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Hi:
I have yo sell my TR8 that I've owned here in Calgary. Alberta. since 2006. Any
idea what TR8 fetch price wise? Its in excellent condition, shape drive and
mileage.
Cheers
Mike Coe
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Today's Topics:
1. Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss (John Macartney)
2. Re: Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss (Alex & Janet Thomson)
3. Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
(jpaynepbr@cox.net)
4. Re: Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
(Frank Fisher)
5. Re: Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
(Jonas Payne)
6. Re: Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA (Matt)
7. Re: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket (Robert M Lang)
8. Re: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket (Philip Gott)
9. Fwd: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023 (Mark Bradakis)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:49:03 +0100
From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss
In 2009, I was somewhere in Iowa. Large town, might have been Des Moines but my
TomTom gps thing lost all satellite signals - probably because of very high
buildings in the immediate vicinity?
Anyway, when the signal returned, I was given the instruction to take the very
next right turn, which I did. The turn itself was through a gap in a wall and
then on to a very neat and narrow blacktopped road, surrounded by immaculate
lawns and two cars in front of me who were both halted. The cars then went
elsewhere, one by one, and the blue Stag and I were brought to a halt by a sign
saying STOP HERE alongside a box on post.
Then the box spoke to me.
I couldn?t understand what the woman on the other end was saying, and she
couldn?t understand me, so everything started off swimmingly. The voice in the
box insisted on knowing who I had come to see and simply couldn?t get her head
round the fact I knew no one at this location and I was only there because of a
GPS malfunction. The whole process was like pulling teeth and the woman
continually asking who I had come to see. Perhaps both tempers were getting
frayed until I asked her why she kept asking who it was I had come to see?
Long silence.
?As you?re here sir, you must know what happens here??
?I don?t. Enlighten me?.
Another long silence.
When she replied, she seemed utterly amazed I had never heard of the Seven
Steps to Heaven drive thru funeral home (or whatever it called itself) ?now who
do you want to see??
It seemed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I paused very
briefly alongside a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept of drive thru
funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds and Starbucks and
that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk into them - providing
I?ve found a parking place.
Jonmac
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:39:18 -0400
From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net>
To: "'John Macartney'" <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>,
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss
Wow! What a fantastic story! Just another example of what technology has done
to us!
Alex Thomson
-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John
Macartney
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:49 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss
In 2009, I was somewhere in Iowa. Large town, might have been Des Moines but my
TomTom gps thing lost all satellite signals - probably because of very high
buildings in the immediate vicinity?
Anyway, when the signal returned, I was given the instruction to take the very
next right turn, which I did. The turn itself was through a gap in a wall and
then on to a very neat and narrow blacktopped road, surrounded by immaculate
lawns and two cars in front of me who were both halted. The cars then went
elsewhere, one by one, and the blue Stag and I were brought to a halt by a sign
saying STOP HERE alongside a box on post.
Then the box spoke to me.
I couldn?t understand what the woman on the other end was saying, and she
couldn?t understand me, so everything started off swimmingly. The voice in the
box insisted on knowing who I had come to see and simply couldn?t get her head
round the fact I knew no one at this location and I was only there because of a
GPS malfunction. The whole process was like pulling teeth and the woman
continually asking who I had come to see. Perhaps both tempers were getting
frayed until I asked her why she kept asking who it was I had come to see?
Long silence.
?As you?re here sir, you must know what happens here??
?I don?t. Enlighten me?.
Another long silence.
When she replied, she seemed utterly amazed I had never heard of the Seven
Steps to Heaven drive thru funeral home (or whatever it called itself) ?now who
do you want to see??
It seemed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I paused very
briefly alongside a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept of drive thru
funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds and Starbucks and
that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk into them - providing
I?ve found a parking place.
Jonmac
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 18:26:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: jpaynepbr@cox.net
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Cc: architect1@att.net
Subject: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park,
CA.
We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on
the car and report back.
Reasonable fee is offered for the service.
If able and interested, please contact me at
jpaynepbr@cox.net mailto:jpaynepbr@cox.net
702.882.6711
I will make introductions
Thank you
Jonas Payne
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 23:59:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>,
"jpaynepbr@cox.net" <jpaynepbr@cox.net>
Cc: "architect1@att.net" <architect1@att.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park
CA
Jonas?have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california facebook
page?
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, jpaynepbr@cox.net
<jpaynepbr@cox.net> wrote:
I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park,
CA.
We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on
the car and report back.
Reasonable fee is offered for the service.?
If able and interested, please contact me at
jpaynepbr@cox.net
702.882.6711
I will make introductions
Thank you
Jonas Payne
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000
From: Jonas Payne <jpayne@jpaynepbr.onmicrosoft.com>
To: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Cc: "architect1@att.net" <architect1@att.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park
CA
<BN8PR18MB28978C2A422EF1457B28836B8E2AA@BN8PR18MB2897.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
I contacted 3 of their board members via email.
Presumably they will notify their membership?
That?s how we handle those sorts of inquiries in the BACLV.
Jonas Payne
PBR Consulting Services
2260 Corporate Circle Suite 490
Henderson, NV 89074
702.882.6711
From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:59 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net; jpaynepbr@cox.net
Cc: architect1@att.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
Jonas
have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california facebook page?
I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park,
CA.
We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on
the car and report back.
Reasonable fee is offered for the service.
If able and interested, please contact me at
702.882.6711
I will make introductions
Thank you
Jonas Payne
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 15:08:48 GMT
From: "Matt" <mbarre@juno.com>
To: jpayne@jpaynepbr.onmicrosoft.com
Cc: yellowtr3@yahoo.com, triumphs@autox.team.net, architect1@att.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park
CA
With all this talk of selling cars and divesting spares it is good to see
someone still growing their fleet! Good luck with the acquisition Jonas.
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Jonas Payne <jpayne@jpaynepbr.onmicrosoft.com>
To: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Cc: "architect1@att.net" <architect1@att.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000
I contacted 3 of their board members via email.
Presumably they will notify their membership?
That’s how we handle those sorts of inquiries in the BACLV.
Jonas Payne
PBR Consulting Services
2260 Corporate Circle Suite 490
Henderson, NV 89074
702.882.6711
From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:59 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net; jpaynepbr@cox.net
Cc: architect1@att.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
Jonas
have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california facebook page?
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, jpaynepbr@cox.net
<jpaynepbr@cox.net> wrote:
I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park,
CA.
We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on
the car and report back.
Reasonable fee is offered for the service.
If able and interested, please contact me at
jpaynepbr@cox.net
702.882.6711
I will make introductions
Thank you
Jonas Payne
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 22:40:13 +0000
From: Robert M Lang <blang@mit.edu>
To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, New England Triumphs
<net@newenglandtriumphs.org>, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket
<LV2PR01MB7646E07408462D5EA02C87B3B624A@LV2PR01MB7646.prod.exchangelabs.com>
As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are
available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets
sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the
manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no choice
available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The
cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8
inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two holes were not the correct diameter.
That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and
one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...
Good luck!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Lang
Cell: 339-927-4489
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________________________________
From: NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org> on behalf of David Friedlander
via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM
To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; New England Triumphs
<net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket
Greetings everyone ~
Opinion time:
Subject: Oil pan gaskets.
Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99
while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3
that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?
Dave
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:14:59 -0400
From: Philip Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
To: Robert M Lang <blang@mit.edu>
Cc: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, New England Triumphs
<net@newenglandtriumphs.org>, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket
I buy the cheaper gaskets and use Ultra Black RTV. They do NOT leak that way
and the thick gasket allows for relatively easy removal (race EMG in a come
apart a lot).
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 28, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Robert M Lang via NET
> <net@newenglandtriumphs.org> wrote:
>
> ?
> As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are
> available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets
> sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the
> manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no choice
> available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The
> cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 /
> 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two holes were not the correct diameter.
>
> That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and
> one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...
>
> Good luck!
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Lang
> Cell: 339-927-4489
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org> on behalf of David Friedlander
> via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM
> To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; New England Triumphs
> <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
> Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket
>
> Greetings everyone ~
>
> Opinion time:
>
> Subject: Oil pan gaskets.
>
> Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99
> while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3
> that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?
>
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:16:05 -0600
From: Mark Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Fwd: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023
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Subject: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:53:44 -0400
From: yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: fot@autox.team.net
The go-fast Triumph fraternity lost an important member last Sunday, JK
Jackson had died.
I was lucky enough to meet JK very early in my racing exploits, and he
took pity on my attempts to field a TR4 that was in a pitiful state. His
guidance some twenty years ago was key to my climbing the curve from
neophyte to racer. He was always willing to offer advice, and if you
followed his advice to the letter the outcome was usually positive. If
it didn't turn out as expected, I know I screwed something up! It was JK
who explained to me how to build a big chassis Triumph gearbox that goes
the distance, his techniques worked back then and I still use his
formula on every gearbox I build.
As I stand in front of my parts washer working the dirty parts, I still
think is this clean, or is it JK clean...
RIP, my friend.
Henry Frye
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r>Long silence.<br>?As you?re here sir, you must know what happens here??<b=
r>?I don?t. Enlighten me?.<br>Another long silence.<br>When she replied, sh=
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e thru funeral home (or whatever it called itself) ?now who do you want to =
see??<br>It seemed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I pause=
d very briefly alongside a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept =
of drive thru funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds a=
nd Starbucks and that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk int=
o them - providing I?ve found a parking place.<br><br>Jonmac<br><br><br>---=
---------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:=
39:18 -0400<br>From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net=
><br>To: "'John Macartney'" <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>,<br> &nb=
sp; <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>S=
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w! What a fantastic story! Just another example of what technology has done=
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mphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Macartney<b=
r>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:49 PM<br>To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>S=
ubject: [TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss<br><br>In 2009, I was so=
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a box on post. <br>Then the box spoke to me. <br>I couldn?t understand wha=
t the woman on the other end was saying, and she couldn?t understand me, so=
everything started off swimmingly. The voice in the box insisted on knowin=
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new no one at this location and I was only there because of a GPS malfuncti=
on. The whole process was like pulling teeth and the woman continually aski=
ng who I had come to see. Perhaps both tempers were getting frayed until I =
asked her why she kept asking who it was I had come to see?<br>Long silence=
.<br>?As you?re here sir, you must know what happens here??<br>?I don?t. En=
lighten me?.<br>Another long silence.<br>When she replied, she seemed utter=
ly amazed I had never heard of the Seven Steps to Heaven drive thru funeral=
home (or whatever it called itself) ?now who do you want to see??<br>It se=
emed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I paused very briefly=
alongside a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept of drive thru =
funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds and Starbucks a=
nd that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk into them - provi=
ding I?ve found a parking place.<br><br>Jonmac<br>** triumphs@autox.team.ne=
t **<br><br>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br>Archive: http://www.=
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arter.net<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<b=
r>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 18:26:36 -0400 (EDT)<br>From: jpaynepbr@cox.net<br=
>To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>Cc: architect1@att.net<br>Subject: [TR] Pre=
-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA<br>Message-ID: <135=
3621749.792850.1688077596595@myemail.cox.net><br>Content-Type: text/plai=
n; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag=
that is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br><br>We could use somebody generally=
local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back.<br><=
br>Reasonable fee is offered for the service. <br><br>If able and intereste=
d, please contact me at<br><br>jpaynepbr@cox.net mailto:jpaynepbr@cox.net<b=
r><br>702.882.6711<br><br>I will make introductions<br><br>Thank you<br><br=
>Jonas Payne<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachme=
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-------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 23:59:00 +0000 (U=
TC)<br>From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com><br>To: "triumphs@auto=
x.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>,<br> &nb=
sp; "jpaynepbr@cox.net" <jpaynepbr@cox.net><br>Cc: "=
architect1@att.net" <architect1@att.net><br>Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Pur=
chase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park<br> &n=
bsp; CA<br>Message-ID: <1924355504.342812.1688083140068=
@mail.yahoo.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>&=
nbsp;Jonas?have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california=
facebook page?<br><br><br> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at=
04:35:07 PM PDT, jpaynepbr@cox.net <jpaynepbr@cox.net> wrote: =
<br> <br> <br>I have a friend interested in purchasing a S=
tag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br><br> <br>We could use someb=
ody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and repo=
rt back. <br><br> <br>Reasonable fee is offered for the service.? <br>=
<br> <br>If able and interested, please contact me at <br><br> <b=
r>jpaynepbr@cox.net<br><br> <br>702.882.6711<br><br> <br>I will m=
ake introductions <br><br> <br>Thank you<br><br> <br>Jonas Payne<=
br><br> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br><br>Donate: http://www.team.n=
et/donate.html<br>Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://w=
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r>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000<br>From: Jonas Payne <jpayne@jpa=
ynepbr.onmicrosoft.com><br>To: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>,=
"triumphs@autox.team.net"<br> &nb=
sp;<triumphs@autox.team.net><br>Cc: "architect1@att.net" <architec=
t1@att.net><br>Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag =
- Canoga Park<br> CA<br>Mess=
age-ID:<br> <BN8PR18MB289=
78C2A422EF1457B28836B8E2AA@BN8PR18MB2897.namprd18.prod.outlook.com><br>&=
nbsp; <br>Content-Type: text/plain=
; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>I contacted 3 of their board members via email.<=
br><br>Presumably they will notify their membership?<br><br>That?s how we h=
andle those sorts of inquiries in the BACLV.<br><br>Jonas Payne<br>PBR Cons=
ulting Services<br>2260 Corporate Circle Suite 490<br>Henderson, NV 89074<b=
r>702.882.6711<br><br>From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com><br>Sen=
t: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:59 PM<br>To: triumphs@autox.team.net; jpaynepb=
r@cox.net<br>Cc: architect1@att.net<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspe=
ction - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA<br><br>Jonas<br>have you tried postin=
g on the triumph club of sothern california facebook page?<br><br><br><br>O=
n Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, jpaynepbr@cox.net<mailto:j=
paynepbr@cox.net> <jpaynepbr@cox.net<mailto:jpaynepbr@cox.net>&=
gt; wrote:<br><br><br><br>I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag t=
hat is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br><br>We could use somebody generally l=
ocal and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back.<br><br=
>Reasonable fee is offered for the service.<br><br>If able and interested, =
please contact me at<br><br>jpaynepbr@cox.net<mailto:jpaynepbr@cox.net&g=
t;<br><br>702.882.6711<br><br>I will make introductions<br><br>Thank you<br=
><br>Jonas Payne<br>** triumphs@autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs@autox.tea=
m.net> **<br><br>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br>Archive: htt=
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From: "Matt" <mbarre@juno.com><br>To: jpayne@jpaynepbr.onmicrosoft.co=
m<br>Cc: yellowtr3@yahoo.com, &nbs=
p; triumphs@autox.team.net, =
architect1@att.net<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph =
Stag - Canoga Park<br> CA<br=
>Message-ID: <20230630.110848.7651.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com><br>Conte=
nt-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252"<br><br>With all this talk of =
selling cars and divesting spares it is good to see someone still growing t=
heir fleet! Good luck with the acquisition Jonas. <br><br>-----=
----- Original Message ----------<br>From: Jonas Payne <jpayne@jpaynepbr=
.onmicrosoft.com><br>To: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>, "triu=
mphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>Cc: "architect1@att=
.net" <architect1@att.net><br>Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspecti=
on - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA<br>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000=
<br><br><br>I contacted 3 of their board members via email. <br> <br>P=
resumably they will notify their membership? <br> <br>That&rsquo;s=
how we handle those sorts of inquiries in the BACLV. <br> <br>Jonas P=
ayne<br>PBR Consulting Services<br>2260 Corporate Circle Suite 490<br>Hende=
rson, NV 89074<br>702.882.6711<br> <br>From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr=
3@yahoo.com> <br> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:59 PM<br> To=
: triumphs@autox.team.net; jpaynepbr@cox.net<br> Cc: architect1@att.ne=
t<br> Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canog=
a Park CA<br> <br>Jonas <br>have you tried posting on the triumph club=
of sothern california facebook page?<br> <br> <br> <br>On T=
hursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, jpaynepbr@cox.net <jpaynepbr@=
cox.net> wrote: <br> <br> <br>I have a friend interested in pu=
rchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br>We could use somebod=
y generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report=
back. <br>Reasonable fee is offered for the service. <br>If able and=
interested, please contact me at <br>jpaynepbr@cox.net<br>702.882.6711<br>=
I will make introductions <br>Thank you<br>Jonas Payne<br>** triumphs@autox=
.team.net **<br> <br> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br>=
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team=
.net/archive<br> <br> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team=
.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com<br>-------------- next pa=
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e: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 22:40:13 +0000<br>From: Robert M Lang <blang@mit.edu=
><br>To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, New England Trium=
phs<br> <net@newenglandtr=
iumphs.org>, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re=
: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket<br>Message-ID:<br> &nbs=
p; <LV2PR01MB7646E07408462D5EA02C87B3=
B624A@LV2PR01MB7646.prod.exchangelabs.com><br> &n=
bsp; <br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br=
><br>As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they ar=
e available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gas=
kets sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time wit=
h the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no =
choice available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the=
car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes wer=
e off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two holes were not the=
correct diameter.<br><br>That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap o=
ne AND the expensive one and one winds up either as a spare or in the bin..=
.<br><br>Good luck!<br><br>------------------------------------------------=
---------------------------<br>Bob Lang<br>  =
; Cell: 339-9=
27-4489<br>----------------------------------------------------------------=
-----------<br><br>________________________________<br>From: NET <net-bo=
unces@newenglandtriumphs.org> on behalf of David Friedlander via NET <=
;net@newenglandtriumphs.org><br>Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM<b=
r>To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; New England Triumphs &l=
t;net@newenglandtriumphs.org><br>Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil P=
an Gasket<br><br>Greetings everyone ~<br><br>Opinion time:<br><br>Subject: =
Oil pan gaskets.<br><br>Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Paye=
n gasket is $26.99<br>while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is =
the Payen gasket TR3<br>that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?<br><br>=
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hilip Gott <vfracing@aol.com><br>To: Robert M Lang <blang@mit.edu&=
gt;<br>Cc: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, New England Triump=
hs<br> <net@newenglandtri=
umphs.org>, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re:=
[TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket<br>Message-ID: <B3CDA447-F=
613-4EDB-82C4-19849B9CCE0B@aol.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=
=3D"utf-8"<br><br>I buy the cheaper gaskets and use Ultra Black RTV. They d=
o NOT leak that way and the thick gasket allows for relatively easy removal=
(race EMG in a come apart a lot).<br>Phil<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><b=
r>> On Jun 28, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Robert M Lang via NET <net@newenglan=
dtriumphs.org> wrote:<br>> <br>> ?<br>> As a rule of thumb, I t=
ry to use the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak =
to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettlin=
g" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the manifold gaskets for T=
R6 and there have been times when there was no choice available - just avai=
lable. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate=
2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or=
minus. Ans one or two holes were not the correct diameter.<br>> <=
br>> That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensi=
ve one and one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...<br>> <br>>=
Good luck!<br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------=
-----------------------------<br>> Bob Lang =
<br>> &nb=
sp; Cell: 339-927-4489<br>> ---------=
------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> =
<br>> From: NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org> on behalf of =
David Friedlander via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org><br>> Sent: =
Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM<br>> To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@auto=
x.team.net>; New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org><br>=
> Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket<br>> <br>>=
; Greetings everyone ~<br>> <br>> Opinion time:<br>> <br>> Subj=
ect: Oil pan gaskets.<br>> <br>> Without disparaging Moss, I note the=
ir 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99 <br>> while their stock gasket (695-00=
0) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3<br>> that much better?? Worth =
the $$ difference?<br>> <br>> Dave<br>> __________________________=
_____________________<br>> NET mailing list<br>> NET@newenglandtriump=
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r>From: Mark Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com><br>To: triumphs@autox.team.=
net<br>Subject: [TR] Fwd: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023<br>Message-ID: <1=
4dfdfe7-2d12-f5d5-5fc9-f66715255fb5@bradakis.com><br>Content-Type: text/=
plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed<br><br><br><br><br>-------- Forward=
ed Message --------<br>Subject: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023<br>Date=
: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:53:44 -0400<br>From: yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.t=
eam.net><br>Reply-To: yellow04 <yellow04@tr4racer.com><br>To: fot@=
autox.team.net<br><br>The go-fast Triumph fraternity lost an important memb=
er last Sunday, JK <br>Jackson had died.<br><br>I was lucky enough to meet =
JK very early in my racing exploits, and he <br>took pity on my attempts to=
field a TR4 that was in a pitiful state. His <br>guidance some twenty year=
s ago was key to my climbing the curve from <br>neophyte to racer. He was a=
lways willing to offer advice, and if you <br>followed his advice to the le=
tter the outcome was usually positive. If <br>it didn't turn out as expecte=
d, I know I screwed something up! It was JK <br>who explained to me how to =
build a big chassis Triumph gearbox that goes <br>the distance, his techniq=
ues worked back then and I still use his <br>formula on every gearbox I bui=
ld.<br><br>As I stand in front of my parts washer working the dirty parts, =
I still <br>think is this clean, or is it JK clean...<br><br>RIP, my friend=
.<br><br>Henry Frye<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Su=
bject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________=
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