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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] List response time <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:08:22 -0400
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Fletcher,

Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26.  I didn't get it until =
8:04 this morning!  But before I went to bed last night, I received =
Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM), =
Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt's =
11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM. =20

And your  8:52 PM reply to my note?  ' Showed up here at 10:08 this =
morning.

Go figure!

Allen
****************************************************************
Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
****************************************************************

On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:

> And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!
> This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the =
other night which were 30-45 minutes.
> It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be =
tortuous, with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it =
could be either - or neither - end. Sequential messages do not =
necessarily travel the same route. I expect a fly by night local ISP =
could be a factor in this, as it must interface with a "real" internet =
doofus.
> I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later =
than (claimed) sent  time - Rock Auto is one.=20
>=20
> Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?
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> FRM
>=20
> On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>> I'm seeing erratic response times: some later responses coming in =
hours before some earlier ones.  ' Could tolerate the delay much more =
easily if it were consistent.  I'm talking delays of much more than =
30-45 minutes.  I'll write a reply about this time in the evening and it =
might not show up for 20-24 hours.  In the meantime, other replies are =
coming in hours earlier, to questions posed later.  Tonight I received =
two or three replies before I received the questions involved.   =
Somebody sent in a picture.  I have a reply from somebody else who =
reports seeing it, but I haven't received the picture post yet...
>>=20
>> ' Don't think we're there yet...
>>=20
>> Allen
>> ****************************************************************
>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>> ****************************************************************
>>=20
>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>>=20
>>> Steven Trovato wrote:
>>>> OK, so I responded to two different messages on this list.  I sent =
them three minutes apart.  I received one from the list about 10-15 =
minutes later.  The other didn't show up for 30-45 minutes.  Can anyone =
explain to me why this is?  What is causing such a long delay?  I'm =
sending this one at                 7:10pm Eastern Time.  Now we'll see =
if everyone gets this at 7:11pm just to make a liar out of me.   :-)
>>>=20
>>> No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long delays in =
mail getting sent out from
>>> the server.  At the  moment the bottleneck seems to be mostly =
software related.  The program
>>> that translates between IP addresses and names is not responding as =
quickly as it should.  And
>>> with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups are a =
major factor in the Team.Net
>>> mailing list software.
>>>=20
>>> I'm looking into it.  Come the spring fund drive I may specifically =
request assistance with a new
>>> machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long =
in the tooth.  Donate
>>> early, donate often ;-)
>>>=20
>>> I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. =
At least the mail does
>>> eventually go through.  Using something like =
http://www.team.net/forums would not have
>>> this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.
>>>=20
>>> mjb.
>>>=20
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">Fletcher,<div><br></div><div>Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note =
at 8:26. &nbsp;I didn't get it until 8:04 this morning! &nbsp;But before =
I went to bed last night, I received Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 =
PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM), Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 =
PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt's 11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>And your &nbsp;8:52 PM reply to my note? =
&nbsp;' Showed up here at 10:08 this =
morning.</div><div><br></div><div>Go =
figure!</div><div><br></div><div>Allen<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
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    And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!<br>
    This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the
    other night which were 30-45 minutes.<br>
    It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be
    tortuous, with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so
    it could be either - or neither - end. Sequential messages do not
    necessarily travel the same route. I expect a fly by night local ISP
    could be a factor in this, as it must interface with a "real"
    internet doofus.<br>
    I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later
    than (claimed) sent&nbsp; time - Rock Auto is one. <br>
    <br>
    Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?<br>
    <br>
    FRM<br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen =
Bachelder
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote =
cite=3D"mid:D8A9D08D-DD5E-4B2B-9A90-68B7E8DD6111@comcast.net" =
type=3D"cite">I'm seeing erratic response times: some later
      responses coming in hours before some earlier ones. &nbsp;' Could
      tolerate the delay much more easily if it were consistent. =
&nbsp;I'm
      talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes. &nbsp;I'll write a
      reply about this time in the evening and it might not show up for
      20-24 hours. &nbsp;In the meantime, other replies are coming in =
hours
      earlier, to questions posed later. &nbsp;Tonight I received two or
      three replies before I received the questions involved. &nbsp; =
Somebody
      sent in a picture. &nbsp;I have a reply from somebody else who =
reports
      seeing it, but I haven't received the picture post yet...
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      </div>
      <div>' Don't think we're there yet...</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Allen<br>
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          <div>On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:</div>
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            <div>Steven Trovato wrote:<br>
              <blockquote type=3D"cite">OK, so I responded to two
                different messages on this list. &nbsp;I sent them three
                minutes apart. &nbsp;I received one from the list about =
10-15
                minutes later. &nbsp;The other didn't show up for 30-45
                minutes. &nbsp;Can anyone explain to me why this is? =
&nbsp;What is
                causing such a long delay? &nbsp;I'm sending this one at
                7:10pm Eastern Time. &nbsp;Now we'll see if everyone =
gets
                this at 7:11pm just to make a liar out of me. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;:-)<br>
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              <br>
              No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long
              delays in mail getting sent out from<br>
              the server. &nbsp;At the &nbsp;moment the bottleneck seems =
to be
              mostly software related. &nbsp;The program<br>
              that translates between IP addresses and names is not
              responding as quickly as it should. &nbsp;And<br>
              with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups
              are a major factor in the <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://Team.Net/";>Team.Net</a><br>
              mailing list software.<br>
              <br>
              I'm looking into it. &nbsp;Come the spring fund drive I =
may
              specifically request assistance with a new<br>
              machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting
              a bit long in the tooth. &nbsp;Donate<br>
              early, donate often ;-)<br>
              <br>
              I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we
              shall see. At least the mail does<br>
              eventually go through. &nbsp;Using something like <a =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/forums";>http://www.team.net/forums</a>
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              this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.<br>
              <br>
              mjb.<br>
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