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Re: [TR] TR2/3/3a/3b nose

To: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3/3a/3b nose
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:09:26 +0000 (UTC)
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After having an unlatched TR3 hood (bonnet) lift up and fold back onto the =
windscreen, a front hinged bonnet holds a special appeal.
(Hint, don't trust that the safety catch will work.=C2=A0 That was a $1,000=
 mistake.)
A front-hinged apron would make radiator replacement much simpler but hardl=
y seems worth the effort.=C2=A0 The chap with the single-piece front clip s=
aid it was done du to some collision damage.=C2=A0 But some folks do things=
 just for the novelty of it.=C2=A0 To add their personal touch.=C2=A0 My TR=
6 has an automatically opening scuttle vent.=C2=A0 I devised a mechanism us=
ing an HVAC damper motor from a Ford that opens the vent using engine vacuu=
m and a solenoid dumps the vacuum when the engine is shut down.=C2=A0 Why?=
=C2=A0 Because I could.=C2=A0 One of a kind.=C2=A0 But this is much more su=
btle than what some are doing.
It's interesting that the Spitfire front clip is a simple assembly of stamp=
ed sheet metal pieces whereas the XKE hood has its own framework.=C2=A0 I w=
onder if the TR3 sheetmetal is stout enough to not need a frame.
Dave=20


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    On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 09:52:14 PM CDT, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@g=
mail.com> wrote:  =20

 It's been done, Dave Massey.=C2=A0 IIRC, the TR Register (UK) forum had a =
thread 10+ years ago on how an apron was converted to front-hinged..=C2=A0 =
I'm not going hunting for=C2=A0it though -- it offends the originalist in m=
e.=C2=A0 :)
On the same general subject, I saw this ugly-a$$ sidescreen TR in Monaco du=
ring Grand Prix weekend a few years ago (2017, I think).=C2=A0 Not exactly =
a full tilt, but kind of a goofy mod for the work that would have been invo=
lved.https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-2=
4-29-MGP-all/i-GPTfGNk/0/Mph67kVfNhDV3RQZdvpcVMXb7Gs9B26vTf2m9WVf6/X5/IMG_3=
415-X5.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-=
MGP-all/i-fDhdJ57/0/M7W4nRn7dHxnm4DVTGjtdp5DfrknFCjdvBLLggcDQ/X5/IMG_3416-X=
5.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-=
MGP-all/i-VMstHKQ/0/MmNLNTn7RCc9bTKKND6jvZqqZgBtX6fbVsgGj9QDV/X5/IMG_3417-X=
5.jpg

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 9:27=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> w=
rote:

I didn't see any responses to this so I guess no one has done this.=C2=A0 I=
 did see a TR3 in France that was set up like a Spitfire where the hood, no=
se piece and fenders were all hard connected together and hinged at the fro=
nt.=C2=A0 Is that what you mean or do you want the nose piece to fold out s=
eparate from the hood like a clamshell?
Either way, I'm no help.=C2=A0 I'm an electrical guy.=C2=A0 Sheet metal wor=
k is all magic to me.
Dave=20


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    On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 06:38:08 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave@ran=
teer.com> wrote:  =20

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Does anyone have any info about hinging the front nosepiece?=C2=A0 I know i=
t involves some decisions about the front bumper.=C2=A0
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpf4740cadyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">After having an unlatched TR3 hood (bonnet) =
lift up and fold back onto the windscreen, a front hinged bonnet holds a sp=
ecial appeal.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">(Hint, don't trust that the safety catch wi=
ll work.&nbsp; That was a $1,000 mistake.)</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">A front-hinged=
 apron would make radiator replacement much simpler but hardly seems worth =
the effort.&nbsp; The chap with the single-piece front clip said it was don=
e du to some collision damage.&nbsp; But some folks do things just for the =
novelty of it.&nbsp; To add their personal touch.&nbsp; My TR6 has an autom=
atically opening scuttle vent.&nbsp; I devised a mechanism using an HVAC da=
mper motor from a Ford that opens the vent using engine vacuum and a soleno=
id dumps the vacuum when the engine is shut down.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because =
I could.&nbsp; One of a kind.&nbsp; But this is much more subtle than what =
some are doing.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It's interesting that the Spitfire front =
clip is a simple assembly of stamped sheet metal pieces whereas the XKE hoo=
d has its own framework.&nbsp; I wonder if the TR3 sheetmetal is stout enou=
gh to not need a frame.</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydpf4740cadsignat=
ure"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none=
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stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, =
Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br></sp=
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                        On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 09:52:14 PM CDT, Don Hi=
scock &lt;don.hiscock@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558gmail=
_default">It's been done, Dave Massey.&nbsp; IIRC, the TR Register (UK) for=
um had a thread 10+ years ago on how an apron was converted to front-hinged=
..&nbsp; I'm not going hunting for&nbsp;it though -- it offends the origina=
list in me.&nbsp; :)</div><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp63d90=
746yiv7575563558gmail_default"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-=
size:small;" class=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558gmail_default">On the same ge=
neral subject, I saw this ugly-a$$ sidescreen TR in Monaco during Grand Pri=
x weekend a few years ago (2017, I think).&nbsp; Not exactly a full tilt, b=
ut kind of a goofy mod for the work that would have been involved.</div><di=
v style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558gmail_default=
"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-=
Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-MGP-all/i-GPTfGNk/0/Mph67kVfNhDV3RQZdvpcVMXb7Gs=
9B26vTf2m9WVf6/X5/IMG_3415-X5.jpg" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https=
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5563558gmail_quote"><div id=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558yqt74795" class=3D"y=
dp63d90746yiv7575563558yqt2004753181"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp63d90746=
yiv7575563558gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 9:27=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASS=
EY &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; rel=3D"nofollow=
" target=3D"_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(=
204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558gmail_quot=
e"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16=
px;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I didn't see any responses to this so I guess no=
 one has done this.&nbsp; I did see a TR3 in France that was set up like a =
Spitfire where the hood, nose piece and fenders were all hard connected tog=
ether and hinged at the front.&nbsp; Is that what you mean or do you want t=
he nose piece to fold out separate from the hood like a clamshell?</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Either way, I'm no =
help.&nbsp; I'm an electrical guy.&nbsp; Sheet metal work is all magic to m=
e.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><div style=3D"color:black;font-s=
tyle:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-heig=
ht:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div style=3D"color:bl=
ack;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt=
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ize=3D"4">Dave <br clear=3D"none"></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div=
><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></div>
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e northrup &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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<p><span style=3D"color:black;">Does anyone have any info about hinging the=
 front nosepiece?&nbsp; I know it involves some decisions about the front b=
umper.&nbsp;
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