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Re: [Vintage-race] 110 octane race gas

To: "Ralph Steinberg" <ralph@cloverleaf-auto.com>,
Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] 110 octane race gas
From: "Carl McLelland" <carlynneracing@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:25:50 -0700
I think you'll find, pending an actual qualitative analysis that 100 octane
"Low Lead" aviation fuel contains more lead than even Sunoco 110 leaded.

Carl
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ralph Steinberg
  To: John.Desantis@Inficon.com ; vintage-race@autox.team.net
  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] 110 octane race gas


  You do realize that when the guys at DuPont who make this stuff handle it
  they where full hazmat suits? In fact the guys who just load the trucks
wear
  full hazmat
   Also just adding lead to fuel does not increase the Octane - The higher
the
  octane the slower the burn and the cooler the burn so the compression can
be
  higher - Lead does some of the same things, slows the burn and cools the
  temps but it does not raise the octane rating. If your compression and
  head/piston design require 110 octane leaded fuel you would need 115
  unleaded to equal the burn of the 110
   Except today they have other fuel additives to make the burn work so they
  can get away with lower octane in some instances with low or no lead fuels.
   If you want to raise octane add alcohol to the mix - and yes that has its
  own problems and is not legal in all race formats.
   Av gas is designed to run at high altitudes and it is getting hard to find
  leaded AV gas anyway.
   You can build your engine to run unleaded - NASCAR does and they use no
  alcohol.
   But man messing with lead on your own is a bad thing. You also better be
  thinking about setting up your engines to run without lead - lead is not
  going to be around to much longer. And yes, except for some air plane
  engines you can rebuild your engine to run on unleaded fuel - kick is high
  octane unleaded costs as much or more than leaded - lead was a cheap answer
  for the oil companies and they were not real concerned about what it did to
  you or your engine. There was a reason for Amoco White Gas
   Ralph

  -----Original Message-----
  From: vintage-race-bounces@autox.team.net
  [mailto:vintage-race-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
  John.Desantis@Inficon.com
  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 3:39 PM
  To: vintage-race@autox.team.net
  Subject: [Vintage-race] 110 octane race gas

          Anyone out there getting sick of $8 plus a gallon race gas - A few
  years back a buddy of mine was buying TEL (tetra ethyl lead)
  and mixing his own.

          Anybody out there try this?   There are other octane boosters out
  there.






  John DeSantis
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