Subject: Re: [Fot] Radiator

From: Greg And Alison Blake <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 22:18:49 -0500

Go to a cross flow design (tanks on each side of rad) and use an expansion tank in the system. I'd route water out of the heater port in the top back of the head to the expansion tank then from bottom of that tank to the heater return on the back of the water pump. I've done this on a endurance race TR 6 and ran great temps all weekend in the Texas heat. No fan required. 

Email me for pics. 

> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:50 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Hi All.
>  I just finished an awesome track day at Blackhawk with my gt6 and almost everything worked great. It was a nice day of about 78 degrees and low humidity but I couldn't keep the car from getting hot. Not sure exactly how hot but I can tell you that I have a dual oil pressure / water temp gauge and the water temp was all the way up to the 80 psi mark on the oil pressure gauge. Also boiled out of my overflow tank and made a fine mess. I know this has been a subject of debate with these cars in the past and I have actually lobbied in favor of the stock radiators but now I just can't think of any way to keep it.  Just to head off questions regarding cooling system condition. I believe everything is in fine shape. New coolant. 195 thermostat. Hoses are fine. Good fitting shroud with electric fan and a 1 liter overflow tank. Radiator cap  is 7 lbs. The radiator was cleaned and tested by a radiator shop and the guy told me it was in excellent condition.  So I guess I'm looking for an aluminum replacement radiator .I think I want a shorter. wider radiator. Any suggestions?
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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 08:56:22 -0400

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Is it overheating when you are running on the track, or just waiting to =
get on the track/when you get off and come to a halt?
I have an aluminum radiator, so I can't say for sure that a stock one =
would work in the conditions you describe, but I'm a little surprised it =
didn't, if well ducted. =20
You might take out the thermostat and put it in boiling water, see if it =
opens fully.
 =20
If you want to see photos of my short, wide radiator, go to  =
http://www.britishracecar.com/ScottJanzen-Triumph-GT6.htm  .  This was =
custom made for the car, less than $500, I think. I can get you some =
better photos of mounting and ducting. It's actually more cooling than =
is needed, keeps temp at 180 on the hottest days even with the smallest =
restrictor I can find in place of the thermostat.

I think most GT6 racers are running a stock shape aluminum rad with =
success - I just went this way because that was the shape/size of the =
rad in my car when I bought it.

On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:50 PM, McKearn McKearn wrote:

Hi All.
 I just finished an awesome track day at Blackhawk with my gt6 and =
almost everything worked great. It was a nice day of about 78 degrees =
and low humidity but I couldn't keep the car from getting hot. Not sure =
exactly how hot but I can tell you that I have a dual oil pressure / =
water temp gauge and the water temp was all the way up to the 80 psi =
mark on the oil pressure gauge. Also boiled out of my overflow tank and =
made a fine mess. I know this has been a subject of debate with these =
cars in the past and I have actually lobbied in favor of the stock =
radiators but now I just can't think of any way to keep it.  Just to =
head off questions regarding cooling system condition. I believe =
everything is in fine shape. New coolant. 195 thermostat. Hoses are =
fine. Good fitting shroud with electric fan and a 1 liter overflow tank. =
Radiator cap  is 7 lbs. The radiator was cleaned and tested by a =
radiator shop and the guy told me it was in excellent condition.  So I =
guess I'm looking for an aluminum replacement radiator .I think I want a =
shorter. wider radiator. Any suggestions?
           Thanks.  P.J.
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Is it =
overheating when you are running on the track, or just waiting to get on =
the track/when you get off and come to a halt?<div>I have an aluminum =
radiator, so I can't say for sure that a stock one would work in the =
conditions you describe, but I'm a little surprised it didn't, if well =
ducted. &nbsp;</div><div>You might take out the thermostat and put it in =
boiling water, see if it opens =
fully.</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>If you want to see photos of my =
short, wide radiator, go to &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.britishracecar.com/ScottJanzen-Triumph-GT6.htm">http://=
www.britishracecar.com/ScottJanzen-Triumph-GT6.htm</a> &nbsp;. =
&nbsp;This was custom made for the car, less than $500, I think. I can =
get you some better photos of mounting and ducting. It's actually more =
cooling than is needed, keeps temp at 180 on the hottest days even with =
the smallest restrictor I can find in place of the =
thermostat.</div><div><br></div><div>I think most GT6 racers are running =
a stock shape aluminum rad with success - I just went this way because =
that was the shape/size of the rad in my car when I bought =
it.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div><div>On Jul 17, 2015, at =
10:50 PM, McKearn McKearn wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi =
All.</div><div>&nbsp;I just finished an awesome track day at Blackhawk =
with my gt6 and almost everything worked great. It was a nice day of =
about&nbsp;78 degrees and low humidity but I couldn't keep the car from =
getting hot. Not sure exactly how hot but I can tell you that I have a =
dual oil pressure&nbsp;/ water temp gauge and the water temp was all the =
way up to the&nbsp;80 psi mark on the oil pressure gauge. Also boiled =
out of my overflow tank and made a fine mess. I know this has been a =
subject of debate with these cars in the past and I have actually =
lobbied in favor of the stock radiators but now I just can't think of =
any way to keep it.&nbsp; Just to head off questions regarding cooling =
system condition. I believe everything is in fine shape. New coolant. =
195 thermostat. Hoses are fine. Good fitting shroud with electric fan =
and a 1 liter overflow tank. Radiator cap &nbsp;is 7 lbs. The radiator =
was cleaned and tested by a radiator shop and the guy told me it was in =
excellent condition.&nbsp; So I guess I'm looking for an aluminum =
replacement radiator .I think I want a shorter. wider radiator.&nbsp;Any =
suggestions?</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; Thanks.&nbsp; P.J.</div></div>
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From: Edward Dunn <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 18:28:33 -0700

VW Scirroco radiator works quite well in the GT6

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:19 PM
To: McKearn McKearn
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Fot] Radiator

Email me for pics.

>  I just finished an awesome track day at Blackhawk with my gt6 and almost everything worked great. It was a nice day of about 78 degrees and low humidity but I couldn't keep the car from getting hot. Not sure exactly how hot but I can tell you that I have a dual oil pressure / water temp gauge and the water temp was all the way up to the 80 psi mark on the oil pressure gauge. Also boiled out of my overflow tank and made a fine mess. I know this has been a subject of debate with these cars in the past and I have actually lobbied in favor of the stock radiators but now I just can't think of any way to keep it.  Just to head off questions regarding cooling system condition. I believe everything is in fine shape. New coolant. 195 thermostat. Hoses are fine. Good fitting shroud with electric fan and a 1 liter overflow tank. Radiator cap  is 7 lbs. The radiator was cleaned and tested by a radiator shop and the guy told me it was in excellent condition.  So I guess I'm looking for an alum
 inum replacement radiator .I think I want a shorter. wider radiator. Any suggestions?

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 22:49:44 -0400

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On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Edward Dunn <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Go to a cross flow design (tanks on each side of rad) and use an expansion
> tank in the system. I'd route water out of the heater port in the top back
> of the head to the expansion tank then from bottom of that tank to the
> heater return on the back of the water pump. I've done this on a endurance
> race TR 6 and ran great temps all weekend in the Texas heat. No fan
> required.
>
> Email me for pics.
>
>
>
> >  I just finished an awesome track day at Blackhawk with my gt6 and
> almost everything worked great. It was a nice day of about 78 degrees and
> low humidity but I couldn't keep the car from getting hot. Not sure exactly
> how hot but I can tell you that I have a dual oil pressure / water temp
> gauge and the water temp was all the way up to the 80 psi mark on the oil
> pressure gauge. Also boiled out of my overflow tank and made a fine mess. I
> know this has been a subject of debate with these cars in the past and I
> have actually lobbied in favor of the stock radiators but now I just can't
> think of any way to keep it.  Just to head off questions regarding cooling
> system condition. I believe everything is in fine shape. New coolant. 195
> thermostat. Hoses are fine. Good fitting shroud with electric fan and a 1
> liter overflow tank. Radiator cap  is 7 lbs. The radiator was cleaned and
> tested by a radiator shop and the guy told me it was in excellent
> condition.  So I guess I'm looking for an alum
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Edward Dunn=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">VW Scirroco radiator works quite well in the GT6<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Fot [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fot-bounces=
@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake<br>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:19 PM<br>
To: McKearn McKearn<br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Radiator<br>
<br>
Go to a cross flow design (tanks on each side of rad) and use an expansion =
tank in the system. I&#39;d route water out of the heater port in the top b=
ack of the head to the expansion tank then from bottom of that tank to the =
heater return on the back of the water pump. I&#39;ve done this on a endura=
nce race TR 6 and ran great temps all weekend in the Texas heat. No fan req=
uired.<br>
<br>
Email me for pics.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:50 PM, McKearn McKearn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mck=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi All.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 I just finished an awesome track day at Blackhawk with my gt6 an=
d almost everything worked great. It was a nice day of about 78 degrees and=
 low humidity but I couldn&#39;t keep the car from getting hot. Not sure ex=
actly how hot but I can tell you that I have a dual oil pressure / water te=
mp gauge and the water temp was all the way up to the 80 psi mark on the oi=
l pressure gauge. Also boiled out of my overflow tank and made a fine mess.=
 I know this has been a subject of debate with these cars in the past and I=
 have actually lobbied in favor of the stock radiators but now I just can&#=
39;t think of any way to keep it.=C2=A0 Just to head off questions regardin=
g cooling system condition. I believe everything is in fine shape. New cool=
ant. 195 thermostat. Hoses are fine. Good fitting shroud with electric fan =
and a 1 liter overflow tank. Radiator cap=C2=A0 is 7 lbs. The radiator was =
cleaned and tested by a radiator shop and the guy told me it was in excelle=
nt condition.=C2=A0 So I guess I&#39;m looking for an alum<br>
=C2=A0inum replacement radiator .I think I want a shorter. wider radiator. =
Any suggestions?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks.=C2=A0 P.J.<br>
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From: McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 21:51:04 -0500

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Thanks Edward.
      Do you happen to know what year Scirroco radiator or if they are all
the same?
                                 Thanks.  P.J.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks Edward.=C2=A0 </div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 Do you happen to know what year Scirroco radiator or if they are =
all the same?</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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=C2=A0 P.J.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Edward Dunn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">edunn@transfueler.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">VW Scirroco rad=
iator works quite well in the GT6<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Fot [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fot-bounces=
@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake<br>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:19 PM<br>
To: McKearn McKearn<br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Radiator<br>
<br>
Go to a cross flow design (tanks on each side of rad) and use an expansion =
tank in the system. I&#39;d route water out of the heater port in the top b=
ack of the head to the expansion tank then from bottom of that tank to the =
heater return on the back of the water pump. I&#39;ve done this on a endura=
nce race TR 6 and ran great temps all weekend in the Texas heat. No fan req=
uired.<br>
<br>
Email me for pics.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:50 PM, McKearn McKearn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mck=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi All.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 I just finished an awesome track day at Blackhawk with my gt6 an=
d almost everything worked great. It was a nice day of about 78 degrees and=
 low humidity but I couldn&#39;t keep the car from getting hot. Not sure ex=
actly how hot but I can tell you that I have a dual oil pressure / water te=
mp gauge and the water temp was all the way up to the 80 psi mark on the oi=
l pressure gauge. Also boiled out of my overflow tank and made a fine mess.=
 I know this has been a subject of debate with these cars in the past and I=
 have actually lobbied in favor of the stock radiators but now I just can&#=
39;t think of any way to keep it.=C2=A0 Just to head off questions regardin=
g cooling system condition. I believe everything is in fine shape. New cool=
ant. 195 thermostat. Hoses are fine. Good fitting shroud with electric fan =
and a 1 liter overflow tank. Radiator cap=C2=A0 is 7 lbs. The radiator was =
cleaned and tested by a radiator shop and the guy told me it was in excelle=
nt condition.=C2=A0 So I guess I&#39;m looking for an alum<br>
=C2=A0inum replacement radiator .I think I want a shorter. wider radiator. =
Any suggestions?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks.=C2=A0 P.J.<br>
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