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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: "Steve Kirby" <skirby210@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 18:56:36 -0800
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oh yaw, that's why I bought the socket . . . to work on the Magnette.  =
Like when I first got the Magnette in about 1871, and said "I'll have =
this done in a couple weeks", I immediately went out and bought that =
socket.  My only consolation is that when I bought it, it was probably =
"cheap", and inflation now means my socket is worth like millions!!!!

Tis all good.

#2SteveK
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Allen Bachelder=20
  To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
  Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects


  #2 SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for =
a couple old geezer's machining classes.  Anybody know where I can take =
one or two or whatever it takes?


  Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft =
pulley for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the =
water pump,  would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the =
crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot =
be choosers...



  Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to working =
on your Magnette rear axle.  Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had =
one of these and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I =
spent over a week looking for one before I realized even the right size =
wouldn't fit, AND that I already HAD ONE!! =20


  If I get any more ideas, I'll share them!


  Thanks,
  Allen

  ****************************************************************
  Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
  Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
  '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
  North Street, MI 48049, USA
  http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
  ****************************************************************


  On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:


    Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this =
wonderful trade.  Congratulations to you, and to your son.

    Such an awesome offer.  I purchased, at great expense, that socket =
you are talking about.  Never used it.  If he could use it for guidance, =
I'd be glad to loan it to him.=20

    As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon =
as your son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.

    Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!

    #2Steve K
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Steven Trovato
      To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
      Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:55 PM
      Subject: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects


      My son is in college in a two year program to become a machinist.  =
It=20
      seems that he needs some proposals for projects he can do there.  =
As=20
      the one paying the tuition, I get to suggest something that would =
be=20
      of use to me and my MGs.  One thought I had was to make a nice =
socket=20
      for the octagon shaped rear axle nut.  Does anyone else have any=20
      ideas for any cool stuff I could suggest?  There's no guarantee =
that=20
      he will do it, as the project would have to fit in with the goals =
of=20
      the course work.  So, what would you guys do if you had a =
machinist=20
      at your disposal?  Note that this is not an automotive machinist=20
      program, so they are not set up for operations on engine blocks,=20
      crankshafts, etc.

      -Steve T.

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<DIV>oh yaw, that's why I bought the socket . . . to&nbsp;work on the=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>#2 SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - =
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  <DIV>Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to =
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  <DIV>On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</DIV><BR=20
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    <DIV>Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this=20
    wonderful trade.&nbsp; Congratulations to you, and to your =
son.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Such an awesome offer.&nbsp; I purchased, at great expense, =
that socket=20
    you are talking about.&nbsp; Never used it.&nbsp; If he could use it =
for=20
    guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to him.&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV>As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as =
soon as=20
    your son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>#2Steve K</DIV>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
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title=3Dstrovato@optonline.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:strovato@optonline.net";>Steven Trovato</A></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B><SPAN=20
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title=3Dzmagnette@autox.team.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>List for the Z Magnette =
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      North America</A></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN=20
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2013 6:55=20
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>[Zmagnette] Machinist=20
      projects</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>My son is in college in a two year program to =
become a=20
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some=20
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tuition, I=20
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      MGs.&nbsp; One thought I had was to make a nice socket<SPAN=20
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shaped rear=20
      axle nut.&nbsp; Does anyone else have any<SPAN=20
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stuff I=20
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the project=20
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work.&nbsp; So,=20
      what would you guys do if you had a machinist<SPAN=20
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disposal?&nbsp; Note=20
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are not set=20
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