Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 side diff seals

From: Greg And Alison Blake via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 07:15:32 -0600

Ok ok, "easy" was a poor choice of wording on my part but no one answered the question. 

NAPA or CR part number?  Anyone?

While your Looking in your notes, the pinion seal number too please. 

Thanks,

Greg

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> Not sure what you call them. Anyone have a NAPA seal number for the seals for the stub axle flanges on the side of the IRS diff. There is one seal for each side of the diff. I got a TR6 diff on the shop floor that is leaking all over. Figured I'd replace them while it's easy. 
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 10:58:44 -0600

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Perfect. Thank you.=20

This is a SKF 16054 according to CR website. =20

> On Mar 5, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Jack Wheeler <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> The seals I used were brand name Apax, part number S5311.  I can't remembe=
r where I got them (Moss or The Roadster Factory?), but perhaps Napa could c=
ross reference this number to something that they have.
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or the stub axle flanges on the side of the IRS diff. There is one seal for e=
ach side of the diff. I got a TR6 diff on the shop floor that is leaking all=
 over. Figured I'd replace them while it's easy.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Perfect. Thank you.&nbsp;</div><div><b=
r></div><div>This is a SKF 16054 according to CR website. &nbsp;<br><br><br>=
</div><div><br>On Mar 5, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Jack Wheeler &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#=
fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Gra=
nde, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1425561467753_4438" d=
ir=3D"ltr">The seals I used were brand name Apax, part number S5311.&nbsp; I=
 can't remember where I got them (Moss or The Roadster Factory?), but perhap=
s Napa could cross reference this number to something that they have.</div><=
div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1425561467753_4439"><br><span></span></div><div id=3D=
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25561467753_4445" class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>Not sure what you call them.=
 Anyone have a NAPA seal number for the seals for the stub axle flanges on t=
he side of the IRS diff. There is one seal for each side of the diff. I got a=
 TR6 diff on the shop floor that is leaking all over. Figured I'd replace th=
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From: Glenn Franco via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:52:45 -0500

I have the National Part Number for the Pinion Seal but its in the shop. 
I will have to retrieve it and send it on to you. Napa can cross reference.

As far as the side seals, I have only used the ones from the big 3. I 
avoid these whenever I can as I have bent pullers, and hubs trying to 
get these off. We have  tried heat, impacts and no luck.

The only success I have had is with a bearing splitter and a 50 ton 
press. You get a loud boom when they come apart. I generally use a 
cushion, like a full trash can, below the press to catch the flying parts.

If anyone has a easier way to get these off please advise.

Glenn

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From: Kas Kastner via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 15:03:48 -0800

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The terrible thing is that press explosion is the same now as sixty years
ago.

*Never be beaten by equipment.*

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Glenn Franco via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> I have the National Part Number for the Pinion Seal but its in the shop. I
> will have to retrieve it and send it on to you. Napa can cross reference.
>
> avoid these whenever I can as I have bent pullers, and hubs trying to get
> these off. We have  tried heat, impacts and no luck.
>
> The only success I have had is with a bearing splitter and a 50 ton press.
> You get a loud boom when they come apart. I generally use a cushion, like a
> full trash can, below the press to catch the flying parts.
>
>> Not sure what you call them. Anyone have a NAPA seal number for the seals
>> for the stub axle flanges on the side of the IRS diff. There is one seal
>> for each side of the diff. I got a TR6 diff on the shop floor that is
>> leaking all over. Figured I'd replace them while it's easy.
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The terrible thing is that press explosion is the same now=
 as sixty years ago.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div=
><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><p><strong><font color=3D"#000099">Never be=
 beaten by equipment.</font></strong></p></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Glenn Franco=
 via Fot <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">I have the National Part Number for the Pinion Seal but its i=
n the shop. I will have to retrieve it and send it on to you. Napa can cros=
s reference.<br>
<br>
As far as the side seals, I have only used the ones from the big 3. I avoid=
 these whenever I can as I have bent pullers, and hubs trying to get these =
off. We have=C2=A0 tried heat, impacts and no luck.<br>
<br>
The only success I have had is with a bearing splitter and a 50 ton press. =
You get a loud boom when they come apart. I generally use a cushion, like a=
 full trash can, below the press to catch the flying parts.<br>
<br>
If anyone has a easier way to get these off please advise.<br>
<br>
Glenn<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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eft-style:solid">
Not sure what you call them. Anyone have a NAPA seal number for the seals f=
or the stub axle flanges on the side of the IRS diff. There is one seal for=
 each side of the diff. I got a TR6 diff on the shop floor that is leaking =
all over. Figured I&#39;d replace them while it&#39;s easy.<br>
<br>
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From: Joe Alexander via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 08:11:45 -0500

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I heat and quench several times before applying pressure.

My theory is that the expansion and contraction breaks the bond between the t=
he two surfaces.

It has always worked, and without a press.

Joe Alexander
645 1st Street
Jesup, IA 50648
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711

> On Mar 5, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Kas Kastner via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> The terrible thing is that press explosion is the same now as sixty years a=
go.
>=20
> Never be beaten by equipment.
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>=20
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Glenn Franco via Fot <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>> I have the National Part Number for the Pinion Seal but its in the shop. I=
>>=20
>> As far as the side seals, I have only used the ones from the big 3. I avo=
id these whenever I can as I have bent pullers, and hubs trying to get these=
 off. We have  tried heat, impacts and no luck.
>>=20
>> The only success I have had is with a bearing splitter and a 50 ton press=
. You get a loud boom when they come apart. I generally use a cushion, like a=
 full trash can, below the press to catch the flying parts.
>>> Not sure what you call them. Anyone have a NAPA seal number for the seal=
s for the stub axle flanges on the side of the IRS diff. There is one seal f=
or each side of the diff. I got a TR6 diff on the shop floor that is leaking=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I heat and quench several times before=
 applying pressure.</div><div><br></div><div>My theory is that the expansion=
 and contraction breaks the bond between the the two surfaces.</div><div><br=
></div><div>It has always worked, and without a press.<br><br>Joe Alexander<=
div>645 1st Street</div><div>Jesup, IA 50648</div><div><a href=3D"http://The=
-vintage-racer.com">The-vintage-racer.com</a></div><div><a href=3D"http://Ga=
sketinnovations.com">Gasketinnovations.com</a></div><div>Cell: &nbsp;319.464=
.4711</div></div><div><br>On Mar 5, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Kas Kastner via Fot &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">The terrible thin=
g is that press explosion is the same now as sixty years ago.</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><p><=
strong><font color=3D"#000099">Never be beaten by equipment.</font></strong>=
</p></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Glenn Franco v=
ia Fot <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">I have the National Part Number for the Pinion Seal but its in the sh=
op. I will have to retrieve it and send it on to you. Napa can cross referen=
ce.<br>
<br>
As far as the side seals, I have only used the ones from the big 3. I avoid t=
hese whenever I can as I have bent pullers, and hubs trying to get these off=
. We have&nbsp; tried heat, impacts and no luck.<br>
<br>
The only success I have had is with a bearing splitter and a 50 ton press. Y=
ou get a loud boom when they come apart. I generally use a cushion, like a f=
ull trash can, below the press to catch the flying parts.<br>
<br>
If anyone has a easier way to get these off please advise.<br>
<br>
Glenn<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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t-style:solid">
Not sure what you call them. Anyone have a NAPA seal number for the seals fo=
r the stub axle flanges on the side of the IRS diff. There is one seal for e=
ach side of the diff. I got a TR6 diff on the shop floor that is leaking all=
 over. Figured I'd replace them while it's easy.<br>
<br>
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