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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats
From: "John Spaur" <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 11:50:21 -0700
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The main purpose of a thermostat is to stay closed to warm the engine up =
to whatever the operating temperature is.

=20

John,

San Jose, CA

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Linwood Rose
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:19 AM
To: Rossm <rvmaylor@shaw.ca>
Cc: Forum Healeys <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats

=20

I would like to go back to Steve Byers=E2=80=99 comment. I am not so =
much concerned about my car overheating. When the engine was rebuilt it =
was thoroughly cleaned to get rid of all sludge. I run an aluminum =
radiator, have built and installed air ducting for improved flow. I do =
not have an electric fan.=20

=20

My problem was that my engine ran cool and would take quite a while to =
=E2=80=9Cwarm up.=E2=80=9D I think I was using a 165 degree (or =
thereabouts) non-sleeved thermostat. Robert Shaw as I recall. So I =
wanted to get my engine up to 185-190 degrees sooner. I went with one of =
the same AC sleeved thermostats 82 degrees centigrade from Kees that =
Steve used. The engine seems to be much happier and gets to running temp =
more quickly.

=20

At least for my engine, a 160-165 degree thermostat keeps things cool =
too long. In a perfect world I would prefer David Nock=E2=80=99s bellows =
thermostat but with a 185-190 degree opening. Since that doesn=E2=80=99t =
seem to be available I think I will stick with the AC unit and keep my =
eye on the temp. Gauge.

=20

I am no authority on this. I am simply passing along my experience Am I =
understanding all of this correctly?=20

=20

Thanks,

Lin

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Rossm <rvmaylor@shaw.ca =

To be fair Michael, it is hot maybe three days a year in Canada?:) .  I =
left Calgary yesterday for the Rendezvous and it was snowing already. =
First time the hood contraption on the BN6 has been up since last =
September. =20

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2018, at 10:50, Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com =

Well I have watched this discussion on sleeved thermostats for the last =
week but now I just have to say. When the sleeved thermostats went NLA, =
about 45 years ago, we resorted to installing just plain old Stant 175 =
degree stats and guess what ... not one complaint or comment on running =
hotter or overheating and absolutely no sign of any symptoms of =
overheating on my own BJ8 even in the hottest of ambient temperatures. =
It just didn't happen!!! Just sayin'. M=20

  _____ =20

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:35:32 AM
To: Forum Healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Thermostats=20

=20

Three sleeved thermostats, one on the right 160 degrees, middle no idea, =
 left is a Smiths x85002s/86 (180F) and has failed open.=20

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>The main purpose of a thermostat is to stay closed to warm the engine =
up to whatever the operating temperature is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>John,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>San Jose, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Linwood Rose<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:19 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Rossm &lt;rvmaylor@shaw.ca&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Forum =
Healeys &lt;Healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Thermostats<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I would like =
to go back to Steve Byers=E2=80=99 comment. I am not so much concerned =
about my car overheating. When the engine was rebuilt it was thoroughly =
cleaned to get rid of all sludge. I run an aluminum radiator, have built =
and installed air ducting for improved flow. I do not have an electric =
fan.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My problem was that my engine ran cool and would take =
quite a while to =E2=80=9Cwarm up.=E2=80=9D I think I was using a 165 =
degree (or thereabouts) non-sleeved thermostat. Robert Shaw as I recall. =
So I wanted to get my engine up to 185-190 degrees sooner. I went with =
one of the same AC sleeved thermostats 82 degrees centigrade from Kees =
that Steve used. The engine seems to be much happier and gets to running =
temp more quickly.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>At least for my engine, a 160-165 degree thermostat =
keeps things cool too long. In a perfect world I would prefer David =
Nock=E2=80=99s bellows thermostat but with a 185-190 degree opening. =
Since that doesn=E2=80=99t seem to be available I think I will stick =
with the AC unit and keep my eye on the temp. =
Gauge.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am no authority on this. I am simply passing along my experience Am I =
understanding all of this correctly?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Lin<o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Rossm =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rvmaylor@shaw.ca";>rvmaylor@shaw.ca</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>To be fair Michael, it is hot maybe three =
days a year in Canada?:) . &nbsp;I left Calgary yesterday for the =
Rendezvous and it was snowing already. First time the hood contraption =
on the BN6 has been up since last September. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 15, 2018, at 10:50, Michael =
Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Well I have watched this discussion on sleeved =
thermostats for the last week but now I just have to say. When the =
sleeved thermostats went NLA, about 45 years ago, we resorted to =
installing just plain old Stant 175 degree stats and guess what ... not =
one complaint or comment on running hotter or overheating and absolutely =
no sign of any symptoms of overheating on my own BJ8 even in the hottest =
of ambient temperatures. It just didn't happen!!! Just sayin'. M =
<o:p></o:p></p><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"98%" =
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class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>F=
rom:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team=
.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Rossm &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rvmaylor@shaw.ca";>rvmaylor@shaw.ca</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b>=
 Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:35:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> Forum =
Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Thermostats</span> =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Three sleeved thermostats, one on the right =
160 degrees, middle no idea,&nbsp; left is a Smiths x85002s/86 (180F) =
and has failed open. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote =
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