Subject: Re: [Fot] Seat belts

From: Todd Redmond <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 00:16:30 -0400

Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and two behind the drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belts. Location is important. Can't be too sharp an angle. I've done this in several street/track cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars were hidden under the rear seat.  Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harness with snap in attachments. U are good to go.  If u want to add the 5th hook for the anti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a 5 pt harness. 

Thanks
Todd Redmond

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Hi All.
>   I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,  the tech inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I need to improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I'm limited. Any suggestions?
>                          Thanks. P.J.
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From: McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:34:48 -0500

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Hi.
 Thanks for the replies.  I'm thinking a four or five point restraint is
what I want but getting the attachment points for the shoulder belts might
be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment bracket between the
rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I would call the rear
seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind the seat is that
currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put behind the seat. I
thought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall thickness would be more
than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to it through the carpet as
attachment points. That way only the eye bolts and the belts will be
visible from above. Any thoughts?
                   P.J.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and two behind the
> drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belts. Location is
> important. Can't be too sharp an angle. I've done this in several
> street/track cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars were hidden
> under the rear seat.  Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harness with snap in
> attachments. U are good to go.  If u want to add the 5th hook for the anti
> submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a 5 pt harness.
>
> Thanks
> Todd Redmond
>
> >   I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,  the tech inspector
> let it slide but told me for the next track day I need to improve) but with
> it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I'm limited. Any suggestions?
> >                          Thanks. P.J.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi.</div><div>=C2=A0Thanks for the replies.=C2=A0 I&#=
39;m thinking a four or five point restraint is what I want but getting the=
 attachment points for the shoulder belts might be tough. I am considering =
welding in an attachment bracket between the rear fenderwells and keeping i=
t hidden below what I would call the rear seat top or cubby hole top or wha=
tever that area behind the seat is that currently is carpeted and hides all=
 the junk I put behind the seat. I thought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing wit=
h .125 wall thickness would be more than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye =
bolts to it through the carpet as attachment points. That way only the eye =
bolts and the belts will be visible from above. Any thoughts?</div><div>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 P.J.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmon=
d <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and t=
wo behind the drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belt=
s. Location is important. Can&#39;t be too sharp an angle. I&#39;ve done th=
is in several street/track cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars=
 were hidden under the rear seat.=C2=A0 Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harnes=
s with snap in attachments. U are good to go.=C2=A0 If u want to add the 5t=
h hook for the anti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a 5 pt=
 harness.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Todd Redmond<br>
<br>
&gt; On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mc=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi All.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0I&#39;m looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,=C2=
=A0 the tech inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I ne=
ed to improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I&#39=
;m limited. Any suggestions?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks. P.J.<br>
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From: John Hasty <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 01:00:06 +0000

With no roll bar you should consider the period technique... One lap belt for you and another on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you flip you can lay down across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt and hold on!!!!!

Sent from my iPhone

Hi.
 Thanks for the replies.  I'm thinking a four or five point restraint is what I want but getting the attachment points for the shoulder belts might be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment bracket between the rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I would call the rear seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind the seat is that currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put behind the seat. I thought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall thickness would be more than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to it through the carpet as attachment points. That way only the eye bolts and the belts will be visible from above. Any thoughts?
                   P.J.

Thanks
Todd Redmond

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From: McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 22:29:30 -0500

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Really John?? What period was that ?
  I was fine with just a lap belt for  a track day but in order to do
another their telling me I need to have at least a shoulder restraint
added.   Does anyone make a good quality three point system that will fit
our cars?
 As for a roll cage I completely understand the need and function but I
have decided not to go much farther with performance upgrades to this car.
I just feel like it's too nice to chop all up and make a race car. I'd much
rather buy a car that has been raced or one which is in need of restoration
that I won't feel bad about chopping up a bit. Prefer GT6 but I am
considering a TR6 also. Anything out there??
                      P.J.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:00 PM, John Hasty <[email-masked]> wrote:

> With no roll bar you should consider the period technique... One lap belt
> for you and another on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you flip
> you can lay down across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt and hold
> on!!!!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> [email-masked]>> wrote:
>
> Hi.
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond <[email-masked]
> > On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Really John?? What period was that ? </div><div>=C2=
=A0 I was fine with=C2=A0just a lap belt for=C2=A0 a track day=C2=A0but in =
order to do another their telling me I need to have at least a shoulder res=
traint added.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Does anyone make a good quality three point =
system that will fit our cars?</div><div>=C2=A0As for a roll cage I complet=
ely understand the need and function but I have decided not to go much fart=
her with performance upgrades to this car. I just feel like it&#39;s too ni=
ce to chop all up and make a race car. I&#39;d much rather buy a car that h=
as been raced or one which is in need of restoration that I won&#39;t feel =
bad about chopping up a bit. Prefer GT6 but I am considering a TR6 also. An=
ything out there??</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 P.J.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:00 PM, John Hasty <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">With no roll bar you s=
hould consider the period technique... One lap belt for you and another on =
the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you flip you can lay down across t=
he seats and grab the passenger lap belt and hold on!!!!!<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:35 PM, &quot;McKearn McKearn&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
Hi.<br>
=C2=A0Thanks for the replies.=C2=A0 I&#39;m thinking a four or five point r=
estraint is what I want but getting the attachment points for the shoulder =
belts might be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment bracket bet=
ween the rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I would call the=
 rear seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind the seat is t=
hat currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put behind the seat. I t=
hought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall thickness would be more =
than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to it through the carpet as at=
tachment points. That way only the eye bolts and the belts will be visible =
from above. Any thoughts?<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0P.J.<b=
r>
<br>
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alfett=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and two behind the dri=
vers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belts. Location is im=
portant. Can&#39;t be too sharp an angle. I&#39;ve done this in several str=
eet/track cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars were hidden unde=
r the rear seat.=C2=A0 Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harness with snap in at=
tachments. U are good to go.=C2=A0 If u want to add the 5th hook for the an=
ti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a 5 pt harness.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Todd Redmond<br>
<br>
&gt; On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mc=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mckear=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi All.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0I&#39;m looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,=C2=
=A0 the tech inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I ne=
ed to improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I&#39=
;m limited. Any suggestions?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks. P.J.<br>
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From: Duncan Charlton <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:45:39 -0500

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PJ,

I can=E2=80=99t find the web link at the moment but several times I have =
installed 3-point harnesses in street-driven Morgans.  These have a =
metal buckle, similar to what you see used on an airline seat but wider. =
 The last two sets I installed had an adjustment strap at the buckle and =
another at the aft end of the shoulder harness (the male part of the =
buckle can be slid along the strap that serves both as shoulder strap =
and as part of the lap belt). I found these with a Google search in the =
past.  You might find them in an online aircraft parts catalog such as =
Wicks or Aircraft Spruce and Specialty =E2=80=94 if looking in an =
aircraft catalog search for the ones without an STC (supplemental type =
certificate) since they cost a lot more but are not necessarily better =
for your needs. =20

Duncan

> On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:29 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
>   I was fine with just a lap belt for  a track day but in order to do =
another their telling me I need to have at least a shoulder restraint =
added.   Does anyone make a good quality three point system that will =
fit our cars?
>  As for a roll cage I completely understand the need and function but =
I have decided not to go much farther with performance upgrades to this =
car. I just feel like it's too nice to chop all up and make a race car. =
I'd much rather buy a car that has been raced or one which is in need of =
restoration that I won't feel bad about chopping up a bit. Prefer GT6 =
but I am considering a TR6 also. Anything out there??
>                       P.J.
>=20
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:00 PM, John Hasty <[email-masked] =
> With no roll bar you should consider the period technique... One lap =
belt for you and another on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you =
flip you can lay down across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt =
and hold on!!!!!
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:35 PM, "McKearn McKearn" <[email-masked] =
>=20
> Hi.
>  Thanks for the replies.  I'm thinking a four or five point restraint =
is what I want but getting the attachment points for the shoulder belts =
might be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment bracket =
between the rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I would =
call the rear seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind =
the seat is that currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put =
behind the seat. I thought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall =
thickness would be more than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to =
it through the carpet as attachment points. That way only the eye bolts =
and the belts will be visible from above. Any thoughts?
>                    P.J.
>=20
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond =
<[email-masked] =
> Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and two behind =
the drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belts. =
Location is important. Can't be too sharp an angle. I've done this in =
several street/track cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars =
were hidden under the rear seat.  Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harness =
with snap in attachments. U are good to go.  If u want to add the 5th =
hook for the anti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a 5 =
pt harness.
>=20
> Thanks
> Todd Redmond
>=20
> > On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked] =
> >
> > Hi All.
> >   I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,  the tech =
inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I need to =
improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I'm =
limited. Any suggestions?
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t find the web link at the moment but several times I have installed =
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From: John Hasty <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:50:13 +0000

As told to me by a buddy who raced in the 60's

Sent from my iPhone

Really John?? What period was that ?
  I was fine with just a lap belt for  a track day but in order to do another their telling me I need to have at least a shoulder restraint added.   Does anyone make a good quality three point system that will fit our cars?
 As for a roll cage I completely understand the need and function but I have decided not to go much farther with performance upgrades to this car. I just feel like it's too nice to chop all up and make a race car. I'd much rather buy a car that has been raced or one which is in need of restoration that I won't feel bad about chopping up a bit. Prefer GT6 but I am considering a TR6 also. Anything out there??
                      P.J.

Sent from my iPhone

Hi.

Thanks
Todd Redmond

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From: Philip Ethier <[email-masked]>
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> considering a TR6 also. Anything out there??
Track day:  Go with a GT6+.  You will have roll protection and better
aerodynamics than a roadster with a stock windscreen.

I would not go track-day with your roadster.  Put in a good lap belt and go
to an autocross instead.  In the Solo rule book from SCCA, lap belts are
required in all cars.  Non-stock upper-body restraints are not allowed.],
so you can use the stock 3-point in a TR6, but can't use a 3-point in a
TR3.

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te">On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:29 PM, McKearn McKearn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 I was fine with=C2=A0just a lap belt for=C2=A0 a =
track day=C2=A0but in order to do another their telling me I need to have a=
t least a shoulder restraint added.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Does anyone make a goo=
d quality three point system that will fit our cars?</div><div>=C2=A0As for=
 a roll cage I completely understand the need and function but I have decid=
ed not to go much farther with performance upgrades to this car. I just fee=
l like it&#39;s too nice to chop all up and make a race car. I&#39;d much r=
ather buy a car that has been raced or one which is in need of restoration =
that I won&#39;t feel bad about chopping up a bit. Prefer GT6 but I am cons=
idering a TR6 also. Anything out there??</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote>=
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Track day: =C2=A0Go with a GT6=
+.=C2=A0 You will have roll protection and better aerodynamics than a roads=
ter with a stock windscreen.</div><div><br></div><div>I would not go track-=
day with your roadster.=C2=A0 Put in a good lap belt and go to an autocross=
 instead.=C2=A0 In the Solo rule book from SCCA, lap belts are required in =
all cars.=C2=A0 Non-stock upper-body restraints are not allowed.], so you c=
an use the stock 3-point in a TR6, but can&#39;t use a 3-point in a TR3.=C2=
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From: John Styduhar <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:53:41 -0400

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Make sure the height of the crossbar is positioned to allow the correct
angle of the shoulder straps over your shoulders while seated. See a
typical diagram for shoulder harness fitment from one of the manufactures.
Also most clubs do not permit shoulder belts to be mounted at a common
point.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 5:34 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> >   I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,  the tech
>> inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I need to
>> improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I'm
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Mak=
e sure the height of the crossbar is positioned to allow the correct angle =
of the shoulder straps over your shoulders while seated. See a typical diag=
ram for shoulder harness fitment from one of the manufactures.=C2=A0 Also m=
ost clubs do not permit shoulder belts to be mounted at a common point.=C2=
=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 5:34 PM, McKearn McKearn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi.=
</div><div>=C2=A0Thanks for the replies.=C2=A0 I&#39;m thinking a four or f=
ive point restraint is what I want but getting the attachment points for th=
e shoulder belts might be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment =
bracket between the rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I wou=
ld call the rear seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind th=
e seat is that currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put behind th=
e seat. I thought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall thickness wou=
ld be more than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to it through the c=
arpet as attachment points. That way only the eye bolts and the belts will =
be visible from above. Any thoughts?</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 P.J.</div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:=
16 PM, Todd Redmond <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alfetta95@opton=
line.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for th=
e lap belt and two behind the drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for t=
he shoulder belts. Location is important. Can&#39;t be too sharp an angle. =
I&#39;ve done this in several street/track cars. They work great. The rear =
hooks on my cars were hidden under the rear seat.=C2=A0 Then buy yourself a=
 new 4 pt harness with snap in attachments. U are good to go.=C2=A0 If u wa=
nt to add the 5th hook for the anti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead=
 then get a 5 pt harness.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Todd Redmond<br>
<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi All.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0I&#39;m looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,=C2=
=A0 the tech inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I ne=
ed to improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I&#39=
;m limited. Any suggestions?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
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From: Joe Alexander <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:43:38 -0500

If you were Masten Gregory, you would just jump.

Joe Alexander
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It is unlikely that you will grab anything.  A driver I have found will
fight it to the last instant hoping to save the crash, then it is TOO LATE.
Ducking is better form.

*Never be beaten by equipment.*

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Joe Alexander <[email-masked]> wrote:

> > With no roll bar you should consider the period technique... One lap
> belt for you and another on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you
> flip you can lay down across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt and
> hold on!!!!!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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 I have found will fight it to the last instant hoping to save the crash, t=
hen it is TOO LATE. Ducking is better form.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><p><strong><font col=
or=3D"#000099">Never be beaten by equipment.</font></strong></p></div></div=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Joe Alexan=
der <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I=
f you were Masten Gregory, you would just jump.<br>
<br>
Joe Alexander<br>
645 1st Street<br>
Jesup, IA 50648<br>
The-vintage-racer.com<br>
Gasketinnovations.com<br>
Cell:=C2=A0 319.464.4711<br>
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&gt; On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:00 PM, John Hasty &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jhasty@m=
hc-law.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; With no roll bar you should consider the period technique... One lap b=
elt for you and another on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you fli=
p you can lay down across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt and hol=
d on!!!!!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:35 PM, &quot;McKearn McKearn&quot; &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi.<br>
&gt; Thanks for the replies.=C2=A0 I&#39;m thinking a four or five point re=
straint is what I want but getting the attachment points for the shoulder b=
elts might be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment bracket betw=
een the rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I would call the =
rear seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind the seat is th=
at currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put behind the seat. I th=
ought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall thickness would be more t=
han plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to it through the carpet as att=
achment points. That way only the eye bolts and the belts will be visible f=
rom above. Any thoughts?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0P.=
J.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br=
&gt; Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and two behind th=
e drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belts. Location =
is important. Can&#39;t be too sharp an angle. I&#39;ve done this in severa=
l street/track cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars were hidden=
 under the rear seat.=C2=A0 Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harness with snap =
in attachments. U are good to go.=C2=A0 If u want to add the 5th hook for t=
he anti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a 5 pt harness.<br=
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks<br>
&gt; Todd Redmond<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hi All.<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 I&#39;m looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,=C2=A0=
 the tech inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I need =
to improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I&#39;m =
limited. Any suggestions?<br>
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I did SCCA Time Trials in my C5 corvette for a few years. Since=C2=A0it's a=
 coupe a roll bar wasn't required.=20
People racing coupes without a rollbar were discouraged from using shoulder=
 harnesses because if the=20
car rolls and caves in the top your head then becomes the roll bar. They ex=
plain that with a 3 point belt the driver=20
could roll out of the shoulder belt to the inboard side. If fully restraine=
d you have nowhere to go.=20
jim g=20

----- Original Message -----

From: "Kas Kastner" <[email-masked]>=20
To: "joe" <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: "fot" <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 5:56:26 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Seat belts=20

It is unlikely that you will grab anything.=C2=A0 A driver I have found wil=
l fight it to the last instant hoping to save the crash, then it is TOO LAT=
E. Ducking is better form.=20

Never be beaten by equipment.=20

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Joe Alexander < [email-masked] > wrote:=
=20

If you were Masten Gregory, you would just jump.=20

Joe Alexander=20
645 1st Street=20
Jesup, IA 50648=20
The-vintage-racer.com=20
Gasketinnovations.com=20
Cell:=C2=A0 319.464.4711=20

> On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:00 PM, John Hasty < [email-masked] > wrote:=20
>=20
> With no roll bar you should consider the period technique... One lap belt=
 for you and another on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you flip y=
ou can lay down across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt and hold o=
n!!!!!=20
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone=20
>=20
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:35 PM, "McKearn McKearn" < [email-masked] <mail=
to: [email-masked] >> wrote:=20
>=20
> Hi.=20
> Thanks for the replies.=C2=A0 I'm thinking a four or five point restraint=
 is what I want but getting the attachment points for the shoulder belts mi=
ght be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment bracket between the=
 rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I would call the rear se=
at top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind the seat is that curr=
ently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put behind the seat. I thought 1=
.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall thickness would be more than ple=
nty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to it through the carpet as attachment=
 points. That way only the eye bolts and the belts will be visible from abo=
ve. Any thoughts?=20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0P.J.=
=20
>=20
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond < [email-masked] =
> Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and two behind the d=
rivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belts. Location is =
important. Can't be too sharp an angle. I've done this in several street/tr=
ack cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars were hidden under the =
rear seat.=C2=A0 Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harness with snap in attachme=
nts. U are good to go.=C2=A0 If u want to add the 5th hook for the anti sub=
marine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a 5 pt harness.=20
>=20
> Thanks=20
> Todd Redmond=20
>=20
>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn < [email-masked] <mail=
to: [email-masked] >> wrote:=20
>>=20
>> Hi All.=20
>>=C2=A0 I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,=C2=A0 the tech =
inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I need to improve=
) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I'm limited. Any s=
uggestions?=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">I did SCCA Time Trials in my C5 corvet=
te for a few years. Since&nbsp;it's a coupe a roll bar wasn't required. <BR=
>People racing coupes without a rollbar were discouraged from using shoulde=
r harnesses because if the </DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">car rolls and caves in the top your head t=
hen becomes the roll bar. They explain that with a 3 point belt the driver<=
/DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">could roll out of the shoulder belt to the=
 inboard side. If fully restrained you have nowhere to go.</DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">jim g</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetic=
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ata-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text=
-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt=
;"><B>From: </B>"Kas Kastner" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<BR><B>To: </B>"j=
oe" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<BR><B>Cc: </B>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<B=
R><B>Sent: </B>Sunday, August 16, 2015 5:56:26 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [F=
ot] Seat belts<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>It is unlikely that you will grab anything.&nbsp; A driver I=
 have found will fight it to the last instant hoping to save the crash, the=
n it is TOO LATE. Ducking is better form.</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR clear=3Dall>
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<P><STRONG><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #000099" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000099;=
" color=3D"#000099">Never be beaten by equipment.</SPAN></STRONG></P></DIV>=
</DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Joe Alexander <S=
PAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank data-mc=
e-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8=
ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">If you were Masten Gre=
gory, you would just jump.<BR><BR>Joe Alexander<BR>645 1st Street<BR>Jesup,=
 IA 50648<BR>The-vintage-racer.com<BR>Gasketinnovations.com<BR>Cell:&nbsp; =
319.464.4711<BR><BR>&gt; On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:00 PM, John Hasty &lt;<A hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:jha=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; With no =
roll bar you should consider the period technique... One lap belt for you a=
nd another on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you flip you can lay=
 down across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt and hold on!!!!!<BR>=
&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent from my iPhone<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:35 P=
M, "McKearn McKearn" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_bl=
ank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&lt;m=
ailto:<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank data-mce-href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt=
;<BR>&gt; Hi.<BR>&gt; Thanks for the replies.&nbsp; I'm thinking a four or =
five point restraint is what I want but getting the attachment points for t=
he shoulder belts might be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment=
 bracket between the rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I wo=
uld call the rear seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind t=
he seat is that currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put behind t=
he seat. I thought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall thickness wo=
uld be more than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to it through the =
carpet as attachment points. That way only the eye bolts and the belts will=
 be visible from above. Any thoughts?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;P.J.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On Fri, Aug 14,=
 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">alfett=
[email-masked]</A>&lt;mailto:<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">alfetta95@=
optonline.net</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Tw=
o for the lap belt and two behind the drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhe=
ad for the shoulder belts. Location is important. Can't be too sharp an ang=
le. I've done this in several street/track cars. They work great. The rear =
hooks on my cars were hidden under the rear seat.&nbsp; Then buy yourself a=
 new 4 pt harness with snap in attachments. U are good to go.&nbsp; If u wa=
nt to add the 5th hook for the anti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead=
 then get a 5 pt harness.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Thanks<BR>&gt; Todd Redmond<BR>&g=
t;<BR>&gt;&gt; On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn &lt;<A href=3D=
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&nbsp; I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,&nbsp; the tech in=
spector let it slide but told me for the next track day I need to improve) =
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gestions?<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 12:15:22 -0400

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P.J.,
        I have non-retractable 3 point seatbelts in my street GT6.  I
purchased them from TRF, I think they are Beam's brand.

I share the same feelings as others about NOT using 4/5/6 point harnesses
in a street car without a roll cage.  I'm assuming the stock belts on the
68 are lap belt only?  3 point belts will be a big safety improvement over
that.

Jason

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<div dir=3D"ltr">P.J.,<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I have non-retractab=
le 3 point seatbelts in my street GT6.=C2=A0 I purchased them from TRF, I t=
hink they are Beam&#39;s brand. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I share the=
 same feelings as others about NOT using 4/5/6 point harnesses in a street =
car without a roll cage.=C2=A0 I&#39;m assuming the stock belts on the 68 a=
re lap belt only? =C2=A03 point belts will be a big safety improvement over=
 that.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jason</div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:=
23 PM, McKearn McKearn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gma=
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c solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi All.</div><div>=C2=A0 I&=
#39;m looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6, =C2=A0the tech inspect=
or let it slide but told me for the next track day=C2=A0I need to improve) =
but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar=C2=A0I&#39;m limited=
. Any suggestions?</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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Hi all.
  Thanks for all the input. After hearing the reasoning I can definitely
see why 4,5,6 point restraint would be bad without a rollbar. Three point
it is then for now.
                                           Thanks again.  P.J.

>> it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I'm limited. Any suggestions?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi all.</div><div>=C2=A0 Thanks for all the input. Af=
ter hearing the reasoning I can definitely see why 4,5,6 point restraint wo=
uld be bad without a rollbar. Three point it is then for now.=C2=A0 </div><=
div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 a=
t 11:15 AM, Jason Sukey <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jsukey@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
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olid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">P.J.,<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 I have non-retractable 3 point seatbelts in my street GT6.=C2=A0 I purc=
hased them from TRF, I think they are Beam&#39;s brand. =C2=A0</div><div><b=
r></div><div>I share the same feelings as others about NOT using 4/5/6 poin=
t harnesses in a street car without a roll cage.=C2=A0 I&#39;m assuming the=
 stock belts on the 68 are lap belt only? =C2=A03 point belts will be a big=
 safety improvement over that.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jaso=
n</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On F=
ri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
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width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi All.</div><div>=
=C2=A0 I&#39;m looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6, =C2=A0the tec=
h inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day=C2=A0I need to =
improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar=C2=A0I&#39;=
m limited. Any suggestions?</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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If anybody is looking for replacement 3 point seat belts there is a =
military surplus vendor on ebay selling off good ones cheap.

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I just put a pair in my street spitfire.    2 + shipping for under $35.  =
US amde and good quality.  What more could you want?

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Hi all.

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see why 4,5,6 point restraint would be bad without a rollbar. Three =
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P.J.,

        I have non-retractable 3 point seatbelts in my street GT6.  I =
purchased them from TRF, I think they are Beam's brand. =20

=20

I share the same feelings as others about NOT using 4/5/6 point =
harnesses in a street car without a roll cage.  I'm assuming the stock =
belts on the 68 are lap belt only?  3 point belts will be a big safety =
improvement over that.

=20

=20

Jason

=20

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

Hi All.

  I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,  the tech inspector =
let it slide but told me for the next track day I need to improve) but =
with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I'm limited. Any =
suggestions?

                         Thanks. P.J.

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D'>Robert MacKenzie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>Spitfire Garage<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"spitfire garage logo - =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>McKearn =
McKearn<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 17, 2015 11:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Jason Sukey<br><b>Cc:</b> FOT list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Seat =
belts<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi =
all.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; Thanks for all =
the input. After hearing the reasoning I can definitely see why 4,5,6 =
point restraint would be bad without a rollbar. Three point it is then =
for now.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks again.&nbsp; =
P.J.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, =
Aug 17, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jason Sukey &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>P.J.,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I have non-retractable 3 point seatbelts in my =
street GT6.&nbsp; I purchased them from TRF, I think they are Beam's =
brand. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
share the same feelings as others about NOT using 4/5/6 point harnesses =
in a street car without a roll cage.&nbsp; I'm assuming the stock belts =
on the 68 are lap belt only? &nbsp;3 point belts will be a big safety =
improvement over that.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jason<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Fri, =
Aug 14, 2015 at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi =
All.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; I'm looking to =
upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6, &nbsp;the tech inspector let it =
slide but told me for the next track day&nbsp;I need to improve) but =
with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar&nbsp;I'm limited. Any =
suggestions?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks. P.J.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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