Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event

From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 12:16:22 +0000 (UTC)

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I have a great memory of Janet Guthrie.=C2=A0 One of the first races I ever=
 attended was the "Glen 500" at Watkins Glen.=C2=A0 It was The Glen's attem=
pt at something like the Trans Am, before the Trans Am existed.=C2=A0 They =
lumped all AP, BP, CP and DP cars together in one race, called the Glen 500=
.=C2=A0 It was held in conjunction with an SCCA National race weekend.=C2=
=A0 Bob Tullius was there in a TR-4, and Janet Guthrie was driving a Jag XK=
-140.
I worked at the local radio station in Corning during high school, so I was=
 able to get pit passes.=C2=A0 While I was in the pits, watching the action=
, Janet Guthrie pulled into the pits.=C2=A0 This was about half way through=
 the race (or more).=C2=A0 One of the crew ran over to the car, and I could=
 hear Janet say, "we don't have any oil pressure", to which the crew man re=
sponded, "the oil pressure gauge hasn't worked all day, get back out there!=
"
I thought this was funny, but no dis-respect to Janet.=C2=A0 She was a real=
 pioneer in our sport.=C2=A0 I still have the race program from that race i=
n 1964, and in addition to Janet Guthrie, there were some big names in that=
 race.=C2=A0 Bob Nagel and Ed Lowther in an AC Cobra, Don Yenko and Dick Th=
ompson in a Corvette, Bob Grossman in a Corvette, and Hal Keck in a Cobra.=
=C2=A0 Bob Tullius did well in the TR-4.=C2=A0 About 2/3 of the way through=
 the race, he was running in the top 3 or 4 with the Corvettes and Cobras, =
when his engine gave out.=C2=A0 They had replaced the engine the night befo=
re the race, so he was running a brand new engine in the race, with no brea=
k in time.=C2=A0 I'm going from memory here, and this was over 50 years ago=
, but I think I am generally correct on this.=C2=A0 Obviously, it had a big=
 impact on me.
By the way, one more note.=C2=A0 FOT's own Dick Stockton was in a race earl=
ier in the day for C, D, E and F Modified, called the "Glen Trophy".=C2=A0 =
Dick drove a Ferrari in F Modified.=C2=A0 Interesting what you can find in =
these old race programs.

Jack
      From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <[email-masked]>
 To: michael kowalski <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event
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I'll be damned. =C2=A0That calendar hangs on the wall behind my desk. =C2=
=A0I flipped the new picture up this morning, but did not notice that disti=
nction. =C2=A0I'll look harder tomorrow morning.
Bill Dentinger

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 1, 2015, at 6:23 PM, michael kowalski via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

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Has anybody noted that the picture for April in the SCCA calender is ......=
.Janet Guthrie?
=20
 mike kowalski,
 old FP spit
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=20
 On 3/31/2015 7:55 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote:
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 =C2=A0     OBTW: if you follow NASCAR, Danica(n't) just tied another woman=
's record of 5 top 10 finishes. Took her about 120 races to do it with enor=
mous money behind her.   The other woman? Janet Guthrie, who did it in 33 r=
aces, without nearly the resources or quality of equipment. Also Ms Guthrie=
 oozes charm, wit, character,=C2=A0class, and personality.    I'm not doing=
 INDY this year, but will be there, maybe helping an old friend with his ca=
rs. See you there.   Bill =C2=A0 Bill... =C2=A0 I could not agree more that=
 JANET GUTHRIE is one Class Act!=C2=A0 Had she had decent equipment back in=
 the day, she'd have been a World Beater. =C2=A0 Have you read her book?=C2=
=A0 I did and it's a good one.=C2=A0 Its name escapes me right now. =C2=A0 =
She actually attended one of our Wine & Cheese Parties at Road America one =
time, which=C2=A0was a special treat for us. =C2=A0 Bill Dentinger    =20
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3762"><span=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5109">I have a great memory of Janet Guth=
rie.&nbsp; One of the first races I ever attended was the "Glen 500" at Wat=
kins Glen.&nbsp; It was The Glen's attempt at something like the Trans Am, =
before the Trans Am existed.&nbsp; They lumped all AP, BP, CP and DP cars t=
ogether in one race, called the Glen 500.&nbsp; It was held in conjunction =
with an SCCA National race weekend.&nbsp; Bob Tullius was there in a TR-4, =
and Janet Guthrie was driving a Jag XK-140.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1427975414233_5108" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4272" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142797541=
4233_4273">I worked at the local radio station in Corning during high schoo=
l, so I was able to get pit passes.&nbsp; While I was in the pits, watching=
 the action, Janet Guthrie pulled into the pits.&nbsp; This was about half =
way through the race (or more).&nbsp; One of the crew ran over to the car, =
and I could hear Janet say, "we don't have any oil pressure", to which the =
crew man responded, "the oil pressure gauge hasn't worked all day, get back=
 out there!"</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4496" dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273"></span></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5046" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
427975414233_4273">I thought this was funny, but no dis-respect to Janet.&n=
bsp; She was a real pioneer in our sport.&nbsp; I still have the race progr=
am from that race in 1964, and in addition to Janet Guthrie, there were som=
e big names in that race.&nbsp; Bob Nagel and Ed Lowther in an AC Cobra, Do=
n Yenko and Dick Thompson in a Corvette, Bob Grossman in a Corvette, and Ha=
l Keck in a Cobra.&nbsp; Bob Tullius did well in the TR-4.&nbsp; About 2/3 =
of the way through the race, he was running in the top 3 or 4 with the Corv=
ettes and Cobras, when his engine gave out.&nbsp; They had replaced the eng=
ine the night before the race, so he was running a brand new engine in the =
race, with no break in time.&nbsp; I'm going from memory here, and this was=
 over 50 years ago, but I think I am generally correct on this.&nbsp; Obvio=
usly, it had a big impact on me.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142797=
5414233_5299" dir=3D"ltr"><br><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273">=
</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5300" dir=3D"ltr"><span =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273">By the way, one more note.&nbsp; FOT=
's own Dick Stockton was in a race earlier in the day for C, D, E and F Mod=
ified, called the "Glen Trophy".&nbsp; Dick drove a Ferrari in F Modified.&=
nbsp; Interesting what you can find in these old race programs.<br></span><=
/div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5180" dir=3D"ltr"><br><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273"></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
427975414233_5181" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273"=
>Jack</span></div><br>  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3765" style=
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ande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_=
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, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142=
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ze=3D"1">  <font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3766" face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Bill Dentinge=
r via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bol=
d;">To:</span></b> michael kowalski &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b><s=
pan style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "[email-masked]" &lt;fo=
[email-masked]&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span=
></b> Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:06 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: b=
old;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event<br> </=
font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3767" class=3D"y_msg_con=
tainer"><br><div id=3D"yiv7704041733"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233=
_3769"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3768">I'll be damned. &nbsp;Th=
at calendar hangs on the wall behind my desk. &nbsp;I flipped the new pictu=
re up this morning, but did not notice that distinction. &nbsp;I'll look ha=
rder tomorrow morning.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3770"><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3771">Bill Dent=
inger</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3772"><br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><=
br></div><div class=3D"yiv7704041733yqt6472484892" id=3D"yiv7704041733yqt43=
274"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5594"><br clear=3D"none">On Apr =
1, 2015, at 6:23 PM, michael kowalski via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
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    </div></blockquote></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7704041733yqt64724=
84892" id=3D"yiv7704041733yqt54517"><div class=3D"yiv7704041733moz-cite-pre=
fix">Has anybody noted that the picture for
      April in the SCCA calender is .......Janet Guthrie?<br clear=3D"none"=
      <br clear=3D"none">
      mike kowalski,<br clear=3D"none">
      old FP spit<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      On 3/31/2015 7:55 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none"=
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"><font face=3D"arial" color=3D"black" size=3D"=
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        </font><div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10=
pt;">
          <div id=3D"yiv7704041733AOLMsgPart_1.2_4aeb5611-1779-4de0-b953-e3=
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              <div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">OBTW: if you follow
                  NASCAR, Danica(n't) just tied another woman's record
                  of 5 top 10 finishes. Took her about 120 races to do
                  it with enormous money behind her.</font> </div>
              <div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">The other woman? Janet
                  Guthrie, who did it in 33 races, without nearly the
                  resources or quality of equipment. Also Ms Guthrie
                  oozes charm, wit, character,&nbsp;class, and personality.=
 </font>
              </div>
              <div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I'm not doing INDY this
                  year, but will be there, maybe helping an old friend
                  with his cars. See you there.</font> </div>
              <div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Bill</font></div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><font color=3D"black">Bill...</font></div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><font color=3D"black">I could not agree more that <stron=
g>JANET
                    GUTHRIE</strong> is one Class Act!&nbsp; Had she had
                  decent equipment back in the day, she'd have been a
                  World Beater.</font></div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><font color=3D"black">Have you read her book?&nbsp; I di=
d
                  and it's a good one.&nbsp; Its name escapes me right now.=
</font></div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><font color=3D"black">She actually attended one of our
                  Wine &amp; Cheese Parties at Road America one time,
                  which&nbsp;was a special treat for us.</font></div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><font color=3D"black">Bill Dentinger</font></div>
              <div><font color=3D"black"> </font></div>
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From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 19:19:19 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi Bill.=C2=A0 Might have been Brian Furstenau. He was the engineering brai=
ns behind the group, but always in the background.=C2=A0 Died a number of y=
ears ago.=C2=A0 In the early 60's he drove a TR-3 (number 33, before Bob Sh=
arp got that number), while Tullius drove the TR-4 (number 44).=C2=A0 I'm t=
hinking that was when the TR-3 and TR-4 were in the same class, briefly, be=
fore the TR-4 got moved up.=C2=A0 John Kelly also drove with the group, but=
 that doesn't look like him in the picture.=C2=A0 There was also a guy from=
 Kansas (I think his name was Mike Garrett?) who raced with the group.=C2=
=A0 That might have been him in the picture.
Also, I was looking through one of my Carroll Shelby books ("Shelby's Wildl=
ife"), and see reference once again to FOTer Dick Stockton competing in the=
 1970 ARRC in a BP 289 Cobra.=C2=A0 Dick did some dyno work and flow bench =
work for me back in the early 80's.=C2=A0 Good guy!
Jack

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 To: [email-masked]=20
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From: Jack Wheeler <[email-masked]>
To: Bill Dentinger <[email-masked]>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event
   I have a great memory of Janet Guthrie.=C2=A0 One of the first races I e=
ver attended was the "Glen 500" at Watkins Glen.=C2=A0 It was The Glen's at=
tempt at something like the Trans Am, before the Trans Am existed.=C2=A0 Th=
ey lumped all AP, BP, CP and DP cars together in one race, called the Glen =
500.=C2=A0 It was held in conjunction with an SCCA National race weekend.=
=C2=A0 Bob Tullius was there in a TR-4, and Janet Guthrie was driving a Jag=
 XK-140.=C2=A0=C2=A0   I worked at the local radio station in Corning durin=
g high school, so I was able to get pit passes.=C2=A0 While I was in the pi=
ts, watching the action, Janet Guthrie pulled into the pits.=C2=A0 This was=
 about half way through the race (or more).=C2=A0 One of the crew ran over =
to the car, and I could hear Janet say, "we don't have any oil pressure", t=
o which the crew man responded, "the oil pressure gauge hasn't worked all d=
ay, get back out there!"   I thought Mike Cook's recent post captured Janet=
's well rounded (you should excuse the expression) character.=C2=A0 For sur=
e she was far more than just a unique racer.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0  I thought this was funny, but no dis-respect to Janet.=
=C2=A0 She was a real pioneer in our sport.=C2=A0 I still have the race pro=
gram from that race in 1964, and in addition to Janet Guthrie, there were s=
ome big names in that race.=C2=A0 Bob Nagel and Ed Lowther in an AC Cobra, =
Don Yenko and Dick Thompson in a Corvette, Bob Grossman in a Corvette, and =
Hal Keck in a Cobra.=C2=A0 Bob Tullius did well in the TR-4.=C2=A0 About 2/=
3 of the way through the race, he was running in the top 3 or 4 with the Co=
rvettes and Cobras, when his engine gave out.=C2=A0 They had replaced the e=
ngine the night before the race, so he was running a brand new engine in th=
e race, with no break in time.=C2=A0 I'm going from memory here, and this w=
as over 50 years ago, but I think I am generally correct on this.=C2=A0 Obv=
iously, it had a big impact on me.   Tullius used to give engine prep tips =
to Mike Belfer from time to time, and often Mike, a true mechanic,=C2=A0wou=
ld react with, "My goodness!=C2=A0 Will the engine be able to stand for tha=
t?"=C2=A0 Tullius would grin and say, "It will for twenty-five minutes."=C2=
=A0 Bob is to be the Grand Marshall of the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival at=
 Road America in September.=C2=A0 I won't be racing, but sure hope to be th=
ere.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0   By the way, one more note.=C2=A0 FOT's own Dick Stockt=
on was in a race earlier in the day for C, D, E and F Modified, called the =
"Glen Trophy".=C2=A0 Dick drove a Ferrari in F Modified.=C2=A0 Interesting =
what you can find in these old race programs.Amen to that.=C2=A0 I've raced=
 in sessions with Dick Stockton from time to time down through the years an=
d used to wave at him as he went by.=C2=A0 He went FAST!
  =C2=A0=C2=A0 Warmest personal regards,Bill=C2=A0PS=C2=A0 See attached.=C2=
=A0 It is a shot taken after Tullius had won the TransAm race in the St. Pe=
tersburg Grand Prix (1988 I think).=C2=A0 I had raced in the vintage sessio=
ns at the event.=C2=A0 I was all loaded and ready to take off.=C2=A0 Bob ac=
tually left=C2=A0Victory Circle and came over to visit with me and my TR3.=
=C2=A0 What a class act to do so.=C2=A0Do you recognize the other guy in th=
e photo.=C2=A0 I can't remember who it was, but assume it was part of the G=
roup 44 Team.=C2=A0
    Jack =20
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   I'll be damned. =C2=A0That calendar hangs on the wall behind my desk. =
=C2=A0I flipped the new picture up this morning, but did not notice that di=
stinction. =C2=A0I'll look harder tomorrow morning.  =20
  Bill Dentinger  =20
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     Has anybody noted that the picture for April in the SCCA calender is .=
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   =C2=A0      OBTW: if you follow NASCAR, Danica(n't) just tied another wo=
man's record of 5 top 10 finishes. Took her about 120 races to do it with e=
normous money behind her.   The other woman? Janet Guthrie, who did it in 3=
3 races, without nearly the resources or quality of equipment. Also Ms Guth=
rie oozes charm, wit, character,=C2=A0class, and personality.    I'm not do=
ing INDY this year, but will be there, maybe helping an old friend with his=
 cars. See you there.   Bill  =C2=A0   Bill...  =C2=A0   I could not agree =
more that JANET GUTHRIE is one Class Act!=C2=A0 Had she had decent equipmen=
t back in the day, she'd have been a World Beater.  =C2=A0   Have you read =
her book?=C2=A0 I did and it's a good one.=C2=A0 Its name escapes me right =
now.  =C2=A0   She actually attended one of our Wine & Cheese Parties at Ro=
ad America one time, which=C2=A0was a special treat for us.  =C2=A0   Bill =
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lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_21661" dir=3D"ltr">Hi B=
ill.&nbsp; Might have been Brian Furstenau. He was the engineering brains b=
ehind the group, but always in the background.&nbsp; Died a number of years=
 ago.&nbsp; In the early 60's he drove a TR-3 (number 33, before Bob Sharp =
got that number), while Tullius drove the TR-4 (number 44).&nbsp; I'm think=
ing that was when the TR-3 and TR-4 were in the same class, briefly, before=
 the TR-4 got moved up.&nbsp; John Kelly also drove with the group, but tha=
t doesn't look like him in the picture.&nbsp; There was also a guy from Kan=
sas (I think his name was Mike Garrett?) who raced with the group.&nbsp; Th=
at might have been him in the picture.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975=
414233_21724" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_2=
1725" dir=3D"ltr">Also, I was looking through one of my Carroll Shelby book=
s ("Shelby's Wildlife"), and see reference once again to FOTer Dick Stockto=
n competing in the 1970 ARRC in a BP 289 Cobra.&nbsp; Dick did some dyno wo=
rk and flow bench work for me back in the early 80's.&nbsp; Good guy!</div>=
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_21887" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_21886" dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br></div><div id=3D"=
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eight:bold;">From:</span></b> "[email-masked]" &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t;<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_22160"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1427975414233_22159" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> jwheeler19=
[email-masked] <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Th=
ursday, April 2, 2015 10:30 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Su=
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To: Bill Dentinger &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
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   <span id=3D"yiv4437451573yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5109">I have a great=
 memory of Janet Guthrie.&nbsp; One of the first races I ever attended was =
the "Glen 500" at Watkins Glen.&nbsp; It was The Glen's attempt at somethin=
g like the Trans Am, before the Trans Am existed.&nbsp; They lumped all AP,=
 BP, CP and DP cars together in one race, called the Glen 500.&nbsp; It was=
 held in conjunction with an SCCA National race weekend.&nbsp; Bob Tullius =
was there in a TR-4, and Janet Guthrie was driving a Jag XK-140.</span>
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   <span id=3D"yiv4437451573yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273">I worked at th=
e local radio station in Corning during high school, so I was able to get p=
it passes.&nbsp; While I was in the pits, watching the action, Janet Guthri=
e pulled into the pits.&nbsp; This was about half way through the race (or =
more).&nbsp; One of the crew ran over to the car, and I could hear Janet sa=
y, "we don't have any oil pressure", to which the crew man responded, "the =
oil pressure gauge hasn't worked all day, get back out there!"</span>
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 <span><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D"red"><em>I thou=
ght Mike Cook's recent post captured Janet's well rounded (you should excus=
e the expression) character.&nbsp; For sure she was far more than just a un=
ique racer.</em></font><br clear=3D"none">
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   <span id=3D"yiv4437451573yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273">I thought this=
 was funny, but no dis-respect to Janet.&nbsp; She was a real pioneer in ou=
r sport.&nbsp; I still have the race program from that race in 1964, and in=
 addition to Janet Guthrie, there were some big names in that race.&nbsp; B=
ob Nagel and Ed Lowther in an AC Cobra, Don Yenko and Dick Thompson in a Co=
rvette, Bob Grossman in a Corvette, and Hal Keck in a Cobra.&nbsp; Bob Tull=
ius did well in the TR-4.&nbsp; About 2/3 of the way through the race, he w=
as running in the top 3 or 4 with the Corvettes and Cobras, when his engine=
 gave out.&nbsp; They had replaced the engine the night before the race, so=
 he was running a brand new engine in the race, with no break in time.&nbsp=
; I'm going from memory here, and this was over 50 years ago, but I think I=
 am generally correct on this.&nbsp; Obviously, it had a big impact on me.<=
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ius used to give engine prep tips to Mike Belfer from time to time, and oft=
en Mike, a true mechanic,&nbsp;would react with, "My goodness!&nbsp; Will t=
he engine be able to stand for that?"&nbsp; Tullius would grin and say, "It=
 will for twenty-five minutes."&nbsp; Bob is to be the Grand Marshall of th=
e Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival at Road America in September.&nbsp; I won't=
 be racing, but sure hope to be there.</font><br clear=3D"none">
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   <span id=3D"yiv4437451573yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273">By the way, on=
e more note.&nbsp; FOT's own Dick Stockton was in a race earlier in the day=
 for C, D, E and F Modified, called the "Glen Trophy".&nbsp; Dick drove a F=
errari in F Modified.&nbsp; Interesting what you can find in these old race=
 programs.</span></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><span><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D=
"red"><em>Amen to that.&nbsp; I've raced in sessions with Dick Stockton fro=
m time to time down through the years and used to wave at him as he went by=
.&nbsp; He went FAST!</em></font></span></div>
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r:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"red"><em>Bill</em></fo=
nt></div>

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r:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"red"><em>PS&nbsp; See =
attached.&nbsp; It is a shot taken after Tullius had won the TransAm race i=
n the St. Petersburg Grand Prix (1988 I think).&nbsp; I had raced in the vi=
ntage sessions at the event.&nbsp; I was all loaded and ready to take off.&=
nbsp; Bob actually left&nbsp;Victory Circle and came over to visit with me =
and my TR3.&nbsp; What a class act to do so.&nbsp;Do you recognize the othe=
r guy in the photo.&nbsp; I can't remember who it was, but assume it was pa=
rt of the Group 44 Team.</em></font></div>

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entinger via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:f=
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ow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
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From: Dick Stockton via Fot <[email-masked]>
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Thanks, Jack. Hope to see you at Summit.

The Ferrari TRC  (2.0L Testarossa) was owned by George Siomko. He bought it
for dirt cheap off a fellow named Genetti - I think it ran Sebring in '56
or '57. Ray Heppenstall and I went to Connecticut to pick it up for George
and it sat in the loft of my shop. George would practice the car and Ray
and I would split the racing duties. We didn't do anything to the car other
than wash it and ran it 4-6x a year. It was pretty fast for what it was,
not the fastest car, but it was an old race car by then.  When I was moving
to my new shop in '65, George wanted to sell me the car for $600, but I
didn't have any money for it at the time. He sold it to a fellow named Hap
Smallback and he did hillclimbs with it.

Here is a picture of it at Marlboro:
https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/l/t31.0-8/858493_472776049437033_1033863366_o.jpg

Bob Tullius and I entered the Glen 500 in '65 in my car and we took the
victory in the class and 7th overall. I have the trophy somewhere.

The Cobra was an original '260 car (CSX2009) with worm gear steering. It
was upgraded to a 289 car by the time I got it from Gene Fisher. I did
pretty well with it and did a lot of development work on it. We found 30bhp
by redesigning the exhaust and replacing the side pipes. I had Air Flow
Research (AFR) do the heads and worked with Harvey Crane on a camshaft. It
made about 350bhp. The carburetor and intake were the real restriction. You
could measure the bump steer in inches and had to drive it sideways. I was
'69 and '70 NE BP Champion, set lap records, and finished 2nd at the ARRC
in 1970 to Allen Barker's newer '69 Corvette. At the 1969 ARRC at Daytona,
I blew my main motor in practice and we used a Holman Moody motor which was
down on power. Started from the back and finished 7th. The car was wrecked
at Watkins Glen after I sold it in 1970, but was subsequently restored to
FIA spec and auctioned a few years ago.

Here is a picture of it then:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/v/t1.0-9/561553_473084832739488_1428024572_n.jpg?oh=003e71767b0482bbc0d1ecb12d7bb137&oe=55A5514F&__gda__=1438488763_aa815ffae3290645f9f89a0e53284b67

https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/856583_472761392771832_151764043_o.jpg

https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/534974_473084852739486_1853182748_n.jpg?oh=c8dcdc7311701ec6af48f2d633102cf1&oe=559B4F83

and now:
http://www.russoandsteele.com/index.php/media-page/media-press-releases/1241-award-winning-1963-shelby-cobra-csx-2009-offered-at-russo-and-steele-scottsdale-event

I know Janet from the IMSA Baby Grand / RS races as we both ran Toyota's.

Dick

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">Thanks, =
Jack. Hope to see you at Summit.=C2=A0</span><br></div><div style=3D"font-s=
ize:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349p=
x">The Ferrari TRC =C2=A0(2.0L Testarossa) was owned by George Siomko. He b=
ought it for dirt cheap off a fellow named Genetti - I think it ran Sebring=
 in &#39;56 or &#39;57. Ray Heppenstall and I went to Connecticut to pick i=
t up for George and it sat in the loft of my shop. George would practice th=
e car and Ray and I would split the racing duties. We didn&#39;t do anythin=
g to the car other than wash it and ran it 4-6x a year. It was pretty fast =
for what it was, not the fastest car, but it was an old race car by then.=
=C2=A0 When I was moving to my new shop in &#39;65, George wanted to sell m=
e the car for $600, but I didn&#39;t have any money for it at the time. He =
sold it to a fellow named Hap Smallback and he did hillclimbs with it.=C2=
=A0</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style=
=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">Here is a picture of it at Marlboro:=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/l/t31.0-8/8584=
93_472776049437033_1033863366_o.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://scontent-lga=
.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/l/t31.0-8/858493_472776049437033_1033863366_o.jp=
g</a></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style=
=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">Bob Tullius and I entered the Glen 500 in=
 &#39;65 in my car and we took the victory in the class and 7th overall. I =
have the trophy somewhere.</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"=
><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">The Cobra was an ori=
ginal &#39;260 car (CSX2009) with worm gear steering. It was upgraded to a =
289 car by the time I got it from Gene Fisher. I did pretty well with it an=
d did a lot of development work on it. We found 30bhp by redesigning the ex=
haust and replacing the side pipes. I had Air Flow Research (AFR) do the he=
ads and worked with Harvey Crane on a camshaft. It made about 350bhp. The c=
arburetor and intake were the real restriction. You could measure the bump =
steer in inches and had to drive it sideways. I was &#39;69 and &#39;70 NE =
BP Champion, set lap records, and finished 2nd at the ARRC in 1970 to Allen=
 Barker&#39;s newer &#39;69 Corvette. At the 1969 ARRC at Daytona, I blew m=
y main motor in practice and we used a Holman Moody motor which was down on=
 power. Started from the back and finished 7th. The car was wrecked at Watk=
ins Glen after I sold it in 1970, but was subsequently restored to FIA spec=
 and auctioned a few years ago.=C2=A0</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.80000=
01907349px"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">Here is a=
 picture of it then:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net=
/hphotos-ak-frc3/v/t1.0-9/561553_473084832739488_1428024572_n.jpg?oh=3D003e=
71767b0482bbc0d1ecb12d7bb137&amp;oe=3D55A5514F&amp;__gda__=3D1438488763_aa8=
15ffae3290645f9f89a0e53284b67" target=3D"_blank">https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.=
akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/v/t1.0-9/561553_473084832739488_1428024572_n.j=
pg?oh=3D003e71767b0482bbc0d1ecb12d7bb137&amp;oe=3D55A5514F&amp;__gda__=3D14=
38488763_aa815ffae3290645f9f89a0e53284b67</a></div><div style=3D"font-size:=
12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style><a href=3D"https://scontent-lga.xx=
.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/856583_472761392771832_151764043_o.jpg">htt=
ps://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/856583_472761392771832_=
151764043_o.jpg</a><br></div><div style><br></div><div style><a href=3D"htt=
ps://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/534974_473084852739486=
_1853182748_n.jpg?oh=3Dc8dcdc7311701ec6af48f2d633102cf1&amp;oe=3D559B4F83">=
https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/534974_473084852739=
486_1853182748_n.jpg?oh=3Dc8dcdc7311701ec6af48f2d633102cf1&amp;oe=3D559B4F8=
3</a>=C2=A0<br></div><div style><span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px=
"><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><d=
iv style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">and now:</div><div style=3D"font-=
size:12.8000001907349px"><a href=3D"http://www.russoandsteele.com/index.php=
/media-page/media-press-releases/1241-award-winning-1963-shelby-cobra-csx-2=
009-offered-at-russo-and-steele-scottsdale-event" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.russoandsteele.com/index.php/media-page/media-press-releases/1241-award=
-winning-1963-shelby-cobra-csx-2009-offered-at-russo-and-steele-scottsdale-=
event</a><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><d=
iv style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">I know Janet from the IMSA Baby G=
rand / RS races as we both ran Toyota&#39;s.=C2=A0</div><div style=3D"font-=
size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349=
px"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">Dick=C2=A0</div><=
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From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 13:44:32 +0000 (UTC)

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And Denny Wilson was no slouch!=C2=A0 I raced my TR-4 in the Midwest Divisi=
on, when Denny was racing his TR-6.=C2=A0 Fortunately, we were in different=
 classes.=C2=A0 One of the highlights of his career was chasing Doc Bundy i=
n the factory Porsche at The Runoffs in the rain.=C2=A0 The TR-6 would go t=
hrough the corners going sideways in the rain, trying to catch Bundy.=C2=A0=
 Finally, on the last lap, the TR-6 motor went up in a huge cloud of smoke =
going up the hill at turn 1 at Atlanta.=C2=A0 He was right on Bundy's tail =
at the moment.=C2=A0 Some great racing.
Jack
      From: John Hasty via Fot <[email-masked]>
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Yes! I especially like the one of you beating Denny Wilson's hot Lotus 7!

Sent from my iPhone

[email-masked]>> wrote:

Hello Dick,
Thanks for sharing this story with photos.=C2=A0 Wonderful!
I enjoy watching your YouTube videos of you driving the heck out of your TR=
4.=C2=A0 Obviously you still have the skills of a champion.

Dave H.

________________________________
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 4:02:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event

The Ferrari TRC=C2=A0 (2.0L Testarossa) was owned by George Siomko. He boug=
ht it for dirt cheap off a fellow named Genetti - I think it ran Sebring in=
 '56 or '57. Ray Heppenstall and I went to Connecticut to pick it up for Ge=
orge and it sat in the loft of my shop. George would practice the car and R=
ay and I would split the racing duties. We didn't do anything to the car ot=
her than wash it and ran it 4-6x a year. It was pretty fast for what it was=
, not the fastest car, but it was an old race car by then.=C2=A0 When I was=
 moving to my new shop in '65, George wanted to sell me the car for $600, b=
ut I didn't have any money for it at the time. He sold it to a fellow named=
 Hap Smallback and he did hillclimbs with it.

Here is a picture of it at Marlboro: https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho=
tos-xfa1/l/t31.0-8/858493_472776049437033_1033863366_o.jpg

Bob Tullius and I entered the Glen 500 in '65 in my car and we took the vic=
tory in the class and 7th overall. I have the trophy somewhere.

The Cobra was an original '260 car (CSX2009) with worm gear steering. It wa=
s upgraded to a 289 car by the time I got it from Gene Fisher. I did pretty=
 well with it and did a lot of development work on it. We found 30bhp by re=
designing the exhaust and replacing the side pipes. I had Air Flow Research=
 (AFR) do the heads and worked with Harvey Crane on a camshaft. It made abo=
ut 350bhp. The carburetor and intake were the real restriction. You could m=
easure the bump steer in inches and had to drive it sideways. I was '69 and=
 '70 NE BP Champion, set lap records, and finished 2nd at the ARRC in 1970 =
to Allen Barker's newer '69 Corvette. At the 1969 ARRC at Daytona, I blew m=
y main motor in practice and we used a Holman Moody motor which was down on=
 power. Started from the back and finished 7th. The car was wrecked at Watk=
ins Glen after I sold it in 1970, but was subsequently restored to FIA spec=
 and auctioned a few years ago.

Here is a picture of it then: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphoto=
s-ak-frc3/v/t1.0-9/561553_473084832739488_1428024572_n.jpg?oh=3D003e71767b0=
482bbc0d1ecb12d7bb137&oe=3D55A5514F&__gda__=3D1438488763_aa815ffae3290645f9=
f89a0e53284b67

https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/856583_4727613927718=
32_151764043_o.jpg

https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/534974_473084852739=
486_1853182748_n.jpg?oh=3Dc8dcdc7311701ec6af48f2d633102cf1&oe=3D559B4F83

and now:
http://www.russoandsteele.com/index.php/media-page/media-press-releases/124=
1-award-winning-1963-shelby-cobra-csx-2009-offered-at-russo-and-steele-scot=
tsdale-event

Dick

st.net

w.com

  
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lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_66293"><spa=
n id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_66744">And Denny Wilson was no slouch!&n=
bsp; I raced my TR-4 in the Midwest Division, when Denny was racing his TR-=
6.&nbsp; Fortunately, we were in different classes.&nbsp; One of the highli=
ghts of his career was chasing Doc Bundy in the factory Porsche at The Runo=
ffs in the rain.&nbsp; The TR-6 would go through the corners going sideways=
 in the rain, trying to catch Bundy.&nbsp; Finally, on the last lap, the TR=
-6 motor went up in a huge cloud of smoke going up the hill at turn 1 at At=
lanta.&nbsp; He was right on Bundy's tail at the moment.&nbsp; Some great r=
acing.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414=
233_66744"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142797541=
4233_66744">Jack</span></div><br>  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_66=
320" style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,=
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975414233_66319" style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helve=
tica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1427975414233_66318" dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1427975414233_66751" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_1_1427975414233_66750"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_66749" styl=
e=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> John Hasty via Fot &lt;[email-masked]=
eam.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> daveho=
gye &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">C=
c:</span></b> Friends of Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br> <b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 2, 2015 7:58 P=
M<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] F=
w: Best spectator vintage event<br> </font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1427975414233_66321" class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>Yes! I especially like t=
he one of you beating Denny Wilson's hot Lotus 7!<br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">On Apr=
 2, 2015, at 7:43 PM, "davehogye via Fot" &lt;<a id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975=
414233_66322" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&lt;mailto:<a shape=3D"rec=
t" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
>Hello Dick,<br clear=3D"none">Thanks for sharing this story with photos.&n=
bsp; Wonderful!<br clear=3D"none">I enjoy watching your YouTube videos of y=
ou driving the heck out of your TR4.&nbsp; Obviously you still have the ski=
lls of a champion.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Dave H.<br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">___________=
_____________________<br clear=3D"none">From: "Dick Stockton via Fot" &lt;<=
a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:fot@a=
utox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&lt;mailto:<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fot@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a>&lt;mailto:<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"no=
ne">Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 4:02:26 PM<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re:=
 [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
">Thanks, Jack. Hope to see you at Summit.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one">The Ferrari TRC&nbsp; (2.0L Testarossa) was owned by George Siomko. He=
 bought it for dirt cheap off a fellow named Genetti - I think it ran Sebri=
ng in '56 or '57. Ray Heppenstall and I went to Connecticut to pick it up f=
or George and it sat in the loft of my shop. George would practice the car =
and Ray and I would split the racing duties. We didn't do anything to the c=
ar other than wash it and ran it 4-6x a year. It was pretty fast for what i=
t was, not the fastest car, but it was an old race car by then.&nbsp; When =
I was moving to my new shop in '65, George wanted to sell me the car for $6=
00, but I didn't have any money for it at the time. He sold it to a fellow =
named Hap Smallback and he did hillclimbs with it.<br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none">Here is a picture of it at Marlboro: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D=
"https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/l/t31.0-8/858493_4727760494=
37033_1033863366_o.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net=
/hphotos-xfa1/l/t31.0-8/858493_472776049437033_1033863366_o.jpg</a><br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Bob Tullius and I entered the Glen 500 in '65=
 in my car and we took the victory in the class and 7th overall. I have the=
 trophy somewhere.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">The Cobra was an or=
iginal '260 car (CSX2009) with worm gear steering. It was upgraded to a 289=
 car by the time I got it from Gene Fisher. I did pretty well with it and d=
id a lot of development work on it. We found 30bhp by redesigning the exhau=
st and replacing the side pipes. I had Air Flow Research (AFR) do the heads=
 and worked with Harvey Crane on a camshaft. It made about 350bhp. The carb=
uretor and intake were the real restriction. You could measure the bump ste=
er in inches and had to drive it sideways. I was '69 and '70 NE BP Champion=
, set lap records, and finished 2nd at the ARRC in 1970 to Allen Barker's n=
ewer '69 Corvette. At the 1969 ARRC at Daytona, I blew my main motor in pra=
ctice and we used a Holman Moody motor which was down on power. Started fro=
m the back and finished 7th. The car was wrecked at Watkins Glen after I so=
ld it in 1970, but was subsequently restored to FIA spec and auctioned a fe=
w years ago.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Here is a picture of it t=
hen: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphot=
os-ak-frc3/v/t1.0-9/561553_473084832739488_1428024572_n.jpg?oh=3D003e71767b=
0482bbc0d1ecb12d7bb137&amp;oe=3D55A5514F&amp;__gda__=3D1438488763_aa815ffae=
3290645f9f89a0e53284b67" target=3D"_blank">https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamai=
hd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/v/t1.0-9/561553_473084832739488_1428024572_n.jpg?oh=
=3D003e71767b0482bbc0d1ecb12d7bb137&amp;oe=3D55A5514F&amp;__gda__=3D1438488=
763_aa815ffae3290645f9f89a0e53284b67</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
e"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2=
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scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/856583_472761392771832_15176=
4043_o.jpg</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/534974_47308485=
2739486_1853182748_n.jpg?oh=3Dc8dcdc7311701ec6af48f2d633102cf1&amp;oe=3D559=
B4F83" target=3D"_blank">https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t=
1.0-9/534974_473084852739486_1853182748_n.jpg?oh=3Dc8dcdc7311701ec6af48f2d6=
33102cf1&amp;oe=3D559B4F83</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">and now:<br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www=
.russoandsteele.com/index.php/media-page/media-press-releases/1241-award-wi=
nning-1963-shelby-cobra-csx-2009-offered-at-russo-and-steele-scottsdale-eve=
nt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.russoandsteele.com/index.php/media-page/me=
dia-press-releases/1241-award-winning-1963-shelby-cobra-csx-2009-offered-at=
-russo-and-steele-scottsdale-event</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
>I know Janet from the IMSA Baby Grand / RS races as we both ran Toyota's.<=
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