From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 11:24:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143B62584C0D for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:24:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 09AE725844CF for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:24:23 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1423765741; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=LgMATc+7uv43JdQn6aXz2JfppBpf74kkaTafBTLxSpMB27TCtw4F6ugTQYN6JoUkg 7CtGVksYOls1n9WulGemhHVwb6s/lyq/Lv2AFZtt3rjslhZi31ye6fgnONsanXoDHU +AtMV8pC9CVInzDzAoBooMHqqelCMdyoicb+II6g= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail12.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.152]) by smtpout02.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABLP36GVAGXVXG2 for (sender ); Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [50.50.75.91] by webmail12.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:27:47 GMT Full-Name: "D W Spearing" Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:27:47 GMT To: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: [Alpines] Alpine pistons From: D W Spearing via Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Hi,A few years back, about five, I rebuilt my Sunbeam Alpine 1725cc engine. I had to bore it out to .040 over and I used some pistons purchased from Victoria British. They did not look like any other pistons that I have ever seen, and I have see quite a few, as they had a slot down the camshaft side rather then the usual four holes up near the oil ring groove. I expected a bit of oil use after the overhaul, but it kept getting worse and worse, not better, to the point that I was laying down a blue cloud as I drove; it sure kept people from following to close! Last fall I pulled the engine apart and discovered that all of the pistons had broken skirts and the oil rings did not appear to expand as I had expected (photo at :http://www.madbrits.org/DS.gif)! Further the oil pressure pegged and ruined the pressure gauge! So the questions are: Where do I find better quality .040 pistons? and does anyone have a working oil pressure relief valve which will fit a 1725 cc Alpine engine (I have not checked it out yet, perhaps a cleaning is all I need)? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 73 de Dave KB9CSW ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ David Wm Spearing kb9csw@juno.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ____________________________________________________________ Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School & Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54dcf0d37126770d35454st02vuc ** alpines@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 12:09:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A982584D9A for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:09:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f45.google.com (mail-qg0-f45.google.com [209.85.192.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC8625806B5 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:09:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id h3so9636579qgf.4 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:14:10 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:thread-index:content-language; bh=U+eq5PZanc28fEZ52vthPi1lLAOKUjcnxVgyGeb6pF0=; b=RxRJ69Ym02V1rV+Voy3W3WH2Q5h5fx1Ts9qkvYBGfPFjguKZo+/Bwawwog56+B7BXq gDv7yUKTJ1yG5oaW6W/Q2tLPrqEQa7nWvxmxQcVmSP1e6VSMpfP1JeGrcn8OqgGczGtC mX4sHbESKprsDEwLK+DBRgVDw7s0lfRpom6RyqSKAVo4WTOmif25v/7GIBKuQNukH9MA JIdfqRg/bppIb7zPIRITPh24vnR9doajVQTRl3KrQ4KVg4IvfYuiUTyINe2VCs3Os7z9 HvhLxOeD7PmeJVXOnRNW+GkvLrPHmf8NIaM3ocVYntdbXrrslLQjzaSir0T542QFirTW urxg== Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from JoesComputer ([2601:1:32c0:4:9d90:8e8b:28d8:2c06]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h47sm4830011qgd.27.2015.02.12.11.14.09 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:14:10 -0800 (PST) To: Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:14:10 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBG97Wid4VaCp/1SVGXSS8Pojlf/w== Content-Language: en-us Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Pistons From: Joe McConlogue via Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, Been a while since I saw a 73 signoff! You can get .040 pistons from Rick at Sunbeam Specialties. His catalog lists them as EP-54, $84 each. Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:27:47 GMT From: "D W Spearing" To: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: [Alpines] Alpine pistons Hi,A few years back, about five, I rebuilt my Sunbeam Alpine 1725cc engine. I had to bore it out to .040 over and I used some pistons purchased from Victoria British. They did not look like any other pistons that I have ever seen, and I have see quite a few, as they had a slot down the camshaft side rather then the usual four holes up near the oil ring groove. I expected a bit of oil use after the overhaul, but it kept getting worse and worse, not better, to the point that I was laying down a blue cloud as I drove; it sure kept people from following to close! Last fall I pulled the engine apart and discovered that all of the pistons had broken skirts and the oil rings did not appear to expand as I had expected (photo at :http://www.madbrits.org/DS.gif)! Further the oil pressure pegged and ruined the pressure gauge! So the questions are: Where do I find better quality .040 pistons? and does anyone have a working oil pressure relief valve which will fit a 1725 cc Alpine engine (I have not checked it out yet, perhaps a cleaning is all I need)? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 73 de Dave KB9CSW ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ David Wm Spearing kb9csw@juno.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ____________________________________________________________ Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School & Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54dcf0d37126770d35454st02vuc ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Alpines mailing list Alpines@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/alpines ------------------------------ End of Alpines Digest, Vol 2, Issue 2 ************************************* ** alpines@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 12:14:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7F025844FA for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:14:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D602580291 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:14:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150212191838.TJQB32693.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:18:38 -0500 Received: from eastrmwml105 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id rXJe1p00R4h0NJL01XJeJg; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:18:38 -0500 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=gpkrIBUcAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=VJrWZoNVAAAA:8 a=NoAKp6exAAAA:8 a=IAYBoBbwT9cahMuiQ6MA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:18:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:18:38 -0500 To: D W Spearing Sensitivity: Normal Cc: D W Spearing via Alpines Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpine pistons From: awtiger--- via Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Dave: I can't comment much about the pistons. However, you might do a thread search on the SAOCA site for "oil pressure relief valve." A number of us have been down that road and there are some fixes that can be performed to make those valves work like they should. http://www.sunbeamalpine.org/ Paste the link above into your browser and go to the "forum" page. From there you can do a search for what you need to find. Best of luck, Andy Walker Edmond, OK ---- D W Spearing via Alpines wrote: > Hi,A few years back, about five, I rebuilt my Sunbeam Alpine 1725cc engine. I > had to bore it out to .040 over and I used some pistons purchased from > Victoria British. They did not look like any other pistons that I have ever > seen, and I have see quite a few, as they had a slot down the camshaft side > rather then the usual four holes up near the oil ring groove. I expected a bit > of oil use after the overhaul, but it kept getting worse and worse, not > better, to the point that I was laying down a blue cloud as I drove; it sure > kept people from following to close! Last fall I pulled the engine apart and > discovered that all of the pistons had broken skirts and the oil rings did not > appear to expand as I had expected (photo at :http://www.madbrits.org/DS.gif)! > Further the oil pressure pegged and ruined the pressure gauge! So the > questions are: Where do I find better quality .040 pistons? and does anyone > have a working oil pressure relief valve which will fit a 1725 cc Alpine > engine (I have not checked it out yet, perhaps a cleaning is all I need)? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 73 de Dave KB9CSW > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > David Wm Spearing > kb9csw@juno.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ____________________________________________________________ > Old School Yearbook Pics > View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School & Year. Look Now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54dcf0d37126770d35454st02vuc > > ** alpines@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/awtiger@cox.net ** alpines@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 16 16:17:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321C225846C6 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:17:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9396258044F for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:17:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mba01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mba01.mx.aol.com [172.26.133.111]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 569A438000056; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:22:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mfa09c.mail.aol.com (core-mfa09.mail.aol.com [172.27.61.9]) by mtaomg-mba01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 279E938000088; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:22:19 -0500 (EST) Full-name: PApple16 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:22:19 -0500 To: kb9csw@juno.com, alpines@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1424128939; bh=+WUHTiZAk5icYPSjDjZx+aTkbF0IFBnE9tWIHjI/i7A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QGvzbsRtf71sKzgNJkMDdPhD3mqqmB72CBFONj/cwm7mwxJflaWJcxeCbL+1iSE1e xP0u2J2QL4Hr3Hmu8u+6MJ9S951YzIY+RGauScl/+a8xzIpYPjXvne1mSmUvYsClM7 I/hPg3tFvFM1RGYE+041jP2kFceGV1hxSG+QEMmo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a856f54e27bab153d Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpine pistons From: PApple16--- via Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net years ago, I used custom made "johns racing pistons" can;t remember where I got them, but they were not to outrageous at the time. I did get a little out of hand, and went with 11 to 1 compression ratio with large relieves in the pistons for valve clearance. Wow what a difference in the performance well worth the effort, an Alpine that WILL get out of its own way I might of gotten them from tiger tom down south, I will look around to see if I can figure out where I got them Paul Appleton in RI 1966 alpine In a message dated 2/12/2015 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alpines@autox.team.net writes: Hi,A few years back, about five, I rebuilt my Sunbeam Alpine 1725cc engine. I had to bore it out to .040 over and I used some pistons purchased from Victoria British. They did not look like any other pistons that I have ever seen, and I have see quite a few, as they had a slot down the camshaft side rather then the usual four holes up near the oil ring groove. I expected a bit of oil use after the overhaul, but it kept getting worse and worse, not better, to the point that I was laying down a blue cloud as I drove; it sure kept people from following to close! Last fall I pulled the engine apart and discovered that all of the pistons had broken skirts and the oil rings did not appear to expand as I had expected (photo at :http://www.madbrits.org/DS.gif)! Further the oil pressure pegged and ruined the pressure gauge! So the questions are: Where do I find better quality .040 pistons? and does anyone have a working oil pressure relief valve which will fit a 1725 cc Alpine engine (I have not checked it out yet, perhaps a cleaning is all I need)? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 73 de Dave KB9CSW ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ David Wm Spearing kb9csw@juno.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ____________________________________________________________ Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School & Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54dcf0d37126770d35454st02vuc ** alpines@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/papple16@aol.com ** alpines@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 08:48:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C78B25849FE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:48:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E85402584873 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:48:44 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1424188405; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=P3FS6chJW6xHEehoVdxvQ59VxlJZAwYGwz8vbq/Yn9l7j9fUyiVBFGH01p3BSFBxs /Lj/+6w3XarsYCj92ANQVo7RiWOH48zJV50GwJuFEHinujZKoc6fwnUjPU76hWOHh0 j/WTGS583xpLWCK16H5fn2o21PTpY6r+EbBzRFp8= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail13.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.153]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABLQG28AAHMLF4J for (sender ); Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [50.50.75.91] by webmail13.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:51:52 GMT Full-Name: "D W Spearing" Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:51:52 GMT To: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: [Alpines] pistons --- Thanx From: D W Spearing via Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Hi,Thanks to all who answered my request for piston information. Motorcycle pistons, an interesting thought. John's pistons, I once had a set - I can not find them on the internet. Yes, I am a ham radio operator. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 73 de Dave KB9CSW ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ David Wm Spearing kb9csw@juno.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ____________________________________________________________ How Old Men Tighten Skin 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54e363c060d6363c01d73st03vuc ** alpines@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 09:09:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231162584A40 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:09:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FA9258493E for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:09:13 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mLM2ES3B5Xblbc7/9LBbugVgdxXqU5svQhy791QRQPj7XnVcXesUSwGIQUK6iPli; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.56.188.90] (helo=[192.168.0.116]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1YNkmY-0003eF-Rp; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:13:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:13:54 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/34.0 To: alpines@autox.team.net, kb9csw@juno.com References: <20150217.155152.7877.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> Subject: Re: [Alpines] pistons --- Thanx From: Jarrid Gross via Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Search for Jahns pistons. Venolia was known to make a pop up piston at some point for the alpine engine. JE pistons also makes good custom pistons. None of these will have off the shelf pistons for a sunbeam. Jarrid Gross On 2/17/2015 8:51 AM, D W Spearing via Alpines wrote: > Hi,Thanks to all who answered my request for piston information. Motorcycle > pistons, an interesting thought. John's pistons, I once had a set - I can not > find them on the internet. Yes, I am a ham radio operator. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 73 de Dave KB9CSW > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > David Wm Spearing > kb9csw@juno.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ____________________________________________________________ > How Old Men Tighten Skin > 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54e363c060d6363c01d73st03vuc > > ** alpines@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/jarrid_gross@earthlink.net ** alpines@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 15:29:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43CC2584716 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:29:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-05.shaw.ca (smtp-out-05.shaw.ca [64.59.134.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4AF2584675 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:29:24 -0700 (MST) cv=dwjLhcNAn+N65iW9oApC92yF2BXVJAhWBlCn9pRWT9g= c=1 sm=1 a=mJp9S24oyUUA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=ii9ktZc25MS4wCYshtt8Vw==:17 a=NoAKp6exAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=XgsDdz7n_ZVt8XtYl_cA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO G5Computer.local) ([70.72.146.137]) by smtp-out-05.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 17 Feb 2015 15:34:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:34:05 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 To: D W Spearing References: <20150217.155152.7877.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> Cc: alpines Subject: Re: [Alpines] oil pressure relief valve From: Mary and Ron Tebo via Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Dave: With regard to your other question about the oil pressure relief valve, I seemed to recall an article, years ago, by an Alpine racing owner who even made an adjustable oil pressure relief valve, and I thought that he would be the one to advise you on what you need. Unless my memory is faulty, it was Jarrid Gross, the same poster that just replied on the pistons! Glad to see that you are still around, Jarrid! Ron Tebo On Tuesday17/02/15 8:51 AM, D W Spearing via Alpines wrote: > Hi,Thanks to all who answered my request for piston information. Motorcycle > pistons, an interesting thought. John's pistons, I once had a set - I can not > find them on the internet. Yes, I am a ham radio operator. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 73 de Dave KB9CSW > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > David Wm Spearing > kb9csw@juno.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ____________________________________________________________ > How Old Men Tighten Skin > 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54e363c060d6363c01d73st03vuc > > ** alpines@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mrtebo@shaw.ca ** alpines@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 18 09:09:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F63B2584511 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:09:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 791A52584444 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:09:18 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1424276040; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=LJrB272fWtZMlnIkyWBiLUWCNZ8EV2jZfUEqG/nV5jRF30KqgT3UZZJ8q1uPm5Eiz ryY+AgoKkZ2Fhm/EXAVQfGWxHIm3yGCyX4HntZRbvjycLNqv/yhVG828YwJGEcjkNR AlLPqraoNimUQOt3Pr+7K2FzCS/amURSRQje8ORY= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail12.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.152]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABLQKQT3AVRRSH2 for (sender ); Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:13:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [50.50.75.91] by webmail12.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:12:02 GMT Full-Name: "D W Spearing" Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:12:02 GMT To: mrtebo@shaw.ca Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] oil pressure relief valve From: D W Spearing via Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Hi,I read the article which you mentioned and modified the valve to regulate the pressure at 55psi several years back and it worked well. The problem that I recently had was that the pressure went high and destroyed the gauge! I really need to pull it apart (when the temp warms up) and see what blocked the valve closed; I suspect parts of the cheap pistons which broke. Thanx for the thought. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~David Wm Spearing kb9csw@juno.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Mary and Ron Tebo To: D W Spearing Cc: alpines Subject: Re:oil pressure relief valve Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:34:05 -0700 Dave: With regard to your other question about the oil pressure relief valve, I seemed to recall an article, years ago, by an Alpine racing owner who even made an adjustable oil pressure relief valve, and I thought that he would be the one to advise you on what you need. Unless my memory is faulty, it was Jarrid Gross, the same poster that just replied on the pistons! Glad to see that you are still around, Jarrid! Ron Tebo On Tuesday17/02/15 8:51 AM, D W Spearing via Alpines wrote: > Hi,Thanks to all who answered my request for piston information. Motorcycle > pistons, an interesting thought. John's pistons, I once had a set - I can not > find them on the internet. Yes, I am a ham radio operator. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 73 de Dave KB9CSW > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > David Wm Spearing > kb9csw@juno.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ____________________________________________________________ > How Old Men Tighten Skin > 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54e363c060d6363c01d73st03vuc > > ** alpines@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mrtebo@shaw.ca ** alpines@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 19 12:08:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119E72584D15 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:08:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0B92584D1F for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:01:30 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Jk6X1l591Xv5Kf+WRbB51D+hdnuvuS0Cv7viSVkzo42XRmwSOF5C2Pn08SJX5KWY; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.56.188.90] (helo=[192.168.0.112]) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1YOWQF-000338-RN for alpines@autox.team.net; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:06:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:06:06 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/34.0 To: alpines@autox.team.net References: <20150218.161202.11313.0@webmail12.vgs.untd.com> <54E4C219.4070600@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [Alpines] oil pressure relief valve From: Jarrid Gross via Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/18/2015 9:47 AM, Jarrid Gross wrote: > David, > > The insides of the OP valve develop ridges inside as the piston > rattles inside. > > A ridge on the dump side of the piston will result in a hang up of the > piston and result > in low OP at low RPMs. A ridge on the spring side of the piston can > prevent the OP from > opening which results in a pressure spike at higher RPMs. > > The article wants you to inspect and perhaps even ream/deburr the > bore to prevent these obstructions. > > Others through time have put brass liners in the bore and even changed > the piston material > to something other than steel (on steel). Reaming the bore smooth > and oversize, then making a brass > piston to fit seems like a good solution to an otherwise unserviceable > part. > > Long wearing items like an OP valve usually are made of significantly > different hardness materials > to prevent wear related failures such as happens on these valves. > > > > Hope this helps you find a solution. > > > Jarrid > > > On 2/18/2015 9:12 AM, D W Spearing via Alpines wrote: >> Hi,I read the article which you mentioned and modified the valve to >> regulate >> the pressure at 55psi several years back and it worked well. The >> problem that >> I recently had was that the pressure went high and destroyed the >> gauge! I >> really need to pull it apart (when the temp warms up) and see what >> blocked the >> valve closed; I suspect parts of the cheap pistons which broke. Thanx >> for the >> thought. >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~David Wm Spearing >> kb9csw@juno.com >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Mary and Ron Tebo >> To: D W Spearing >> Cc: alpines >> Subject: Re:oil pressure relief valve >> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:34:05 -0700 >> >> Dave: >> >> With regard to your other question about the oil pressure relief valve, >> I seemed to recall an article, years ago, by an Alpine racing owner who >> even made an adjustable oil pressure relief valve, and I thought that he >> would be the one to advise you on what you need. Unless my memory is >> faulty, it was Jarrid Gross, the same poster that just replied on the >> pistons! Glad to see that you are still around, Jarrid! >> >> Ron Tebo >> >> On Tuesday17/02/15 8:51 AM, D W Spearing via Alpines wrote: >>> Hi,Thanks to all who answered my request for piston information. >> Motorcycle >>> pistons, an interesting thought. John's pistons, I once had a set - >>> I can >> not >>> find them on the internet. Yes, I am a ham radio operator. >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> 73 de Dave KB9CSW >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> David Wm Spearing >>> kb9csw@juno.com >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> How Old Men Tighten Skin >>> 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54e363c060d6363c01d73st03vuc >>> >>> ** alpines@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mrtebo@shaw.ca >> >> ** alpines@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/jarrid_gross@earthlink.net ** alpines@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive