Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on BAT

From: RWM--- via Datsun-roadsters <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:19:44 -0400

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I=E2=80=99m with Pat (removable night time LED conspicuity lamp on top-cente=
r of roll hoop), and apparently, California vehicle traffic law.

Nope.

- Bob

Office contact: +1-516-944-0900=20

> On Sep 24, 2023, at 03:08, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roa=
[email-masked]> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BFI haven't measured on my car (which is 14 away from this car by s=
erial number, btw), but those lights look like they're less than 15 inches a=
bove the ground, and since they're not red, that's strike one, strike two fo=
r being illegal (in California, at least.)
>=20
> Gary McCormick=20
> San Jos=C3=A9, CA
>=20
>>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 9:37 PM, Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFI don=E2=80=99t think that adding low stop/turn lights will help=
 at all, they are too hidden to be seen by anything except another low vehic=
le. When I redid my car I added LED light bars to the back of the roll bar, m=
uch easier to see.=20
>>=20
>> Peace, Pat
>>=20
>> Pat Horne=20
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:40 PM, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters <datsun=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFVery nice Sora Blue '70 2000 Roadster on BAT right now.=20
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsun-2000-roadster-10/#comments
>> Yea or nay on the funky (and illegal) add on amber stop lamps peeking out=
 from under the rear bumper?
>>=20
>> Gary McCormick=20
>> San Jos=C3=A9, CA
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m with Pat (removable night time L=
ED conspicuity lamp on top-center of roll hoop), and apparently, California v=
ehicle traffic law.<div><br></div><div>Nope.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">- Bob<d=
iv><br></div><div>Office contact: +1-516-944-0900&nbsp;</div></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 24, 2023, at 03:08, Gary McCormic=
k via Datsun-roadsters &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<met=
a http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">I haven=
't measured on my car (which is 14 away from this car by serial number, btw)=
, but those lights look like they're less than 15 inches above the ground, a=
nd since they're not red, that's strike one, strike two for being illegal (i=
n California, at least.)<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Gary McCormick&nbsp;</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">San Jos=C3=A9, CA</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">On Sep 23, 2023, at 9:37 PM, Pat Horne &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8">I don=E2=80=99t think that adding low stop/turn lights will help at a=
ll, they are too hidden to be seen by anything except another low vehicle. W=
hen I redid my car I added LED light bars to the back of the roll bar, much e=
asier to see.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace, Pat</div><div><br><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:40 PM, Gary McCormick via=
 Datsun-roadsters &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"tex=
t/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Very nice Sora Blue '70 2000 Roadster on BAT right n=
ow.&nbsp;<div><a href=3D"https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsun-2000-=
roadster-10/#comments">https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsun-2000-ro=
adster-10/#comments</a><br>Yea or nay on the funky (and illegal) add on ambe=
r stop lamps peeking out from under the rear bumper?</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Gary McCormick&nbsp;</div><div>San Jos=C3=A9, CA<br><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
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From: Dave Sommers via Datsun-roadsters <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 11:25:22 -0400

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That=E2=80=99 a really nice survivor car which has been cared for over the y=
ears.  Wish mine looked as good overall as this one.  If I was in the buying=
 mode I wouldn't get wound up about the silly lights and Z covers at all, ea=
sy to fix compared to other owner improvements on many of the cars I=E2=80=99=
ve seen over the years.=20

However, that gas cap being nearly upside down  does it for me and I=E2=80=99=
d never buy the thing.  Its ruined forever!

Enjoy your cars as they are or you want them to be and just remember the mor=
e hacked up other ones get the more valuable yours becomes. =20

Dave Sommers
Dive Hatteras llc
www.divehatteras.com
703-517-3724 boat phone

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">That=E2=80=99 a really nice survivor car wh=
ich has been cared for over the years. &nbsp;Wish mine looked as good overal=
l as this one. &nbsp;If I was in the buying mode I wouldn't get wound up abo=
ut the silly lights and Z covers at all, easy to fix compared to other owner=
 improvements on many of the cars I=E2=80=99ve seen over the years.&nbsp;<di=
v><br></div><div>However, that gas cap being nearly upside down &nbsp;does i=
t for me and I=E2=80=99d never buy the thing. &nbsp;Its ruined forever!</div=
><div><br></div><div>Enjoy your cars as they are or you want them to be and j=
ust remember the more hacked up other ones get the more valuable yours becom=
es. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave Sommers<div>Dive H=
atteras llc</div><div>www.divehatteras.com</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-st=
yle-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -=
webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-compos=
ition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">703-517-3724 boat phone</=
span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 24, 2=
023, at 02:56, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters &lt;datsun-roadsters@auto=
x.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/ht=
ml; charset=3Dutf-8">I haven't measured on my car (which is 14 away from thi=
s car by serial number, btw), but those lights look like they're less than 1=
5 inches above the ground, and since they're not red, that's strike one, str=
ike two for being illegal (in California, at least.)<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Gary McCormick&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">San Jos=C3=A9, CA</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 23, 2023, at 9:37 PM, Pat Horne &=
lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" cont=
ent=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">I don=E2=80=99t think that adding low sto=
p/turn lights will help at all, they are too hidden to be seen by anything e=
xcept another low vehicle. When I redid my car I added LED light bars to the=
 back of the roll bar, much easier to see.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace, P=
at</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for=
 Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 23, 2023, at=
 10:40 PM, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters &lt;[email-masked]=
am.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D=
"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Very nice Sora Blue '7=
0 2000 Roadster on BAT right now.&nbsp;<div><a href=3D"https://bringatrailer=
.com/listing/1970-datsun-2000-roadster-10/#comments">https://bringatrailer.c=
om/listing/1970-datsun-2000-roadster-10/#comments</a><br>Yea or nay on the f=
unky (and illegal) add on amber stop lamps peeking out from under the rear b=
umper?</div><div><br></div><div>Gary McCormick&nbsp;</div><div>San Jos=C3=A9=
, CA<br><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div><span>_____________________________=
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From: dave northrup via Datsun-roadsters <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 18:04:44 +0000

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From: Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 19:23:01 -0700

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Registering a car as an historic vehicle in=
 California comes with a usage limitation; car shows and special events only=
. I don't know about other states.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><h3 style=3D"col=
or: var(--c-dark-blue); font-family: var(--font-heading); box-sizing: border=
-box; line-height: 1.36; margin: 0px 0px 1rem; font-size: var(--font-size-me=
dium); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">21.120 Historical Vehicle and Horsel=
ess Carriage License Plates</h3><h3 class=3D"wp-block-heading" style=3D"colo=
r: var(--c-dark-blue); font-family: var(--font-heading); box-sizing: border-=
box; line-height: 1.36; margin: 0px 0px 1rem; font-size: var(--font-size-med=
ium); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">Chapter 21 Special License Plates<br s=
tyle=3D"box-sizing: border-box;"></h3><h3 class=3D"wp-block-heading" style=3D=
"color: var(--c-dark-blue); font-family: var(--font-heading); box-sizing: bo=
rder-box; line-height: 1.36; margin: 0px 0px 1rem; font-size: var(--font-siz=
e-medium); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><em style=3D"box-sizing: border-=
box;">21.120 Historical Vehicle and Horseless Carriage License Plates (CVC =C2=
=A75004)</em></h3><p style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: var(--s=
pacing-unit-base); font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; font-size: var(--fon=
t-size-small); line-height: 1.35; margin-top: 0px; position: relative; caret=
-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-size-adjus=
t: 100%;">Permanent special identification plates may be issued to vehicles o=
f historic value and interest. Vehicles assigned Horseless Carriage or Histo=
rical Vehicle License Plates are limited to operation or movement over the h=
ighway primarily for the purpose of historical exhibition or other similar, n=
oncommercial purposes, such as parades or historic vehicle club activities, a=
nd are subject to a fixed annual vehicle license fee (VLF) of $2. Historical=
 Vehicle and Horseless Carriage License Plates are not available as personal=
ized plates.(R&amp;TC =C2=A710753.5)</p><p style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; m=
argin-bottom: var(--spacing-unit-base); font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif;=
 font-size: var(--font-size-small); line-height: 1.35; margin-top: 0px; posi=
tion: relative; caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -w=
ebkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><span style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; color:=
 var(--c-dark-blue);">Horseless Carriage License Plates</span>&nbsp;are issu=
ed to two types of motor vehicles:</p><ul style=3D"font-size: 16px; box-sizi=
ng: border-box; font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; padding: 0px; margin-bo=
ttom: calc(var(--spacing-unit-base)*2); margin-left: calc(var(--spacing-unit=
-base)*2); caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit=
-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><li style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-size: va=
r(--font-size-small);">With an engine size of 16 or more cylinders manufactu=
red prior to 1965.</li><li style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-size: var(-=
-font-size-small); padding-top: var(--spacing-unit-15);">Manufactured in 192=
2 or before.</li></ul><p style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: var=
(--spacing-unit-base); font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; font-size: var(-=
-font-size-small); line-height: 1.35; margin-top: 0px; position: relative; c=
aret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-size-a=
djust: 100%;"><span style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; color: var(--c-dark-blu=
e);">Historical Vehicle License Plates</span>&nbsp;are issued to motor vehic=
les or trailers that are:</p><ul style=3D"font-size: 16px; box-sizing: borde=
r-box; font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; padding: 0px; margin-bottom: cal=
c(var(--spacing-unit-base)*2); margin-left: calc(var(--spacing-unit-base)*2)=
; caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-siz=
e-adjust: 100%;"><li style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-size: var(--font-=
size-small);">Manufactured after 1922.</li><li style=3D"box-sizing: border-b=
ox; font-size: var(--font-size-small); padding-top: var(--spacing-unit-15);"=
>At least 25 years old.</li><li style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-size: v=
ar(--font-size-small); padding-top: var(--spacing-unit-15);">Of historic int=
erest.</li></ul><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Gary McCormick&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">=E2=80=9970 2000 SRL311-13291</div><div dir=3D"ltr">San Jos=C3=A9, CA</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 24, 2023, at 5:34 PM, dave northrup via Datsu=
n-roadsters &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquo=
te></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Unless I=E2=80=99m mistaken, California is unique in r=
egulating antique cars, at least 25 years old.&nbsp; Are there any others?&n=
bsp; Cars specifically registered as, and treated as an antique.&nbsp; As op=
posed to an old car you still drive to work.&nbsp;
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Datsun-roadsters &lt;datsun-roadsters-bo=
[email-masked]&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>RWM--- via Datsun-roadsters<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 24, 2023 8:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gary McCormick &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> datsun-roadsters &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on BAT<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m with Pat (removable night time LED conspi=
cuity lamp on top-center of roll hoop), and apparently, California vehicle t=
raffic law.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Nope.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">- Bob<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Office contact: +1-516-944-0900&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Sep 24, 2023, at 03=
:08, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadst=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">=EF=BB=BFI haven't mea=
sured on my car (which is 14 away from this car by serial number, btw), but t=
hose lights look like they're less than 15 inches above the ground, and sinc=
e they're not red, that's strike one, strike
 two for being illegal (in California, at least.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BFI don=E2=80=99t think that adding low stop/t=
urn lights will help at all, they are too hidden to be seen by anything exce=
pt another low vehicle. When I redid my car I added LED light bars to the ba=
ck of the roll bar, much easier to see.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:40 PM, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BFVery nice Sora Blue '70 2000 Roadster on BAT=
 right now.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-dat=
sun-2000-roadster-10/#comments">https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsu=
n-2000-roadster-10/#comments</a><br>
Yea or nay on the funky (and illegal) add on amber stop lamps peeking out fr=
om under the rear bumper?<o:p></o:p></p>
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:24:39 +0000 (UTC)

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 Virginia is similar, registration as "VINTAGE" or "ANTIQUE" means you no l=
onger need to pass the annual safety inspection, but limits use nominally t=
o car events, though I've never heard of strict enforcement.

    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 08:49:55 PM EDT, dave northrup via Dat=
sun-roadsters <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
=20
Unless I=E2=80=99m mistaken, California is unique in regulating antique car=
s, at least 25 years old.=C2=A0 Are there any others?=C2=A0 Cars specifical=
ly registered as, and treated as an antique.=C2=A0 As opposed to an old car=
 you still drive to work.=C2=A0
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
From: Datsun-roadsters <[email-masked]>On Behalf O=
f RWM--- via Datsun-roadsters
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 8:20 AM
To: Gary McCormick <[email-masked]>
Cc: datsun-roadsters <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on BAT
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
I=E2=80=99m with Pat (removable night time LED conspicuity lamp on top-cent=
er of roll hoop), and apparently, California vehicle traffic law.
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Nope.
=20
- Bob
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Office contact: +1-516-944-0900=C2=A0
=20

=20

On Sep 24, 2023, at 03:08, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-road=
[email-masked]> wrote:
=20

=EF=BB=BFI haven't measured on my car (which is 14 away from this car by se=
rial number, btw), but those lights look like they're less than 15 inches a=
bove the ground, and since they're not red, that's strike one, strike two f=
or being illegal (in California, at least.)
=20
Gary McCormick=C2=A0
=20
San Jos=C3=A9, CA
=20

=20

=EF=BB=BFI don=E2=80=99t think that adding low stop/turn lights will help a=
t all, they are too hidden to be seen by anything except another low vehicl=
e. When I redid my car I added LED light bars to the back of the roll bar, =
much easier to see.=C2=A0
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Peace, Pat
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Pat Horne=C2=A0
=20
We support Habitat for Humanity
=20
 =C2=A0
=20

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[email-masked]> wrote:
=20
=EF=BB=BFVery nice Sora Blue '70 2000 Roadster on BAT right now.=C2=A0
=20
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsun-2000-roadster-10/#comments
Yea or nay on the funky (and illegal) add on amber stop lamps peeking out f=
rom under the rear bumper?
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Gary McCormick=C2=A0
=20
San Jos=C3=A9, CA
=20
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp124d001yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Virginia is similar, registr=
ation as "VINTAGE" or "ANTIQUE" means you no longer need to pass the annual=
 safety inspection, but limits use nominally to car events, though I've nev=
er heard of strict enforcement.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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fc5860yahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 08:49:55 PM EDT, dave =
northrup via Datsun-roadsters &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote=
:
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<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Unless I=E2=80=99m mistaken,=
 California is unique in regulating antique cars, at least 25 years old.&nb=
sp; Are there any others?&nbsp; Cars specifically registered as, and treate=
d as an antique.&nbsp; As opposed to an old car you still drive to work.&nb=
sp;
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;">
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52670yqt6653322421"><p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"><b>From:=
</b> Datsun-roadsters &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>RWM--- via Datsun-roadsters<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 24, 2023 8:20 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Gary McCormick &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> datsun-roadsters &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on BAT</p>=20
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5860yiv2622652670yqt6653322421">
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5860yiv2622652670yqt6653322421">
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m with Pat (remova=
ble night time LED conspicuity lamp on top-center of roll hoop), and appare=
ntly, California vehicle traffic law.</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNorm=
al">Nope.</p>=20
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<div>
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Office contact: +1-516-944-0=
900&nbsp;</p>=20
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNorm=
al">On Sep 24, 2023, at 03:08, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a s=
hape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
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<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNorm=
al">=EF=BB=BFI haven't measured on my car (which is 14 away from this car b=
y serial number, btw), but those lights look like they're less than 15 inch=
es above the ground, and since they're not red, that's strike one, strike
 two for being illegal (in California, at least.)</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Gary McCormick&nbsp;</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">San Jos=C3=A9, CA</p>=20
</div>
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<br clear=3D"none">
</p>=20
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNorm=
al">On Sep 23, 2023, at 9:37 PM, Pat Horne &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">patintexas@i=
cloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
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<div>
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BFI don=E2=80=99t thi=
nk that adding low stop/turn lights will help at all, they are too hidden t=
o be seen by anything except another low vehicle. When I redid my car I add=
ed LED light bars to the back of the roll bar, much easier to see.&nbsp;</p=
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
</div>
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<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Peace, Pat</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Pat Horne&nbsp;</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">We support Habitat for Human=
ity</p>=20
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al"><br clear=3D"none">
On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:40 PM, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a sh=
ape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BFVery nice Sora Blue=
 '70 2000 Roadster on BAT right now.&nbsp;</p>=20
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tps://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsun-2000-roadster-10/#comments" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-dats=
un-2000-roadster-10/#comments</a><br clear=3D"none">
Yea or nay on the funky (and illegal) add on amber stop lamps peeking out f=
rom under the rear bumper?</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">San Jos=C3=A9, CA</p>=20
<div>
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New York has no operating limitations on over-25 year-old 'HISTORIC' 
registered vehicles, doesn't require emissions testing, only annual 
safety testing, but 'HISTORIC' vehicle insurance polices do have mileage 
and use case limits, some with owner-specified limits and 
insurer-pricing to match.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex

On 9/25/2023 11:24 AM, Louie Partida via Datsun-roadsters wrote:
> Virginia is similar, registration as "VINTAGE" or "ANTIQUE" means you 
> no longer need to pass the annual safety inspection, but limits use 
> nominally to car events, though I've never heard of strict enforcement.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 08:49:55 PM EDT, dave northrup via 
> Datsun-roadsters <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Unless I’m mistaken, California is unique in regulating antique cars, 
> at least 25 years old.  Are there any others?  Cars specifically 
> registered as, and treated as an antique.  As opposed to an old car 
> you still drive to work.
>
> *From:* Datsun-roadsters <[email-masked]> *On 
> Behalf Of *RWM--- via Datsun-roadsters
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2023 8:20 AM
> *To:* Gary McCormick <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* datsun-roadsters <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on BAT
>
> I’m with Pat (removable night time LED conspicuity lamp on top-center 
> of roll hoop), and apparently, California vehicle traffic law.
>
> Nope.
>
> - Bob
>
> Office contact: +1-516-944-0900
>
>
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>     On Sep 24, 2023, at 03:08, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters
>     <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>     I haven't measured on my car (which is 14 away from this car by
>     serial number, btw), but those lights look like they're less than
>     15 inches above the ground, and since they're not red, that's
>     strike one, strike two for being illegal (in California, at least.)
>
>     Gary McCormick
>
>     San José, CA
>
>
>
>         I don’t think that adding low stop/turn lights will help at
>         all, they are too hidden to be seen by anything except another
>         low vehicle. When I redid my car I added LED light bars to the
>         back of the roll bar, much easier to see.
>
>         Peace, Pat
>
>         Pat Horne
>
>         On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:40 PM, Gary McCormick via
>         Datsun-roadsters <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>         Very nice Sora Blue '70 2000 Roadster on BAT right now.
>
>         Yea or nay on the funky (and illegal) add on amber stop lamps
>         peeking out from under the rear bumper?
>
>         Gary McCormick
>
>         San José, CA
>
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    <p>New York has no operating limitations on over-25 year-old
      'HISTORIC' registered vehicles, doesn't require emissions testing,
      only annual safety testing, but 'HISTORIC' vehicle insurance
      polices do have mileage and use case limits, some with
      owner-specified limits and insurer-pricing to match. <br>
    </p>
    <p>- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex<br>
    </p>
    <p> <br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/25/2023 11:24 AM, Louie Partida
      via Datsun-roadsters wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Virginia is similar,
          registration as "VINTAGE" or "ANTIQUE" means you no longer
          need to pass the annual safety inspection, but limits use
          nominally to car events, though I've never heard of strict
          enforcement.</div>
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          <div> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 08:49:55 PM EDT, dave
            northrup via Datsun-roadsters
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote: </div>
          <div><br>
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                  <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Unless
                    I’m mistaken, California is unique in regulating
                    antique cars, at least 25 years old.  Are there any
                    others?  Cars specifically registered as, and
                    treated as an antique.  As opposed to an old car you
                    still drive to work. 
                  </p>
                  <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">  </p>
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style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
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                        class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670yqt6653322421">
                        <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                          Datsun-roadsters
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>RWM--- via
                          Datsun-roadsters<br clear="none">
                          <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 24, 2023 8:20
                          AM<br clear="none">
                          <b>To:</b> Gary McCormick
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br clear="none">
                          <b>Cc:</b> datsun-roadsters
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br
                            clear="none">
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on
                          BAT</p>
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                    <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">  </p>
                    <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">I’m
                      with Pat (removable night time LED conspicuity
                      lamp on top-center of roll hoop), and apparently,
                      California vehicle traffic law.</p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">  </p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
                        class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Nope.</p>
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                        <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">-
                          Bob</p>
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                          <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
                            class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">On
                            Sep 24, 2023, at 03:08, Gary McCormick via
                            Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="nofollow"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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                        <div>
                          <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
                            class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">I
                            haven't measured on my car (which is 14 away
                            from this car by serial number, btw), but
                            those lights look like they're less than 15
                            inches above the ground, and since they're
                            not red, that's strike one, strike two for
                            being illegal (in California, at least.)</p>
                          <div>
                            <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Gary
                              McCormick </p>
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                          <div>
                            <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">San
                              José, CA</p>
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                              <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">On Sep 23, 2023, at 9:37 PM,
                                Pat Horne &lt;<a shape="rect"
                                  href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                  rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                wrote:</p>
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style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
                            <div>
                              <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">I don’t think that adding low
                                stop/turn lights will help at all, they
                                are too hidden to be seen by anything
                                except another low vehicle. When I redid
                                my car I added LED light bars to the
                                back of the roll bar, much easier to
                                see. </p>
                              <div>
                                <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">  </p>
                              </div>
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                                <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Peace, Pat</p>
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                                <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">  </p>
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                                  <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Pat Horne </p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">We support Habitat for
                                      Humanity</p>
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                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"><br clear="none">
                                    On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:40 PM, Gary
                                    McCormick via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a
                                      shape="rect"
href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="nofollow"
                                      target="_blank"
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                                    wrote:</p>
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                                  <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Very nice Sora Blue '70 2000
                                    Roadster on BAT right now. </p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"><a shape="rect"
href="https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsun-2000-roadster-10/#comments"
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                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsun-2000-roadster-10/#comments</a><br
                                        clear="none">
                                      Yea or nay on the funky (and
                                      illegal) add on amber stop lamps
                                      peeking out from under the rear
                                      bumper?</p>
                                  </div>
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                                    <p
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