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That makes a lot of sense! Is that procedure widely known? I sure
haven't come across it.
Thanks Ed.
Tim
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>From "EDWARD WOODS" <fogbro1@comcast.net>
To "Tim Gaines" <mtgaines@presby.edu>; "Triumphs"
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Date 8/6/2026 8:36:08 PM
Subject Re: [TR] TR6 rear brake cylinder shims--question
>Tim,
>
>Well, you have them in the right position, but my order of assembly
>differs. Position the wheel cylinder on the backing plate. Install the
>top and bottom plates. Install the handbrake lever. Drive the middle
>plate into place over the tabs of the bottom plates. Fit the rubber
>dust cover. Girling brake grease eases things along.
>
>
>Ed
>>On 08/06/2026 3:39 PM EDT Tim Gaines <mtgaines@presby.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I have recently finished installation of the RATCO cross member that
>>serves as the rear diff support and the mounting plate for the lever
>>shocks. The project was long and a bit tedious, but I am very happy
>>with the result. However, when I was reassembling the hubs to the
>>aluminum trailing arms I found that a couple of the six studs on each
>>TA had stripped the holes or their own threads when the studs came out
>>with the nyloc nuts. I decided to use the Patton-Machine TARK-KS guide
>>kit for drilling and tapping the trailing arms for Keenserts. That
>>went extremely well, and I now feel confident that the hubs (and
>>wheels!) are securely mounted to the new studs that are in turn secure
>>in the Keenserts.
>>
>>Today I thought I was going to simply adjust the brakes, so I got out
>>my official shop manual to refresh my memory. Now I feel pretty
>>foolish, so I am going to have to ask for help. The diagram of the
>>brake cylinder shim sequence in the manual does not agree with the
>>instructions. I am pretty sure that the instructions are right and my
>>earlier installation based on the diagram and a Google AI query is
>>wrong, but I would like some corroboration.
>>
>>The manual says:
>>1) The thin spring(y) shim with 2 tabs at the open end slides into the
>>cylinder's groove first, from the front side (where the hand brake
>>lever is), against the back of the backplate with the tabs pointing
>>out.
>>2) The thicker flat locking shim slides in from the opposite direction
>>until the tabs from the spring shim fit into the slots in the locking
>>shim.
>>3) The shorter flat spacing shim slides in from the front on top of
>>the other shims. Somehow I have misplaced one of these shims--another
>>problem to deal with!
>>
>>Is that correct? I had reversed the first two shims.
>>
>>If anyone has an interest in or questions about the the RATCO
>>installation or the Patton-Machine kit, I would be happy to provide
>>details.
>>
>>Tim
>>
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<body><div>That makes a lot of sense! Is that procedure widely known? I su=
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Tim</div>
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@comcast.net</a>></div>
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esby.edu</a>>; "Triumphs" <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"=
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Well, you have them in the right position, but my order of assembly diff=
ers. Position the wheel cylinder on the backing plate. Install the top and=
bottom plates. Install the handbrake lever. Drive the middle plate into pla=
ce over the tabs of the bottom plates. Fit the rubber dust cover. Girling b=
rake grease eases things along.
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On 08/06/2026 3:39 PM EDT Tim Gaines <mtgaines@presby.edu> wrote:
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</div> I have recently finished installation of the RATCO cross member t=
hat serves as the rear diff support and the mounting plate for the lever sh=
ocks. The project was long and a bit tedious, but I am very happy with the=
result. However, when I was reassembling the hubs to the aluminum trailing=
arms I found that a couple of the six studs on each TA had stripped the hol=
es or their own threads when the studs came out with the nyloc nuts. I deci=
ded to use the Patton-Machine TARK-KS guide kit for drilling and tapping th=
e trailing arms for Keenserts. That went extremely well, and I now feel con=
fident that the hubs (and wheels!) are securely mounted to the new studs th=
at are in turn secure in the Keenserts.=20
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Today I thought I was going to simply adjust the brakes, so I got out m=
y official shop manual to refresh my memory. Now I feel pretty foolish, so=
I am going to have to ask for help. The diagram of the brake cylinder shim=
sequence in the manual does not agree with the instructions. I am pretty su=
re that the instructions are right and my earlier installation based on the =
diagram and a Google AI query is wrong, but I would like some corroboratio=
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The manual says:
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1) The thin spring(y) shim with 2 tabs at the open end slides into the =
cylinder's groove first, from the front side (where the hand brake lever i=
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Is that correct? I had reversed the first two shims.
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If anyone has an interest in or questions about the the RATCO installa=
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