Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 10" brake question

From: Bill Tobin via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 19:48:16 -0400

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Hi Don, been there, done that with my TR6. The shoe linings are too =
bloody thick.
You can turn the drums but why waste good material in the drums.
I can't find anyone to cam grind the linings like shops used to do. Some =
called it arc grinding.
One trick that Uncle Ted taught me: grind a small amount of material off =
the metal brake shoe end where it contacts the wheel cylinder and the =
brake adjuster. (I'm not sure what your shoes look like; I'm assuming =
that they are similar to mine) This will bring the shoes slightly closer =
together.
I've run into this problem with several different suppliers.
Good luck, Bill
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Don Marshall via Fot=20
  To: Friends of Triumph=20
  Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 6:04 PM
  Subject: [Fot] TR3 10" brake question

  My '57 TR3 (street car) has Girling 10" drums on the rear.=C2  The new =
shoes I just got are too thick for the drums to fit over them.=C2  Based =
on the TR3 shop manual I'm putting them on correctly.=C2  Has anyone =
else experienced this with new shoes?=C2  I guess I can either sand the =
shoes down or have the drums turned enough to make them fit. This is a =
very low mileage car so there's plenty of meat in the drums.=C2  If =
there's better answer I'd like to know what it is.=C2  Thanks, Don=C2=20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi Don, been there, done that with my =
TR6. The shoe=20
linings&nbsp;are too bloody thick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>You can turn the drums but why waste =
good material=20
in the drums.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I can't find anyone to cam grind the =
linings like=20
shops used to do. Some called it arc grinding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>One trick that Uncle Ted taught me: =
grind a small=20
amount of material off the metal brake shoe end where it contacts the =
wheel=20
cylinder and the brake adjuster. (I'm not sure what your shoes look =
like; I'm=20
assuming that they are similar to mine) This will bring the shoes =
slightly=20
closer together.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I've run into this problem with several =
different=20
suppliers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Good luck, Bill</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr>My '57 TR3 (street car) has Girling 10" drums on the =
rear.=C2&nbsp;=20
  The new shoes I just got are too thick for the drums to fit over =
them.=C2&nbsp;=20
  Based on the TR3 shop manual I'm putting them on correctly.=C2&nbsp; =
Has anyone=20
  else experienced this with new shoes?=C2&nbsp; I guess I can either =
sand the=20
  shoes down or have the drums turned enough to make them fit. This is a =
very=20
  low mileage car so there's plenty of meat in the drums.=C2&nbsp; If =
there's=20
  better answer I'd like to know what it is.=C2&nbsp; Thanks, =
Don=C2&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: SCOTT JANZEN via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 22:00:05 -0400

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Porterfield will reline your brake shoes to whatever radius you tell them.

Sent from my mobile device=20

> On Mar 19, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Bill Tobin via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> Hi Don, been there, done that with my TR6. The shoe linings are too bloody=
 thick.
> I can't find anyone to cam grind the linings like shops used to do. Some c=
alled it arc grinding.
> One trick that Uncle Ted taught me: grind a small amount of material off t=
he metal brake shoe end where it contacts the wheel cylinder and the brake a=
djuster. (I'm not sure what your shoes look like; I'm assuming that they are=
 similar to mine) This will bring the shoes slightly closer together.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Marshall via Fot
> To: Friends of Triumph
>=20
> My '57 TR3 (street car) has Girling 10" drums on the rear.=C3=82  The new s=
hoes I just got are too thick for the drums to fit over them.=C3=82  Based o=
n the TR3 shop manual I'm putting them on correctly.=C3=82  Has anyone else e=
xperienced this with new shoes?=C3=82  I guess I can either sand the shoes d=
own or have the drums turned enough to make them fit. This is a very low mil=
eage car so there's plenty of meat in the drums.=C3=82  If there's better an=
swer I'd like to know what it is.=C3=82  Thanks, Don=C3=82=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Porterfield will reline your brake sho=
es to whatever radius you tell them.<br><br>Sent from my mobile device&nbsp;=
</div><div><br>On Mar 19, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Bill Tobin via Fot &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Hi Don, been there, done that with my T=
R6. The shoe=20
linings&nbsp;are too bloody thick.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">You can turn the drums but why waste go=
od material=20
in the drums.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I can't find anyone to cam grind the li=
nings like=20
shops used to do. Some called it arc grinding.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">One trick that Uncle Ted taught me: gri=
nd a small=20
amount of material off the metal brake shoe end where it contacts the wheel=20=

cylinder and the brake adjuster. (I'm not sure what your shoes look like; I'=
m=20
assuming that they are similar to mine) This will bring the shoes slightly=20=

closer together.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I've run into this problem with several=
 different=20
suppliers.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Good luck, Bill</font></div>
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  <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Don Mar=
shall via=20
  Fot</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]"=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Friends of Triumph</a> </div>
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  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] TR3 10" brake=20
  question</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">My '57 TR3 (street car) has Girling 10" drums on the rear=
.=C3=82&nbsp;=20
  The new shoes I just got are too thick for the drums to fit over them.=C3=82=
&nbsp;=20
  Based on the TR3 shop manual I'm putting them on correctly.=C3=82&nbsp; Ha=
s anyone=20
  else experienced this with new shoes?=C3=82&nbsp; I guess I can either san=
d the=20
  shoes down or have the drums turned enough to make them fit. This is a ver=
y=20
  low mileage car so there's plenty of meat in the drums.=C3=82&nbsp; If the=
re's=20
  better answer I'd like to know what it is.=C3=82&nbsp; Thanks, Don=C3=82&n=
bsp;</div>
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From: Matt Bakes via Fot <[email-masked]>
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It is a constant problem in the shop. It never used to be but any more you
almost have to assume that there will be to much material on the brake shoe
and it will have to be removed.

Matt

Triumph Rescue
617 Walnut St.
Bally, Pa. 19503
610-845-8217
www.triumphrescue.com

British Wiring
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www.BritishWiring.com <http://www.britishwiring.com/>

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:00 PM, SCOTT JANZEN via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Porterfield will reline your brake shoes to whatever radius you tell them=
.
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> On Mar 19, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Bill Tobin via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Don, been there, done that with my TR6. The shoe linings are too blood=
y
> I can't find anyone to cam grind the linings like shops used to do. Some
> called it arc grinding.
> One trick that Uncle Ted taught me: grind a small amount of material off
> the metal brake shoe end where it contacts the wheel cylinder and the bra=
ke
> adjuster. (I'm not sure what your shoes look like; I'm assuming that they
> are similar to mine) This will bring the shoes slightly closer together.
> *From:* Don Marshall via Fot <[email-masked]>
> *To:* Friends of Triumph <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 6:04 PM
> *Subject:* [Fot] TR3 10" brake question
>
> My '57 TR3 (street car) has Girling 10" drums on the rear.=C3=82  The new=
 shoes
> I just got are too thick for the drums to fit over them.=C3=82  Based on =
the TR3
> shop manual I'm putting them on correctly.=C3=82  Has anyone else experie=
nced
> this with new shoes?=C3=82  I guess I can either sand the shoes down or h=
ave the
> drums turned enough to make them fit. This is a very low mileage car so
> there's plenty of meat in the drums.=C3=82  If there's better answer I'd =
like to
> know what it is.=C3=82  Thanks, Don=C3=82
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>It is a constant problem in the shop. It never used t=
o be but any more you almost have to assume that there will be to much mate=
rial on the brake shoe and it will have to be removed. </div><div><br></div=
><div>Matt=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font lang=3D"0" face=3D"Arial">Triumph Rescue<br>617 Walnut St.<br>Ba=
lly, Pa. 19503<br>610-845-8217<br><a href=3D"http://www.triumphrescue.com/"=
 target=3D"_blank">www.triumphrescue.com</a><br><br>British Wiring<br>617 W=
alnut St.<br>P.O. Box 185<br>Bally, Pa. 19503<br><a href=3D"http://www.brit=
ishwiring.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.BritishWiring.com</a> </font></div></=
div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:00 PM, SCOTT JANZ=
EN via Fot <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Porterfield will reline your brake sho=
es to whatever radius you tell them.<br><br>Sent from my mobile device=C2=
=A0</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On Mar 19, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Bill =
Tobin via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">f=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v>

<div><font face=3D"Arial">Hi Don, been there, done that with my TR6. The sh=
oe=20
linings=C2=A0are too bloody thick.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">You can turn the drums but why waste good materia=
l=20
in the drums.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">I can&#39;t find anyone to cam grind the linings =
like=20
shops used to do. Some called it arc grinding.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">One trick that Uncle Ted taught me: grind a small=
=20
amount of material off the metal brake shoe end where it contacts the wheel=
=20
cylinder and the brake adjuster. (I&#39;m not sure what your shoes look lik=
e; I&#39;m=20
assuming that they are similar to mine) This will bring the shoes slightly=
=20
closer together.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">I&#39;ve run into this problem with several diffe=
rent=20
suppliers.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Good luck, Bill</font></div>
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e-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>From:</b>=20
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  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
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  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal"><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] TR3 10&quot; brake=20
  question</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">My &#39;57 TR3 (street car) has Girling 10&quot; drums o=
n the rear.=C3=82=C2=A0=20
  The new shoes I just got are too thick for the drums to fit over them.=C3=
=82=C2=A0=20
  Based on the TR3 shop manual I&#39;m putting them on correctly.=C3=82=C2=
=A0 Has anyone=20
  else experienced this with new shoes?=C3=82=C2=A0 I guess I can either sa=
nd the=20
  shoes down or have the drums turned enough to make them fit. This is a ve=
ry=20
  low mileage car so there&#39;s plenty of meat in the drums.=C3=82=C2=A0 I=
f there&#39;s=20
  better answer I&#39;d like to know what it is.=C3=82=C2=A0 Thanks, Don=C3=
=82=C2=A0</div>
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