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Fletcher,
Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26. I didn't get it until =
8:04 this morning! But before I went to bed last night, I received =
Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM), =
Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt's =
11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM. =20
And your 8:52 PM reply to my note? ' Showed up here at 10:08 this =
morning.
Go figure!
Allen
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Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:
> And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!
> This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the =
other night which were 30-45 minutes.
> It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be =
tortuous, with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it =
could be either - or neither - end. Sequential messages do not =
necessarily travel the same route. I expect a fly by night local ISP =
could be a factor in this, as it must interface with a "real" internet =
doofus.
> I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later =
than (claimed) sent time - Rock Auto is one.=20
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> Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?
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> FRM
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> On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>> I'm seeing erratic response times: some later responses coming in =
hours before some earlier ones. ' Could tolerate the delay much more =
easily if it were consistent. I'm talking delays of much more than =
30-45 minutes. I'll write a reply about this time in the evening and it =
might not show up for 20-24 hours. In the meantime, other replies are =
coming in hours earlier, to questions posed later. Tonight I received =
two or three replies before I received the questions involved. =
Somebody sent in a picture. I have a reply from somebody else who =
reports seeing it, but I haven't received the picture post yet...
>>=20
>> ' Don't think we're there yet...
>>=20
>> Allen
>> ****************************************************************
>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D<
>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>> ****************************************************************
>>=20
>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>>=20
>>> Steven Trovato wrote:
>>>> OK, so I responded to two different messages on this list. I sent =
them three minutes apart. I received one from the list about 10-15 =
minutes later. The other didn't show up for 30-45 minutes. Can anyone =
explain to me why this is? What is causing such a long delay? I'm =
sending this one at 7:10pm Eastern Time. Now we'll see =
if everyone gets this at 7:11pm just to make a liar out of me. :-)
>>>=20
>>> No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long delays in =
mail getting sent out from
>>> the server. At the moment the bottleneck seems to be mostly =
software related. The program
>>> that translates between IP addresses and names is not responding as =
quickly as it should. And
>>> with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups are a =
major factor in the Team.Net
>>> mailing list software.
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request assistance with a new
>>> machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long =
in the tooth. Donate
>>> early, donate often ;-)
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>>> I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. =
At least the mail does
>>> eventually go through. Using something like =
http://www.team.net/forums would not have
>>> this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.
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>>> mjb.
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">Fletcher,<div><br></div><div>Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note =
at 8:26. I didn't get it until 8:04 this morning! But before =
I went to bed last night, I received Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 =
PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM), Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 =
PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt's 11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM. =
</div><div><br></div><div>And your 8:52 PM reply to my note? =
' Showed up here at 10:08 this =
morning.</div><div><br></div><div>Go =
figure!</div><div><br></div><div>Allen<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">
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And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!<br>
This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the
other night which were 30-45 minutes.<br>
It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be
tortuous, with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so
it could be either - or neither - end. Sequential messages do not
necessarily travel the same route. I expect a fly by night local ISP
could be a factor in this, as it must interface with a "real"
internet doofus.<br>
I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later
than (claimed) sent time - Rock Auto is one. <br>
<br>
Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?<br>
<br>
FRM<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen =
Bachelder
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote =
cite=3D"mid:D8A9D08D-DD5E-4B2B-9A90-68B7E8DD6111@comcast.net" =
type=3D"cite">I'm seeing erratic response times: some later
responses coming in hours before some earlier ones. ' Could
tolerate the delay much more easily if it were consistent. =
I'm
talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes. I'll write a
reply about this time in the evening and it might not show up for
20-24 hours. In the meantime, other replies are coming in =
hours
earlier, to questions posed later. Tonight I received two or
three replies before I received the questions involved. =
Somebody
sent in a picture. I have a reply from somebody else who =
reports
seeing it, but I haven't received the picture post yet...
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</div>
<div>' Don't think we're there yet...</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Allen<br>
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<div>Steven Trovato wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">OK, so I responded to two
different messages on this list. I sent them three
minutes apart. I received one from the list about =
10-15
minutes later. The other didn't show up for 30-45
minutes. Can anyone explain to me why this is? =
What is
causing such a long delay? I'm sending this one at
7:10pm Eastern Time. Now we'll see if everyone =
gets
this at 7:11pm just to make a liar out of me. =
:-)<br>
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No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long
delays in mail getting sent out from<br>
the server. At the moment the bottleneck seems =
to be
mostly software related. The program<br>
that translates between IP addresses and names is not
responding as quickly as it should. And<br>
with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups
are a major factor in the <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://Team.Net/">Team.Net</a><br>
mailing list software.<br>
<br>
I'm looking into it. Come the spring fund drive I =
may
specifically request assistance with a new<br>
machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting
a bit long in the tooth. Donate<br>
early, donate often ;-)<br>
<br>
I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we
shall see. At least the mail does<br>
eventually go through. Using something like <a =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a>
would not have<br>
this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.<br>
<br>
mjb.<br>
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