to fail. Several of us witnessed this failure at Eagles=
 Canyon.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">You should research this thoroughly. If I=
 had one I would look at modifying it to prevent the failure, but many are j=
ust not using them.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards,<br><br>Joe Alexander=
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">645 1st Street<o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jesup, IA 50648<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://The-vintage-racer.com">The-vintage-racer=
.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://G=
asketinnovations.com">Gasketinnovations.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Cell: &nbsp;319.464.4711<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Feb 28, 2016, at=
 3:52 PM, Stephen Borowski &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">biznz=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"marg=
in-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello All,<o:p=
></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ok for you Mechanical Engineers, Whic=
h steering arm should I use for my TR4 race car? As you can see from the att=
ached picture one steering arm is longer than the other. I believe the one b=
olted to the car is from a TR6 and the other resting on top (to show the len=
gth difference) is from some other Triumph. I understand the shorter arm wou=
ld result in quicker action but would it induce some type of unwanted condit=
ion? The Tie Rod end would be just aft of the brake disk leading edge=E2=80=A6=
 FYI I am using the Quick Ratio Rack.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On another s=
ubject but related. When using the stock steering rack <u>frame mounts,</u> t=
he Tie Rods coming out of the rack end up angled forward towards the front o=
f the car. Im not talking about level of the tie rod, i.e., straight with th=
e rack as this does affect Bump Steer. So if i was to use the forward mounti=
ng holes (don=E2=80=99t use the rear holes) and add an additional plate thus=
 moving the complete rack forward about one inch, the angle of the tie rods w=
ould be straight to the steering arm does this improve performance?<o:p></o:=
p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for your comments.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Stev=
e B.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Florida TR4 Race Car<o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b=
r><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Begin forwarded message:<o:=
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