Subject: Re: [Fot] Detroit Locker Question

From: STEPHEN BOROWSKI <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 12:53:30 +0000 (UTC)

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Hello John,You only need to use the button if your running a live axil (TR3=
 & 4s). You must have the button installed so that you can set the axil bea=
ring load (with shims) when installing the axils. Both the axils will touch=
 the button.=C2=A0The TR6 uses an independent rear end and thus you don't h=
ave to set axil bearing loads together, thus no button. Each axil is indepe=
ndent from the other. The rest of the differential/pumpkin is the same.=C2=
=A0FYI, I just sent my live axil rear end to the Southwick=C2=A0machine sho=
p to install the ford type HD axils (no bearing adjustment needed anymore) =
and you don't have to use the button either. You may want to thing about th=
is. Price $1k I can send you a picture of the button and measurements if yo=
u want.=C2=A0Thxs. Steve=20

     On Friday, August 14, 2015 7:51 AM, John Styduhar <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
  =20

 I run a Detroit locker in my TR3 racer and there is no center button that =
you mentioned.=C2=A0
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Robert Lang <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

Hi,
I'm setting up a 3.70 diff and I had a Detriot Locker kicking around, so I =
figured I should use it as a posi. In any case, my TR6 axles seem to bottom=
 out in the Detroit Locker. Note: I had to split the locker (which was held=
 together with a couple of bolts) so that I could install the ring gear and=
 wouldn't you know it - there was enough spring tension in device to pop op=
en. So, I had to figure out how to re-assemble it. Maybe I goofed in the re=
-assembly.

I bought the Locker a long time ago from a guy named Pancho from the west c=
oast. He pulled the part from a Devin Tr3 that he had been vintage racing b=
ut he was returning the car to street trim.
The question is: I know that Quaifes have a center "button" that you can le=
ave out or else the TR6 axles bottom - Does the Locker has a similar piece =
that needs to be there for TR3's but not TR6?
I'd appreciate any advice!!
Right now, I'm pulling one of my Quaifes apart so I can install the 3.70 ge=
ar on that, but I'd rather have the diffs all rady to just pop in and NOT h=
ave to pull the carrier and pinion if I need a gear change!!
Regards,rmlBob Lang339-927-4489p.s. Getting ready for "Whiskey Hill" in Pal=
mer, MA (VRG next weekend). Psyched!!

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nt-size:12px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368_8795"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1439555636368_8794">Hello John,</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1439555636368_4109" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368_410=
8">You only need to use the button if your running a live axil (TR3 &amp; 4=
s). You must have the button installed so that you can set the axil bearing=
 load (with shims) when installing the axils. Both the axils will touch the=
 button.&nbsp;The TR6 uses an independent rear end and thus you don't have =
to set axil bearing loads together, thus no button. Each axil is independen=
t from the other. The rest of the differential/pumpkin is the same.</span><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span>&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439=
555636368_7566" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368_7565">FY=
I, I just sent my live axil rear end to the Southwick&nbsp;machine shop to =
install the ford type HD axils (no bearing adjustment needed anymore) and y=
ou don't have to use the button either. You may want to thing about this. P=
rice $1k I can send you a picture of the button and measurements if you wan=
t.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span>&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
span>Thxs. Steve</span></div>  <br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></d=
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2015 7:51 AM, John Styduhar &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br> </font> =
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div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv9798801347gmail_default" style=3D"font-siz=
e: small;">I run a Detroit locker in my TR3 racer and there is no center bu=
tton that you mentioned.&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D"yiv9798801347gmail_=
extra"><br><div class=3D"yiv9798801347gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6=
:24 PM, Robert Lang <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@y=
ahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:robertlangtr=
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amily: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans=
-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div>Hi,</d=
iv><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm setting up a 3.70 diff and I had a D=
etriot Locker kicking around, so I figured I should use it as a posi. In an=
y case, my TR6 axles seem to bottom out in the Detroit Locker. Note: I had =
to split the locker (which was held together with a couple of bolts) so tha=
t I could install the ring gear and wouldn't you know it - there was enough=
 spring tension in device to pop open. So, I had to figure out how to re-as=
semble it. Maybe I goofed in the re-assembly.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I bought the Locker a long time ago from a guy name=
d Pancho from the west coast. He pulled the part from a Devin Tr3 that he h=
ad been vintage racing but he was returning the car to street trim.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The question is: I know that Quai=
fes have a center "button" that you can leave out or else the TR6 axles bot=
tom - Does the Locker has a similar piece that needs to be there for TR3's =
but not TR6?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'd appreciat=
e any advice!!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Right now, =
I'm pulling one of my Quaifes apart so I can install the 3.70 gear on that,=
 but I'd rather have the diffs all rady to just pop in and NOT have to pull=
 the carrier and pinion if I need a gear change!!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">rml</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Bob Lang</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow">339-927-=
4489</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr">p.s. Getting ready for "Whiskey Hill" in Pal=
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From: davehogye <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:26:26 +0000 (UTC)

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I found this out the hard way on my TR3 with Southwick conversion (Ford full floating axles). The button was left in by the shop that put the rear end together and the axle bearings were quickly ruined. 

Dave H. 
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From: "STEPHEN BOROWSKI" <[email-masked]> 
To: "John Styduhar" <[email-masked]>, "Robert Lang" <[email-masked]> 
Cc: [email-masked] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:53:30 AM 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Detroit Locker Question 

Hello John, 
You only need to use the button if your running a live axil (TR3 & 4s). You must have the button installed so that you can set the axil bearing load (with shims) when installing the axils. Both the axils will touch the button. The TR6 uses an independent rear end and thus you don't have to set axil bearing loads together, thus no button. Each axil is independent from the other. The rest of the differential/pumpkin is the same. 
FYI, I just sent my live axil rear end to the Southwick machine shop to install the ford type HD axils (no bearing adjustment needed anymore) and you don't have to use the button either. You may want to thing about this. Price $1k I can send you a picture of the button and measurements if you want. 
Thxs. Steve 

On Friday, August 14, 2015 7:51 AM, John Styduhar <[email-masked]> wrote: 

I run a Detroit locker in my TR3 racer and there is no center button that you mentioned. 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Robert Lang < [email-masked] > wrote: 

Hi, 

I'm setting up a 3.70 diff and I had a Detriot Locker kicking around, so I figured I should use it as a posi. In any case, my TR6 axles seem to bottom out in the Detroit Locker. Note: I had to split the locker (which was held together with a couple of bolts) so that I could install the ring gear and wouldn't you know it - there was enough spring tension in device to pop open. So, I had to figure out how to re-assemble it. Maybe I goofed in the re-assembly. 

I bought the Locker a long time ago from a guy named Pancho from the west coast. He pulled the part from a Devin Tr3 that he had been vintage racing but he was returning the car to street trim. 

The question is: I know that Quaifes have a center "button" that you can leave out or else the TR6 axles bottom - Does the Locker has a similar piece that needs to be there for TR3's but not TR6? 

Right now, I'm pulling one of my Quaifes apart so I can install the 3.70 gear on that, but I'd rather have the diffs all rady to just pop in and NOT have to pull the carrier and pinion if I need a gear change!! 

Regards, 
rml 
Bob Lang 
339-927-4489 
p.s. Getting ready for "Whiskey Hill" in Palmer, MA (VRG next weekend). Psyched!! 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I found this out the hard way on my TR=
3 with Southwick conversion (Ford full floating axles). The button was left=
 in by the shop that put the rear end together and the axle bearings were q=
uickly ruined. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div=
><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Dave H.</div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=
=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"col=
or: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; f=
ont-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"STE=
PHEN BOROWSKI" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"John Styduhar" &=
lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "Robert Lang" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<b=
r><b>Cc: </b>[email-masked]<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, August 14, 2015 5:5=
3:30 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Detroit Locker Question<br><div><br></=
div><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaN=
eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:=
12px" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; background-color: #fff; font-family: H=
elveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12px;"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368_8795"><span id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368_8794">Hello John,</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1439555636368_4109" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368=
_4108">You only need to use the button if your running a live axil (TR3 &am=
p; 4s). You must have the button installed so that you can set the axil bea=
ring load (with shims) when installing the axils. Both the axils will touch=
 the button.&nbsp;The TR6 uses an independent rear end and thus you don't h=
ave to set axil bearing loads together, thus no button. Each axil is indepe=
ndent from the other. The rest of the differential/pumpkin is the same.</sp=
an></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span>&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1439555636368_7566" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368_7565=
">FYI, I just sent my live axil rear end to the Southwick&nbsp;machine shop=
 to install the ford type HD axils (no bearing adjustment needed anymore) a=
nd you don't have to use the button either. You may want to thing about thi=
s. Price $1k I can send you a picture of the button and measurements if you=
 want.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span>&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><span>Thxs. Steve</span></div><br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><div>=
<br></div></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;" data-=
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> On Friday, August 14, 2015 7:51 AM, John Styduhar &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt; wrote:<br> </span></div><br><div><br></div><div class=3D"y_msg_contain=
er"><div id=3D"yiv9798801347"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv9798801347g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-size: small;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: smal=
l;">I run a Detroit locker in my TR3 racer and there is no center button th=
at you mentioned.&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D"yiv9798801347gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"yiv9798801347gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM,=
 Robert Lang <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6=
@yahoo.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"yiv9798801347gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; paddin=
g-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px;=
 border-left-style: solid;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; pa=
dding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: #cccccc; border-left-width: 1px; border=
-left-style: solid;"><div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: H=
elveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; =
font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" data-mce-style=3D"c=
olor: #000000; font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial=
, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: #ffffff;"><=
div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm setting up a 3.70 diff and=
 I had a Detriot Locker kicking around, so I figured I should use it as a p=
osi. In any case, my TR6 axles seem to bottom out in the Detroit Locker. No=
te: I had to split the locker (which was held together with a couple of bol=
ts) so that I could install the ring gear and wouldn't you know it - there =
was enough spring tension in device to pop open. So, I had to figure out ho=
w to re-assemble it. Maybe I goofed in the re-assembly.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I bought the Locker a long time ago fro=
m a guy named Pancho from the west coast. He pulled the part from a Devin T=
r3 that he had been vintage racing but he was returning the car to street t=
rim.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The question is: I kn=
ow that Quaifes have a center "button" that you can leave out or else the T=
R6 axles bottom - Does the Locker has a similar piece that needs to be ther=
e for TR3's but not TR6?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I=
'd appreciate any advice!!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Right now, I'm pulling one of my Quaifes apart so I can install the 3.70 g=
ear on that, but I'd rather have the diffs all rady to just pop in and NOT =
have to pull the carrier and pinion if I need a gear change!!</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">rml</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Lang</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"">339-927-4489</a></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">p.s. Getting ready for "Whiskey Hill" in Palmer, MA (VRG next weekend)=
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Good idea Stephen to upgrade the Triumph live axle. I forgot to mention
that I am using the Ford axle conversion in my TR3 racer and the Detroit
locker with 4.55 gears. No need to adjust end float or use that button.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 8:53 AM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Hello John,
> You only need to use the button if your running a live axil (TR3 & 4s).
> You must have the button installed so that you can set the axil bearing
> load (with shims) when installing the axils. Both the axils will touch the
> button. The TR6 uses an independent rear end and thus you don't have to set
> axil bearing loads together, thus no button. Each axil is independent from
> the other. The rest of the differential/pumpkin is the same.
>
> FYI, I just sent my live axil rear end to the Southwick machine shop to
> install the ford type HD axils (no bearing adjustment needed anymore) and
> you don't have to use the button either. You may want to thing about this.
> Price $1k I can send you a picture of the button and measurements if you
> want.
>
> Thxs. Steve
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Robert Lang <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm setting up a 3.70 diff and I had a Detriot Locker kicking around, so I
> figured I should use it as a posi. In any case, my TR6 axles seem to bottom
> out in the Detroit Locker. Note: I had to split the locker (which was held
> together with a couple of bolts) so that I could install the ring gear and
> wouldn't you know it - there was enough spring tension in device to pop
> open. So, I had to figure out how to re-assemble it. Maybe I goofed in the
> re-assembly.
>
> I bought the Locker a long time ago from a guy named Pancho from the west
> coast. He pulled the part from a Devin Tr3 that he had been vintage racing
> but he was returning the car to street trim.
>
> The question is: I know that Quaifes have a center "button" that you can
> leave out or else the TR6 axles bottom - Does the Locker has a similar
> piece that needs to be there for TR3's but not TR6?
>
> Right now, I'm pulling one of my Quaifes apart so I can install the 3.70
> gear on that, but I'd rather have the diffs all rady to just pop in and NOT
> have to pull the carrier and pinion if I need a gear change!!
>
> Regards,
> rml
> Bob Lang
> 339-927-4489
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Goo=
d idea Stephen to upgrade the Triumph live axle. I forgot to mention that I=
 am using the Ford axle conversion in my TR3 racer and the Detroit locker w=
ith 4.55 gears. No need to adjust end float or use that button.=C2=A0</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug=
 14, 2015 at 8:53 AM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000=
;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,A=
rial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div><span>Hello John,</span>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>You only need to use the button if your runnin=
g a live axil (TR3 &amp; 4s). You must have the button installed so that yo=
u can set the axil bearing load (with shims) when installing the axils. Bot=
h the axils will touch the button.=C2=A0The TR6 uses an independent rear en=
d and thus you don&#39;t have to set axil bearing loads together, thus no b=
utton. Each axil is independent from the other. The rest of the differentia=
l/pumpkin is the same.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span>=C2=A0</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>FYI, I just sent my live axil rear end to the Sout=
hwick=C2=A0machine shop to install the ford type HD axils (no bearing adjus=
tment needed anymore) and you don&#39;t have to use the button either. You =
may want to thing about this. Price $1k I can send you a picture of the but=
ton and measurements if you want.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span=
>=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Thxs. Steve</span></div>  <br><div><br>=
<br></div><div style=3D"display:block"> <div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica=
Neue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12px=
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ucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Ar=
ial" size=3D"2"> On Friday, August 14, 2015 7:51 AM, John Styduhar &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div s=
tyle=3D"font-size:small">I run a Detroit locker in my TR3 racer and there i=
s no center button that you mentioned.=C2=A0</div></div><div><br><div>On Sa=
t, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Robert Lang <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">robertlangt=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-wi=
dth:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-f=
amily:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif=
;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div>Hi,</div><div><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m setting up a 3.70 diff and I had a Detriot Lo=
cker kicking around, so I figured I should use it as a posi. In any case, m=
y TR6 axles seem to bottom out in the Detroit Locker. Note: I had to split =
the locker (which was held together with a couple of bolts) so that I could=
 install the ring gear and wouldn&#39;t you know it - there was enough spri=
ng tension in device to pop open. So, I had to figure out how to re-assembl=
e it. Maybe I goofed in the re-assembly.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">I bought the Locker a long time ago from a guy named Pan=
cho from the west coast. He pulled the part from a Devin Tr3 that he had be=
en vintage racing but he was returning the car to street trim.</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The question is: I know that Quaifes h=
ave a center &quot;button&quot; that you can leave out or else the TR6 axle=
s bottom - Does the Locker has a similar piece that needs to be there for T=
R3&#39;s but not TR6?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#3=
9;d appreciate any advice!!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Right now, I&#39;m pulling one of my Quaifes apart so I can install the 3=
.70 gear on that, but I&#39;d rather have the diffs all rady to just pop in=
 and NOT have to pull the carrier and pinion if I need a gear change!!</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>rml</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Lang</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a rel=3D"nofollo=
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From: "Marcel Van Mulders" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:39:49 +0200

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4.55 rear axle gears : wtih or without overdrive gearbox, John?
Marcel.

  _____  

Van: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] Namens John Styduhar
Verzonden: zaterdag 15 augustus 2015 0:22
Aan: STEPHEN BOROWSKI; davehogye
CC: [email-masked]
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Detroit Locker Question

Good idea Stephen to upgrade the Triumph live axle. I forgot to mention that
I am using the Ford axle conversion in my TR3 racer and the Detroit locker
with 4.55 gears. No need to adjust end float or use that button. 

Hello John,
You only need to use the button if your running a live axil (TR3 & 4s). You
must have the button installed so that you can set the axil bearing load
(with shims) when installing the axils. Both the axils will touch the
button. The TR6 uses an independent rear end and thus you don't have to set
axil bearing loads together, thus no button. Each axil is independent from
the other. The rest of the differential/pumpkin is the same.

Thxs. Steve

On Friday, August 14, 2015 7:51 AM, John Styduhar <[email-masked]>
wrote:

I run a Detroit locker in my TR3 racer and there is no center button that
you mentioned. 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Robert Lang <[email-masked]> wrote:

Hi,

The question is: I know that Quaifes have a center "button" that you can
leave out or else the TR6 axles bottom - Does the Locker has a similar piece
that needs to be there for TR3's but not TR6?

Regards,
rml
Bob Lang
339-927-4489
p.s. Getting ready for "Whiskey Hill" in Palmer, MA (VRG next weekend).
Psyched!!

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  <DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN>You only need to use the button if your running a =
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