Subject: [Fot] Lucas break in oil

From: Greg And Alison Blake via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 17:01:34 -0500

Has anyone used the Lucas break in oil?  I've used joe Gibbs in the past but the price advantage of the Lucas is about 3:1. 

Thanks 

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 20:18:03 -0400

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From: Brian Schirano via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 12:00:36 +0000 (UTC)

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Interesting, I was recently getting opinions onRotella locally, as I've hea=
rd from a couple of guys they run it in this andthat HP motors on a regular=
 basis (non Vintage guys), not just breakin. I sent a note to Shell andthey=
 say =E2=80=9CT6 5W-40 has approximately 1280 parts permillion of ZDDP=E2=
=80=9D.=C2=A0 This is aboutthe same as the Mobil One I run. That said a loc=
al detractor said it has toomuch detergent in his opinion.

SOoooo =E2=80=93 that=E2=80=99s all I can say, no firsthandexperience, but =
am considering running it. I like the discussion, and BTW the Rotella isn't=
 particularly cheap, have to watch em, it's a 4 qt jug vs most others are 5=
 qt.

ThanksBrian=C2=A0Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0
[email-masked]
      From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <[email-masked]>
 To: Duncan Charlton <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20
 Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 8:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas break in oil
  =20
I don't have an ax to grind with Lucas Oil products, but I sure do endorse =
Shell Rotella as a race engine break-in oil.=C2=A0 I always used it exclusi=
vely in the diesel engine in my tow vehicle, and we used it to break in rac=
e engines as well.

Bill Dentinger
=C2=A0=20

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 11, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Duncan Charlton via Fot <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>=20
> I am likewise a distrustful of Lucas oil.=C2=A0 The gear lube display oft=
en seen on the counter at auto parts stores demonstrates the climbing effec=
t of their lube and they claim this makes it better than conventional gear =
lubricants, however, an experimental demonstration posted on the bobistheoi=
lguy website revealed that the lube picked up a large mount of air compared=
 to 'regular' gear lube.=C2=A0 It makes me distrust their other products.
>=20
> I've used high quality assembly lube, broken in the cam properly, and the=
n did break in miles with Rotella.
>=20
> Duncan
> (Texas)
>=20
>> On 4/11/15 5:58 PM, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote:
>> I don't subscribe to the Lucas aura. The lubrication additives I have fo=
und end up in the pan and have the consistency of hard Jello. I called Luca=
s and they couldn't put me in contact with an engineer that could explain w=
hy their products do this.
>>=20
>> When I build an engine with a new cam and lifters I use Shell Rotella 15=
w40 exclusively.
>>=20
>> I have used their (Lucas) assembly lube (sticky slimey stuff) with no is=
sues however.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On 4/11/2015 6:01 PM, Greg And Alison Blake via Fot wrote:
>>> Has anyone used the Lucas break in oil? I've used joe Gibbs in the past=
 but the price advantage of the Lucas is about 3:1.
>>>=20
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lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div class=3D"" style=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_1=
0024"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-image: =
initial; background-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; backgrou=
nd-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: initial;=
 background-repeat: initial;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_1=
0023">Interesting, I was recently getting opinions on
Rotella locally, as I've heard from a couple of guys they run it in this an=
d
that HP motors on a regular basis (non Vintage guys), not just breakin. I s=
ent a note to Shell and
they say =E2=80=9CT</span><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_9587" clas=
s=3D"" style=3D"">6 5W-40 has approximately 1280 parts per
million of ZDDP</span>=E2=80=9D.&nbsp; This is about
the same as the Mobil One I run. That said a local detractor said it has to=
o
much detergent in his opinion.<o:p class=3D"" style=3D""></o:p></div><div c=
lass=3D"" style=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_10024"><br></div><div=
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pan style=3D"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-image: initial;=
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n: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: initial; backgro=
und-repeat: initial;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_10030">SO=
oooo =E2=80=93 that=E2=80=99s all I can say, no firsthand
experience, but am considering running it. I like the discussion, and BTW t=
he Rotella isn't particularly cheap, have to watch em, it's a 4 qt jug vs m=
ost others are 5 qt.<o:p class=3D"" style=3D""></o:p></span></div><div clas=
s=3D"" style=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_10031"><span style=3D"fo=
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d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_10437">Thanks</span></div><div class=3D"" s=
tyle=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_10031" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=
=3D"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-image: initial; backgrou=
nd-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initia=
l; background-clip: initial; background-position: initial; background-repea=
t: initial;" class=3D"">Brian</span></div><div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1428839237283_9586">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"signature" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1428839237283_9374">Brian Schirano<br>585-305-0349 Cell&nbsp;<br>BSchira=
[email-masked]</div><br>  <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica=
 Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_9378"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue=
, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
6px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_9377"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_=
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_9375">  <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_9=
379"> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_9918"><span style=3D"font-weight:=
bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_9917">From:</span></b> Bill Denting=
er via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14288392372=
83_9916"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142883923728=
3_9915">To:</span></b> Duncan Charlton &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "[email-masked]=
t" &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Se=
nt:</span></b> Saturday, April 11, 2015 8:18 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] Lucas break in oil<br> </font>=
 </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428839237283_968=
9"><br>I don't have an ax to grind with Lucas Oil products, but I sure do e=
ndorse Shell Rotella as a race engine break-in oil.&nbsp; I always used it =
exclusively in the diesel engine in my tow vehicle, and we used it to break=
 in race engines as well.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Bill Denting=
er<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Sent from=
 my iPad<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Apr 11, 2015, at 6:35=
 PM, Duncan Charlton via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@au=
tox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; I am likewise a dist=
rustful of Lucas oil.&nbsp; The gear lube display often seen on the counter=
 at auto parts stores demonstrates the climbing effect of their lube and th=
ey claim this makes it better than conventional gear lubricants, however, a=
n experimental demonstration posted on the bobistheoilguy website revealed =
that the lube picked up a large mount of air compared to 'regular' gear lub=
e.&nbsp; It makes me distrust their other products.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; I've used high quality assembly lube, broken in the=
 cam properly, and then did break in miles with Rotella.<br clear=3D"none">=
&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Duncan<br clear=3D"none">&gt; (Texas)<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; On 4/11/15 5:58 PM, Glenn Franco=
 via Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; I don't subscribe to the Lucas a=
ura. The lubrication additives I have found end up in the pan and have the =
consistency of hard Jello. I called Lucas and they couldn't put me in conta=
ct with an engineer that could explain why their products do this.<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; When I build an engine with =
a new cam and lifters I use Shell Rotella 15w40 exclusively.<br clear=3D"no=
ne">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; I have used their (Lucas) assembly=
 lube (sticky slimey stuff) with no issues however.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&=
gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"no=
ne">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br cl=
ear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt; On 4/11/2015 6:01 PM, Greg And Alison Blake via F=
ot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt; Has anyone used the Lucas break in=
 oil? I've used joe Gibbs in the past but the price advantage of the Lucas =
is about 3:1.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt=
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From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:43:31 -0400

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In a message dated 04/12/2015 10:11:07 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

> I too have stuck with Valvoline VR1, and I use the off the shelf 20W-50. 
> It has gone from a $2.99 a quart oil to $6.99 and that puts it within a few 
> bucks of some of the dedicated stuff. I may reconsider this in the future 
> and abandon my admittedly too frequent oil dumping schedule.
> 
Historically the FOT has been great about calling out dealers who are 
having sales on desireable products like VALVOLINE VR1.  The sales usually offer 
great value, and make it worth while to buy a stash and put it on the shelf. 

If you see it on sale at a particular supplier, post a notice on the FOT 
list.

Bill Dentinger

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 dated 04/12/2015 10:11:07 AM Central Daylight Time, [email-masked] wr=
ites:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LE=
FT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I too have stuck with Valvo=
line VR1, and I use the off the shelf 20W-50. It has gone from a $2.99 a=
 quart oil to $6.99 and that puts it within a few bucks of some of the ded=
icated stuff. I may reconsider this in the future and abandon my admittedl=
y too frequent oil dumping schedule.<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#400040" BACK=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR=
: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=
=3D"0">Historically the FOT has been great about calling out dealers who=
 are having sales on desireable products like VALVOLINE VR1.&nbsp; The sal=
es usually offer great value, and make it worth while to buy a stash and=
 put it on the shelf. <BR>
<BR>
If you see it on sale at a particular supplier, post a notice on the FOT=
 list.<BR>
<BR>
Bill Dentinger<BR>
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