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Re: [TR] Spinal Tappets

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Subject: Re: [TR] Spinal Tappets
From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 18:55:11 +0100
Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Sorry everyone, I thought the term â??Mickey takingâ?? was originally a 
language import from North America? Clearly not - or itâ??s not a recognised 
term in Texas   :)

Anyway, the meaning as per Spinal Tappets. The small group from the TR Register 
felt the various song titles in which Triumph models are named, was an 
inappropriate and distasteful way of poking fun at our cars. They didnâ??t like 
it, it was unkind, it was not justified.

All I can say to those sensitive souls is they should have been at the factory 
and the two company owned Service Divisions in days of yore. If they had, 
theyâ??d have heard multiple opinions regarding product quality, assembly 
practises and non-sensical â??improvementsâ??. All of them were described in 
basic Coventry-ese with generous servings of a myriad of expletives to ram the 
points home. Iâ??ve repeated some of them (without the expletives) to various 
groups to whom I give talks throughout the year - and mostly the reactions are 
shock, horror and a good few â??donâ??t knock the productâ?? comments. Ive come 
to the conclusion that many enthusiasts in the U.K. either have limited or 
non-existent imaginations, or theyâ??re so besotted with their beloved cars 
that they canâ??t bear to see or hear them being criticised, even 
constructively. This probably explains why most of my former colleagues 
arenâ??t model or marque specific Triumph club members because they, like me, 
canâ??t cope with  the endemic â??politicsâ?? that are so rife. Instead, we 
have our own little unofficial club where Standard cars (from 1920 onwards) 
Triumph cars (post 1945) and Ferguson tractors (post 1946) all mix together and 
everyone is happy. I understand much the same applies in the U.K. to former 
employees with big Healeys, Spridgets, Jaguars and MGs. We all muck in together 
but too many people are leaving us each year for another life beyond the stars 
where oil leaks are unknown and Lucas is far better and more reliable than 
anything which ever came out of Bosch or Magneti Marelli.

Have I clarified?

Jonmac

> On 11 Jul 2023, at 17:52, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> John -
> 
> From across the pond - "mickey taking"?
> 
> Translation please?
> 
> Dave Northrup
> Dallas, TX
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Macartney
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 3:53 AM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Spinal Tappets
> 
> I feel especially honoured by that fantastic group. In 2009,  when doing the 
> Triumph Trans AmeriCan charity drive, ISOA put on an incredible event when I 
> visited Joe PAWLAK and his team of busted knuckles who had previously rebuilt 
> the Stag I was driving. The group was very much in evidence and sang an 
> adapted song from its repertoire called â??Johnnys got a brand new Stagâ??. 
> Brought a CD home and played it to a bunch of TR Register arrogant, PITA 
> stuffshirts here in the U.K. who claimed the material was sacrilegious to 
> Triumph etc etc. I applaud the Spinal Tappets, as did many other *older* 
> members of other U.K. clubs have heard and enjoyed that same CD. Too many 
> younger ones just donâ??t get it / see the songs as mickey taking and 
> especially so if they own a car of the same model. Vive les Spinal Tappets 
> even though I believe theyâ??ve disbanded. Sad, they were great.
> 
> Jonmac
> 
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