Subject: Re: [Fot] TR? Could hurt your eyes

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:34:23 -1000

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I stuck a Toyota 2TG motor into my first TR3, which later became my =
total cheater TR3 with a more original drivetrain stuck back in. the =
Triyota was a pleasure to drive, and had the added advantage of always =
getting me back home, and never scattering bits of the gearbox =
everywhere. Five speed gearbox was pretty cool too, but former owners of =
=E2=80=9Creal=E2=80=9D Triumph (none of whom had a Triumph anymore) =
would puke when I opened the hood.=20

Yes, I=E2=80=99m back. I thought all you guys had disappeared, but it =
turned out it was me. A little email problem.=20

I don=E2=80=99t remember if I showed you folks my new shop. This is a =
website I=E2=80=99m building=E2=80=94very slowly. Spending too much time =
in the water.

http://www.ponostyle.com/garage-porn/ =
<http://www.ponostyle.com/garage-porn/>

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> On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I kind of like the concept, they just stopped a little short.  Picture =
the same car with some box flairs covering the tires, some panasports =
instead of those wheels on there currently, and turbo 4 or 6 =
cylinder.......
> =20
> =20
> =20
> Amici...
> =20
> My instructor at the first Driver's School I ever attended was a guy =
named Hal Ulrich.  He was an ex-SCCA National Champion, and in fact had =
to be one of the first ever, because he raced in all of those early USA =
sports car races through the streets of Elkhart Lake and Watkins Glen.  =
He was a hired hot shoe, who drove for 'gentleman' sports car owners.  =
He was a great guy, but I drove him crazy because I couldn't double =
clutch during the sessions, and I was wearing out the synchros.  He and =
his brother Bill ran a 'speed shop' that, back in the day, catered to =
Chicago's 'Gold Coast' (Lake Forest, etc.) folks.  His life time =
experiences were full of exotic cars like Aston Martin, Bugatti, =
Excaliber, Ferrari, etc., but he had a special place in his heart for =
Triumphs (especially the TR2 and TR3).  He told me that in the mid to =
late 1950s they put tons of Chevy V8 engines in TR2s and TR3s.  He said =
they must have done forty or fifty of them.
> =20
> Hal is dead now, and I am not sure about Bill.  But these were two =
extremely interesting guys.  When they started telling tales, you would =
end up spell bound.  Bill's lifetime quest was the process of developing =
his own 'Bugatti-like' engine.  Not sure if it ever became a physical =
reality, but I know there was a bunch of people interested in it, and =
being involved financially.  One story Hal told me was about the time =
one of his customers bought one of the three Bugatti Royales.  Hal flew =
out to New Jersey to pick it up, and then drove it back to Chicago.  He =
said mechanically it made the trip with no problem whatsoever, except =
that it was the dead of winter, and the car had no heater (at least no =
working heater).  Those three Royales  are now, arguably, the most =
valuable collector cars in the world.
> =20
> I am rambling, but my point was that even back in the late 1950s lots =
of people were modifying TR3s.  That's my point, my position is, "Shame =
on them!"
> =20
> Bill Dentinger
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class=3D"">I stuck a Toyota 2TG motor into my first TR3, which later =
became my total cheater TR3 with a more original drivetrain stuck back =
in. the Triyota was a pleasure to drive, and had the added advantage of =
always getting me back home, and never scattering bits of the gearbox =
everywhere. Five speed gearbox was pretty cool too, but former owners of =
=E2=80=9Creal=E2=80=9D Triumph (none of whom had a Triumph anymore) =
would puke when I opened the hood.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Yes, I=E2=80=99m back. I thought all =
you guys had disappeared, but it turned out it was me. A little email =
problem.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I=
 don=E2=80=99t remember if I showed you folks my new shop. This is a =
website I=E2=80=99m building=E2=80=94very slowly. Spending too much time =
in the water.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><a=
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blue; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;" class=3D"">I =
kind of like the concept, they just stopped a little short.&nbsp; =
Picture the same car with some box flairs covering the tires, some =
panasports instead of those wheels on there currently, and turbo 4 =
or&nbsp;6 cylinder.......
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class=3D"">Amici...</div>

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class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">My instructor&nbsp;at the first Driver's School I ever =
attended was a guy named Hal Ulrich.&nbsp; He was an ex-SCCA National =
Champion, and in fact had to be one of the first ever, because&nbsp;he =
raced in all of those early USA sports car races through the streets of =
Elkhart Lake and Watkins Glen.&nbsp; He was a hired hot shoe, who drove =
for 'gentleman' sports car owners.&nbsp; He was a great guy, but I drove =
him crazy because I couldn't double clutch during the sessions, and I =
was wearing out the synchros.&nbsp; He and his brother Bill ran a 'speed =
shop' that, back in the day, catered to Chicago's 'Gold Coast' (Lake =
Forest, etc.) folks.&nbsp; His life time experiences were full of exotic =
cars like Aston Martin, Bugatti, Excaliber,&nbsp;Ferrari, etc., but he =
had&nbsp;a special place in his heart for Triumphs (especially the TR2 =
and TR3).&nbsp; He told me that in the mid to late 1950s they put tons =
of Chevy V8 engines in TR2s and TR3s.&nbsp; He said they must have done =
forty or fifty of them.</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">Hal is dead now, and I am not sure about Bill.&nbsp; But =
these were two extremely interesting guys.&nbsp; When they started =
telling tales, you would end up spell bound.&nbsp;&nbsp;Bill's lifetime =
quest was the&nbsp;process of developing his own 'Bugatti-like' =
engine.&nbsp; Not sure if it ever became a physical&nbsp;reality, but I =
know there was a bunch of people interested in it, and being involved =
financially.&nbsp;&nbsp;One story&nbsp;Hal told me was about the time =
one of his customers bought one of the three Bugatti Royales.&nbsp; Hal =
flew out to New Jersey to pick it up, and then drove it back to =
Chicago.&nbsp; He said mechanically it made the trip with =
no&nbsp;problem whatsoever, except that it was the dead of winter, and =
the car had no heater&nbsp;(at least&nbsp;no working heater).&nbsp; =
Those three Royales&nbsp; are now, arguably, the most valuable collector =
cars in the world.</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">I am rambling, but my point was that even back in the late =
1950s lots of people were modifying TR3s.&nbsp; That's my point, my =
position is, "Shame on them!"</div>

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class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">Bill Dentinger</div>

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:02:01 -0600

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I saw one of the seven built (apparently not three) at the Sinsheim, 
Germany transportation museum (someone else's photo here: 
http://tinyurl.com/ow57nk7).  It's pretty remarkable when you get next 
to it and realize that those are 24" wheels, which are in scale with the 
rest of the car.

Duncan
(Texas)

On 3/6/15 10:20 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote:
>
>     I kind of like the concept, they just stopped a little short. 
>     Picture the same car with some box flairs covering the tires, some
>     panasports instead of those wheels on there currently, and turbo 4
>     or 6 cylinder....... 
>
> Amici...
> My instructor at the first Driver's School I ever attended was a guy 
> named Hal Ulrich.  He was an ex-SCCA National Champion, and in fact 
> had to be one of the first ever, because he raced in all of those 
> early USA sports car races through the streets of Elkhart Lake and 
> Watkins Glen. He was a hired hot shoe, who drove for 'gentleman' 
> sports car owners.  He was a great guy, but I drove him crazy because 
> I couldn't double clutch during the sessions, and I was wearing out 
> the synchros.  He and his brother Bill ran a 'speed shop' that, back 
> in the day, catered to Chicago's 'Gold Coast' (Lake Forest, etc.) 
> folks.  His life time experiences were full of exotic cars like Aston 
> Martin, Bugatti, Excaliber, Ferrari, etc., but he had a special place 
> in his heart for Triumphs (especially the TR2 and TR3).  He told me 
> that in the mid to late 1950s they put tons of Chevy V8 engines in 
> TR2s and TR3s.  He said they must have done forty or fifty of them.
> Hal is dead now, and I am not sure about Bill.  But these were two 
> extremely interesting guys.  When they started telling tales, you 
> would end up spell bound.  Bill's lifetime quest was the process of 
> developing his own 'Bugatti-like' engine.  Not sure if it ever became 
> a physical reality, but I know there was a bunch of people interested 
> in it, and being involved financially.  One story Hal told me was 
> about the time one of his customers bought one of the three Bugatti 
> Royales.  Hal flew out to New Jersey to pick it up, and then drove it 
> back to Chicago.  He said mechanically it made the trip with 
> no problem whatsoever, except that it was the dead of winter, and the 
> car had no heater (at least no working heater).  Those three Royales  
> are now, arguably, the most valuable collector cars in the world.
> I am rambling, but my point was that even back in the late 1950s lots 
> of people were modifying TR3s. That's my point, my position is, "Shame 
> on them!"
> Bill Dentinger
>
>
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    I saw one of the seven built (apparently not three) at the Sinsheim,
    Germany transportation museum (someone else's photo here:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tinyurl.com/ow57nk7">http://tinyurl.com/ow57nk7</a>).  It's pretty remarkable when you get
    next to it and realize that those are 24" wheels, which are in scale
    with the rest of the car.<br>
    <br>
    Duncan<br>
    (Texas)<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/6/15 10:20 AM, Bill Dentinger via
      Fot wrote:<br>
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          <blockquote style="padding-left: 3px; border-left-color: blue;
            border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;">I kind of
            like the concept, they just stopped a little short.  Picture
            the same car with some box flairs covering the tires, some
            panasports instead of those wheels on there currently, and
            turbo 4 or 6 cylinder....... </blockquote>
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        <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica;
          font-size: 10pt;">Amici...</div>
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          font-size: 10pt;"> </div>
        <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica;
          font-size: 10pt;">My instructor at the first Driver's School I
          ever attended was a guy named Hal Ulrich.  He was an ex-SCCA
          National Champion, and in fact had to be one of the first
          ever, because he raced in all of those early USA sports car
          races through the streets of Elkhart Lake and Watkins Glen. 
          He was a hired hot shoe, who drove for 'gentleman' sports car
          owners.  He was a great guy, but I drove him crazy because I
          couldn't double clutch during the sessions, and I was wearing
          out the synchros.  He and his brother Bill ran a 'speed shop'
          that, back in the day, catered to Chicago's 'Gold Coast' (Lake
          Forest, etc.) folks.  His life time experiences were full of
          exotic cars like Aston Martin, Bugatti, Excaliber, Ferrari,
          etc., but he had a special place in his heart for Triumphs
          (especially the TR2 and TR3).  He told me that in the mid to
          late 1950s they put tons of Chevy V8 engines in TR2s and
          TR3s.  He said they must have done forty or fifty of them.</div>
        <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica;
          font-size: 10pt;"> </div>
        <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica;
          font-size: 10pt;">Hal is dead now, and I am not sure about
          Bill.  But these were two extremely interesting guys.  When
          they started telling tales, you would end up spell
          bound.  Bill's lifetime quest was the process of developing
          his own 'Bugatti-like' engine.  Not sure if it ever became a
          physical reality, but I know there was a bunch of people
          interested in it, and being involved financially.  One
          story Hal told me was about the time one of his customers
          bought one of the three Bugatti Royales.  Hal flew out to New
          Jersey to pick it up, and then drove it back to Chicago.  He
          said mechanically it made the trip with no problem whatsoever,
          except that it was the dead of winter, and the car had no
          heater (at least no working heater).  Those three Royales  are
          now, arguably, the most valuable collector cars in the world.</div>
        <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica;
          font-size: 10pt;"> </div>
        <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica;
          font-size: 10pt;">I am rambling, but my point was that even
          back in the late 1950s lots of people were modifying TR3s. 
          That's my point, my position is, "Shame on them!"</div>
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        <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica;
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class=3D"">Well that=E2=80=99s irritating. Try now.&nbsp;<br =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Mar 6, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Barr, Scott &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
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rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><div =
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style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot [<a =
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class=3D"">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Bill Babcock =
via Fot<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friday, March 06, 2015 =
11:34 AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
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text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR? Could hurt =
your eyes<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">I stuck a Toyota 2TG motor into my first =
TR3, which later became my total cheater TR3 with a more original =
drivetrain stuck back in. the Triyota was a pleasure to drive, and had =
the added advantage of always getting me back home, and never scattering =
bits of the gearbox everywhere. Five speed gearbox was pretty cool too, =
but former owners of =E2=80=9Creal=E2=80=9D Triumph (none of whom had a =
Triumph anymore) would puke when I opened the hood.&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
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style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Yes, I=E2=80=99m back. I thought all you =
guys had disappeared, but it turned out it was me. A little email =
problem.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">I don=E2=80=99t remember if I showed you folks my new =
shop. This is a website I=E2=80=99m building=E2=80=94very slowly. =
Spending too much time in the water.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div=
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><a href=3D"http://www.ponostyle.com/garage-porn/" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">http://www.ponostyle.com/garage-porn/</a><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">On =
Mar 6, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><blockquote style=3D"border-style: none none none solid; =
border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in =
2pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I kind of like the concept, =
they just stopped a little short.&nbsp; Picture the same car with some =
box flairs covering the tires, some panasports instead of those wheels =
on there currently, and turbo 4 or&nbsp;6 cylinder.......<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></blockquote></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Amici...<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">My instructor&nbsp;at the first Driver's School =
I ever attended was a guy named Hal Ulrich.&nbsp; He was an ex-SCCA =
National Champion, and in fact had to be one of the first ever, =
because&nbsp;he raced in all of those early USA sports car races through =
the streets of Elkhart Lake and Watkins Glen.&nbsp; He was a hired hot =
shoe, who drove for 'gentleman' sports car owners.&nbsp; He was a great =
guy, but I drove him crazy because I couldn't double clutch during the =
sessions, and I was wearing out the synchros.&nbsp; He and his brother =
Bill ran a 'speed shop' that, back in the day, catered to Chicago's =
'Gold Coast' (Lake Forest, etc.) folks.&nbsp; His life time experiences =
were full of exotic cars like Aston Martin, Bugatti, =
Excaliber,&nbsp;Ferrari, etc., but he had&nbsp;a special place in his =
heart for Triumphs (especially the TR2 and TR3).&nbsp; He told me that =
in the mid to late 1950s they put tons of Chevy V8 engines in TR2s and =
TR3s.&nbsp; He said they must have done forty or fifty of them.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Hal is dead now, and I am not sure about =
Bill.&nbsp; But these were two extremely interesting guys.&nbsp; When =
they started telling tales, you would end up spell =
bound.&nbsp;&nbsp;Bill's lifetime quest was the&nbsp;process of =
developing his own 'Bugatti-like' engine.&nbsp; Not sure if it ever =
became a physical&nbsp;reality, but I know there was a bunch of people =
interested in it, and being involved financially.&nbsp;&nbsp;One =
story&nbsp;Hal told me was about the time one of his customers bought =
one of the three Bugatti Royales.&nbsp; Hal flew out to New Jersey to =
pick it up, and then drove it back to Chicago.&nbsp; He said =
mechanically it made the trip with no&nbsp;problem whatsoever, except =
that it was the dead of winter, and the car had no heater&nbsp;(at =
least&nbsp;no working heater).&nbsp; Those three Royales&nbsp; are now, =
arguably, the most valuable collector cars in the world.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">I am rambling, but my point was that even back =
in the late 1950s lots of people were modifying TR3s.&nbsp; That's my =
point, my position is, "Shame on them!"<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
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