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Re: [WPTA] 1500 Spitfire oil pump install

To: WPTA <wpta@autox.team.net>, Tim Prell <tjprell@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WPTA] 1500 Spitfire oil pump install
From: Gary Fredo via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 20:50:36 +0000 (UTC)
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 Put the distributor back in before you try to install the oil pump so you =
don't accidentally push the gear out of place.
Gary
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    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 03:58:40 PM EDT, Tim Prell via Wpta <wpta@a=
utox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 lol - finally fund a youtube video and saw that the oil pump housing shoul=
d have come off when assembly screws were removed. Something else is holdin=
g it in place but a well placed bump with a rubber mallet aligned things ni=
cely. Glad I don't charge myself by the hour! ha ha
current problem seems to be solved and on to the next. Gotta get the Spitfi=
re up and running before PVGP!
Tim
On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 12:13=E2=80=AFPM Tim Prell <tjprell@gmail.com> wrote=
:

I started the process of replacing thrust washers in my 77 Spitfire this sp=
ring and after encouragement from a Triumph Spitfire restoration and suppor=
t forum, also tried replacing main bearings and rod bearings in place.(for =
better or worse). In order to access the mid-crank rod bearing bolts, I rem=
oved the oil pump (cover plate, inner rotor, outer rotor shaft assembly). N=
ow that all the work is complete and the engine spins as expected, the oil =
pump inner rotor and shaft will not slide fully back into place - it fits i=
nto its slot but stops at ~ 1 - 1.5" from fully inserted. I can see the slo=
t at the end of the distributor assembly and a second opening in a plate fo=
r the inner rotor and shaft to slip through which must be blocking the shaf=
t. The inner rotor shaft assembly spins easily. Any ideas on what can be di=
splaced that won't allow the shaft to completely slide into place would be =
helpful. Nothing was moved or loosened at the distributor - I only worked o=
n the lower end to replace thrust washers and main plus rod bearings. Some =
pics attached.
thanks for feedback (at least serious feedback :-).
Tim
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Put the distributor back in =
before you try to install the oil pump so you don't accidentally push the g=
ear out of place.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Gary</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
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                    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 03:58:40 PM EDT, Tim Prell =
via Wpta &lt;wpta@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpe0738bd1yiv6805404775"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">lol - finally fund a youtube video and saw that the oil pump housing s=
hould have come off when assembly screws were removed. Something else is ho=
lding it in place but a well placed bump with a rubber mallet aligned thing=
s nicely. Glad I don't charge myself by the hour! ha ha<div><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div>current problem seems to be solved and on to the next. Gotta=
 get the Spitfire up and running before PVGP!</div><div><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div>Tim</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ydpe0738bd1yiv68054=
04775yqt53126" class=3D"ydpe0738bd1yiv6805404775yqt8851761332"><div class=
=3D"ydpe0738bd1yiv6805404775gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpe0738=
bd1yiv6805404775gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 12:13=E2=80=AFPM Tim Pre=
ll &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tjprell@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow"=
 target=3D"_blank">tjprell@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydpe0738bd1yiv6805404775gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-family:UI Helvetica, Arial,=
 sans-serif;color:rgb(5,5,5);font-size:18.75px;"><div style=3D"font-family:=
inherit;">I started the process of replacing thrust washers in my 77 Spitfi=
re this spring and after encouragement from a Triumph Spitfire restoration =
and support forum, also tried replacing main bearings and rod bearings in p=
lace.(for better or worse). In order to access the mid-crank rod bearing bo=
lts, I removed the oil pump (cover plate, inner rotor, outer rotor shaft as=
sembly). Now that all the work is complete and the engine spins as expected=
, the oil pump inner rotor and shaft will not slide fully back into place -=
 it fits into its slot but stops at ~ 1 - 1.5" from fully inserted. </div><=
/div><div style=3D"margin:0.5em 0px 0px;font-family:UI Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(5,5,5);font-size:18.75px;"><div style=3D"font-family:inh=
erit;">I can see the slot at the end of the distributor assembly and a seco=
nd opening in a plate for the inner rotor and shaft to slip through which m=
ust be blocking the shaft. The inner rotor shaft assembly spins easily. Any=
 ideas on what can be displaced that won't allow the shaft to completely sl=
ide into place would be helpful. Nothing was moved or loosened at the distr=
ibutor - I only worked on the lower end to replace thrust washers and main =
plus rod bearings. Some pics attached.</div><div style=3D"font-family:inher=
it;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:inherit;">thanks fo=
r feedback (at least serious feedback :-).</div><div style=3D"font-family:i=
nherit;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:inherit;">Tim</=
div></div></div>
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