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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Heater control connections <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 09:21:44 -0500
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James,

No, you weren't sleeping. In my case, it was a new combined heater/evaporato=
r unit - a "Gen II" unit from Vintage Air. It's a tight fit but it works ver=
y well in both modes.=20

Holiday Cheers!
Allen

Sent from my iPhone
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
Allen Bachelder, prop.=20

> On Dec 19, 2013, at 7:22 AM, my.mga.tc@gmail.com wrote:
>=20
> Modern MG heater? Or modern car heater? Have details of this conversion be=
en released? Maybe I was sleeping=20
> James=20
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>=20
> From: Allen Bachelder
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:27 AM
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> Reply To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Heater control connections
>=20
> Yes, Steve is right...
>=20
>  We heard two incredibly-detailed lectures: one on the heater functions an=
d controls, and one on the inner workings of the Manumatic, which was consid=
erably easier to understand.  (Not to say that it WAS understood!)  There wa=
s one freak moment during my restoration when a flash of intellectual light s=
truck me and lo, for that single moment, I fully understood the workings of t=
he cowl-vent lever.  This flash of brilliance was so full it struck me to th=
e floor, totally exhausted. To retain that vast battery of comprehension, wh=
ile simultaneously grasping the melange of cables and levers obtusely co-min=
gled so as to effect all possible permutations and combinations of cold or w=
arm, fresh or recirculated, air, blown or drawn, through floor vents, or de f=
roster vents, without disturbing the temperature or humidity inside the car w=
hatsoever is simply beyond the human realm. =20
>=20
> There is little doubt in my mind that three extra-terrestials from a much m=
ore advanced planet landed in Roswell New Mexico in the early '50s, and tele=
ported their spirits to Abingdon to haunt Gerald Palmer on three successive n=
ights, leaving him with a heater/defroster design of which he understood not=
hing  but felt inexplicably compelled to use in the new Magnette.  In the me=
antime, the three extra-terrestial spirits returned to their home-planet whe=
re they were properly rebuked for their poor navigational skills - having la=
nded in Roswell instead of Stonehenge where they had previously landed and b=
uilt this circular stone marker to guide them back*.=20
>=20
> *Although other archeologists have alternatively explained the artifact at=
 Stonehenge as perhaps a petrified prehistoric, "monumentally" inef ficient s=
quirrel-cage blower - modeling the design of that unit replicated in the Z M=
agnette.
>=20
> What else could possibly explain this design? No ordinary human being coul=
d possibly have designed this.  After all, John Twist himself has exclaimed t=
hat he never understood it. (Really!!)  We have here a design clearly emanat=
ing from beyond the human realm...  Of course anybody, regardless of intelle=
ctual advancement, can make mistakes - whadaya expect from three guys who co=
uldn't distinguish Roswell from Stonehenge? Why do you think I replaced my e=
ntire Magnette heater with a modern one?=20
>=20
> Allen=20
> ****************************************************************
> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> North Street, MI 48049, USA
> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> ****************************************************************
>=20
>> On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:
>>=20
>> this will be of absolutely no help whatsoever, but when Fearless Leader A=
llen and I were in the UK celebrating the Magnette's 60th, we were treated t=
o an explanation by someone, who obviously and actually did understand the t=
hing (meaning the entire air/heater/circulati on/defroster system).  I can t=
ell you that (NOT speaking for Allen!!!), the explanation was at least an in=
tense 20 minutes long, and had to do with things like "when this is open, th=
en air is circulating from here to there, which necessitates the #$%^ valve b=
eing open, while simulatanousely the excess air is being directed to the def=
roster, and exits out the @#$%^&.  This went on for, honest to god, 20 minut=
es.  I was lost after the 2nd or 3rd @#$%^&*.  I've done a couple of B's, an=
d there seems to be no relationship there whatsoever.  I actually understand=
 what happens, I think, in a B.
>> =20
>> But thanks Kelvin . . . I get this part!
>> =20
>> #2SteveK
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kelvin Dodd
>> To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Heater control connections
>>=20
>> Lets see if this works.
>> =20
>> From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.te=
am.net] On Behalf Of Rodger Shaver
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:35 AM
>> To: zmagnette@autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Zmagnette] Heater control connections
>> =20
>> I am almost ready to connect the heater controls from the dash to the val=
ve.  The slide control for temperature does two things, it opens the valve t=
o allow hot water to flow and it controls an inner flap.  How should the val=
ve and the inner flap be set when I reinstall the cable?  Maybe it will be o=
bvious when I get into the car but not much is obvious to me when I am scrun=
ched up.  I didn't do this step on my prior Magnette re-do because I don't h=
ave a proper valve for it.=20
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>James,</div><div><br></div><div>No, yo=
u weren't sleeping. In my case, it was a new combined heater/evaporator unit=
 - a "Gen II" unit from Vintage Air. It's a tight fit but it works very well=
 in both modes.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Holiday Cheers!</div><div>All=
en</div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone<div>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</=
div><div>Allen Bachelder, prop.&nbsp;</div></div><div><br>On Dec 19, 2013, a=
t 7:22 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:my.mga.tc@gmail.com";>my.mga.tc@gmail.com</a> wr=
ote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"width: 100%; f=
ont-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb=
(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">M=
odern MG heater? Or modern car heater? Have details of this conversion been r=
eleased? Maybe I was sleeping&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"width: 100%; font-siz=
e: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73=
, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">James&nb=
sp;</div>                                                                   =
                                                                  <p style=3D=
"font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: r=
gb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"=
>Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.</p>                                 =
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b(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: T=
ahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;">  <div><b>From: </b>A=
llen Bachelder</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:27 AM</d=
iv><div><b>To: </b>List for the Z Magnette Group - North America</div><div><=
b>Reply To: </b>List for the Z Magnette Group - North America</div><div><b>S=
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r: rgb(186, 188, 209);=20
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color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id=3D"_originalContent" style=3D"=
"><base href=3D"x-msg://1184/">Yes, Steve is right...<div><br></div><div>&nb=
sp;We heard two incredibly-detailed lectures: one on the heater functions an=
d controls, and one on the inner workings of the Manumatic, which was consid=
erably easier to understand. &nbsp;(Not to say that it WAS understood!) &nbs=
p;There was one freak moment during my restoration when a flash of intellect=
ual light struck me and lo, for that single moment, I fully understood the w=
orkings of the cowl-vent lever. &nbsp;This flash of brilliance was so full i=
t struck me to the floor, totally exhausted. To retain that vast battery of c=
omprehension, while simultaneously grasping the melange of cables and levers=
 obtusely co-mingled so as to effect all possible permutations and combinati=
ons of cold or warm, fresh or recirculated, air, blown or drawn, through flo=
or vents, or de
 froster vents, without disturbing the temperature or humidity inside the ca=
r whatsoever is simply beyond the human realm. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>There is little doubt in my mind that three extra-terrestials from a much=
 more advanced planet landed in Roswell New Mexico in the early '50s, and te=
leported their spirits to Abingdon to haunt Gerald Palmer on three successiv=
e nights, leaving him with a heater/defroster design of which he understood n=
othing &nbsp;but felt inexplicably compelled to use in the new Magnette. &nb=
sp;In the meantime, the three extra-terrestial spirits returned to their hom=
e-planet where they were properly rebuked for their poor navigational skills=
 - having landed in Roswell instead of Stonehenge where they had previously l=
anded and built this circular stone marker to guide them back*.&nbsp;</div><=
div><br></div><div>*Although other archeologists have alternatively explaine=
d the artifact at Stonehenge as perhaps a petrified prehistoric, "monumental=
ly" inef
 ficient squirrel-cage blower - modeling the design of that unit replicated i=
n the Z Magnette.</div><div><br></div><div>What else could possibly explain t=
his design? No ordinary human being could possibly have designed this. &nbsp=
;After all, John Twist himself has exclaimed that he never understood it. (R=
eally!!) &nbsp;We have here a design clearly emanating from beyond the human=
 realm... &nbsp;Of course anybody, regardless of intellectual advancement, c=
an make mistakes - whadaya expect from three guys who couldn't distinguish R=
oswell from Stonehenge? Why do you think I replaced my entire Magnette heate=
r with a modern one?&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Allen&nbsp;<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</div><br class=
=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Appl=
e-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; fo=
nt-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:=
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ent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing=
: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spaci=
ng: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust:=
 auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang=3D"EN-=
US" link=3D"blue" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" vlink=3D"purple"><div>this will be of a=
bsolutely no help whatsoever, but when Fearless Leader Allen and I were in t=
he UK celebrating the Magnette's 60th, we were treated to an explanation by s=
omeone, who obviously and actually did understand the thing (meaning the ent=
ire air/heater/circulati
 on/defroster system).&nbsp; I can tell you that (NOT speaking for Allen!!!)=
, the explanation was at least an intense 20 minutes long, and had to do wit=
h&nbsp;things like "when this is open, then air is circulating from here to t=
here, which necessitates the #$%^ valve being open, while simulatanousely th=
e excess air is being directed to the defroster, and exits out the @#$%^&amp=
;.&nbsp; This went on for, honest to god, 20 minutes.&nbsp; I was lost after=
 the 2nd or 3rd @#$%^&amp;*.&nbsp; I've done a couple of B's, and there seem=
s to be no relationship there whatsoever.&nbsp; I actually understand what h=
appens, I think, in a B.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>But thanks Kelvin . . . I=
 get this part!</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>#2SteveK</div><blockquote style=3D=
"border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style:=
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t: 0px; "><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----=
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al; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-or=
igin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228=
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 "><b>From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a title=3D=
"doddk@mossmotors.com" href=3D"mailto:doddk@mossmotors.com"; style=3D"color: b=
lue; text-decoration: underline; ">Kelvin Dodd</a></div><div style=3D"font: n=
ormal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-conv=
erted-space">&nbsp;</span><a title=3D"zmagnette@autox.team.net" href=3D"mail=
to:zmagnette@autox.team.net" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underlin=
e; ">'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'</a></div><div style=3D"=
font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"A=
pple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:34 PM</div=
><div style=3D"font: normal norma
 l normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted=
-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] Heater control connections</div><div><b=
r></div><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; "><div styl=
e=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0i=
n; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style=3D"=
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt; "=
>Lets see if this works.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0i=
n; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; font-family: 'Ti=
mes New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style=3D"font-family: Calibr=
i, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom=
: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 1=
2pt; "><b><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "=
>From:</span></b><span styl=3D"" e=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-=
size: 10pt; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"=
mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; text-decorati=
on: underline; ">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a><span class=3D"Apple-co=
nverted-space">&nbsp;</span>[<a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.=
net">mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span class=3D"Apple-conver=
ted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"=
>&nbsp;</span></b>Rodger Shaver<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converte=
d-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:35 AM<br><b>To:</b><sp=
an class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@=
autox.team.net" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">zmagnett=
e@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"=
>&nbsp;</span>[Zmagnette] Heater control connections<o:p></o:p></span></div>=
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin=
-left: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', seri
 f; font-size: 12pt; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; font-family: '=
Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style=3D"font-family: Aria=
l, sans-serif; color: black; ">I am almost ready to connect the heater contr=
ols from the dash to the valve.&nbsp; The slide control&nbsp;for temperature=
 does two things, it opens the valve to allow hot water to flow and it contr=
ols an inner flap.&nbsp; How should the valve and the inner flap be set when=
 I reinstall the cable?&nbsp; Maybe it will be obvious when I get into the c=
ar but not much is obvious to me when I am scrunched up.&nbsp; I didn't do t=
his step on my prior Magnette re-do because I don't have a proper valve for i=
t.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><br class=3D"webkit-block-p=
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