Subject: Re: [Fot] Synchros

From: Jason Ostrowski via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:06:22 -0500

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If you must for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:
If it looks good and everything seems in order I would use it without doubt.
For whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the most miles out of good
old "barn find" unworked gt6 transmissions.
I've had many of them built by "the best".
Although It seems contrary to our greater "never be beaten by equipment"
philosophy...
The unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (for me) than the
"professionally serviced" new gear (usuallyTR7) and sychro ones.
In my own program, since I have to take them out after every race (Third
gear is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending the $ money on the
gearbox rebuilds and focused more on finding and using several good older
ones.
I can use the gearbox for the same amount of time for much less $.
Since I am struggling to survive in this sport of wealthy kings...
Its nice to SOMETIMES find the cheap way works.

Note: Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for recommending these risky
and absurd transmission choices of using a "barn find" unit. We only do
these things because the trans will break soon anyway.

Cheers!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visually it looks in really
> good shape internally. Am considering doing a refresh with new bearings and
> synchros. I did some reading on the archives and while most of the post are
> from a while ago I get the impression that the synchros made now (or then
> anyhow) were of poor quality and that the original were much better and if
> you didn't need to change them it was best to leave the old one in place.
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marty
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>If you must for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:</div><=
div>If it looks good and everything seems in order I would use it without d=
oubt.</div><div>For whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the most m=
iles out of good old &quot;barn find&quot; unworked gt6 transmissions.</div=
><div>I&#39;ve had many of them built by &quot;the best&quot;.</div><div>Al=
though It seems contrary to our greater &quot;never be beaten by equipment&=
quot; philosophy...</div><div>The unworked original crappy ones have gone l=
onger (for me) than the &quot;professionally serviced&quot; new gear (usual=
lyTR7)=C2=A0and sychro ones.</div><div>In my own program, since I have to t=
ake them out after every race (Third gear is usually all but toasted), I st=
opped spending the $ money on the gearbox rebuilds and focused more on find=
ing and using several good older ones.</div><div>I can use the gearbox for =
the same amount of time for much less $.</div><div>Since I am struggling to=
 survive in this sport of wealthy kings...</div><div>Its nice to SOMETIMES =
find the cheap way works.</div><div><br></div><div>Note: Friendly Ghost Rac=
ing is not responsible for recommending these risky and absurd transmission=
 choices of using a &quot;barn find&quot;=C2=A0unit. We only do these thing=
s because the trans will break soon anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers=
!</div><div>Jason Ostrowski</div><div>Friendly Ghost Racing=C2=A0=C2=A0</di=
v></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, M=
ar 30, 2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visuall=
y it looks in really good shape internally. Am considering=C2=A0doing a ref=
resh with new bearings and synchros. I did some reading on the archives and=
 while most of the post are from a while ago I get the impression that the =
synchros made now (or then anyhow) were of poor quality and that the origin=
al were much better and if you didn&#39;t need to change them it was best t=
o leave=C2=A0the old one in place.=C2=A0 Thoughts?=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0<br>
Thanks,<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
=C2=A0<br>
Marty<br> 		 	   		  </font></span></div></div>
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From: Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:57:44 -0400

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I agree with Jason - spending the $1,000 +/- for an expert rebuild has =
resulted in the same survival rate (not long) as the $50-$100 used ones.
The real cost is in the lost race weekends when the thing blows up on a =
very regular basis.
I run a TR6 box.
Marty, if you are using this for a Spitfire upgrade you are probably =
more than fine, but for a GT6 with a developed engine, my advice is give =
up and move on, or be prepared to make a paddock swap every other =
weekend.

On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot wrote:

If you must for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:
If it looks good and everything seems in order I would use it without =
doubt.
For whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the most miles out of =
good old "barn find" unworked gt6 transmissions.
I've had many of them built by "the best".
Although It seems contrary to our greater "never be beaten by equipment" =
philosophy...
The unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (for me) than the =
"professionally serviced" new gear (usuallyTR7) and sychro ones.
In my own program, since I have to take them out after every race (Third =
gear is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending the $ money on the =
gearbox rebuilds and focused more on finding and using several good =
older ones.
I can use the gearbox for the same amount of time for much less $.
Since I am struggling to survive in this sport of wealthy kings...
Its nice to SOMETIMES find the cheap way works.

Note: Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for recommending these =
risky and absurd transmission choices of using a "barn find" unit. We =
only do these things because the trans will break soon anyway.

Cheers!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing =20

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visually it looks in =
really good shape internally. Am considering doing a refresh with new =
bearings and synchros. I did some reading on the archives and while most =
of the post are from a while ago I get the impression that the synchros =
made now (or then anyhow) were of poor quality and that the original =
were much better and if you didn't need to change them it was best to =
leave the old one in place.  Thoughts?=20
=20
Thanks,
=20
Marty

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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I =
agree with Jason - spending the $1,000 +/- for an expert rebuild has =
resulted in the same survival rate (not long) as the $50-$100 used =
ones.<div>The real cost is in the lost race weekends when the thing =
blows up on a very regular basis.</div><div>I run a TR6 =
box.</div><div>Marty, if you are using this for a Spitfire upgrade you =
are probably more than fine, but for a GT6 with a developed engine, my =
advice is give up and move on, or be prepared to make a paddock swap =
every other weekend.</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:06 =
PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>If you must =
for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:</div><div>If it looks good and =
everything seems in order I would use it without doubt.</div><div>For =
whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the most miles out of good =
old "barn find" unworked gt6 transmissions.</div><div>I've had many of =
them built by "the best".</div><div>Although It seems contrary to our =
greater "never be beaten by equipment" philosophy...</div><div>The =
unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (for me) than the =
"professionally serviced" new gear (usuallyTR7)&nbsp;and sychro =
ones.</div><div>In my own program, since I have to take them out after =
every race (Third gear is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending =
the $ money on the gearbox rebuilds and focused more on finding and =
using several good older ones.</div><div>I can use the gearbox for the =
same amount of time for much less $.</div><div>Since I am struggling to =
survive in this sport of wealthy kings...</div><div>Its nice to =
SOMETIMES find the cheap way works.</div><div><br></div><div>Note: =
Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for recommending these risky =
and absurd transmission choices of using a "barn find"&nbsp;unit. We =
only do these things because the trans will break soon =
anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div>Jason =
Ostrowski</div><div>Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;&nbsp;</div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, =
2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. =
Visually it looks in really good shape internally. Am =
considering&nbsp;doing a refresh with new bearings and synchros. I did =
some reading on the archives and while most of the post are from a while =
ago I get the impression that the synchros made now (or then anyhow) =
were of poor quality and that the original were much better and if you =
didn't need to change them it was best to leave&nbsp;the old one in =
place.&nbsp; Thoughts?&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks,<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
&nbsp;<br>
Marty<br> 		 	   		  =
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From: Vangoughv via Fot <[email-masked]>
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Marty/Jason, I'm having similar experience with my GT6 transmissions.  The s=
pares I haven't had rebuilt have lasted longer oddly enough.  My grandfather=
 always said "don't fix what ain't broke".=20

At some point I'll be adopting a T9 transmission. Just a matter of time and m=
oney...=20

Best of luck
Vince

> On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
> If it looks good and everything seems in order I would use it without doub=
t.
> For whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the most miles out of goo=
d old "barn find" unworked gt6 transmissions.
> Although It seems contrary to our greater "never be beaten by equipment" p=
hilosophy...
> The unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (for me) than the "prof=
essionally serviced" new gear (usuallyTR7) and sychro ones.
> In my own program, since I have to take them out after every race (Third g=
ear is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending the $ money on the gearb=
ox rebuilds and focused more on finding and using several good older ones.
> Note: Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for recommending these risk=
y and absurd transmission choices of using a "barn find" unit. We only do th=
ese things because the trans will break soon anyway.
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>> I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visually it looks in really=
 good shape internally. Am considering doing a refresh with new bearings and=
 synchros. I did some reading on the archives and while most of the post are=
 from a while ago I get the impression that the synchros made now (or then a=
nyhow) were of poor quality and that the original were much better and if yo=
u didn't need to change them it was best to leave the old one in place.  Tho=
ughts?=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Marty/Jason, I'm having similar experi=
ence with my GT6 transmissions. &nbsp;The spares I haven't had rebuilt have l=
asted longer oddly enough. &nbsp;My grandfather always said "don't fix what a=
in't broke".&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>At some point I'll be adopting a=
 T9 transmission. Just a matter of time and money...&nbsp;<br><br>Best of lu=
ck<br>Vince</div><div><br>On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Jason Ostrowski via =
Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>If you=
 must for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:</div><div>If it looks good and ever=
ything seems in order I would use it without doubt.</div><div>For whatever r=
eason, by comparison I have gotten the most miles out of good old "barn find=
" unworked gt6 transmissions.</div><div>I've had many of them built by "the b=
est".</div><div>Although It seems contrary to our greater "never be beaten b=
y equipment" philosophy...</div><div>The unworked original crappy ones have g=
one longer (for me) than the "professionally serviced" new gear (usuallyTR7)=
&nbsp;and sychro ones.</div><div>In my own program, since I have to take the=
m out after every race (Third gear is usually all but toasted), I stopped sp=
ending the $ money on the gearbox rebuilds and focused more on finding and u=
sing several good older ones.</div><div>I can use the gearbox for the same a=
mount of time for much less $.</div><div>Since I am struggling to survive in=
 this sport of wealthy kings...</div><div>Its nice to SOMETIMES find the che=
ap way works.</div><div><br></div><div>Note: Friendly Ghost Racing is not re=
sponsible for recommending these risky and absurd transmission choices of us=
ing a "barn find"&nbsp;unit. We only do these things because the trans will b=
reak soon anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div>Jason Ostrowski=
</div><div>Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:50 AM, marty=
 via Fot <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">

<div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visually=
 it looks in really good shape internally. Am considering&nbsp;doing a refre=
sh with new bearings and synchros. I did some reading on the archives and wh=
ile most of the post are from a while ago I get the impression that the sync=
hros made now (or then anyhow) were of poor quality and that the original we=
re much better and if you didn't need to change them it was best to leave&nb=
sp;the old one in place.&nbsp; Thoughts?&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks,<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
&nbsp;<br>
Marty<br> 		 	   		  </font></span></div></div=
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 18:05:34 +0000

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WARNING:  What follows on the present thread is the annual "Gearboxes" disc=
ussion.  Allow me to paraphrase and summarize:

[Please, please, please read this in the fondly amused spirit in which it w=
as offered.  I can't put in enough winky-faces to assure you all that this =
is not intended to be snotty or divisive...]

[poster #1]  Hey, my stock gearboxes stink and they blow up all the time.  =
What do you guys know about installing a [Datsun/Toyota/Hewland/Allison] tr=
ansmission in place of the cranky old stock stuff?

[poster #2]  Well, we know they work better, but might be in violation of t=
he rules of your sanctioning body, and are not really in the vintage spirit=
.

[poster #1]  Yeah, but my gearbox is always broken, and sitting on the trai=
ler is not really in the vintage spirit either.

[poster #2]  Well maybe you shouldn't have installed that [high-compression=
 head/weber carbs/supercharger/turbo/nitrous] and giant brakes on your obvi=
ous cheater-mobile.

[Joe Alexander]  Hey guys, why can't we all just get along.  We're all havi=
ng fun in our own ways and who the heck cares if someone else enjoys making=
 their car faster than it was when it was new.  Isn't that arguably as legi=
timate a pursuit as the piloting of an era-correct car as fast as it can go=
 in its era-correct state?

[poster #1 and poster #2]  Yeah, I suppose that's right.  There's room for =
everyone in this sport, from the person who likes to run their era-correct =
car and replace the trans every weekend, to the person who just likes to se=
e how fast they can make these old crocks go, using everything that's been =
made and learned over the last 60 years.  [hugs all around]

Scott B. (unless you think I'm being snotty and divisive, in which case, my=
 name is Philbin Potsticker, and I drive an MG TC.  In Ecuador.)

From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via=
 Fot
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:58 AM
To: Jason Ostrowski
Cc: FOT
Subject: Re: [Fot] Synchros

I agree with Jason - spending the $1,000 +/- for an expert rebuild has resu=
lted in the same survival rate (not long) as the $50-$100 used ones.
The real cost is in the lost race weekends when the thing blows up on a ver=
y regular basis.
I run a TR6 box.
Marty, if you are using this for a Spitfire upgrade you are probably more t=
han fine, but for a GT6 with a developed engine, my advice is give up and m=
ove on, or be prepared to make a paddock swap every other weekend.

If you must for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:
If it looks good and everything seems in order I would use it without doubt=
.
For whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the most miles out of good=
 old "barn find" unworked gt6 transmissions.
I've had many of them built by "the best".
Although It seems contrary to our greater "never be beaten by equipment" ph=
ilosophy...
The unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (for me) than the "profe=
ssionally serviced" new gear (usuallyTR7) and sychro ones.
In my own program, since I have to take them out after every race (Third ge=
ar is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending the $ money on the gearb=
ox rebuilds and focused more on finding and using several good older ones.
I can use the gearbox for the same amount of time for much less $.
Since I am struggling to survive in this sport of wealthy kings...
Its nice to SOMETIMES find the cheap way works.

Note: Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for recommending these risky=
 and absurd transmission choices of using a "barn find" unit. We only do th=
ese things because the trans will break soon anyway.

Cheers!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

[email-masked]>> wrote:
I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visually it looks in really g=
ood shape internally. Am considering doing a refresh with new bearings and =
synchros. I did some reading on the archives and while most of the post are=
 from a while ago I get the impression that the synchros made now (or then =
anyhow) were of poor quality and that the original were much better and if =
you didn't need to change them it was best to leave the old one in place.  =
Thoughts?

Thanks,

Marty

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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esent thread is the annual &#8220;Gearboxes&#8221; discussion.&nbsp; Allow =
me to paraphrase and summarize:<br>
<br>
[Please, please, please read this in the fondly amused spirit in which it w=
as offered.&nbsp; I can&#8217;t put in enough winky-faces to assure you all=
 that this is not intended to be snotty or divisive&#8230;]<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[poster #1] &nbsp;Hey, my stock gearb=
oxes stink and they blow up all the time.&nbsp; What do you guys know about=
 installing a [Datsun/Toyota/Hewland/Allison] transmission
 in place of the cranky old stock stuff?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[poster #2] &nbsp;Well, we know they =
work better, but might be in violation of the rules of your sanctioning bod=
y, and are not really in the vintage spirit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[poster #1]&nbsp; Yeah, but my gearbo=
x is always broken, and sitting on the trailer is not really in the vintage=
 spirit either.&nbsp;
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[poster #2]&nbsp; Well maybe you shou=
ldn&#8217;t have installed that [high-compression head/weber carbs/supercha=
rger/turbo/nitrous] and giant brakes on your obvious cheater-mobile.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[Joe Alexander]&nbsp; Hey guys, why c=
an&#8217;t we all just get along.&nbsp; We&#8217;re all having fun in our o=
wn ways and who the heck cares if someone else enjoys making their car
 faster than it was when it was new.&nbsp; Isn&#8217;t that arguably as leg=
itimate a pursuit as the piloting of an era-correct car as fast as it can g=
o in its era-correct state?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[poster #1 and poster #2]&nbsp; Yeah,=
 I suppose that&#8217;s right.&nbsp; There&#8217;s room for everyone in thi=
s sport, from the person who likes to run their era-correct car and
 replace the trans every weekend, to the person who just likes to see how f=
ast they can make these old crocks go, using everything that&#8217;s been m=
ade and learned over the last 60 years.&nbsp; [hugs all around]<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Scott B. (unless you think I&#8217;m =
being snotty and divisive, in which case, my name is Philbin Potsticker, an=
d I drive an MG TC.&nbsp; In Ecuador.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.=
team.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Janzen via Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jason Ostrowski<br>
<b>Cc:</b> FOT<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Synchros<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I agree with Jason - spending the $1,000 &#43;/- for=
 an expert rebuild has resulted in the same survival rate (not long) as the=
 $50-$100 used ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The real cost is in the lost race weekends when the =
thing blows up on a very regular basis.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I run a TR6 box.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Marty, if you are using this for a Spitfire upgrade =
you are probably more than fine, but for a GT6 with a developed engine, my =
advice is give up and move on, or be prepared to make a paddock swap every =
other weekend.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fo=
t wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you must for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If it looks good and everything seems in order I wou=
ld use it without doubt.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">For whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the=
 most miles out of good old &quot;barn find&quot; unworked gt6 transmission=
s.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I've had many of them built by &quot;the best&quot;.=
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Although It seems contrary to our greater &quot;neve=
r be beaten by equipment&quot; philosophy...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (=
for me) than the &quot;professionally serviced&quot; new gear (usuallyTR7)&=
nbsp;and sychro ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In my own program, since I have to take them out aft=
er every race (Third gear is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending t=
he $ money on the gearbox rebuilds and focused more on finding and using se=
veral good older ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can use the gearbox for the same amount of time fo=
r much less $.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Since I am struggling to survive in this sport of we=
althy kings...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Its nice to SOMETIMES find the cheap way works.<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Note: Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for r=
ecommending these risky and absurd transmission choices of using a &quot;ba=
rn find&quot;&nbsp;unit. We only do these things because the trans will bre=
ak soon anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers!<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jason Ostrowski<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visual=
ly it looks in really good shape internally. Am considering&nbsp;doing a re=
fresh with new bearings and synchros. I did some reading on the archives an=
d while most of the post are from a while
 ago I get the impression that the synchros made now (or then anyhow) were =
of poor quality and that the original were much better and if you didn't ne=
ed to change them it was best to leave&nbsp;the old one in place.&nbsp; Tho=
ughts?&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks,<span style=3D"color:#888888"><br>
<span class=3D"hoenzb">&nbsp;</span><br>
<span class=3D"hoenzb">Marty</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Jhouathome via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:43:40 -0500

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Well put, Scott!
John

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 31, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>=20
> WARNING:  What follows on the present thread is the annual =E2=80=9CGearbo=
> [Please, please, please read this in the fondly amused spirit in which it w=
as offered.  I can=E2=80=99t put in enough winky-faces to assure you all tha=
t this is not intended to be snotty or divisive=E2=80=A6]
> [poster #2]  Well, we know they work better, but might be in violation of t=
he rules of your sanctioning body, and are not really in the vintage spirit.=

> =20
> [poster #1]  Yeah, but my gearbox is always broken, and sitting on the tra=
iler is not really in the vintage spirit either. =20
>=20
> [poster #2]  Well maybe you shouldn=E2=80=99t have installed that [high-co=
mpression head/weber carbs/supercharger/turbo/nitrous] and giant brakes on y=
our obvious cheater-mobile.
> =20
> [Joe Alexander]  Hey guys, why can=E2=80=99t we all just get along.  We=E2=
=80=99re all having fun in our own ways and who the heck cares if someone el=
se enjoys making their car faster than it was when it was new.  Isn=E2=80=99=
t that arguably as legitimate a pursuit as the piloting of an era-correct ca=
r as fast as it can go in its era-correct state?
> =20
> [poster #1 and poster #2]  Yeah, I suppose that=E2=80=99s right.  There=E2=
=80=99s room for everyone in this sport, from the person who likes to run th=
eir era-correct car and replace the trans every weekend, to the person who j=
ust likes to see how fast they can make these old crocks go, using everythin=
g that=E2=80=99s been made and learned over the last 60 years.  [hugs all ar=
ound]
> =20
> =20
> Scott B. (unless you think I=E2=80=99m being snotty and divisive, in which=
 case, my name is Philbin Potsticker, and I drive an MG TC.  In Ecuador.)
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen vi=
a Fot
> I agree with Jason - spending the $1,000 +/- for an expert rebuild has res=
ulted in the same survival rate (not long) as the $50-$100 used ones.
> The real cost is in the lost race weekends when the thing blows up on a ve=
ry regular basis.
> Marty, if you are using this for a Spitfire upgrade you are probably more t=
han fine, but for a GT6 with a developed engine, my advice is give up and mo=
ve on, or be prepared to make a paddock swap every other weekend.
t.
hilosophy...
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:=

> I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visually it looks in really g=
ood shape internally. Am considering doing a refresh with new bearings and s=
ynchros. I did some reading on the archives and while most of the post are f=
rom a while ago I get the impression that the synchros made now (or then any=
how) were of poor quality and that the original were much better and if you d=
idn't need to change them it was best to leave the old one in place.  Though=
ts?=20
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multiv=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Well put, Scott!</div><div>John<br><br=
>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Mar 31, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Barr, Scott vi=
a Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>

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<div class=3D"WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">WARNING:&nbsp; What follows on the pres=
ent thread is the annual =E2=80=9CGearboxes=E2=80=9D discussion.&nbsp; Allow=
 me to paraphrase and summarize:<br>
<br>
[Please, please, please read this in the fondly amused spirit in which it wa=
s offered.&nbsp; I can=E2=80=99t put in enough winky-faces to assure you all=
 that this is not intended to be snotty or divisive=E2=80=A6]<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[poster #1] &nbsp;Hey, my stock gearbox=
es stink and they blow up all the time.&nbsp; What do you guys know about in=
stalling a [Datsun/Toyota/Hewland/Allison] transmission
 in place of the cranky old stock stuff?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[poster #2] &nbsp;Well, we know they wo=
rk better, but might be in violation of the rules of your sanctioning body, a=
nd are not really in the vintage spirit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[poster #1]&nbsp; Yeah, but my gearbox i=
s always broken, and sitting on the trailer is not really in the vintage spi=
rit either.&nbsp;
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[poster #2]&nbsp; Well maybe you should=
n=E2=80=99t have installed that [high-compression head/weber carbs/superchar=
ger/turbo/nitrous] and giant brakes on your obvious cheater-mobile.<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[Joe Alexander]&nbsp; Hey guys, why can=
=E2=80=99t we all just get along.&nbsp; We=E2=80=99re all having fun in our o=
wn ways and who the heck cares if someone else enjoys making their car
 faster than it was when it was new.&nbsp; Isn=E2=80=99t that arguably as le=
gitimate a pursuit as the piloting of an era-correct car as fast as it can g=
o in its era-correct state?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[poster #1 and poster #2]&nbsp; Yeah, I=
 suppose that=E2=80=99s right.&nbsp; There=E2=80=99s room for everyone in th=
is sport, from the person who likes to run their era-correct car and
 replace the trans every weekend, to the person who just likes to see how fa=
st they can make these old crocks go, using everything that=E2=80=99s been m=
ade and learned over the last 60 years.&nbsp; [hugs all around]<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Scott B. (unless you think I=E2=80=99m b=
eing snotty and divisive, in which case, my name is Philbin Potsticker, and I=
 drive an MG TC.&nbsp; In Ecuador.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounce=
[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Janzen via Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jason Ostrowski<br>
<b>Cc:</b> FOT<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Synchros<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I agree with Jason - spending the $1,000 +/- for an e=
xpert rebuild has resulted in the same survival rate (not long) as the $50-$=
100 used ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The real cost is in the lost race weekends when the t=
hing blows up on a very regular basis.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I run a TR6 box.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Marty, if you are using this for a Spitfire upgrade y=
ou are probably more than fine, but for a GT6 with a developed engine, my ad=
vice is give up and move on, or be prepared to make a paddock swap every oth=
er weekend.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you must for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:<o:p></=
o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If it looks good and everything seems in order I woul=
d use it without doubt.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">For whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the m=
ost miles out of good old "barn find" unworked gt6 transmissions.<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I've had many of them built by "the best".<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Although It seems contrary to our greater "never be b=
eaten by equipment" philosophy...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (f=
or me) than the "professionally serviced" new gear (usuallyTR7)&nbsp;and syc=
hro ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In my own program, since I have to take them out afte=
r every race (Third gear is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending the=
 $ money on the gearbox rebuilds and focused more on finding and using sever=
al good older ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can use the gearbox for the same amount of time for=
 much less $.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Since I am struggling to survive in this sport of wea=
lthy kings...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Its nice to SOMETIMES find the cheap way works.<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Note: Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for re=
commending these risky and absurd transmission choices of using a "barn find=
"&nbsp;unit. We only do these things because the trans will break soon anywa=
y.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers!<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jason Ostrowski<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visuall=
y it looks in really good shape internally. Am considering&nbsp;doing a refr=
esh with new bearings and synchros. I did some reading on the archives and w=
hile most of the post are from a while
 ago I get the impression that the synchros made now (or then anyhow) were o=
f poor quality and that the original were much better and if you didn't need=
 to change them it was best to leave&nbsp;the old one in place.&nbsp; Though=
ts?&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks,<span style=3D"color:#888888"><br>
<span class=3D"hoenzb">&nbsp;</span><br>
<span class=3D"hoenzb">Marty</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Scott,I was fondly amused  ;~)
   John

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Synchros

WARNING:  What follows on the present thread is the annual =93Gearboxes=94 =
discussion.  Allow me to paraphrase and summarize:

[Please, please, please read this in the fondly amused spirit in which it w=
as offered.  I can=92t put in enough winky-faces to assure you all that thi=
s is not intended to be snotty or divisive=85]

[poster #2]  Well, we know they work better, but might be in violation of t=
he rules of your sanctioning body, and are not really in the vintage spirit.

[poster #2]  Well maybe you shouldn=92t have installed that [high-compressi=
on head/weber carbs/supercharger/turbo/nitrous] and giant brakes on your ob=
vious cheater-mobile.

[Joe Alexander]  Hey guys, why can=92t we all just get along.  We=92re all =
having fun in our own ways and who the heck cares if someone else enjoys ma=
king their car faster than it was when it was new.  Isn=92t that arguably a=
s legitimate a pursuit as the piloting of an era-correct car as fast as it =
can go in its era-correct state?

[poster #1 and poster #2]  Yeah, I suppose that=92s right.  There=92s room =
for everyone in this sport, from the person who likes to run their era-corr=
ect car and replace the trans every weekend, to the person who just likes t=
o see how fast they can make these old crocks go, using everything that=92s=
 been made and learned over the last 60 years.  [hugs all around]

Scott B. (unless you think I=92m being snotty and divisive, in which case, =
my name is Philbin Potsticker, and I drive an MG TC.  In Ecuador.)

Cheers!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing

Thanks,

Marty

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">WARNING:&nbsp; What follows on the=
 present thread is the annual =93Gearboxes=94 discussion.&nbsp; Allow me to=
 paraphrase and summarize:<br>
<br>
[Please, please, please read this in the fondly amused spirit in which it w=
as offered.&nbsp; I can=92t put in enough winky-faces to assure you all tha=
t this is not intended to be snotty or divisive=85]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
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out installing a [Datsun/Toyota/Hewland/Allison]
 transmission in place of the cranky old stock stuff?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ey work better, but might be in violation of the rules of your sanctioning =
body, and are not really in the vintage spirit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
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rbox is always broken, and sitting on the trailer is not really in the vint=
age spirit either.&nbsp;
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 obvious cheater-mobile.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ys and who the heck cares if someone else enjoys making
 their car faster than it was when it was new.&nbsp; Isn=92t that arguably =
as legitimate a pursuit as the piloting of an era-correct car as fast as it=
 can go in its era-correct state?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">[poster #1 and poster #2]&nbsp; Ye=
ah, I suppose that=92s right.&nbsp; There=92s room for everyone in this spo=
rt, from the person who likes to run their era-correct
 car and replace the trans every weekend, to the person who just likes to s=
ee how fast they can make these old crocks go, using everything that=92s be=
en made and learned over the last 60 years.&nbsp; [hugs all around]<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
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25); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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25); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Scott B. (unless you think I=92m b=
eing snotty and divisive, in which case, my name is Philbin Potsticker, and=
 I drive an MG TC.&nbsp; In Ecuador.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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25); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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25); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cali=
bri, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-fam=
ily: Calibri, sans-serif; "> Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Janzen via Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jason Ostrowski<br>
<b>Cc:</b> FOT<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Synchros<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I agree with Jason - spending the $1,000 &#43;/- for=
 an expert rebuild has resulted in the same survival rate (not long) as the=
 $50-$100 used ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The real cost is in the lost race weekends when the =
thing blows up on a very regular basis.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I run a TR6 box.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Marty, if you are using this for a Spitfire upgrade =
you are probably more than fine, but for a GT6 with a developed engine, my =
advice is give up and move on, or be prepared to make a paddock swap every =
other weekend.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fo=
t wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you must for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If it looks good and everything seems in order I wou=
ld use it without doubt.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">For whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the=
 most miles out of good old &quot;barn find&quot; unworked gt6 transmission=
s.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I've had many of them built by &quot;the best&quot;.=
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Although It seems contrary to our greater &quot;neve=
r be beaten by equipment&quot; philosophy...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (=
for me) than the &quot;professionally serviced&quot; new gear (usuallyTR7)&=
nbsp;and sychro ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In my own program, since I have to take them out aft=
er every race (Third gear is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending t=
he $ money on the gearbox rebuilds and focused more on finding and using se=
veral good older ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can use the gearbox for the same amount of time fo=
r much less $.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Since I am struggling to survive in this sport of we=
althy kings...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Its nice to SOMETIMES find the cheap way works.<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Note: Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for r=
ecommending these risky and absurd transmission choices of using a &quot;ba=
rn find&quot;&nbsp;unit. We only do these things because the trans will bre=
ak soon anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers!<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jason Ostrowski<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visual=
ly it looks in really good shape internally. Am considering&nbsp;doing a re=
fresh with new bearings and synchros. I did some reading on the archives an=
d while most of the post are from a while
 ago I get the impression that the synchros made now (or then anyhow) were =
of poor quality and that the original were much better and if you didn't ne=
ed to change them it was best to leave&nbsp;the old one in place.&nbsp; Tho=
ughts?&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks,<span style=3D"color:#888888"><br>
<span class=3D"hoenzb">&nbsp;</span><br>
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From: Jerry Barr via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:55:07 -0500

I think that Corvette 5 speed you are using in the Spitfire is well within the vintage spirit. 

> On Mar 31, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> WARNING:  What follows on the present thread is the annual “Gearboxes” discussion.  Allow me to paraphrase and summarize:
> 
> [Please, please, please read this in the fondly amused spirit in which it was offered.  I can’t put in enough winky-faces to assure you all that this is not intended to be snotty or divisive…]
>  
> [poster #1]  Hey, my stock gearboxes stink and they blow up all the time.  What do you guys know about installing a [Datsun/Toyota/Hewland/Allison] transmission in place of the cranky old stock stuff?
>  
> [poster #2]  Well, we know they work better, but might be in violation of the rules of your sanctioning body, and are not really in the vintage spirit.
>  
> [poster #1]  Yeah, but my gearbox is always broken, and sitting on the trailer is not really in the vintage spirit either.  
> 
> [poster #2]  Well maybe you shouldn’t have installed that [high-compression head/weber carbs/supercharger/turbo/nitrous] and giant brakes on your obvious cheater-mobile.
>  
> [Joe Alexander]  Hey guys, why can’t we all just get along.  We’re all having fun in our own ways and who the heck cares if someone else enjoys making their car faster than it was when it was new.  Isn’t that arguably as legitimate a pursuit as the piloting of an era-correct car as fast as it can go in its era-correct state?
>  
> [poster #1 and poster #2]  Yeah, I suppose that’s right.  There’s room for everyone in this sport, from the person who likes to run their era-correct car and replace the trans every weekend, to the person who just likes to see how fast they can make these old crocks go, using everything that’s been made and learned over the last 60 years.  [hugs all around]
>  
>  
> Scott B. (unless you think I’m being snotty and divisive, in which case, my name is Philbin Potsticker, and I drive an MG TC.  In Ecuador.)
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
> I agree with Jason - spending the $1,000 +/- for an expert rebuild has resulted in the same survival rate (not long) as the $50-$100 used ones.
> The real cost is in the lost race weekends when the thing blows up on a very regular basis.
> I run a TR6 box.
> Marty, if you are using this for a Spitfire upgrade you are probably more than fine, but for a GT6 with a developed engine, my advice is give up and move on, or be prepared to make a paddock swap every other weekend.
>  
> For whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the most miles out of good old "barn find" unworked gt6 transmissions.
> Although It seems contrary to our greater "never be beaten by equipment" philosophy...
> The unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (for me) than the "professionally serviced" new gear (usuallyTR7) and sychro ones.
> In my own program, since I have to take them out after every race (Third gear is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending the $ money on the gearbox rebuilds and focused more on finding and using several good older ones.
> Note: Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for recommending these risky and absurd transmission choices of using a "barn find" unit. We only do these things because the trans will break soon anyway.
>  
> Cheers!
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing  
>  
> I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visually it looks in really good shape internally. Am considering doing a refresh with new bearings and synchros. I did some reading on the archives and while most of the post are from a while ago I get the impression that the synchros made now (or then anyhow) were of poor quality and that the original were much better and if you didn't need to change them it was best to leave the old one in place.  Thoughts? 
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> Thanks,
>  
> Marty
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I=E2=80=99m in two of the four camps. I don=E2=80=99t run unmodified =
junk transmissions and I don=E2=80=99t have a Toyota five speed =
installed (though I do have one sitting around, tanned, rested and =
ready). I have a TR6 transmission that Hardy Prentice did for me that =
seems bulletproof. Real triumph guts, shifts like it has some kind of =
electronic assist and looks fine whenever I open it up to check it. =
It=E2=80=99s been out of Peyote for a while though, I don=E2=80=99t like =
to tear it up. Instead I use quaife dog boxes in TR6 cases. Not a cheap =
solution, and they eventually need work, but they take the pounding I =
give them without complaint.=20

I think =E2=80=9CVintage Spirit=E2=80=9D is a ship that sailed a long =
time ago. We don=E2=80=99t see megabuck Ferraris at our races very =
often=E2=80=94now it=E2=80=99s because they=E2=80=99ve become toys for =
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