Subject: [Fot] crankcase vent catch can

From: Brian Schirano <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:23:16 +0000 (UTC)

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OK FOT mates
I'm almost afraid to ask.
Was draining the crankcase vent catch can last night on the GT6, has one ev=
ent worth of oil in it (MOSPORT). wasn't very smart about draining it, wasn=
't expecting anything to speak of so just put a rag under it. Well, not too=
 good at judging an oil mess on the floor, but guess it looks like maybe a =
good cup? This is more than I have had before, but this is a new catch can.
I have the vent from the valve cover and off a take off plate mounted from =
where the mechanical fuel pump both plumbed into the catch can.
=C2=A0This seemed like a lot, and was more than typical, but I was running =
well and strong, hotter with new roller rockers (blah blah, sis boom bah)
Comments? Symptom of?

Thanks - will be at PittRace in about 24hrs, but do't want a major fail fro=
m ignorance/inexperiance
Brian=C2=A026A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0
[email-masked]
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OT mates</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3892" dir=3D"ltr=
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><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3892" dir=3D"ltr"><=
span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_4031">Was draining the crankcase vent=
 catch can last night on the GT6, has one event worth of oil in it (MOSPORT=
). wasn't very smart about draining it, wasn't expecting anything to speak =
of so just put a rag under it. Well, not too good at judging an oil mess on=
 the floor, but guess it looks like maybe a good cup? This is more than I h=
ave had before, but this is a new catch can.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1436452766914_3892" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3892" dir=3D"ltr">I have the vent from the valve co=
ver and off a take off plate mounted from where the mechanical fuel pump bo=
th plumbed into the catch can.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3=
892" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14364527669=
14_3892" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_4194">&nbsp;Thi=
s seemed like a lot, and was more than typical, but I was running well and =
strong, hotter with new roller rockers (blah blah, sis boom bah)</span></di=
v><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3892" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span>=
</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3892" dir=3D"ltr">Comments? Sym=
ptom of?<span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3892" =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3892" dir=3D"lt=
r">Thanks - will be at PittRace in about 24hrs, but do't want a major fail =
from ignorance/inexperiance</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3892=
" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3892" dir=3D"=
ltr">Brian</div><div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3871">&nbs=
p;</div><div class=3D"signature" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3949"><di=
v id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436452766914_3948">26A GT6+, 28 TR6</div>Brian Schira=
no<br>585-305-0349 Cell&nbsp;<br>[email-masked]</div></div></body></ht=
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From: "Jim Gray" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 23:58:08 -0600

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The only time I've ever had milky oil in the catch tank is when I had a head
gasket on it's way out.

jim

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From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:48 AM
To: Yellow04
Cc: FOT List Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] crankcase vent catch can

Hmm. Interesting.

I'm actually in the process of trying to give the Zippy Car more venting at
the top of the rockers and was going to copy the way I have it on the yellow
car.

I have a sealed tube that exits at the front of the valve cover and wraps
around the back to the other side where there is a tank (with a foam filter
inside) mounted to the where the stock fuel pump would go.

So I supposed it flowed towards below the back end of the camshaft 

It never occurred to me that the oil could get wet or milky.

This has seemed to work well???

I can't say I have seen any evidence of moisture or poor oil color inside
the tank.  .

Your comments have me now wondering if there may be a better way.

I'm willing to try something different so I would be interest in more info
on the topic of valve cover venting on the 6 Cylinder.

Thanks!

Jason Ostrowski

Friendly Ghost Racing

1969 Triumph GT6+ Racecars

 

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Yellow04 <[email-masked]> wrote:

I'm from the school of thought that if oil gets blown out of the engine,
it's milky, full of condensation, and has no business going back into my
motor! If you are putting enough oil on the catch tank that you NEED to
drain it back into the motor, something is not right.

Brian, one cup of oil in the catch tank after running a Mosport weekend is
not a lot of oil. Think of the amount of time you had that throttle at WFO
over the course of the weekend... That's the beauty of Mosport!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Ostrowski
> Subject: Re: [Fot] crankcase vent catch can
>
> Brian,
> I have my vent catch tank set-up designed to allow the "vented oil" from
the
> catch can to gravity feed back down into the main oil galley. There are a
few
> different ways to do that and it works good. It makes the venting more
> effective due to the circular flow and the oil is not lost, never needs to
be
> drained and stays in the motor to be used.
> Good luck.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The only time I&#8217;ve ever had =
milky oil in
the catch tank is when I had a head gasket on it&#8217;s way =
out.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Fot
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b><span =
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Of </span></b>Jason Ostrowski<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 10, =
2015 10:48
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Yellow04<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> FOT List Triumph<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] =
crankcase vent
catch can</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Hmm. Interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I'm actually in the process of trying to give the Zippy Car more
venting at the top of the rockers&nbsp;and was going to copy the way I =
have it
on the yellow car.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I have a sealed tube that exits at the front of the valve cover =
and
wraps around the back to the other side where there is a tank (with a =
foam
filter inside)&nbsp;mounted to the where the stock fuel pump would =
go.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>So&nbsp;I supposed&nbsp;it&nbsp;flowed towards below the back =
end of
the camshaft&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>It never occurred to me that the oil could get wet or =
milky.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>This has seemed to work well???<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I can't say I have&nbsp;seen any evidence of moisture or poor =
oil color
inside the tank. &nbsp;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Your comments have me now wondering if there may be a better =
way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I'm willing to try something different so I would be interest in =
more
info on the topic of valve cover venting on the 6 =
Cylinder.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Jason Ostrowski<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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12.0pt'>Friendly Ghost Racing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Yellow04 &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I'm from the =
school of
thought that if oil gets blown out of the engine, it's milky, full of
condensation, and has no business going back into my motor! If you are =
putting
enough oil on the catch tank that you NEED to drain it back into the =
motor,
something is not right.<br>
<br>
Brian, one cup of oil in the catch tank after running a Mosport weekend =
is not
a lot of oil. Think of the amount of time you had that throttle at WFO =
over the
course of the weekend... That's the beauty of Mosport!<br>
<br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; -----Original Message-----</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; From: Jason Ostrowski</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; Subject: Re: [Fot] crankcase vent catch =
can</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt;</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; Brian,</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; I have my vent catch tank set-up designed to =
allow
the &quot;vented oil&quot; from the</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; catch can to gravity feed back down into the =
main oil
galley. There are a few</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; different ways to do that and it works good. =
It makes
the venting more</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; effective due to the circular flow and the =
oil is not
lost, never needs to be</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; drained and stays in the motor to be =
used.</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; Good luck.</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; Jason Ostrowski</span><br>
<span class=3Dimhoenzb>&gt; Friendly Ghost Racing</span><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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