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Re: [TR] 4A upper A arms

To: Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen@outlook.com>, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>, list Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] 4A upper A arms
From: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 08:20:17 -0700 (PDT)
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TR4s after CT6344 VIN, used 3 degree trunnions and the upper arms that you 
have.  This tilts the upright reward for 3 degrees of caster.  So the long arm 
or the one with more of an arc is the front arm.  The shorter/straighter arm is 
the rear arm.  This must be stated in a repair manual somewhere.  But, if you 
mock up the suspension with the 3 degree trunnion, upright, ball joint and the 
spring pan in place, the arm placement should be obvious, because the upright 
with the upper ball joint attached will not slip in place between the arms.  
The suspension should be set up without the coil spring or shock to make sure 
there is smooth, no binding operation while moving up and down and turning.  
TR4s built before 6344 used the TR3 front suspension.  TR4As and TR6s used the 
same upper arms, but different design lower arms, trunnions and upright.  
You can use TR4A-TR6 brake calipers and rotors (slightly smaller diameter) if 
you change the caliper bracket on the earlier uprights.  The calipers are much 
lighter weight and much less expensive and more readily available, and more 
choices of brake pads. 
 
Dave H.

> On 05/17/2026 6:06 PM PDT Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen@outlook.com> wrote:
>  
>  
> The longer arms are the rears.
>  
> I think the letters are on the shorter (front) arms.
>  
> The letter faces up. L up on the left side, R up on the right side.
>  
> Cliff
>  
>  
> 
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> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of dave northrup 
> <dave@ranteer.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2026 4:27 PM
> To: list Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] 4A upper A arms
>  
> I am converting my 3A to 4A front suspension using 4A upper A arms.  I bought 
> them from a breaker, and as i clean them up i notice that 2 of the 4 arms 
> have L on one side and R on the other. Yes, left and right, but beyond that I 
> don't understand.   And the other 2 A arms have no marking
>  
> How do i install these A arms?
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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">TR4s after CT6344 
VIN, used 3 degree trunnions and the upper arms that you have.&nbsp; This tilts 
the upright reward for 3 degrees of caster.&nbsp; So the long arm or the one 
with more of an arc is the front arm.&nbsp; The shorter/straighter arm is the 
rear arm.&nbsp; This must be stated in a repair manual somewhere.&nbsp; But, if 
you mock up the suspension with the 3 degree trunnion, upright, ball joint and 
the spring pan in place, the arm placement should be obvious, because the 
upright with the upper ball joint attached will not slip in place between the 
arms.&nbsp; The suspension should be set up without the coil spring or shock to 
make sure there is smooth, no binding operation while moving up and down and 
turning.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">TR4s built before 
6344 used the TR3 front suspension.&nbsp; TR4As and TR6s used the same upper 
arms, but different design lower arms, trunnions and upright.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
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  <div class="default-style" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 
helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">You can use TR4A-TR6 
brake calipers and rotors (slightly smaller diameter) if you change the caliper 
bracket on the earlier uprights.&nbsp; The calipers are much lighter weight and 
much less expensive and more readily available, and more choices of brake 
pads.&nbsp;</span>
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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Dave H.</span>
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    On 05/17/2026 6:06 PM PDT Cliff Hansen &lt;cliff_hansen@outlook.com&gt; 
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    The longer arms are the rears.
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    I think the letters are on the shorter (front) arms.
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    The letter faces up. L up on the left side, R up on the right side.
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    Cliff
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&lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, May 17, 2026 4:27 
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&lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> [TR] 4A upper A 
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    I am converting my 3A to 4A front suspension using 4A upper A arms.&nbsp; I 
bought them from a breaker, and as i clean them up i notice that 2 of the 4 
arms have L on one side and R on the other. Yes, left and right, but beyond 
that I don't understand.&nbsp; &nbsp;And the other 2 A arms have no marking 
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     How do i install these A arms?
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